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Dodoboy.
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:12 PM
Anyone still watching the trophy ceremony knows what i mean!

:bigclap:

From the Associated Press release, here's what Venus said in the post-match interview.

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Venus Williams won her 40th singles title Saturday, defeating Virginie Razzano of France 6-4, 6-2 in the final of the Dubai Tennis Championship.

During the trophy presentation, Williams spoke about Shahar Peer, the Israeli player who was denied entry into the United Arab Emirates for the tournament because of what organizers called security concerns.

[From post-match interview] " I felt like I had to talk about her, " Williams said. " I thought it was brave of her to come here and try and play despite knowing that it is not going to be easy for her. My dad grew up in an area where if you spoke too much, it was your life. So I felt I had a small opportunity to say something where everyone will listen. "

" I am not here to rock any boat or upset people, I am just here to do things that are right, " Williams said. " And I think right things are already happening next week and right things will happen next year. "

Peer was denied entry into the country a week ago. The WTA fined organizers of the tournament a record $300,000 Friday, saying it will compensate Peer and ensure other Israeli players aren't shut out of future events.

Dini.
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:13 PM
Don't have ES :sobbing:

Can you describe what's happening please?

Miss Atomic Bomb
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:13 PM
Yes I know :hug:

Miss Atomic Bomb
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:14 PM
She said it 'It has been a wonderful event but this year it has been difficult as one of our players didnt get to play here this time, but now all that has been resolved. Lets all hope to see Shahar Peer next time in this event '

Saying that in front of the whole Dubai crowd, Dubai royalty and tennis royalty in a very very classy way is just amazing.

Queen Venus :bowdown:

Ksenia.
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:14 PM
I agree :)

kingbrh
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:14 PM
Nice touch from Venus in the speech at the end there.


Decent win for Venus really, she hasn't won many big hard court events over the last few years, so the YEC and now Dubai is surely a sign that she is getting some consistency and form back together?

Shame about the AO but she was unlucky to come up against an opponent playing the match of her life really.

Dave.
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:15 PM
Yeah well done Venus! Such a class act.

She even congratulated the doubles players too which I thought was nice :)

olympus28
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:15 PM
she has the power to talk about that, congrats Vee

Morrissey
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:16 PM
It is sad though that Venus didn't play like this at the Australian Open. I think that's what is kind of perplexing about Venus. She plays well when no one expects her to. This week I did not think she was going to win the event I thought Serena was going to. But good win for Venus and glad she won her 40th WTA tour title.

cogent53
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:16 PM
Venus is such a class act. Gracious thanks to sponsors, but mentioning the Peer situation too - important that someone did and well done to Venus. Razzano put up a good fight, decent final, but Venus has gone up even more in my estimation for making the point about Peer.

Kim's_fan_4ever
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:17 PM
She's an amazing person :worship: She did a great job mentioning Shahar. Class act! I'm liking her more and more.

Destiny
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:17 PM
Nicely Done Venus

I was telling my parents she would say that!! She soooooooo classy love her every so much

Bijoux0021
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:18 PM
That was great of Venus to mention Shahar Peer and hope Peer will be there next year playing in the tournament.

vettipooh
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:18 PM
Venus!!! :bigclap: :bounce: :hatoff: What a touch of class!! :hearts:

vwfan
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:25 PM
Yeah. I was thinking the same thing. What a great player's rep and such a classy way to handle the whole situation.

And to make that point, right there in front of the supposedly discriminatory crowd, the sponsors, and the tournament organizers: Bravo!:worship:

Infiniti2001
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:26 PM
Venus :hearts::worship:

akosiirwyn
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:27 PM
So classy :hearts:

serenafan08
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:30 PM
Way to go Venus! :hearts: That's the perfect touch for a great tournament. Venus is so classy and professional. :yeah:

Ntosake
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:31 PM
I agree-Venus is, and always has been a class act.
She wasn't just preaching to the choir either-she spoke up at the right time in front of the right people that needed to hear it, and did it in a respectful way.

jacobruiz
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:31 PM
Well done, Venus!!:worship:

Dini.
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:31 PM
CLASSY!!!

:worship:

I am so so so proud of you my queen :hearts:. AO loss is long forgotten.

Amanda
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:35 PM
Venus was awesome.....once again showing all the "haters" what it means to have class and treat everyone with dignity and respect.....making a huge statement in Dubai.....how could one not applaud her? Venus is the best rep for the WTA tour!

V-MAC
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:38 PM
I loved it and I knew Venus would say something about it too :worship:

grudpill
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:39 PM
Can someone put her speech on youtube. I wanna hear it myself.

At least they can stop whining about Venus "not taking a stand". She marches to her own drum, and it seems that they were working behind the scenes to make sure Peer did not miss the tournament again.

And it takes guts and courage to embarass your hosts by bringing up the issue in a victory speech. Venus is an exemplary leader of the WTA tour. Hopefully those clowns at ESPN will take note, and take off the article accusing Venus of notice taking a stand off the front page of the tennis section.

As usual, Venus always manages to make her critics look foolish. Doubt we'll see any apologies or retractions though. But Venus just did more for Peer than anyone else.

Libertango
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:40 PM
WOW. Venus is the epitome of class and dignity in my book.

VeeReeDavJCap81
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:42 PM
And people on this very board were criticising the sisters for not speaking up. MODED!

Amanda
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:42 PM
Can someone put her speech on youtube. I wanna hear it myself.

At least they can stop whining about Venus "not taking a stand". She marches to her own drum, and it seems that they were working behind the scenes to make sure Peer did not miss the tournament again.

And it takes guts and courage to embarass your hosts by bringing up the issue in a victory speech. Venus is an exemplary leader of the WTA tour. Hopefully those clowns at ESPN will take not, and take off the article accusing Venus of not taking a stand off the front page of the tennis section.
:bounce: The haters are once again feeling like they typical a-holes they really are! Venus is awesome:wavey:!!!!

TheAllan
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:44 PM
Another well-deserved slap in the face of the organizers. Hope they learnt their lesson.

volta
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:45 PM
She said it 'It has been a wonderful event but this year it has been difficult as one of our players didnt get to play here this time, but now all that has been resolved. Lets all hope to see Shahar Peer next time in this event '

Saying that in front of the whole Dubai crowd, Dubai royalty and tennis royalty in a very very classy way is just amazing.

Queen Venus :bowdown:
i love that :hearts:
:bowdown:

Elwin.
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:46 PM
:worship:

mboyle
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:46 PM
Aww...Venus is so classy! Seriously :hug: . I wish we could good-rep players on the board :o ! Haha.

40Love
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:47 PM
I can't wait to see the speech. #1 Classy Player of the WTA!

FoxyliciousKhat
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:49 PM
Can someone put her speech on youtube. I wanna hear it myself.

At least they can stop whining about Venus "not taking a stand". She marches to her own drum, and it seems that they were working behind the scenes to make sure Peer did not miss the tournament again.

And it takes guts and courage to embarass your hosts by bringing up the issue in a victory speech. Venus is an exemplary leader of the WTA tour. Hopefully those clowns at ESPN will take note, and take off the article accusing Venus of notice taking a stand off the front page of the tennis section.

As usual, Venus always manages to make her critics look foolish. Doubt we'll see any apologies or retractions though. But Venus just did more for Peer than anyone else.

SAY IT AGAIN!!!! I did not even bother reading the hypocritical article, I'm so tired of all this double standard.

Wish I could see the speech, my girl always makes me proud.

Foxy

Paneru
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:50 PM
I agree-Venus is, and always has been a class act.
She wasn't just preaching to the choir either-she spoke up at the right time in front of the right people that needed to hear it, and did it in a respectful way.

Well, reminds me of Arthur Ashe in a way. He took a stand on things but was criticized
for not taking the type of stance some others felt he should. He did it his own way.
Venus does it her own way.

court70
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:50 PM
Funny one would think that Lindsay or Jennifer C would have been the one to take over from Billy but here it is one of the women who has been denigrated,insulted and rediculed on the WTA is now becoming the leader of the WTA......

Kworb
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:58 PM
Gotta love Venus, one of the classiest players.

Ackms421
Feb 21st, 2009, 05:06 PM
I am extremely impressed that she did that. I wondered all week if the victor would work something into her speech, but really I didn't think it would be possible. She really put herself out there. I'm very, very, very impressed. That is amazing...

How did the crowd react when she said it? Any reaction at all?

AcesHigh
Feb 21st, 2009, 05:08 PM
True class act but no one should be surprised ;)

Vee has taken over as a great representative of the tour. Doing a better job representing the women's tour than that bozo Larry Scott.

Sammm
Feb 21st, 2009, 05:08 PM
This is why I love Venus :hug:

Wilson_07
Feb 21st, 2009, 05:13 PM
I am extremely impressed that she did that. I wondered all week if the victor would work something into her speech, but really I didn't think it would be possible. She really put herself out there. I'm very, very, very impressed. That is amazing...

How did the crowd react when she said it? Any reaction at all?

the crowd cheered very loudly after she said it. it's good when top-players use their influence and stand up for things...very classy.

alfonsojose
Feb 21st, 2009, 05:43 PM
Venus :bowdown:

The Dawntreader
Feb 21st, 2009, 05:59 PM
Such a measured statement from Venus, the ultimate diplomat on tour:worship:

You can see her doing great things with the tour when she retires;)

Or Levy
Feb 21st, 2009, 06:11 PM
Calling for the youtube clip, calling for the youtube clip...

practiceboy
Feb 21st, 2009, 06:43 PM
Don't you think this makes her statement earlier this week, about how the Tour shouldn't rush to take any action yet because the sponsors had to be appeased, seem particularly weak in hindsight? Why wasn't her first statement on the issue as strong as this one?

DimaDinosaur
Feb 21st, 2009, 06:46 PM
I'm glad she has the balls to say it. But then again will she leave this country alive :unsure:

Shane54
Feb 21st, 2009, 06:56 PM
Congrats Venus on a well played tourney and thank you for mentioning the Peer situation :)

Vlover
Feb 21st, 2009, 07:01 PM
Don't you think this makes her statement earlier this week, about how the Tour shouldn't rush to take any action yet because the sponsors had to be appeased, seem particularly weak in hindsight? Why wasn't her first statement on the issue as strong as this one?
Venus is under no obligation to be the spoke person for the WTA or the tennis establishment. She went there as an individual player like everyone else and should not be expected to solve the political problems of the middle east that have been going on for centuries. If situation was reversed, I have no doubt that all other players wouldn't even bat an eye lid about it. The only people who would care are the Williams family and their supporters. Venus said what she had to say so give her a rest and let the WTA who are being paid to sort this out.

bobbynorwich
Feb 21st, 2009, 07:10 PM
She said it 'It has been a wonderful event but this year it has been difficult as one of our players didn't get to play here this time, but now all that has been resolved. Let's all hope to see Shahar Peer next time in this event '

Saying that in front of the whole Dubai crowd, Dubai royalty and tennis royalty in a very very classy way is just amazing.

Queen Venus :bowdown:

Well done, Venus. :clap2:

eugreene2
Feb 21st, 2009, 07:10 PM
Venus - you def got balls. Now get outta there alive please lol

practiceboy
Feb 21st, 2009, 07:19 PM
Venus is under no obligation to be the spoke person for the WTA or the tennis establishment. She went there as an individual player like everyone else and should not be expected to solve the political problems of the middle east that have been going on for centuries. If situation was reversed, I have no doubt that all other players wouldn't even bat an eye lid about it. The only people who would care are the Williams family and their supporters. Venus said what she had to say so give her a rest and let the WTA who are being paid to sort this out.

I didn't say that she was under any obligation. I just said that her making this statement now makes her earlier statement, which was very different in tone than the statement she made today, look particularly weak. I don't think you can disagree that the two statements were very different in nature and that the first statement was much weaker than her statement today.

partbrit
Feb 21st, 2009, 07:25 PM
Venus - you def got balls.

No--courage is not a male quality.

Getting back to the subject--a bigger round of applause for Andy Roddick.

Dave.
Feb 21st, 2009, 07:33 PM
Funny one would think that Lindsay or Jennifer C would have been the one to take over from Billy but here it is one of the women who has been denigrated,insulted and rediculed on the WTA is now becoming the leader of the WTA......

Actually Lindsay was the leader for a while and was an ideal ambassador for the game.

There's no need to bring up others just to make Venus look better/worse. They are both class acts.

Sylvester
Feb 21st, 2009, 07:34 PM
Vee :hug:

Now get out of Dubai fast! :bolt:

A shame Serena isn't as classy as her sister (not even when she loses to her own sister), but I guess we can't have it all.

Vee for WTA President :hug:

Vlover
Feb 21st, 2009, 07:39 PM
I just said that her making this statement now makes her earlier statement, which was very different in tone than the statement she made today, look particularly weak.
She was just being pragmatic under the circumstances. These political issues are very sensitive and goes to a larger issue than just tennis therefore I think Venus very diplomatic and classy in handling the situation. It is the problem of the organizers and WTA not Venus. They are the ones who created the mess so let them deal with it.

volta
Feb 21st, 2009, 07:44 PM
Vee :hug:

Now get out of Dubai fast! :bolt:

A shame Serena isn't as classy as her sister (not even when she loses to her own sister), but I guess we can't have it all.

Vee for WTA President :hug:

it's a shame that Mauresmo wasn't as classy at the net when she lost to Serena at the 04 YEC ... :rolleyes:

every player is different no need to take cheap shots at other players and taint this Venus support with petty comments towards someone else

FORZA SARITA
Feb 21st, 2009, 07:45 PM
classy Queen Venus :worship:

bobbynorwich
Feb 21st, 2009, 07:47 PM
From the Associated Press release, here's what Venus said in the post-match interview.

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Venus Williams won her 40th singles title Saturday, defeating Virginie Razzano of France 6-4, 6-2 in the final of the Dubai Tennis Championship.

During the trophy presentation, Williams spoke about Shahar Peer, the Israeli player who was denied entry into the United Arab Emirates for the tournament because of what organizers called security concerns.

[From post-match interview] " I felt like I had to talk about her, " Williams said. " I thought it was brave of her to come here and try and play despite knowing that it is not going to be easy for her. My dad grew up in an area where if you spoke too much, it was your life. So I felt I had a small opportunity to say something where everyone will listen. "

" I am not here to rock any boat or upset people, I am just here to do things that are right, " Williams said. " And I think right things are already happening next week and right things will happen next year. "

Peer was denied entry into the country a week ago. The WTA fined organizers of the tournament a record $300,000 Friday, saying it will compensate Peer and ensure other Israeli players aren't shut out of future events.

Destiny
Feb 21st, 2009, 08:08 PM
Love her :hug:

kalisita
Feb 21st, 2009, 08:28 PM
Can someone put her speech on youtube. I wanna hear it myself.

At least they can stop whining about Venus "not taking a stand". She marches to her own drum, and it seems that they were working behind the scenes to make sure Peer did not miss the tournament again.

And it takes guts and courage to embarass your hosts by bringing up the issue in a victory speech. Venus is an exemplary leader of the WTA tour. Hopefully those clowns at ESPN will take note, and take off the article accusing Venus of notice taking a stand off the front page of the tennis section.

As usual, Venus always manages to make her critics look foolish. Doubt we'll see any apologies or retractions though. But Venus just did more for Peer than anyone else.

Venus didn't make anyone who criticized her look foolish. I give her a lot of credit for saying something in her speach, but she didn't "take a stand." This issue has basically been resolved thanks to the ATP frankly. It's easy to say something is wrong when even the tournament organizers have said they'll do everything in their power to make sure it doesn't happen again.

young_gunner913
Feb 21st, 2009, 08:29 PM
Class act Venus :hearts::worship:

scoobsuk
Feb 21st, 2009, 08:30 PM
Tons of respect to Venus for doing that. When she has the microphone and the biggest audience watching her, she makes the point eloquently and non-confrontationally.

That's using your platform properly.

Dodoboy.
Feb 21st, 2009, 08:31 PM
I'm glad she has the balls to say it. But then again will she leave this country alive :unsure:

Venus - you def got balls. Now get outta there alive please lol

Please don't scare me guys! :crying2:

Dodoboy.
Feb 21st, 2009, 08:33 PM
Post Match interview added to 1st post

:bigclap:

VeeReeDavJCap81
Feb 21st, 2009, 08:35 PM
Venus didn't make anyone who criticized her look foolish. I give her a lot of credit for saying something in her speach, but she didn't "take a stand." This issue has basically been resolved thanks to the ATP frankly. It's easy to say something is wrong when even the tournament organizers have issued a statement saying it won't happen again.

She did make them look foolish. The winner of the tournament slyly speaking out against how they discriminated against Peer and having the crowd cheer is a huge smack in the face.

Ciarán
Feb 21st, 2009, 08:46 PM
wow. I really do love everything about Venus :inlove:

kalisita
Feb 21st, 2009, 08:50 PM
She did make them look foolish. The winner of the tournament slyly speaking out against how they discriminated against Peer and having the crowd cheer is a huge smack in the face.

I do think she deserves credit for saying anything about it in the ceremony, but I disagree that by doing so she was "taking a stand." Taking a stand is a protest. When the issue was still fresh and it looked like Ram's visa may also be denied, she basically said "it's difficult and shouldn't have happened, but the sponsors..."

The way the WTA as a whole handled the situation was very poor IMO. They basically sat back and let the ATP do the heavy lifting. Let the men's tour come in and "rescue" the women's tour from the issue.

volta
Feb 21st, 2009, 08:53 PM
Please don't scare me guys! :crying2:

omg for a minute i thought that u were saying "Please don't scare me guys" to Venus literally having balls :haha: :haha: :help:
I do think she deserves credit for saying anything about it in the ceremony, but I disagree that by doing so she was "taking a stand." Taking a stand is a protest. When the issue was still fresh and it looked like Ram's visa may also be denied, she basically said "it's difficult and shouldn't have happened, but the sponsors..."

The way the WTA as a whole handled the situation was very poor IMO. They basically sat back and let the ATP do the heavy lifting. Let the men's tour come in and "rescue" the women's tour from the issue.

and what exactly did the ATP do ?! other then Roddick supposed withdraw cuz of Shahar?! (i'm honestly asking not just throwing some sarcasm)

Shahar herself said that she didn't want the tournament to stop and didn't want other players to suffer from this

mauresmofan
Feb 21st, 2009, 09:06 PM
Venus is such a natural leader for the WTA and I'm so glad she said it because it needed to be said. You could see all the officals trying to avoid it with their long winded speeches but Venus just got the microphone and told it like it is. Well done!

CrossCourt~Rally
Feb 21st, 2009, 09:08 PM
:clap2: >>> VENUS <<< :clap2:

A Magicman
Feb 21st, 2009, 09:09 PM
Thank you Venus Williams.

Dodoboy.
Feb 21st, 2009, 09:18 PM
omg for a minute i thought that u were saying "Please don't scare me guys" to Venus literally having balls :haha: :haha: :help:


and what exactly did the ATP do ?! other then Roddick supposed withdraw cuz of Shahar?! (i'm honestly asking not just throwing some sarcasm)

Shahar herself said that she didn't want the tournament to stop and didn't want other players to suffer from this

:help::help::help::haha:

tard~tard
Feb 21st, 2009, 09:33 PM
Don't you think this makes her statement earlier this week, about how the Tour shouldn't rush to take any action yet because the sponsors had to be appeased, seem particularly weak in hindsight? Why wasn't her first statement on the issue as strong as this one?

It's quite refreshing to see, that at least one poster on this
forum is not totaly blinded by perception.

To answer your question, it's quite simple : first we make sure that
our pockets are filled with loads of money, me myself and I, and only
then we'll make an attempt at pretending that we're human beings
with high moral standards. Which obviously, we are not.

Marionated
Feb 21st, 2009, 09:44 PM
:help::help::help::haha:

:spit: :spit:

Dodoboy.
Feb 21st, 2009, 09:45 PM
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I didn't want to start another thread but this is a great video! With Vee talking about her shots and ish.

Soo cute!

Lucemferre
Feb 21st, 2009, 09:46 PM
It's quite refreshing to see, that at least one poster on this
forum is not totaly blinded by perception.

To answer your question, it's quite simple : first we make sure that
our pockets are filled with loads of money, me myself and I, and only
then we'll make an attempt at pretending that we're human beings
with high moral standards. Which obviously, we are not.

As if she needs money :weirdo:

ryan09
Feb 21st, 2009, 10:03 PM
As if she needs money :weirdo:

Obviously you do not. Go, Venus!!

Sylvester
Feb 21st, 2009, 10:08 PM
it's a shame that Mauresmo wasn't as classy at the net when she lost to Serena at the 04 YEC ... :rolleyes:

every player is different no need to take cheap shots at other players and taint this Venus support with petty comments towards someone else

Last time I checked, Serena isn't Mauresmo's sister :unsure:

Golovinjured.
Feb 21st, 2009, 10:15 PM
Venus :inlove:

Robert-KimClijst
Feb 21st, 2009, 10:21 PM
That was a class act from Venus. :) Good for her.

volta
Feb 21st, 2009, 10:22 PM
Last time I checked, Serena isn't Mauresmo's sister :unsure:

oh my bad, didn't know that "class" was only worth it when thrown (or not) against ur siblings my bad , my bad :crying2:

Vee :hug:

Now get out of Dubai fast! :bolt:

A shame Serena isn't as classy as her sister (not even when she loses to her own sister), but I guess we can't have it all.

Vee for WTA President :hug:

só para não te esqueceres o que foi dito ...

was it me or u were talking in general and not only about her handshake to her sister (wich u only brought up to reinforce ur statement )? :scratch: bah it's probably just me

servenrichie
Feb 21st, 2009, 10:27 PM
I do think she deserves credit for saying anything about it in the ceremony, but I disagree that by doing so she was "taking a stand." Taking a stand is a protest. When the issue was still fresh and it looked like Ram's visa may also be denied, she basically said "it's difficult and shouldn't have happened, but the sponsors..."

The way the WTA as a whole handled the situation was very poor IMO. They basically sat back and let the ATP do the heavy lifting. Let the men's tour come in and "rescue" the women's tour from the issue.
Oh common fuck off with these expectations from Venus and Serena (by the way thanks for bringing me out of the moratorium I imposed on myself in typing on this forum), apparently, many idiots keep crawling out everyday.

Has any tennis player ever taken a stand on the hash treatment the Williams family received in IW? Any? It was unprecented, uncalled for and never happened before. Anybody ever stood up for them or criticised even the tournament organisers for what they could or could not do.
AND where was the outcry from good people like you?

So, it is chutpaz for anybody asking them to take a stand for anybody on the circuit. Really:rolleyes:

MisterMan
Feb 21st, 2009, 10:29 PM
Serena wouldn't have said a word. She would be like "Who's Peer?"

BlameSerena
Feb 21st, 2009, 10:35 PM
Serena wouldn't have said a word. She would be like "Who's Peer?"

That is irrelevant as Serena didn't win here and didn't give a speech and as to what she would have said, you nor anyone else knows.

Anyway...glad Vee said what she did.

V's a star
Feb 21st, 2009, 10:35 PM
Serena wouldn't have said a word. She would be like "Who's Peer?"

:haha: true

volta
Feb 21st, 2009, 10:36 PM
Serena wouldn't have said a word. She would be like "Who's Peer?"
ok then Miss Cleo , can u read my future next?

she is irrelevant to this topic. you all go around talking about class but your the same ones that instead of rejubilanting with joy with what The Goddess said are going around turning her behaviour into an opportunity to unleash some more venom and petty comments towards Ree...
can we say pot.kettle. ...

kwilliams
Feb 21st, 2009, 10:37 PM
:worship: Venus :worship:

She's just amazing and she deserved to win here!

bobbynorwich
Feb 21st, 2009, 11:12 PM
The way the WTA as a whole handled the situation was very poor IMO. They basically sat back and let the ATP do the heavy lifting. Let the men's tour come in and "rescue" the women's tour from the issue.

It is true that the men's tournament started a week after the women's, so the ATP had time to pressure the emirates to admit Israeli doubles player Andy Ram.

However, it was the WTA that came out with a strong set of sanctions and contract conditions that put the screws to the sheikhs. The emirates are required to give $248,000 to the WTA which Shahar Peer gets to donate to the charity of her choice. They have to give Peer $44,000 and her doubles partner $8000. They must give Peer a wild card for Dubai next year regardless of her ranking. They must post a $2M bond that goes to the WTA if the tourney ever refuses to admit a qualified player. And they must agree to the visa for any qualified Israeli player at least 8 weeks before the start of the tournament.

Maybe the money is chump change for the emirates --- who are the chairmen of the Dubai tournament --- but all the sanctions in total say, "We don't trust you UAE," "Do it our way or we're out of here," and "you will make it up to Peer." That's a big slap in the face for the sheikhs.

This is the WTA doing its own heavy lifting, not relying on the ATP.

.

Sam L
Feb 21st, 2009, 11:23 PM
Venus is a class act. Congrats on the win babe! :)

spartanfan
Feb 21st, 2009, 11:48 PM
It is true that the men's tournament started a week after the women's, so the ATP had time to pressure the emirates to admit Israeli doubles player Andy Ram.

However, it was the WTA that came out with a strong set of sanctions and contract conditions that put the screws to the sheikhs. The emirates are required to give $248,000 to the WTA which Shahar Peer gets to donate to the charity of her choice. They have to give Peer $44,000 and her doubles partner $8000. They must give Peer a wild card for Dubai next year regardless of her ranking. They must post a $2M bond that goes to the WTA if the tourney ever refuses to admit a qualified player. And they must agree to the visa for any qualified Israeli player at least 8 weeks before the start of the tournament.

Maybe the money is chump change for the emirates --- who are the chairmen of the Dubai tournament --- but all the sanctions in total say, "We don't trust you UAE," "Do it our way or we're out of here," and "you will make it up to Peer." That's a big slap in the face for the sheikhs.

This is the WTA doing its own heavy lifting, not relying on the ATP.

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Wow I didn't know the WTA did all that. It wasn't very well publicised. It makes things really interesting for next year. But I also think players will boycott and leave the tournament next year if Peer is denied once again.

frenchie
Feb 21st, 2009, 11:54 PM
WOW
That's very courageous and nice from Venus

She's really "the voice of WTA"

flyingmachine
Feb 22nd, 2009, 12:34 AM
WOW
That's very courageous and nice from Venus

She's really "the voice of WTA"

Indeed :worship: I have even more respect towards Venus after this speech.

Radix2
Feb 22nd, 2009, 01:55 AM
I generally agree with Venus but I think her comments about Peer was inappropriate. Not called for at all.

debopero
Feb 22nd, 2009, 01:56 AM
^ y not?

tennisbum79
Feb 22nd, 2009, 02:17 AM
My dad grew up in an area where if you spoke too much, it was your life.

How eloquent was that? She is her father daughter.
Venus Dad is not much older than most posters fathers here, and I am sure what he has experienced is known by your parents or grand parents.

So before you arrogantly dismiss him as seing racism where there is none, perhaps you could ask your parents to give you some background how the races grew up.
Having said that, I believethe IW decision made by the familyt is rooted in Richard past experiences. Richard was particularly disturbed by the press attempt to down play the incident. He confronted MJF and Pam Shriver during a livecamera interview.

The bottom line is, he does not want, knowingly, to put his daughters through some of the stuff he has gone through himself. That would be abdicating his responsabilyt as a father.
Any father, under the same circumstances would the do the same.

HRHoliviasmith
Feb 22nd, 2009, 02:22 AM
Oh common fuck off with these expectations from Venus and Serena (by the way thanks for bringing me out of the moratorium I imposed on myself in typing on this forum), apparently, many idiots keep crawling out everyday.

Has any tennis player ever taken a stand on the hash treatment the Williams family received in IW? Any? It was unprecented, uncalled for and never happened before. Anybody ever stood up for them or criticised even the tournament organisers for what they could or could not do.
AND where was the outcry from good people like you?

So, it is chutpaz for anybody asking them to take a stand for anybody on the circuit. Really:rolleyes:

excellent post! :worship:

LeonHart
Feb 22nd, 2009, 04:47 AM
That's very classy of Venus. Thumbs up for her :D

bobbynorwich
Feb 22nd, 2009, 06:09 AM
:worship: Venus :worship:

She's just amazing and she deserved to win here!

She's the best, on and off the court! :yippee:V:yippee:V:yippee:V:yippee:V:yippee:

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pollison
Feb 22nd, 2009, 06:10 AM
well done venus

Kampi
Feb 22nd, 2009, 06:25 AM
Venus, you are really awesome and you will have my full respect. The whole scene must be proud fo you.:worship::kiss::worship:

AnywhereButHome
Feb 22nd, 2009, 06:39 AM
:kiss:VENUS:kiss:

Kunal
Feb 22nd, 2009, 08:33 AM
really good to hear that

gmak
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:36 AM
what an amazing woman :worship: :yeah:

Matt01
Feb 22nd, 2009, 10:44 AM
I generally agree with Venus but I think her comments about Peer was inappropriate. Not called for at all.


What comments? :confused:

bobbynorwich
Feb 22nd, 2009, 01:14 PM
What comments? :confused:

I think this refers to Venus' comments during awards ceremony and post-match interview, as reported below by AFP news service.

DUBAI (AFP) — Venus Williams raced to her 40th career crown on Saturday, but ensured that the raging Shahar Peer controversy was not forgotten during her Dubai Open title celebrations.

Williams told a packed crowd that it was " a shame that one of our players couldn't be here ", in a direct reference to the United Arab Emirates' widely-condemned decision to refuse to grant Israeli player Peer a visa.

" I thought she had to be mentioned and I felt I was going to, whether anyone else did or not, " said Wimbledon champion Williams, when it was remarked that she was the only one at the prize-giving ceremony to recall what had happened.

" I had the opportunity because I had the microphone. I thought how brave she (Peer) was to come over here, to play in Doha (last year), and suddenly here not (allowed to).

" I thought of Althea Gibson who was excluded," she continued referring to the woman who overcame discrimination and exclusion to become Wimbledon's first black champion in 1957.

" She played and I thought of people who stood up and played with her when no-one else would. My dad grew up in a place where if you spoke too much, it was your life. I had a small opportunity to say something where everyone would listen. It also made me think of all the people who gave something for me to be here. I am not hear to rock the boat or upset anyone - I'm just here to try to do what's right, to represent what's right, and I think the right things will happen next week on the men's tour. I think a lot of that was because of what Shahar went through, because everyone cared. I feel confident everyone will have the opportunity to play next year. If that wasn't the case then we would evaluate but everyone has had the opportunity to do the right thing," she said referring to the visa given to Andy Ram, another Israeli to play in the men's ATP event here next week.

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xcrtbckhnd
Feb 22nd, 2009, 02:17 PM
Putting aside her tremendous tennis talent, Venus is such an amazing person. Total class act all the way, all the time. I really have a ton of respect and admiration for her off and on the courts. It would be great to see her finally stay healthy and put together a tremendous season. A true ambassador for the sport! Love you V!

friendsita
Feb 23rd, 2009, 11:45 AM
so classy, so Venus

Tennisation
Feb 24th, 2009, 01:27 AM
Aww...Venus is so classy! Seriously :hug: . I wish we could good-rep players on the board :o ! Haha.Oh dear! If that's the case, Serena would be banned from the board :o:tape:

Sylvester
Mar 1st, 2009, 10:09 PM
oh my bad, didn't know that "class" was only worth it when thrown (or not) against ur siblings my bad , my bad :crying2:



só para não te esqueceres o que foi dito ...

was it me or u were talking in general and not only about her handshake to her sister (wich u only brought up to reinforce ur statement )? :scratch: bah it's probably just me

I'm sorry to push this topic, but it's just to try to make some people understand for what I've said:

As much as you have to be polite with everybody by shaking hands, it's obvious that you are expect to have a warmer handshake with your sister than with any other opponent for obvious reasons.

For the people calling me racist, considering that I have a white father and a black mother, it's kinda hard for me to be a racist, no? :lol:

ladydiana
Mar 1st, 2009, 10:46 PM
Venus is in a class all by herself.
And I like the fact that she didn't just rush to say something right away.
Many times it's prudent to not only choose ones words, but also the best venue to make a statement.
The timing was perfect for her to get her point across without insulting anyone.
What a smart diplomat Venus is, and she's earned the right to speak in public because she's the only one who fought behind closed doors for the players and the wta. Venus is the one who was the major catalist in getting equal pay for women at Wimbledon, etc.
All of the others who spoke out did it to get the media attention, but a lot of those same players never spoke up when Venus was being treated like sh-it when she came on board. Venus really was treated badly because Serena wasn't playing as much and she was the older sister. Both Serena and Venus has been through a lot and now everyone wants them to speak out when something is wrong.
Andy Roddick never spoke out in defense when Venus and Serena was being treated unfairly. Pete Sampras, Andrea Agassi, Lindsey Davenport and not of the other professional women tennis players didn't say ONE WORD.
However, I'm glad Venus said something about Sahar Peer because she's a nice young woman and she's worked hard and there are only 2 Israeli women who are on the wta.