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Dawn Marie
Feb 23rd, 2009, 03:27 AM
Elena
Mauresmo
Serena
Venus
All won titles this year. The oldschool is beating the crap out of the youth. I like it. If these young guns want to be great champs, they really need to beat some of the best players of the past 10 years.

Wiggly
Feb 23rd, 2009, 03:48 AM
Well, this is great for everyone and that's the normal way.
These girls wins then the young players start to win once in a while and finally they are winning everything.

The fact that Davenport, Hingis, Clisjers, Henin and yes, Myskina all retired "early" led to a bunch of players unprepared to be the stars of the Tour and main contenders.

Edinboro
Feb 23rd, 2009, 03:48 AM
I just started a thread similar to this a few days ago. I for one love it. I dont really care for any of these young future stars. Seriosuly I need to remove Cornet from my signature. Ill be honest and say the only two players I like of the much younger generation are Cibulkova and Timea B. although her rankin has fallen considerably. heres to hoping that old school tennis can dominate for another 2 years, please let it be! =P

Talula
Feb 23rd, 2009, 06:51 AM
I agree. The Williams could mop up the slams for the next couple of years ahead if they want. And a few players who 'retired' early could make a ton of dosh if they brushed off their rackets. Imagine if Capriati and Pierce hadn't been so injured and if Lindsay hadn't had babies - they'd still be up there too. And yes, I think it's great seeing Amelie and the Williams win. True big stars, not flash in the pans.

SM
Feb 23rd, 2009, 06:54 AM
The Dokic resurgance this year too, beating 3 top 20 players in a slam...not quite the resurgance of the players you mention but still noteworthy! looks like the game hasnt moved past her

waratahsrock
Feb 23rd, 2009, 06:59 AM
Mauresmo sure bet the crap out of Azarenka at the AO ;)

TennisViewer531
Feb 23rd, 2009, 07:42 AM
It's nice to see major comebacks and I like what I'm seeing. Mauresmo back on track. The Williams sisters back in top five. That's tennis! :)

Jakeev
Feb 23rd, 2009, 08:12 AM
Add Maria Sanchez Martinez to that list who won her first WTA singles title Sunday at 27!!!

tennnisfannn
Feb 23rd, 2009, 08:12 AM
Not to mention players like Flavia p;laying the best tennis of their careers. petrova needs to get her game going again.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Feb 23rd, 2009, 08:49 AM
The williams won the two biggest titles so far :wavey:

Cp6uja
Feb 23rd, 2009, 09:03 AM
What people expect when Sharapova is still out and Ivanovic in slump?

But also all best players of "middle" generation (except Zvonareva) plays pretty worse than last season (Jankovic, Safina, Kuznetsova).

Of course it's nice to see again sisters at their best, or Mauresmo, Dokic... to play like in old good days :drool: It's not impossible if Hantuchova, Petrova, Schnyder will rejoin to them with good form also.

SM
Feb 23rd, 2009, 09:44 AM
Retro tennis ..... how depressing.

Kind of reinforces the feeling that the strength in depth of the WTA Tour is not what many would crack it up to be, and the quality at the top is currently thin.
These players who were top players in the late 1990's had to play against a much stronger top ten then by todays standards.....its only natural that former top ten players like Mauresmo start beating some of the imposters ;)

volta
Feb 23rd, 2009, 09:59 AM
Well, this is great for everyone and that's the normal way.
These girls wins then the young players start to win once in a while and finally they are winning everything.

The fact that Davenport, Hingis, Clisjers, Henin and yes, Myskina all retired "early" led to a bunch of players unprepared to be the stars of the Tour and main contenders.
even though i have lots of young players as favs i agree with this 100%

if Capriati , Kim etc... feel like returning to the tour this is the right moment to do so, hopefully Hingis will be back since her ban ends this year but i doubt it :sad:)

mauresmofan
Feb 23rd, 2009, 10:50 AM
I think it's nice that a lot of fans have put these petty squabbles aside about whose fav is better than whose and we're genuinely happy that these old school players are playing so well. Maybe it's because we have gotten used to their personalities and struggles and can relate more to them. Long may it continue.

laurie
Feb 23rd, 2009, 11:16 AM
I agree it's good to see - especially Amelie's win in Paris with her athletic ability and great volleys.

You can't beat experience.

I know I've said it before and I'll say it again - I am extremely concerned with the lack of variety of the up and coming young players - they all play the same way. The likes of Wozniacki, Vaidisova, Cornet, Klebenova, Safina etc etc don't excite me at all.

I think the Aussie final was a great illustration of the gulf.

Serena has a technically excellent serve, with different types of slice and topspin on both courts, and a technically excellent and strong 2nd serve.

Serena also has a brilliant return of serve, she hardly ever misses a 2nd serve return to put the pressure on or hit winners.

Safina has an extremely shaky 1st and 2nd serve especially when she gets nervous, so it was easy to see why Serena was always going to win that match easily.

The up and coming players have to improve their technique and mental game if they want to stay at the top and be remembered by fans for years to come.

Ben.
Feb 23rd, 2009, 11:59 AM
Like the majority here, it's wonderful to see the most outstanding and experienced players on the tour playing at such a high level and actually winning all of the premier events. Furthermore it's terrific to see the contrasting gamestyles and the athleticism that the WS, Amelie, and Elena all possess that have taken them to either No.1, multiple GS titles, multiple GS finals, and longevity in the Top 10/Top 20.

I was pleased with Venus's win in Dubai. Not only did she served & hit well off the ground she actually came into the net on a number of occassions to attempt to finish the points off more effectively. And what I admired about her was that she wasn't afraid to come into the net and go through the risk of getting passed. Her wingspan is good enough to cover the net at times and she has the athleticism to move forward.

And I was also impressed with Amelie as well too after her Paris win. Came into the net and just played some magnificent volleys.

In general, I think half or the majority of female players are playing the same style of tennis today - heavy hitting from the baseline, groundstrokes that are hard and flat, not coming forward into the net as they are afraid of getting passed, lack of defence, and of course as someone mentioned it variety.

Mind you I don't mind the flat heavy style of hitting (that's just me - I like most/all gamestyles anyway), but it's always a breath of fresh air when you see someone like Amelie, Kim (when she was playing), Justine (when she was playing), or the WS playing.

mauresmofan
Feb 23rd, 2009, 02:12 PM
In general, I think half or the majority of female players are playing the same style of tennis today - heavy hitting from the baseline, groundstrokes that are hard and flat, not coming forward into the net as they are afraid of getting passed, lack of defence, and of course as someone mentioned it variety.

Mind you I don't mind the flat heavy style of hitting (that's just me - I like most/all gamestyles anyway), but it's always a breath of fresh air when you see someone like Amelie, Kim (when she was playing), Justine (when she was playing), or the WS playing.

I agree and if the likes of Hingis decided to come out of retirement again I think she would totally dominate these up and comers because she would hang in the rallies bring them forward and make them play shots they don't like playing.

miffedmax
Feb 23rd, 2009, 02:35 PM
Mauresmo sure bet the crap out of Azarenka at the AO ;)

I was about to say Vika is the one youngster who crashing the party, though her win at Memphis was definitely more or less running the kiddy table. (how's that for mixed metaphor?)

InsideOut.
Feb 23rd, 2009, 02:54 PM
And I'm OK with it. Though I like most of them, the upcoming crop of Cornet, Wozniacki, Azarenka, Paszek, Radwanska, Cibulkova, and co. are all either wildly inconsistent or have very boring games. The old school players are what's keeping this tour healthy and exciting.

Calypso
Feb 23rd, 2009, 03:59 PM
even though i have lots of young players as favs i agree with this 100%

if Capriati , Kim etc... feel like returning to the tour this is the right moment to do so, hopefully Hingis will be back since her ban ends this year but i doubt it :sad:)

I know! This would be such a great time to come back to the tour.

But I wish more younger players would come up that have the quality to challenge for top honours. You'd think someone in their late teens would have come along by now with the sisters, Mauresmo etc edging closer to 30.

Imagine if we had a 'new Martina Hingis', a pecocious 16 year old phenom battling for the top spot with the old guard :drool:!

pav
Feb 23rd, 2009, 05:15 PM
Jesus H Bloody Christ! talk about living in the past! Capriati! Dav!etc. move on you boring buggers, Momo is due for the retirement village as well! Let's start whacking ourselves over a Navrat comeback as well! unbelievable.