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fufuqifuqishahah
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:04 PM
:D

Mention all the players you think have unfulfilled / untapped talent who have nowhere near reached their potential :D, and whose outlook is grim at the moment, most likely due to mental reasons, motivation, and maybe a little bit of injuries.


I'll start...
Nicole Vaidisova



To a lesser extent
Tatiana Golovin
Daniela Hantuchova
Na Li



On the lower level scale...
Alexandra Stevenson
Karolina Sprem
Jelena Dokic
Ashley Harkleroad


Obviously, you could mention a lot of players..., but I won't mention any grand slam players, players who are very young, players who are in retirement, or players who i don't know very well. :D

Vaidisova Ruled
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:09 PM
Maria Sharapova

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:12 PM
nicole v :sobbing:

angela haynes

jamea jackson

donald young

égalité
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:13 PM
Natalia Chmyreva. Look her up.

DragonFlame
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:14 PM
Na li(injuryprone but so so much talent. Has a big game.)
Nicole Vaidisova
Tatiana Golovin(injuryprone, but a lot of talent)
Kim Clijsters(i think everyone would have thought she would be a multiple slamwinner at least, i thought she would at least reach davenport caliber)
Jelena Dokic(shoulda-coulda situation)
Justine henin(not unfilfilled but she retired WAY too early. Could and should have reached 10 slams in singles, with at least 1 wimbledon.)

Dawson.
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:17 PM
Naomi Cavaday

Convoluted
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:19 PM
Clijsters for me, 10 years from now unknowlegeable people will barely remember her, all because she has only 1 slam to her name. reaching rolland garros final at 17 y.o. seemed such an inmensely promising start. I guess all the missed opportunities finally got to her...

And Kuzzie. I seriously think that with her game she should have achieved a lot more.

LUVMIRZA
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:19 PM
Martina Hingis :sobbing: I am still not able to get over her.

Pebbles
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:23 PM
Lucic

Kournikova

égalité
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:25 PM
Martina Hingis :sobbing: I am still not able to get over her.

omg I know :sobbing:

Amazing career, but still could've won so many more slams if she didn't go crazy and turn into Chokepusherunmotivatedtina when she was like 18. :smash:

wales1994
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:30 PM
Cavaday and Bally :(

Kournikova, Vaidasova and Dokic

charmedRic
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:30 PM
For anyone that puts any players 21 or younger on their lists ... give these girls some time. Unfulfilled implies that it isn't going to happen, and our WTA Tour is FULL of stories of late blooming, early blooming, and boom & bust & boom.

Ladies that belong in the "unfulfilled" category: Kournikova, Tulyaganova, Stevenson, Lucic, Clijsters*, Henin*, Seles*.

Ladies who have time against them in being able to fulfill this so called potential: Vaidisova, Sprem, Mirza, Kutuzova.



* These players played at full potential but didn't play out that potential its entire length for whatever reason.

SV_Fan
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:31 PM
Kournikova
Davenport
Sprem
Dokic
Stevenson
Venus
Clijsters
Seles
Tracy Austin
Andrea Jaeger
Hantuchova
Hingis
Dementieva
Kuznetsova

égalité
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:32 PM
Has no one said Monique Viele yet? http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/kink.gif

SV_Fan
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:36 PM
Chanda Rubin
Lucic
Mauresmo
Pierce
Sharapova
Garrison
Jackson
Mcneil
Novotna

SV_Fan
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:37 PM
Has no one said Monique Viele yet? http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/kink.gif

Well no one has seen her play so we cant say.

SV_Fan
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:38 PM
To be honest I think majority of the french player have not fulfilled there potential.

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:41 PM
Nadia Petrova
Maria Kirilenko
and I know she's retired but I have to add Monica Seles. classic case of what could have been?

Slutiana
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:53 PM
TATIANA GOLOVIN. :sobbing:

LCS
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:54 PM
Has no one said Monique Viele yet? http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/kink.gif



http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/kink.gifhttp://www.buzzjack.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/kink.gifhttp://www.buzzjack.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/kink.gif

Ferosh
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:54 PM
Nadia Petrova


I was just about to post the same.

Nadia was on the verge of fulfilling that talent in mid 2006. Her forehand and her mental frailty have always been her weaknesses, but now you have to add the movement, fitness and on-court attitude.

I honestly believe she still has time to fix these problems. I'm just not so sure that she is willing to work on them. :sad:

CJ07
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:55 PM
Nadia Petrova
Maria Kirilenko
and I know she's retired but I have to add Monica Seles. classic case of what could have been?
For Seles, I think a better question would be: what would've happen had she stayed fit? She is in wonderful shape now, but was 20 pounds overweight for most of her second career. The fact that she could be 3-6 consistently being so out of shape makes one wonder what she could've done at peak fitness.

ViennaCalling
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:55 PM
Mary Pierce and Barbara Schwartz :sad:

Demska
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:59 PM
Serena Williams

Dav.
Jan 20th, 2009, 09:06 PM
Tati would have been huge, like it or not. If you take away the matches affected by injury or comeback events, she was obviously destied for great things as all of the knowledgeable reporters and fans acknowledged in her short career.

She's only 20, though.

Monica_Rules
Jan 20th, 2009, 09:12 PM
Due to injuries Na Li and Golovin

due to some unknown reason Kuznetsova, she should have won 4/5 GS by now.

From a british perspective Naomi Cavaday. She has a top 50 player game but her fitness/movement is not good. Plus i have heard a few people say her work ethic isn't great. Still she's still only 19 so pleaty of time.

zhangxian22
Jan 20th, 2009, 09:17 PM
speaking of Na Li, I personally think her bizarre retirement counts more for her underaccomplishment...
she pretty much won every tournament in China at some point but still had no chance to play international events...

Optima
Jan 20th, 2009, 09:17 PM
Hingis, Henin, Srebotnik, Petrova, Safarova...although I still think Safarova can turn it around.

Shvedbarilescu
Jan 20th, 2009, 09:21 PM
Almost everyone. The truth is very few players really get everything there is out of their game. Players who totally fulfill their potential are very much the exception and not the rule. I believe a large number of the players who spend their entire careers stuck on the ITF tour began with the potential to actually be successful on the main tour had they received better coaching, not had bad illnesses/injuries and/or stayed more motivated and focused. Unfortunately it is very easy for a player to get in a rut and just stay stuck at the lower level once they lose confidence in themselves. It is quite sad actually.

IMPOSSIBLE
Jan 20th, 2009, 09:22 PM
Arvidsson and Baltacha

Aravanecaravan
Jan 20th, 2009, 09:56 PM
Tamira Paszek. Off the ground, I think she can go toe to toe with anyone in the world, and her near wins over Henin, Sharapova and Jankovic and wins over Dementieva and Ivanovic well before the age of 18 clearly demonstrate this. Her liability is that in an age of giantesses, she is short, for a modern tennis player, and her serve is simply non-competitive. I keep holding out hope for her, because she is as tall as Henin who clearly beefed up her serve in recent years. But until she can hold serve comfortably, I think her career will be one of near misses.

SV_Fan
Jan 20th, 2009, 10:02 PM
speaking of Na Li, I personally think her bizarre retirement counts more for her underaccomplishment...
she pretty much won every tournament in China at some point but still had no chance to play international events...

She really retired?

MrSerenaWilliams
Jan 20th, 2009, 10:59 PM
Capriati :sobbing:

Serena :o

Sammm
Jan 20th, 2009, 11:33 PM
For Seles, I think a better question would be: what would've happen had she stayed fit? She is in wonderful shape now, but was 20 pounds overweight for most of her second career. The fact that she could be 3-6 consistently being so out of shape makes one wonder what she could've done at peak fitness.
I have to agree :sad: The problem with Monica was that when she was often asked what she needed to work on to get back to slam-winning form she would often say her serve was the most important aspect to work on... Seemed like she didn' want to acknowledge those extra pounds. And we saw what she achieved when she managed to lose some of the weight (RG 98, Summer 2001)

Uranus
Jan 20th, 2009, 11:50 PM
Clijsters for me, 10 years from now unknowlegeable people will barely remember her, all because she has only 1 slam to her name. reaching rolland garros final at 17 y.o. seemed such an inmensely promising start. I guess all the missed opportunities finally got to her...
The only reason Kim Clijsters didn't win multiple slams and didn't hold that #1 for a long time is Justine Henin. At the beginning, people thought Kim was better. Then Justine had that long tennis session at Bolletieri's academy, they played that final at RG '03 which Kim lost easily. She is mentally much weaker, started some complex against Justine and they played several times in slam finals afterwards, all won by Justine. She had taken over.
When she was #1-#2, with her game Kim would have defeated anyone who's playing right now. She could handle nearly all the best players at the time, often in straight sets: Davenport, Capriati, Mauresmo, Myskina, Rubin, Dementieva and also Justine before RG.

I wouldn't say Seles or Henin are unfulfilled talents. They showed amazing level of play and dominance at their best, won nearly everything. I'd say they underachieved because of injuries, but they did show what they were capable of.

Volcana
Jan 21st, 2009, 12:17 AM
As always with the word 'talent', it's impossible to answer until you define what you mean by that word. If we're talent genetics, virtually none of the players mentioned in the OP represent 'unfulfilled' talent. To my mind, it's actually surprising that Dokic and Hantuchova became top five players, given the genetic disadvantages they had against the multi-slam winners.

Vaidisova - You can make the top ten and not be anywhere near slam-winning level. I was wrong about Vaidisova. I thought she could be another Lindsay Davenport. But mentally, she's not top hundred.


Tatiana Golovin, Na Li, Alexandra Stevenson, Karolina Sprem, Ashley Harkleroad ....

To quote a priceless line from another sport

"You are what your record says you are."

Nikkiri
Jan 21st, 2009, 12:20 AM
Maria Kirilenko
Tatiana Golovin
Nicole Vaidisova

starin
Jan 21st, 2009, 12:25 AM
Na Li Retired? news to me.

Serena and Venus. Injury and family tragedy cut them down right at their prime and they've had to essentially start over.

Dav.
Jan 21st, 2009, 12:29 AM
The WS are the farthest thing from unfulfilled talent, probably the contrary, considering their background and humble beginning.

fufuqifuqishahah
Jan 21st, 2009, 01:02 AM
Almost everyone. The truth is very few players really get everything there is out of their game. Players who totally fulfill their potential are very much the exception and not the rule. I believe a large number of the players who spend their entire careers stuck on the ITF tour began with the potential to actually be successful on the main tour had they received better coaching, not had bad illnesses/injuries and/or stayed more motivated and focused. Unfortunately it is very easy for a player to get in a rut and just stay stuck at the lower level once they lose confidence in themselves. It is quite sad actually.

this is a very good post. :worship:

partbrit
Jan 21st, 2009, 01:11 AM
Current players only:

PATTY SCHNYDER!
Nadia Petrova
Tatiana Golovin
Camille Pin
Michaella Krajicek
Julia Vakulenko
Li Na
Elena Bovina
Marta Domachowska
Nathalie Dechy

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 21st, 2009, 01:24 AM
Serena Williams

Capriati :sobbing:

Serena :o

Na Li Retired? news to me.

Serena and Venus. Injury and family tragedy cut them down right at their prime and they've had to essentially start over.


I agree, Serena has vast amount of talent and shouldve won way more Grandslams by now, same goes for Venus.