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barboza
Jan 19th, 2009, 06:48 AM
http://www.tennis-channel.tv/tennis/

In an interview with Tennis Channel at the French Open, Jelena said the same thing when she was interviewed by ESPN a while back ago:

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"To be honest, you know I finished No.1 in the world and I earned that spot. Because I didn't buy that ranking, and the ranking did not fall from the sky. I played as much as the other girls played, and I'm the one who finished with the most points at the end of the year. And I thought I began to dominate women's tennis at the end of last year. :tape:I played in the finals at the US Open, won three tournaments in a row where the best players were playing :tape:, so I took that chance and finished No.1, and not many people can say they are No.1 in the world in anything. And I'm the only the ninth player in women's history to do that, so with or without the grand slam I've been the best player in the world."

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Chris Fowler asked JJ on ESPN what she thought of her position as No.1 and without a Slam. Then she replied, "you know I worked hard to get it. I didn't buy the ranking, it didn't fall from the sky.. Some people have won a Grand Slam and they didn't reach No.1. And if I win 4 Grand Slams people are going to ask me why I am not winning 10, 25. :tape:"

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The Jelena Jankovic bashing is a bit ridiculous. I just can't believe that the commentators on ESPN - virtually all of them - are saying JJ doesn't deserve, look or act like a No.1. Why can't they instill the fact that it doesn't take someone to win a Grand Slam to be the top player?

saul1333
Jan 19th, 2009, 06:51 AM
bc they are all over the william's sisters. they say if venus/serena played as much they would be 1 and 2.
they also tried to church it up by saying they arent critics but they are skeptics. lol.

Tennisstar86
Jan 19th, 2009, 06:53 AM
Maybe because Jankovic doesnt garner respect running around talking about anyone can have a lucky two weeks and pretending to be injured before every tournament but never showing it on court. Maybe if Jankovic started acting like a number 1/top player instead of a junior, shed get some respect.

Amalgamate
Jan 19th, 2009, 06:54 AM
:haha: They continue to refer to her ranking as "the computer says so". It's great!

V's a star
Jan 19th, 2009, 07:11 AM
:lol: Anyone with common sense would agree

Josh.
Jan 19th, 2009, 07:15 AM
Fact is she is number one and clearly they are struggling to deal with that. It's ok though, winning says more then words ever could.

Inger67
Jan 19th, 2009, 07:16 AM
Funny that none of you JJ fans see it but every analyst on espn and many other telecasts say the exact same thing...

Not saying she is a bad tennis player, just not deserving of the #1 ranking! :help:

Josh.
Jan 19th, 2009, 07:19 AM
Funny that none of you JJ fans see it but every analyst on espn and many other telecasts say the exact same thing...

Not saying she is a bad tennis player, just not deserving of the #1 ranking! :help:

Their not directly saying it, but they might aswell. She played, and won enough times to gain the necessary points to be the best player in the world. She's got to be doing something right. Also, because these so called analyst and so blinded by their love for the Williams sisters, they can't digest the idea of someone esle being better then Venus and Serena are. I do agree, if they were 100% commited to the game (seeming less and less likely) they would be number one and two in the world.

AcesHigh
Jan 19th, 2009, 07:28 AM
B/c they know what they are talking about. It's not bashing.. just accept the reality. Carillo and others gave her enough praise.

Jakeev
Jan 19th, 2009, 07:41 AM
Blame the freaking ranking system not Jelena. She can't help it she is THE most consistent non-Slam winner out there.

franny
Jan 19th, 2009, 07:44 AM
Because she is not the number 1 player in the world. Number 1 means you are the best player in the world. It's not even about winning a grand slam, its about the fact that she is clearly weaker than both Williams sisters. Not just that, but even if she went up against Ivanovic, I'd favor Ivanovic even if she is in a poor slump.

Just Do It
Jan 19th, 2009, 07:44 AM
Funny that none of you JJ fans see it but every analyst on espn and many other telecasts say the exact same thing...

Not saying she is a bad tennis player, just not deserving of the #1 ranking! :help:

Yes, but analysts in USA :lol: On Euro Sport and RTS they discussed about it as well and they said that is how ranking system works, and people should deal with it.

Br'er Rabbit
Jan 19th, 2009, 07:55 AM
I kind of feel a tad bit bad for her. I know it's not her fault, the computer never lies about the points. But if she wasn't so overdramatic and faking illnesses, and actually won atleast on the big tournaments (i.e. Miami, IW) maybe people wouldn't be on her back so much.

Br'er Rabbit
Jan 19th, 2009, 07:56 AM
And you have to admit those ESPN comms know their info, but Brad's pick for who wins the slam is making me wonder about him.

Serenita
Jan 19th, 2009, 07:57 AM
Just accept it the fact is she play's 112343234243243 tourny's a year, and she havent won a slam. So people dont consider her "THE" number 1 player in world.
All she needs to do is win a slam then everyone would shut up.

Valanga
Jan 19th, 2009, 07:58 AM
are these commentators Americans?

Just Do It
Jan 19th, 2009, 07:59 AM
Just accept it the fact is she play's 112343234243243 tourny's a year, and she havent won a slam. So people dont consider her "THE" number 1 player in world.
All she needs to do is win a slam then everyone would shut up.

I highly doubt it.

Valanga
Jan 19th, 2009, 08:00 AM
I highly doubt it.

at that time WS fans would do the Slam count.

Serenita
Jan 19th, 2009, 08:03 AM
i meant about not being a "good"number1, off course JJ will do annoying things to irritate everybody. But at least she'll have a GS under her belt.

Just Do It
Jan 19th, 2009, 08:05 AM
at that time WS fans would do the Slam count.

My thoughts exactly :haha:

I dont know why do people on this board have a need to always compare players :confused:

Valanga
Jan 19th, 2009, 08:07 AM
My thoughts exactly :haha:

I dont know why do people on this board have a need to always compare players :confused:

to them, anybody except WS on top 2(or 1, maybe) should deserve their timeless, endless, so-called-justified bashing.

Serenita
Jan 19th, 2009, 08:07 AM
god knows where this thread is heading

Groenefelder25
Jan 19th, 2009, 08:14 AM
Just accept it the fact is she play's 112343234243243 tourny's a year, and she havent won a slam. So people dont consider her "THE" number 1 player in world.
All she needs to do is win a slam then everyone would shut up.

wrong. When she wins 1, it will be "why havent you won 4?" when she wins 4, it's "why haven't you won 10?" << as Jelena rightly said in her interview.

Their is always something in tennis people find to moan about, always *something* players haven't done.

~Cherry*Blossom~
Jan 19th, 2009, 08:15 AM
Mats Wilander even said Jankovic didn't deserve to be #1 on Eurosport :tape: (During the interview where Kuzzy was interupting it at the start :lol: )

MaBaker
Jan 19th, 2009, 08:17 AM
World No.1 Jelena Jankovic > ESPN commentators.

Serenita
Jan 19th, 2009, 08:17 AM
No slam, no real no1, simple as that.

ivanban
Jan 19th, 2009, 08:43 AM
Funny that none of you JJ fans see it but every analyst on espn and many other telecasts say the exact same thing...

Not saying she is a bad tennis player, just not deserving of the #1 ranking! :help:

Uhmmm, there are rules for getting #1 spot as I remember. Whoever accumulates most points under those rules is #1. There isn't category of "undeserving #1" :cuckoo:

ivanban
Jan 19th, 2009, 08:47 AM
Mats Wilander even said Jankovic didn't deserve to be #1 on Eurosport :tape: (During the interview where Kuzzy was interupting it at the start :lol: )

He also said that Federer will surelly win RG and Wimbly in 2008 :shrug:

empressionist
Jan 19th, 2009, 08:56 AM
I wonder what would happen if jelena was to suddenly change her nationality to USA? Those "analysts" would find a way to proclaim her "legitimacy". No slam would be needed! Yes there might be doubts over this issue, but if everyone can do it the way jelena did, then why dont they do it?! If she was to play only the 6-7 strongest tournies and win them, then the problem would be she is not playing enough, that too would be a problem. There will always be SOMETHING!

treufreund
Jan 19th, 2009, 09:02 AM
I love Jelena and really don't understand why it matters to the OP what these haters (oh, I mean "commentators") think.

youizahoe
Jan 19th, 2009, 09:16 AM
I can't blame them, Jankovic needs to stop with all the injuries and fake behaviour. But we do need to aknowledge that she deserved the ranking with all the tourneys she has won, and the super consistency throughout the whole year.

V's a star
Jan 19th, 2009, 09:20 AM
Fact is she is number one and clearly they are struggling to deal with that. It's ok though, winning says more then words ever could.

well to bad she hasnt done that :tape: The chick has never even won a "big" match. Ok Serena last year at the AO, great one QF :clap2:
USO the SF's were jus to windy to even call them matches

volta
Jan 19th, 2009, 09:23 AM
mats wilander basicly said the same thing on Eurosport :o this is getting out of hand :fiery:

Dave.
Jan 19th, 2009, 09:23 AM
I can't blame them, Jankovic needs to stop with all the injuries and fake behaviour. But we do need to aknowledge that she deserved the ranking with all the tourneys she has won, and the super consistency throughout the whole year.

Exactly. :worship: I still don't know how people can think Jankovic is undeserving. They obviously don't know much about the rankings.

Slutiana
Jan 19th, 2009, 09:27 AM
Their not directly saying it, but they might aswell. She played, and won enough times to gain the necessary points to be the best player in the world. She's got to be doing something right. Also, because these so called analyst and so blinded by their love for the Williams sisters, they can't digest the idea of someone esle being better then Venus and Serena are. I do agree, if they were 100% commited to the game (seeming less and less likely) they would be number one and two in the world.
Umm no, these are the same people who were quick to discount the WS and call them unprofessional and whatever...
at that time WS fans would do the Slam count.
:rolleyes: The WS Fans bashing is even more pathetic. Just because one or two act like that doesn't mean we all do. :weirdo:
Mats Wilander even said Jankovic didn't deserve to be #1 on Eurosport :tape: (During the interview where Kuzzy was interupting it at the start :lol: )
:haha: That was hilarious, they were just shocked and it was so random, she cam out of nowhere. :rolls:

volta
Jan 19th, 2009, 09:30 AM
at that time WS fans would do the Slam count.

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Andrew Laeddis
Jan 19th, 2009, 09:53 AM
I wonder what would happen if jelena was to suddenly change her nationality to USA? Those "analysts" would find a way to proclaim her "legitimacy". No slam would be needed! Yes there might be doubts over this issue, but if everyone can do it the way jelena did, then why dont they do it?! If she was to play only the 6-7 strongest tournies and win them, then the problem would be she is not playing enough, that too would be a problem. There will always be SOMETHING!

No thanks. We like our number 1s to win slams. America is just fine with Venus, Serena, Lindsay, Jen and Monica. Serbia can keep Jankovic.

Valanga
Jan 19th, 2009, 09:55 AM
I know, Slutiana that some WS fans are rational. But some of them are just a little over.

youizahoe
Jan 19th, 2009, 10:10 AM
Both Jelana, Serena, Venus, Maria, Elena fans are over, it's really no big deal. You can only feel offended or insulted when you know it's true :)

I only get insulted when they say bad things about serena that are true, otherwise I defend, but I don't care much about it...

talie
Jan 19th, 2009, 10:13 AM
I think most fans want a world number 1 to prove their worth by winning a Slam. Once this happens and if, then JJ will be able to put two fingers up to everybody. Personally, I like the fact that there is no real dominant Navratilova figure in the women's game. In the 80's it got a bit boring tbh. You knew that every Wimbledon was going to be the same until Graff arrived on the scene.

Brena
Jan 19th, 2009, 10:16 AM
ESPN commentators - read my sig.

nikita771
Jan 19th, 2009, 10:54 AM
When I was watching the match earlier, they were commenting about JJ not winning a slam and still being number #1. They said that she wasn't the first to do it and mentioned Amelie. I have to admit that I didn't listen to every comment during the match, but the part that I did hear didn't sound like bashing. They probably made some other comments later, but they also acknowledged that it's possible to be #1 minus a slam. Like several people have mentioned, it is the ranking system that rewards consistent play and is not the player's fault. I love JJ and knows how hard she works her butt of each year. Yes, she's a drama queen - but that just makes it even better.

ivanban
Jan 19th, 2009, 10:56 AM
No thanks. We like our number 1s to win slams. America is just fine with Venus, Serena, Lindsay, Jen and Monica. Serbia can keep Jankovic.

OK, but we're still #1 ;)

P.S. I don't think Lindz, Jen and Monica are of any good use for you now :shrug: Plus, Monica won almost everything while playing for Yugoslavia (Serbia) :angel:

court70
Jan 19th, 2009, 11:14 AM
Their not directly saying it, but they might aswell. She played, and won enough times to gain the necessary points to be the best player in the world. She's got to be doing something right. Also, because these so called analyst and so blinded by their love for the Williams sisters, they can't digest the idea of someone esle being better then Venus and Serena are. I do agree, if they were 100% commited to the game (seeming less and less likely) they would be number one and two in the world.


First of all she's not the best player in the word, secondly, there's no way in hell that she is better than V or S. What are you smoking? Where is she better that V&S.

Rumkin
Jan 19th, 2009, 11:27 AM
I hope JJ wins the AO so she can shut all these people up.

ce
Jan 19th, 2009, 12:05 PM
she is number 1 :weirdo: sss

LoveFifteen
Jan 19th, 2009, 12:36 PM
This just proves how much discrimination and hate there is against members of the GLBT community.

miffedmax
Jan 19th, 2009, 01:04 PM
I've stuck up for JJ as #1, but geez, I've had 10 years (give or take) of hearing my fave doesn't even belong in the Top 10 because she doesn't have a slam.

So you'd better get used to it, because even if she loses No. 1 you'll still hear about it--until she wins a slam.

Lilowannabe
Jan 19th, 2009, 01:49 PM
I just think shes got up everyones backs since that "i'd rather be no.1 than have a lucky two weeks" comment. I think what most 'experts' seems to forget is, in womens tennis these days, the no1 ranking doesnt represent the best player on tour. But instead the most consistent, which Jelena is. Too many injuries and outside interests have kept the real no1 contenders (WS and Sharapova) out of the picture.

Thkmra
Jan 19th, 2009, 01:59 PM
This just proves how much discrimination and hate there is against members of the GLBT community.


:silly:....And how exactly does it!!!

Wait a min...Are you tying to say Jankovic is A...Tranny!!!:tape::help:

LoveFifteen
Jan 19th, 2009, 02:00 PM
:silly:....And how exactly does it!!!

Wait a min...Are you tying to say Jankovic is A...Tranny!!!:tape::help:

No, of course not! I would never make such a déclassé joke. :angel:

Tennisstar86
Jan 19th, 2009, 02:14 PM
No, of course not! I would never make such a déclassé joke. :angel:

:lol: JJ isnt a tranny.....They dont like the attention.
The only possible tranny i see is in your avatar...
JJ's much more of a drag queen, you know they LOVE attention.

CoolDude7
Jan 19th, 2009, 02:17 PM
they did come down on JJ rather heavily. I think they are a little upset that she hasn't gotten the slam yet.

RenaSlam.
Jan 19th, 2009, 02:27 PM
:)

doni1212
Jan 19th, 2009, 02:31 PM
I wonder what would happen if jelena was to suddenly change her nationality to USA? Those "analysts" would find a way to proclaim her "legitimacy". No slam would be needed! Yes there might be doubts over this issue, but if everyone can do it the way jelena did, then why dont they do it?! If she was to play only the 6-7 strongest tournies and win them, then the problem would be she is not playing enough, that too would be a problem. There will always be SOMETHING!

:spit: :spit: :spit:
Believe me, we wouldn't want her.

No thanks. We like our number 1s to win slams. America is just fine with Venus, Serena, Lindsay, Jen and Monica. Serbia can keep Jankovic.

:worship:

joz
Jan 19th, 2009, 02:38 PM
Funny that none of you JJ fans see it but every analyst on espn and many other telecasts say the exact same thing... :help:
I wouldn't call myself a "JJ fan"... she's okay, but I wouldn't say I'm a fan... yet I think she deserves the the number 1 ranking. Analysts and the networks make a big deal of the slams because that's why they exist, but the sport is year round and has eclipsed that line of thinking IMO.
In NASCAR someone would argue the biggest events are ... Daytona 500, Coca-Cola 600, Bristol and perhaps the Brickyard... yet a driver can still win the points series and be number one without winning or placing high at either of those races...
Rankings are cumulative for a 52 week period... the slams represent 8 of those weeks... that's it. If people don't want to recognize her as number one, then let's do away with ratings or better yet, as some would have it, let's count only the Grand Slams... I guarantee you, if that were the case we wouldn't seen professional tennis tournaments but 8 weeks out of the year.

jjcrew#1
Jan 19th, 2009, 02:48 PM
The computer doesnt lie! She is number one and thats it! There are no rules that say you have to win a grandslam to be number one! Kim Clijters and Amelie become number one before winning a slam also and no one seems to say a thing about that????

Tennisstar86
Jan 19th, 2009, 03:01 PM
The computer doesnt lie! She is number one and thats it! There are no rules that say you have to win a grandslam to be number one! Kim Clijters and Amelie become number one before winning a slam also and no one seems to say a thing about that????

stupid jj fans.....

People were saying stuff about it when they were number 1.....but they eventually won slams...... IF JJ gets one, people will get off her back about it, but until she does, shes undeserving...

serenafan08
Jan 19th, 2009, 03:05 PM
If Jelena wins this tournament, all that talk will stop. Until she holds up a Grand Slam trophy, this conversation will continue - plain and simple.

MaBaker
Jan 19th, 2009, 03:08 PM
stupid jj fans.....

:weirdo: ...

Dave.
Jan 19th, 2009, 03:12 PM
stupid jj fans.....

People were saying stuff about it when they were number 1.....but they eventually won slams...... IF JJ gets one, people will get off her back about it, but until she does, shes undeserving...

Who makes these rules that only slam champions deserve the no.1 ranking? It just sounds ridiculous because it's clearly wrong. None of the current slam holders deserve it more than Jankovic; she has handled it much better than Maria, Ana and Serena have.

Lunaris
Jan 19th, 2009, 03:31 PM
bc they are all over the william's sisters. they say if venus/serena played as much they would be 1 and 2.
If they played as much they would be injured, not 1 and 2.

Destiny
Jan 19th, 2009, 03:36 PM
:yawn:

Matt01
Jan 19th, 2009, 04:31 PM
If they played as much they would be injured, not 1 and 2.


Correct.


If Jelena wins this tournament, all that talk will stop. Until she holds up a Grand Slam trophy, this conversation will continue - plain and simple.


And you and your other Serena fans will probably participate the most in those discussions :rolleyes:

Princeza
Jan 19th, 2009, 04:46 PM
:spit: :spit: :spit:
Believe me, we wouldn't want her.
Because you do, obviously represent a whole nation and would have a decision power in this :weirdo:

No thanks. We like our number 1s to win slams. America is just fine with Venus, Serena, Lindsay, Jen and Monica. Serbia can keep Jankovic.

Lindsay,Monica,Jen What will you do when the sisters will be gone?
Where is your new generation apart from Vandeweghe?

spice_of_life
Jan 19th, 2009, 04:56 PM
ESPN commentators have their collective heads up the Williams Sisters arses. They'd do the same if Sharapova was playing. Carillo used to be bitchy toward the Sisters (unfairly IMO) but now she's done a 180 and is one of their biggest cheerleaders. :rolleyes:

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 19th, 2009, 05:10 PM
I wouldn't call myself a "JJ fan"... she's okay, but I wouldn't say I'm a fan... yet I think she deserves the the number 1 ranking. Analysts and the networks make a big deal of the slams because that's why they exist, but the sport is year round and has eclipsed that line of thinking IMO.
In NASCAR someone would argue the biggest events are ... Daytona 500, Coca-Cola 600, Bristol and perhaps the Brickyard... yet a driver can still win the points series and be number one without winning or placing high at either of those races...
Rankings are cumulative for a 52 week period... the slams represent 8 of those weeks... that's it. If people don't want to recognize her as number one, then let's do away with ratings or better yet, as some would have it, let's count only the Grand Slams... I guarantee you, if that were the case we wouldn't seen professional tennis tournaments but 8 weeks out of the year.

good post.

spice_of_life
Jan 19th, 2009, 05:11 PM
I hope JJ can win here and shut everyone up. Everyone has Venus and Serena as near the very top of all time greats (men and women). Yet Venus never held the year-end #1 and Serena only once (2002). Clearly winning slams > #1 ranking, so if JJ grabbed #1 without a slam what's the big deal? :shrug:

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 19th, 2009, 05:11 PM
If they played as much they would be injured, not 1 and 2.

:haha: too funny.

Adaora
Jan 19th, 2009, 05:37 PM
They are right, but it is definitely not Jelena's fault.
The system needs to be fixed.

Ellery
Jan 19th, 2009, 05:47 PM
It's okay if the ESPN commentators are in denial :) Their problem, not Jelena's.

Lunaris
Jan 19th, 2009, 06:04 PM
:haha: too funny.
Too hard concept for you to grasp?

papru
Jan 19th, 2009, 06:08 PM
OMG
how can anybody say she doesnt deserve being no 1??? :tape:
the fucking ranking says so, so she does deserve, live with it !!! its the same as with Radwanska... people say how on earth shes a top 10 player - well, damn she is and the ranking proves it.
The points dont come from nowhere :lol:

so yes she deserve to be No 1!!!!!!! :banana:

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 19th, 2009, 06:11 PM
Too hard concept for you to grasp?

good grief, why does it have to be all that? i thought it was funny...sheesh. get over yourself. :rolleyes:

Aaron.
Jan 19th, 2009, 06:11 PM
She does not deserve No 1 because there are players better then her and she has yet to win a GS so keep thinking otherwise Jelena fans.

V's a star
Jan 19th, 2009, 06:23 PM
The computer doesnt lie! She is number one and thats it! There are no rules that say you have to win a grandslam to be number one! Kim Clijters and Amelie become number one before winning a slam also and no one seems to say a thing about that????

Kim and momo made a couple GS finals before that and also won bigger titles and matches. Once again The chick has never even won a "big" match. Ok Serena last year at the AO, great one QF :clap2:
USO the SF's were jus to windy to even call them matches. And kim an momo didnt say such idiotic things like "if u win a grandslam ur lucky for two weeks, if u end the year #1 ur the best for 52 weeks" WTF!!:confused: Kim and momo were certainly not 1=4 vs top 5 players either. Jus making points cud make lots more :tape:

BuTtErFrEnA
Jan 19th, 2009, 06:48 PM
hmm i don't think it was bashing...pat. mac. made a very good argument about the worth of #1 vs GS titles...he made the comparison between Becker and someone else, and stated that while Becker was like #1 for 12 weeks he won 6 slams, while the other person won 1 slam but was #1 for 80+ weeks...who had the better career?? becker :shrug:

karimcartoon
Jan 19th, 2009, 06:51 PM
I ignore them. I dislike all of them except Mary Joe, Cliff, Pat and thats it. You cannot expect everyone to be wishy wishy on every player and stay "nice". Its not fair and justice is an illusion so Jankovic is handling it in the best way possible, she's indifferent and she doesn't have to justify herself for being number one. She deserves that ranking- in her eyes that a Grand Slam is not a "must" with the number one ranking. But I hope she changes her mind soon because rankings change but winning a Grand Slam title is eternal.

40Love
Jan 19th, 2009, 07:37 PM
[I][I wonder what would happen if jelena was to suddenly change her nationality to USA? Those "analysts" would find a way to proclaim her "legitimacy". No slam would be needed! Yes there might be doubts over this issue, but if everyone can do it the way jelena did, then why dont they do it?! If she was to play only the 6-7 strongest tournies and win them, then the problem would be she is not playing enough, that too would be a problem. There will always be SOMETHING!/I]

If she was American, I think they would be more critcal of Jelena. I remember the talk that Venus and Serna would never win a slam.:lol:

-NAJ-
Jan 19th, 2009, 08:08 PM
I'm with Jelena.

I think is hard to handle these articles but she is strong. Go JJ

MagicMilan
Jan 19th, 2009, 10:29 PM
Kim and momo made a couple GS finals before that and also won bigger titles and matches. Once again The chick has never even won a "big" match. Ok Serena last year at the AO, great one QF :clap2:
Momo made only one slam final before reaching no.1, not "a couple of GS finals" :bs:

V's a star
Jan 20th, 2009, 01:27 AM
Momo made only one slam final before reaching no.1, not "a couple of GS finals" :bs:

my bad. well great still she won big matches n better titles, had class. Again wat does JJ have??? oh ya a label #1 but no substance to it

VeeReeDavJCap81
Jan 20th, 2009, 01:57 AM
I don't like the b*tch but I admit she deserves the #1 ranking. She earned it fair and square, the players better than her obviously don't care what the computer says and that's a good thing.

doni1212
Jan 20th, 2009, 02:51 AM
Momo made only one slam final before reaching no.1, not "a couple of GS finals" :bs:

Jankovic still didn't even have that!!!

Br'er Rabbit
Jan 20th, 2009, 03:00 AM
Not to mention no tier I titles

Optima
Jan 20th, 2009, 03:02 AM
Not to mention no tier I titles

Um, what?

Josh.
Jan 20th, 2009, 03:08 AM
First of all she's not the best player in the word, secondly, there's no way in hell that she is better than V or S. What are you smoking? Where is she better that V&S.

Where in my post did I directly say that she was better then the Williams sisters alone? She is the best player on tour right now, the entire tour.

Josh.
Jan 20th, 2009, 03:11 AM
well to bad she hasnt done that :tape: The chick has never even won a "big" match. Ok Serena last year at the AO, great one QF :clap2:
USO the SF's were jus to windy to even call them matches

I was talking about winning consistenly rather then the big matches. But yes, your right, she hasn't won a big match. Yet.

Inger67
Jan 20th, 2009, 03:13 AM
Their not directly saying it, but they might aswell. She played, and won enough times to gain the necessary points to be the best player in the world. She's got to be doing something right. Also, because these so called analyst and so blinded by their love for the Williams sisters, they can't digest the idea of someone esle being better then Venus and Serena are. I do agree, if they were 100% commited to the game (seeming less and less likely) they would be number one and two in the world.

It's not like they're not committed.. That's not the issue. Why, just because they don't play 20+ events like everyone else they have a lack of passion for the game? Negative. If the Williams' sisters played that much year in and year out, frankly we wouldn't be watching them at this years AO. All the other players who contested the Williams' during their era are now retired. They are the last ones standing essentially. They know how to manage their time and show up to the tournaments they have to. And for them to still be contesting for the #1 ranking with 8 less tournaments than the others is a testament to their level of play, talent, and heart.

It's just hard for me to accept that the rankings say JJ is the best player because she obviously is not. She hasn't won anything to prove herself besides a few Tier II events.

And please don't get me wrong, I respect JJ's game. She has one of the best BHDTL's that I have seen. She is a great tennis player, definitely top 5 material, just not #1 to me and many others.

doni1212
Jan 20th, 2009, 03:14 AM
Where in my post did I directly say that she was better then the Williams sisters alone? She is the best player on tour right now, the entire tour.

:rolls: :rolls: :rolls:

Br'er Rabbit
Jan 20th, 2009, 03:15 AM
I agree she's the most consistent player on the tour along with Elena, but calling her the best player is overdoing it.

Tennisstar86
Jan 20th, 2009, 03:16 AM
Where in my post did I directly say that she was better then the Williams sisters alone? She is the best player on tour right now, the entire tour.

:lol: I'm sorry, its been 3 months since Jelena won a title.....

doni1212
Jan 20th, 2009, 03:19 AM
:lol: I'm sorry, its been 3 months since Jelena won a title.....

Not to mention what kind of title that was and what kind of "competition" she faced, :rolleyes:

Tennisstar86
Jan 20th, 2009, 03:22 AM
Not to mention what kind of title that was and what kind of "competition" she faced, :rolleyes:

and the fact that shes lost 3 times since then.....

Cakeisgood
Jan 20th, 2009, 03:37 AM
Not to mention no tier I titles

Do your research before posting. She's won 4.

And I don't get this whole undeserving thing. She's made a final and gave Ree a hell of a ride. Last year, she won a huge haul of titles.

She's not the best player out there, but her consistency and tenacity for tennis is unparalleled. That is why she is Number 1.

She's not my favorite, and if she's not yours, deal with it. Points don't come off for an "undeserving" factor.

doni1212
Jan 20th, 2009, 03:39 AM
Do your research before posting. She's won 4.

And I don't get this whole undeserving thing. She's made a final and gave Ree a hell of a ride. Last year, she won a huge haul of titles.

She's not the best player out there, but her consistency and tenacity for tennis is unparalleled. That is why she is Number 1.

She's not my favorite, and if she's not yours, deal with it. Points don't come off for an "undeserving" factor.

But they should, :devil: :rolls:

Ellery
Jan 20th, 2009, 03:39 AM
Not to mention no tier I titles

:tape:

Cakeisgood
Jan 20th, 2009, 03:48 AM
But they should, :devil: :rolls:

I wish I knew whether you were joking. haha

Tennisstar86
Jan 20th, 2009, 03:50 AM
Do your research before posting. She's won 4.

And I don't get this whole undeserving thing. She's made a final and gave Ree a hell of a ride. Last year, she won a huge haul of titles.

She's not the best player out there, but her consistency and tenacity for tennis is unparalleled. That is why she is Number 1.

She's not my favorite, and if she's not yours, deal with it. Points don't come off for an "undeserving" factor.

Huge Haul?
Titles Won
Jelena: 4
Serena: 4
Safina: 4
Venus: 3
Maria: 3
Dementieva: 3
Ivanovic:3

apparently they were just passing out "huge hauls" last year....

Someone put the stats up Jelena ended #1 with the least amount of titles then any previous year end #1

MagicMilan
Jan 20th, 2009, 06:50 AM
Huge Haul?
Titles Won
Jelena: 4
Serena: 4
Safina: 4
Venus: 3
Maria: 3
Dementieva: 3
Ivanovic:3

apparently they were just passing out "huge hauls" last year....

Someone put the stats up Jelena ended #1 with the least amount of titles then any previous year end #1
Well, if Serena ended the year no.1, she would also have been the one with the least amount of titles then any previous year end #1

MagicMilan
Jan 20th, 2009, 06:51 AM
:lol: I'm sorry, its been 3 months since Jelena won a title.....
Even more since Serena last won a title :wavey:

ivanban
Jan 20th, 2009, 07:29 AM
Well, if Serena ended the year no.1, she would also have been the one with the least amount of titles then any previous year end #1

Even more since Serena last won a title :wavey:

:lol: priceless :rolls:

ivanban
Jan 20th, 2009, 07:44 AM
:lol: I'm sorry, its been 3 months since Jelena won a title.....

Hmmm, strange.....I thought there was the off-season in most of that 3 moths period :scratch:

Not to mention what kind of title that was and what kind of "competition" she faced, :rolleyes:

Hmmm, strange.....I thought Ree was in Stuttgart (where JJ won the title) along with other 7 top10 players (Vee included, too) :scratch: Plus, in Moscow (where JJ also won title) played 7 of top10 players :scratch:

That sounds like good competition to me :shrug:

Huge Haul?
Titles Won
Jelena: 4
Serena: 4
Safina: 4
Venus: 3
Maria: 3
Dementieva: 3
Ivanovic:3

apparently they were just passing out "huge hauls" last year....

Someone put the stats up Jelena ended #1 with the least amount of titles then any previous year end #1

Hmmm, strange....I see all top 3 players winning same (least) amount of titles :scratch:

V's a star
Jan 20th, 2009, 07:50 AM
Well, if Serena ended the year no.1, she would also have been the one with the least amount of titles then any previous year end #1

are u INSANE she won two of the biggest titles on the tour :tape:
GOD i hate defending Serena but i jus got to in these cases:weirdo:

pav
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:09 AM
If JJ was born in the USA these same comentators and "experts" would be jingoing her up saying she was a derserved #1

bandabou
Jan 20th, 2009, 08:28 AM
Let it goo...someone has to be the no.1 player, just for seeding purposes already. Plus last year, nobody really stood out. Yeah Serena won miami and the Open..but still: if 4 titles are weak for Jelena, it's weak for Serena too then no?! We should just worry about the majors right now..at this stage of Serena's career: it's all about building a legacy.

Branimir
Jan 20th, 2009, 11:08 AM
I am big Jelena fan, and I don't think she is the best player in the World, that said she still deserves to be number 1, because she is definitely the most consistent player. Usually the best player is the number 1 player, but not this time, but who is the best player? Williams sister? Sharapova? Safina? Dementieva?

That other BS how she doesn't act like number 1, walk like number 1, dresses, eats, tie her shoes etc like number 1 is just one big BS. Is there a handbook how number 1 should behave?

MagicMilan
Jan 20th, 2009, 12:44 PM
are u INSANE she won two of the biggest titles on the tour :tape:
GOD i hate defending Serena but i jus got to in these cases:weirdo:
:rolleyes:
The person was implying that 4 titles is bad for YE no.1. I wasn't even bashing Serena, just saying that the number of titles isn't that important and doesn't define a "successful year". It's what titles you have under your belt. Serena won more imporant titles than JJ, that's for sure.

InsideOut.
Jan 20th, 2009, 12:50 PM
I'm not even a Jankovic fan but I do feel sorry for her. Turning her career around after 10 straight losses and fighting through deep into Grand Slam draws, breaking into the top 3 barely a year after her horrible losing streak, a love of the game, and a nice feel of the court should at least by recognized by these biased commentators IMO. Poor Jelena :hug:

And I don't even like her. :o

Brena
Jan 20th, 2009, 12:56 PM
The ESPN commnetators can kiss JJ's green, Anta-clad butt.

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 20th, 2009, 01:42 PM
Let it goo...someone has to be the no.1 player, just for seeding purposes already. Plus last year, nobody really stood out. Yeah Serena won miami and the Open..but still: if 4 titles are weak for Jelena, it's weak for Serena too then no?! We should just worry about the majors right now..at this stage of Serena's career: it's all about building a legacy.

:worship:

Serenita
Jan 20th, 2009, 02:24 PM
The ESPN commnetators can kiss JJ's green, Anta-clad butt.
:lol:

Groenefelder25
Jan 20th, 2009, 03:38 PM
jelena is no.1 :hearts: let people get wound up by that, its amusing.

SM
Jan 20th, 2009, 03:44 PM
Because she is not the number 1 player in the world. Number 1 means you are the best player in the world. It's not even about winning a grand slam, its about the fact that she is clearly weaker than both Williams sisters. Not just that, but even if she went up against Ivanovic, I'd favor Ivanovic even if she is in a poor slump.

:rolleyes:
i saw them both play live in person two days ago in their first rounds.

jelena would have beaten ana like 1 and 1

janksta
Jan 20th, 2009, 04:14 PM
The computer doesnt lie! She is number one and thats it! There are no rules that say you have to win a grandslam to be number one! Kim Clijters and Amelie become number one before winning a slam also and no one seems to say a thing about that????


hmm...at least kim and amelie actually reached a slam final before they first reached number 1...

comfortably.numb
Jan 20th, 2009, 04:16 PM
I love Jelena. If you're not getting bashed you aren't doing well. She must be doing something right. I don't mind her being number 1. Honestly, I can't think of anyone else that deserves it more than her right now. Based on consistency alone.

Lucemferre
Jan 20th, 2009, 04:21 PM
I am big Jelena fan, and I don't think she is the best player in the World, that said she still deserves to be number 1, because she is definitely the most consistent player. Usually the best player is the number 1 player, but not this time, but who is the best player? Williams sister? Sharapova? Safina? Dementieva?

That other BS how she doesn't act like number 1, walk like number 1, dresses, eats, tie her shoes etc like number 1 is just one big BS. Is there a handbook how number 1 should behave?

Easy question. Serena Williams.

Tennisstar86
Jan 20th, 2009, 11:06 PM
:rolleyes:
The person was implying that 4 titles is bad for YE no.1. I wasn't even bashing Serena, just saying that the number of titles isn't that important and doesn't define a "successful year". It's what titles you have under your belt. Serena won more imporant titles than JJ, that's for sure.

Thats not what i was implying though :rolleyes:......The poster i replied to was saying how JJ is the ""Best" player in the world right now" i merely stated that She hadnt won a title in 3 months.... so you cant say "shes" the best player in the world especially considering shes lost 3 times since then.....

Then some fool said she won a huge haul of titles. also wrong. a huge haul is like in 2000 when hingis was #1 without a slam but she was holding 9 titles.... not 4...iI'm sorry, but as "consistent" as everyone keeps claiming Jelena was...she should have more than 4 titles...unless you want to mean she was consistent in losing.... cause I'll c-sign that one

Steffica Greles
Jan 20th, 2009, 11:26 PM
She doesn't, it's true.

But then, neither does Serena, who looks like a tub of lard and has done for four years now.

Cakeisgood
Jan 21st, 2009, 02:32 AM
:rolleyes:
The person was implying that 4 titles is bad for YE no.1. I wasn't even bashing Serena, just saying that the number of titles isn't that important and doesn't define a "successful year". It's what titles you have under your belt. Serena won more imporant titles than JJ, that's for sure.

:lol:

Seyz
Jan 21st, 2009, 04:29 AM
JJ should have won the French Open last year, but she lost to Ivanovic when she was the favorite to take the title. Please don't let them happen again.

barboza
Jan 21st, 2009, 05:16 AM
That interview was hilarious. Love Chris for grilling her.

karimcartoon
Jan 21st, 2009, 05:19 AM
That interview was hilarious. Love Chris for grilling her.

He's an annoying SOB. He's mean to Brad Gilbert who is pretty cool. I also see him doing college football and I'm like "Just shut up dude" in my head. He's annoying- he knows nothing, you could hire an average tennis fan and he/she'd be more entertaining than him. I can't believe he's getting paid to do this.

saul1333
Jan 21st, 2009, 05:32 AM
i dont know. whenever darren gives those trivia questions chris is usually on top of it. he does take alot of shots at bg but they are pretty funny bc he usually asks for them.

Tennisstar86
Jan 21st, 2009, 05:36 AM
He's an annoying SOB. He's mean to Brad Gilbert who is pretty cool. I also see him doing college football and I'm like "Just shut up dude" in my head. He's annoying- he knows nothing, you could hire an average tennis fan and he/she'd be more entertaining than him. I can't believe he's getting paid to do this.

Brad Gilbert a cool guy? :tape: please..... Brad's the biggest ass as a commentator. the only one worse than him is Justin Gimblestob

karimcartoon
Jan 21st, 2009, 05:39 AM
Brad Gilbert a cool guy? :tape: please..... Brad's the biggest ass as a commentator. the only one worse than him is Justin Gimblestob

I agree Brad and Justin are alike but Brad has some good insight, he's a great coach and player, he's definitely funny and he's not dramatic as much but yeah I can see why you'd think he's kind of like Justin Gimblestob. But Justin Gimblestob just tries to be funny and he's an idiot so yeah.

cellophane
Jan 21st, 2009, 05:54 AM
ESPN really need to let it go. It's getting OLD.

rjd1111
Jan 21st, 2009, 06:47 AM
Update:

Chris Fowler asked JJ on ESPN what she thought of her position as No.1 and without a Slam. Then she replied, "you know I worked hard to get it. I didn't buy the ranking, it didn't fall from the sky.. Some people have won a Grand Slam and they didn't reach No.1. And if I win 4 Grand Slams people are going to ask me why I am not winning 10, 25. :tape:"

-----

The Jelena Jankovic bashing is a bit ridiculous. I just can't believe that the commentators on ESPN - virtually all of them - are saying JJ doesn't deserve, look or act like a No.1. Why can't they instill the fact that it doesn't take someone to win a Grand Slam to be the top player?

She's the No 1 ranked player, Not the Top Player

rjd1111
Jan 21st, 2009, 06:48 AM
Their not directly saying it, but they might aswell. She played, and won enough times to gain the necessary points to be the best player in the world. She's got to be doing something right. Also, because these so called analyst and so blinded by their love for the Williams sisters, they can't digest the idea of someone esle being better then Venus and Serena are. I do agree, if they were 100% commited to the game (seeming less and less likely) they would be number one and two in the world.

Once again, She's the No 1 ranked player,
Not the best Player.

rjd1111
Jan 21st, 2009, 06:53 AM
at that time WS fans would do the Slam count.

You're right.

Serena...........9 Slams

Venus............7 Slams

JJ...............0 Slams

Just Do It
Jan 21st, 2009, 07:33 AM
Chris Fowler asked JJ on ESPN what she thought of her position as No.1 and without a Slam. Then she replied, "you know I worked hard to get it. I didn't buy the ranking, it didn't fall from the sky.. Some people have won a Grand Slam and they didn't reach No.1. And if I win 4 Grand Slams people are going to ask me why I am not winning 10, 25. "

:bowdown:

morningglory
Jan 21st, 2009, 07:46 AM
:haha: Sure, she's number 1: the points say so good for her.

Her reply however, should've been more humble.

BUT ABOVE ALL the part about what if she won FOUR slams???? 4???? :rolls: I dont think she has to worry about that...
Jelena, let's not get ahead of ourselves shall we? I dont think you will ever have what it takes to surpass Maria, Lindsay and Jennifer. In fact, Id be very surprised if you managed to win more than 1.

Pasta-Na
Jan 21st, 2009, 07:51 AM
If JJ was born in the USA these same comentators and "experts" would be jingoing her up saying she was a derserved #1

so true :p

hwanmig
Jan 21st, 2009, 07:58 AM
If she's ever gonna win a GS she better not dwell on what these hasbeens have to say.

InsideOut.
Jan 21st, 2009, 08:48 AM
JJ should have won the French Open last year, but she lost to Ivanovic when she was the favorite to take the title. Please don't let them happen again.

No she was not.

Philip
Jan 21st, 2009, 10:50 AM
eurosport said that she deserved the number one, think it was frew mcmillan. i agree with him, it happened on the mens side and there wasnt this much hoo-ha.

you stick up for yourseld jelena :yeah:

fufuqifuqishahah
Jan 21st, 2009, 10:57 AM
:haha: Sure, she's number 1: the points say so good for her.

Her reply however, should've been more humble.

BUT ABOVE ALL the part about what if she won FOUR slams???? 4???? :rolls: I dont think she has to worry about that...
Jelena, let's not get ahead of ourselves shall we? I dont think you will ever have what it takes to surpass Maria, Lindsay and Jennifer. In fact, Id be very surprised if you managed to win more than 1.

you are getting all worked up over nothing :kiss:

Sharapova's_Boy
Jan 21st, 2009, 11:04 AM
Jelena :worship:

BuTtErFrEnA
Jan 21st, 2009, 11:22 AM
No she was not.

:lol: i was saying WHAT?? :lol:

дalex
Jan 21st, 2009, 11:37 AM
Chris Fowler luvz JJ. I still remember some of the interviews they had last year, they were brilliant. The guy literally worships her! Also, it seems JJ really likes talking to him.

Temporary0369
Jan 21st, 2009, 11:42 AM
Why was Safina considered the girl to beat for almost all of 2008 when she played more tournaments than Jelena, had worse results in the slams, won just as many titles, and had fewer top 10 wins? People were calling her the "true number one" of the WTA and rooting for her against Jelena so that she could "save the WTA".

What's the difference between a number one player and Ivanovic, Kuznetsova, Zvonareva, Safina, and the rest of the top 10 excluding Williamspova? She can play injured, play badly, still hit more winners than errors, and win.

She is number one. It's black and white.

Brena
Jan 21st, 2009, 11:43 AM
So JJ can do a normal interview after all. :)

Temporary0369
Jan 21st, 2009, 11:43 AM
And anyone else notice that her taytas are HUGE these days?

Ellery
Jan 21st, 2009, 11:51 AM
Jelena :worship:

InsideOut.
Jan 21st, 2009, 03:43 PM
I have a problem about her statement though...sure it didn't fall from the sky; that's why you have to buy it right? :scratch:

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 21st, 2009, 03:51 PM
She has taken away all that 'oomph' from WTA with her whining ,crying and fake injuries


If people wanted to see a whiney crying git who constantly complains about her countless injuries, they would've gone a to a cheap stage show under a deli shop

Despite her whiney, fake personality , some people say she is a freash breath for the WTA, instead she is a damp poo smell from a public toilet.

UDACHi
Jan 21st, 2009, 03:56 PM
thank god she stuck to her guns. she works hard just like everyone else for that ranking and if nobody else can get as many points as her, then great for her.

Optima
Jan 21st, 2009, 03:57 PM
She has taken away all that 'oomph' from WTA with her whining ,crying and fake injuries


If people wanted to see a whiney crying git who constantly complains about her countless injuries, they would've gone a to a cheap stage show under a deli shop

Despite her whiney, fake personality , some people say she is a freash breath for the WTA, instead she is a damp poo smell from a public toilet.

I'd rather be a damp poo smell from a public toilet than a Reetard.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 21st, 2009, 03:59 PM
I'd rather be a damp poo smell from a public toilet than a Reetard.

Funny thing is, all the Jelena fans can do is do personal attack on me instead of defending your favourite like calling me girly, barely a boy etc. :haha:

too bad you guys have no defense for Jelena ;)

Slutiana
Jan 21st, 2009, 04:02 PM
No, but Justine dropped it on the floor for anybody to fetch it. Of course it had to be her bitch Jelena who did.

Optima
Jan 21st, 2009, 04:06 PM
Funny thing is, all the Jelena fans can do is do personal attack on me instead of defending your favourite like calling me girly, barely a boy etc. :haha:

too bad you guys have no defense for Jelena ;)

I've came to the conclusion that it doesn't matter if we defend Jelena, you'll always hate on her no matter what she does; I don't call you girly, barely a boy, etc, so I can't say anything about that, but maybe you wouldn't be harassed if you didn't say stupid shit all the time. We. know. you. hate. Jelena. Now move on.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 21st, 2009, 04:08 PM
I've came to the conclusion that it doesn't matter if we defend Jelena, you'll always hate on her no matter what she does; I don't call you girly, barely a boy, etc, so I can't say anything about that, but maybe you wouldn't be harassed if you didn't say stupid shit all the time. We. know. you. hate. Jelena. Now move on.


Theres a difference, People will always critisize celebrities (especially the annoying whiney ones like Jelena and the champions like Williams), thats one of the price of being famous :shrug:

LDVTennis
Jan 21st, 2009, 04:11 PM
She doesn't, it's true.

But then, neither does Serena, who looks like a tub of lard and has done for four years now.

Ah, therein lies the problem.

Even with her slams, how much more convincing a number 1 would Serena make? There's a photo somewhere of her jumping into the air after winning the '08 US Open. If tubs of lard could fly, indeed. The WTA should find the photographer who shot that picture and break his camera.

At least Jankovic looks more the part even if she doesn't have the major title yet. Plus, she's been acting like a No. 1 player in the most important way possible. By playing all those tournaments, she's been supporting the tour.

There was a time not so long ago when the No. 1 Player looked the part, meaning was no "tub of lard," won major titles (sometimes all four), and played at least 60 matches a year. Those were the days.

Optima
Jan 21st, 2009, 04:13 PM
Theres a difference, People will always critisize celebrities (especially the annoying whiney ones like Jelena and the champions like Williams), thats one of the price of being famous :shrug:

There's a difference though; you can chose to be classy and intelligent, or spread more hate (God knows there's enough of that already in the world) and come off as sounding bitter because all you do is complain about someone you don't even know. I at least respect the people I don't enjoy.

VishaalMaria
Jan 21st, 2009, 04:16 PM
Jelena is right; it's not like she bought the number one ranking or actively stole it off someone. Jelena did what any other player does on the tour- play matches, play tournaments; the amount of matches and tournaments? That's the players perrogative. If anything, Jelena shouldn't get critized it should be the ranking system. The ranking system favours quantity over quality, Jelena just likes tennis.

Anyone who isn't a hater can see that it's only a matter of time before Jelena wins a slam, and I really hope things work out for her.

kwilliams
Jan 21st, 2009, 04:16 PM
^^^ Are you actually making an argument that a number one should look the part, rather than be the part - looks over ability?

If the elephant woman was the greatest champion ever known then she would be a fitting number one. Looks have nothing to do with it. If Serena is slightly overweight and still wins slams, that's all the better and inspiring for anyone who isn't completely fit or doesn't have the perfect body.

Also that was just a bad picture...people don't always look as good in motion! :lol:

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 21st, 2009, 04:20 PM
There's a difference though; you can chose to be classy and intelligent, or spread more hate (God knows there's enough of that already in the world) and come off as sounding bitter because all you do is complain about someone you don't even know. I at least respect the people I don't enjoy.

People have to earn respect, and I do respect all the people I dislike except Jelena with all her whining , lying, cheating and making fun of the people who are dead :shrug:

Il Primo!
Jan 21st, 2009, 04:22 PM
It's getting odd. You should thank God Jelena's playing otherwise the WTA would be a snoozefest. Okay, she's getting annoying, corny and dramatic personality wise but word is that her game is on point and improving. If she wasn't a threat to your favs, you wouldn't give a flying f*ck of her.

Cut the girl some slack for God's sake. Duh

Optima
Jan 21st, 2009, 04:24 PM
People have to earn respect, and I do respect all the people I dislike except Jelena with all her whining , lying, cheating and making fun of the people who are dead :shrug:

You totally missed my point. Oh well.

Infiniti2001
Jan 21st, 2009, 04:26 PM
Momo, Kim and even Lindsay got flack for not holding a slam while being #1 . Why shouldn't jelena get her share?

Marionated
Jan 21st, 2009, 04:39 PM
Momo, Kim and even Lindsay got flack for not holding a slam while being #1 . Why shouldn't jelena get her share?

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Vlover
Jan 21st, 2009, 04:58 PM
Ah, therein lies the problem.
Even with her slams, how much more convincing a number 1 would Serena make? There's a photo somewhere of her jumping into the air after winning the '08 US Open.

As one of the so called "tennis fans", when in tennis you were required to look a certain part to be #1.:rolleyes: Only people of your ilk were obviously upset when Serena held the USO trophy and pose for those lovely pictures in time square. At least Serena has the trophies to justify her #1 status.:tape: At least her fans are not psychotic and going around stabbing people so she can be #1.:tape:

debby
Jan 21st, 2009, 05:05 PM
Enough of all that bashing :help:

Kim Clijsters was number one in 2003 without any Slam whereas Justine had two and one semifinal in three Slams... :help: And now, what did you guys remember ? You remember Kim has won her only Slam in New York, after have sweeping the hardcourt season ...

I find it funny you bash Jelena but who else ?
Ana is slumping since the French Open, Safina/Dementieva would be worse for you, Serena and Venus only play the mandatory events (if they play a bit more and also better on clay, I am sure they would be N°1 and N°2 at the moment... ) , and I don't even talk about the others top-tneners :help:

Olórin
Jan 21st, 2009, 05:15 PM
The comments from Steffica and LDV :lol:

Two people whose interested in tennis peaked in the 90's, still posting on a crazy message board, during this era of 'inferior tennis', superficially commenting on the looks of certain atheletes. This is the strangest thing of all. Why do either of you even post? You quite blatantly hate women's tennis right now. Clearly too much spare time on your hands.

Pointless comments from pointless posters.

G1Player2
Jan 21st, 2009, 05:17 PM
She doesn't, it's true.

But then, neither does Serena, who looks like a tub of lard and has done for four years now.

You're a moron. Tub of lards don't win Grand Slams. If you don't believe me, ask your fave Monica Seles. :rolleyes: She never got herself to be fit again after the stabbing. And your other fave, Steffi? She's great, sure, but Serena was able to win her slams without her main rivals getting stabbed in the back. :wavey:

AcesHigh
Jan 21st, 2009, 05:18 PM
Kim had 9 titles in 2003 including 2 Tier I's and YEC and her slam record was SF, F, SF, F. She was not the best player, but she was a dominant force. Even then, she wasnt #1 for very long.

Mauresmo was only #1 for a few weeks.. 5 or 6.

So I dont get the comparison.. especially since Jelena is not the kind of caliber these two players were.

G1Player2
Jan 21st, 2009, 05:20 PM
The comments from Steffica and LDV :lol:

Two people whose interested in tennis peaked in the 90's, still posting on a crazy message board, during this era of 'inferior tennis', superficially commenting on the looks of certain atheletes. This is the strangest thing of all. Why do either of you even post? You quite blatantly hate women's tennis right now. Clearly too much spare time on your hands.

Pointless comments from pointless posters.

Steffica Greles is just mad that Serena is still contending for slams after a serious knee surgery and family tragedies, while Seles failed to even come CLOSE to contending for slams or being a Top 5 player after coming back from the stabbing.

LDVtennis is mad because Serena is still winning and contending for slams without her chief rivals getting stabbed in the back. ;)

G1Player2
Jan 21st, 2009, 05:21 PM
Kim had 9 titles in 2003 including 2 Tier I's and YEC and her slam record was SF, F, SF, F. She was not the best player, but she was a dominant force. Even then, she wasnt #1 for very long.

Mauresmo was only #1 for a few weeks.. 5 or 6.

So I dont get the comparison.. especially since Jelena is not the kind of caliber these two players were.

Also, didn't Kim Clijsters have the record for most wins in a season that year? She was close to 100 wins, I do know that.

Olórin
Jan 21st, 2009, 05:32 PM
LDVtennis is mad because Serena is still winning and contending for slams without her chief rivals getting stabbed in the back. ;)

LDVtennis is a little mad in the psychiatrical sense imo. The most fanatical fan of any player on the board if you ask me. If you're name isn't Steffi Graf prepare yourself for a life time of scrutiny and being thrown five podiums down from Steffi's Golden Throne.

G1Player2
Jan 21st, 2009, 05:37 PM
LDVtennis is a little mad in the psychiatrical sense imo. The most fanatical fan of any player on the board if you ask me. If you're name isn't Steffi Graf prepare yourself for a life time of scrutiny and being thrown five podiums down from Steffi's Golden Throne.

I think he's more obsessed with Serena honestly. :shrug: You will find him and other haters in Serena threads constantly now, especially when she is winning. :lol: Now that Serena won the USOpen, with a tough draw AND without dropping a set, they are still trying to mak excuses for that win by saying she was fat. If a tub of lard Serena was able to win the USOPen, then what does this say about the No.1 Jelena Jankovic, who Serena beat in straights in the final?

sweetpeas
Jan 21st, 2009, 06:49 PM
j.j will win a slam!I f not this one,the french!I like J.J.

Vlover
Jan 21st, 2009, 06:49 PM
The comments from Steffica and LDV :lol:
Why do either of you even post? You quite blatantly hate women's tennis right now. Clearly too much spare time on your hands.


I guess they want to be considered "fans" of tennis and not just fans of a certain player as they love to characterize WS fans.:lol: At least they are still relevant enough to be hated.:D

Olórin
Jan 21st, 2009, 06:50 PM
I think he's more obsessed with Serena honestly. :shrug: You will find him and other haters in Serena threads constantly now, especially when she is winning. :lol: Now that Serena won the USOpen, with a tough draw AND without dropping a set, they are still trying to mak excuses for that win by saying she was fat. If a tub of lard Serena was able to win the USOPen, then what does this say about the No.1 Jelena Jankovic, who Serena beat in straights in the final?

Oh yes, he obviously hates both the WS. Strange obssession.

Olórin
Jan 21st, 2009, 06:52 PM
I guess they want to be considered "fans" of tennis and not just fans of a certain player as they love to characterize WS fans.:lol: At least they are still relevant enough to be hated.:D

This is true. But also perplexing seeing as both obviously hate the current game :lol:

G1Player2
Jan 21st, 2009, 06:52 PM
Oh yes, he obviously hates both the WS. Strange obssession.

Well, considering what he has said in the past on other topics, particularly about race, I think we know why he hates them both. ;)

OsloErik
Jan 21st, 2009, 06:53 PM
Kim had 9 titles in 2003 including 2 Tier I's and YEC and her slam record was SF, F, SF, F. She was not the best player, but she was a dominant force. Even then, she wasnt #1 for very long.

So I dont get the comparison.. especially since Jelena is not the kind of caliber these two players were.

BUT, she's also not competing with anyone of the same caliber as Serena 2003 and Henin 2003. When Clijsters hit #1, there were two other players with multiple slams on their rankings. She played in a year with two players with markedly superior results. Which players can we honestly say have "markedly superior" results? Serena is the only one even close, and she crashed out of two slams (AO 2008 and FO 2008) before the SF. It's just not the same season as it was in 2003. And it's worth pointing out that if Serena wins the AO, she's #1. And justifiably so. But there really is no one player who you can demonstrably prove has consistently superior results; all of them have a case, but none have a strong case. Nobody had enough consistency of excellence; Venus had 3 weeks, Serena 4, Ivanovic 3...there's nobody with enough of that caliber to challenge Jelena's quantity of almost-#1 quality results. The ranking system really isn't that flawed; there's just nobody playing right now with enough chutzpah to hijack the top spot from Jankovic. It's a tour of gutless players who can't stomach playing more than 15 tournaments a year without looking like shite, and they don't deserve to be #1 just because four of them can produce two weeks of superior tennis. 44 weeks out of the year, Jankovic has been better than everyone, and PLAYED the events that win you points. Nobody else played as many Tier I events as Jankovic, and she's not even the most frequent player in the top 10. She's not even top 50% in the top 20. If the other players are simply incapable of playing Tier I events and skipping out on Tier IIIs in India or the USA for huge paychecks, they don't deserve the points at stake.

I'd be all aboard giving another player the top ranking if they really deserved it, but nobody else deserves it.

OsloErik
Jan 21st, 2009, 06:56 PM
What really baffles me about all this Jankovic bashing is that none of the commentators is chastising the other players for not bringing it. As far as I can see it, if you don't think Jankovic deserves the top ranking you have to have an alternative, and that begs the question "Why isn't she there already?" And frankly, I'd be very disappointed in MY pick for #1 if she is simply incapable of getting to #1. I'd be pissed at the Serena, Ivanovic, Sharapova trifecta that really could be at #1 but haven't done the hard work it takes to get there and stay there. Slams are the ultimate counter of all things on tour, but if you're only winning one out of four, you need other things to get to #1. And the absolute gutlessness of these players is mind boggling.

Vlover
Jan 21st, 2009, 07:02 PM
Well, considering what he has said in the past on other topics, particularly about race, I think we know why he hates them both. ;)
Thank goodness those sorts seem to be diminishing and have less power available to them so the world can be a better place.

Olórin
Jan 21st, 2009, 07:07 PM
Well, considering what he has said in the past on other topics, particularly about race, I think we know why he hates them both. ;)

Well I'm just fed up of a handful of vitriolic posters dragging Serena or Venus or their fans into almost every possible thread in a negative way. It's so pointless and ruins the board for everyone.

doni1212
Jan 21st, 2009, 07:10 PM
Please tell me there is a video of her saying that somewhere. I have to see her try to defend herself, :lol:

debopero
Jan 21st, 2009, 07:18 PM
poor jelena

Warrior
Jan 21st, 2009, 07:23 PM
Davenport once finished a year at #1 without winning a GS. But that time no one bashed her. I don't even recall commentators mentioning that she did win a slam that year.

дalex
Jan 21st, 2009, 07:25 PM
Please tell me there is a video of her saying that somewhere. I have to see her try to defend herself, :lol:

Anything for you, babygurl. Enjoy...:kiss:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3848266

debopero
Jan 21st, 2009, 07:26 PM
it probably torments her

LefandePatty
Jan 21st, 2009, 07:31 PM
:rolls: Jelena:hearts:

doni1212
Jan 21st, 2009, 07:34 PM
Anything for you, babygurl. Enjoy...:kiss:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3848266

:rolls: Thanks, Alex, :lol:
Well, she sounds like she convinced herself that it's ok that she doesn't have a grandslam. She said a lot of delusional things in that vid...

дalex
Jan 21st, 2009, 07:42 PM
Well, she sounds like she convinced herself that it's ok that she doesn't have a grandslam. She said a lot of delusional things in that vid...

Didn't she say that she would say "In your face, Mary Carillo!" when she accepts the trophy for winning AO 2009? She didn't phrase it exactly like that, but that's what she meant anyway...:rolls:

The best player in the world is not delusional! Nor are her fans who believe that there hasn't ever been sexier, more entertaining and more talented #1 player in the world than Jelena. :drool:

homogenius
Jan 21st, 2009, 07:56 PM
Funny thing is, all the Jelena fans can do is do personal attack on me instead of defending your favourite like calling me girly, barely a boy etc. :haha:

too bad you guys have no defense for Jelena ;)

Maybe it's because your posts deserve nothing more than that.What you're doing is spreading hate on Jelena based on her physical apparence, supposedly fake personality...I can't even call that criticism and it has nothing to do with her status as n°1, so there's nothing really to defend.

I must say that despite being a reetard, you used to be funny.Sadly your unhealthy obsession with Jelena and the level of hate this girl inspires to you (your posts about putting some acid on her face etc...)just makes you looks like a creepy little boy who grew up with a poster of Gunther Parche in his room.

VishaalMaria
Jan 21st, 2009, 07:57 PM
Maybe it's because your posts deserve nothing more than that.What you're doing is spreading hate on Jelena based on her physical apparence, supposedly fake personality...I can't even call that criticism and it has nothing to do with her status as n°1, so there's nothing really to defend.

I must say that despite being a reetard, you used to be funny.Sadly your unhealthy obsession with Jelena and the level of hate this girl inspires to you (your posts about putting some acid on her face etc...)just makes you looks like a creepy little boy who grew up with a poster of Gunther Parche in his room.

OWNED!

G1Player2
Jan 21st, 2009, 07:58 PM
Maybe it's because your posts deserve nothing more than that.What you're doing is spreading hate on Jelena based on her physical apparence, supposedly fake personality...I can't even call that criticism and it has nothing to do with her status as n°1, so there's nothing really to defend.

I must say that despite being a reetard, you used to be funny.Sadly your unhealthy obsession with Jelena and the level of hate this girl inspires to you (your posts about putting some acid on her face etc...)just makes you looks like a creepy little boy who grew up with a poster of Gunther Parche in his room.

You're the one to talk. :rolleyes: How is this different than your obsession with Serena? You go in live threads and post whenever Serena plays a match rooting for an opponent you don't care for as long as she beats Serena.

OsloErik
Jan 21st, 2009, 08:10 PM
Well, she sounds like she convinced herself that it's ok that she doesn't have a grandslam. She said a lot of delusional things in that vid...

What did she say that's so delusional? She IS the #1 player in the world, every tennis player WANTS to be #1 in the world...I can't find much of anything that's delusional in her interview at all. And she's right that people always criticize you, no matter how much you've won. Look at Serena. Look at Steffi Graf. There's nothing you can do to appease all the critics, and she's got a very healthy outlook on the situation. And she's right; other players have hit #1 without winning a major. Several players have BEEN #1 without having a slam title on their rankings. I still don't see why people act like SHE'S the joke when there are four other players that have simply proved incapable of making a serious assault on the top ranking, in SPITE of having slam titles on their ranking.

homogenius
Jan 21st, 2009, 08:23 PM
You're the one to talk. :rolleyes: How is this different than your obsession with Serena? You go in live threads and post whenever Serena plays a match rooting for an opponent you don't care for as long as she beats Serena.

:lol: I'm in the livethread for a lot of matches not only for Serena's ones.And yes it's true I generally root for the underdog (and not just when Serena is playing lol)cause I want to watch a match and a fight and these girls needs the win more than the top players.
As I said before, stop being so parano.

Dodoboy.
Jan 21st, 2009, 08:37 PM
Have y;all seen this?

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Vaidisova Ruled
Jan 21st, 2009, 08:41 PM
:rolls: Thanks, Alex, :lol:
Well, she sounds like she convinced herself that it's ok that she doesn't have a grandslam. She said a lot of delusional things in that vid...
What did she say?

I think she was great, and funny at the end

Dodoboy.
Jan 21st, 2009, 08:42 PM
II loved the way she handled that, a lot of class there. She is young, we forget that sometimes.

homogenius
Jan 21st, 2009, 09:22 PM
Have y;all seen this?

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Thanks for posting it.
Good interview.She's down to earth and handle the questions about the n°1 thing very well imo.

ninanina19
Jan 21st, 2009, 09:36 PM
Funny that none of you JJ fans see it but every analyst on espn and many other telecasts say the exact same thing...

Not saying she is a bad tennis player, just not deserving of the #1 ranking! :help:

She deserves the number 1 ranking. She was consistent enough to get it. Whether or not she is the best player in the world is a different story. I didn't think that Sharapova was the best player when she held the number 1 ranking in 2005, I didn't think Ivanovic was the best player when she held the ranking earlier this year even though she won a slam, and I don't think Jelena is the best player right now. But she deserves the number 1 ranking. Yes she played more tournaments than the Williams sisters but it's not like she played 30. I personally agree than Venus and Serena are better players than her but I hate how people bitch about her holding the number 1 ranking. Ranking obviously doesn't matter.

HippityHop
Jan 21st, 2009, 09:51 PM
wrong. When she wins 1, it will be "why havent you won 4?" when she wins 4, it's "why haven't you won 10?" << as Jelena rightly said in her interview.

Their is always something in tennis people find to moan about, always *something* players haven't done.

Well, people ask why hasn't Venus won Australia and why hasn't she won more than two USOpens. It comes with the territory. Deal with it.

RJWCapriati
Jan 21st, 2009, 09:51 PM
I think its a bit ridiculous and I love the way Jelena defended herself......she is exactly right......

HippityHop
Jan 21st, 2009, 10:00 PM
Momo, Kim and even Lindsay got flack for not holding a slam while being #1 . Why shouldn't jelena get her share?

And Hingis got flack for being number one without holding current slams and she had won several.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 21st, 2009, 10:35 PM
Have y;all seen this?

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OMG she is so delusional :haha: :rolls:

Collective
Jan 21st, 2009, 10:45 PM
Well she's right... she's not to blame... she goes out, outpushes opponents, plays a ridiculously high amount of tournaments, loses the big matches and the system rewards her with the #1.

terjw
Jan 21st, 2009, 10:48 PM
What really baffles me about all this Jankovic bashing is that none of the commentators is chastising the other players for not bringing it. As far as I can see it, if you don't think Jankovic deserves the top ranking you have to have an alternative, and that begs the question "Why isn't she there already?" And frankly, I'd be very disappointed in MY pick for #1 if she is simply incapable of getting to #1. I'd be pissed at the Serena, Ivanovic, Sharapova trifecta that really could be at #1 but haven't done the hard work it takes to get there and stay there. Slams are the ultimate counter of all things on tour, but if you're only winning one out of four, you need other things to get to #1. And the absolute gutlessness of these players is mind boggling.

:worship::worship::worship: Brilliant post. Jelena worked hard for it - and the slam winners even with their big advantage of 1000 points - 2000 now - simply weren't good enough and didn't put in the hard work needed to get to #1.

The other thing - Jelena is #1 and was the best player over the whole of the last year. Sure there are players who at their best are better than Jelena at her best - but they don't keep that standard up for long enough. We don't say the winner of a marathon race is not the true #1 because she's not the fastest runner and would get beaten in a 100 meter race.

Shafanovic.
Jan 21st, 2009, 10:51 PM
She worked hard for it. Great interview. I have to agree with everything she says there.

RenaSlam.
Jan 21st, 2009, 10:51 PM
You're right, Jelena.

Aaron.
Jan 21st, 2009, 10:52 PM
:worship::worship::worship: Brilliant post. Jelena worked hard for it - and the slam winners even with their big advantage of 1000 points - 2000 now - simply weren't good enough and didn't put in the hard work needed to get to #1.

The other thing - Jelena is #1 and was the best player over the whole of the last year. Sure there are players who at their best are better than Jelena at her best - but they don't keep that standard up for long enough. We don't say the winner of a marathon race is not the true #1 because she's not the fastest runner and would get beaten in a 100 meter race. NO. Venus and Serena > Jelena 2008. JJ fans are so delusional.

:weirdo:

Collective
Jan 21st, 2009, 10:57 PM
Slams >>>>>>>>>>>> Playing every possible tournament

terjw
Jan 21st, 2009, 11:16 PM
Slams >>>>>>>>>>>> Playing every possible tournament

Jelena did not play every possible tournament. In fact Ana, Serena, Venus & Maria are the exceptions playing so little and falling well short of what they signed up to do in their player committment contracts. Their job in fact. Fine if they are good enough to get #1 without meeting what they are contracted to do - like Justine in 2007. But they simply wen't good enough last year to get to #1 and stay there in 2008.

OsloErik
Jan 22nd, 2009, 12:00 AM
NO. Venus and Serena > Jelena 2008. JJ fans are so delusional.

:weirdo:

5200 of Serena's 8000 or so points were won at four tournaments (Miami, Charleston, Wimbledon, US Open).
4000 of Venus's 6500 or so points were won at three tournaments (Wimbledon, Zurich, YEC).


Would anyone rather have Venus's year or Serena's year? Of course! Slams remain the measuring stick of success. But as has been pointed out SO MANY TIMES, winning a slam does not entitle you to the #1 ranking. Especially when you are winning only 1 out of the 4. There's not a player in 2008 who managed to bring it often enough to justify the top ranking by a mile. There's not a player in 2008 who demonstrated they were clearly superior than Jelena 52 weeks out of the year. If they had, they would be ranked there. If the other players are incapable of playing each Tier I event (there are only 9 of them!) and each slam (only 4!) then they don't deserve the points Jelena earns from playing them and going deep each time.

There's playing every tournament (which 2007 was all about) and playing every BIG tournament (2008). She deserves the #1 ranking, and everyone acting like anyone else deserves it more should be embarrassed that their favorite is too feeble to try for it.

White Angel
Jan 22nd, 2009, 03:59 PM
Yes. We have seen today what a truly champion is Venus Williams for example. She lost in her second round, and Serena was struggling with her overweight, reminding me of a cow on the ice.Sisters were never consistent and a true No1 should be consistent not a winer for two weeks.

SzavayFi
Jan 22nd, 2009, 06:11 PM
The commentators are all fucking dumb.

I think the worst is Carillo, but she is probably too busy licking other girls clits to reallize what she's saying. :rolleyes:

Ciarán
Jan 22nd, 2009, 06:16 PM
:rolleyes:

G1Player2
Jan 23rd, 2009, 02:06 AM
Saw her interview and she is quite deluded.

Ellery
Jan 23rd, 2009, 02:08 AM
You go girl. Jelena :hearts:

MagicMilan
Jan 23rd, 2009, 02:30 AM
Saw her interview and she is quite deluded.
And why is that, can you please explain me?

SelesFan70
Jan 23rd, 2009, 02:32 AM
She handled that douche Chris Fowler quite well. Between him, Manly Carillo, and Brad Gilbert I can barely watch on ESPN here in the United States! Thank god for Mary Jo, Pam Shriver, and Darren Cahill...

G1Player2
Jan 23rd, 2009, 02:34 AM
She handled that douche Chris Fowler quite well. Between him, Manly Carillo, and Brad Gilbert I can barely watch on ESPN here in the United States! Thank god for Mary Jo, Pam Shriver, and Darren Cahill...

There was nothing wrong with what Chris Fowler said. :shrug: His questions were completely fair.

SelesFan70
Jan 23rd, 2009, 03:08 AM
There was nothing wrong with what Chris Fowler said. :shrug: His questions were completely fair.

He's just a douche in general... :o

barboza
May 30th, 2009, 04:34 AM
Jelena on Tennis Channel: I didn't buy the ranking. The ranking didn't fall from the sky!


She also said that she began to dominate the women's tour at the end of last year :tape:

Mikey.
May 30th, 2009, 06:20 AM
Old news much? :speakles:

Matt01
May 30th, 2009, 09:45 AM
Jelena on Tennis Channel: I didn't buy the ranking. The ranking didn't fall from the sky!


She also said that she began to dominate the women's tour at the end of last year :tape:


She won 3 tournaments in a row. She is right.

Patrick345
May 30th, 2009, 10:06 AM
She won 3 tournaments in a row. She is right.

If she only had that form, cause her draw is opening up. Looks like she "only" has to beat Wozniacki and Kuznetsova to get to the final. Probably the easiest path she has ever had, but these days you can´t even trust her to beat Jarmila Groth.

A Magicman
May 30th, 2009, 10:09 AM
If she only had that form, cause her draw is opening up. Looks like she "only" has to beat Wozniacki and Kuznetsova to get to the final. Probably the easiest path she has ever had, but these days you can´t even trust her to beat Jarmila Groth.


The crucial game will be the game against Pushniacki, which I expect to me extremely boring for obvious reasons.

If she wins that, JJ will go all the way to the final. If.

terjw
May 30th, 2009, 10:12 AM
Jelena on Tennis Channel: I didn't buy the ranking. The ranking didn't fall from the sky!


She also said that she began to dominate the women's tour at the end of last year :tape:

If you want to make a point - get what she actually said right instead of lying about it and twisting what she said. She said she thought she began to dominate at the end of last year. She had a purple patch and who doesn't start to think along those lines when that's happening to them. But that's a far cry from claiming she did actually begin to dominate.

Patrick345
May 30th, 2009, 10:20 AM
The crucial game will be the game against Pushniacki, which I expect to me extremely boring for obvious reasons.

If she wins that, JJ will go all the way to the final. If.

I don´t. I think it will be Kuznetsova. Jankovic plays a lot of high and slow balls into the middle of the court these days. Wozniacki doesn´t have the power to attack those like Bartoli did at the AO, Kuznetsova does. I agree that the match with Wozniacki will be extremely long and boring, and that Jankovic really has to cut back on her UEs, if she wants to prevail. Jankovic can´t give Wozniacki free points and has to be patient till she can smack her backhand down the line into Wozniacki´s more error prone forehand.

Slutiana
May 30th, 2009, 10:44 AM
Classic Jelena. :hysteric: