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debby
Feb 18th, 2009, 03:06 PM
It seems she lost her movement and her accuracy. :help: And she is not even injured.
Where is the JJ from 2007 ? From the end of 2008 ?

I have the feeling Jelena doesn't care anymore, just look at her when Bartoli beat her. And right now, she is transparent.

Where is the drama? :help:

What a miss on her first breakpoint ! :sobbing: and on her second bp again...

Lighter
Feb 18th, 2009, 03:32 PM
I saw her playing in Paris vs Amélie. Her serve, especially her 2nd serve is really crappy. And when she faces retrievers like Bartoli or Mauresmo, she's suffering. And her game isn't as deep as last year.

Vs Kanepi, she's still in the business.

Izzie.
Feb 18th, 2009, 03:33 PM
I miss the drama, the smiles...I really don't know what is wrong with her :/

markdelaney
Feb 18th, 2009, 03:33 PM
Maybe she's just got as high as she can and the only way is down ?

Nalla
Feb 18th, 2009, 03:35 PM
I hope she will somehow get out of this .. First set, and the begining of secong was.. auful...

LeRoy.
Feb 18th, 2009, 03:37 PM
she never was very good to start with. :shrug:

Nalla
Feb 18th, 2009, 03:42 PM
JJ..JJ.. :sobbing::sobbing: Such an easy draw... Damn...

debby
Feb 18th, 2009, 03:43 PM
she never was very good to start with. :shrug:

:rolleyes: Did you watch tennis in 2007 & 2008 ? Or even at the US Open 2006.

Donny
Feb 18th, 2009, 03:44 PM
Maybe the extra bulk is slowing her down? Being half a step slower than you're used to will mess up your game.

InsideOut.
Feb 18th, 2009, 03:45 PM
I saw her playing in Paris vs Amélie. Her serve, especially her 2nd serve is really crappy. And when she faces retrievers like Bartoli or Mauresmo, she's suffering. And her game isn't as deep as last year.

Vs Kanepi, she's still in the business.

Um. Bartoli is a retriever? :lol:

But I saw her in Hong Kong and she was going for way too much all the time; didn't try to set up the points like she did so well at the end of 2008. Her crosscourt forehands back then and the incredible backhand helped her a lot. Her 2nd serve has gone back to what it was two years ago...almost a drop shot... And her bulking up didn't help and now she is slower than ever.

Three tournaments this year and only 1 quarterfinal reached. That is so unlike JJ. Ana has more QFs than her this year :tape:

KitinovRules
Feb 18th, 2009, 03:46 PM
Overrated player.
The weakestt n.1 in tennis history.

She misses her so called injuries, though.

volta
Feb 18th, 2009, 03:47 PM
i thought that losing the #1 would take off the pressure of her shoulders and that she would start to play better again but that hasn't been the case.

she doesn't seem happy anymore, she isn't smiling it's like she isn't enjoying it anymore :sad:

Demska
Feb 18th, 2009, 03:47 PM
what goes up......

freeyourstyle
Feb 18th, 2009, 03:50 PM
Overrated player.
The weakestt n.1 in tennis history.

She misses her so called injuries, though.


i think u havent seen her in 2007 + 2008, if you had u wouldnt talk bullshit ;)

frenchie
Feb 18th, 2009, 03:51 PM
Like Chakvetadze she tried to change her game by adding more strenghs and power

And they both obviously failed

InsideOut.
Feb 18th, 2009, 03:54 PM
i thought that losing the #1 would take off the pressure of her shoulders and that she would start to play better again but that hasn't been the case.

she doesn't seem happy anymore, she isn't smiling it's like she isn't enjoying it anymore :sad:

She's going through the same process as Ana did. It just runs in Serbian blood I guess. :sad:

LDF
Feb 18th, 2009, 03:56 PM
The joy in her tennis seems to have gone, at the moment. Combine that with the fact that she's 'adjusting to her new body and game', and we get an errant, frustrated Jankovic. I hope she turns things around soon...

volta
Feb 18th, 2009, 03:58 PM
She's going through the same process as Ana did. It just runs in Serbian blood I guess. :sad:

it's like a curse :o i hate to see her play with like this, she's just not enjoying it and when that happens ... :sad:

Roookie
Feb 18th, 2009, 04:01 PM
I miss the smiles too. JJ :hug:

Thkmra
Feb 18th, 2009, 04:02 PM
she never was very good to start with. :shrug:

Exactly!! Not to underscore what she accomplished, or her results, but plain, and ismple she isn't a great player.

And:o to the people wanting the drama back:rolleyes: Win on your own merits, and skills, not theatrics, over-dramatazations, and spectacles:help:, or especially in her case, don't win at all!!

Optima
Feb 18th, 2009, 04:08 PM
Exactly!! Not to underscore what she accomplished, or her results, but plain, and ismple she isn't a great player.


Quit spewing BS.

Ciarán
Feb 18th, 2009, 04:08 PM
You are right about not caring Debby. But she needs to focus on tennis, because she has nothing to fall back on. She aint no Sharapova :tape:

CoolDude7
Feb 18th, 2009, 04:11 PM
It's only natural she would relax a little after becoming the number 1 player. She is giving her mind a break, nothing wrong with that. You don't have to be a work horse 24/7.

tonythetiger
Feb 18th, 2009, 04:15 PM
It's called pressure and mental fatique. If she doesn't find a balance between tennis and a life outside of it, the pressure will eat her alive like it did Justine and Kim. Jelena still plays way too much tennis IMO.

pattyclijsters
Feb 18th, 2009, 04:21 PM
I saw her playing in Paris and I am missing the smiles, too :( and I noticed that there is not as consistent length in her groundstrokes as there used to be.

Bijoux0021
Feb 18th, 2009, 04:38 PM
All JJ and hers fans have had to rely on in the last couple of years was her "consistency." To them that justified everything, including her reaching the #1 ranking without winning a Slam. What's going to happen if she doesn't have her consistency back very soon?

AcesHigh
Feb 18th, 2009, 04:42 PM
Whatever is wrong.. i hope she gets it together. Maybe it was the change in her body and the added pressure she's facing.

Either way, teh tour is such a mess right now. Maybe she should take a break and come back in a month or two.

Valanga
Feb 18th, 2009, 04:43 PM
2 words - DUMP ANTA.

Mashafaaaaan
Feb 18th, 2009, 04:46 PM
Whatever is wrong.. i hope she gets it together. Maybe it was the change in her body and the added pressure she's facing.

Either way, teh tour is such a mess right now. Maybe she should take a break and come back in a month or two.

If all girls who are in a slump should take a break, there would be nobody.

pav
Feb 18th, 2009, 04:51 PM
Could we say lately it is a case of "Newbody defeated by Nobody" too often lately( not calling the other players nobodies really, just fits with the new body)

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Feb 18th, 2009, 04:53 PM
Nothing , she got the big contract with ANTA . Now it is relax time

John.
Feb 18th, 2009, 05:13 PM
I think a lot of it's to do with her loss at the Australian Open.

I know she wasn't playing that great there either, but I really think that she was as confident of a winning her first slam there, as she had ever been.

The loss to Bartoli was a real blow to her, and maybe it's got her thinking that her chances of ever winning a major, are getting slimmer :shrug:

Louis Cyphre
Feb 18th, 2009, 05:21 PM
Umpires ruin the matches ? Or... wait ... she is injured , that`s why :devil:

Andrew Laeddis
Feb 18th, 2009, 05:34 PM
Do you mean tennis wise or in general?

choi15
Feb 18th, 2009, 06:14 PM
It's called the "Bartoli effect..." look what happened to Justine :devil:

doni1212
Feb 18th, 2009, 06:48 PM
what goes up......

:rolls:

It's called the "Bartoli effect..." look what happened to Justine :devil:

:lol:

RenaSlam.
Feb 18th, 2009, 06:49 PM
Players have figured out how to play her.

She's probably putting too much pressure on herself, too.

2Black
Feb 18th, 2009, 06:51 PM
This has been discussed a thousand times ... Jelena has to HOPE she doesn't run into any of the top power players who are on their games or it's God Bless You, Good Night!!!

ChriS.
Feb 18th, 2009, 07:00 PM
I miss the smiles too. JJ :hug:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1UQ7tOcc5k

DA FOREHAND
Feb 18th, 2009, 07:11 PM
Maybe the extra bulk is slowing her down? Being half a step slower than you're used to will mess up your game.

JJ, Olga Trukliftova the Ukrainian powerlifer called, she wants her body back.

I hope JJ hasn't "Chang'd" herself right out of contention for titles and slams. Power corrupts.

At least we know she won't up and quit. She's been in worse slump than this before, she will turn it around.

spartanfan
Feb 18th, 2009, 07:11 PM
I think its just natural life of a tennis player. Just periods of up and down play. I think to be an elite top player you have to be so dedicated and focused mentally to play top ball and I would imagine that after a while it just takes a toll on you mentally and physically.

GeeTee
Feb 18th, 2009, 07:15 PM
Maybe JJ shoulda take a leaf out of Henin's book and retired while she was at #1....

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 18th, 2009, 07:25 PM
It's called the "Bartoli effect..." look what happened to Justine :devil:

Justine won Canadian Open, US Open, Stuttgart, Zurich and YEC having defeated Jankovic, Serena, Venus, Kuznetsova, Ivanovic and Sharapova :shrug:

SAEKeithSerena
Feb 18th, 2009, 07:27 PM
she has to get used to her muscles, remember?

RFSTB
Feb 18th, 2009, 07:39 PM
Must be the new boyfriend...

shoparound
Feb 18th, 2009, 08:58 PM
Overrated player.
The weakestt n.1 in tennis history.

She misses her so called injuries, though.

That goes to Ana Ivanovic, who could barely win a match after winning #1.

MarieC
Feb 18th, 2009, 09:44 PM
JJ just seems like a completely different person on court compared to the player she was last season. She seems so unhappy out there!

crazillo
Feb 18th, 2009, 09:50 PM
She tried to bulk up too much I think. It's against her natural game. She is so much slower espacially and will never be able to outhit everyone. So getting stronger might prove to be a mistake for Jelena.

The Dawntreader
Feb 18th, 2009, 09:56 PM
She seems to have lost a lot of her flexibility, and does not appear to be as supple as she once was. She almost seems out of the point as soon as she's remotely put on the defensive nowadays. Very strange.

I dont think this new physique of hers is entirely beneficial, especially considering her game was built on dilligence and great control. Trying to conform to the power game, which is rather alien to her way of thinking, coould prove disastrous.

jjcrew#1
Feb 18th, 2009, 10:16 PM
she never was very good to start with. :shrug:

Yeah ok thats why she was number one? :fiery:

jjcrew#1
Feb 18th, 2009, 10:19 PM
Like Chakvetadze she tried to change her game by adding more strenghs and power

And they both obviously failed

Dang its been like 3 tournaments and you are already counting her down and out?
Venus lost in the second round at the AO and i still hear people saying that she is going to win the tournament! you make no sense! chaky has been in a slump for almost a year now!

partbrit
Feb 18th, 2009, 11:01 PM
she never was very good to start with.

There must be some other Jelena Jankovic I've never seen.

fufuqifuqishahah
Feb 19th, 2009, 01:06 AM
She's basically trying to do with Justine did but she can't.

She should go back to her wonderful JJ super defensive self

Inger67
Feb 19th, 2009, 01:18 AM
Why is everyone so worried? JJ said it herself it's how you finish the year at #1 not how you start!

:haha:

Dawn Marie
Feb 19th, 2009, 01:19 AM
This is an easy question.

You see, Jelena J. plays too much tennis. It's finally catching up with her. She also was told to do some foolish moves by adding weight mass. This was retarded and stupid of her to do. She'll be slower this year and fatigued d/t to playing way to much tennis last year. Thank god though she's isn't injured. YET.
Anyway, her management was trying to have her add some muscle to get her to the next level. I don't know what they were thinking cause all she had to do was focus on STAMINA not MUSCLE. The #1 focus for her though out of anything was for her to work on her SERVE! Hello! her serve. Remember that coaches??
Jelena Jankovic is going down.

Junzilla69
Feb 19th, 2009, 01:21 AM
I think Jankovic is pulling an Ivanovic. After hitting #1, it's all downhill.

doni1212
Feb 19th, 2009, 02:20 AM
Why is everyone so worried? JJ said it herself it's how you finish the year at #1 not how you start!

:haha:

:rolls: :worship:

Midnight_Robber
Feb 19th, 2009, 04:14 AM
It's the bulk. Justine bulked up but remember that she only really started to dominate once she actually LOST some of the bulk. (At one stage Justine was so bulky thta I marvelled that she could move.) The extra muscle adds nothing to Jelena's game since she's not serving significantly harder or hitting her groundies with any more power than she used to, unlike Justine. Yet she's slowed down and lost her flexibility and timing off the ground so it seems to me as if the changes have had a corrosive effect. So it's been a lose-lose situation so far.

The other problem is that her old approach of going out and enjoying the match (come what may) went out the window once she became number one and got a mild case of diva-itus. Before she became number 1, Jelena didn't take her self nearly as seriously as the "Former number 1, Newbody" does. (Once upon a time she would never have given that Serena-style presser that she gave after losing Kanepi.) Her relaxed, sunny, 'do-my-best' approach actually worked better for her because she took the pressure off herself and enjoyed the game and actually accepted the strengths and weaknesses of her style of play, instead of desperatley trying to become the type of player that she's not...

It also ensured that she had a good head on her shoulders. She didn't let victory go ot her head, but was philosophical and positive enough not to be crushed by defeat.

I don't know if she is definitively 'going down', but she's certainly had a dip.

tennisbum79
Feb 19th, 2009, 04:33 AM
Maybe the extra bulk is slowing her down? Being half a step slower than you're used to will mess up your game.
It looks like the law of unintended consequences is playing a trick on her.

She has time to redial and go back to her normal, natural body mass before RG.

StZox
Feb 19th, 2009, 04:34 AM
For those who say she is an overrated player, watch her matches from the second half of 2008!
A top notch performance!
plus always gives the best performance against the best players.
I think that if there hadn't been for Jelena in 2008, there would be no high-quality matches!

tennisbum79
Feb 19th, 2009, 04:38 AM
JJ just seems like a completely different person on court compared to the player she was last season. She seems so unhappy out there!
It could be psychological. Who knows.

Substancial changes to body can affect the personality of the athlete: mood, energy, etc..

cehowardrx7
Feb 19th, 2009, 01:13 PM
I miss the drama, the smiles...I really don't know what is wrong with her :/

Let me tell ya what it is!! It is all about HEART.. True Champions have HEART, lots of it. With HEART, you never give up, you reach down and find something in you when you thought it was all gone. You never cease fighting. Anybody can have talent, and hit the ball good.. True champions have heart. IMO, Jankovic is low on heart!

bobbynorwich
Mar 1st, 2009, 04:10 PM
:sad: Everything. :sad:

manutoo
Mar 1st, 2009, 04:40 PM
She's played less tournaments then Serena :eek:

Optima
Mar 1st, 2009, 04:58 PM
Let me tell ya what it is!! It is all about HEART.. True Champions have HEART, lots of it. With HEART, you never give up, you reach down and find something in you when you thought it was all gone. You never cease fighting. Anybody can have talent, and hit the ball good.. True champions have heart. IMO, Jankovic is low on heart!

So...by your definition only slam champions have heart, right? Almost every girl out there has heart.

Charlieflip
Mar 1st, 2009, 05:02 PM
Lol guys. First off; nobody can stay on top form forever. Not even frikkin federer. Everybody has ups and downs. Jelena is obiously going through a minor down. And about the loss against Bartoli, I sat on the front row of that match. It wasnt Jankovic loss, it was Bartolis win. Marion played phenomenal.

sweetpeas
Mar 1st, 2009, 05:08 PM
Maybe the extra bulk is slowing her down? Being half a step slower than you're used to will mess up your game.

It takes time! This is one of the main reason ,why Hingis was against this..!

Patrick345
Mar 1st, 2009, 05:25 PM
Maybe the extra bulk is slowing her down? Being half a step slower than you're used to will mess up your game.

I´m not even sure, she had to bulk up. She doesn´t necessarily lack power. Her serve has improved dramatically over the last year, but she has one weakness that can´t be corrected with more physical strength, the grip of her forehand. That is where all her perceived lack of power comes from. Her forehand has too much of a loop/spin on it. As a result the ball slows down and bounces high, which means she can´t kill points with it, or play good approach shots. She can generate more power with her backhand and finish points with it, but obviously the 5-6 women on tour with a brain, know they can play a defensive ball to Jankovic´s forehand to escape trouble. If she simply worked on a loose grip and a flattened out swing it would give Jankovic the tool to be a much more effective offensive player.

fufuqifuqishahah
Mar 1st, 2009, 05:40 PM
Lol guys. First off; nobody can stay on top form forever. Not even frikkin federer. Everybody has ups and downs. Jelena is obiously going through a minor down. And about the loss against Bartoli, I sat on the front row of that match. It wasnt Jankovic loss, it was Bartolis win. Marion played phenomenal.

Jelena wasn't doing anything with the ball which allowed Marion to play phenomenal, just like with Venus - CSN, except Venus was getting to more of the balls

Charlieflip
Mar 1st, 2009, 06:00 PM
Jelena wasn't doing anything with the ball which allowed Marion to play phenomenal, just like with Venus - CSN, except Venus was getting to more of the balls

Jelena couldn't do anything with the ball because of Marions exceptional play.

kiwifan
Mar 1st, 2009, 06:15 PM
So...by your definition only slam champions have heart, right? Almost every girl out there has heart.

If everyone has heart than no one really has heart, they're all average. ;)

Just like all 100m sprinters are fast. :lol:

Just like when people argue that they all have talent or athleticism, sure they do but when you're measuring the difference between pros there are gaps and yes, with few exceptions Slam Champs do have more heart than those who compete but don't triumph, especially those who triumph everywhere but in the 4 Major Events. :cool:

Patrick345
Mar 1st, 2009, 06:18 PM
Jelena couldn't do anything with the ball because of Marions exceptional play.

Two-edged sword. Jankovic plays these high-arching forehands to the middle of the court, who sometimes lack depth, especially when she is not on top of her game and that are the balls Bartoli can attack. When you give Bartoli such control over the rallies and she is on, you are in a world of trouble. On the other hand if you move Bartoli around the court with deep balls, she starts to make mistakes.

terjw
Mar 1st, 2009, 08:27 PM
Well - it's not the best start. But Jelena has hardly played this year - just three tournaments. And she's the type of player who does need matches to get her confidence and rhythm. Oh and I did think Marion played lights out against Jelena at AO. It seemed her whole purpose she was playing at the AO was to knock out Jelena and just that.

I do think Jelena's early preparation and not playing at Sydney was a mistake.

Optima
Mar 1st, 2009, 08:34 PM
If everyone has heart than no one really has heart, they're all average. ;)

Just like all 100m sprinters are fast. :lol:

Just like when people argue that they all have talent or athleticism, sure they do but when you're measuring the difference between pros there are gaps and yes, with few exceptions Slam Champs do have more heart than those who compete but don't triumph, especially those who triumph everywhere but in the 4 Major Events. :cool:

Meh, still don't agree. There are a lot of things that go into creating "heart" than just winning big tournaments. It takes guts to go out there day after day (in some girls cases) and just keep getting beat time after time after time.

DOUBLEFIST
Mar 1st, 2009, 08:43 PM
too early to say. Could just be a transition in her game. could be bad luck. could be a personal issue. could be people are on to her. could be she's over rated to begin with and is settling in where she should be. could be absolutely nothing but a lull in her intensity which she'll pick back up later. :shrug:

could be nothing at all.

Charlieflip
Mar 1st, 2009, 09:11 PM
Well - it's not the best start. But Jelena has hardly played this year - just three tournaments. And she's the type of player who does need matches to get her confidence and rhythm. Oh and I did think Marion played lights out against Jelena at AO. It seemed her whole purpose she was playing at the AO was to knock out Jelena and just that.

I do think Jelena's early preparation and not playing at Sydney was a mistake.

I couldn't agree more. Marion humiliated her.

miffedmax
Mar 1st, 2009, 09:21 PM
God is punishing her for the nose job.

raffles
Mar 1st, 2009, 10:03 PM
God is punishing her for the nose job.

What about her boob job?

I say its those cheap shoes she's wearing.

Marilyn Monheaux
Mar 1st, 2009, 10:13 PM
^^JJ had a boob job:eek:

Yeah, her shoes suck! She should keep Reebok's and make them look like anta's:o

kiwifan
Mar 1st, 2009, 10:21 PM
Meh, still don't agree. There are a lot of things that go into creating "heart" than just winning big tournaments. It takes guts to go out there day after day (in some girls cases) and just keep getting beat time after time after time.

Well considering the alternative for many of them is going back home, becoming a personal trainer or finding a rich husband I will respectfully disagree that it takes courage to be a pro tennis player - it is a dream come true - that may not have turned out the way they thought it would but still it isn't like there's likely to be something else they'd rather be doing. :lol: :tape:

Guts or no guts most pro tennis players tend to remain pro tennis players until they can no longer survive as pro tennis players even Henin is still swinging a racket as a teaching pro.

raffles
Mar 1st, 2009, 10:23 PM
No I was only joking, seriously I think she's just wearing some push up bra thing.

Her shoes even look cheap and nasty. I bet she could have bought those things at the Fakes Market in Beijing for £10 for 2. JJ nasty looking feet at Paris certainly weren't a good advertisment for wearing Anta shoes.