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LightWarrior
Mar 16th, 2009, 11:40 PM
I'm still not very familiar with the new rankings. All I know is that roughly points are doubled form last year. I'm thinking most players will improve their rankings. WS will stay put. Am I right?

Jem
Mar 17th, 2009, 12:10 AM
They get a 0 pointer, and it counts as one of their 16 best tournaments. Same with Sharapova, Strebotnik, Petrova and anyone else who qualified for direct entry into the tournament but did not play.

Dawson.
Mar 17th, 2009, 12:11 AM
They will get a zero which will be included in their best 16 results as this event is mandatory. But seeing as though they rarely play over 15 events, it won't really effect them.

Tennisstar86
Mar 17th, 2009, 02:49 AM
no, noone will gain points unless they do better than they did last year... aka Dementieva/ Jankovic ended up losing ground.....

All the points from last year were already doubled since they didnt play last year its really not affecting them.

bobbynorwich
Mar 17th, 2009, 03:45 AM
Technically, Williams sisters don't lose ranking points, but any Indian Wells semi/final player gets mega-points that can pull ahead of them.

Think of it like this: Safina wins IW she gets +1000 points, non-playing Serena gets 0. If Serena had played IW and won, she gets +1000 and Safina as runner-up only +750. Just that much harder for Safina to catch her if Serena had played this premier 1000 tournie.

Shuji Shuriken
Mar 17th, 2009, 04:07 AM
If Serena had played, my ass. Get over it already :rolleyes:.

duhcity
Mar 17th, 2009, 04:08 AM
If Serena had 16 tournaments, the 0 would replace the tournament that she gained the least points in.
She doesnt play 16, neither does Venus or Sharapova. Thus, unaffected

Matt01
Mar 17th, 2009, 01:17 PM
Since IW is one of the 4 mandatory tournaments and all the other players are playing here, of course it affects the WS :rolleyes: More than in previous years.

2Black
Mar 17th, 2009, 01:31 PM
no one cares

Vlover
Mar 17th, 2009, 01:37 PM
Since IW is one of the 4 mandatory tournaments and all the other players are playing here, of course it affects the WS :rolleyes: More than in previous years.
Not as much as you wish and think.:lol: The are presently in the top 5 with several 0s therefore if they do well in the other remaining tournaments it will be no "biggie". Short term Safina and Vera Z benefit the most but that still won't have much effect if the Sisters continue to play well for the rest of the year.:p

bobbynorwich
Mar 17th, 2009, 01:52 PM
Short term Safina and Vera Z benefit the most but that still won't have much effect if the Sisters continue to play well for the rest of the year.:p

Problem is that's a big 'if,' due to their lack of consistency. Less margin of error in future tournies, but that's their choice. :shrug:

frenchie
Mar 17th, 2009, 01:54 PM
Since IW is one of the 4 mandatory tournaments and all the other players are playing here, of course it affects the WS :rolleyes: More than in previous years.

No it doesn't:rolleyes:

They never played before so they don't lose points
And they don't play 16 tournaments a year so the 0 pointer replace another 0 in their 16 best results:wavey:

WS rules the WTA:worship:

Infiniti2001
Mar 17th, 2009, 02:01 PM
Since IW is one of the 4 mandatory tournaments and all the other players are playing here, of course it affects the WS :rolleyes: More than in previous years.


Sure Einstein :haha::help:

Infiniti2001
Mar 17th, 2009, 02:02 PM
No it doesn't:rolleyes:

They never played before so they don't lose points
And they don't play 16 tournaments a year so the 0 pointer replace another 0 in their 16 best results:wavey:

WS rules the WTA:worship:

The poster enjoys taking from his butt :tape::lol:

Matt01
Mar 17th, 2009, 02:09 PM
Not as much as you wish and think.:lol:


How do you know how much I "think and wish" that it affects them? :weirdo:


No it doesn't:rolleyes:

They never played before so they don't lose points
And they don't play 16 tournaments a year so the 0 pointer replace another 0 in their 16 best results:wavey:

WS rules the WTA:worship:


You have absolutely no clue how the rankings work, right?
It doesn't matter if the WS play 16 events or more or less this year. And the crap that they don't have anything to defend from last year is totally irrelevant as well. Fact is that IW is mandatory now (it wasn't before) and worth more points than last year. Go and check and read the rulebook and then we can talk again, ignorant WS-fanboy :wavey:

Olórin
Mar 17th, 2009, 02:33 PM
Problem is that's a big 'if,' due to their lack of consistency. Less margin of error in future tournies, but that's their choice. :shrug:

Nonsense. They have been more consistent than anyone else of late. There is no doubt whatsoever that if healthy the WS will continue to showcase the best overall tennis on tour for the rest of this season.

The margin of error has always been there due to the fact that they only play 12 or so tournaments. The new ranking system and getting a mandatory 0 for Indian Wells literally makes no difference to them whatsoever.

All their ranking rivals except Safina have done really badly. The Indian Wells points will go in their mandatory results. Other than Safina, Indian Wells being mandatory has probably actually benefitted them.

BuTtErFrEnA
Mar 17th, 2009, 02:51 PM
it's 0 as usual :shrug:

Shuji Shuriken
Mar 17th, 2009, 02:59 PM
Since IW is one of the 4 mandatory tournaments and all the other players are playing here, of course it affects the WS :rolleyes: More than in previous years.
Oh look who's posting in YET another thread about the Williams Sisters :hearts:. Venus's number one fan :sobbing:. I'm very afraid for Venus if she's ever in Germany (if you're really German :scared: ). Wouldn't want you pulling a Gunther Parche :scared:.

Christinawww
Mar 17th, 2009, 03:21 PM
You have absolutely no clue how the rankings work, right?
It doesn't matter if the WS play 16 events or more or less this year. And the crap that they don't have anything to defend from last year is totally irrelevant as well. Fact is that IW is mandatory now (it wasn't before) and worth more points than last year. Go and check and read the rulebook and then we can talk again, ignorant WS-fanboy :wavey:

I think you need to read the question again: "Are the WS going to lose ranking points for skipping IW this year ?"

the answer is no, because of two things:
1. they did not play Indian Wells last year
2. they've played less than 16 events in the past 52 weeks so the 0-pointer they get from this year's mandatory Indian Wells will replace nothing.

IF they were to play more event it will have a consequence, but as of this date, it doesn't

so them not playing last year and playing less than 16 events in the past 52 weeks are very relevant to the question :rolleyes:

Dawn Marie
Mar 17th, 2009, 03:24 PM
WS not playing here doesn't hurt them. It only gives another player besides them a chance to win a title at IW.

Everyone is waiting for Miami. Better tennis, better tourney, much better coverage and respect for the WTA tour. IW is like a scrub while Miami is like a good man with money.

youizahoe
Mar 17th, 2009, 03:32 PM
I think you need to read the question again: "Are the WS going to lose ranking points for skipping IW this year ?"

the answer is no, because of two things:
1. they did not play Indian Wells last year
2. they've played less than 16 events in the past 52 weeks so the 0-pointer they get from this year's mandatory Indian Wells will replace nothing.

IF they were to play more event it will have a consequence, but as of this date, it doesn't

so them not playing last year and playing less than 16 events in the past 52 weeks are very relevant to the question :rolleyes:

They can lose ranking points, regardless of the fact that they didn't play the year before. They will just take off any amount of points of the total points you have. It's written in the WTA rule book :)

TheBoiledEgg
Mar 17th, 2009, 03:33 PM
Serena has 15 tourns on her rank (Indian Wells counts as 0) that make it 16 tourns.

Venus only has 13 at present but will have 14 when new ranks come out.

zxcVbnm88
Mar 17th, 2009, 03:59 PM
They can lose ranking points, regardless of the fact that they didn't play the year before. They will just take off any amount of points of the total points you have. It's written in the WTA rule book :)

If you played IW in 2008 and you skip IW in 2009, they will take away the points you earned in IW 2008 and you cannot replace it with your 16th best result but 0.

Williams sisters DNP IW in 2008. 0 point will be taken off. Check the "Next Off"
http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/3/global/includes/TrackIt.asp?file=http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/2/global/Pdfs/rankings/2009/singles_Numeric.pdf

From another perspective, they'll earn ranking points if they play IW but we all know they won't play. Literally, they won't "lose" ranking points because they don't need to defend anything at IW.

youizahoe
Mar 17th, 2009, 04:01 PM
If you play IW in 2008 and you skip IW in 2009, they will take away the points you've earned in IW 2008 and you cannot replace it with your 16th best results but 0.

Williams sisters DNP IW in 2008. 0 point will be taken off. Check the "Next Off"
http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/3/global/includes/TrackIt.asp?file=http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/2/global/Pdfs/rankings/2009/singles_Numeric.pdf

Okay cause during the press statement of the new rules, they stated, they will take 300 to 400 pts off, and if you get that sanction frequently you will be suspended to play... Perhaps they adjusted it. My apology :)

zxcVbnm88
Mar 17th, 2009, 04:09 PM
Okay cause during the press statement of the new rules, they stated, they will take 300 to 400 pts off, and if you get that sanction frequently you will be suspended to play... Perhaps they adjusted it. My apology :)

You don't have to apologise:) Cheers:lol:

frenchie
Mar 17th, 2009, 04:20 PM
How do you know how much I "think and wish" that it affects them? :weirdo:





You have absolutely no clue how the rankings work, right?
It doesn't matter if the WS play 16 events or more or less this year. And the crap that they don't have anything to defend from last year is totally irrelevant as well. Fact is that IW is mandatory now (it wasn't before) and worth more points than last year. Go and check and read the rulebook and then we can talk again, ignorant WS-fanboy :wavey:

LOL

You know nothing about rankings:rolleyes:
My explanation was right. Venus only has 13 events in her rankings so she already has 3 zero pointer in her amount of points

IW will only replace one of those 3

And IW was worth 920 points last year and 1000 this year for the winner
What a big difference:tape:

Infiniti2001
Mar 17th, 2009, 04:22 PM
LOL

You know nothing about rankings:rolleyes:
My explanation was right. Venus only has 13 events in her rankings so she already has 3 zero pointer in her amount of points

IW will only replace one of those 3

And IW was worth 920 points last year and 1000 this year for the winner
What a big difference:tape:

mattzero00000000s owned again :lol: :drool::lick:

youizahoe
Mar 17th, 2009, 04:34 PM
LOL

You know nothing about rankings:rolleyes:
My explanation was right. Venus only has 13 events in her rankings so she already has 3 zero pointer in her amount of points

IW will only replace one of those 3

And IW was worth 920 points last year and 1000 this year for the winner
What a big difference:tape:

Actually 465 pts, the in between points were 920.

Direwolf
Mar 17th, 2009, 05:52 PM
No they wont lose anything...
but
WILL get something

they
will get

"0" haha

Direwolf
Mar 17th, 2009, 05:58 PM
LOL

You know nothing about rankings:rolleyes:
My explanation was right. Venus only has 13 events in her rankings so she already has 3 zero pointer in her amount of points

IW will only replace one of those 3

And IW was worth 920 points last year and 1000 this year for the winner
What a big difference:tape:

stop making him look bad...
he already is as he is!!

QUEENLINDSAY
Mar 17th, 2009, 06:42 PM
not getting any ranking points is useless!

ban them to the next tourney like Miami should have been implemented and let's see how would they sticked to their guns ( which I think the williams will stick to their gun but at least it will hurt them ).

but money is more important than dignity to mr. larry scott. With Sharapova injured and Justine retired, WTA is Williams Tennis Association wether u like it or not.

youizahoe
Mar 17th, 2009, 06:46 PM
not getting any ranking points is useless!

ban them to the next tourney like Miami should have been implemented and let's see how would they sticked to their guns ( which I think the williams will stick to their gun but at least it will hurt them ).

but money is more important than dignity to mr. larry scott. With Sharapova injured and Justine retired, WTA is Williams Tennis Association wether u like it or not.

Even so, they would never ban serena and venus from Miami or any USA tournament, cause that would blow up badly in Scott's face.

Shuji Shuriken
Mar 17th, 2009, 07:08 PM
not getting any ranking points is useless!

ban them to the next tourney like Miami should have been implemented and let's see how would they sticked to their guns ( which I think the williams will stick to their gun but at least it will hurt them ).

but money is more important than dignity to mr. larry scott. With Sharapova injured and Justine retired, WTA is Williams Tennis Association wether u like it or not.
Wouldn't that put a smile on your pathetic face :lol:. So what if they don't want to play? What would banning them do, besides create a bigger furore :rolleyes:? Oh yeah...you'd get some sort of fucked up satisfaction from that wouldn't you :lol:?

Matt01
Mar 17th, 2009, 08:29 PM
Oh look who's posting in YET another thread about the Williams Sisters :hearts:. Venus's number one fan :sobbing:. I'm very afraid for Venus if she's ever in Germany (if you're really German :scared: ). Wouldn't want you pulling a Gunther Parche :scared:.


:rolleyes: I have already seen Venus play in Germany and last time I checked she was still pretty sane despite that :p

BTW, next time you'll be reported for your comment.


I think you need to read the question again: "Are the WS going to lose ranking points for skipping IW this year ?"

the answer is no, because of two things:
1. they did not play Indian Wells last year
2. they've played less than 16 events in the past 52 weeks so the 0-pointer they get from this year's mandatory Indian Wells will replace nothing.

IF they were to play more event it will have a consequence, but as of this date, it doesn't

so them not playing last year and playing less than 16 events in the past 52 weeks are very relevant to the question :rolleyes:


I don't need to re-read the question again. I was replying to a poster who claimed that the WS are not afected at all by IW and that is wrong. I understand that the WS didn't play IW last year and in that sense, they obviously can't "lose" any points, but fact is that after the rule changes IW became more important than before because

1. the points were increased and
2. the tourney became mandatory

so in that sense I stand by my opinion that the WS are affected by that when everyone else play but only the WS don't.

Andrew..
Mar 17th, 2009, 09:37 PM
Everyone is waiting for Miami. Better tennis, better tourney, much better coverage and respect for the WTA tour. IW is like a scrub while Miami is like a good man with money.
At this point, Miami and Indian Wells are equal in their relevance on tour. It's not the tournament's fault that some players didn't show up this week, either physically or mentally. Respect for the WTA Tour? I don't know how you can say one tournament has more respect for a tour over another. The only tournament that seems to not have respect for the tour/disregard tour rules is Dubai. And IW isn't a scrub compared to Miami in any way - in fact, they have better attendance and a superior facility.

mdterp01
Mar 17th, 2009, 10:09 PM
no one cares

Exactly...the Williams sisters certainly don't care. People seem to think that the rankings actually mean something for Venus and Serena. As Australian Open '07 proved, Serena can be ranked #1 or #81. Many people care way more than they do and its like jesus...get the hell over it people.

Tennisstar86
Mar 17th, 2009, 10:55 PM
not getting any ranking points is useless!

ban them to the next tourney like Miami should have been implemented and let's see how would they sticked to their guns ( which I think the williams will stick to their gun but at least it will hurt them ).

but money is more important than dignity to mr. larry scott. With Sharapova injured and Justine retired, WTA is Williams Tennis Association wether u like it or not.

making them miss Miami wouldnt hurt them.....just the tour..... think before you speak.... anyways...

The Miami organizers would never allow it....

Shuji Shuriken
Mar 17th, 2009, 11:05 PM
:rolleyes: I have already seen Venus play in Germany and last time I checked she was still pretty sane despite that :p

BTW, next time you'll be reported for your comment.





I don't need to re-read the question again. I was replying to a poster who claimed that the WS are not afected at all by IW and that is wrong. I understand that the WS didn't play IW last year and in that sense, they obviously can't "lose" any points, but fact is that after the rule changes IW became more important than before because

1. the points were increased and
2. the tourney became mandatory

so in that sense I stand by my opinion that the WS are affected by that when everyone else play but only the WS don't.
Please :rolleyes:. Reported for what? because I think Venus should be kept as far as possible from you as is physically possible? That's only because I think you're a crazy stalker/psycho and I fear for her safety. If that warrants a ban, then fuck it...go ahead :lol:.

HippityHop
Mar 17th, 2009, 11:28 PM
Problem is that's a big 'if,' due to their lack of consistency. Less margin of error in future tournies, but that's their choice. :shrug:

Of course we all know how important ranking points are to the sisters. Especially when it comes to winning slams. They can't win unless they are ranked one or two. :devil:

DA FOREHAND
Mar 17th, 2009, 11:48 PM
not getting any ranking points is useless!

ban them to the next tourney like Miami should have been implemented and let's see how would they sticked to their guns ( which I think the williams will stick to their gun but at least it will hurt them ).

but money is more important than dignity to mr. larry scott. With Sharapova injured and Justine retired, WTA is Williams Tennis Association wether u like it or not.

what's new?:wavey::lol:

spencercarlos
Mar 18th, 2009, 02:59 AM
Please :rolleyes:. Reported for what? because I think Venus should be kept as far as possible from you as is physically possible? That's only because I think you're a crazy stalker/psycho and I fear for her safety. If that warrants a ban, then fuck it...go ahead :lol:.
Oh you are so ridiculous :rolleyes:

spencercarlos
Mar 18th, 2009, 03:33 AM
:rolleyes: I have already seen Venus play in Germany and last time I checked she was still pretty sane despite that :p

BTW, next time you'll be reported for your comment.





I don't need to re-read the question again. I was replying to a poster who claimed that the WS are not afected at all by IW and that is wrong. I understand that the WS didn't play IW last year and in that sense, they obviously can't "lose" any points, but fact is that after the rule changes IW became more important than before because

1. the points were increased and
2. the tourney became mandatory

so in that sense I stand by my opinion that the WS are affected by that when everyone else play but only the WS don't.
You are right, they lose in the sense that they have 1 tournament counting for her ranking which is valued as 0 pts. They can go on and play 20 tournaments this year and still that 0 will count for their ranking. Are the WS Fans too blind to understand that? Or is negation the way to make their "truth" reality :lol: :rolleyes:

zxcVbnm88
Mar 18th, 2009, 04:28 AM
Nonsense. They have been more consistent than anyone else of late. There is no doubt whatsoever that if healthy the WS will continue to showcase the best overall tennis on tour for the rest of this season.

The margin of error has always been there due to the fact that they only play 12 or so tournaments. The new ranking system and getting a mandatory 0 for Indian Wells literally makes no difference to them whatsoever.

All their ranking rivals except Safina have done really badly. The Indian Wells points will go in their mandatory results. Other than Safina, Indian Wells being mandatory has probably actually benefitted them.

You are right, they lose in the sense that they have 1 tournament counting for her ranking which is valued as 0 pts. They can go on and play 20 tournaments this year and still that 0 will count for their ranking. Are the WS Fans too blind to understand that? Or is negation the way to make their "truth" reality :lol: :rolleyes:

Players like Safina,ED and JJ are the ones who might play 20 tournaments a year, NOT the williams sisters.

spencercarlos
Mar 18th, 2009, 04:45 AM
Players like Safina,ED and JJ are the ones who might play 20 tournaments a year, NOT the williams sisters.
You can go with your mates and play your ridiculous game. When a Williams is at the top of the rankings, yeah the rankings matter, but when another player is there, oh that´s the cheap spot for the tournament whores :rolleyes:

:wavey:

QUEENLINDSAY
Mar 18th, 2009, 04:48 AM
making them miss Miami wouldnt hurt them.....just the tour..... think before you speak.... anyways...

The Miami organizers would never allow it....

not getting ranking points on two tier 1 tournament will defenitely hurt their seedings on slam.

zxcVbnm88
Mar 18th, 2009, 04:59 AM
You can go with your mates and play your ridiculous game. When a Williams is at the top of the rankings, yeah the rankings matter, but when another player is there, oh that´s the cheap spot for the tournament whores :rolleyes:

:wavey:
Trying to change topics when you have nothing to rebutt?

not getting ranking points on two tier 1 tournament will defenitely hurt their seedings on slam.

Yes, this matters to me to a certain extent depending on the draw.

choi15
Mar 18th, 2009, 05:18 AM
You are right, they lose in the sense that they have 1 tournament counting for her ranking which is valued as 0 pts. They can go on and play 20 tournaments this year and still that 0 will count for their ranking. Are the WS Fans too blind to understand that? Or is negation the way to make their "truth" reality :lol: :rolleyes:

YAY, I THOUGHT THE SAME THING TOO, AND I'M A SERENA FAN :cool:...(don't generalise)...in that sense, both ARE affected, and will have that gap wen the ranking points are added up by the end of the yr since it counts for the 16 (but they gotta stick to their guns)...it'll be interesting to still see Serena at #1 by the end of the though, regardless :angel:

Bitter Blue Bong
Mar 18th, 2009, 05:23 AM
The larger point here is that not playing Indian Wells doesn't penalize the Williams sisters in any meaningful way, at least from their perspective. They've made it perfectly clear over the last...oh, I don't know...8 or 9 years that they will play when and where they want to play and the rankings will fall where they may. They don't depend on seeding to win tournaments (ESPECIALLY SLAMS), so a big zero counting toward their best tournaments and ranking essentially means zero to them. People here are probably more concerned about it than they are. :lol:

Infiniti2001
Mar 18th, 2009, 05:38 AM
The larger point here is that not playing Indian Wells doesn't penalize the Williams sisters in any meaningful way, at least from their perspective. They've made it perfectly clear over the last...oh, I don't know...8 or 9 years that they will play when and where they want to play and the rankings will fall where they may. They don't depend on seeding to win tournaments (ESPECIALLY SLAMS), so a big zero counting toward their best tournaments and ranking essentially means zero to them. People here are probably more concerned about it than they are. :lol:

:yeah:

Matt01
Mar 18th, 2009, 01:23 PM
You are right


Nice to see that there are still a few people left here who have a brain.

Shuji Shuriken
Mar 18th, 2009, 01:40 PM
Nice to see that there are still a few people left here who have a brain.
Yeah...and they both happen to be brain-dead :lol:.

HRHoliviasmith
Mar 18th, 2009, 01:49 PM
Yeah...and they both happen to be brain-dead :lol:.

wow :lol:

Vlover
Mar 18th, 2009, 01:54 PM
You are right, they lose in the sense that they have 1 tournament counting for her ranking which is valued as 0 pts.
Stating the obvious is not the point being debated but the effect of the 0. The Sisters and their fans just don't see it having the impact as you and your sidekicks would love it to be.:lol: The Sisters are presently counting several 0's in their rankings and are still capable of making top 5 by winning titles. They are not defined by how many tournies they play but what they win.

Yes Safina could take the #1 spot but who in their right mind is going to think Safina is better than Serena especially after the AO.:rolleyes: Explain to me why the majority of people are wrong to think that way.

Christinawww
Mar 18th, 2009, 01:58 PM
the question asked was "Are the WS going to lose ranking points for skipping IW this year"
and thereto the answer is NO.

Yes if they played 16+ tournaments a year, not playing Indian Wells will affect their total number of ranking points, however, at this point neither of them have played that much for the past 52 years, and on top of my head, I can't remember the last time any of them had.

Matt01
Mar 18th, 2009, 02:08 PM
Yes if they played 16+ tournaments a year, not playing Indian Wells will affect their total number of ranking points, however, at this point neither of them have played that much for the past 52 years, and on top of my head, I can't remember the last time any of them had.


1. You don't know how many tourneys the WS will play this year. :rolleyes:
2. Venus played 16 tourneys in 2004 :wavey:

frenchie
Mar 18th, 2009, 02:11 PM
1. You don't know how many tourneys the WS will play this year. :rolleyes:
2. Venus played 16 tourneys in 2004 :wavey:

1)She won't play 16 tournaments

2) Even if she plays 16 tournaments, the 0 pointer will replace her worst result outside of mandatory events

They won't lose points, get over it:wavey:

BuTtErFrEnA
Mar 18th, 2009, 02:14 PM
not getting ranking points on two tier 1 tournament will defenitely hurt their seedings on slam.

i'm sorry did you miss AO 07 where a #81 ranked serena, who just missed the seedings by 49 ranking spaces but still managed to win...of course the seeding still affected that win :o seedings in slams for serena and venus only matter to their opponents who'd rather not see them seeded low and end up in their section...:wavey:

Matt01
Mar 18th, 2009, 02:20 PM
1)She won't play 16 tournaments

2) Even if she plays 16 tournaments, the 0 pointer will replace her worst result outside of mandatory events

They won't lose points, get over it:wavey:


I give up. Some people are hopeless.

BuTtErFrEnA
Mar 18th, 2009, 02:20 PM
the question asked was "Are the WS going to lose ranking points for skipping IW this year"
and thereto the answer is NO.

Yes if they played 16+ tournaments a year, not playing Indian Wells will affect their total number of ranking points, however, at this point neither of them have played that much for the past 52 years, and on top of my head, I can't remember the last time any of them had.

i thought that was the operative word in the question....and how can you lose what you never had :shrug: the ws didn't go on with the boycott but then still begged for points...they took their 0on the rankings, so why are some of you obsessing about how it will affect their rankings?? queen linsay :weirdo:

2Black
Mar 18th, 2009, 02:39 PM
matt is obsessed :lol:

Infiniti2001
Mar 18th, 2009, 02:53 PM
Yeah...and they both happen to be brain-dead :lol:.

OUCH!! :lol:

Infiniti2001
Mar 18th, 2009, 02:56 PM
I give up. Some people are hopeless.

It's about bloody time:rolleyes: and to think you tell others to get a life.The irony :help::lol:

DA FOREHAND
Mar 18th, 2009, 04:18 PM
It's about bloody time:rolleyes: and to think you tell others to get a life.The irony :help::lol:

amen.. and they are wrong for calling Dora Hora!


All the WS haters are coming out to celebrate the fact that they will get a Zero as part of their rankings.

The WS don't care enough about rankings to end their boycott of i.w. Skipping that tournament for the past 8 years has not hurt them in any way shape or form.

frenchie
Mar 18th, 2009, 04:21 PM
amen.. and they are wrong for calling Dora Hora!


All the WS haters are coming out to celebrate the fact that they will get a Zero as part of their rankings.

The WS don't care enough about rankings to end their boycott of i.w. Skipping that tournament for the past 8 years has not hurt them in any way shape or form.

What the haters don't know (including Matt01:rolleyes:) is that Serena already has a 0 in her ranking and Venus already has 3:rolleyes:

Serena played has played 15 tournaments in the last 52 weeks and Venus only has 13

Vlover
Mar 18th, 2009, 07:08 PM
What the haters don't know (including Matt01:rolleyes:) is that Serena already has a 0 in her ranking and Venus already has 3:rolleyes:
Serena played has played 15 tournaments in the last 52 weeks and Venus only has 13
:secret: Don't tell them, just let them continue to celebrate and let the Sisters keep winning. The Sisters have been playing with a few 0s for years now and that didn't stop them from reaching top 5 or winning major events.:lol:

young_gunner913
Mar 18th, 2009, 07:59 PM
how can they lose ranking points with nothing to defend? :scratch:

Grand Phantasm
Mar 18th, 2009, 08:00 PM
Lol well I dunno it's mandatory so yeah

Poiree
Mar 18th, 2009, 08:33 PM
I suppose they won't lose them since they didn't play last year either :shrug:

DA FOREHAND
Mar 18th, 2009, 08:55 PM
We will all know who was right Monday morning when the new rankings come out.

Matt01
Mar 18th, 2009, 09:05 PM
What the haters don't know (including Matt01:rolleyes:)

All the WS haters are coming out to celebrate the fact that they will get a Zero as part of their rankings.


And here we are again. I guess everyone who dares to say that IW will affect the WS's ranking must be a hater :rolleyes: :weirdo: