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bad_angel_109
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:32 PM
I saw and read this last night before I went to bed (stayed up pretty late :p). I think its just to sell more papers and it being so close to the AO starting next week, etc.

Is it the end for Maria's career? (http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24899646-3162,00.html)

doni1212
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:37 PM
Like I said before, I don't think she'll be back until Wimbledon at the earliest. But who knows? I could be wrong, :shrug:

Temperenka
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:40 PM
Article doesn't sound like Maria thinks her career is in question... ? Anyways, I think Maria will be back around Eastbourne. Why play on clay?

bad_angel_109
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:41 PM
^ Like I said I read the article late last night and I cbf reading it again :lol: I reckon she might take a stab at Roland Garros, she was so close to the final last year. but I dunno

Like I said before, I don't think she'll be back until Wimbledon at the earliest. But who knows? I could be wrong, :shrug:Wimbledon? Wow, u really think so? I thought she'd be back for RG. At the very least be ready for IW. :scratch:

iGOAT
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:42 PM
what's GR :scratch:

lizchris
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:43 PM
If her career is in doubt, the article doesn't get into specifics.

While I think her year is in doubt (I don't believe she will be back before Wimbledon or the USO if she plays this year at all asI believe she has or has had a torn rotator cuff), unless I know more, I am not ready to say her career is over.

VishaalMaria
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:43 PM
The article is basically re-iterating the fact that she has withdrawn from the Australian Open; the only difference is that they have slapped on a mis-leading and outrageous title.

bad_angel_109
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:43 PM
:lol: my bad, I meant RG.

Kworb
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:45 PM
It's a stupid article that is posting stuff about Maria's rehabilitation process in unchronological order to make it seem like she still has a major problem.

doni1212
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:45 PM
^ Like I said I read the article late last night and I cbf reading it again :lol: I reckon she might take a stab at Roland Garros, she was so close to the final last year. but I dunno

Wimbledon? Wow, u really think so? I thought she'd be back for RG. At the very least be ready for IW. :scratch:

Well, I don't think she'll want to come back and risk getting injured on clay. Since the clay requires longer hours and rallies on court, I just feel she'll want to make her comeback on grass and have her first grandslam this year be something she can actually compete on coming back from injury, :shrug:

bad_angel_109
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:46 PM
The article is basically re-iterating the fact that she has withdrawn from the Australian Open; the only difference is that they have slapped on a mis-leading and outrageous title.They're a good newspaper, the most popular in Melbourne. Altho ppl are starting to read The Age more. Anyways, thats not the point, my point that the heralds sun sometimes has mis-leading and wrong information. In an article yesterday they said Maria was 23. :lol:

IceHock
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:47 PM
is her shoulder injury in anyway like what jcap had?

raffles
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:47 PM
Which of the many articles surronding Sharapova injury have been accurate? They have all taken her statements(be they true or not) and twisted and re-arranged them to suit the slant they want to put on the article. They haven't provided a single piece of information different from what Maria has already provided. I have no idea when she will be back but be sure whatever we have heard isn't the full story.

bad_angel_109
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:48 PM
It's a stupid article that is posting stuff about Maria's rehabilitation process in unchronological order to make it seem like she still has a major problem.I'll change the title of the thread then if it makes u happy :rolleyes:

Well, I don't think she'll want to come back and risk getting injured on clay. Since the clay requires longer hours and rallies on court, I just feel she'll want to make her comeback on grass and have her first grandslam this year be something she can actually compete on coming back from injury, :shrug:Fair enough. Altho wimbledon is a long way away. surely she'll be tempted to have a hit or something prior to ur prediction? :confused:

sweetpeas
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:49 PM
All the player's go through some kind of injuries!Take care Maria..See you at the big W:wavey::cool::bounce:I wish you the best of heath and happiness,get well soon!Come back and kick some ***!:bounce::wavey::lol:.

iGOAT
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:50 PM
ahh

brickhousesupporter
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:52 PM
is her shoulder injury in anyway like what jcap had?

IIRC both have torn rotator cuffs.

sipnsurfMurph
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:53 PM
I saw and read this last night before I went to bed (stayed up pretty late :p). I think its just to sell more papers and it being so close to the AO starting next week, etc.

Is it the end for Maria's career? (http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24899646-3162,00.html)

I agree. Nothing new about the injury, but the headline should attract attention.

IceHock
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:53 PM
IIRC both have torn rotator cuffs.


that makes me worry a little about maria's shoulder, she should have had surgery although jennifer's was awful after surgery.

Emina.
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:54 PM
:(:(:(

doni1212
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:56 PM
I'll change the title of the thread then if it makes u happy :rolleyes:

Fair enough. Altho wimbledon is a long way away. surely she'll be tempted to have a hit or something prior to ur prediction? :confused:

Yeah, she probably would if her shoulder was healthy. But I honestly believe she's lying and that her shoulder is not 100% healthy as she claims, ;)

ys
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:57 PM
Why don't we take Maria's word at the face value for once? That she is simply not ready game-wise.. Is it really difficult to believe? She was out for 5 months. Had a surgery. If she, as she says, is hitting only for 3 weeks, there is no way she can be properly prepared.
Remember Nastya's last attempt at comeback at RG after being out for many months than hitting for month and a half with Savchenko? I don't think anyone wants _that_ type of comeback.

On the other hand, there was an interview with Tarpischev in early December where he underlined the seriousness of the situation, saying that the injury _IS_ career-threatening and that it is indeed possible that Maria will never match her previous form.

Volcana
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:58 PM
There's a question I'd like answered.

Read this excerpt from an article fom the herald sun. http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...-11088,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...-11088,00.html)


"We were working hard on my strength and building up all the muscles around my shoulder," Sharapova said on her website.
"Since I can only do that for two hours a day, I also worked really hard on working on other parts of my body.
"Unfortunately after my 10 weeks of shoulder rehab, I started hitting and serving again and I still felt the same exact pain that I have had in my shoulder since March."
Sharapova then underwent arthroscopic surgery - but believed she would recover in time for the next week's Open. That reads like she did ten weeks of rehab, THEN had surgery. So when WAS this surgery? I haven't read anything definitive about that. People are assuming it's March October, but I've been saying since last summer her symptoms sounded like a torn rotator cuff. The standard recovery time for that is four to six months. No way any doctor told her she could have surgery in October and be ready to play in January.

homogenius
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:58 PM
Yeah, she probably would if her shoulder was healthy. But I honestly believe she's lying and that her shoulder is not 100% healthy as she claims, ;)

And the past two years you were claiming that her shoulder injury was fake.
So inconsistent :lol:

doni1212
Jan 11th, 2009, 11:01 PM
And the past two years you were claiming that her shoulder injury was fake.
So inconsistent :lol:

She herself said she injured it at Indian Wells 08 so yall need to get together and pick a time when she's injured and when she's not, :rolleyes:
What I said was that her whole 2007 season was not because of injury, :yeah:

goldenlox
Jan 11th, 2009, 11:01 PM
We won't know for sure until she's playing week after week.
She has not played a match since July. And to not show up at all in this draw, it's hard to believe she's feeling great.
That she's not in the draw because she's not happy with her form, doesn't sound right.
We'll see when she comes back.

Lulu.
Jan 11th, 2009, 11:03 PM
Shoulder injuries are worrying, look at Capriati. :unsure:

lizchris
Jan 11th, 2009, 11:04 PM
There's a question I'd like answered.

Read this excerpt from an article fom the herald sun. http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...-11088,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...-11088,00.html)

That reads like she did ten weeks of rehab, THEN had surgery. So when WAS this surgery? I haven't read anything definitive about that. People are assuming it's March, but I've been saying since last summer her symptoms sounded like a torn rotator cuff. The standard recovery time for that is four to six months. No way any doctor told her she could have surgery and October and be ready to play in January.

Volcana, you and I have been saying she has a torn rotator cuff, but I think the recuperation process is much longer than six months; I think it is more ike a year to 18 months.

bad_angel_109
Jan 11th, 2009, 11:07 PM
Yeah, she probably would if her shoulder was healthy. But I honestly believe she's lying and that her shoulder is not 100% healthy as she claims, ;)Haha u think she's lying? That could actually be the case :p


Why don't we take Maria's word at the face value for once? That she is simply not ready game-wise.. Is it really difficult to believe? She was out for 5 months. Had a surgery. If she, as she says, is hitting only for 3 weeks, there is no way she can be properly prepared.
Remember Nastya's last attempt at comeback at RG after being out for many months than hitting for month and a half with Savchenko? I don't think anyone wants _that_ type of comeback.

On the other hand, there was an interview with Tarpischev in early December where he underlined the seriousness of the situation, saying that the injury _IS_ career-threatening and that it is indeed possible that Maria will never match her previous form.Yeah I think her injury might be career-threating, I mean if she doesn't rest up or whatever, it could well end her career. Altho Im not really a fan of Maria's tennis, I'd have to admit it would be a major blow to the WTA Tour and to tennis in general to lose another one of its talented Russian starlets so young.

Tho I think Sharapova is more talented than Anna.

goldenlox
Jan 11th, 2009, 11:09 PM
It depends on the injury. This is 2 very small tears, that weren't seen until August. It was misdiagnosed by the 1st doctor who treated her. He didn't see any tear
Some rotator cuff tears are big. But this is a worry until we see her playing well week in week out

LindsayRulz
Jan 11th, 2009, 11:12 PM
IMO she'll be back for IW/Miami. :shrug:

Volcana
Jan 11th, 2009, 11:14 PM
Volcana, you and I have been saying she has a torn rotator cuff, but I think the recuperation process is much longer than six months; I think it is more ike a year to 18 months.I'm recovering from torn rotator cuff surgery right now. My doctors said four to six months after surgery before I coud even think of playing tennis. And that the success of the surgery is measured after a year. I had surgery two months ago, I've do physical therapy every day since then, and I can barely raise my arm over my head. And my therapist says I'm ahead of schedule.

So we're on target, basically. It's a year til you know how you're gonna be, but you can play in six months. It's gonna hurt, but you can do it.

bad_angel_109
Jan 11th, 2009, 11:16 PM
IMO she'll be back for IW/Miami. :shrug:I thought so too, but the idea of Maria playing grass and making her return is perhaps a little more possible? *shrugz* i dunno, just guessing. I reckon she'll be right for Charleston or something.

raffles
Jan 11th, 2009, 11:18 PM
Does the recovery period not vary depending on the severity of the injury. I know Maria might not want to disclose all the details of her injury but if 1 year timescales is what we are looking at then she can't keep claiming lack of fitness until October.

goldenlox
Jan 11th, 2009, 11:19 PM
There's no rush now. She can take as long as she wants.
She's never been off the tour this long. Not only does she have to come back and stay healthy. She also has to get back to her old form.
A lot of players come back from injuries and aren't as good as they used to be.

This whole comeback is probably going to be covered closely by the tennis media and be very interesting

bad_angel_109
Jan 11th, 2009, 11:20 PM
Does the recovery period not vary depending on the severity of the injury. I know Maria might not want to disclose all the details of her injury but if 1 year timescales is what we are looking at then she can't keep claiming lack of fitness until October.that's true, i spose...:scratch:

here's today's article from the age if anyone's interested (i haven't read it yet) but i dont think it says anything about the direction of maria's career.

the age (http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport/tennis/sharapova-out-after-shoulder-fails-to-recover/2009/01/11/1231608525444.html)

goldenlox
Jan 12th, 2009, 12:07 AM
This is from her blog -

I went back to NY to see Dr.Altcheck on October 14 and we went to plan B. On the morning of October 15 Dr. Altcheck performed a minor arthroscopic surgery that lasted 22 minutes on my right shoulder.
The procedure was successful and very simple. I left the hospital a few hours after the procedure and flew to my home in Florida for 3 days and then I flew back to Phoenix to start working on my shoulder. The 10 weeks of shoulder strength before the procedure really helped the shoulder heal quicker. Dr. Altcheck thought my recovery would be very fast and he was right. I had full range of motion after 14 days, after 6 weeks I was throwing a foot ball and after 8 weeks I was back on the court where I belong. I know this entire process has made me stronger and more hungry. I miss competing so much. I am trying to do everything possible to be ready for Australia, but I have promised my doctors, coach and family that I will not rush back

Volcana
Jan 12th, 2009, 03:20 AM
This is from her blog -

I went back to NY to see Dr.Altcheck on October 14 and we went to plan B. On the morning of October 15 Dr. Altcheck performed a minor arthroscopic surgery that lasted 22 minutes on my right shoulder.
The procedure was successful and very simple. I left the hospital a few hours after the procedure and flew to my home in Florida for 3 days and then I flew back to Phoenix to start working on my shoulder. The 10 weeks of shoulder strength before the procedure really helped the shoulder heal quicker. Dr. Altcheck thought my recovery would be very fast and he was right. I had full range of motion after 14 days, after 6 weeks I was throwing a foot ball and after 8 weeks I was back on the court where I belong. I know this entire process has made me stronger and more hungry. I miss competing so much. I am trying to do everything possible to be ready for Australia, but I have promised my doctors, coach and family that I will not rush backFirst, thank you. Second, she certainly got full of range of motion faster than I have. Third, consideing how fast he am swing must be, playing OZ was still an insane concept. The backhand directly attacks the rotator cuff.

Still, if she's reall that far along, she could make IW. IF not IW, just blow it all off til Birmingham/Eastbourne.

danieln1
Jan 12th, 2009, 03:25 AM
I also think sheŽll be back for Wimbledon or Birmingham, clay season probably out of the question.
She said she doesnŽt want to rush things back, and it would be more suitable for her to be back at the grass court season

anthonyqld
Jan 12th, 2009, 03:26 AM
It's a News Limited article. News Limited are an absolute joke of a media company - all of their papers constantly have sensationalistic tabloid trash.

goldenlox
Jan 12th, 2009, 10:12 AM
This is by far the longest she's been off the tour.
It's going to be from July 2008 to about April, May 2009.
It's not wild to call it career threatening.
She's a long way from being on the tour, as a threat to win majors and be #1

DeLorean
Jan 12th, 2009, 10:19 AM
there is alot of speculation and melodramatic blabble surrounding her injury and since the only info we seem to get is from her blog then we should take that as gospel.

so for me she had a minor tear which she would have cured somewhat, but not fully, with rehab and strengthening. Now if her tear was as serious as some people think then she probably would have gotten surgery right after diagnosis in August. But as she we know she got minor(20 odd minute, flying home the next day) surgery. Once fully recovered from that she could train but that was only like 3 odd weeks ago, and considering her expected level of play, strengthening required, fitness level needed and the fact that she has barely hit a ball in anger since August, she still needs more time.

She also stated she wasn't going to rush her return and i interpret this, with her not ready statement, to mean they don't want to risk her shoulder without seeing how it holds up and if she needs to alter her serve or forehand to protect it more.

DeLorean
Jan 12th, 2009, 10:24 AM
ahh double post

sheryo
Jan 12th, 2009, 11:08 AM
IMO she'll be back for IW/Miami. :shrug:

+1

Maria wants to play! And her shoulder is ok, it's just a question of time and level! She just needs a little more time to be competitive.

soul
Jan 12th, 2009, 02:11 PM
So mayeb. First of all Im not a hater ror supporter.She sas been dealing with the last few seasons with this injury and fnaly last summer she had to withdraw so many competitions.She went to Arizona and after a while she has surgery. My guess is she will not compete till French. Because that is only grand slam she doesnot have. If she enters and wins I think she may retire but if she doesnt again injuries can force her.Maria has a different calendar about her tennis. I again mention that these are my instincts about her; again Im not a hater or supporter.

Shvedbarilescu
Jan 12th, 2009, 02:29 PM
I'm recovering from torn rotator cuff surgery right now. My doctors said four to six months after surgery before I coud even think of playing tennis. And that the success of the surgery is measured after a year. I had surgery two months ago, I've do physical therapy every day since then, and I can barely raise my arm over my head. And my therapist says I'm ahead of schedule.

So we're on target, basically. It's a year til you know how you're gonna be, but you can play in six months. It's gonna hurt, but you can do it.

I wasn't aware you had recently undergone rotator cuff surgery yourself. :awww:
I wish you a speedy (as can be) and a 100% recovery, Volcana. All the best. :hug:

jacobruiz
Jan 12th, 2009, 02:58 PM
She herself said she injured it at Indian Wells 08 so yall need to get together and pick a time when she's injured and when she's not, :rolleyes:
What I said was that her whole 2007 season was not because of injury, :yeah:

Maria aggravated her injury at Indian Wells, she didn't originally injure her shoulder there.
I hope and believe Maria will be back in 5-6 weeks. She has a huge desire to play.