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fufuqifuqishahah
Jan 21st, 2009, 07:48 PM
Well, with all this Jelena Jankovic bashing, I think it's important that GM posters try to highlight what is so great about her game that enables her to beat all the other players who some GM posters claim should be #1 instead. We can also comment on what she needs to work on to become an even stronger #1 and win some Grand Slams.

While you can be silly and say there's nothing good about her game, your efforts are unoriginal and possessed by anger and jealousy. She may not be the most steely and the most talented of past #1s in anybody's eyes, but that doesn't mean there's absolutely nothing remarkable about her game. And that is not the point of this thread. :D

So I shall start. :wavey:

Jelena is a great mover, who anticipates the ball extremely well. When she's on the defensive, she doesn't always go for broke; when she doesn't go for some amazing passing shot, she usually plays an intelligent, well-placed shot that gives her time to stay in the rally, giving the illusion that she is a better mover than she really may be. Some of the flick-wrist lobs that she makes while she's on the defense are truly remarkable, some of the best I have ever seen.

She very rarely over hits the ball or makes a silly mistake. If you look at almost all the players on the wtatour, including past champions, they would miss easy shots or the final shot in well-set up points noticeably more regularly than Jelena. Additionally, Jelena usually has a comparatively low unforced error count. If you have been following her career a little bit, you may notice that in recent years, she has been playing with more aggressiveness and as a result has had both more winners and more unforced errors than in the past. Before, she would often have both single-digit winners and single-digit unforced errors after finishing a three-setter.

Jelena constructs points very well. While I won't go so far as to say she's brilliant, her consistent shots allow her to set-up points beautifully, and enable her to turn defensive points into ones in which she has a control. Whenever there is a drop shot or a ball that dribbles over the net, Jelena will almost never overplay the shot; Jelena will place the ball exactly where she needs to, using mostly wrist and forearm to make the shot rather than going for a full stroke. This is obviously enhanced by her great anticipation. With great anticipation comes great court awareness, she knows where her opponent is and where she (the opponent) will be going, and the types of shots she may have trouble getting to.

In the early rounds, she often just does what she needs to do to win. She'll often play at some sluggish, mediocre level and then raise her game only when or if she needs to. This can both be advantageous (saving her mental energy for later rounds) but dangerous (staying on court longer than she needs to and requiring to fight hard and flirt disaster if the match gets close). That being said, while she does work for every point, she often beats many lower-ranked players very handily, meaning not winning more than 4 games.

A good percentage of her shots are attackable, especially when she isn't playing with depth, and not doing anything deliberate with the point. This is why she often has problems with players such as Ana Ivanovic and Maria Sharapova who can consistently generate a well-disguised powerful shot. The rally will be going on normally, no big shots from either side, and then boom, a powerful opponent just smacks a winner, catching Jelena off-guard. This includes Jelena's mediocre serve.

The good thing about Jelena's serve though is that she gets a very high percentage on her first serve. Obviously, she has been trying to beef it up recently, but this would be excellent if she can develop a powerful first serve with only a slight drop in percentage; or if she could use her current first serve as her second serve as well. If I were her, I wouldn't worry about beefing it up too much however since the danger of creating currently non-existent shoulder and arm problems may arise.

Another issue Jelena has worked on but still not conquered is the mental aspect of her game against the top players. When things get close with a top player, she has difficulty maintaining a lead or gaining one, and thus loses the match. This is why her H2H against Henin is atrocious, even though most of their matches were long three setters. For example, in the Ana Ivanovic Roland Garros 2008 Semifinal, instead of really being aggressive, flaring her emotions, and pumping herself up, she played passively and her demeanor was like she had already accepted the possibility that she might lose. In the Miami 2008 Final against Serena, Jelena pretty much played tennis from far behind the baseline (which is unusual for Jelena (another positive element I forgot to bring up earlier)) for a large portion of the match, just feeding lobs to Serena waiting for her to miss.

Even though Jelena is a big fat drama queen publicly, you will notice that she still internalizes a lot of emotions, suggesting there is much more to be left for us to see that we may never. She is clearly comfortable showing the humorous, fun side of her and also the diva side of her, but we cannot limit our understanding of Jelena (or anyone for that matter) to simply what is obvious. You can tell that there are a lot of thoughts circulating in her head, especially when the match is tight against a top player. She probably does not behave this way consciously, but if she can learn to really fight against the top players in the big occasions like a true champion, get the audience more excited on her side, we may see her winning some Grand Slams.

VishaalMaria
Jan 21st, 2009, 07:53 PM
To sum it up to a certain extent, Jelena is too rigid, it's quite hard to break her game down. Too hard at times.

Horizon
Jan 21st, 2009, 07:54 PM
Post of the year :worship:

I'm not a fan, but Jelena deserves some respect around here.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 21st, 2009, 07:55 PM
http://www.tennisforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=877

Player forums

fufuqifuqishahah
Jan 21st, 2009, 08:02 PM
http://www.tennisforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=877

Player forums

The only people who go to the player forums are fans of those players, and maybe the occasional troll. I bring it up here so there can be an active discussion about Jelena's game, the #1 ranked tennis player, amongst those who are fans and those who aren't.

RenaSlam.
Jan 21st, 2009, 08:05 PM
http://www.tennisforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=877

Player forums

Co-sign.

Vaidisova Ruled
Jan 21st, 2009, 08:25 PM
So you can say many negative things in the GM but you can only say positiv things in her forum?

дalex
Jan 21st, 2009, 08:51 PM
Nice thread, but it will probably have the same faith as all other positive threads! So, I'll just post some nice vids that show JJ's biggest qualities as a player - speed, anticipation, fighting spirit AND down-the-line shots

Example #1 - Speed and skill:
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Example #2 - Defense to offense:
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Example #3 - No need to say anything about this one:
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Example #4 - Overall game:
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raffles
Jan 21st, 2009, 09:01 PM
:inlove: Great thread.

Enough with JJ bashing, its tiresome in the extreme. In fact I can usually tell a thread is going to turn into a anti-JJ rant just by looking at the title.

AcesHigh
Jan 21st, 2009, 09:03 PM
Player forums?

Optima
Jan 21st, 2009, 09:05 PM
Player forums?

Good lord, like there haven't been a zillion threads dedicated to Venus's game before.

Josh.
Jan 21st, 2009, 09:06 PM
Thread of the year. Easily. :bowdown:

misael
Jan 21st, 2009, 09:13 PM
I think one of her biggest assets is , that she's not afraid of Venus and Serena. Like them or not , most players are measured by the Sisters, and Unlike most players, Jelena is not afraid of them.

northern lad
Jan 21st, 2009, 09:20 PM
world #1 :worship::hearts:

дalex
Jan 21st, 2009, 09:28 PM
As for her flaws...
She already improved her serve a lot and I believe it's going to be even better. She even throws some kick on her 2nd serves now. Hopefully she'll stop just pushing serves in when she's in tight situations in matches.
Her FH crosscourt is a mess! Wish she would flatten it a bit and hit it with more pace. Her "new body" should help her with that.
Go more to the net 'cos she really has a good volleys technique.

...

AcesHigh
Jan 21st, 2009, 09:29 PM
Good lord, like there haven't been a zillion threads dedicated to Venus's game before.

Those should be in the player's forum also.

And I dont ever recall a thread solely dedicated to praising the game of any other player.

Josh.
Jan 21st, 2009, 09:39 PM
http://www.tennisforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=877

Player forums

Co-sign.

Typical Williams fan. I seem to recall GM containing at least 4 threads soley dedicated to talking about Serena's outfit. Now if those thread were not moved to the respected forums, I don't see why this one should either.

homogenius
Jan 21st, 2009, 09:39 PM
Player forums?

Jelena's forum = GM

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 25th, 2009, 12:51 AM
She is just a boring pusher :shrug:

Golovinjured.
Jan 25th, 2009, 01:11 AM
worst #1 :worship::hearts:

:bowdown:

Polikarpov
Jan 25th, 2009, 02:19 AM
This thread shouldn't be moved into the player forums. What, we could have threads devoted to individual player's outfits, but not have one about their games here in GM?

A lot of people say that Jelena is an above-average player at most, but think she's one of the best defensive players of this generation. It takes the same amount of talent to be a good defensive player as it is to be a good aggressive player.

I guess people nowadays have a hard time accepting the fact that counter-punchers could be world no. 1 as well because the current yardstick of being a top player is having an arsenal of blistering shots.

I love Jelena because when I watch her matches, I'm always assured that I'm going to see good rallies with more than four shots in it even if she's playing a hard hitter.