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V's a star
Jan 12th, 2009, 05:20 PM
Venus is getting intense luvs it :hearts: JJ with the "flu" on court two days later :rolleyes:

http://images.theage.com.au/ftage/ffximage/2009/01/12/cam_Venus_etc_wideweb__470x216,0.jpg


http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport/tennis/open-performances-when-all-the-worlds-a-stage/2009/01/12/1231608618170.html


MARIA Sharapova has already announced that she won't be seen, Venus Williams doesn't want to be seen, and Jelena Jankovic sees the world as her stage. Ana Ivanovic, meanwhile, remains the contender everyone wants to see.

So was the scene at Melbourne Park yesterday, where three leading hopes for the Australian Open women's crown got their eyes in ahead of next Monday's start to the first grand slam of the year.

With Sharapova unable to shake a shoulder injury in time to defend her title, organisers praying for a withdrawal-scare-free week would have blanched at the news that world No. 1 Jankovic had shortened last week's Hong Kong hit-out citing a virus. Her presence on court two yesterday morning, sweating and scowling her way through a vigorous workout, was welcomed. A teensy hint of melodrama tends to follow Jankovic, the self-styled Serbian princess who rose to the top ranking by year's end despite not winning a major and reaching only one slam final, at the US Open. There were heavy sighs aplenty in yesterday's session, often directed at her Spanish coach, Ricardo Sanchez.

"Move, move," Sanchez implored his charge. There were hints that her health might not be as rude as she would like, with Jankovic panting heavily and sinking hands to knees several times during her 15-minute window in front of the cameras. A distressed Jankovic is hardly a novel sight; her last Melbourne outing, a semi-final loss to Sharapova last January, included a medical break and a bizarre post-match rant about the painkillers she was popping and how she didn't want to end up like Heath Ledger.

Yesterday's unease may have simply been down to working hard while throwing off an annoying bug, and Sanchez seemed unconcerned about anything beyond the fitness of her backhand and forehand.

"This important — many ball, many ball," he told an onlooker, before turning on Jankovic again and providing a theatrical demonstration of how she should be hitting through the ball, not up and over it. If Jankovic was taking notice, she hid it well.

Perhaps she was miffed at not getting first run on the main stage, where compatriot Ivanovic slugged it out alongside her Australian trainer Scott Byrnes.

The 2008 runner-up was all smiles, perhaps still thinking about the teenage ball boy who proposed to her in Queensland recently, although more likely happy to be back in a city she loves and over the dizziness and lethargy that forced her withdrawal from the Brisbane International.

Last season was a breakthrough for Ivanovic, who rose to No. 1 in the world after winning the French Open, but then had a spate of injuries that limited her preparation for the last two majors of the year and kept her out of the Beijing Olympics.

She is fit now and she appeared to relish hitting a ball over a net, over and over.

It's easy to smile when your life as a tennis pro is only five years old. Add another decade on the merry-go-round, and you might be moved to break off from your warm-up, call your nearest lackey, and order the removal of those pesky cameras that have come to watch you hit a ball.

When you've been playing as long as Venus Williams, it must be hard to see tennis as a game.

Tennisation
Jan 12th, 2009, 05:26 PM
ok, so i've made jokes about Jelena's dramatic ways, but when it comes down to it, I've never been harsh to her like other people have, but I've had enough with this bitch. So her immune system shuts down, couple days later she goes out on court and starts practicing. On top of that, she's pretending to struggle in front of the camera during a practic session. Somebody give her an Oscar already.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 12th, 2009, 05:29 PM
:worship:

Venus the real champion, JJ the petty pretender, and Ana the better Serbian

miffedmax
Jan 12th, 2009, 05:41 PM
ok, so i've made jokes about Jelena's dramatic ways, but when it comes down to it, I've never been harsh to her like other people have, but I've had enough with this bitch. So her immune system shuts down, couple days later she goes out on court and starts practicing. On top of that, she's pretending to struggle in front of the camera during a practic session. Somebody give her an Oscar already.

I must reluctantly concur. I have gone from kind of liking JJ--she has a playing style that's not unlike Myskina, whom I adored and a ready wit--to being lukewarm to actively disliking her in the course of the last year.

Some of her fans will doubtless attack me on the grounds that she has pretty much turned my fave into her bitch (the only Top 10 player this alleged #1 can claim any sort of dominance over) but I was able to live with that with Nastya for years and years, so I'm not convinced that's ALL of it, though it may be more than I want to admit.

But the constant manufactured melodrama, the attempts at humor that just fall flat, what seems to me the need for attention--they just grate on me at this point.

I'm not going to stoop to being a hater and go into all the JJ threads and gloat when she loses or take cheap shots at her accomplishments--I've been a staunch defender of her #1 ranking ever since she took it over. But I'm certainly not a fan.

There. I've said my piece and I'm done with it. I will now get back to supporting the players I like.

Dodoboy.
Jan 12th, 2009, 05:42 PM
Why does she do this?:rolleyes:

Vee :bounce:

LeRoy.
Jan 12th, 2009, 05:49 PM
I am glad more and more people are starting to see through JJ and her desperate acts for attention. :)

Dave.
Jan 12th, 2009, 05:49 PM
Go Ana :kiss:

and Venus :yeah: Of all the players I'm neither a fan or hater of, I'm rooting for Vee the most at this AO.

friendsita
Jan 12th, 2009, 06:06 PM
gO v

Dini.
Jan 12th, 2009, 06:12 PM
Go Vee!! Its yours for the taking. Kick some backside!!

And for the others, don't really care, Venus is all that matters for now and for eternity :yeah: .

danieln1
Jan 12th, 2009, 06:17 PM
Can´t wait for the slam to begin and see what JJ will bring to the court... Ana and Venus, the ones I want to win the tournament, along with Serena

Denise4925
Jan 12th, 2009, 06:29 PM
But the constant manufactured melodrama, the attempts at humor that just fall flat, what seems to me the need for attention--they just grate on me at this point.



This is my beef with her.

supergrunt
Jan 12th, 2009, 06:41 PM
I think jj is funny :o

Dodoboy.
Jan 12th, 2009, 06:43 PM
Venus looks like she is doing the Single ladies dance :angel: 'Up in the club, just rolled up' :dance:

new-york
Jan 12th, 2009, 06:46 PM
Venus looks like she is doing the Single ladies dance :angel: 'Up in the club, just rolled up' :dance:

Melbourne Ladies, Get The Trophy On It.:cool:

frenchie
Jan 12th, 2009, 06:48 PM
So Venus is already practicing in Melbourne?

She looks and sounds very motivated this year. I feel the best for her in 2009!

doni1212
Jan 12th, 2009, 07:12 PM
Perhaps she was miffed at not getting first run on the main stage, where compatriot Ivanovic slugged it out alongside her Australian trainer Scott Byrnes.


Australia knows who the better Serb is, :devil: And Ana will get the night matches too, ;)

ok, so i've made jokes about Jelena's dramatic ways, but when it comes down to it, I've never been harsh to her like other people have, but I've had enough with this bitch. So her immune system shuts down, couple days later she goes out on court and starts practicing. On top of that, she's pretending to struggle in front of the camera during a practic session. Somebody give her an Oscar already.

Couldn't agree more, :yeah:

Can´t wait for the slam to begin and see what JJ will bring to the court... Ana and Venus, the ones I want to win the tournament, along with Serena

Same with Serena first, :angel:

Venus looks like she is doing the Single ladies dance :angel: 'Up in the club, just rolled up' :dance:

Yeah, she does, :lol:

Melbourne Ladies, Get The Trophy On It.:cool:

:rolls:

GracefulVenus
Jan 12th, 2009, 07:23 PM
I hate the way the article is written :shrug: Not a good read at all.

MrSerenaWilliams
Jan 12th, 2009, 07:24 PM
I must reluctantly concur. I have gone from kind of liking JJ--she has a playing style that's not unlike Myskina, whom I adored and a ready wit--to being lukewarm to actively disliking her in the course of the last year.

Some of her fans will doubtless attack me on the grounds that she has pretty much turned my fave into her bitch (the only Top 10 player this alleged #1 can claim any sort of dominance over) but I was able to live with that with Nastya for years and years, so I'm not convinced that's ALL of it, though it may be more than I want to admit.

But the constant manufactured melodrama, the attempts at humor that just fall flat, what seems to me the need for attention--they just grate on me at this point.

I'm not going to stoop to being a hater and go into all the JJ threads and gloat when she loses or take cheap shots at her accomplishments--I've been a staunch defender of her #1 ranking ever since she took it over. But I'm certainly not a fan.

There. I've said my piece and I'm done with it. I will now get back to supporting the players I like.

:worship:

I liked Myskina too, and I even went through a phase when I liked JJ (she was nice to me when I saw her in LA in 2006...she even gave me her banana)...but this is OUT of CONTROL.

MaBaker
Jan 12th, 2009, 07:29 PM
:yawn:

:zzz:

LoveFifteen
Jan 12th, 2009, 07:29 PM
I love divas and drama!!! :hearts:
Thank God for Jankovic and her personality. Do we really need yet another bland, robotic unforced error machine in the top 10?

Wiggly
Jan 12th, 2009, 07:29 PM
I hate the way the article is written :shrug: Not a good read at all.

I agree.
Ana didn't withdrew, she lost badly to Mauresmo.
And she's not a leading contender at all. She should be happy with a fourth round.:rolleyes:

They didn't even speak of Venus, witch is currently the #1 favourite.

maya-serbia
Jan 12th, 2009, 07:30 PM
:lol:

Don't take any notice of these schoolchildren Jecalina.

You keep talkin and dramatizin' babe .... we luvz ya. :kiss:



Yeahhh baby :yeah:



Goooo JJ....haters :nerner:

winone23
Jan 12th, 2009, 07:37 PM
I love divas and drama!!! :hearts:
Thank God for Jankovic and her personality. Do we really need yet another bland, robotic unforced error machine in the top 10?

liars, cheaters, deceivers, and, attention whores are not my cup of tea.

winone23
Jan 12th, 2009, 07:38 PM
Go Venus and Ana!!

Costanza
Jan 12th, 2009, 07:39 PM
I agree.
Ana didn't withdrew, she lost badly to Mauresmo.
And she's not a leading contender at all. She should be happy with a fourth round.:rolleyes:

They didn't even speak of Venus, witch is currently the #1 favourite.

Then, for which round Hantuchova should be happy:tape:

soomaal
Jan 12th, 2009, 07:40 PM
Melbourne Ladies, Get The Trophy On It.:cool:

I got gloss on my lips, Hank on my hips
He got me tighter than a Naomi Campbell weave
Acting up, beefing up
Jelena cares less what you think.....

:lol:

Lets finish this Song for Venus....:hearts:

JackFrost
Jan 12th, 2009, 07:41 PM
Why is it, that 99% of the haters are Williams or Ivanovic-Fans? Hmmm... ;)

soomaal
Jan 12th, 2009, 07:42 PM
A good rep for anyone who comes up with the funniest lyrics!

LoveFifteen
Jan 12th, 2009, 07:43 PM
liars, cheaters, deceivers, and, attention whores are not my cup of tea.
Cheaters? Liars? Deceivers? Ummm, I think that's a little extreme. Tennis is a sport that we watch for entertainment value, at least some of us. JJ is a great addition to the tour, seeing as she is one of the very few top players that can force all-time greats like the Williams sisters to hit more than 5 shots in a rally, as opposed to most of the unforced-errors queens littering the top 20. I enjoy watching the Williams play Jankovic.
I think it's a little pathetic for us to lambast JJ for possibly exaggerating the flu. Who among us hasn't exaggerated an illness because we didn't feel like working on a particular day?
People take injury time outs and gamesmanship way too seriously.

LoveFifteen
Jan 12th, 2009, 07:46 PM
Why is it, that 99% of the haters are Williams or Ivanovic-Fans? Hmmm... ;)
Many Williams fans often despise any tiny little white diva who has a decent head-to-head against one or both of the sisters, despite the fact that she has a terrible serve, lacks power, and/or doesn't go for broke on every shot.

Wiggly
Jan 12th, 2009, 07:47 PM
Then, for which round Hantuchova should be happy:tape:

She's not described as a leading hope.
The journalist is saying everything is perfectly fine for Ana while any tennis fan know she's truggling in every match.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 12th, 2009, 07:52 PM
Why is it, that 99% of the haters are Williams or Ivanovic-Fans? Hmmm... ;)


After the cheap stunt she pulled off at USO ceremony , trying to steal Rena's glory on one of the most precious days of Rena's career, and all the other cheap antics she and her coach pull off , especially against the Williams, you cannot the blame the WS fans for not liking this classless joke of a woman(?) .

Costanza
Jan 12th, 2009, 07:56 PM
She's not described as a leading hope.
The journalist is saying everything is perfectly fine for Ana while any tennis fan know she's truggling in every match.

Sydney 2008. was also struggling for Ana and she ends up playing in final:worship:

vwfan
Jan 12th, 2009, 07:56 PM
Venus is getting intense luvs it :hearts: JJ with the "flu" on court two days later :rolleyes:

http://images.theage.com.au/ftage/ffximage/2009/01/12/cam_Venus_etc_wideweb__470x216,0.jpg


http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport/tennis/open-performances-when-all-the-worlds-a-stage/2009/01/12/1231608618170.html


MARIA Sharapova has already announced that she won't be seen, Venus Williams doesn't want to be seen, and Jelena Jankovic sees the world as her stage. Ana Ivanovic, meanwhile, remains the contender everyone wants to see.

So was the scene at Melbourne Park yesterday, where three leading hopes for the Australian Open women's crown got their eyes in ahead of next Monday's start to the first grand slam of the year.

With Sharapova unable to shake a shoulder injury in time to defend her title, organisers praying for a withdrawal-scare-free week would have blanched at the news that world No. 1 Jankovic had shortened last week's Hong Kong hit-out citing a virus. Her presence on court two yesterday morning, sweating and scowling her way through a vigorous workout, was welcomed. A teensy hint of melodrama tends to follow Jankovic, the self-styled Serbian princess who rose to the top ranking by year's end despite not winning a major and reaching only one slam final, at the US Open. There were heavy sighs aplenty in yesterday's session, often directed at her Spanish coach, Ricardo Sanchez.

"Move, move," Sanchez implored his charge. There were hints that her health might not be as rude as she would like, with Jankovic panting heavily and sinking hands to knees several times during her 15-minute window in front of the cameras. A distressed Jankovic is hardly a novel sight; her last Melbourne outing, a semi-final loss to Sharapova last January, included a medical break and a bizarre post-match rant about the painkillers she was popping and how she didn't want to end up like Heath Ledger.

Yesterday's unease may have simply been down to working hard while throwing off an annoying bug, and Sanchez seemed unconcerned about anything beyond the fitness of her backhand and forehand.

"This important — many ball, many ball," he told an onlooker, before turning on Jankovic again and providing a theatrical demonstration of how she should be hitting through the ball, not up and over it. If Jankovic was taking notice, she hid it well.

Perhaps she was miffed at not getting first run on the main stage, where compatriot Ivanovic slugged it out alongside her Australian trainer Scott Byrnes.

The 2008 runner-up was all smiles, perhaps still thinking about the teenage ball boy who proposed to her in Queensland recently, although more likely happy to be back in a city she loves and over the dizziness and lethargy that forced her withdrawal from the Brisbane International.

Last season was a breakthrough for Ivanovic, who rose to No. 1 in the world after winning the French Open, but then had a spate of injuries that limited her preparation for the last two majors of the year and kept her out of the Beijing Olympics.

She is fit now and she appeared to relish hitting a ball over a net, over and over.

It's easy to smile when your life as a tennis pro is only five years old. Add another decade on the merry-go-round, and you might be moved to break off from your warm-up, call your nearest lackey, and order the removal of those pesky cameras that have come to watch you hit a ball.

When you've been playing as long as Venus Williams, it must be hard to see tennis as a game.understatement, much??!!! :lol:

vwfan
Jan 12th, 2009, 07:58 PM
Go Ana :kiss:

and Venus :yeah: Of all the players I'm neither a fan or hater of, I'm rooting for Vee the most at this AO.great. glad to have your support.:wavey:

winone23
Jan 12th, 2009, 07:59 PM
Cheaters? Liars? Deceivers? Ummm, I think that's a little extreme. Tennis is a sport that we watch for entertainment value, at least some of us. JJ is a great addition to the tour, seeing as she is one of the very few top players that can force all-time greats like the Williams sisters to hit more than 5 shots in a rally, as opposed to most of the unforced-errors queens littering the top 20. I enjoy watching the Williams play Jankovic.
I think it's a little pathetic for us to lambast JJ for possibly exaggerating the flu. Who among us hasn't exaggerated an illness because we didn't feel like working on a particular day?
People take injury time outs and gamesmanship way too seriously.

I didn't bring anything up about JJ and the flu. Like I said in my last post: Liars, cheaters, deceivers, and attention whores are not MY cup of tea.

Dodoboy.
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:04 PM
I got glo on my lips, Hank on my hips
He got me tighter than a Naomi Campbelssl weave
Acting up, beefing up
Jelena cares less what you think.....

:lol:

Lets finish this Song for Venus....:hearts:

:worship::worship::worship::worship:

That's catchier than the original!

I wish i was creative :sad: I do write songs though but i don't want to ruin it :lol:

I need no permission
Did i mention
Don't pay her any attention
Cos you have to turn
And now she gonna learn

:angel: :haha:

winone23
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:07 PM
Many Williams fans often despise any tiny little white diva who has a decent head-to-head against one or both of the sisters, despite the fact that she has a terrible serve, lacks power, and/or doesn't go for broke on every shot.

:bs: there are many Williams fans who are JJ fans, I have never liked JJ and it has nothing to do with her head to head against the Williams sisters. I don't like JJ's personality or her game, it's like I said "not my cup of tea," but she's your cup of tea and there aint nothing wrong with that.

Olórin
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:13 PM
:bs: there are many Williams fans who are JJ fans, I have never liked JJ and it has nothing to do with her head to head against the Williams sisters. I don't like JJ's personality or her game, it's like I said "not my cup of tea," but she's your cup of tea and there aint nothing wrong with that.

I agree Winone; some posters need to stop with the amateur psychology and pathetic attempts at deduction which are indicative of their own mental state, rather than those they wish to disect.

SV_Fan
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:14 PM
I got gloss on my lips, Hank on my hips
He got me tighter than a Naomi Campbell weave
Acting up, beefing up
Jelena cares less what you think.....

:lol:

Lets finish this Song for Venus....:hearts:

I got gloss on my lips, Hank on my hips
He got me tighter than a Naomi Campbell weave
Acting up, beefing up
Jelena cares less what you think
Did forget to mention that Jelena wants some attention.
Cause she has no chance at winning a slam like this.
If she's talking then just put a muzzle on it.
If she's talking then just put a muzzle on it.
Cause keeps talking circles honey.
Dont be mad when she gets beat Alisa
(Chorus) Kelybano no no no no no nova
and Dementi e e eva e e e eva

maya-serbia
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:16 PM
After the cheap stunt she pulled off at USO ceremony , trying to steal Rena's glory on one of the most precious days of Rena's career, and all the other cheap antics she and her coach pull off , especially against the Williams, you cannot the blame the WS fans for not liking this classless joke of a woman(?) .

How old are you?13:confused:


Hhahaha,but you didn't say how ugly & bitchy was that cow Marry Carillo to JJ?

winone23
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:20 PM
I agree Winone; some posters need to stop with the amateur psychology and pathetic attempts at deduction which are indicative of their own mental state, rather than those they wish to disect.

I agree!

Uranium
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:25 PM
Anymore pics of Venus in Melbourne?;)

LoveFifteen
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:27 PM
Serena almost took her own life after what JJ did at the 2008 US Open ceremony, it was so hurtful and devastating! :sobbing:

IceHock
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:28 PM
:bs: there are many Williams fans who are JJ fans, I have never liked JJ and it has nothing to do with her head to head against the Williams sisters. I don't like JJ's personality or her game, it's like I said "not my cup of tea," but she's your cup of tea and there aint nothing wrong with that.


i'm not starting an argument or disagreeing or anything like that but everytime there is a jankovic thread, all the people bashing her are mainly williams fans, and that's just from what i've seen.

Denise4925
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:28 PM
Many Williams fans often despise any tiny little white diva who has a decent head-to-head against one or both of the sisters, despite the fact that she has a terrible serve, lacks power, and/or doesn't go for broke on every shot.

But we wouldn't care if it were any tiny little black diva?

SOA_MC
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:29 PM
Why is it, that 99% of the haters are Williams or Ivanovic-Fans? Hmmm... ;)

Nothing to do with liking Ana, It has to do with the migraines I get from rolling my eyes to the back of my head after hearing her latest stupid grab for attention.

Jankovic is a whiner plain and simple

Olórin
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:31 PM
i'm not starting an argument or disagreeing or anything like that but everytime there is a jankovic thread, all the people bashing her are mainly williams fans, and that's just from what i've seen.

Well you've seen different things to me then. Many, many non-Williams "fans" have made comments.

It is simply that at the moment, most of the people posting on GM are Williams Fans, so they'll always be heavily represented.

Denise4925
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:31 PM
I agree Winone; some posters need to stop with the amateur psychology and pathetic attempts at deduction which are indicative of their own mental state, rather than those they wish to disect.

:worship::worship::worship:

Just Do It
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:32 PM
What is this thread about, I dont get it :confused:

V's a star
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:32 PM
Many Williams fans often despise any tiny little white diva who has a decent head-to-head against one or both of the sisters, despite the fact that she has a terrible serve, lacks power, and/or doesn't go for broke on every shot.

haha!!! OMG the fact that shes white has 0% to do with it. Shes just not a respectable player at all. Ive never felt this way about a tennis player in my life. i like JH, liked Lindsay, didnt mind Martina, and have respct for sharapova cuz she is a champion in case u didnt notice there white lmao. JJ as i said before cheap, a liar, and the worst #1 in all of tennis history not respectable :lol:

Denise4925
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:34 PM
Nothing to do with liking Ana, It has to do with the migraines I get from rolling my eyes to the back of my head after hearing her latest stupid grab for attention.

Jankovic is a whiner plain and simple

:lol::lol:

IceHock
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:34 PM
Well you've seen different things to me then. Or you're want to make sweeping generalisations. Many, many non-Williams "fans" have made comments.


i'm not saying there aren't others, i've just seen a main group of williams who are always in them, there were two threads that got alot of posts about fed's comments and another one about jelena's physique, and i'm not saying that what she is saying isn't complete bs sometimes.

LoveFifteen
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:35 PM
It wasn't a white thing. Sorry it came across that way. There are no little black divas on tour. :sobbing:

I would love for there to be a short black diva on tour. The more tranny-like, the better!!! :hearts:

I was just thinking of people like Hingis and Henin ...

Dodoboy.
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:36 PM
I got gloss on my lips, Hank on my hips
He got me tighter than a Naomi Campbell weave
Acting up, beefing up
Jelena cares less what you think
Did forget to mention that Jelena wants some attention.
Cause she has no chance at winning a slam like this.
If she's talking then just put a muzzle on it.
If she's talking then just put a muzzle on it.
Cause keeps talking circles honey.
Dont be mad when she gets beat Alisa
(Chorus) Kelybano no no no no no nova
and Dementi e e eva e e e eva

So silly but i am laughing! Especially the end :lol:

Denise4925
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:37 PM
i'm not starting an argument or disagreeing or anything like that but everytime there is a jankovic thread, all the people bashing her are mainly williams fans, and that's just from what i've seen.

Well, I don't go in JJ threads so that leaves me out of that grouping of fans and probably many others as well.

Denise4925
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:39 PM
It wasn't a white thing. Sorry it came across that way. There are no little black divas on tour. :sobbing:

I would love for there to be a short black diva on tour. The more tranny-like, the better!!! :hearts:

I was just thinking of people like Hingis and Henin ...

Then why did you say it?

Olórin
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:39 PM
i'm not saying there aren't others, i've just seen a main group of williams who are always in them, there were two threads that got alot of posts about fed's comments and another one about jelena's physique, and i'm not saying that what she is saying isn't complete bs sometimes.

I see, well you can probably include me in that group. But that has nothing to do with the fact that I'm a Williams-fan or that I dislike Jelena (because I don't dislike her, just find her a little grating at the moment); but it's to do with the fact that I, like a lot of Williams fans, am posting on GM a lot at the moment. I'm looking in all the threads and posting in most of them. I don't think many Williams-fans are making a special effort to go out of our way to "hate on" Jelena. We're simply here.

IceHock
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:39 PM
Well, I don't go in JJ threads so that leaves me out of that grouping of fans and probably many others as well.


i know it's not you, your better than that.

vwfan
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:39 PM
i'm not saying there aren't others, i've just seen a main group of williams who are always in them, there were two threads that got alot of posts about fed's comments and another one about jelena's physique, and i'm not saying that what she is saying isn't complete bs sometimes.Well, I'm a Williams fan and I actually defended JJ in the Roger thread and I don't know about the physique thread.

Don't generalize. It's a really hard way to win an argument.

vwfan
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:40 PM
Serena almost took her own life after what JJ did at the 2008 US Open ceremony, it was so hurtful and devastating! :sobbing:what the heck did JJ do? tape anyone?

Just Do It
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:40 PM
I see, well you can probably include me in that group. But that has nothing to do with the fact that I'm a Williams-fan or that I dislike Jelena (because I don't dislike her, just find her a little grating at the moment); but it's to do with the fact that I, like a lot of Williams fans, am posting on GM a lot at the moment. I'm looking in all the threads and posting in most of them. I don't think many Williams-fans are making a special effort to go out of our way to "hate on" ( :rolleyes: ) Jelena. We're simply here.

Oh hell yes, you are. Hopefully not for too long.

IceHock
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:41 PM
Well, I'm a Williams fan and I actually defended JJ in the Roger thread and I don't know about the physique thread.

Don't generalize. It's a really hard way to win an argument.

lol well i can't go through the threads and write down every one of the names :p, if you didn't say anything wrong, then it is not targeted at you in any way, shape, or form.

vwfan
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:43 PM
Well, I don't go in JJ threads so that leaves me out of that grouping of fans and probably many others as well.ditto. I came in this thread, 'cause my fave is in the title. JJ and her antics were not the point. and as I said before, I actually defended JJ. Like I said, she didn't steal the #1. She played by the rules and is the #1. Finished. done.

Denise4925
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:44 PM
Oh hell yes, you are. Hopefully not for too long.

Why, are you planning on killing us all? After leaving me the following rep:

Venus the diva, JJ the... Jan 12th, 2009 03:38 PM JustDoIt Why dont you just die.

Olórin
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:44 PM
Oh hell yes, you are. Hopefully not for too long.

Says the person who didn't understand the thread :lol:

Shhh halfwit, back to bed.

vwfan
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:45 PM
lol well i can't go through the threads and write down every one of the names :p, if you didn't say anything wrong, then it is not targeted at you in any way, shape, or form.well, that's my point. that's why it's hard to generalize.

anyway, nice pic of Dani and best of luck to her.

Olórin
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:45 PM
Why, are you planning on killing us all? After asking me the following:

Venus the diva, JJ the... Jan 12th, 2009 03:38 PM JustDoIt Why dont you just die.


Only on the internet will you find such people :help:

Just Do It
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:46 PM
Why, are you planning on killing us all? After asking me the following:

No, I meant : WS will retire soon, so we wont get Williams crap in GM anymore :lol:

P.S your bad rep is not much better.

LoveFifteen
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:46 PM
Then why did you say it?
Because during the Williams career, there has always been a smaller, weaker, more defensive-styled little European girl with serve issues who somehow manages to keep a decent head-to-head with the sisters depsite the fact that "she totally sucks and just waits for the Sisters' errors and/or hits lucky shots and/or cheats". Hingis, Henin, JJ. (Tongue in check, naturally) They are all white. I could have said European instead. :shrug:

IceHock
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:46 PM
well, that's my point. that's why it's hard to generalize.

anyway, nice pic of Dani and best of luck to her.


yeah i know, i understand what your saying, good luck to venus to for the ao, she should fair well.

V's a star
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:47 PM
Why, are you planning on killing us all? After leaving me the following rep:

Venus the diva, JJ the... Jan 12th, 2009 03:38 PM JustDoIt Why dont you just die.

thats scary wat a freak

2Black
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:48 PM
I luv JJ - she can't help herself.

Denise4925
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:48 PM
No, I meant : WS will retire soon, so we wont get Williams crap in GM anymore :lol:

P.S your bad rep is not much better.

That you need some serious counseling??!! I think that's better by a long stretch. Wow!!

winone23
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:50 PM
i'm not starting an argument or disagreeing or anything like that but everytime there is a jankovic thread, all the people bashing her are mainly williams fans, and that's just from what i've seen.

I think it's a variety of fans that bash JJ, not just Williams fans. I rarely bash JJ and I didn't post any comments in the recent threads about her. When I saw Lovefifteen's comment about why he liked JJ, for some reason I decided to post why I didn't really like her.

Just Do It
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:50 PM
That you need some serious counseling??!! I think that's better by a long stretch. Wow!!

That just does not go.

V's a star
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:51 PM
Because during the Williams career, there has always been a smaller, weaker, more defensive-styled little European girl with serve issues who somehow manages to keep a decent head-to-head with the sisters depsite the fact that "she totally sucks and just waits for the Sisters' errors and/or hits lucky shots and/or cheats". Hingis, Henin, JJ. (Tongue in check, naturally) They are all white. I could have said European instead. :shrug:

Why the fuck does it matter??? U cud hav jus said there names like a normal person. But instead u say white players which obvisoly means sumthin dont even try in front. were done :help:
Actually no we aint done u can be blk asian watever n still be European u jus gotta be born there :tape:

Uranium
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:52 PM
No, I meant : WS will retire soon, so we wont get Williams crap in GM anymore :lol:
P.S your bad rep is not much better.

If 4 years is soon then :eek:

winone23
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:55 PM
Why, are you planning on killing us all? After leaving me the following rep:

Venus the diva, JJ the... Jan 12th, 2009 03:38 PM JustDoIt Why dont you just die.

wow uncalled for

vwfan
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:56 PM
Because during the Williams career, there has always been a smaller, weaker, more defensive-styled little European girl with serve issues who somehow manages to keep a decent head-to-head with the sisters depsite the fact that "she totally sucks and just waits for the Sisters' errors and/or hits lucky shots and/or cheats". Hingis, Henin, JJ. (Tongue in check, naturally) They are all white. I could have said European instead. :shrug:Stop Love Fifteen while you're behind. :lol:

BTW, Henin does not have a decent h2h against Venus. ;)

Anyway, I hope we get some more news about Venus' practice sessions since we didn't get much out of this article.

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 12th, 2009, 08:59 PM
Nothing to do with liking Ana, It has to do with the migraines I get from rolling my eyes to the back of my head after hearing her latest stupid grab for attention.

Jankovic is a whiner plain and simple

:haha:

Patrick345
Jan 12th, 2009, 09:04 PM
I can´t believe people are that stupid. Jankovic simply didn´t want to play that useless exhibition against Zheng, so she made up some excuse and told the organizers, that it is so bad she might not be able to play the Australian Open. Same crap as Serena and her ankle injury from Stuttgart that needed beach healing.

DOUBLEFIST
Jan 12th, 2009, 09:10 PM
I must reluctantly concur. I have gone from kind of liking JJ--she has a playing style that's not unlike Myskina, whom I adored and a ready wit--to being lukewarm to actively disliking her in the course of the last year.

Some of her fans will doubtless attack me on the grounds that she has pretty much turned my fave into her bitch (the only Top 10 player this alleged #1 can claim any sort of dominance over) but I was able to live with that with Nastya for years and years, so I'm not convinced that's ALL of it, though it may be more than I want to admit.

But the constant manufactured melodrama, the attempts at humor that just fall flat, what seems to me the need for attention--they just grate on me at this point.

I'm not going to stoop to being a hater and go into all the JJ threads and gloat when she loses or take cheap shots at her accomplishments--I've been a staunch defender of her #1 ranking ever since she took it over. But I'm certainly not a fan.

There. I've said my piece and I'm done with it. I will now get back to supporting the players I like.

Nice post. (all except for the #1 part, ;) )

DOUBLEFIST
Jan 12th, 2009, 09:17 PM
No, I meant : WS will retire soon, so we wont get Williams crap in GM anymore :lol:

Wishing doesn't make it so.

I would think that, after hearing/claiming this same thing for the past 4 or 5 years, you would know better by now.

BuTtErFrEnA
Jan 12th, 2009, 09:30 PM
Venus looks like she is doing the Single ladies dance :angel: 'Up in the club, just rolled up' :dance:

no way K!!!! don't put her in the same sentence as that talentless "singer" :ras: (:devil: waits for your response dodoboy)

Because during the Williams career, there has always been a smaller, weaker, more defensive-styled little European girl with serve issues who somehow manages to keep a decent head-to-head with the sisters depsite the fact that "she totally sucks and just waits for the Sisters' errors and/or hits lucky shots and/or cheats". Hingis, Henin, JJ. (Tongue in check, naturally) They are all white. I could have said European instead. :shrug:

being white has nothing to do with it :shrug: neither of those players have solid head-to-heads with both...so while they might be better at beating one, they usually struggle with the other (jj is leading venus but has just lost the last two big matches to serena in Miami and US Open so serena leads 5-3?), so that throws that theory out the window...and you act like most williams fans are black....error...you act like most williams fans dislike white players/divas...error...

facts: there are williams fans who *shock and wonder* like jj; there are some williams fans who like maria; there are some williams fans who like sveta (insert any other white/european girl who can give either sister trouble)...:shrug:

i think you should therefore accept your original theory as falsified and start over :shrug:

starin
Jan 12th, 2009, 09:36 PM
Because during the Williams career, there has always been a smaller, weaker, more defensive-styled little European girl with serve issues who somehow manages to keep a decent head-to-head with the sisters depsite the fact that "she totally sucks and just waits for the Sisters' errors and/or hits lucky shots and/or cheats". Hingis, Henin, JJ. (Tongue in check, naturally) They are all white. I could have said European instead. :shrug:

But you said white because race is very important to you and because you are a racist. :shrug: when I see these players the first thing I think of is great backhand, great serve, great movement, etc not the color of their skin. but obviously skin color is the most important factor to you seeing as you brought it up in a sentence that didn't need the qualifier of white in it to make sense.

And anyways Henin doesn't wait for errors, doesn't suck, was in better physical shape than both sisters in 2007 and has a great serve that she used as a weapon. So she doesn't fit in with Hingis and Jankovic at all. The only thing all 3 have in common is that they are white. JJ and Hingis are "weak", Hingis and Henin are "short" (JJ is actually as tall as Serena so :shrug:). But I guess the most important thing to you is that they are white and had a even or winning H2H against one of the WS.

So what have we learned from this thread?

LoveFifteen= racist and only loves white players that can beat black players cuz apparently skin color is the most important adjective when describing a player.

Serenita
Jan 12th, 2009, 09:40 PM
wow uncalled for

Why, are you planning on killing us all? After leaving me the following rep:

Venus the diva, JJ the... Jan 12th, 2009 03:38 PM JustDoIt Why dont you just die.
wow that's just sad!!

Denise4925
Jan 12th, 2009, 09:45 PM
no way K!!!! don't put her in the same sentence as that talentless "singer" :ras: (:devil: waits for your response dodoboy)



being white has nothing to do with it :shrug: neither of those players have solid head-to-heads with both...so while they might be better at beating one, they usually struggle with the other (jj is leading venus but has just lost the last two big matches to serena in Miami and US Open so serena leads 5-3?), so that throws that theory out the window...and you act like most williams fans are black....error...you act like most williams fans dislike white players/divas...error...

facts: there are williams fans who *shock and wonder* like jj; there are some williams fans who like maria; there are some williams fans who like sveta (insert any other white/european girl who can give either sister trouble)...:shrug:

i think you should therefore accept your original theory as falsified and start over :shrug:

:worship::worship::worship:

Denise4925
Jan 12th, 2009, 09:47 PM
But you said white because race is very important to you and because you are a racist. :shrug: when I see these players the first thing I think of is great backhand, great serve, great movement, etc not the color of their skin. but obviously skin color is the most important factor to you seeing as you brought it up in a sentence that didn't need the qualifier of white in it to make sense.

And anyways Henin doesn't wait for errors, doesn't suck, was in better physical shape than both sisters in 2007 and has a great serve that she used as a weapon. So she doesn't fit in with Hingis and Jankovic at all. The only thing all 3 have in common is that they are white. JJ and Hingis are "weak", Hingis and Henin are "short" (JJ is actually as tall as Serena so :shrug:). But I guess the most important thing to you is that they are white and had a even or winning H2H against one of the WS.

So what have we learned from this thread?

LoveFifteen= racist and only loves white players that can beat black players cuz apparently skin color is the most important adjective when describing a player.

:worship::worship::worship: Oops, looks like LoveFifteen shit and fell back in it. :lol:

Mikey.
Jan 12th, 2009, 09:52 PM
Serena almost took her own life after what JJ did at the 2008 US Open ceremony, it was so hurtful and devastating! :sobbing:

:spit:

fufuqifuqishahah
Jan 12th, 2009, 09:57 PM
:worship:

I liked Myskina too, and I even went through a phase when I liked JJ (she was nice to me when I saw her in LA in 2006...she even gave me her banana)...but this is OUT of CONTROL.

did u stroke it well

fufuqifuqishahah
Jan 12th, 2009, 10:02 PM
Because during the Williams career, there has always been a smaller, weaker, more defensive-styled little European girl with serve issues who somehow manages to keep a decent head-to-head with the sisters depsite the fact that "she totally sucks and just waits for the Sisters' errors and/or hits lucky shots and/or cheats". Hingis, Henin, JJ. (Tongue in check, naturally) They are all white. I could have said European instead. :shrug:

:D

liars, cheaters, deceivers, and, attention whores are not my cup of tea.

Serena?

Brena
Jan 12th, 2009, 10:02 PM
(jj is leading venus but has just lost the last two big matches to serena in Miami and US Open so serena leads 5-3?

Nope, Serena's leading their h2h 4-3 atm, but JJ's going to even it out as soon as she shakes off this ebola nuisance. :angel:

louisa.
Jan 12th, 2009, 10:04 PM
:inlove: All this hate. So beautiful isn't it?

Just Do It
Jan 12th, 2009, 10:04 PM
Nope, Serena's leading their h2h 4-3 atm, but JJ's going to even it out as soon as she shakes off this ebola nuisance. :angel:

Zoja :lol:

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 12th, 2009, 10:06 PM
Why, are you planning on killing us all? After leaving me the following rep:

Venus the diva, JJ the... Jan 12th, 2009 03:38 PM JustDoIt Why dont you just die.

Thats just utterly sad and desperately pathetic, Denise hope you live a long and happy life, dont pay attention to that moron.

BuTtErFrEnA
Jan 12th, 2009, 10:14 PM
Nope, Serena's leading their h2h 4-3 atm, but JJ's going to even it out as soon as she shakes off this ebola nuisance. :angel:

doesn't shake the fact that she lost Miami final and US Open final :ras: :lol:

BuTtErFrEnA
Jan 12th, 2009, 10:16 PM
did u stroke it well

are you thinking about him stroking it well :unsure:

soomaal
Jan 12th, 2009, 10:27 PM
:worship::worship::worship::worship:

That's catchier than the original!

I wish i was creative :sad: I do write songs though but i don't want to ruin it :lol:

I need no permission
Did i mention
Don't pay her any attention
Cos you have to turn
And now she gonna learn

:angel: :haha:

No you are great! You inspired me to continue your idea.:hearts:

Cause if you liked me then you should veelieve in me
And if you like her then you should suck on it
Don't be mad at me when you see me trash that bitch
And if you like that then you should veelieve in me

:lol::lol::lol:

I hope you like that! Jelena fans please don't hate on as this is solely for creative purposes and I do not endorse JJ hate. :angel:

SV fan I thought yours was hilarious well done, but as it stands Dodoboy is still in the lead with this one. :kiss:

pigam
Jan 12th, 2009, 10:28 PM
some of the posts in this thread remind me of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7nCyodUDrQ

;)

soomaal
Jan 12th, 2009, 10:29 PM
Come on guys stop fighting/bitching/moaning my fav is better than yours and join in with the hilarity that is the "Melbourne ladies" song!!

Continue the lyrics or reinvent your own. Funniest lyrics gets a good rep and the admiration of GM posters....

starin
Jan 12th, 2009, 10:32 PM
some of the posts in this thread remind me of:

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/m7nCyodUDrQ&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/m7nCyodUDrQ&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

;)

fixed it for you. :wavey:

And that's racist!!! :o

Pigam=racist!!

Pigam and LoveFifteen racists in love :inlove:


and :haha: @ the video

LoveFifteen
Jan 12th, 2009, 10:58 PM
BTW, Henin does not have a decent h2h against Venus. ;)

I remember. :lol:

That's why I said "one or both" in my original post, specifically cuz Henin did not have a good head-to-head against Venus. :)

LoveFifteen
Jan 12th, 2009, 11:00 PM
Oh my God, I am a racist. :sobbing:


:weirdo:

homogenius
Jan 12th, 2009, 11:03 PM
Oh my God, I am a racist. :sobbing:


:weirdo:

Oh noes :hysteric:

:hug:

V's a star
Jan 12th, 2009, 11:03 PM
Oh my God, I am a racist. :sobbing:


:weirdo:

:shrug:
sry shouldn't make dumbass comments

homogenius
Jan 12th, 2009, 11:04 PM
:shrug:
sry shouldn't make dumbass comments

Shut up troll.Even Venus's fans are ashamed of your posts.

V's a star
Jan 12th, 2009, 11:07 PM
Shut up troll.Even Venus's fans are ashamed of your posts.

i dnt care i speak the truth :angel: its hard to take i no

Ciarán
Jan 12th, 2009, 11:09 PM
Why, are you planning on killing us all? After leaving me the following rep:

Venus the diva, JJ the... Jan 12th, 2009 03:38 PM JustDoIt Why dont you just die.

Danilo :speakles:
I am utterly disgusted.

homogenius
Jan 12th, 2009, 11:10 PM
This thread sucks.We eat threads hating on Jelena for months now : she's a faker, a whiner, she doesn't deserve the n°1 spot etc...We got it !!
GM is in peak boring form cause of all these useless and repetitive threads.Most of fans here were whining about the lack of interests of the tour but when finally we have a top player who add something different and bring some entertainement she's bashed again and again.What do you want ? : more robots whith no personality who aren't able to keep a ball in play ? Stupid people.

LeRoy.
Jan 12th, 2009, 11:10 PM
OMG I am a little shocked by some of JustDoIt's and Lovefifteen's comments in this thread. :eek:

homogenius
Jan 12th, 2009, 11:11 PM
i dnt care i speak the truth :angel: its hard to take i no

No you're a useless troll who need a life in real world ASAP.

V's a star
Jan 12th, 2009, 11:18 PM
No you're a useless troll who need a life in real world ASAP.

omg i wud love to get back there. but unfortunately ive had bronchitis for a couple weeks n been stuck in bed. So i been postin more it aint my fault JJ has all these threads bout her drama n shit. What have i said that isnt true? PLEASE SAY SUMTHING!! cuz trolls go round saying shit that aint even real. Im all real baby :kiss: Stop takin shit so personal sumone said a raciest comment i aint jus gone lay down :wavey: none of ur business :wazzup:

AcesHigh
Jan 12th, 2009, 11:27 PM
This thread sucks.We eat threads hating on Jelena for months now : she's a faker, a whiner, she doesn't deserve the n°1 spot etc...We got it !!
GM is in peak boring form cause of all these useless and repetitive threads.Most of fans here were whining about the lack of interests of the tour but when finally we have a top player who add something different and bring some entertainement she's bashed again and again.What do you want ? : more robots whith no personality who aren't able to keep a ball in play ? Stupid people.

She's adding entertainment? No... many people would call her behavior disgraceful. It's not like this ridiculous drama is drawing in more fans. More people are being turned off to JJ.

These threads keep popping up b/c she's always saying something or doing something ridiculous.

I used to be a fan..then I became a closet fan..and now she just gets on my nerves. I hope she finishes her career slamless and maybe she'll redeem herself like Henin did... I hope she does.

homogenius
Jan 12th, 2009, 11:54 PM
She's adding entertainment? No... many people would call her behavior disgraceful. It's not like this ridiculous drama is drawing in more fans. More people are being turned off to JJ.

These threads keep popping up b/c she's always saying something or doing something ridiculous.

I used to be a fan..then I became a closet fan..and now she just gets on my nerves. I hope she finishes her career slamless and maybe she'll redeem herself like Henin did... I hope she does.

I understand the fact that she can be annoying for some (even for some of her fans at times, but isn't it the case for any other player ?).Really.

That being said, she brings fans (denying it would be ridiculous) and entertainment to the tour.GM (haters like fans)spent the past six months to speak about her mostly (despite the sisters wins in slams, the OG etc...).She brings something else.
Who are the top players with personality ? We have not so many of them that we can afford to spit on Jelena everytime she opens her mouth or the media use her to sell some stuff imo.
When she'll be as politically correct and nice and all as say Ana (no offense to her fans)you'll see the same people who are scrutinizing every move parole from her say that she's now boring.Is that what people want ?

Talking about personalities there are a lot of things that annoy me in Serena's off court personality but I'm able to admit that she brings something to the tour on and off the court (just for teh example).
What is happening for Jelena is that she's hated for the sole purpose of hating her most of the time.Most of the haters are Williams fans and they whine about things that we could esealy attribute to the sisters (dubious injuries being one of them but we could talk about Serena and the drama concept etc...).So, I don't see the logic in it sorry (and it makes me believe lovefifteen when he says that the main problem for these people is the fact that Jelena is a threat for their faves).

AcesHigh
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:10 AM
I understand the fact that she can be annoying for some (even for some of her fans at times, but isn't it the case for any other player ?).Really.

That being said, she brings fans (denying it would be ridiculous) and entertainment to the tour.GM (haters like fans)spent the past six months to speak about her mostly (despite the sisters wins in slams, the OG etc...).She brings something else.
Who are the top players with personality ? We have not so many of them that we can afford to spit on Jelena everytime she opens her mouth or the media use her to sell some stuff imo.
When she'll be as politically correct and nice and all as say Ana (no offense to her fans)you'll see the same people who are scrutinizing every move parole from her say that she's now boring.Is that what people want ?

Talking about personalities there are a lot of things that annoy me in Serena's off court personality but I'm able to admit that she brings something to the tour on and off the court (just for teh example).
What is happening for Jelena is that she's hated for the sole purpose of hating her most of the time.Most of the haters are Williams fans and they whine about things that we could esealy attribute to the sisters (dubious injuries being one of them but we could talk about Serena and the drama concept etc...).So, I don't see the logic in it sorry (and it makes me believe lovefifteen when he says that the main problem for these people is the fact that Jelena is a threat for their faves).

You sound like a Jelena fan. Serena is annoying, but at the same time, she's not lying, constantly complaining, etc.

What new fans is JJ bringing in by everything that is surrounding her? Is a non-fan going to tune in because they read online about a slamless #1? GM is not like the rest of the sports world. Having a personality is one thing... being annoying is another. People on here complain about ridiculous things all the time(Ana's squeaky shoes for example), but these kind of things have happpened over and over and over again to the point where it's not like it's something small or uncharacteristic of her.

To a fan, obviously these things arent going to bother you as much. However, to any objective viewer, this is getting out of control. Have you seen any non-JJ fans that aren't annoyed by this? And who is JJ a huge threat to aside from Venus? You can't complain about Serena fans b/c JJ is not more of a threat to Serena than anyone else. A lot of Venus/Serena fans actually liked Jelena. I, and many others, had a huge amount of respect for her.

Anyway, I'm sure this is not the last of this. You may think it's good for the sport... I think it's not.

Vaidisova
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:18 AM
Jelena practice Jan 13

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/01/fullj.12f7284aaf642da2fd74a85cf296f3d9/12f7284aaf642da2fd74a85cf296f3d9-getty-83874283qr007_australian_op.jpg
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/7d/fullj.9851a007510f45614cf570aa2ad11945/9851a007510f45614cf570aa2ad11945-getty-83874283qr006_australian_op.jpg
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/05/fullj.467ece64ac8df39b2eb7256b62e9699a/467ece64ac8df39b2eb7256b62e9699a-getty-83874283qr005_australian_op.jpg
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/16/fullj.6a4365bbb838b953b931be2edbc93621/6a4365bbb838b953b931be2edbc93621-getty-83874283qr003_australian_op.jpg

homogenius
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:23 AM
You sound like a Jelena fan. Serena is annoying, but at the same time, she's not lying, constantly complaining, etc.

What new fans is JJ bringing in by everything that is surrounding her? Is a non-fan going to tune in because they read online about a slamless #1? GM is not like the rest of the sports world. Having a personality is one thing... being annoying is another. People on here complain about ridiculous things all the time(Ana's squeaky shoes for example), but these kind of things have happpened over and over and over again to the point where it's not like it's something small or uncharacteristic of her.

To a fan, obviously these things arent going to bother you as much. However, to any objective viewer, this is getting out of control. Have you seen any non-JJ fans that aren't annoyed by this? And who is JJ a huge threat to aside from Venus? You can't complain about Serena fans b/c JJ is not more of a threat to Serena than anyone else. A lot of Venus/Serena fans actually liked Jelena. I, and many others, had a huge amount of respect for her.

Anyway, I'm sure this is not the last of this. You may think it's good for the sport... I think it's not.

lol Sorry but yes she's.

mmm People outside wtaw(casual followers of tennis)just enjoy Jelena the entertainer (they're not even aware about all this "overdramatic queen" stuff).People at the USO final appreciated her, despite the fact that she was playing Serena on her home soil.
And sorry, but yes Jelena is more a threat to the sisters than probably any active player : she is 3-4 against Serena, 5-4 against Venus.Which other active has better h2h with the sisters than her ?

Even if I like Jelena (and no I don't think I act like a "fan", I have not really the fan mentality in me, not even for players I like a lot)I can be objective : she is a positive thing to the tour.Btw, you didn't answer, who are the others top players with some personality ?

Denise4925
Jan 13th, 2009, 01:04 AM
some of the posts in this thread remind me of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7nCyodUDrQ

;)

More racist stereotypes from pigam.

Olórin
Jan 13th, 2009, 01:09 AM
lol Sorry but yes she's.

Provide examples otherwise retract your baseless assertions.

That's the problem with so many are full of it, full of themselves, but they have no substance or facts to back what they say.

Provide one instance of a lie. If you think she complains and whores media attention a lot that's far more subjective, but you need to come up with something.

Denise4925
Jan 13th, 2009, 01:14 AM
Most of the haters are Williams fans and they whine about things that we could esealy attribute to the sisters (dubious injuries being one of them but we could talk about Serena and the drama concept etc...).So, I don't see the logic in it sorry (and it makes me believe lovefifteen when he says that the main problem for these people is the fact that Jelena is a threat for their faves).

Aside from all of that other drivel. Is it me or is there a trend? :lol: Whenever there's a lot of hating on the boards, the WS fans always get blamed for all the hating. Nevermind that scores of fans from other players are also raining down hate on her. This happened with Hingis, JCap, Sharapova, Henin, now JJ. :lol:

Are the WS fans just convenient scapegoats? :lol:

Olórin
Jan 13th, 2009, 01:18 AM
I just love how such a diverse, eclectic and interesting group of people get lumped together as "Williams Sister fans".

It's just very poor terminology which belies the fact that people haven't thought about in depth, what they're acutally talking about.

Wiggly
Jan 13th, 2009, 01:19 AM
Jelena trying to adapt to her new body or trying to get back her old body?

homogenius
Jan 13th, 2009, 01:32 AM
Provide examples otherwise retract your baseless assertions.

That's the problem with so many here, full of it, full of themselves, but they have no substance or facts to back what they say.

Provide one instance of a lie. If you think she complains and whores media attention a lot that's far more subjective, but you need to come up with something.

We saw Serena complaining about ankles injuries but moving her ass two days after on the dancefloor with the like as Lil Kim or Paris.We saw her (not so long ago) withdrawing from a tournament after a tough loss claming yet another ankle injury.Few days after that she was surfing her way to the beach, walking on rocks etc...like nothing happened.
She withdrawn of Hopman Cup cause of an hamstring injury one month before the event (lol)while playing en exo at the same time.She supposedly had this harmstring injury since the YEC, but gave another reason when she quit at the YEC (:silly:).

I could go on and on but i don't think it's really necessary.It's part of her, she's like that.People can take the whole package, some others can appreciate her game but not so much her off court personality or how at times she acts towards the tour(like me)but still recognize that the tour needs players like her.
The same can be said about JJ imo (and it's why I post on it : there's a lot of hypocrisy behind all this hate, and I don't like hypocrits :)).
Denying than one of them brings something to the tour (and sometimes in the same way, it's maybe part of the problem for some)is just a total nonsense for me.Searching something to hate in every single word or move of one them is a waste of time and a hobby for the no-life.Neither will change and we should be grateful to have some players like them who can brings some game AND have personalities.
What JJ is receiving these days is just out of line imo.

homogenius
Jan 13th, 2009, 01:36 AM
Aside from all of that other drivel. Is it me or is there a trend? :lol: Whenever there's a lot of hating on the boards, the WS fans always get blamed for all the hating. Nevermind that scores of fans from other players are also raining down hate on her. This happened with Hingis, JCap, Sharapova, Henin, now JJ. :lol:

Are the WS fans just convenient scapegoats? :lol:

No, but honestly it's always the same posters you see starting shit out of nowhere when Jelena's name appears in the title of a thread(and they know who they are).Tho I must admit they're not alone : some of Maria (calm down girls, she'll come back :tape:)or Ana's fans are not the last ones to troll on this topic.

V's a star
Jan 13th, 2009, 01:58 AM
No, but honestly it's always the same posters you see starting shit out of nowhere when Jelena's name appears in the title of a thread(and they know who they are).Tho I must admit they're not alone : some of Maria (calm down girls, she'll come back :tape:)or Ana's fans are not the last ones to troll on this topic.

:yawn: God...... Dont u get it she deserves criticism and rely asks for it... but any homoretard and lovefifteen hav ruined this thread i shud just delete it. its about the freakin article!!! :shout:

Uranium
Jan 13th, 2009, 02:01 AM
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/3b/fullj.a480f045d6e3b46b0a7f4efbe3cb1b55/a480f045d6e3b46b0a7f4efbe3cb1b55-getty-83874283qr011_australian_op.jpg
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/56/fullj.9829ea377f207045f3cbbfeb9c563431/9829ea377f207045f3cbbfeb9c563431-getty-83874283qr010_australian_op.jpg
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/8f/fullj.f0a96b6e9f4f6c7bfc0981416d0a3c27/f0a96b6e9f4f6c7bfc0981416d0a3c27-getty-83874283qr008_australian_op.jpg
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/02/fullj.21282ece1b2aa937ecdb111c5f3c947d/21282ece1b2aa937ecdb111c5f3c947d-getty-83874283qr016_australian_op.jpg
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Junex
Jan 13th, 2009, 02:04 AM
liars, cheaters, deceivers, and, attention whores are not my cup of tea.


Are you sure?
Because you are a Serena Fan, right?

V's a star
Jan 13th, 2009, 02:04 AM
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/3b/fullj.a480f045d6e3b46b0a7f4efbe3cb1b55/a480f045d6e3b46b0a7f4efbe3cb1b55-getty-83874283qr011_australian_op.jpg
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/56/fullj.9829ea377f207045f3cbbfeb9c563431/9829ea377f207045f3cbbfeb9c563431-getty-83874283qr010_australian_op.jpg
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/8f/fullj.f0a96b6e9f4f6c7bfc0981416d0a3c27/f0a96b6e9f4f6c7bfc0981416d0a3c27-getty-83874283qr008_australian_op.jpg

Ana!!! go girl. Any Venus or she kick there ass out to soon?lol

Uranium
Jan 13th, 2009, 02:06 AM
If there were Venus pics, I would have quickly posted them, but I can't seem to find any and it's been 2 days(:lol:)

BuTtErFrEnA
Jan 13th, 2009, 02:11 AM
ana :hearts:

Orbis
Jan 13th, 2009, 02:26 AM
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/3b/fullj.a480f045d6e3b46b0a7f4efbe3cb1b55/a480f045d6e3b46b0a7f4efbe3cb1b55-getty-83874283qr011_australian_op.jpg
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/56/fullj.9829ea377f207045f3cbbfeb9c563431/9829ea377f207045f3cbbfeb9c563431-getty-83874283qr010_australian_op.jpg
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/8f/fullj.f0a96b6e9f4f6c7bfc0981416d0a3c27/f0a96b6e9f4f6c7bfc0981416d0a3c27-getty-83874283qr008_australian_op.jpg
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/02/fullj.21282ece1b2aa937ecdb111c5f3c947d/21282ece1b2aa937ecdb111c5f3c947d-getty-83874283qr016_australian_op.jpg
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http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/62/fullj.a757400fe835112fcca7b4fe683c2ede/a757400fe835112fcca7b4fe683c2ede-getty-83874283qr019_australian_op.jpg

Looking awesome :hearts:
Playing shitty :(

SOA_MC
Jan 13th, 2009, 03:45 AM
I understand the fact that she can be annoying for some (even for some of her fans at times, but isn't it the case for any other player ?).Really.

That being said, she brings fans (denying it would be ridiculous) and entertainment to the tour.GM (haters like fans)spent the past six months to speak about her mostly (despite the sisters wins in slams, the OG etc...).She brings something else.
Who are the top players with personality ? We have not so many of them that we can afford to spit on Jelena everytime she opens her mouth or the media use her to sell some stuff imo.
When she'll be as politically correct and nice and all as say Ana (no offense to her fans)you'll see the same people who are scrutinizing every move parole from her say that she's now boring.Is that what people want ?

Talking about personalities there are a lot of things that annoy me in Serena's off court personality but I'm able to admit that she brings something to the tour on and off the court (just for teh example).
What is happening for Jelena is that she's hated for the sole purpose of hating her most of the time.Most of the haters are Williams fans and they whine about things that we could esealy attribute to the sisters (dubious injuries being one of them but we could talk about Serena and the drama concept etc...).So, I don't see the logic in it sorry (and it makes me believe lovefifteen when he says that the main problem for these people is the fact that Jelena is a threat for their faves).

First surprised this is still open:eek::lol: don't want to start a fight again but did you visit GM the first 6 months of 2008? where you were assured there would be a few anti Ana threads on the first page and during Roland Garros the bashing only intensified to crazy levels there were some Jankovic fans who posted [Sweet Cleo] not polite things [/Sweet Cleo] in those threads

Sorry to good fans like Optima but it's funny seeing the same Jankovic fans who couldn't wait to post in those Ana threads, now complaining all the Jankovic threads are unfair

BuTtErFrEnA
Jan 13th, 2009, 03:56 AM
ain't it the truth audio :lol:

kwilliams
Jan 13th, 2009, 04:15 AM
ok, so i've made jokes about Jelena's dramatic ways, but when it comes down to it, I've never been harsh to her like other people have, but I've had enough with this bitch. So her immune system shuts down, couple days later she goes out on court and starts practicing. On top of that, she's pretending to struggle in front of the camera during a practic session. Somebody give her an Oscar already.

Why does everybody say this? I don't get it! She deserves a Razzie for her transparent, panto performances.

homogenius
Jan 13th, 2009, 04:20 AM
First surprised this is still open:eek::lol: don't want to start a fight again but did you visit GM the first 6 months of 2008? where you were assured there would be a few anti Ana threads on the first page and during Roland Garros the bashing only intensified to crazy levels there were some Jankovic fans who posted [Sweet Cleo] not polite things [/Sweet Cleo] in those threads

Sorry to good fans like Optima but it's funny seeing the same Jankovic fans who couldn't wait to post in those Ana threads, now complaining all the Jankovic threads are unfair

Imagine what it'd be if she was a real threat to the sisters (j/k);)

Honestly I have never been interested enough by Ana to enter those threads so I was certainly not one of the person who were bashing her and I couldn't tell if all that is true.Anyway, I'm not here to defend Jelena's fans.At the time, I'm sure you reacted and did something, just like some here are reacting to the hate vomited everyday on Jelena.
Besides that, there's a difference between battles of fans (which are fun most of the time)and what Jelena gets these days.I imagine JJ's fans could also enter every thread about Maria, Ana, Serena and Venus and make some very usefull comments about trannies or some doping methods but I'm glad they don't (and I don't see where is the fun in doing that).

Ian Aberdon
Jan 13th, 2009, 06:25 AM
Hilarious! Thanks for brightening up my morning, anti-JJ fans. You are all - how can I put it - pathetically funny, or funnily pathetic. :haha:

V - sorry to hear about your bronchitis, I've just got over the flu over Christmas - not nice & not a nice time of year to suffer illness.

Dodoboy.
Jan 13th, 2009, 06:32 AM
no way K!!!! don't put her in the same sentence as that talentless "singer" :ras: (:devil: waits for your response dodoboy)


I won't humuor you K :ras:

Dodoboy.
Jan 13th, 2009, 06:36 AM
No you are great! You inspired me to continue your idea.:hearts:

Cause if you liked me then you should veelieve in me
And if you like her then you should suck on it
Don't be mad at me when you see me trash that bitch
And if you like that then you should veelieve in me

:lol::lol::lol:

I hope you like that! Jelena fans please don't hate on as this is solely for creative purposes and I do not endorse JJ hate. :angel:

SV fan I thought yours was hilarious well done, but as it stands Dodoboy is still in the lead with this one. :kiss:

:worship::worship::haha: I can't follow that! You laid it down!

pigam
Jan 13th, 2009, 07:43 AM
fixed it for you. :wavey:

And that's racist!!! :o

Pigam=racist!!

Pigam and LoveFifteen racists in love :inlove:


and :haha: @ the video

thanks! :)

Just Do It
Jan 13th, 2009, 08:30 AM
If you would merge all JJ hate threads in the past couple of months, you would get a huge thread with 5000+ posts.

Davodus
Jan 13th, 2009, 08:44 AM
Why does everybody say this? I don't get it! She deserves a Razzie for her transparent, panto performances.

i agree! it is the least convincing acting possible

Chance
Jan 13th, 2009, 08:47 AM
thanks for posting the article.
Finally got to see a V pic in Melbourne + it's confirmed what we've all known about Jankovic.....

Princeza
Jan 13th, 2009, 09:25 AM
http://i41.tinypic.com/2ro53zo.jpg

Take that Serena :ras:
http://www.rides-mag.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/serena.jpg

louisa.
Jan 13th, 2009, 11:24 AM
:rolls: :haha: :worship:

Brena
Jan 13th, 2009, 11:33 AM
If you would merge all JJ hate threads in the past couple of months, you would get a huge thread with 5000+ posts.

If she loses stupidly at the AO, I'm opening another one that'll make reetard look like the most loyal JJ fan. http://smileyjungle.com/smilies/evil0.gif

ms. double fault
Jan 13th, 2009, 11:57 AM
hehe we all know about JJ's melodramatic attidude, so that's nothing unexpected :lol:

but i find the arcticle is very subjective somehow...
it's like JJ = that stupid, always lying bitch, who doesn't deserve to be number one; Ana = lovely angel, who's trashy 2nd half of the 08 season was just caused by a nasty injury (and btw, she didn't withdraw in brisbane, she lost!!) and Vee, the old beast, who doesn't want to have cameras around and feels that tennis is no pleasure any more... wtf??? weird journalist.

BuTtErFrEnA
Jan 13th, 2009, 12:06 PM
http://i41.tinypic.com/2ro53zo.jpg

Take that Serena :ras:
http://www.rides-mag.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/serena.jpg


:tape: omg :tape:



I won't humuor you K :ras:

spoiled sport :ras:

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 13th, 2009, 01:49 PM
If she loses stupidly at the AO, I'm opening another one that'll make reetard look like the most loyal JJ fan. http://smileyjungle.com/smilies/evil0.gif

Ewwww http://smileyjungle.com/smilies/badtaste14.gif

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 13th, 2009, 01:56 PM
Ewwww http://smileyjungle.com/smilies/badtaste14.gif

:haha:

gaviotabr
Jan 13th, 2009, 02:25 PM
Since it's a hot topic...

Ana was asked about JJ being Number 1 on a conference call the past night in Australia:

She defended Jankovic's position at the top of the rankings despite her compatriot having not yet won a grand slam.

"The world rankings take care of themselves," Ivanovic said. "Jelena is a great player who succeeds a lot and obviously any player can get to number one.

"It was a very, very close race for the number one position (at year end) and many players could have achieved it.

"So she deserves it."



http://www.sportinglife.com/tennis/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=tennis/09/01/13/TENNIS_Ivanovic_Nightlead.html

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 13th, 2009, 02:28 PM
How is saying this supporting JJ? lol

"The world rankings take care of themselves,Jelena is a great player who succeeds a lot and obviously any player can get to number one."


She is actually making fun of her by implying ''[if Jelena can be no.1] then anyone can be number !''

:haha: :rolls:

duhcity
Jan 13th, 2009, 02:33 PM
I think we need a mature General Messages forum, simply because there are JJ fans, and WS fans and Ivanovic fans and whateber else fans that don't have the need to bash and attack others for their favorites.


And really, a Williams fan talking about disliking lying? I value the WS because we can agree they're legends, but come freaking on. Its obvious that most of their withdrawals are simply because they don't want to play

дalex
Jan 13th, 2009, 02:35 PM
Judging by who's the main topic in GM lately there's only one diva on WTA tour at the moment - Ms "something completely different" Jankovic! :hearts:

Keep the hate threads comin'...

http://i43.tinypic.com/bfnmx.jpg

hingis-seles
Jan 13th, 2009, 02:38 PM
I don't understand how anyone, who claims to be a fan or supporter of Serena Williams, can attack Jankovic for being dramatic, when their own favourite is a drama queen AND a hypochondriac.

InsideOut.
Jan 13th, 2009, 02:48 PM
Great comment from Ana, managing to be classy and spiteful at the same time :haha:

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 13th, 2009, 02:57 PM
if ana is as sweet as they say she is, then I guess these back-handed compliments were not intentional. :lol:

Quote:
She defended Jankovic's position at the top of the rankings despite her compatriot having not yet won a grand slam.

"The world rankings take care of themselves," Ivanovic said. "Jelena is a great player who succeeds a lot and obviously any player can get to number one.

"It was a very, very close race for the number one position (at year end) and many players could have achieved it.

"So she deserves it."

Olórin
Jan 13th, 2009, 03:48 PM
I'm not sure why Serena (and Venus) keep getting dragged into this thread. Serena, Venus and Jankovic and the TennisForum posters that are fans of these players are entirely separate entities.

Is Serena the measuring stick for everything now? Can people not make a simple statement or point without reference to Serena Williams?

The Jankovic and Serena comparisons need to stop. They are two completely different people, with different personalities at very different stages in their careers and lives.

Serena is a drama-queen; but Jelena has simply become over dramatic. There is a difference. Jelena gets press about withdrawing from tournies, but she doesn't actually withdraw. Serena does withdraw from tournaments, occasionally, because she is very injury prone. Serena had a surgery five years ago which ruined her career. She is a hypochondriac by necessity.

AcesHigh
Jan 13th, 2009, 03:56 PM
I'm not sure why Serena (and Venus) keep getting dragged into this thread. Serena, Venus and Jankovic and the TennisForum posters that are fans of these players are entirely separate entities.

Is Serena the measuring stick for everything now? Can people not make a simple statement or point without reference to Serena Williams?

The Jankovic and Serena comparisons need to stop. They are two completely different people, with different personalities at very different stages in their careers and lives.

Serena is a drama-queen; but Jelena has simply become over dramatic. There is a difference. Jelena gets press about withdrawing from tournies, but she doesn't actually withdraw. Serena does withdraw from tournaments, occasionally, because she is very injury prone. Serena had a surgery five years ago which ruined her career. She is a hypochondriac by necessity.

I'd goodrep you but I have to spread it around :(

Serena and Jelena are INCOMPARABLE. It's one thing to have injuries that fans don't believe in... whether Serena is injured or not.. WE DON'T KNOW. We do know that many of her ailments are legitimate though.

Serena does not say she's dying and then plays 4 straight tournaments.. Serena does not frequently take injury timeouts or whine on court. Serena does not constantly try to draw attention to herself.. she is a superstar on her own merit and accomplishments. JJ is not. She's an attention whore who constantly claims she's injured yet constantly has the most matches played on tour.

Lucemferre
Jan 13th, 2009, 04:00 PM
I'm not sure why Serena (and Venus) keep getting dragged into this thread. Serena, Venus and Jankovic and the TennisForum posters that are fans of these players are entirely separate entities.

Is Serena the measuring stick for everything now? Can people not make a simple statement or point without reference to Serena Williams?

The Jankovic and Serena comparisons need to stop. They are two completely different people, with different personalities at very different stages in their careers and lives.

Serena is a drama-queen; but Jelena has simply become over dramatic. There is a difference. Jelena gets press about withdrawing from tournies, but she doesn't actually withdraw. Serena does withdraw from tournaments, occasionally, because she is very injury prone. Serena had a surgery five years ago which ruined her career. She is a hypochondriac by necessity.

Yes :rocker:

Lucemferre
Jan 13th, 2009, 04:03 PM
http://i41.tinypic.com/2ro53zo.jpg


Is that Jankovic? I couldn't recognize her without the nose job and whatever she did to her eyes.

Brena
Jan 13th, 2009, 04:05 PM
Great comment from Ana, managing to be classy and spiteful at the same time :haha:

I actually got the impression she had some trouble remembering what her team told her to say this time so it accidentally turned out a bit witty. :p

Matt01
Jan 13th, 2009, 04:09 PM
Serena is a drama-queen; but Jelena has simply become over dramatic. There is a difference. Jelena gets press about withdrawing from tournies, but she doesn't actually withdraw. Serena does withdraw from tournaments, occasionally, because she is very injury prone. Serena had a surgery five years ago which ruined her career. She is a hypochondriac by necessity.


Thanks for the laugh! :lol:

~Cherry*Blossom~
Jan 13th, 2009, 04:09 PM
I'm not sure why Serena (and Venus) keep getting dragged into this thread. Serena, Venus and Jankovic and the TennisForum posters that are fans of these players are entirely separate entities.

Is Serena the measuring stick for everything now? Can people not make a simple statement or point without reference to Serena Williams?

The Jankovic and Serena comparisons need to stop. They are two completely different people, with different personalities at very different stages in their careers and lives.

Serena is a drama-queen; but Jelena has simply become over dramatic. There is a difference. Jelena gets press about withdrawing from tournies, but she doesn't actually withdraw. Serena does withdraw from tournaments, occasionally, because she is very injury prone. Serena had a surgery five years ago which ruined her career. She is a hypochondriac by necessity.

I'd goodrep you but I have to spread it around :(

Serena and Jelena are INCOMPARABLE. It's one thing to have injuries that fans don't believe in... whether Serena is injured or not.. WE DON'T KNOW. We do know that many of her ailments are legitimate though.

Serena does not say she's dying and then plays 4 straight tournaments.. Serena does not frequently take injury timeouts or whine on court. Serena does not constantly try to draw attention to herself.. she is a superstar on her own merit and accomplishments. JJ is not. She's an attention whore who constantly claims she's injured yet constantly has the most matches played on tour.

Brilliant posts by both :worship: I couldn't agree more :yeah:

homogenius
Jan 13th, 2009, 04:12 PM
I'd goodrep you but I have to spread it around :(

Serena and Jelena are INCOMPARABLE. It's one thing to have injuries that fans don't believe in... whether Serena is injured or not.. WE DON'T KNOW. We do know that many of her ailments are legitimate though.

Serena does not say she's dying and then plays 4 straight tournaments.. Serena does not frequently take injury timeouts or whine on court. Serena does not constantly try to draw attention to herself.. she is a superstar on her own merit and accomplishments. JJ is not. She's an attention whore who constantly claims she's injured yet constantly has the most matches played on tour.

:spit:

Il Primo!
Jan 13th, 2009, 04:16 PM
Diva is the female version of a hustler.

~Kiera~
Jan 13th, 2009, 04:16 PM
Serena is a drama-queen; but Jelena has simply become over dramatic. There is a difference. Jelena gets press about withdrawing from tournies, but she doesn't actually withdraw. Serena does withdraw from tournaments, occasionally, because she is very injury prone. Serena had a surgery five years ago which ruined her career. She is a hypochondriac by necessity.

The only real difference is how you choose to perceive both players and their actions.

danieln1
Jan 13th, 2009, 04:27 PM
I'd goodrep you but I have to spread it around :(

Serena and Jelena are INCOMPARABLE. It's one thing to have injuries that fans don't believe in... whether Serena is injured or not.. WE DON'T KNOW. We do know that many of her ailments are legitimate though.

Serena does not say she's dying and then plays 4 straight tournaments.. Serena does not frequently take injury timeouts or whine on court. Serena does not constantly try to draw attention to herself.. she is a superstar on her own merit and accomplishments. JJ is not. She's an attention whore who constantly claims she's injured yet constantly has the most matches played on tour.

Very good post, just says it all!

V's a star
Jan 13th, 2009, 04:29 PM
Hilarious! Thanks for brightening up my morning, anti-JJ fans. You are all - how can I put it - pathetically funny, or funnily pathetic. :haha:

V - sorry to hear about your bronchitis, I've just got over the flu over Christmas - not nice & not a nice time of year to suffer illness.

Awww thnx u. it rely sucks n hurts :sad: sorry bout u 2. :wavey:


Now for the JJ hate itll stop soon like i said the new season has finally started JJ wont be #1 for that much longer :lick: then wat......................... jus another top 10er like she shud be

Dodoboy.
Jan 13th, 2009, 06:59 PM
Diva is the female version of a hustler.

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/csixbeyonce/divae.gif

terjw
Jan 13th, 2009, 07:01 PM
I think we need a mature General Messages forum, simply because there are JJ fans, and WS fans and Ivanovic fans and whateber else fans that don't have the need to bash and attack others for their favorites.


And really, a Williams fan talking about disliking lying? I value the WS because we can agree they're legends, but come freaking on. Its obvious that most of their withdrawals are simply because they don't want to play

Exactly.

terjw
Jan 13th, 2009, 07:27 PM
The Jankovic and Serena comparisons need to stop. They are two completely different people, with different personalities at very different stages in their careers and lives.

Serena is a drama-queen; but Jelena has simply become over dramatic. There is a difference. Jelena gets press about withdrawing from tournies, but she doesn't actually withdraw. Serena does withdraw from tournaments, occasionally, because she is very injury prone. Serena had a surgery five years ago which ruined her career. She is a hypochondriac by necessity.

occasionally :haha:- she does it all the time. And she picks up more fines than anyone else because they are not for a verifiable bona-fide injury.

There certainly is a difference. Jelena gets injured at tournaments she plays in - in public. Unless you just make up your mind not to believe your eyes - we know it's genuine. For example - Hopman Cup she couldn't walk. It was seen. Olympics was on one leg to start with. It was seen. Her match against Caro - the precise moment she ran for an impossible shot and horribly picked up that Meniscus injury. That is a serious injury as anyone who has had iyt will tell you. The doctors told her not to play the next match - but she did (before she knew the full extent).

All I see with the sisters is they are always pulling out at the last moment. Very suspicious when it's after a bad loss and you see her surfing the next moment.

When comparing Jelena and the WS - one is genuinely injured but tries to always honour her comittments. The other pulls out at a drop of a hat for questionable reasons. And the one who honours her committments if at all possible is accused of lying here :rolleyes:.

Tennisation
Jan 13th, 2009, 07:42 PM
Serena is a drama-queen; but Jelena has simply become over dramatic. There is a difference. Jelena gets press about withdrawing from tournies, but she doesn't actually withdraw. Serena does withdraw from tournaments, occasionally, because she is very injury prone. Serena had a surgery five years ago which ruined her career. She is a hypochondriac by necessity.Can I have sum of whatever it is ur smoking? Cuz I wanna feel what it's like to be a delusional Serena fan.

V's a star
Jan 13th, 2009, 07:49 PM
occasionally :haha:- she does it all the time. And she picks up more fines than anyone else because they are not for a verifiable bona-fide injury.

There certainly is a difference. Jelena gets injured at tournaments she plays in - in public. Unless you just make up your mind not to believe your eyes - we know it's genuine. For example - Hopman Cup she couldn't walk. It was seen. Olympics was on one leg to start with. It was seen. Her match against Caro - the precise moment she ran for an impossible shot and horribly picked up that Meniscus injury. That is a serious injury as anyone who has had iyt will tell you. The doctors told her not to play the next match - but she did (before she knew the full extent).

All I see with the sisters is they are always pulling out at the last moment. Very suspicious when it's after a bad loss and you see her surfing the next moment.

When comparing Jelena and the WS - one is genuinely injured but tries to always honour her comittments. The other pulls out at a drop of a hat for questionable reasons. And the one who honours her committments if at all possible is accused of lying here :rolleyes:.

Cud u please stop putting Venus in the same boat as Serena :rolleyes: and JJ :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Tennisation
Jan 13th, 2009, 07:55 PM
There certainly is a difference. Jelena gets injured at tournaments she plays in - in public. Unless you just make up your mind not to believe your eyes - we know it's genuine. For example - Hopman Cup she couldn't walk. It was seen. Olympics was on one leg to start with. It was seen. Her match against Caro - the precise moment she ran for an impossible shot and horribly picked up that Meniscus injury. That is a serious injury as anyone who has had iyt will tell you. The doctors told her not to play the next match - but she did (before she knew the full extent).THANK YOU for summing up the definition of a "Television Whore" :kiss:

soomaal
Jan 13th, 2009, 07:59 PM
Diva is the female version of a hustler.

Na na na diva is a female version of a hustla
of a husla
of a of a hustla
Na na na venus is a WTA version of a hustla

Stop the crap, let me state facts
I told you give me a chance, and I'll get that #1 back
Five Wimblies and 39 titles and they said that I couldn't get it
I've won, got #1 and bagged all the money I could get
How you gone be talking shit?
You act like I just got up in it
Been the number one diva in this game for a minute
I know you read the Planet Venus, the one that they call a queen
Every champion round the world know me
Cause that's where I be

Here we go again.:lol: I expect a better effort from all the Vee fans for this one!:fiery::kiss:

VishaalMaria
Jan 13th, 2009, 08:13 PM
occasionally :haha:- she does it all the time. And she picks up more fines than anyone else because they are not for a verifiable bona-fide injury.

There certainly is a difference. Jelena gets injured at tournaments she plays in - in public. Unless you just make up your mind not to believe your eyes - we know it's genuine. For example - Hopman Cup she couldn't walk. It was seen. Olympics was on one leg to start with. It was seen. Her match against Caro - the precise moment she ran for an impossible shot and horribly picked up that Meniscus injury. That is a serious injury as anyone who has had iyt will tell you. The doctors told her not to play the next match - but she did (before she knew the full extent).

All I see with the sisters is they are always pulling out at the last moment. Very suspicious when it's after a bad loss and you see her surfing the next moment.

When comparing Jelena and the WS - one is genuinely injured but tries to always honour her comittments. The other pulls out at a drop of a hat for questionable reasons. And the one who honours her committments if at all possible is accused of lying here :rolleyes:.

You definitely need to stop over-stating things.

The Hopman Cup last year involved the US beating Serbia in doubles and Jelena played that match, so it wasn't as if she couldn't walk. With regards to the Olympics, Jelena seemed perfectly fine and why wouldn't she be? She was fit. If she wasn't fit, then she wouldn't have played. Simple as really. And all this "honoring a committment" is rubbish; it's one thing to honor a committment but it's another to enter and play a tournament injured which is just plain stupid IMHO. Which again, leads me to believe that Jelena maybe wasn't injured or at the very least over-hyped her situations!

And you referenced "WS" i.e. The Williams Sisters, but you've only commented on Serena; need i remind you that the Williams aren't a package deal, they are two different people and Venus' name shouldn't be concerned when talking about withdrawals and questionnable injuries.

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 13th, 2009, 08:16 PM
I actually got the impression she had some trouble remembering what her team told her to say this time so it accidentally turned out a bit witty. :p

:rolls: :haha:

Olórin
Jan 13th, 2009, 08:26 PM
The only real difference is how you choose to perceive both players and their actions.

It is one difference, but no it's not the only real difference.

occasionally :haha:- she does it all the time. And she picks up more fines than anyone else because they are not for a verifiable bona-fide injury.

There certainly is a difference. Jelena gets injured at tournaments she plays in - in public. Unless you just make up your mind not to believe your eyes - we know it's genuine. For example - Hopman Cup she couldn't walk. It was seen. Olympics was on one leg to start with. It was seen. Her match against Caro - the precise moment she ran for an impossible shot and horribly picked up that Meniscus injury. That is a serious injury as anyone who has had iyt will tell you. The doctors told her not to play the next match - but she did (before she knew the full extent).

All I see with the sisters is they are always pulling out at the last moment. Very suspicious when it's after a bad loss and you see her surfing the next moment.

When comparing Jelena and the WS - one is genuinely injured but tries to always honour her comittments. The other pulls out at a drop of a hat for questionable reasons. And the one who honours her committments if at all possible is accused of lying here :rolleyes:.

No. Some of what you state is simply not correct.

When was the last time Venus pulled out of a tournament? First thing you need to do is stop lumping Venus and Serena together. Perhaps this will help remedy your blanket statements. I want facts and figures please. Stop these sweeping generalisations, you're making yourself look stupid.

I can think of two tournaments Serena pulled out of last year. She was injured for both as far as I or you know. There were no pictures of Serena surfing, there is one picture of her standing on a surf board in the shallows. She went on holiday to recover from her injury? Gentle exercise aided her rehabilitation? Who knows? One shouldn't leap to conclusions.

Jelena is becoming a liar and an ostentatious enhibitionist, and you are, quite poorly I might add, defending her.

Olórin
Jan 13th, 2009, 08:27 PM
THANK YOU for summing up the definition of a "Television Whore" :kiss:

Yes exactly, it was seen. She made sure as hell that 'it' was seen. Then miraculously recovers as soon as she gets a few rounds into the tournament i.e. the Olympics.

Olórin
Jan 13th, 2009, 08:37 PM
Can I have sum of whatever it is ur smoking? Cuz I wanna feel what it's like to be a delusional Serena fan.

Go and buy your own drugs and forumulate your own thoughts while you're at it. It may be easier than you fear.

Mikey.
Jan 13th, 2009, 08:39 PM
It is one difference, but no it's not the only real difference.



No. Some of what you state is simply not correct.

When was the last time Venus pulled out of a tournament? First thing you need to do is stop lumping Venus and Serena together. Perhaps this will help remedy your blanket statements. I want facts and figures please. Stop these sweeping generalisations, you're making yourself look stupid.

I can think of two tournaments Serena pulled out of last year. She was injured for both as far as I or you know. There were no pictures of Serena surfing, there is one picture of her standing on a surf board in the shallows. She went on holiday to recover from her injury? Gentle exercise aided her rehabilitation? Who knows? One shouldn't leap to conclusions.

Jelena is becoming a liar and an ostentatious enhibitionist, and you are, quite poorly I might add, defending her.

One should take their own advice. :eek:

Diesel
Jan 13th, 2009, 08:41 PM
Cud u please stop putting Venus in the same boat as Serena :rolleyes: and JJ :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

How did Serena's name get put into the mix when it was a Venus fan, you, who started this thread?

Olórin
Jan 13th, 2009, 08:45 PM
One should take their own advice. :eek:

One should think before one posts. How is that leaping to a conclusion? "Becoming a liar" is certainly strong wording but she is. Saying she will pull out of the AO when she obviously isn't going to. That's called lying, my friend.

Also, most of the tennis world would agree she's an ostentatious exhibitionist, so I hardly think that's leaping to a conclusion either. It's pretty obvious to see in every match she plays.

It's funny, I've been forced to lay into her to defend my position from the people who can't rationalise an argument. Yet I actually don't mind her. I think the tour his definitely better off for having her. Jankovic's rivalry with Serena is my favourite current one along with Serena-Venus. I simply find her a bit much at the moment, and the situation seems to be deteriorating. I will point it out if I wish. I will defend my position if questioned. And I will defend Serena when she is unfairly dragged into a debate that has nothing whatsoever to do with her.

Mikey.
Jan 13th, 2009, 09:09 PM
One should think before one posts. How is that leaping to a conclusion? "Becoming a liar" is certainly strong wording but she is. Saying she will pull out of the AO when she obviously isn't going to. That's called lying, my friend.

Also, most of the tennis world would agree she's an ostentatious exhibitionist, so I hardly think that's leaping to a conclusion either. It's pretty obvious to see in every match she plays.

It's funny, I've been forced to lay into her to defend my position from the people who can't rationalise an argument. Yet I actually don't mind her. I think the tour his definitely better off for having her. Jankovic's rivalry with Serena is my favourite current one along with Serena-Venus. I simply find her a bit much at the moment, and the situation seems to be deteriorating. I will point it out if I wish. I will defend my position if questioned. And I will defend Serena when she is unfairly dragged into a debate that has nothing whatsoever to do with her.


She didn't say she was going to pull out. She said she was in doubt. So it isn't really lying when she turns up after she said she was in doubt because being in doubt means you are unsure. Saying she is lying there is just an exaggeration. And how can you leap to the conclusion that she wasn't actually in doubt? Just because she may have over exaggerated some injuries before doesn't mean this one isn't as bad as she says it is. If you don't mind her then why wont you give her the benefit of the doubt?

V's a star
Jan 13th, 2009, 09:14 PM
How did Serena's name get put into the mix when it was a Venus fan, you, who started this thread?

what???????? i have no idea wat ur tryin to say...
read the thread.............

Brena
Jan 13th, 2009, 09:19 PM
Not only is she a liar, she's also a thief - just remember poor Sofia Arvidsson and the massage appointment JJ ripped her off!! :tears:
And a murderer too - I bet that AO match with Tamira killed a couple of their fans.

homogenius
Jan 13th, 2009, 09:19 PM
It is one difference, but no it's not the only real difference.



No. Some of what you state is simply not correct.

When was the last time Venus pulled out of a tournament? First thing you need to do is stop lumping Venus and Serena together. Perhaps this will help remedy your blanket statements. I want facts and figures please. Stop these sweeping generalisations, you're making yourself look stupid.

I can think of two tournaments Serena pulled out of last year. She was injured for both as far as I or you know. There were no pictures of Serena surfing, there is one picture of her standing on a surf board in the shallows. She went on holiday to recover from her injury? Gentle exercise aided her rehabilitation? Who knows? One shouldn't leap to conclusions.

Jelena is becoming a liar and an ostentatious enhibitionist, and you are, quite poorly I might add, defending her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Av96JiqOI

Sure.Nice way to heal an ankle injury (just few days after withdrawing from Moscwow)).Best part is at 0:50 lol
BTW, Common seems useless :tape:

You want facts, but when some here provided some examples you didn't answer anything.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 13th, 2009, 09:26 PM
I'd goodrep you but I have to spread it around :(

Serena and Jelena are INCOMPARABLE. It's one thing to have injuries that fans don't believe in... whether Serena is injured or not.. WE DON'T KNOW. We do know that many of her ailments are legitimate though.

Serena does not say she's dying and then plays 4 straight tournaments.. Serena does not frequently take injury timeouts or whine on court. Serena does not constantly try to draw attention to herself.. she is a superstar on her own merit and accomplishments. JJ is not. She's an attention whore who constantly claims she's injured yet constantly has the most matches played on tour.

:worship:

Optima
Jan 13th, 2009, 09:41 PM
I don't understand how anyone, who claims to be a fan or supporter of Serena Williams, can attack Jankovic for being dramatic, when their own favourite is a drama queen AND a hypochondriac.

Thank God, someone said it.

:tape: :worship:

AcesHigh has always been one to think he/she/whatever thinks they know everything about tennis. The double standards are amazing; sure, Jelena gets injured and plays 4 tournaments in a row, but people recover differently, Serena fans above all else should know about that. Not to mention JJ usually plays shit tennis after.

Tennisstar86
Jan 13th, 2009, 09:48 PM
Thank God, someone said it.

:tape: :worship:

AcesHigh has always been one to think he/she/whatever thinks they know everything about tennis. The double standards are amazing; sure, Jelena gets injured and plays 4 tournaments in a row, but people recover differently, Serena fans above all else should know about that. Not to mention JJ usually plays shit tennis after.

yeah, people recover differently, but if you tear a ligiment, strain something its not better 1 or 2 days later.....

Not to wish anyone ill, but the dramatics she pulls when she actually gets injured will be something, she'll prolly call a press conference from her death bed if she ever did maybe strain a wrist.


anyways.... I love the intesity in Venus' eyes. Looks like one thing is on her mind and thats leaving Ao on top.

The Daviator
Jan 13th, 2009, 09:52 PM
I'd goodrep you but I have to spread it around :(

Serena and Jelena are INCOMPARABLE. It's one thing to have injuries that fans don't believe in... whether Serena is injured or not.. WE DON'T KNOW. We do know that many of her ailments are legitimate though.

Serena does not say she's dying and then plays 4 straight tournaments.. Serena does not frequently take injury timeouts or whine on court. Serena does not constantly try to draw attention to herself.. she is a superstar on her own merit and accomplishments. JJ is not. She's an attention whore who constantly claims she's injured yet constantly has the most matches played on tour.

Another :worship: for this post.

The Dawntreader
Jan 13th, 2009, 10:00 PM
I feel a song coming on......... :haha:

'Diva's make the world go round
bash the liars in the ground.
Who wants hope, when power is certain
The Diva has won, pull down the curtain!

Diesel
Jan 13th, 2009, 10:55 PM
what???????? i have no idea wat ur tryin to say...
read the thread.............

I've read the thread just fine. Venus, Jelena and Ana are in the thread title, and somehow you Venus fans are getting all sensitive because Jelena's injuries are being compared to Serena and by extension Venus and I ask again, how did a thread that has nothing to do with Serena have her all involved in it? I've seen you, Zadent for example want to separate Serena and Venus and I'm thinking to myself it wouldn't have been necessary if the thread wasn't up to begin with. It was all fine when some posters remarked that it was 'Williams' fans going at Jelena, but have it be Williams sisters injuries and suddenly there needs to be a distinction. Don't start bullshit threads.

Denise4925
Jan 14th, 2009, 12:55 AM
I'm not sure why Serena (and Venus) keep getting dragged into this thread. Serena, Venus and Jankovic and the TennisForum posters that are fans of these players are entirely separate entities.

Is Serena the measuring stick for everything now? Can people not make a simple statement or point without reference to Serena Williams?

The Jankovic and Serena comparisons need to stop. They are two completely different people, with different personalities at very different stages in their careers and lives.

Serena is a drama-queen; but Jelena has simply become over dramatic. There is a difference. Jelena gets press about withdrawing from tournies, but she doesn't actually withdraw. Serena does withdraw from tournaments, occasionally, because she is very injury prone. Serena had a surgery five years ago which ruined her career. She is a hypochondriac by necessity.

I'd goodrep you but I have to spread it around :(

Serena and Jelena are INCOMPARABLE. It's one thing to have injuries that fans don't believe in... whether Serena is injured or not.. WE DON'T KNOW. We do know that many of her ailments are legitimate though.

Serena does not say she's dying and then plays 4 straight tournaments.. Serena does not frequently take injury timeouts or whine on court. Serena does not constantly try to draw attention to herself.. she is a superstar on her own merit and accomplishments. JJ is not. She's an attention whore who constantly claims she's injured yet constantly has the most matches played on tour.

Excellent. :worship::worship::worship:

Denise4925
Jan 14th, 2009, 12:59 AM
occasionally :haha:- she does it all the time. And she picks up more fines than anyone else because they are not for a verifiable bona-fide injury.

.

Really??!! Where did you get that information? :confused:

Denise4925
Jan 14th, 2009, 01:04 AM
One should think before one posts. How is that leaping to a conclusion? "Becoming a liar" is certainly strong wording but she is. Saying she will pull out of the AO when she obviously isn't going to. That's called lying, my friend.

Also, most of the tennis world would agree she's an ostentatious exhibitionist, so I hardly think that's leaping to a conclusion either. It's pretty obvious to see in every match she plays.

It's funny, I've been forced to lay into her to defend my position from the people who can't rationalise an argument. Yet I actually don't mind her. I think the tour his definitely better off for having her. Jankovic's rivalry with Serena is my favourite current one along with Serena-Venus. I simply find her a bit much at the moment, and the situation seems to be deteriorating. I will point it out if I wish. I will defend my position if questioned. And I will defend Serena when she is unfairly dragged into a debate that has nothing whatsoever to do with her.

:worship::worship::worship: Tell it like it is SL. :lol:

BuTtErFrEnA
Jan 14th, 2009, 01:06 AM
Really??!! Where did you get that information? :confused:

why bother trying queen de?? :shrug:

Denise4925
Jan 14th, 2009, 01:24 AM
why bother trying queen de?? :shrug:

I'm just wondering how is it that non-fans get this information and those of us who are fans and follow Serena's every move haven't heard this. :lol:

As far as hingis-seles little comment about Serena fans, it can be applied to him/her as well with a favorite like Hingis. Not only is she a quitter because she couldn't compete any longer with the big hitters, but got drummed off the tour after her less than successful "comeback" for being a coke-head. :rolleyes: Every player has stuff that can be said about them. Everybody does it and Serena fans have just as much right to do it as any other fanbase.

People have their preferences. Yes Serena is a drama queen, yes she lies and yes she withdraws from tourneys on a consistent basis, but she is a 9-time GS champion and she's No. 2 in the world on her way to taking the No. 1 again and no one can take that away from her. We love her and take her with her faults. Just as JJ fans love her with all her faults.

Some of us don't even like JJ, let alone love her and don't like her attitude on or off court which is why we criticise her. In other words, because she is not liked by certain fans, her faults are not accepted as you accept them. And, even though her lying, faking, drama can be applied to Serena as well, we as fans have every right to express those feelings about her, as some of you have expressed about Serena. Like Serena, she is not above criticism, especially since she's No. 1. It just goes with the territory, so get used to it. We have.

V's a star
Jan 14th, 2009, 01:33 AM
I've read the thread just fine. Venus, Jelena and Ana are in the thread title, and somehow you Venus fans are getting all sensitive because Jelena's injuries are being compared to Serena and by extension Venus and I ask again, how did a thread that has nothing to do with Serena have her all involved in it? I've seen you, Zadent for example want to separate Serena and Venus and I'm thinking to myself it wouldn't have been necessary if the thread wasn't up to begin with. It was all fine when some posters remarked that it was 'Williams' fans going at Jelena, but have it be Williams sisters injuries and suddenly there needs to be a distinction. Don't start bullshit threads.

Again wtf are u tryin to say, and y u talking to me???? Did i bring up Serena? NO sum JJ fan did to compare the W.S. to JJ saying that Serena n Venus are like Jankovic (constantly injured with sumthing but seemingly continues to play fine and all her other drama bs) no thats def JJ, Serena pulls out, sumtimes Venus bécause they most likely have a real injury!!. All i said was please dont put Venus in the same boat as Serena and particularly JJ :shout: Venus is a true sportswomen and deserves more then that.

And the williams fan shit ur talking about. I constantly let it be known i am just a Venus fan. but Sumhow im always lumped in with W.S. by people like u. And finally how does this thread put the W.S. together :cuckoo: I started it wit an article about Venus,Ana,n JJ it aint my fualt people talked on for 14 pages, why dont u talk to them:confused:

God u make me write way to much for no reason:yawn:

дalex
Jan 14th, 2009, 08:09 AM
Saying she will pull out of the AO when she obviously isn't going to. That's called lying, my friend.


She didn't say she was going to pull out. She said she was in doubt.

:spit:

NO. She never said she was in doubt for AO either. It was the journalist who put that in the title of the article. She only said that due to her sickness she may not have the time to get ready for AO.


People have their preferences. Yes Serena is a drama queen, yes she lies and yes she withdraws from tourneys on a consistent basis, but she is a 9-time GS champion and she's No. 2 in the world on her way to taking the No. 1 again and no one can take that away from her. We love her and take her with her faults. Just as JJ fans love her with all her faults.

Thanks for that! I guess that was the purpose of Jelena-Serena comparison - to show obvious double standards of some members of this forum. I didn't bring up Serena in this thread, but I don't think it was uncalled for because most of the fans on this forum who are belittling JJ's achievements (no matter how poor they look compared to Serena's) are some Serena and Venus fans. No one can take away JJ's success of becoming #1 from her either, but I don't think that having that kind of achievement should be the main reason for supporting a player. I love both Jelena and Serena for their games AND personalities and maybe that's why it's hard for ME to understand posts of some Serena fans in these threads. You said it yourself - some (if not most) parts of their personalities are indeed similar. So, that leads some JJ fans to conclusion that the biggest reason for JJ hate is the fact that she has a good record against both WS.

Like Serena, she is not above criticism, especially since she's No. 1. It just goes with the territory, so get used to it. We have.

Amen! :worship:

So have we and I don't see JJ fans reacting to hate threads any differently than Serena fans. It's just that we can't bring up the multiple GS champion argument in her defense, but now we do have #1 ranking and the fact that our girl is the best (;)) goddamn player in the world to "annoy" other fanbases. As we can see, it brings lots of "fun" to these parts of the forum.

Just Do It
Jan 14th, 2009, 08:19 AM
This thread is still going ? :spit: Why dont you move it to Williams' forum and hate about other players there.

Dave.
Jan 14th, 2009, 08:36 AM
:spit:




Thanks for that! I guess that was the purpose of Jelena-Serena comparison - to show obvious double standards of some members of this forum. I didn't bring up Serena in this thread, but I don't think it was uncalled for because most of the fans on this forum who are belittling JJ's achievements (no matter how poor they look compared to Serena's) are some Serena and Venus fans. No one can take away JJ's success of becoming #1 from her either, but I don't think that having that kind of achievement should be the main reason for supporting a player. I love both Jelena and Serena for their games AND personalities and maybe that's why it's hard for ME to understand posts of some Serena fans in these threads. You said it yourself - some (if not most) parts of their personalities are indeed similar. So, that leads some JJ fans to conclusion that the biggest reason for JJ hate is the fact that she has a good record against both WS.




Why would JJ's record against Venus affect the Serena fans? (the true ones I mean, who support Serena for her, not for her sister too)

дalex
Jan 14th, 2009, 08:55 AM
Why would JJ's record against Venus affect the Serena fans? (the true ones I mean, who support Serena for her, not for her sister too)

Why would anything bother anyone? :rolls:
Anyways, most (not all though) of the true fans of one sister support the other one as well.
And why wouldn't it? Both WS are true greats and the fact that Jelena matches up well against them obviously bothers some fans who are constantly trying to belittle JJ's game and achievemnets...
We all "know" that Serena and Venus or Venus and Serena are "true" #1 and #2 (the true #1 role clearly changes all the time between the two of them).
Why would the fact that Jelena is #1 bother anyone especially someone from those two fanbases when Jelena is nowhere near to becoming as great player as those two, even if she has a very good record against both?

Tennisstar86
Jan 14th, 2009, 03:21 PM
Why would anything bother anyone? :rolls:
Anyways, most (not all though) of the true fans of one sister support the other one as well.
And why wouldn't it? Both WS are true greats and the fact that Jelena matches up well against them obviously bothers some fans who are constantly trying to belittle JJ's game and achievemnets...
We all "know" that Serena and Venus or Venus and Serena are "true" #1 and #2 (the true #1 role clearly changes all the time between the two of them).
Why would the fact that Jelena is #1 bother anyone especially someone from those two fanbases when Jelena is nowhere near to becoming as great player as those two, even if she has a very good record against both?

you honestly think JJ is gonna be an all time great? lol hate to break it to you, but Jelena will be 24 in about a month, with nothing big to her name. she may eventually sneak out a grand slam, but that wont put her on the greats list....

Kim got one and while she was a good player with a ton of potential, she wont be remember in a few years except by her fans..... JJ will go the same way.

partbrit
Jan 14th, 2009, 03:36 PM
JJ even gets on my nerves now and then, and I am a huge fan. But she could never do anything to repel me the way Ivanovic does.

Brena
Jan 14th, 2009, 04:05 PM
you honestly think JJ is gonna be an all time great? lol hate to break it to you, but Jelena will be 24 in about a month, with nothing big to her name. she may eventually sneak out a grand slam, but that wont put her on the greats list....

Kim got one and while she was a good player with a ton of potential, she wont be remember in a few years except by her fans..... JJ will go the same way.

Wherever did you read that in the post you quoted?? :confused::weirdo:

MagicMilan
Jan 14th, 2009, 04:12 PM
you honestly think JJ is gonna be an all time great? lol hate to break it to you, but Jelena will be 24 in about a month, with nothing big to her name. she may eventually sneak out a grand slam, but that wont put her on the greats list....

Kim got one and while she was a good player with a ton of potential, she wont be remember in a few years except by her fans..... JJ will go the same way.
What a dumb post :rolleyes: If you quote someone, read what's written first :weirdo:

Londoner
Jan 14th, 2009, 04:18 PM
[QUOTE=V's a star;14756445]Venus is getting intense luvs it :hearts: JJ with the "flu" on court two days later :rolleyes:

http://images.theage.com.au/ftage/ffximage/2009/01/12/cam_Venus_etc_wideweb__470x216,0.jpg


http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport/tennis/open-performances-when-all-the-worlds-a-stage/2009/01/12/1231608618170.html



'..her last Melbourne outing, a semi-final loss to Sharapova last January, included a medical break and a bizarre post-match rant about the painkillers she was popping and how she didn't want to end up like Heath Ledger.'

If she did actually say this then she is a stupid cow for saying it in Australia, a stupid and crass cow for saying it at all, and an ignorant cow of the fact that if she was found dead she'd be lucky to make the back pages of International newspapers. Of course, she may not have said it, but if she did I hope she goes out in the
1st round and has a shit year ahead.

DA FOREHAND
Jan 14th, 2009, 04:23 PM
[QUOTE=V's a star;14756445]Venus is getting intense luvs it :hearts: JJ with the "flu" on court two days later :rolleyes:

http://images.theage.com.au/ftage/ffximage/2009/01/12/cam_Venus_etc_wideweb__470x216,0.jpg


http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport/tennis/open-performances-when-all-the-worlds-a-stage/2009/01/12/1231608618170.html



'..her last Melbourne outing, a semi-final loss to Sharapova last January, included a medical break and a bizarre post-match rant about the painkillers she was popping and how she didn't want to end up like Heath Ledger.'

If she did actually say this then she is a stupid cow for saying it in Australia, a stupid and crass cow for saying it at all, and an ignorant cow of the fact that if she was found dead she'd be lucky to make the back pages of International newspapers. Of course, she may not have said it, but if she did I hope she goes out in the
1st round and has a shit year ahead.
is that a recent pic of JJ? Minus the reebok logo i don't see much difference in her body or muscle tone...I did see a pic somewhere else where legs def. looked stronger. I thought she had a great body prior to her muscle tinkering, almost rivalling Steffi Graf.

Brena
Jan 14th, 2009, 04:36 PM
'..her last Melbourne outing, a semi-final loss to Sharapova last January, included a medical break and a bizarre post-match rant about the painkillers she was popping and how she didn't want to end up like Heath Ledger.'

If she did actually say this then she is a stupid cow for saying it in Australia, a stupid and crass cow for saying it at all, and an ignorant cow of the fact that if she was found dead she'd be lucky to make the back pages of International newspapers. Of course, she may not have said it, but if she did I hope she goes out in the
1st round and has a shit year ahead.

oh, my...

http://www.vidilab.com/uploads/vijesti/allo_allo_crabtree.jpg Officer Crabtree says: ''Pass off, JJ-hatoors!''

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 14th, 2009, 04:41 PM
'..her last Melbourne outing, a semi-final loss to Sharapova last January, included a medical break and a bizarre post-match rant about the painkillers she was popping and how she didn't want to end up like Heath Ledger.'

If she did actually say this then she is a stupid cow for saying it in Australia, a stupid and crass cow for saying it at all, and an ignorant cow of the fact that if she was found dead she'd be lucky to make the back pages of International newspapers. Of course, she may not have said it, but if she did I hope she goes out in the
1st round and has a shit year ahead.

She did say that, thats one of the reasons why I started hating her so much, Heath's death wasnt something she should have made fun of in the press

Serenita
Jan 14th, 2009, 04:57 PM
Why make a joke about someones death? Desperate for attention.

ChriS.
Jan 14th, 2009, 05:03 PM
She did say that, thats one of the reasons why I started hating her so much, Heath's death wasnt something she should have made fun of in the pressI quite agree it should not and I am sure she did not intend to do that. JJ says crazy stuff and a lot of it is very funny and makes everyone laugh. This particular comment was not funny but I am glad she is brave enough to speak out rather than be bland like so many other great players.

nelsondan
Jan 14th, 2009, 05:09 PM
[QUOTE=Londoner;14771549]
is that a recent pic of JJ? Minus the reebok logo i don't see much difference in her body or muscle tone...I did see a pic somewhere else where legs def. looked stronger. I thought she had a great body prior to her muscle tinkering, almost rivalling Steffi Graf.


I thought about starting a thread about whose body has changed the most since the 2008 AO, and would it affect their games. JJ? (up), Domachowska (down), Ivanovic (up slightly), Sharapova (unknown), and even Hantuchova (rejoicing over being 1 kilo up?). Golovin and Kirilenko have sports illustrated swimsuits to consider---

I will hide this post here to stay out of trouble, but I wondered if anyone has noticed there has been more talk about kilos and pounds, (all muscles, of course) this year.

Ian Aberdon
Jan 14th, 2009, 06:16 PM
I think some of the JJ-haters on here doth protest too much.

Tennisstar86
Jan 15th, 2009, 01:09 AM
What a dumb post :rolleyes: If you quote someone, read what's written first :weirdo:

what a dumb reply, if you read the post, you'd have had seen the poster was trying to imply that Jankovic will be as great at the williams sisters on account of having equal head to heads with them.....

дalex
Jan 15th, 2009, 07:53 AM
what a dumb reply, if you read the post, you'd have had seen the poster was trying to imply that Jankovic will be as great at the williams sisters on account of having equal head to heads with them.....

No. I wasn't. Maybe you'll get it if you read it few more times...:shrug:

Brena
Jan 15th, 2009, 11:43 AM
No. I wasn't. Maybe you'll get it if you read it few more times...:shrug:

Try. to. type. a. bit. slower. maybe. he'll. understand.

Ian Aberdon
Jan 15th, 2009, 05:30 PM
Grammar isn't a strong point of most JJ-haters...:devil:

TennisMindCamp
Jan 18th, 2009, 03:22 AM
I don't think Venus is a Diva.

TennisMindCamp
Jan 18th, 2009, 03:25 AM
Yeah she did lose pretty bad

InsideOut.
Jan 18th, 2009, 10:54 AM
Grammar isn't a strong point of most JJ-haters...:devil:

What about you?

I think some of the JJ-haters on here doth protest too much.

You don't know how to use 'doth', do you? :rolleyes: Grammar is such a stupid thing to pick on. :mad:

Melly Flew Us
Jan 18th, 2009, 12:42 PM
Many Williams fans often despise any tiny little white diva ....
what the fuck?