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Josh.
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:42 AM
:sobbing:
Daniela's play was so erratic. One good game, shocking the next. On to the Australia Open. :unsure:

Daniela-Is-Mine
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:42 AM
:bigcry:

iGOAT
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:43 AM
:sobbing:

Keadz
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:43 AM
Dani forehand winners: 10
Dani backhand winners: 14
Aga forehand winner: 6
Age backhand winners: 4
Dani UFE: 34
AGA UFE: 8

Dexter
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:43 AM
Revenge for Melbourne. :angel:
Aga was serving below 50% for most of the match... I can't believe Danka couldn't capitalise on Aga's 2nd serve.

Daniela-Is-Mine
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:43 AM
:bigcry:

saul1333
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:43 AM
poor dani :sad:
was not able to watch the match but i hope she played well.

IceHock
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:43 AM
nice errorfest dani, glad to see ur back to ur old self.

TheBoiledEgg
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:43 AM
Daniela sure knows how to make a complete mess of shots :help: :(

Mina Vagante
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:44 AM
Dani forehand winners: 10
Dani backhand winners: 14
Aga forehand winner: 6
Age backhand winners: 4
Dani UFE: 34
AGA UFE: 8

Right there.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:44 AM
Statistics-


Dani-

First serve percentage - 64
Winners - 31
Unforced errors - 36
Aces - 1
DFs - 1

Aga-
First serve percentage - 55
Winners- 17
Unforced errors= 8
Aces- 1
Dfs - 2

Horrible net play for Dani , and Aga being smart decided to exploit it more with her lobs

Привет
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:45 AM
I find watching Radwanska play about as entertaining as watching a ball machine feed balls for an hour and a half.

Eliminate those errors, Danka. :(

M&M
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:46 AM
go aga! :yeah:

dani :hug:

sammy01
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:46 AM
her fans can join the slumpers club me and iszavay are trying to set up.

aga is just too consistent for spray it anywhere dani.

Wiggly
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:46 AM
I don't know how Radwanska is winning matches with that serve.
The AO is coming up. Free falling.

fouc
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:47 AM
not the best performance from Aga, but it was just enough.
and thx again to Keadz for visualizing the match for us :)

IceHock
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:47 AM
her fans can join the slumpers club me and iszavay are trying to set up.

aga is just too consistent for spray it anywhere dani.
i'm joining because reading the errors she made, it was frigin awful.

So Disrespectful
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:47 AM
Agnieska was helped from 1-3 down in the first set by 3 net chord shots in her favour. She hit a couple of winners, but mainly just kept the ball short in the court.

While Daniela made a million unforced errors and was quite erratic, a lot of those errors came from off-backhand attemps down the line when they weren't on. Her footwork is much better than it has been since early last year and I think she can build on this.

Davodus
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:48 AM
oh dear daniela :(
but well done aga :)

Lulu.
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:48 AM
Well done Aga. :yeah:

See you in Melbourne Dani. :hug:

sammy01
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:50 AM
i'm joining because reading the errors she made, it was frigin awful.

we want a forum where we can cry, console each other, moan and lambast ourselves for not supporting a winner.

Richie's
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:51 AM
Even Aga's second serve was better than Daniela's 1st!! Radwanska won 48% on second serve but Danka only 47% on her 1st!

Vaidisova
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:51 AM
Aga:)

Marty-Dom
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:51 AM
Dani forehand winners: 10
Dani backhand winners: 14
Aga forehand winner: 6
Age backhand winners: 4
Dani UFE: 34
AGA UFE: 8

And yet A-Rad won total of 69 points. That means she forced a lot of errors- 25 to be exact.
In my opinion she is just living up to her ranking, taking care of lower ranked opponents. She is a legitimate top 10 player whether her detractors like it or not.

gaja kesari
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:51 AM
Congratulations Aga!!! Perfect revenge for last year's AO I suppose :D

Commiserations Dani, bad luck (quite literally, too)

DaNieLa RoCkZ
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:53 AM
Maybe Daniela needs a fall in the rankings to realize that she needs to play lower tier events and regain whatever form she had

Wiggly
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:54 AM
And yet A-Rad won total of 69 points. That means she forced a lot of errors- 25 to be exact.
In my opinion she is just living up to her ranking, taking care of lower ranked opponents. She is a legitimate top 10 player whether her detractors like it or not.

Come on.
If Daniela plays well, she beats that girl 6-2 6-2.
Like she did in Melbourne last year.

Wiggly
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:55 AM
Maybe Daniela needs a fall in the rankings to realize that she needs to play lower tier events and regain whatever form she had

Daniela is a snob girl. She doesn't like playing on Mickey Mouse events.

Renalicious
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:56 AM
Daniela had 37 UE to Aga's 8.

I think it's a promising match for Dani. she hit some nice winners but in the end, she just needed to be a little more stable.

Serenita
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:57 AM
dani had a great carreer! played some great matches. i hope she can play-on with grace.

homogenius
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:58 AM
Aga should teach Daniela one or two things about consistency...Hard times for Daniela coming soon when that SF points will go.hope she can find her game to be decent there.
Radwanska battling with Wozniacki for top 10 spot.Interesting.

So Disrespectful
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:58 AM
Come on.
If Daniela plays well, she beats that girl 6-2 6-2.
Like she did in Melbourne last year.

Exactly.

Hantuchova lost to Errani last week and had losses to players like Cirstea, Govortsova, Kleybanova, Sprem, Groenefeld, Schiavone and Kirilenko last year. She's hardly in top form and Agnieska didn't really have to do anything to beat her today.

homogenius
Jan 13th, 2009, 01:00 AM
we want a forum where we can cry, console each other, moan and lambast ourselves for not supporting a winner.

lol Don't worry, Anna will be fine this year ;)

Noctis
Jan 13th, 2009, 01:07 AM
Dani :sobbing: I can't believe You didn't Win after the 1-3 up too nervous?

Marty-Dom
Jan 13th, 2009, 01:11 AM
Come on.
If Daniela plays well, she beats that girl 6-2 6-2.
Like she did in Melbourne last year.

If A-Rad plays well she beats Danka 6:3, 6:3 like she did in Zurich in 2007. If she has an off day, she wins 6:3, 7:5 like today.

Lunaris
Jan 13th, 2009, 01:12 AM
Give credit where it's due. Aga played well, made some very nice touch shots (that forehand lob at the end of the 1st set was great) and capitalized on Hantuchova's impatience, poor serve and incosistent play. Well done. Until Daniela plays patiently she won't beat her again.

Matt.
Jan 13th, 2009, 01:28 AM
I don't know how Radwanska is winning matches with that serve.

She's winning matches with "that serve" because a.) it's very consistent and placed well, b.) she defends the serve intelligently, and c.) most of the WTA can't capitalize on it.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jan 13th, 2009, 01:31 AM
10 winners in 85 minutes :lol:

PUSHER !

aussie_fan
Jan 13th, 2009, 01:34 AM
Aga played very smart tennis, some beautiful angles and just kep consistant. Had of Daniela made less errors she could of easily won the match though.

AndreConrad
Jan 13th, 2009, 02:05 AM
Agnieszka well done :yeah:
Daniela :hug:

matty
Jan 13th, 2009, 02:30 AM
I find watching Radwanska play about as entertaining as watching a ball machine feed balls for an hour and a half.

:(

I know--how is this girl ranked #10?

Hantuchova--pls work it out-your fans can't take much more of this....

Malva
Jan 13th, 2009, 03:08 AM
Statistics-


Dani-

First serve percentage - 64
Winners - 31
Unforced errors - 36
Aces - 1
DFs - 1

Aga-
First serve percentage - 55
Winners- 17
Unforced errors= 8
Aces- 1
Dfs - 2

Horrible net play for Dani , and Aga being smart decided to exploit it more with her lobs

Martin (Lunaris) was right with his predictions.

I don't know how Radwanska is winning matches with that serve.


How? In short, the answer is: Agnieszka is a very special player.

I personally love her game, the more so precisely because she is winning matches not with her serve, rather in spite of her serve.

I know--how is this girl ranked #10?


Because she is a very good tennis player. With better serve she would be right at the very top. With the serve she has at present — she is only #10.

Malva
Jan 13th, 2009, 04:02 AM
10 winners in 85 minutes :lol:

PUSHER !

Lots of so called "errors" of Agnieszka's opponents are actually quite "forced" errors — by the way she plays. I like this better. It is more subtle. I like subtlety and variety, in tennis too.

SOA_MC
Jan 13th, 2009, 04:23 AM
Congrats Aga:) but she was helped out by Daniela in this match

adner
Jan 13th, 2009, 05:21 AM
10 winners in 85 minutes :lol:

PUSHER !

No need for more compliments to Aga, you've already said enough. She has never wanted to be a banger. She's too smart to be one.

Daniela is a snob girl. She doesn't like playing on Mickey Mouse events.

Which she has proven in last year's Roland Garros, Wimbledon and US Open, hasn't she?


Agnieszka is in the tour for some time already and still some people get surprised by way she plays. She WILL NOT change it, she forces her opponents to do an error instead of hitting winning balls herself - it helps her to dominate them mentally. Now Dementieva - as we have already seen, Aga can beat her and lets hope she plays her best nextday(like in Doha last year).

betowiec
Jan 13th, 2009, 06:22 AM
This Aga is good

meb
Jan 13th, 2009, 06:25 AM
Well done Aga! GL against Elena.

spriwi
Jan 13th, 2009, 06:32 AM
well done aga :yeah:

darkangel23
Jan 13th, 2009, 06:51 AM
Dani :rolleyes:

Shvedbarilescu
Jan 13th, 2009, 06:57 AM
Martin (Lunaris) was right with his predictions.


Martin knows Daniela so well. I think he pretty much knows exactly how Dani will perform from one match to the next. It's quite uncanny. I don't ever recall Martin being wrong about a Dani match although there might have been a couple of occasions I didn't notice. Martin is such a loyal Dani fan I doubt he would bet on her matches, certainly not against her, but if he did he could make a lot of dosh.

Anyway, besides that, all I can say is comiserations to Dani and I hope her AO goes better and congrats to Aga, keep it going vs Elena. :yeah:

olivero
Jan 13th, 2009, 07:46 AM
Well done Aga :D
good revenge for the AO last year ;)

Lunaris
Jan 13th, 2009, 07:50 AM
Actually I used to bet very often against Daniela, mainly in 2003-04, and the total sum of my "dosh" was in negative numbers when I stopped betting, despite Daniela losing almost every match. :lol: :tape: There you see the quality of my predictions. :p

Nikkiri
Jan 13th, 2009, 08:08 AM
Aga :D well done!

donniedarkofan
Jan 13th, 2009, 09:29 AM
some little kids in my tennis school got better serves than Agnieszka..she should do someting about it,like for real!

SoClose
Jan 13th, 2009, 09:59 AM
great win Aga!!!

Hedgehog
Jan 13th, 2009, 10:18 AM
Well Done Aga!

Dani! :hug: Nothing was going your way in this match huh?

3Dcool
Jan 13th, 2009, 11:44 AM
Lets go Aga <3

Malva
Jan 13th, 2009, 11:50 AM
Martin knows Daniela so well. I think he pretty much knows exactly how Dani will perform from one match to the next. It's quite uncanny. I don't ever recall Martin being wrong about a Dani match although there might have been a couple of occasions I didn't notice. Martin is such a loyal Dani fan I doubt he would bet on her matches, certainly not against her, but if he did he could make a lot of dosh.

Anyway, besides that, all I can say is comiserations to Dani and I hope her AO goes better and congrats to Aga, keep it going vs Elena. :yeah:

My commiserations to Daniela's fans too. Martin is not only loyal, he is also knowledgeable and, what is equally rare, he displays good will in the forum. And his caustic sense of humor, which I like very much, is not malicious. His attitude predisposes me really well to the players he supports, like Daniela.

smit101
Jan 13th, 2009, 11:51 AM
I was at the match and i found Aga really entertaining to watch. She mixes that match up so well and even though her serve is weak she manages to remain in the points through her great defence and she is really fast around the court.

Dani is just so inconsistent at the moment, hopefully she can find form for the AO!

ivanban
Jan 13th, 2009, 01:47 PM
Danka :tape: that was horrid :o spraying riduculous errors left & right :o some of the UEs were mega laughable :rolls: :scared:

Aga :yawn:

frenchie
Jan 13th, 2009, 02:06 PM
I still love how Aga plays!

The way she throws a BH slice, dropshot or short angle out of nowhere is amazing to watch!
And she hardly ever makes a mistake which is good to see in the WTA nowadays

joão.
Jan 13th, 2009, 02:20 PM
:sad:

AndreConrad
Jan 13th, 2009, 02:57 PM
I still love how Aga plays!

The way she throws a BH slice, dropshot or short angle out of nowhere is amazing to watch!
And she hardly ever makes a mistake which is good to see in the WTA nowadays

I love her game, too. I understand when people have different taste and enjoy different style, but the ones that are saying that they are bored and just yawn probably never saw her play or know nothing about tennis.

Agata.
Jan 13th, 2009, 03:07 PM
Aga :yeah:

Broken Racquet
Jan 13th, 2009, 03:33 PM
Come on.
If Daniela plays well, she beats that girl 6-2 6-2.
Like she did in Melbourne last year.

this was ages ago, Aga was 18 and improved a lot since then. Why don't you give her credit for that?

Broken Racquet
Jan 13th, 2009, 03:36 PM
I know--how is this girl ranked #10?



:spit:

Ciarán
Jan 13th, 2009, 04:00 PM
Dani :bigcry:

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jan 13th, 2009, 04:07 PM
And she hardly ever makes a mistake which is good to see in the WTA nowadays

Radwanska hardly takes risks or hits the ball at 60 Kms/h or + :tape: . That is the reason why she doesn´t make errors or more than 20 winners in a 3 hour match

Broken Racquet
Jan 13th, 2009, 04:10 PM
Radwanska hardly takes risks or hits the ball at 60 Kms/h or + :tape: . That is the reason

if she wins, it proves to be a good choice

zveeen
Jan 13th, 2009, 04:14 PM
Daniela :sad:

justine schnyder
Jan 13th, 2009, 05:44 PM
Yay Aga! :)
Good win even Daniela is slumping..


Danka :hug:

égalité
Jan 13th, 2009, 05:48 PM
if she wins, it proves to be a good choice

Thank you! :worship:

Corswandt
Jan 13th, 2009, 10:20 PM
the ones that are saying that they are bored and just yawn probably never saw her play or know nothing about tennis.

:rolleyes:

Haven't we been through this about 80147134740 times before?

Anyways.

Danka is showing some signs of improvement. The last time I saw her play (Moscow?) she was just in shambles. In terms of game, I'd say she's at about 60%. In terms of confidence - the pitts. How many easy putaways did she miss? She had good chances to lead in both sets. Some questionable tactical options (running around her BH to return serve with her less solid FH, going for too much on ROS, too impatient in general). Some clean hitting and some very poor footwork (as always). Lovely dropshots though, particularly considering just how hard it is to successfully dropshot Radwanska.

As for Radwanska, and contrary to the claims of her apologists, her game isn't showing any signs of evolving. 2nd serve is the same embarrassment and she hasn't added any pace to her groundstrokes. It seems that the game we see now is what we'll get for the rest of her career, and that 10 years from now Radwanska will still be annoying me with it. The only winners she hits are wrongfooters, often 1-2 after a sharply angled 1st serve to open up the court. She rarely if ever hits winners after lengthy rallies. Rushing the net against a player whose main course is shot accuracy/placement such as Danka was foolish - she got passed time and again.

Despite her much praised shot variety, there are some patterns to Radwanska's game that almost amount to predictability - for instance, she goes for the cute stuff mostly in innocuous points (say *15-0 on her service games); in decisive points or when down, she'll stick to pushing and take no risks whatsoever.

St.Sebastian
Jan 13th, 2009, 10:42 PM
I can't believe the amount of hatred towards Aga on this board. Give the girl a break! She said time and time again she will not spend hours a day in the gym to bulk up as it's just not suitable for her tiny physique. LEt her stick to her guns, I guess both her and her coach know what they're doing.

If she was just a pusher, everybody would play this kind of game in order to get to top-10.
I do hope she beats Dementieva just to prove a point and shut up these haters.

matty
Jan 13th, 2009, 11:12 PM
:rolleyes:


....for instance, she goes for the cute stuff...

I like the way you write--thanks for the laugh!

Freakan
Jan 13th, 2009, 11:15 PM
As for Radwanska, and contrary to the claims of her apologists, her game isn't showing any signs of evolving. 2nd serve is the same embarrassment and she hasn't added any pace to her groundstrokes.


The fact that she won more points after her 2nd serve than Daniela after her 1st serve just proves how much your opinion is worth.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jan 13th, 2009, 11:34 PM
I do hope she beats Dementieva just to prove a point and shut up these haters.

An eventual win against Dementieva won´t prove that Radwanska is not a pusher. It is not about win or defeats , it is about how you play the game

St.Sebastian
Jan 13th, 2009, 11:39 PM
An eventual win against Dementieva won´t prove that Radwanska is not a pusher. It is not about win or defeats , it is about how you play the game
I was talking about showing the haters that she can actually play and challenge the best players out there.

pancake
Jan 14th, 2009, 04:29 AM
I was talking about showing the haters that she can actually play and challenge the best players out there.

Oh give it up. There are too many trolls out there not clever enough to appreciate different game play. The fact that Radwanska is capacable of hitting so few UEs is admirable, can't say this for some 'talented', 'entertaining' players who just can't keep the ball in.

Malva
Jan 14th, 2009, 04:49 AM
As for Radwanska, and contrary to the claims of her apologists, (...)


Those who you call «her apologists» are the ones who like her style of playing tennis, or support her for some other reason. She doesn't need any «apologists». She is a fine tennis player, and there is nobody else like her on tour at the moment.


Despite her much praised shot variety, there are some patterns to Radwanska's game that almost amount to predictability

Yes, Radwańska's variety tennis is predictable. Mozart's or Vivaldi's music also abounds in «some patterns» that are highly predictable. When you heard any ten of their concertos you can «predict» that the eleventh is gonna sound... similar. Yet there are people who like listening to their music. I like watching Radwańska's tennis. Part of the enjoyment is that it is so... predictable.

Lunaris
Jan 14th, 2009, 06:22 AM
I don't want to side with Corswandt in this matter, but he is right in one or perhaps two things. Like him I didn't notice anything drastically different in Agnieszka's game in comparison to how she played 12 months ago. And like him I would dispute the claim that if someone doesn't appreciate Agnieszka's game they don't understand tennis. But let's not go there again.

Corswandt
Jan 15th, 2009, 09:38 PM
Yes, Radwańska's variety tennis is predictable. Mozart's or Vivaldi's music also abounds in «some patterns» that are highly predictable. When you heard any ten of their concertos you can «predict» that the eleventh is gonna sound... similar. Yet there are people who like listening to their music. I like watching Radwańska's tennis. Part of the enjoyment is that it is so... predictable.

The predictability I mentioned had nothing to do with enjoying Radwanska's game or not. The only way I could enjoy Radwanska's game any less than I do now would be if she wore a Benfica shirt when playing.

My point was that, once the patterns in her tactical options become more obvious, her opponents may begin to develop more effective countermeasures.