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Willam
Jan 18th, 2009, 12:13 PM
Everyone is saying that final should be Safina/Jankovic vs. Williamses/Dementieva.

Are you people not taking Ana seriously, i don't care which is her form, i think she will always be a threat.

Marionated
Jan 18th, 2009, 12:15 PM
Well, she has a really nice draw to the quarters at least. You never know with Ana.

tennisbear7
Jan 18th, 2009, 12:16 PM
Ana isn't even a real grand slam champion.

Adal
Jan 18th, 2009, 12:16 PM
OK. Cool.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 18th, 2009, 12:18 PM
Ana hasnt proved that whatever her form might be, she will be a threat. If she does (like the williamses have time after time) then everybody will start thinking of her as a threat .

Personally I would love if she could reach the final again this year :hearts:

miffedmax
Jan 18th, 2009, 12:23 PM
There's nothing in her history to merit more than darkhorse status based on her current form. Which isn't to say she can't pull off the big win. I think most people see her as having an outside shot.

soul
Jan 18th, 2009, 12:28 PM
Even soe web site pools do not give the name of ANA as a choice of winning a slam; It is really strange.Even Vera is a choice but not ANA. IT IS UNFAIR I THINK.ı HOPE SHE WINS

kwilliams
Jan 18th, 2009, 12:32 PM
Well her pre AO form last year wasn't great. I was surprised she made the finals last year. Maybe she'll surprise me again. However she didn't get to the finals in the grandest of form last year and she didn't do much once she got there. I definitely think she'll win the AO one day though. Maybe it'll be one day soon!

mckyle.
Jan 18th, 2009, 12:36 PM
She hasn't even played decent since June.

Ballbasher
Jan 18th, 2009, 12:40 PM
Ana will get to semis I think, but she may very well lose early!

Aravanecaravan
Jan 18th, 2009, 12:41 PM
There's nothing in her history to merit more than darkhorse status based on her current form. Which isn't to say she can't pull off the big win. I think most people see her as having an outside shot.

Oh the irony....

You pull for...Dementieva right?

Jose.
Jan 18th, 2009, 12:54 PM
I think Ana should believe more in herself and considerate her as a favourite. She as a low selfstime. :(

SOA_MC
Jan 18th, 2009, 12:59 PM
With Ana it depends on two things ball toss and forehand

If she has fixed the problem with the ball toss and the forehand is on she has a shot, if not round 3 or 4

Dave.
Jan 18th, 2009, 01:03 PM
Ana's recent results mean she doesn't deserve to be called one of the top favourites (same situation with Serena). The top favourites, based on form alone, have to be Elena and Venus. But that doesn't mean the likes of Ana or Serena can't win in Melbourne. They are already proven champions.

Ana hasnt proved that whatever her form might be, she will be a threat. If she does (like the williamses have time after time) then everybody will start thinking of her as a threat .

Personally I would love if she could reach the final again this year :hearts:

She won Linz last year in the middle of her slump. She wasn't even playing that well in Australia last year and still made the final and semis in Sydney. As long as she connects with her forehand enough, she can beat anyone on tour.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 18th, 2009, 01:08 PM
Ana's recent results mean she doesn't deserve to be called one of the top favourites (same situation with Serena). The top favourites, based on form alone, have to be Elena and Venus. But that doesn't mean the likes of Ana or Serena can't win in Melbourne. They are already proven champions.

She won Linz last year in the middle of her slump. She wasn't even playing that well in Australia last year and still made the final and semis in Sydney. As long as she connects with her forehand enough, she can beat anyone on tour.

Winning Linz in a slump is different than winning a GS in a slump

In linz she was streched by Aga who played abysmal in the third, and I have never seen Vera make so many mistakes, I give credit to Ana for maintaining her cool , but she was still in her slump form, it wasnt like all of a sudden her form escalated to a higher level which wouldve proved she can win big even when in a slump

DragonFlame
Jan 18th, 2009, 01:15 PM
She would have to improve A LOT in 1 week. She can, but i doubt she will. I see a 66%(2/3) chance of her falling to wozniaki in the 4th round. Wozniaki is way too solid for the errorana we've seen lately.

Demska
Jan 18th, 2009, 02:39 PM
Yes, because he form in the last 7 months has given me so much confidence. I hope she loses 1R

yanksrule08
Jan 18th, 2009, 02:44 PM
why would you hope that?

it's fine if you root for someone else and don't believe ana can make it very far, but what do you have against ana to hope that she loses in the 1st round?

DAVAJ MKirilenko
Jan 18th, 2009, 02:48 PM
Ana isn't even a real grand slam champion.

For your information, Roland Garros is a real grandslam tournament for years.

DAVAJ MKirilenko
Jan 18th, 2009, 02:49 PM
She would have to improve A LOT in 1 week. She can, but i doubt she will. I see a 66%(2/3) chance of her falling to wozniaki in the 4th round. Wozniaki is way too solid for the errorana we've seen lately.

Ana plays at least not worse than Berlin/Rome last year.
Next tournament was a grandslam. She didn't have much problems there with Wozniacki.

Dodoboy.
Jan 18th, 2009, 02:55 PM
Caro :bounce:

jjcrew#1
Jan 18th, 2009, 03:40 PM
I have always seen Ana as a threat since she won the French last year but recently her play hasnt been very impressive !

jazar
Jan 18th, 2009, 04:47 PM
ana is going it without a coach at the moment. she is going to lack a game plan and point contruction. instead she will just try and hit the as hard as possible every shot. i doubt she will get to the quarters

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jan 18th, 2009, 05:06 PM
Hope she beats Safina in QF :)

Dementieva_Dude
Jan 18th, 2009, 05:06 PM
Can she win the whole thing? Sure.
Will she? I don't think so. With the form she's been in lately, I'd be VERY surprised if she made the semis.

hawkeye08
Jan 18th, 2009, 05:24 PM
ana is going it without a coach at the moment. she is going to lack a game plan and point contruction. instead she will just try and hit the as hard as possible every shot. i doubt she will get to the quarters

Ana has been without a full time coach since february of 2007 when she worked with David Taylor. I don't understand why people are fussing about this, she is still working withy sven, so its the same situation for two years now.

doujyr
Jan 18th, 2009, 05:27 PM
Has she arranged to have the same squeaky shoes to put her opponents off?

Br'er Rabbit
Jan 18th, 2009, 05:43 PM
:lol: telling us to take Ana seriously. BTW that slam she did win, she won only because Henin retired. Serena is understimated all the time.

nelsondan
Jan 18th, 2009, 05:45 PM
ana is going it without a coach at the moment. she is going to lack a game plan and point contruction. instead she will just try and hit the as hard as possible every shot. i doubt she will get to the quarters


I wonder what the reaction would be if she won---by trusting her instincts, instead of being micro-managed by a coach cluttering up her concentration. Some of the coaches probably would not like it much.

DownTheLine21
Jan 18th, 2009, 05:48 PM
I'm honestly not expecting much from her at the AO, so, if she does really well, I'll be pleasantly surprised.

Vespertine69
Jan 18th, 2009, 06:05 PM
Oh the irony....

You pull for...Dementieva right?

What does supporting Dementieva have to do with his ability to have an opinion on Ana's chances of victory? It's not irony at all, you're just merging two issues which don't correlate. Supporting a player is not the same as truly thinking they have the best chance to win.

Ferg
Jan 18th, 2009, 06:10 PM
Well, Dinara can play bad and still make it to the final of Sydney. If Ana plays bad then... :unsure:

jazar
Jan 18th, 2009, 06:34 PM
Ana has been without a full time coach since february of 2007 when she worked with David Taylor. I don't understand why people are fussing about this, she is still working withy sven, so its the same situation for two years now.

she isnt working with sven anymore. there was an article about it on eurosport one or two days ago, saying that she was following roger federer's example and going it alone; with no coach

Temporary0369
Jan 18th, 2009, 06:38 PM
It's a slower surface so maybe she'll be able to keep the ball in play :shrug:. Who knows.

She has a kind draw so a fourth round is possible. I don't see her getting past Wozniacki. Ardvark or Kleybanova could cut that Cinderella run short though.

jazar
Jan 18th, 2009, 06:42 PM
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/14012009/58/australian-open-ivanovic-alone.html

Inger67
Jan 18th, 2009, 06:49 PM
Because she hasn't played sub-par world #5 tennis since last June. She'll definitely lose in the 4th round to Caro Wozniacki if she even gets that far :)

RenaSlam.
Jan 18th, 2009, 06:49 PM
Dementieva will choke on the big stage, as always.

Jankovic hasn't adjusted to her new frame.

Williams will win the title. Shazaaam.

LCS
Jan 18th, 2009, 06:53 PM
Dementieva will choke on the big stage, as always.

Jankovic hasn't adjusted to her new frame.

Williams will win the title. Shazaaam.

Black and white as always. :p

LCS
Jan 18th, 2009, 06:54 PM
Ana has Goerges in her first match, I see an 8-6 final set score for this encounter...the winner: uncertain.

hawkeye08
Jan 18th, 2009, 07:22 PM
she isnt working with sven anymore. there was an article about it on eurosport one or two days ago, saying that she was following roger federer's example and going it alone; with no coach

That article was just blown out of proprtion. Ana has expressed interest in hiring a full time coach, so right now she doesn't have a "full time" coach, but she is still part of addidas and thus she works with Sven. Ever since she came to Melbourne she has been working with Sven. There is plenty of pictures in which you can see her working with Sven in Melbourne.

StZox
Jan 18th, 2009, 08:17 PM
Ana isn't even a real grand slam champion.

It is funny how hatred blocks one's perception and common sense.

PS This is my first post when I am slightly offending someone.
That means I've been too long on this forum.

new-york
Jan 18th, 2009, 08:27 PM
Everyone is saying that final should be Safina/Jankovic vs. Williamses/Dementieva.

Are you people not taking Ana seriously, i don't care which is her form, i think she will always be a threat.

she will always be a threat, but we're kinda picking the favorites based on form.

Volcana
Jan 18th, 2009, 08:31 PM
Are you people not taking Ana seriouslyOf course we are. Which is why we think she'll be gone before week two.

tennisbear7
Jan 18th, 2009, 08:44 PM
It is funny how hatred blocks one's perception and common sense.

PS This is my first post when I am slightly offending someone.
That means I've been too long on this forum.

I was being sarcastic, honey.

Look at my sig - I'm a fan. :o

starin
Jan 18th, 2009, 08:58 PM
She hasn't even played decent since June.

whoa Murray has bulked up a lot since last year. :eek:


I think Ana could make the final or win. She just has to find her range, she's in good physical shape and isn't injured so she's in w/ a chance.

StZox
Jan 18th, 2009, 09:05 PM
I was being sarcastic, honey.

Look at my sig - I'm a fan. :o



Lol, it is me who came out stupid:drool:
Sorry.

Andy.
Jan 18th, 2009, 09:08 PM
I think she has given more then enough reason of late to doubt whether she will even get past the 4th round. If she were to play Caro right now I wouldnt expect her to win with her game as it stands. She is to hit and miss ATM with no consistancy.

Ciarán
Jan 18th, 2009, 09:17 PM
Ana isn't even a real grand slam champion.

:spit::worship:

miffedmax
Jan 18th, 2009, 09:25 PM
What does supporting Dementieva have to do with his ability to have an opinion on Ana's chances of victory? It's not irony at all, you're just merging two issues which don't correlate. Supporting a player is not the same as truly thinking they have the best chance to win.

Thanks...also, if you check my posts on the topic, you'll see I'm taking the hype around around Elena with a mine of salt.

Of course I want Elena to win, but I'm not cosigning on her as a favorite.

This one is really wide open. I hesitate to pick anyone.

serenus_2k8
Jan 18th, 2009, 10:14 PM
Skybet have Vee/Ree joint faves at 11/4
JJ 2nd as 13/2
Ana and Dinara joint third at 8/1
and then Elena at 10/1.

Thats messed up IMO... :lol:

Dawn Marie
Jan 18th, 2009, 10:40 PM
Ana is being underestimated when people are comparing her to Elena and Dinara. Dinara is overated with limited mobility imho and will more than likely be bounced in first rd by Alla K. Elena has no net game and will more than likely crash out before the semi's. I'm puting my money on Ana because she's made finals before and won a slam. At this stage it's all about mental and how you play your arsenal of shots during the big points. Ana has more arsenal than Elena and Dinara.

SharapovaFan16
Jan 18th, 2009, 10:43 PM
Hey everyone underestimated the Arizona Cardinals and their going to the Superbowl, so have faith! With that being said Ana hasn't done anything to garner any attention heading into this year's Aussie Open. Yes she is a returning finalist last year, but anyone who watches tennis can't say she is anywhere close to good form coming into this tournament.

The Daviator
Jan 18th, 2009, 10:43 PM
She's just too unpredictable, I'm seriously worried about her first match.

serenus_2k8
Jan 18th, 2009, 10:53 PM
I believe this may be the tourny to kick Ana back into form as she is so at home here. I mean, she has achieved more in the last 2 years than many would dream of in their whole career, and after RG 08 the world was her oyster. She better sort her head out, Im sick of the Vaidisova style slump :( :hug:

Temperenka
Jan 18th, 2009, 10:56 PM
I think Ana will make it further than most are expecting.

Horizon
Jan 18th, 2009, 11:22 PM
She's just too unpredictable, I'm seriously worried about her first match.

I'm honestly not expecting much from her at the AO, so, if she does really well, I'll be pleasantly surprised.

Agreed with you two.

Although I'm pretty new posting here, I've been a fan of Ana's for years and I'm praying we don't get a US 08 repeat. I'd be satisfied with a QF alone. Anything more is a bonus at the moment.

Lucemferre
Jan 18th, 2009, 11:35 PM
Ana is playing like :tape::tape::tape::help::help::help::help:

Keadz
Jan 18th, 2009, 11:38 PM
She won't make it past the 3rd round. She should lose THIS match, but Goerges is choking madly!

DragonFlame
Jan 18th, 2009, 11:41 PM
Ana is lucky goerges is making so many mistakes right now. What happened to her serve? :tape: Her balltoss is ... 0_o And i'm not even gonna mention her netgame, which basically is non-existent.

Goerges is making the play right now, either she hits or misses. Not looking good at all ana, she'll win this match though.

Lucemferre
Jan 18th, 2009, 11:42 PM
I must watch another match. A quality match asap or else I'll throw up.

Tennisstar86
Jan 18th, 2009, 11:44 PM
what is going on, this girl was in control and shes lost like 10 straight points lol

Inger67
Jan 18th, 2009, 11:47 PM
Yeah saying she deserves to be a favorite when she was down to number #107 in the world or something 1-3 early.. :haha: what a joke.

Lulu.
Jan 18th, 2009, 11:54 PM
She's playing bad at the moment.

exposbabe
Jan 18th, 2009, 11:57 PM
The ass who's doing the commentary on this match on the ESPN interactive clearly absolutely hates women's tennis. He's ripping every single thing they're doing (or not doing).
It sounds like Doug Adler, who is just as big an ass when he's doing men's tennis. His partner is trying to keep it civilized, but he's not having much luck.

Inger67
Jan 19th, 2009, 12:09 AM
Funny the commentators on ESPN2 just said there has been so certainty with her game for the past several months.. See? There is reason to doubt her, you just refuse to believe it.

Lucemferre
Jan 19th, 2009, 12:12 AM
Date 3-1 up in the second :hearts::hearts::hearts:

V's a star
Jan 19th, 2009, 12:55 AM
I hope the thread starter sees now that ther overestimating Ana:lol:

Br'er Rabbit
Jan 19th, 2009, 01:19 AM
It's hard to come to terms with the truth.

Dave.
Jan 19th, 2009, 01:27 AM
She won, that's all that matters. I remember a certain Venus Williams playing like shit before and during Wimbledon 2007 in the early rounds and she went on to win the title. She, and her fans in general, have always been so insistant that people shouldn't doubt her. I think more people need to take a leaf out of Venus' book and stop writing people off. It's even worse if you consider yourself a Venus fan and you are going around doing the exact thing people have done to her in the past. :o

OsloErik
Jan 19th, 2009, 01:30 AM
She's not going to win anything if she keeps chasing her ball-toss like that.

Basically, Ivanovic is a confidence player, and unlike some other confidence players (Serena, for example) she can't create her own confidence in the middle of a tournament. I can't yet think of a tournament where she went from playing like this to looking like the best player in the world (which she does when she's playing well). It's just wrong to say she is a threat regardless of form. She enters each TOURNAMENT a question mark, but she doesn't get better mid-tournament.

Direwolf
Jan 19th, 2009, 01:34 AM
well i chose her to make the finals...see

Polikarpov
Jan 19th, 2009, 02:04 AM
Ana is definitely not in form going in this year's AO, but didn't she lost her second round match in Rome before Roland Garros?

Wiggly
Jan 19th, 2009, 02:06 AM
She won, that's all that matters. I remember a certain Venus Williams playing like shit before and during Wimbledon 2007 in the early rounds and she went on to win the title. She, and her fans in general, have always been so insistant that people shouldn't doubt her. I think more people need to take a leaf out of Venus' book and stop writing people off. It's even worse if you consider yourself a Venus fan and you are going around doing the exact thing people have done to her in the past. :o

There is just a slight difference between Ivanovic/Australian Open and Venus/Wimbledon. ;)

Dave.
Jan 19th, 2009, 02:10 AM
There is just a slight difference between Ivanovic/Australian Open and Venus/Wimbledon. ;)

Oh of course, but it's just the whole writing people off in general. Especially since Ana has won a slam before and made the finals here last year playing well under her best.

zxcVbnm88
Jan 19th, 2009, 02:37 AM
She won, that's all that matters. I remember a certain Venus Williams playing like shit before and during Wimbledon 2007 in the early rounds and she went on to win the title. She, and her fans in general, have always been so insistant that people shouldn't doubt her. I think more people need to take a leaf out of Venus' book and stop writing people off. It's even worse if you consider yourself a Venus fan and you are going around doing the exact thing people have done to her in the past. :o

Before Wimbledon 2007, Venus had won Wimbledon 3 times and made 2 Finals and yet there were so many doubters. After winning her 4th Wimbledon title, many thought that she couldn't defend it and Venus proved them wrong again.

Ana has yet to win AO. I wouldn't be too surprise if Ana somehow manages to play her best tennis and reaches the final again but doubters are out there, always.

SOA_MC
Jan 19th, 2009, 06:21 AM
With Ana it depends on two things ball toss and forehand

If she has fixed the problem with the ball toss and the forehand is on she has a shot, if not round 3 or 4

Like I said :o

And people bashing the OP :lol: Tzar doesn't even like Ana :p

égalité
Jan 19th, 2009, 06:25 AM
If you've watched her play at any time in the past 7 months I think you'll agree that we're estimating her very fairly, actually.

hwanmig
Jan 19th, 2009, 12:59 PM
She's not gonna win this tournament but I'm pretty sure she'll defend RG this year.

jelena_jankovic
Jan 19th, 2009, 01:12 PM
after her first round, I would say she is way overestimated!!!!

new-york
Jan 19th, 2009, 01:22 PM
She won, that's all that matters. I remember a certain Venus Williams playing like shit before and during Wimbledon 2007 in the early rounds and she went on to win the title. She, and her fans in general, have always been so insistant that people shouldn't doubt her. I think more people need to take a leaf out of Venus' book and stop writing people off. It's even worse if you consider yourself a Venus fan and you are going around doing the exact thing people have done to her in the past. :o

Venus' case is pretty unique. :o

it's like comparing Ana start of the season with Serena's in 2007.
Ana's not in that league til she actually pulls something like that.

InsideOut.
Jan 19th, 2009, 01:23 PM
She's not going to win anything if she keeps chasing her ball-toss like that.

Basically, Ivanovic is a confidence player, and unlike some other confidence players (Serena, for example) she can't create her own confidence in the middle of a tournament. I can't yet think of a tournament where she went from playing like this to looking like the best player in the world (which she does when she's playing well). It's just wrong to say she is a threat regardless of form. She enters each TOURNAMENT a question mark, but she doesn't get better mid-tournament.

She can. Last year in this very same tournament. She was pretty horrible against Sorana who did play pretty well but hung on and she was impeccable against Garbin (well until she started choking a bit :o), solid with loads of slice against Srebotnik, asleep for some time against Caro, back again for Venus, sucked for a while before coming back against Dani, and then the final was pretty bad.

Others I remember include IW last year. Down 2-6 4-5 to Schiavone but then came back strong and won the entire tournament. In Wimbledon 07, she won her first match vs. Czink 6-0 7-6, Tu 6-4 6-3 - unconvincing scorelines, then 6-3 6-2 vs. Rezai who has since then not won a single match on grass I think. After that she beat Petrova and Vaidisova in 3 before losing to Venus. Very respectable IMO. In fact, historically, when Ana has struggled in GS first rounds but wins in straights (she has never lost one, by the way), she does well at the slam. AO and RG last year come to mind (7-5 6-3 Cirstea, 6-2 7-5 Arvidsson).

She's sucking but I hope she can step it up.

ChriS.
Jan 19th, 2009, 06:27 PM
Ana looked so fragile in her first match and was lucky her opponent was even more uncertain of herself. The ball toss was ridiculous. I doubt she can get far in this tournament but I would never rule her out because on her day she can beat anyone.

DAVAJ MKirilenko
Jan 19th, 2009, 06:42 PM
Ana looked so fragile in her first match and was lucky her opponent was even more uncertain of herself. The ball toss was ridiculous. I doubt she can get far in this tournament but I would never rule her out because on her day she can beat anyone.

That's the only thing that gives me hope.
But the rest.......:help:

Williamsser
Jan 23rd, 2009, 12:17 PM
They had good reason to.

In The Zone
Jan 23rd, 2009, 12:23 PM
Good bump.

Jorn
Jan 23rd, 2009, 12:30 PM
The Danish ES Commentators only spoke about how Caro would beat Ana in r4, but now they are both out! :o

Shoulderpova
Jan 23rd, 2009, 01:48 PM
The Danish ES Commentators only spoke about how Caro would beat Ana in r4, but now they are both out! :o

which is great :D:D

RenaSlam.
Jan 23rd, 2009, 02:53 PM
Tzar :help: :tape:

Willam
Jan 23rd, 2009, 03:37 PM
Dude stick yourself to the facts.

Ana is a grand slamp champion and top 5, her slum have to end someday and i said she might do a good tournament, thats it :shrug:

it's not like a said she was going to win or achieve something specific. :shrug: Im not demska, thanks God for that.

Willam
Jan 23rd, 2009, 03:40 PM
i just re read my post and just said that i always think Ana is a threat :shrug:

I dont see whats so funny about that, i mean she reached R3, Vee reached 2 so.. :rolleyes:

Craig.
Jan 23rd, 2009, 03:42 PM
i just re read my post and just said that i always think Ana is a threat :shrug:

I dont see whats so funny about that, i mean she reached R3, Vee reached 2 so.. :rolleyes:

You're right, you're not Demska.

In fact, you're much worse.

Tennisstar86
Jan 23rd, 2009, 04:03 PM
Dude stick yourself to the facts.

Ana is a grand slamp champion and top 5, her slum have to end someday and i said she might do a good tournament, thats it :shrug:

it's not like a said she was going to win or achieve something specific. :shrug: Im not demska, thanks God for that.

Actually Ana doesnt "have" to come out of her slump. she wouldnt be the first....

Willam
Jan 23rd, 2009, 04:29 PM
Coming from you, it's a compliment.

serenus_2k8
Jan 23rd, 2009, 04:34 PM
I have to love how arrogant posters are made to eat their words.

Ive really grown to love Ana but posting a thread this stupid was just :rolleyes:

In future, try titles such as 'I think Ana is still a threat at AO' :tape:

Willam
Jan 23rd, 2009, 04:36 PM
I have to love how arrogant posters are made to eat their words.

Ive really grown to love Ana but posting a thread this stupid was just :rolleyes:

In future, try titles such as 'I think Ana is still a threat at AO' :tape:

What words i'm eating :rolleyes:

I didn't said ANA WILL REACH FINAL, ANA WILL WIN.. i just said she might be a threat. period. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Craig.
Jan 23rd, 2009, 04:44 PM
Coming from you, it's a compliment.

:spit:

You don't even know me. I've never even talked to you.

Ciarán
Jan 23rd, 2009, 04:46 PM
wrong

Adal
Jan 23rd, 2009, 04:49 PM
What words i'm eating :rolleyes:

I didn't said ANA WILL REACH FINAL, ANA WILL WIN.. i just said she might be a threat. period. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
Good. So it's settled. So you can go shave your back now. Bye, Tzar.

Mina Vagante
Jan 23rd, 2009, 04:51 PM
:spit:

You don't even know me. I've never even talked to you.

I know you .

Craig.
Jan 23rd, 2009, 04:53 PM
I know you .

I know you do. :hehehe:

Willam
Jan 23rd, 2009, 04:54 PM
Good. So it's settled. So you can go shave your back now. Bye, Tzar.

:scratch: Too Much Mean Girls?

ivanban
Jan 23rd, 2009, 06:02 PM
Dude stick yourself to the facts.

Ana is a grand slamp champion and top 5, her slum have to end someday and i said she might do a good tournament, thats it :shrug:

it's not like a said she was going to win or achieve something specific. :shrug: Im not demska, thanks God for that.

You mean she was top 5 :tape:

lizchris
Jan 23rd, 2009, 06:06 PM
i just re read my post and just said that i always think Ana is a threat :shrug:

I dont see whats so funny about that, i mean she reached R3, Vee reached 2 so.. :rolleyes:

Yes, Venus lost im the second round, but as of today, she is ranked number five while Aan is ranked 7. In fact, if Vera loses in the next round, Venus could leave Melbourne ranked higher than when she got there:lol:.

Nicolás89
Jan 23rd, 2009, 06:42 PM
What words i'm eating :rolleyes:

I didn't said ANA WILL REACH FINAL, ANA WILL WIN.. i just said she might be a threat. period. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

You said she will always be threat, as she lost now she proved she wasn't a threat, so you were wrong. Deal with it. :shrug:

jjcrew#1
Jan 23rd, 2009, 06:53 PM
and her loss proved why she is not a threat!

égalité
Jan 23rd, 2009, 06:56 PM
You mean she was top 5 :tape:

:haha: :worship:

Maybe Kleybanova bobs her head down when she hits her groundstrokes so she can keep an eye on Ana's plummeting ranking :awww:

choi15
Jan 23rd, 2009, 07:30 PM
i just re read my post and just said that i always think Ana is a threat :shrug:

I dont see whats so funny about that, i mean she reached R3, Vee reached 2 so.. :rolleyes:

Yea but you want to know the difference? Venus is a x7 GS champion, and has reached the final of each major slam...a x2 double olympic winner and x1 singles olympic winner, with a shyt load of money and 35+ titles...as well as her accomplishments in doubles...Venus has already proven herself a champion in many many ways :drool:.... where as Ana is stil very young and already declining :tape:...she hasn't really proven herself/lived up to the hype ppl have been putting her on, other than winning 1 slam, and doing nothing else (3r-2r-3r) :wavey:

sharapovarulz1
Jan 23rd, 2009, 07:43 PM
The title of this thread has gone down the pan now lol

pancake
Jan 23rd, 2009, 08:50 PM
I love how you always try to be different from others and I bet when people are understimating Ana with good reasons you probably had an orgasm and thought it's time for you to be 'I am different than you guys' and opened such a stupid thread.

And you failed again, as always:hearts:.

Willam
Jan 23rd, 2009, 08:54 PM
I love how you always try to be different from others and I bet when people are understimating Ana with good reasons you probably had an orgasm and thought it's time for you to be 'I am different than you guys' and opened such a stupid thread.

And you failed again, as always:hearts:.

Yes Difference.

Just like China's communism compared to the world.

kyk710
Jan 23rd, 2009, 09:01 PM
Ana has loads of talent, but since the French she has been just a forehand, and sometimes not even that. The other players know if they just stay with her and play consistently she will implode. Ana needs to really work on her game, until then everyone will go right on underestimating her.

Matt01
Jan 23rd, 2009, 09:53 PM
Yea but you want to know the difference? Venus is a x7 GS champion, and has reached the final of each major slam...a x2 double olympic winner and x1 singles olympic winner, with a shyt load of money and 35+ titles...as well as her accomplishments in doubles...Venus has already proven herself a champion in many many ways :drool:.... where as Ana is stil very young and already declining :tape:...she hasn't really proven herself/lived up to the hype ppl have been putting her on, other than winning 1 slam, and doing nothing else (3r-2r-3r) :wavey:


I think you'll be quite disappointed in a few years...

Ana is already a proven Champion: Her carrer has only started few years ago but she already has won lots of big tournamnets other than RG like Indian Wells, German and Canadian Open plus she has reached two other Slam finals and #1. Her current decline is only a temporary slump :wavey:

And besided as someone else already said, she has proven she was a bigger threat at this year's AO than Venus :lol:

muzzy
Jan 23rd, 2009, 09:58 PM
Yea but you want to know the difference? Venus is a x7 GS champion, and has reached the final of each major slam...a x2 double olympic winner and x1 singles olympic winner, with a shyt load of money and 35+ titles...as well as her accomplishments in doubles...Venus has already proven herself a champion in many many ways :drool:.... where as Ana is stil very young and already declining :tape:...she hasn't really proven herself/lived up to the hype ppl have been putting her on, other than winning 1 slam, and doing nothing else (3r-2r-3r) :wavey:


Venus did run into a red hot suarez navarro who played very well in the third

I didnt see ana's match though so I shouldnt really be comparing

Caillou
Jan 23rd, 2009, 10:33 PM
matt..at least think before you talk...venus was a WAY BIGGER threat than ana...
the thread starter had a point..i mean before the tourny began no one mentioned ana. This happens to serena and venus a lot especially Ao 07 and Wimbledon 07..look what happened there..I truly feel bad for ana, she has so much talent and its painful to watch her suffer like this. The point is though, you can never doubt a champion no matter how poorly they have done recently. The pros dont do that, they know better, so we shouldn't either.

Matt01
Jan 23rd, 2009, 11:08 PM
matt..at least think before you talk...venus was a WAY BIGGER threat than ana...


Then why did Venus lose in R2 while Ana made it one round further? :p

CrossCourt~Rally
Jan 23rd, 2009, 11:10 PM
Hopefully she'll get fully back on track for the clay season :bounce:

fester
Jan 23rd, 2009, 11:15 PM
Then why did Venus lose in R2 while Ana made it one round further? :p

Probably because they played different people. If they swapped places, Venus may have been the one getting to R3 with Ivanovic going out in R2

Matt01
Jan 23rd, 2009, 11:19 PM
Probably because they played different people. If they swapped places, Venus may have been the one getting to R3 with Ivanovic going out in R2


Yeah and if they swapped places at Wimbledon Ana now would be a 5 time Wimbledon Champ and Venus would be a one time semi-finalist. That kind of argumentation doesn't work.

G1Player2
Jan 23rd, 2009, 11:21 PM
Yeah and if they swapped places at Wimbledon Ana now would be a 5 time Wimbledon Champ and Venus would be a one time semi-finalist. That kind of argumentation doesn't work.

As usual, what you say makes NO sense. :rolleyes:

Craig.
Jan 23rd, 2009, 11:27 PM
Yeah and if they swapped places at Wimbledon Ana now would be a 5 time Wimbledon Champ and Venus would be a one time semi-finalist. That kind of argumentation doesn't work.

:weirdo: That's not what he/she meant and you know it.

fester
Jan 23rd, 2009, 11:40 PM
Yeah and if they swapped places at Wimbledon Ana now would be a 5 time Wimbledon Champ and Venus would be a one time semi-finalist. That kind of argumentation doesn't work.

You know what I meant. I am not going to argue about something so trivial.

choi15
Jan 23rd, 2009, 11:53 PM
I think you'll be quite disappointed in a few years...

Ana is already a proven Champion: Her carrer has only started few years ago but she already has won lots of big tournamnets other than RG like Indian Wells, German and Canadian Open plus she has reached two other Slam finals and #1. Her current decline is only a temporary slump :wavey:

And besided as someone else already said, she has proven she was a bigger threat at this year's AO than Venus :lol:


I didn' know you could tell the future :rolleyes:...as of now, ana hasn't done anything impressive after winning the french...and justifying ana's lost by saying she advanced ONE round further than venus is just :lol::lol:...it doesn't say much..

V&SWilliams Fan
Jan 23rd, 2009, 11:54 PM
:smash:

Pasta-Na
Jan 23rd, 2009, 11:55 PM
i remember this thread :spit:

morningglory
Jan 23rd, 2009, 11:57 PM
Ana fans pls dont be disheartened :lol: Maria herself had to go through this kind of scrutiny when she failed to immediately sieze another slam after Wimbledon 04... and let's not even mention the crap Serena gets from this board whenever her fans talk big and she ends up losing.

choi15
Jan 24th, 2009, 12:04 AM
Ana fans pls dont be disheartened :lol: Maria herself had to go through this kind of scrutiny when she failed to immediately sieze another slam after Wimbledon 04... and let's not even mention the crap Serena gets from this board whenever her fans talk big and she ends up losing.

It's not even about that [for me]...Maria, after winning wimbledon was at least still winning titles and making it at least into the 2nd week of all GS (quarters/semis), whereas Ana has just been abysmal after winning the french...I don't hate ana, she just hasn't lived up to the hype ppl talk about. I'm hoping she can pull it out during the clay season, cuz if she doesn't....

Matt01
Jan 24th, 2009, 12:06 AM
I didn' know you could tell the future :rolleyes:


Well, now you do.

Matt01
Jan 24th, 2009, 12:08 AM
It's not even about that [for me]...Maria, after winning wimbledon was at least still winning titles and making it at least into the 2nd week of all GS (quarters/semis), whereas Ana has just been abysmal after winning the french...I don't hate ana, she just hasn't lived up to the hype ppl talk about. I'm hoping she can pull it out during the clay season, cuz if she doesn't....


Ana has won a title after her RG win as well :wavey:

Matt01
Jan 24th, 2009, 12:12 AM
You know what I meant.


Yes I do, and it was stupid.

Mashafaaaaan
Jan 24th, 2009, 12:12 AM
Ana has won a title after her RG win as well :wavey:

Yeah, with an abysmal way.:lol:

choi15
Jan 24th, 2009, 12:13 AM
Ana has won a title after her RG win as well :wavey:

I never said Ana never won a title after winning RG:smash:...i said maria at least won titleS and made it deep into GS:wavey:

Matt01
Jan 24th, 2009, 12:14 AM
Yeah, with an abysmal way.:lol:


Crushing a top ten player 6:2,6:1 is hardly abysmal.

Mashafaaaaan
Jan 24th, 2009, 12:16 AM
Crushing a top ten player 6:2,6:1 is hardly abysmal.

It was, trust me.