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ripper9100
Feb 22nd, 2009, 08:54 PM
I know a bold statement but if it wasn't for the fact that she was sick during the open she would be 3/3 in titles this year. She was raping Serena Williams and had she not been ill she would have won that match and won the tournament. The tour better watch out this year!

Dodoboy.
Feb 22nd, 2009, 08:56 PM
ok

Wiggly
Feb 22nd, 2009, 08:57 PM
I would say she is in the top 8.
Safarova was "raping" her in Brisbane until she talked with her coach.

VishaalMaria
Feb 22nd, 2009, 08:57 PM
LOL!

But she didn't.

And Serena won the Australian Open.

So no, Azarenka isn't number one; to be number one you have to play a good game and be healthy. Azarenka wasn't.

Demska
Feb 22nd, 2009, 08:58 PM
ok

spencercarlos
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:00 PM
Call me when she wins a Tier I event.

Beat
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:02 PM
She was raping Serena Williams

so this clever use of words is spreading from MTF now? :rolleyes:

Marilyn Monheaux
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:08 PM
Call me when she wins a Tier I event.

I would love to get that memo as well:wavey:

jonny84
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:10 PM
Number one if you just take the International events into consideration but not when you include the Premiers.

Nikkiri
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:11 PM
:lol: sure.

Effy
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:12 PM
Call me when she wins a Tier I event.

:spit:

call me too :)

Michaelz
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:13 PM
:spit:

The Daviator
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:13 PM
I know a bold statement but if it wasn't for the fact that she was sick during the open she would be 3/3 in titles this year. She was raping Serena Williams and had she not been ill she would have won that match and won the tournament. The tour better watch out this year!

Play stopping at 6-3 2-4 does not equate to a 'raping'.

She's a very bright prospect but so far unproven at the top level.

FORZA SARITA
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:14 PM
:ignore:

Albireo
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:14 PM
She was raping Serena Williams

http://www.bookswim.com/images_books/large/How_to_Win_Friends__Influence_People-119187767834651.jpg

Read this and get back to us.

Edinboro
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:16 PM
Im sure shell be a star someday, but im hoping she doesnt. Theres something about her I dont like. Easily my least favorite of the up and coming stars.

Slutiana
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:17 PM
Agreed, and i'd say that Brie is probably top 20 too.

Inger67
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:18 PM
Are you kidding? I would love to have JJ as a #1 over Azarenka.

Maybe years down the road but it is just foolish to say she is the #1 of this year.

Vincey!
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:20 PM
Im sure shell be a star someday, but im hoping she doesnt. Theres something about her I dont like. Easily my least favorite of the up and coming stars.

I feel the same way about her, she'll probably be a decent top 10 one day, but I well I'll get one player to hate in the top 10 again :angel:

That thread is a joke btw, even though she would have won against Serena there's no way you can say she would have won the tournment haha, it took to Azarenka something like 4 TierIII final(or something like that) to finally won a tournment, I expect her to struggle to win a a GS for years haha

MaBaker
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:23 PM
:spit:

Christinawww
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:27 PM
lol, as much as I would love for that to be true it isn't. Nobody knows how the match vs Serena would have gone. And even if!!! Vika had won, she has never beaten Kuznetsova before, and her records in finals is not the best, which makes me think she needs to work on her nerves and mentality when playing bigger matches. Don't think she is ready for a grand slam final just yet. She is playing the international events and winning, yes she is a good player, and should win these events, and it is a good way for her to get used to finals. Let's see how she does at Indian Wells and Miami and then make a statement about how her year has been compared to the other players.

Kim's_fan_4ever
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:30 PM
Yes, Maria Sharapova is also undefeated this year so she's #1 too.

volta
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:34 PM
Yes, Maria Sharapova is also undefeated this year so she's #1 too.

:haha:

Hurley
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:37 PM
Maybe alphabetically. :shrug:

switz
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:37 PM
A bold and incorrect statement. lets wait til she wins a tournament with some importance attached to it before making such outlandish statements. seems to remember a pretty miserable fed cup capitulation against Kanepi from Azarenka as well

Ciarán
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:39 PM
:rolleyes:

Dawson.
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:43 PM
yeah sure, she would would have definately won the australian open. I mean, Serena Williams never comes back from a set down...

Dave.
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:44 PM
I wish people would stop saying 'what if?' about the AO :o She wasn't well, she retired, end of. It was horrible to watch, and took a while to get over it, but it's all over and done with now.

Vika's 2009 is top 5 so far though. But I think Elena & Serena have clearly had the best years so far.




Call me when she wins a Tier I event.

That will never happen [/roadmap]

MaBaker
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:45 PM
Maybe alphabetically. :shrug:
Amanmuradova >>> Azarenka

Godis
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:47 PM
I know a bold statement but if it wasn't for the fact that she was sick during the open she would be 3/3 in titles this year. She was raping Serena Williams and had she not been ill she would have won that match and won the tournament. The tour better watch out this year!
Please use the word 'raping' appropriately. It is not a word that you can easily throw around. Do you even know the meaning?

Hurley
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:47 PM
Amanmuradova >>> Azarenka

Arn >>> Azarenka :shrug:

LoveFifteen
Feb 22nd, 2009, 10:07 PM
First, do not use the word rape like this. It's about as uncouth as an Azarenka volley.

Second, this girl hasn't even won a Tier I event yet. You can have fun hyping her up in threads like this, but why don't you just sit back and let her racket do the talking?

Ackms421
Feb 22nd, 2009, 10:13 PM
Serena may have won that match. She's come down from farther in bigger matches plenty of times before.

kman
Feb 22nd, 2009, 10:16 PM
You can have fun hyping her up in threads like this, but why don't you just sit back and let her racket do the talking?


Because, uhm, (s)he has fun hyping her up in threads like this?

new-york
Feb 22nd, 2009, 10:17 PM
certainly the number one herself. :D

young_gunner913
Feb 22nd, 2009, 10:18 PM
:spit: If by some miracle Vika beat Serena she would have been "raped" by Dementieva.

saul1333
Feb 22nd, 2009, 10:20 PM
dont think she had/has the ability to win a major...but she has 2 titles this year...but NO.

Sectumsempra
Feb 22nd, 2009, 10:21 PM
azarenka is the greatest player of all time :eek:!

Temperenka
Feb 22nd, 2009, 10:21 PM
I'm a pretty big Vika fan and this is a pretty dumb thread. Vika is improving greatly this year and becoming someone that will start making consistent deep pushes at some point this year but I would say that right now she is the 8th best player in the world by how she is playing. She is still too young and hasn't had too many BIG wins. The two titles this year are very promising but not telling quite yet.
Go Vika :banana:

MarieC
Feb 22nd, 2009, 10:29 PM
I'm on the Vika train but this thread is ridiculous. She hasn't had a win against a top 10 player yet this season. Put up some results in a premier event against top 10 players then we can talk

joăo.
Feb 22nd, 2009, 10:38 PM
Yes, Maria Sharapova is also undefeated this year so she's #1 too.

Never thought about this but so true. :worship:

charmedRic
Feb 22nd, 2009, 10:40 PM
http://www.bookswim.com/images_books/large/How_to_Win_Friends__Influence_People-119187767834651.jpg

Read this and get back to us.


:lol: touche!

~Cherry*Blossom~
Feb 23rd, 2009, 02:21 AM
If she did end up beating Serena, which is no way certain, we'd be talking about Dementieva as the best player in the world this year!

spencercarlos
Feb 23rd, 2009, 03:05 AM
I wish people would stop saying 'what if?' about the AO :o She wasn't well, she retired, end of. It was horrible to watch, and took a while to get over it, but it's all over and done with now.

Vika's 2009 is top 5 so far though. But I think Elena & Serena have clearly had the best years so far.






That will never happen [/roadmap]
Sorry Dave minnie mouse event wins does not make you top 5 material.

Ken Lee
Feb 23rd, 2009, 03:18 AM
Serena is by far the number one this year, she was also number one most of last year! She is the best!

Dave.
Feb 23rd, 2009, 03:19 AM
Sorry Dave minnie mouse event wins does not make you top 5 material.

Ok, I just checked the race and she's 7th right now, so just outside the top 5 ;) She and Dementieva are the only players to win multiple events, and her only loss this year was by retirement. She is only 60 points away from Venus at 5, so really another good run at IW should put her there.

and, if you look at the players ranked above her in the race, Vika has still arguably had a better year. Safina, Venus, Razzano have all suffered early-round losses and Vika has won 3+ matches in every event so far.

Black Mamba.
Feb 23rd, 2009, 03:26 AM
http://i41.tinypic.com/2pr29.gif

spencercarlos
Feb 23rd, 2009, 03:33 AM
Ok, I just checked the race and she's 7th right now, so just outside the top 5 ;) She and Dementieva are the only players to win multiple events, and her only loss this year was by retirement. She is only 60 points away from Venus at 5, so really another good run at IW should put her there.

and, if you look at the players ranked above her in the race, Vika has still arguably had a better year. Safina, Venus, Razzano have all suffered early-round losses and Vika has won 3+ matches in every event so far.
Again Dave, minnie mouse events does not make you a top 5 player, period.

Lets give you a cheap example, in 2002 Anna Smashnova won something like 4 titles that number put her surely among the top 5 # of tournament winners for the year... was she really a top 5 player? even a top 10 player? :lol:

Still i have seen Azarenka, and bar from being a Sharapova clone (which annoys me tremendously) i think she has a very solid game off the ground, she moves very well, and seems to be mentally a strong player, but she is still lacking the big results at the big events. Can she? will she? we'll see.

Harvs
Feb 23rd, 2009, 03:34 AM
she probably would have beaten serena... but it didnt happen... therefore shes NOT the #1 player this year

Uranium
Feb 23rd, 2009, 03:35 AM
Vika would not have won AO, I like her, but she just won her first tournament in Brisbane on about 5 tries in a final, I don't see her winning a slam for a few years.

Serena is by far the number one this year, she was also number one most of last year! She is the best!

Really? Don't see how less than 12% of the year being #1 is most of the year, but whatever:lol:

spencercarlos
Feb 23rd, 2009, 03:35 AM
Ok, I just checked the race and she's 7th right now, so just outside the top 5 ;) She and Dementieva are the only players to win multiple events, and her only loss this year was by retirement. She is only 60 points away from Venus at 5, so really another good run at IW should put her there.

and, if you look at the players ranked above her in the race, Vika has still arguably had a better year. Safina, Venus, Razzano have all suffered early-round losses and Vika has won 3+ matches in every event so far.
Safina just reached a slam final and a Tier II final, sorry but again is not about quantity but quality. Ridiculous to consider Azarenka's year so far better than Safina, or Venus who just won a Tier II? Dubai not sure, but beat Dementieva and Serena along the way.

Dawn Marie
Feb 23rd, 2009, 03:52 AM
Look, face facts. Serena was up in the second set. Serena is known to come back and win matches. Serena won 10 slams. Vika was unable to complete the match. She was sick and was down 2/4. She lost. the universe will never know the outcome IF she were to complete the match. The facts are Vika retired.
She's not the #1 player. Has she even beaten a top 10 player this year?
Put her retirement past behind you and move on.

BuTtErFrEnA
Feb 23rd, 2009, 03:56 AM
Yes, Maria Sharapova is also undefeated this year so she's #1 too.

:rolls:

well i love me some vika, but let's be real here :lol:

ghost world
Feb 23rd, 2009, 04:30 AM
I know a bold statement but if it wasn't for the fact that she was sick during the open she would be 3/3 in titles this year. She was raping Serena Williams and had she not been ill she would have won that match and won the tournament. The tour better watch out this year!

http://i43.tinypic.com/2dtdkcg.gif

dreamgoddess099
Feb 23rd, 2009, 04:35 AM
yeah sure, she would would have definately won the australian open. I mean, Serena Williams never comes back from a set down...
And apparently never at the AO either. Somebody may want to tell Kim, Venus, Maria, Lindsay, and Sveta that. Or maybe it's easier to come back against grand slams champs than Azarenka.

dreamgoddess099
Feb 23rd, 2009, 04:37 AM
http://i43.tinypic.com/2dtdkcg.gif

:spit::haha:

rjd1111
Feb 23rd, 2009, 05:04 AM
I know a bold statement but if it wasn't for the fact that she was sick during the open she would be 3/3 in titles this year. She was raping Serena Williams and had she not been ill she would have won that match and won the tournament. The tour better watch out this year!

Given the way Serena's career has gone and the numerous times

she has come back, how in the hell can you say She would have

lost that match. It ain't over til its over. Its not Serena's

fault that Vicky couldn't take the heat.

rjd1111
Feb 23rd, 2009, 05:06 AM
Call me when she wins a Tier I event.

Don't call me. I can't wait that long.

Caillou
Feb 23rd, 2009, 05:11 AM
i think we would all appreciate it if you didn't come on wtaworld drunk out of your mind. that'd awesome for us

pepaw
Feb 23rd, 2009, 05:15 AM
i like azarenka a lot but i think people are hyping her up to be something that shes just not. she plays a watered down version of sharapova's game and doesnt have the same killer mentality.

дalex
Feb 23rd, 2009, 09:31 AM
http://i38.tinypic.com/16kb7y8.jpg

Cp6uja
Feb 23rd, 2009, 09:53 AM
2009 so far:

1. Serena
2. Dementieva
3. Safina
4. Venus
5. Zvonareva
6. Azarenka
7. French (Razzano or Mauresmo or Cornet or Bartoli)
...


#6 after 2 months is actually very impressive.

LUXXXAS
Feb 23rd, 2009, 12:04 PM
:spit:
she is No.1 of MM tournies so far this year...

ripper9100
Feb 23rd, 2009, 03:28 PM
All you guys who think Serena could have come back are delusional Serena was playing vg and was still getting blown off the court until Azarenka's fatigue kicked in early in the second set. That match reminded me of the 04 Wimbledon final where we witnessed Serena getting pushed all over the court and we all know the outcome of that match.

raffles
Feb 23rd, 2009, 06:13 PM
http://i38.tinypic.com/16kb7y8.jpg

Is that a clip from that documentary classic "In Bed with Jelena"?

youizahoe
Feb 23rd, 2009, 06:55 PM
Azarenka? She won't even be top 10 at the end of this year.

Edith09
Feb 23rd, 2009, 07:29 PM
She is having good year so far, but the best player? Surely no.

mdterp01
Feb 23rd, 2009, 07:40 PM
All you guys who think Serena could have come back are delusional Serena was playing vg and was still getting blown off the court until Azarenka's fatigue kicked in early in the second set. That match reminded me of the 04 Wimbledon final where we witnessed Serena getting pushed all over the court and we all know the outcome of that match.

Pass the blunt please.

jrm
Feb 23rd, 2009, 07:41 PM
:yawn:

newbie science-fiction

SAEKeithSerena
Feb 23rd, 2009, 08:32 PM
Call me when she wins a Tier I event.


:worship:

BuTtErFrEnA
Feb 24th, 2009, 12:13 AM
Pass the blunt please.

:rolls: i know right

simplydeep
Feb 24th, 2009, 12:19 AM
I know a bold statement but if it wasn't for the fact that she was sick during the open she would be 3/3 in titles this year. She was raping Serena Williams and had she not been ill she would have won that match and won the tournament. The tour better watch out this year!

How do you know that, if i remember she won the first set and Serena brokes in the first game then she got sick, that means we would really not know the end result, why is it people go on if she hadn't been sick point is she was and retired there for you can't call a match that did not finish, if you know of Serena then you know she never gives up and coming back is what she does.

As far as the number 1 player i don't think so, these young girls come with a flash and fail to be consistent enough to A be number 1 and B keep them at number 1. Serena is rightfully number 1.

Its easy to win small tournaments why exactly didn't she go to she premier in Dubai, stiffer competition and thus we would really see where her game is instead she goes to Memphis who exactly is there to test her no one. :rolleyes:

VenusSerenaBlvd.
Feb 24th, 2009, 12:28 AM
Azarenka could've won, but she didn't. She WAS NOT FIT enough to beat Serena! If you can't compete, you can't win! Serena was not playing good tennis the first week and a half. She was playing sub-par tennis for real. I guess all of us Serena fans are delusional because Serena will always try her hardest to comeback in a match (esp. in the Grand Slams).

simplydeep
Feb 24th, 2009, 12:33 AM
^^ don't know about being fit because she had food poisoning didn't she that's nothing to do with fitness, unless i'm wrong.

Black Mamba.
Feb 24th, 2009, 01:34 AM
All you guys who think Serena could have come back are delusional Serena was playing vg and was still getting blown off the court until Azarenka's fatigue kicked in early in the second set. That match reminded me of the 04 Wimbledon final where we witnessed Serena getting pushed all over the court and we all know the outcome of that match.

http://i44.tinypic.com/qx6ge9.jpg

frupachino
Feb 24th, 2009, 02:17 AM
i agree with the OP.
people are so retarded, they only start screaming after and loving a player once they win heaps of titles.

"oh hay, tell me when azarenka wins blah blah blah".
so what, you're gonna like her then? all of a sudden "yeahhh i love azarenka!"

what a load of crock.
some people actually like and respect players for who they are and their playing abilities, and the potential they see in them... blah blah superficial rena fans etc etc i'm so bored already.

yeah, azarenka rules.

TennisViewer531
Feb 24th, 2009, 02:25 AM
Azarenka is definitely a player to watch! :)

raffles
Feb 24th, 2009, 02:51 AM
i agree with the OP.
people are so retarded, they only start screaming after and loving a player once they win heaps of titles.

"oh hay, tell me when azarenka wins blah blah blah".
so what, you're gonna like her then? all of a sudden "yeahhh i love azarenka!"

what a load of crock.
some people actually like and respect players for who they are and their playing abilities, and the potential they see in them... blah blah superficial rena fans etc etc i'm so bored already.

yeah, azarenka rules.

Ha ha I knew half of those Serena fans were glory hunters like all those Manchester United fans who couldn't find Manchester on a map of Manchester.

ripper9100
Mar 19th, 2009, 07:32 AM
Still stand by my statement.

rjd1111
Mar 19th, 2009, 08:05 AM
I know a bold statement but if it wasn't for the fact that she was sick during the open she would be 3/3 in titles this year. She was raping Serena Williams and had she not been ill she would have won that match and won the tournament. The tour better watch out this year!

I guess it was impossible for Serena to come back

from losing the first set 3-6 since she doesn't have

a history turning matches around and winning.

Malva
Mar 19th, 2009, 08:06 AM
Azarenka undeniably and deservedly commands the greatest attention at the moment but saying that she has been #1 this year is a typical overstatement that can and will provoke a lot of hostility.

For me, Serena Willims and the commanding manner she won the Australian title is the proof that she is #1 this year thus far. #2 spot is where Elena Dementieva, Venus Williams, and Viktoria Azarenka, can lay their claims. These four have been more impressive than the rest: Vera was steady but not sparkling, Dinara actually doing better than her game, Jelena struggling, Ana still uncertain about how much of a threat she is right now, Svetlana while still showing brilliance in some matches suffered two embarrassing recent defeats, Agnieszka barely recovering from one illness has been succumbing to another one three times this season.

LudwigDvorak
Mar 19th, 2009, 08:09 AM
The most exciting aspect of Indian Wells is that when it's over I'll be able to put up my top ten performers of '09 thread, and I'll end the debate on where Azarenka should be. ;)

rjd1111
Mar 19th, 2009, 08:13 AM
Ok, I just checked the race and she's 7th right now, so just outside the top 5 ;) She and Dementieva are the only players to win multiple events, and her only loss this year was by retirement. She is only 60 points away from Venus at 5, so really another good run at IW should put her there.

and, if you look at the players ranked above her in the race, Vika has still arguably had a better year. Safina, Venus, Razzano have all suffered early-round losses and Vika has won 3+ matches in every event so far.

Didn't Venus win 2 events this year?

Christinawww
Mar 19th, 2009, 08:26 AM
The most exciting aspect of Indian Wells is that when it's over I'll be able to put up my top ten performers of '09 thread, and I'll end the debate on where Azarenka should be. ;)

yeah, I've been looking forward to this thread for weeks already.

LudwigDvorak
Mar 19th, 2009, 08:28 AM
yeah, I've been looking forward to this thread for weeks already.

:lol: Thank you! I love hearing it. Last year I started it after Miami's conclusion, so I wanted to keep it in the same time vicinity.

Only two more days.

mckyle.
Mar 19th, 2009, 08:28 AM
Call me when she wins a Tier I event.

Well that will never happen since Tier Is no longer exist, but she's pretty darn close to winning her first premier mandatory.

AnDyDog621
Mar 19th, 2009, 08:53 AM
:lol: Thank you! I love hearing it. Last year I started it after Miami's conclusion, so I wanted to keep it in the same time vicinity.

Only two more days.

I can't wait to see where Dinara and Venus is put on your list this year :-D

Sally Todd
Mar 19th, 2009, 09:25 AM
I'm assuming that certain skeptics were passing the dutchie tonight. ;)

No doubt Serena is the #1 player this year, when it counts. And the #1 on tour.

But Azarenka has had the most solid year of any player. And the way she is playing right now is no joke.

Christinawww
Mar 19th, 2009, 09:30 AM
:lol: Thank you! I love hearing it. Last year I started it after Miami's conclusion, so I wanted to keep it in the same time vicinity.

Only two more days.

I've made my own little list too - that's how much I've been looking forward to your thread. It's rather difficult

BuTtErFrEnA
Mar 19th, 2009, 09:36 AM
I'm assuming that certain skeptics were passing the dutchie tonight. ;)

No doubt Serena is the #1 player this year, when it counts. And the #1 on tour.

But Azarenka has had the most solid year of any player. And the way she is playing right now is no joke.

how can you be the most solid player and not anywhere near the top 5? and your biggest win is a former tier 3 tournament....:confused:

Sam L
Mar 19th, 2009, 09:40 AM
Overrated... :yawn:

rockstar
Mar 19th, 2009, 10:07 AM
LOL!

But she didn't.

And Serena won the Australian Open.

So no, Azarenka isn't number one; to be number one you have to play a good game and be healthy. Azarenka wasn't.

coming from a ws fan! :spit:

Christinawww
Mar 19th, 2009, 10:29 AM
how can you be the most solid player and not anywhere near the top 5? and your biggest win is a former tier 3 tournament....:confused:

I partly agree with you. It is "easy" to be solid when avoiding Paris and Dubai and playing MM Memphis instead. However, the reason she isn't near the top 5 has almost nothing to do with being solid in 2009, due to the fact that rankings go back 52 weeks. No one claimed she was solid in 2008.

aezzei
Mar 19th, 2009, 10:58 AM
Hope so :bounce:

améliemomo
Mar 19th, 2009, 12:22 PM
Overrated... :yawn:

cant tell it better:zzz:

SM
Mar 19th, 2009, 12:57 PM
She is a future no.1 player IMO and she should win a few slams.

Give her time. She is making all the right moves this year!

vwfan
Mar 19th, 2009, 01:07 PM
Ok, I just checked the race and she's 7th right now, so just outside the top 5 ;) She and Dementieva are the only players to win multiple events, and her only loss this year was by retirement. She is only 60 points away from Venus at 5, so really another good run at IW should put her there.

and, if you look at the players ranked above her in the race, Vika has still arguably had a better year. Safina, Venus, Razzano have all suffered early-round losses and Vika has won 3+ matches in every event so far.Venus has won two tournaments as well.

Ellery
Mar 19th, 2009, 01:08 PM
Vika :worship:

I think I might be hopping on the bandwagon :bounce:

AnnaK_4ever
Mar 19th, 2009, 01:31 PM
I'm assuming that certain skeptics were passing the dutchie tonight. ;)

No doubt Serena is the #1 player this year, when it counts. And the #1 on tour.

But Azarenka has had the most solid year of any player. And the way she is playing right now is no joke.

Wrong.
Serena has had the most solid year so far : at least semifinal at all tournaments she played including a title run at the biggest event.

Cp6uja
Mar 19th, 2009, 01:50 PM
Vika is serious contender for "MOST CONSISTENT PLAYER on TOUR" award/title, but she still must to prove many things herself (and to whole World). Don't forget that yesterday she reach careers only 4th TOP10 win (1st in 2009)... but anyway... player able to serve in 2nd set against #2 Safina 95% 1st serve IN and beating her that set with breadstick, and also wins 5 last games in the row in decider deserve big credit and respect.

We need to see how she will finish this tournament before rate her 2009 season so far.

TennisViewer531
Mar 19th, 2009, 01:56 PM
she's still young so she'll eventually get to the higher echelons of women's tennis... :)

SAEKeithSerena
Mar 19th, 2009, 02:24 PM
disagree.

2Black
Mar 19th, 2009, 03:04 PM
All Hype ... I can't wait until Ana punishes that weak serve. Azarenka better be consistently getting in 80% first serves because 94 mph 1st serves will not cut it against the real #1.

HRHoliviasmith
Mar 19th, 2009, 03:07 PM
:rolleyes:

Richie's
Mar 19th, 2009, 03:44 PM
If she beat Vera and Aga lose today, she will enter Top 10 and bet Ana in the Final!

Kamensky
Mar 19th, 2009, 03:48 PM
Azarenka 17-1 this year she's definitely having the best early season start on WTA along with Serena . It will be strengthened if she wins her first big title here.

DA FOREHAND
Mar 19th, 2009, 03:53 PM
coming from a ws fan! :spit:

YEs coming from a WS fan. They have both been number 1. If you hadn't noticed Serena Williams is currently number 1.

D. Hantu has never been close..S.Y.P.H.:tape:

Dave.
Mar 19th, 2009, 04:03 PM
Venus has won two tournaments as well.

Not when I posted that. ;)

Kamensky
Mar 19th, 2009, 04:11 PM
Venus also lost very early in Australia so she's not up there.

Serena Azarenka so far then you have Lena Vera Venus Safina something like that.

Jose.
Mar 19th, 2009, 04:16 PM
Yep Azarenka has talent and everything to end the year in top 3, atleast :p

And her coach is Portuguese :drool: :angel:

DA FOREHAND
Mar 19th, 2009, 04:30 PM
desperate much...

will someone please come and save the tour from more Williams domination

Kamensky
Mar 19th, 2009, 04:35 PM
Domination where are they now in the 2nd biggest tournament of the year so far ? I see Viktoria Vera Ana Anastasia Agnieszka but no WS...

Zvonareva-Azarenka 1/2 can't get much better tennis wise and look wise.

Galsen
Mar 19th, 2009, 04:36 PM
I didn't realize she onle lost agaisnt Serena and it wasn't really a defeat woow Bravo Vicky

starin
Mar 19th, 2009, 04:46 PM
Domination where are they now in the 2nd biggest tournament of the year so far ? I see Viktoria Vera Ana Anastasia Agnieszka but no WS...

Zvonareva-Azarenka 1/2 can't get much better tennis wise and look wise.

:smash:

Kamensky
Mar 19th, 2009, 04:56 PM
Open your eyes that's the truth. The Final 6 is Vera Vika Ana Nastya Sybille Aga...2nd Biggest tournament of 2009 so far...

Galsen
Mar 19th, 2009, 04:58 PM
Domination where are they now in the 2nd biggest tournament of the year so far ? I see Viktoria Vera Ana Anastasia Agnieszka but no WS...

Zvonareva-Azarenka 1/2 can't get much better tennis wise and look wise.

are you serious?:eek:

starin
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:13 PM
Open your eyes that's the truth. The Final 6 is Vera Vika Ana Nastya Sybille Aga...2nd Biggest tournament of 2009 so far...

:smash::smash::smash:

yes everything you said is true, also the sun is up and the moon is nowhere to be found.......

BuTtErFrEnA
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:15 PM
plz don't feed the troll :lol: it eventually goes away when no one responds as in the other threads it tried to hijack

Sally Todd
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:36 PM
Azarenka 17-1 this year she's definitely having the best early season start on WTA along with Serena . It will be strengthened if she wins her first big title here.

I guess I'll just quote your post to Anarena and AnnaKForever, since they're convinced I'm flat-out incorrect.

First off, the term I used, solid, is a matter of opinion. Second, can someone explain to me how 17-1 isn't solid?

Especially since the 1 loss was a match she was winning until she showed signs of sickness. (That's the truth: deal with it.)

To note these things isn't to take away Serena's achievements. She's clearly the #1 player of the year IMO, and the deserved #1 in the current rankings.

And Venus and Elena are up there with Vika, as Malva said, just behind Serena. But they are not more solid in 09. Venus's game went AWOL in Australia. Elena has some losses.

I'm not even a Vika fan, though she's winning me over. Which I hope would be allowed? Some people act like you have to form an immediate opinion about a player based on their first WTA match and then never budge from it. It's tired.

The WTA could use some players who are delivering good tennis. That's what Vika is doing right now. So sue her.

slamchamp
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:40 PM
:haha: uhmmm serena and dementieva??:shrug:

Douce
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:44 PM
Remember when Srebotnik beat Ree at RG last yr...where has she gone to guys? Did she win RG...she sure looked like future number 1 after that win, especially when Serena was playing out of her mind that match too. Like someone else said in another thread...she's on Serena's radar gun without even beating her! I'm quite sure when she see's her, she's thinking another little Pova clone, and will def pound this chick next time they meet!

Lolo8
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:52 PM
Ain't it funny when someone comes along and beat a Williams or in Azarenka's case almost beat a Williams that player is hailed as the second coming. I see another Sharapova clone in the making with her intensity and grunts where everyone now is looking towards her to challenge Serena. How pathetic.

Sexysova
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:56 PM
:spit:

Volcana
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:57 PM
Safina is the first top ten player Azarenka defeated this year. She has also beaten one top twenty player, Wozniacki. People tried to anoint Hantuchova as a great player based on a lone tournament. And then she didn't win another one for five years.

Protoss
Mar 19th, 2009, 05:59 PM
1 loss? So her losses to Caro and Kanepi in Fed Cup don't count? :shrug:

AndreConrad
Mar 19th, 2009, 06:08 PM
Serena and Elena are way ahead of everyone this year. The win of this tournament will not make her number 1 just yet. Nevertheless it doesn't take away anything from her great performance this year so far. Great job Victoria :yeah:

harloo
Mar 19th, 2009, 06:13 PM
All you guys who think Serena could have come back are delusional Serena was playing vg and was still getting blown off the court until Azarenka's fatigue kicked in early in the second set. That match reminded me of the 04 Wimbledon final where we witnessed Serena getting pushed all over the court and we all know the outcome of that match.

Or maybe you're delusional to automatically assume that a 9 time grand slam champion who's proven her fighting ability for years couldn't turn the match around. Azarenka was withering away in the second set and if it went to a third her inexperience would play a significant role in the outcome.

Slutiana
Mar 19th, 2009, 06:17 PM
Pathetic thread.

harloo
Mar 19th, 2009, 06:18 PM
Ain't it funny when someone comes along and beat a Williams or in Azarenka's case almost beat a Williams that player is hailed as the second coming. I see another Sharapova clone in the making with her intensity and grunts where everyone now is looking towards her to challenge Serena. How pathetic.

This is what really gets me. This chick hasn't really proven anything and all of the sudden she's being anointed as the savior of women's tennis. :lol: I guess coming close defeating a sister gets you some type of accolades. I would like to see how she handles everything once the weight of expectations are on her shoulder. Right now it's easy but the hard part comes when you're under more pressure. We'll see.

Sally Todd
Mar 19th, 2009, 06:21 PM
God.

People are reacting to the thread title and not reading any content. Coming in and posting all kinds of anti-Azarenka stuff out of insecurity or arrogance about their faves or something. The entire Earth doesn't revolve around Ree and Rena. This thread has been around for weeks, people. It's just getting revived now. Because Azarenka continues to post good results. Not because of some evil save the world from the Williams' plot. Kudos to Venus and Serena for actually playing great tennis. Along with Elena and a few others they are total exception to the rule.

Malva, you're right. The thread title isn't doing Azarenka any favors in terms of popularity here. Venus and Serena are my longtime faves (well, Venus definitely is) on tour, and I love Elena too. But it turns me off how people are so quick to beat down a young upstart and insult them without even knowing what they're talking about.

Who knows how Vika will do? She could lose to workmanlike Bepa in the next round.

But for my money her game is solid and built to last, something the WTA sorely needs right now. Way too much ugly error-strewn tennis or nonstop retrieving by top players.

Kamensky
Mar 19th, 2009, 06:24 PM
Exactly because what's been posted here recently is that she's clearly #2 behind Serena so far in 2009 with a 17-1 record and possibly the 2nd biggest title of the year so far going to her...Vera Venus Elena Dinara also have good starts but 2009 so far = Serena and Aza

debopero
Mar 19th, 2009, 06:39 PM
but Serena beat her at the AO. :p

Kamensky
Mar 19th, 2009, 06:49 PM
Are you Blind??????????? I said she's #2 behind Serena........Some people here....

Olórin
Mar 19th, 2009, 07:00 PM
Lol

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 19th, 2009, 07:07 PM
In order to win her QF match Azarenka needed a 1 Winner / 3 Unforced errors ratio from Safina . I don´t see what is so spectacular about it :shrug:

Kamensky
Mar 19th, 2009, 07:15 PM
Who cares she won looser in order for Serena to win AO she needed someone who was destroying her to quit...Win=Win

Azarenka future #1 and the new queen of tennis.

Br'er Rabbit
Mar 19th, 2009, 08:14 PM
In no disrespect to Victoria, but she is no where near being the best or even #1 player so far this year. The thread starter clearly doesn;t know his facts, becuase if he/she did they would know Dementieva won three events so far this year, Venus winning in Dubai and Serena taking the AO. I swear so many people on this board love to play the IF game, If so and so was suppose to win this or be ranked that, it would have happened, not because you feel it should be.

Ryan
Mar 19th, 2009, 08:23 PM
In no disrespect to Victoria, but she is no where near being the best or even #1 player so far this year. The thread starter clearly doesn;t know his facts, becuase if he/she did they would know Dementieva won three events so far this year, Venus winning in Dubai and Serena taking the AO. I swear so many people on this board love to play the IF game, If so and so was suppose to win this or be ranked that, it would have happened, not because you feel it should be.



Actually, you should brush up on your own facts guy. Elena has two titles this year. And nowhere near the best, or #1? She's 17-1, which is the best record on tour this year. She's got two titles to her own credit - no, neither were very big, but it's clear she's playing the best tennis of her life. And I'd put her year right behind Serena, and on par with Venus' and Elena's.

BuTtErFrEnA
Mar 19th, 2009, 10:49 PM
17-1 with her biggest win at Memphis, a former tier 3...anyone could clean up house in those tournaments but always fail against the big players...safina was her biggest win for the year...and she still hasn't won anything big...

AO title, SF sydney, SF Paris, SF dubai >>>>>>>>>>>> Memphis and Auckland titles

Malva
Mar 19th, 2009, 11:01 PM
I partly agree with you. It is "easy" to be solid when avoiding Paris and Dubai and playing MM Memphis instead. However, the reason she isn't near the top 5 has almost nothing to do with being solid in 2009, due to the fact that rankings go back 52 weeks. No one claimed she was solid in 2008.

Everything factually correct, and a sound response.

pepaw
Mar 19th, 2009, 11:52 PM
id say she is 4th this year after the williams and dementieva. brisbane was good, beat some decent opponents. ao was sort of a write-off (who knows how she would have done without that unfortunate illness?), she rebounded well though, beat some okay opponents in memphis. now is when she shows if she can really step up, if she beats vera and goes on to win the title, then i'd think about calling her #1.

Br'er Rabbit
Mar 19th, 2009, 11:58 PM
Actually, you should brush up on your own facts guy. Elena has two titles this year. And nowhere near the best, or #1? She's 17-1, which is the best record on tour this year. She's got two titles to her own credit - no, neither were very big, but it's clear she's playing the best tennis of her life. And I'd put her year right behind Serena, and on par with Venus' and Elena's.

You make it sound like she had all 17 of those wins happened agaisnt top players and at the big events. Yes besides the win over Safina, who else did she had to play where she wasn't the better player or favorite to win the match? Don't get me wrong 17-1 is a great record but like I said she was better than most the people she had to play and hardly was playing anyone that could beat her.

Volcana
Mar 20th, 2009, 12:06 AM
Race points would seem to be germaine to the discussion

Rank Pts Tours
2750 [4] WILLIAMS, SERENA USA
2170 [5] DEMENTIEVA, ELENA RUS
1721 [3] SAFINA, DINARA RUS
1380 [3] ZVONAREVA, VERA RUS
1180 [3] WILLIAMS, VENUS USA
1091 [5] BARTOLI, MARION FRA
0842 [5] RAZZANO, VIRGINIE FRA
0840 [3] AZARENKA, VICTORIA BLR

Emina.
Mar 20th, 2009, 12:10 AM
# 1 = Serena Williams :) :worship:

Christinawww
Mar 20th, 2009, 09:23 AM
Vika is serious contender for "MOST CONSISTENT PLAYER on TOUR" award/title, but she still must to prove many things herself (and to whole World). Don't forget that yesterday she reach careers only 4th TOP10 win (1st in 2009)... but anyway... player able to serve in 2nd set against #2 Safina 95% 1st serve IN and beating her that set with breadstick, and also wins 5 last games in the row in decider deserve big credit and respect.

We need to see how she will finish this tournament before rate her 2009 season so far.

four top10 wins, eh?

http://www.hantuchova-fan.com/azarenka-fan/Top10.php

I count it as number 6

Serenita
Mar 20th, 2009, 04:12 PM
ooh please no1 player..

bobbynorwich
Mar 20th, 2009, 05:05 PM
Azarenka is coming up strong, has potential to be No 1. If not this year, then next.

2Black
Mar 20th, 2009, 10:19 PM
REALLY? THis girl I'm watching right now against Vera is your #1 pick so far of '09. You mean the same girl who had 5 winners & 15 unforced errors in the 1st set and down 3-6, 2-4 is your #1 player. The same girl who hasn't won any big titles in '09 is your # 1 player. The same girl who can't control her nerves in major matches is your #1 player.

I guess people settle for anything these days!!!

starin
Mar 20th, 2009, 10:47 PM
:confused: is Azarenka still the real #1?

maddogz48
Mar 21st, 2009, 12:56 AM
:confused: is Azarenka still the real #1?

:lol: This is the exact question I was asking myself after seeing her lose terribly to Zvonareva today.

Hopefully the thread starter can provide an answer to this question soon.

Azarenka needs to at least win a Premier tournament before people can start making b*llsh*t statements that 'Azarenka is the #1 player so far this year' when she has won nothing of importance in her career.

Human Nature
Mar 21st, 2009, 01:02 AM
:confused: is Azarenka still the real #1?


:haha::haha:

Sam L
Mar 21st, 2009, 01:38 AM
She's still overrated. :)

Sally Todd
Mar 21st, 2009, 02:57 AM
She's a teenager and she's improving. Her game is solid.

She's somewhere between:

-- the misguided hype of the thread title
-- the predictable disdain of anyone who wants to flat-out dismiss her strong form this year and/or kick her after a loss.

I'm looking forward to see what she does in 2009. The year is young and so is she. :)

Slammer7
Mar 21st, 2009, 03:56 AM
I for one just want to see her get past the 4th round of a major before anyone crowns her the next big thing. She will turn 20 next month and not reaching a grandslam quarter in your teens is not a good sign. As much as I like Zvonareva and respect her game it is not a good thing to be "owned" by Zvonareva.

pav
Mar 21st, 2009, 04:24 AM
One thing Vika is number one in is the percentage stakes according to this quote on her play today: "I didn't do even 10 percent of my game today. It was a wasted match," Azarenka said. I don't think Rena has had that low a % after a loss!:)

ripper9100
Mar 21st, 2009, 04:43 AM
She was obviously not feeling 100% out there, so today's match changed nothing.

BlameSerena
Mar 21st, 2009, 04:54 AM
She was obviously not feeling 100% out there, so today's match changed nothing.

This can be said for every top player who hasn't been "feeling 100%" when they have played.

If it really meant nothing, then I wouldn't have to argue so much with Henin fans or anyone for that matter when Serena loses. :angel:

BuTtErFrEnA
Mar 21st, 2009, 04:59 AM
She was obviously not feeling 100% out there, so today's match changed nothing.

you're right...this match keeps her as a top 10 player who has never been to a big final before or pass the 4th rd of a slam :shrug:

BuTtErFrEnA
Mar 21st, 2009, 05:01 AM
One thing Vika is number one in is the percentage stakes according to this quote on her play today: "I didn't do even 10 percent of my game today. It was a wasted match," Azarenka said. I don't think Rena has had that low a % after a loss!:)

cause sometimes serena can play that low and win ;) difference in calibre :worship:



:p

mdterp01
Mar 21st, 2009, 05:03 AM
Still no!! :wavey:

DA FOREHAND
Mar 21st, 2009, 05:53 AM
Race points would seem to be germaine to the discussion

Rank Pts Tours
2750 [4] WILLIAMS, SERENA USA
2170 [5] DEMENTIEVA, ELENA RUS
1721 [3] SAFINA, DINARA RUS
1380 [3] ZVONAREVA, VERA RUS
1180 [3] WILLIAMS, VENUS USA
1091 [5] BARTOLI, MARION FRA
0842 [5] RAZZANO, VIRGINIE FRA
0840 [3] AZARENKA, VICTORIA BLR

DONE!

shut this fuk a down! Looks like Vika is 8th?

Christinawww
Mar 21st, 2009, 11:48 AM
I for one just want to see her get past the 4th round of a major before anyone crowns her the next big thing. She will turn 20 next month and not reaching a grandslam quarter in your teens is not a good sign. As much as I like Zvonareva and respect her game it is not a good thing to be "owned" by Zvonareva.

is it July next month, yuik. I have been reading this thread for waaaay too long then, better get back to my life.

bandabou
Mar 21st, 2009, 11:51 AM
And down she went, our no.1 player..meakly.

Dave.
Mar 21st, 2009, 12:02 PM
You can tell by some people's responses that Azarenka being the no.1 isn't such a farfetched claim afterall. If this thread was made about Camille Pin, people would just ignore it or post laughing smilies. But people take this seriously because Azarenka is a threat. As useless as this thread is, at least it shows that people respect Vika, good to see. :)

Cp6uja
Mar 21st, 2009, 01:41 PM
Race points would seem to be germaine to the discussion

Rank Pts Tours
2750 [4] WILLIAMS, SERENA USA
2170 [5] DEMENTIEVA, ELENA RUS
1721 [3] SAFINA, DINARA RUS
1380 [3] ZVONAREVA, VERA RUS
1180 [3] WILLIAMS, VENUS USA
1091 [5] BARTOLI, MARION FRA
0842 [5] RAZZANO, VIRGINIE FRA
0840 [3] AZARENKA, VICTORIA BLR

Today's YEC-RACE Ranking (IW added):
1) 2750 [4] WILLIAMS, SERENA USA
2) 2175 [6] DEMENTIEVA, ELENA RUS
3) 2080 [4] ZVONAREVA, VERA RUS (+300???)
4) 1971 [4] SAFINA, DINARA RUS
5) 1290 [6] AZARENKA, VICTORIA BLR
6) 1180 [3] WILLIAMS, VENUS USA
7) 1130 [4] IVANOVIC, ANA SRB (+300???)
8) 1096 [6] BARTOLI, MARION FRA
----------------------------
9) 0892 [6] RAZZANO, VIRGINIE FRA
10) 870 [6] WOZNIACKI, CAROLINE DEN
11) 840 [4] MAURESMO, AMELIE FRA
12) 811 [6] KANEPI, KAIA EST
13) 675 [6] PAVLYUCHENKOVA, ANASTASIA RUS
14) 635 [5] CORNET, ALIZE FRA
15) 626 [5] KUZNETSOVA, SVETLANA RUS
...etc...


If Vika stay's TOP8 in race at end of season (& qualify to YEC) it will be fantastic for her. You don't must be #1 to have "good year" :tape:

RenaSlam.
Mar 21st, 2009, 04:15 PM
Step to this.

Slammer7
Mar 21st, 2009, 05:16 PM
is it July next month, yuik. I have been reading this thread for waaaay too long then, better get back to my life.

OK, I read somewhere that her birthday was in April, that obviously was a mistake, but that doesn't invalidate my point. She still hasn't been past the 4th round of a major and before this year she hadn't won a title so you can nitpick all you want the most important thing is true. How many great players took this long to win titles and how many took this long to get to a grandslam quarter?

sweetpeas
Mar 21st, 2009, 06:06 PM
How many player's come out,and play Serena like that,the first set and still lose? ALOT!!!!!!!Let's not get this twisted................

Christinawww
Mar 21st, 2009, 07:53 PM
OK, I read somewhere that her birthday was in April, that obviously was a mistake, but that doesn't invalidate my point. She still hasn't been past the 4th round of a major and before this year she hadn't won a title so you can nitpick all you want the most important thing is true. How many great players took this long to win titles and how many took this long to get to a grandslam quarter?

yeah, sorry, I know I was nit-picking. I had a terrible hang-over, resulting in a short circuit in my brain.
You are right that she took way too long to get to a title, and hasn't performed extraordinary in GSs. But she has been one of the better player this year. I agree, not the best, but still one of the better.
She's 5th in the projected race (as Cp6uja posted), but I would like to argue that her year has been better than Safina's. Sure Safina has reached GS final, but she anything less would have been a disappointment by the player who is so close to becoming the number 1.

graffan20
Mar 21st, 2009, 07:54 PM
Not even close. She has won neither of the two biggest events so far this year- Australian Open or now Pacifie Life.

Slammer7
Mar 21st, 2009, 09:03 PM
yeah, sorry, I know I was nit-picking. I had a terrible hang-over, resulting in a short circuit in my brain.
You are right that she took way too long to get to a title, and hasn't performed extraordinary in GSs. But she has been one of the better player this year. I agree, not the best, but still one of the better.
She's 5th in the projected race (as Cp6uja posted), but I would like to argue that her year has been better than Safina's. Sure Safina has reached GS final, but she anything less would have been a disappointment by the player who is so close to becoming the number 1.

Hey it happens to everybody, it was nice of you too apologize, we're cool.:hug: She has had a good year and she definitely deserves to be in the top ten.:)

charmedRic
Mar 22nd, 2009, 03:41 AM
still lame.

graffan20
Mar 22nd, 2009, 04:45 AM
I like Victoria alot but she has alot more to prove at this point.

ripper9100
Apr 1st, 2009, 03:22 AM
I really dislike Serena but I want her to make the final just so Azarenka can teach her a lesson and demonstrate to all the haters who's the best in the game.

HRHoliviasmith
Apr 1st, 2009, 03:29 AM
I really dislike Serena but I want her to make the final just so Azarenka can teach her a lesson and demonstrate to all the haters who's the best in the game.


:scared:

DA FOREHAND
Apr 1st, 2009, 03:46 AM
what has she won this year?

doni1212
Apr 1st, 2009, 03:51 AM
I really dislike Serena but I want her to make the final just so Azarenka can teach her a lesson and demonstrate to all the haters who's the best in the game.

:haha:

Br'er Rabbit
Apr 1st, 2009, 03:55 AM
I really dislike Serena but I want her to make the final just so Azarenka can teach her a lesson and demonstrate to all the haters who's the best in the game.

Let's hope Serena and Victoria make the final so Serena can put Victoria and fans like you in their place :devil:

ripper9100
Apr 4th, 2009, 06:59 PM
Boy it feels good to be right. How's it going haters?

aznunit2k5
Apr 4th, 2009, 07:06 PM
Ripper9100, Azerenka is a crappy player. She got lucky this time around.

mdterp01
Apr 4th, 2009, 07:07 PM
AO > Miami :wavey:

~{X}~
Apr 4th, 2009, 07:07 PM
Relax there ripper, Azarenka played well and good for her to keep her nerve, but if you watched the match, Serena was clearly injured, she could hardly move or serve, so its not that amazing of a win.

When they are both 100% healthy, that will be the match to watch. Not this years AO or Miami.

Temperenka
Apr 4th, 2009, 07:08 PM
Serena is still the best player this year, but Vika is definitely a close second. Great year so far though, simply amazing.

Dave.
Apr 4th, 2009, 07:12 PM
what has she won this year?


Miami :hearts: Sorry I had to answer that :lol:


As AO champ, Miami runner-up, and Dubai/Sydney/Paris SF'list, I still think Serena is the obvious no.1 this year.

But now with the most titles (3), Vika has definetely moved up. She still has only lost 1 match and 1 ret. this year, which is very impressive.

Viktymise
Apr 4th, 2009, 07:21 PM
Vika has definetely moved up. She still has only lost 1 match and 1 ret. this year, which is very impressive.

She lost in the Fed Cup to Kanepi. May be ITF, but a loss is a loss.

Dave.
Apr 4th, 2009, 07:26 PM
She lost in the Fed Cup to Kanepi. May be ITF, but a loss is a loss.

Oh, forgot about that. So 2 losses + 1 ret, that's still got to be one of the best winner/loser percentages this year.

Sally Todd
Apr 4th, 2009, 07:31 PM
Forgot about this thead. :tape:

jefrilibra
Apr 4th, 2009, 07:32 PM
http://i36.tinypic.com/9fmx3m.gif

starin
Apr 4th, 2009, 07:37 PM
Venus has 2 losses this season as well.

But one of those is to Navarro so I guess that counts as 10 losses. :tape::help:

Shawn
Apr 4th, 2009, 08:42 PM
i think the top 3 are Serena, Venus and Azarenka. I really want to see how she plays on clay

MrSerenaWilliams
Apr 4th, 2009, 09:29 PM
http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/2/rankings/race/singles.asp

GrafMariaPetraK
Apr 4th, 2009, 09:30 PM
:spit:

AnomyBC
Apr 4th, 2009, 09:43 PM
Oh, forgot about that. So 2 losses + 1 ret, that's still got to be one of the best winner/loser percentages this year.

She now has the best win/loss percentage this year:

Top Win Percentages This Year

1. Viktoria Azarenka - 88.46%
2. Venus Williams - 88.24%
3. Serena Williams - 87.50%
4. Vera Zvonareva - 86.36%
5. Elena Dementieva - 81.48%

charmedRic
Apr 4th, 2009, 09:50 PM
this dead horse need to be burried.

Cp6uja
Apr 4th, 2009, 11:18 PM
2009 YEC Race TOP20:


1. (5) Serena Williams USA 3450 (690pt per/T)
2. (5) Vera Zvonareva RUS 2460 (492pt per/T)
3. (7) Elena Dementieva RUS 2315 (331pt per/T)
4. (5) Victoria Azarenka BLR 2290 (458pt per/T)
5. (5) Dinara Safina RUS 2051 (410pt per/T)
6. (4) Venus Williams USA 1630 (408pt per/T)
7. (5) Ana Ivanovic SRB 1210 (242pt per/T)
8. (7) Caroline Wozniacki DEN 1120 (160pt per/T)________
9. (7) Marion Bartoli FRA 1101 (157pt per/T)
10. (5) Svetlana Kuznetsova RUS 1076 (215pt per/T)
11. (5) Amelie Mauresmo FRA 980 (196pt per/T)
12. (7) Virginie Razzano FRA 897 (128pt per/T)
13. (8) Iveta Benesova CZE 817 (102pt per/T)
14. (7) Kaia Kanepi EST 791 (113pt per/T)
15. (7) Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova RUS 725 (104pt per/T)
16. (6) Alize Cornet FRA 715 (119pt per/T)
17. (7) Alisa Kleybanova RUS 710 (101pt per/T)
18. (7) Carla Suarez Navarro ESP 705 (101pt per/T)
19. (6) Jie Zheng CHN 695 (116pt per/T)
20. (5) Na Li CHN 651 (130pt per/T)


Vika is currently #4 in Race (#3 in average pts per Tournament) and won 2nd biggest title so far, and also reach more titles than anyone in 2009 and has best 2009 W/L ratio right now. So this thread is not joke anymore :tape:

VivalaSeles
Apr 4th, 2009, 11:20 PM
Call me when she wins a Tier I event.

Calling spencercarlos ;)

AkademiQ
Apr 4th, 2009, 11:25 PM
she's been very very good.

rada
Apr 4th, 2009, 11:27 PM
Calling spencercarlos ;)

:haha: GOLD

Dave.
Apr 4th, 2009, 11:28 PM
Calling spencercarlos ;)

:worship:

MechWarrior2k
Apr 4th, 2009, 11:36 PM
Call me when she wins a Tier I event.

What's your number again? :devil::lol:

pwayne
Apr 4th, 2009, 11:46 PM
Calling spencercarlos ;)

When will spencercarlos come?

VivalaSeles
Apr 4th, 2009, 11:48 PM
When will spencercarlos come?
I haven't been able to reach him yet ;) But, sincerely, as a fan of Sabatini, I like spencercarlos a lot, but, unfortunately, I'm a fan of Vika's as well, so I couldn't let this opportunity pass by :devil:

The Kaz
Apr 5th, 2009, 12:13 AM
Call me when she wins a Tier I event.

Ring Ring!!!!!!! :devil:

Marilyn Monheaux
Apr 5th, 2009, 12:51 AM
Guess I underestimated her! Sorry for that...

I actually got a little excited for her after she won...:lol:
She played good tennis this year and I'm curious to see how she will develop over the next few months since I have no clue about her clay court game.

But don't worry. I'm not going to jump on the Vika bandwagon any time soon:p

bobbynorwich
Apr 5th, 2009, 01:51 AM
She now has the best win/loss percentage this year:

Top Win Percentages This Year

1. Viktoria Azarenka - 88.46%
2. Venus Williams - 88.24%
3. Serena Williams - 87.50%
4. Vera Zvonareva - 86.36%
5. Elena Dementieva - 81.48%

Yeah but the differences between the top 4 are minuscule, not significant enough to be meaningful as compared to each other. However, any time someone is winning 4+ of 5 matches, they're having a very good year.

lizchris
Apr 5th, 2009, 02:23 AM
She is NOT the number one player this year.

If she were, the AO trophy would be in her home instead of Serean's

madlove
Apr 5th, 2009, 02:31 AM
so not true.

mdterp01
Apr 5th, 2009, 03:23 AM
She is NOT the number one player this year.

If she were, the AO trophy would be in her home instead of Serean's


:worship:

bobbynorwich
Apr 5th, 2009, 03:28 AM
She is NOT the number one player this year.

If she were, the AO trophy would be in her home instead of Serean's

We'll never know, due to her food poisoning illness.

AcesHigh
Apr 5th, 2009, 03:30 AM
:LOL: no. Serena is still #1

mdterp01
Apr 5th, 2009, 03:34 AM
We'll never know, due to her food poisoning illness.

Actually....we do know since I believe that was Serena standing next to Dinara holding the championship trophy.

BlameSerena
Apr 5th, 2009, 03:39 AM
We'll never know, due to her food poisoning illness.

Just like we'll never know if Serena would have won due to her leg injury :shrug:

mdterp01
Apr 5th, 2009, 03:43 AM
Just like we'll never know if Serena would have won due to her leg injury :shrug:

Woulda, shoulda, coulda. Bottom line is that Serena didn't win and Azarenka is the 2009 Sony Ericsson Open champion. Injuries and illness happen. Its an individual sport. Hell, I even think something that I usually never hear about should be considered for the women. These girls are all at ages where they still have their periods, so I'm sure some of those what the f*ck losses could be the result of cramps perhaps. I'm sure every single player has had one of those bad days, or struggled because they were on their cycle. Azarenka won today and Serena's knee issue wasn't Vika's concern. Serena won their match in Australia and Vika's food poisoning wasn't of Serena's concern.

BlameSerena
Apr 5th, 2009, 03:46 AM
Woulda, shoulda, coulda. Bottom line is that Serena didn't win and Azarenka is the 2009 Sony Ericsson Open champion. Injuries and illness happen. Its an individual sport. Hell, I even think something that I usually never hear about should be considered for the women. These girls are all at ages where they still have their periods, so I'm sure some of those what the f*ck losses could be the result of cramps perhaps. I'm sure every single player has had one of those bad days, or struggled because they were on their cycle. Azarenka won today and Serena's knee issue wasn't Vika's concern. Serena won their match in Australia and Vika's food poisoning wasn't of Serena's concern.

We agree totally. I was just pointing out that the "should've, could've, would've" bull crap could work in this situation as well. It is what it is and I fully accept that. I don't like those who try to pull the "Vika should've/could've/would've won in Oz" yet won't acknowledge that this is the same situation.

mdterp01
Apr 5th, 2009, 03:51 AM
We agree totally. I was just pointing out that the "should've, could've, would've" bull crap could work in this situation as well. It is what it is and I fully accept that. I don't like those who try to pull the "Vika should've/could've/would've won in Oz" yet won't acknowledge that this is the same situation.

Totally agree. The hypocrisy shown is ridiculous...and it comes from Serena and non Serena fans. The Serena fans who weren't trying to hear anything about Vika's food poisoning in Australia can't be upset now that people won't recognize her leg/knee injury. We will never know but it simply wasn't in the cards. The player who WON in Australia was Serena regardless of food poisoning or not. I don't care if Azarenka was up 6-0, 5-0, 40-love and was about to hit a smash and a freakin plane dropped on her head....SERENA WON. Regardless of Serena's issues today, VIKA WON!!!! No asterick and no excuses. Injuries and illness happen.

bobbynorwich
Apr 5th, 2009, 04:31 AM
Just like we'll never know if Serena would have won due to her leg injury :shrug:

True.

~Cherry*Blossom~
Apr 5th, 2009, 04:50 AM
SF W SF SF F with the win coming at the biggest tournament of the year (a grand slam) shows that Serena is stil the #1 player so far this year!

lizchris
Apr 5th, 2009, 05:29 AM
We'll never know, due to her food poisoning illness.

Actually we do know and the final score in that 4th round match was:

S. Williams Def. V. Azarenka 3-6, 4-2 (30-30), Ret.

Azarenka was sick when she took the court and was advised to give Serena the walkover into the QF, but she didn't, so she got the loss and Serena won the tournament. Serena was probably advised not to play today, but she did and she lost, but she didn't retire from her match. I had a feeling she was going to lose today, so I wasn't surprised she did; I just wanted her to keep the number one ranking, which she did.

spencercarlos
Apr 5th, 2009, 05:34 AM
Ring Ring!!!!!!! :devil:
She did, wow congratulations to her, but she definetly IS NOT the #1 player this year, period.

Anyway I never said she was not going to win a tier I event, i was just pointing out that its ridiculous to call someone #1 player for the year when by February 22nd there was a Grand Slam played, a Tier I already and a couple of Tier II events and she was not even part of a final in any of those.

bobbynorwich
Apr 5th, 2009, 05:48 AM
Azarenka at 19 --- 8 years younger than Serena and 9 years younger than Venus --- is one of the many bright lights on the women's tour.

spencercarlos
Apr 5th, 2009, 05:58 AM
Azarenka at 19 --- 8 years younger than Serena and 9 years younger than Venus --- is one of the many bright lights on the women's tour.
For you and her fans but for me she is a Sharapova clone, and very boring to watch.

adner
Apr 5th, 2009, 06:45 AM
Azarenka is #3 player so far this year, after Serena and Elena.

AnomyBC
Apr 5th, 2009, 08:03 AM
Azarenka is #3 player so far this year, after Serena and Elena.

Why would Elena be higher? Azarenka has won more tournaments and has a better win/loss ratio. Arguably Venus and Vera have slightly better records than Elena so far this year too. I'd rank them like this:

1. Serena
2. Vika
3. Venus
4. Vera
5. Elena

OsloErik
Apr 5th, 2009, 08:11 AM
1. Serena
2. Vika
3. Venus
4. Vera
5. Elena

Vera trumps Venus. Vera has one of the five biggest non-slam events, a smaller title, and a slam semifinal. Venus has a tournament in the 9-14 range, a smaller title, and a slam R32.

adner
Apr 5th, 2009, 08:14 AM
Why would Elena be higher?

I just look at plain numbers and note that she's even no. 4 cuz I forgot about Vera:

1. Serena - 3450 points
2. Vera - 2460 points
3. Elena - 2315 points
4. Victoria - 2290 points

No Name Face
Apr 5th, 2009, 08:28 AM
if she didn't win a slam, she's not #1.

end of story.

In The Zone
Apr 5th, 2009, 08:31 AM
Who is #1 in the Race? That player is #1. Her name is Serena?????????

G1Player2
Apr 5th, 2009, 08:32 AM
Who is #1 in the Race? That player is #1. Her name is Serena?????????

Pretty much. :shrug: I find it funny how many people are fans of Vika now. :tape:

adner
Apr 5th, 2009, 08:36 AM
Who is #1 in the Race? That player is #1. Her name is Serena?????????

Whos #2 in the Race? Isn't that Vera? Isn't Elena no. 3? :worship:

No Name Face
Apr 5th, 2009, 08:47 AM
Who is #1 in the Race? That player is #1. Her name is Serena?????????

Even if Serena was #4 right now, she'd still be #1. I'm so glad she's still there, but she needs to collect these weeks instead of this dead weight that's looking to replace her (Elena included). I never realized how much I cared about the integrity of the tour (over my favorites) until it came to this. Luckily Serena has always been my girl...but really, other than Venus or her..no one deserves #1...or even close to it (which is the issue).

Dinara would be #5 peak in another era even with her "spectacular year" - Elena would never been past #4, JJ would be #3 instead of YEAR END #1. It's such bullshit. Luckily, I don't really care anymore. Serena should just stay #1 until the next REAL contender (Sharapova, Azarenka, Safina don't count) takes the throne.

pepaw
Apr 5th, 2009, 09:10 AM
Even if Serena was #4 right now, she'd still be #1. I'm so glad she's still there, but she needs to collect these weeks instead of this dead weight that's looking to replace her (Elena included). I never realized how much I cared about the integrity of the tour (over my favorites) until it came to this. Luckily Serena has always been my girl...but really, other than Venus or her..no one deserves #1...or even close to it (which is the issue).

Dinara would be #5 peak in another era even with her "spectacular year" - Elena would never been past #4, JJ would be #3 instead of YEAR END #1. It's such bullshit. Luckily, I don't really care anymore. Serena should just stay #1 until the next REAL contender (Sharapova, Azarenka, Safina don't count) takes the throne.

bitch, sharapova doesnt count? :rolleyes: what, are 3 slams not enough?

TennisViewer531
Apr 5th, 2009, 09:14 AM
Azarenka's playing like a number one player.. She could back it up with a Grand Slam victory.... :)

Christinawww
Apr 5th, 2009, 09:19 AM
I just look at plain numbers and note that she's even no. 4 cuz I forgot about Vera:

1. Serena - 3450 points
2. Vera - 2460 points
3. Elena - 2315 points
4. Victoria - 2290 points

I think that the number of tournaments played also must be taken into consideration when looking at the number of points. Elena has played 2 tournaments more than Vika, so even though she is 25 points ahead of Vika, I would say Vika is having the better year of those two.

adner
Apr 5th, 2009, 09:31 AM
I think that the number of tournaments played also must be taken into consideration when looking at the number of points. Elena has played 2 tournaments more than Vika, so even though she is 25 points ahead of Vika, I would say Vika is having the better year of those two.

Well, Vika could have played more tournaments as she's not considered a Top 10 player, it was just her decision not to do so. Serena played just five tournaments and still got to collect much more than both of them. Well, considering Dementieva, she's having very similar year to Vika's one, though she was better in AO.

AnomyBC
Apr 5th, 2009, 11:49 AM
I just look at plain numbers and note that she's even no. 4 cuz I forgot about Vera:

1. Serena - 3450 points
2. Vera - 2460 points
3. Elena - 2315 points
4. Victoria - 2290 points

Ah, OK. That makes sense. It will be interesting to see where she winds up in the year-end rankings.

bandabou
Apr 5th, 2009, 01:01 PM
SF W SF SF F...at tier II or better all of them?! Clearly still no.1 of the year. Despite all what folks wanna talk.

Christinawww
Apr 5th, 2009, 04:08 PM
Well, Vika could have played more tournaments as she's not considered a Top 10 player, it was just her decision not to do so. Serena played just five tournaments and still got to collect much more than both of them. Well, considering Dementieva, she's having very similar year to Vika's one, though she was better in AO.

whether or not she could have played more tournaments isn't really the issue. My point was that I think Vika is having a better year than Dementieva so far, as she has pretty much the same number of points but has played fewer tournaments to gain those points.

bobbynorwich
Apr 5th, 2009, 04:27 PM
The year is still young, only first quarter finished. Better to wait until mid-year to smooth out any blips and take a longer horizon.

BuTtErFrEnA
Apr 5th, 2009, 05:47 PM
SF W SF SF F...at tier II or better all of them?! Clearly still no.1 of the year. Despite all what folks wanna talk.

must point out bandy, that the one win is the only GS played...but that obviously means nothing nowadays :shrug:

Grafitini
Apr 5th, 2009, 06:52 PM
I, recall, Sam Smith, a Eurosport commentator, singing her praises, all last year, and talking about her, being, possibly, a future #1. I, never rated Sam Smith much, as a commentator. I, could be wrong, nah, that's impossible, I'm never wrong.

bandabou
Apr 5th, 2009, 10:13 PM
must point out bandy, that the one win is the only GS played...but that obviously means nothing nowadays :shrug:

:secret: