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spice_of_life
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:11 PM
After his loss to Andy Murray today Federer said:

"If [Murray] carries on the way he is he will have a shot," said Federer. "Things change very quickly.

"But I hope if he were to become number one he would win a Slam - not like the women's side. No disrespect to Jelena Jankovic but it took Rafa five Grand Slams to become number one." :devil:

BuTtErFrEnA
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:13 PM
:hearts: o0o0oo0o0o0o now i remember why i love Roger

égalité
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:13 PM
:retard:

That's hardly a swipe. He prefaced it with "no disrespect."

And Jelena's still ranked higher :nerner:

IceHock
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:15 PM
that's actually him taking a swipe at the tour, not jelena, he basicly just said how easy it is to become number 1 on the wta tour.

Uranium
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:15 PM
Roger:worship:

Craig.
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:16 PM
Roger. :dance:

disco_rage
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:16 PM
hmmmm... does he not remember Rios getting to No.1 with no slam?

Andy.
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:16 PM
Love Roger :worship:

Wiggly
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:17 PM
Meow.
I can't wait to hear from Jelena. :tape:

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:18 PM
he should have just left it at the first and second sentence. the last two weren't necessary. poor jelena, i don't see why this is such a big deal, i mean it's not the first time it's happened. i hope she wins one soon.

but not at the expense of my girl.

frenchie
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:19 PM
LOL!

There was a thread about mean comments recently....

BuTtErFrEnA
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:20 PM
Meow.
I can't wait to hear from Jelena. :tape:

what can she retort with??? you're still 1 slam short of sampras' 14 slams??

Uranium
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:20 PM
Meow.
I can't wait to hear from Jelena. :tape:

She's already answered to these statements before with saying "Grand Slam Champs get lucky and play well for 2 weeks" or something like that while #1 is about the whole year..blah blah blah.

Shvedbarilescu
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:21 PM
If one reads between the lines I think what Federer is really saying is that the women's tour don't have anyone as good as him around. With him in the mix getting to number one is very tough. He's not exactly modest.

hablo
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:22 PM
hmmmm... does he not remember Rios getting to No.1 with no slam?

Right. Like that scenario has never happened on the men's tour before. :tape:

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:22 PM
Arrogant asshole as always this Federer

Fortunately Muzza schooled him today for the fifth time :d

Tennisation
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:23 PM
Ironically, I think he's actually taking a swipe at his nemesis Rafa that it takes him that long to become #1 :lol:

sammy01
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:24 PM
hes bitter, hes knows his grand slam winning days are over, hes getting owned by murray and is already owned by nadal add in all the other players who can now beat him hes just bitter. hes a great player but always had an inflated ego this is just a backlash of his ego not having results to back it up.

V's a star
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:25 PM
Nice Roger. no problem with that its wat everyone thinks besides Jankovic fans

SV_Fan
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:25 PM
Federer is so bitter IMO.
In tennis magazine he said
"Either Im Number 1 or a Grand Slam Champion but Im not Number 2"
Why cant he just accept it?
He shouldnt say that about Jankovic she worked hard to get to number one in the world.

vwfan
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:26 PM
he should have just left it at the first and second sentence. the last two weren't necessary. poor jelena, i don't see why this is such a big deal, i mean it's not the first time it's happened. i hope she wins one soon.

but not at the expense of my girl.actually. all of it is unnecessary. i am not a big jj fan, but it's not fair that everyone is piling on her.

she didn't steal the #1 ranking. roger should worry about his own behind and keep his comments focused on the men's games.

Roookie
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:26 PM
5 number ones in 2008 Fed. :kiss:

BuTtErFrEnA
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:26 PM
She's already answered to these statements before with saying "Grand Slam Champs get lucky and play well for 2 weeks" or something like that while #1 is about the whole year..blah blah blah.

can you imagine her saying sampras got lucky 14 times, federer got lucky 13 times :tape:

carling
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:27 PM
The truth hurts, but Federer is absolutely correct.

Jelena needs to win a slam. She will never be truly respected as a champion until she does.

vml
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:27 PM
" no direspect" only said this to -try- to be polite but yeah Federer is pretty arrogant he can't accept the fact of being number 2, he just needs to move on and stops complaining about his rank

friendsita
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:27 PM
hes bitter, hes knows his grand slam winning days are over, hes getting owned by murray and is already owned by nadal add in all the other players who can now beat him hes just bitter. hes a great player but always had an inflated ego this is just a backlash of his ego not having results to back it up.

sammy: simply :worship::worship::worship:

BuTtErFrEnA
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:28 PM
hes bitter, hes knows his grand slam winning days are over, hes getting owned by murray and is already owned by nadal add in all the other players who can now beat him hes just bitter. hes a great player but always had an inflated ego this is just a backlash of his ego not having results to back it up.

yea it sure proved that his GS winning days are over when he won a slam last season, as opposed to jj whose GS winning days haven't even begun :o

Uranium
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:30 PM
yea it sure proved that his GS winning days are over when he won a slam last season, as opposed to jj whose GS winning days haven't even begun :o

Exactly, he won the last slam, how is his slam winning days over?:tape:

sammy01
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:32 PM
yea it sure proved that his GS winning days are over when he won a slam last season, as opposed to jj whose GS winning days haven't even begun :o

players always have to win a final slam, i think thats federers, he may fall to number 3 or 4 in the world very soon, the lower he goes the harder draws get.

vml
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:32 PM
yea it sure proved that his GS winning days are over when he won a slam last season, as opposed to jj whose GS winning days haven't even begun :o

LOL, you are so right Fedy's going to win many other GS wether Fedy's haters like it or not even though ithink is pretty arrogant

Wiggly
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:32 PM
what can she retort with??? you're still 1 slam short of sampras' 14 slams??

She's already answered to these statements before with saying "Grand Slam Champs get lucky and play well for 2 weeks" or something like that while #1 is about the whole year..blah blah blah.

I know.
She can't say anything.
However, I'm sure she will come up with something absurd.

vml
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:33 PM
yea it sure proved that his GS winning days are over when he won a slam last season, as opposed to jj whose GS winning days haven't even begun :o

LOL, you are so right Fedy's going to win many other GS whether Fedy's haters like it or not even though i think is pretty arrogant

IceHock
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:33 PM
players always have to win a final slam, i think thats federers, he may fall to number 3 or 4 in the world very soon, the lower he goes the harder draws get.


the only 3 players capable of beating federer are nadal,murray,and djokovic. his grand slam draws start in the semifinals, the only surface where this might not apply is roland garros however he's made the final the past 3 years.

frenchie
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:34 PM
I was always bad repped when I said I found him arrogant in the past
But he really is!

He's bitter because his prime has passed and Jelena's has just begun

BuTtErFrEnA
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:34 PM
players always have to win a final slam, i think thats federers, he may fall to number 3 or 4 in the world very soon, the lower he goes the harder draws get.

yet jj has been going up the rankings and that has OBVIOUSLY made it easier for her to win slams :tape:

VishaalMaria
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:34 PM
What need was there for him to make such a comment and single out Jelena? He lost to Murray and talks about the womens tour thereafter? Okaaaaay!

It just outlines his lack of class; though Jelena hasn't won a slam, it took her some hard work to get to the number one position so she deserves some respect.

spice_of_life
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:35 PM
I'm a little surprised he made the comment as he's not known for taking shots at the women's tour. And yeah it could be he's taking a swipe at the the tour overall. :lol:

pj5
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:35 PM
I actually think that he'd like Jelena to win a slam. I think of it as a way of him telling (in a roundabout way) to refocus.

Willam
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:36 PM
the only 3 players capable of beating federer are nadal,murray,and djokovic. his grand slam draws start in the semifinals, the only surface where this might not apply is roland garros however he's made the final the past 3 years.

David Nalbandian, anyone? :rolleyes:

sammy01
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:37 PM
yet jj has been going up the rankings and that has OBVIOUSLY made it easier for her to win slams :tape:

funny cus from what i've seen the higher her ranking the closer shes getting. shes never gone into a slam as #1 seed yet.

IceHock
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:37 PM
David Nalbandian, anyone? :rolleyes:


lol i love nalby but his slam results have been terrible as of late, but i did forget about him actually.

Kworb
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:38 PM
With the way Federer is playing it will be very easy for Murray to win a Slam. :shrug: I don't think he took a swipe at Jankovic, everyone knows it would be nicer if she got both the Slam and the number one position rather than just one of them.

sammy01
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:39 PM
lol i love nalby but his slam results have been terrible as of late, but i did forget about him actually.

lets not forget he lost what 15 matches last year, they weren't all to murray, nadal or novak.

Slutiana
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:41 PM
the only 3 players capable of beating federer are nadal,murray,and djokovic. his grand slam draws start in the semifinals, the only surface where this might not apply is roland garros however he's made the final the past 3 years.
Did you not watch the ATP last year? Simon went 2-0 against him. :)

BuTtErFrEnA
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:42 PM
funny cus from what i've seen the higher her ranking the closer shes getting. shes never gone into a slam as #1 seed yet.

yes cause she's obviously closer with 1 slam final since 06 :o

BuTtErFrEnA
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:43 PM
lets not forget he lost what 15 matches last year, they weren't all to murray, nadal or novak.

15 matches lost and still 1 slam....how much ever matches lost and no slams...

IceHock
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:44 PM
Did you not watch the ATP last year? Simon went 2-0 against him. :)


I know, but i'm talking about grand slams here, outside of grand slams yes he is more beatable, but sammy was talking about grand slam ,I feel that fed steps it up in slams and his results really havent changed, he still got one last year, and I think he will grab 1 or 2 this year, and 3 if he's lucky. I just don't see him losing to someone outside of those 3 and Nalbandian if he starts doing well in slams.

propi
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:44 PM
The thing is that none of the former number 1 in female tennis had to win 5 GS and a gold medal to reach the top spot as Rafa had to.
Jelena is number 1, she won it fair and simple and she deserved it, otherwise ranking wouldn't say so :worship:

Direwolf
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:45 PM
actually if you read between the lines
he actually said...

if the Williams Sisters dont get injured that often
they would be at the top of the rankings..

hahaha

AcesHigh
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:45 PM
The GOAT has spoken :lol:

Really, you guys are taking this comment too seriously.

Optima
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:45 PM
Some people just don't understand players mature at different rates. Did Mauresmo suck before she won her slams? Of course not. Any player who has beaten a Williams sister (yes, I'll use them as the measuring stick) is pretty damn good, or has the potential to be pretty damn good, even if they were beaten because they were off their game (they're the best of their generation, of course.) Even if JJ doesn't win a slam, I'll still love her, and never forget the many classic matches she's been in :inlove:

Number 1 baby :hearts: Gotta be happy with what you have.

Uranium
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:45 PM
The thing is that none of the former number 1 in female tennis had to win 5 GS and a gold medal to reach the top spot as Rafa had to.
Jelena is number 1, she won it fair and simple and she deserved it, otherwise ranking wouldn't say so :worship:

Wrong, Venus won 4 GS and a Gold medal before she got to #1 in 2002:p

The Daviator
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:46 PM
Roger :worship:

friendsita
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:49 PM
actually if you read between the lines
he actually said...

if the Williams Sisters dont get injured that often
they would be at the top of the rankings..

hahaha

ohhh... yess... I see ;)

Jeff
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:51 PM
Lol Roger is an arrogant guy, and the only reason he made this comment about Jelena is to honor himself and feel better about his loss to Murray. Basically Roger is saying "I lost today, other players are beating me now like Murray, but they have to work really hard to pass me, for example Nadal who had to win five slams."

I respect Roger for his talent and accomplishments, but I don't like him as a person. He has a smug way about him that I can't stand, particularly that most people see his comments as sportsmanlike and gentlemen like, yet I don't see it that way at all.

Marionated
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:53 PM
It's a good thing he's Murray's most prized bitch.

propi
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:55 PM
Wrong, Venus won 4 GS and a Gold medal before she got to #1 in 2002:p
4 isn't 5, is it?? :p

Does it mean that Venus is the only player who deserved to get number 1?? No, it just says she had to work it more than others because of competition, that's all :)
Any number 1 is a worthy number 1, although I can admit doubts with Ivanovic :o

Optima
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:56 PM
Fed, I love you, but yeah, you should shut up right now and stop being owned by Murray.

~Cherry*Blossom~
Jan 9th, 2009, 10:56 PM
Roger :hearts:

I always thought Murray was the male equivalent of Jankovic.

Brooklyn90
Jan 9th, 2009, 11:02 PM
Roger :yeah:

Ferosh
Jan 9th, 2009, 11:06 PM
I think it's more of a swipe towards the WTA. Prior to this year, the WTA only had one other mandatory event apart from the slams and the ATP had 9.

JadeFox
Jan 9th, 2009, 11:09 PM
Oh Roger. I love him. I really do. But leave Jelena and the WTA Tour out of this. They have nothing to do with your problems.

Calling someone fat won't make you skinnier.

Calling someone stupid won't make you smarter.

And ripping Jelena will NOT change the fact that your dominating days seem to be behind you.

I still got love for you Feds.

Willam
Jan 9th, 2009, 11:10 PM
Wrong, Venus won 4 GS and a Gold medal before she got to #1 in 2002:p

are you plein stupid or what?

4, not 5..

Willam
Jan 9th, 2009, 11:10 PM
Oh Roger. I love him. I really do. But leave Jelena and the WTA Tour out of this. They have nothing to do with your problems.

Calling someone fat won't make you skinnier.

Calling someone stupid won't make you smarter.

And ripping Jelena will NOT change the fact that your dominating days seem to be behind you.

I still got love for you Feds.

:haha: Mean Girls, anyone>

Uranium
Jan 9th, 2009, 11:24 PM
are you plein stupid or what?

4, not 5..

Calling me stupid, when you can't spell plain:help:
4 or 5 are similar, to me both won multiple slams and yet didn't become #1 for a while.

RenaSlam.
Jan 9th, 2009, 11:25 PM
He's speaking the truth.

PropheticWaters
Jan 9th, 2009, 11:27 PM
Roger Federer states a fact and it is considered a swipe against Ms. Jankovic? Now that does that tell you? :help:

Black Mamba.
Jan 9th, 2009, 11:28 PM
Roger really went in, but he made a valid point.

CJ07
Jan 9th, 2009, 11:31 PM
He didn't say anything that isn't true, nor was he taking a swipe at the tour. I mean Justine had to win 2 slams, Venus 4, Serena 3 before they got to number 1. Jankovic being #1 with only 1 GS final is an absolute joke.

As for Federer himself, he is still the greatest of all time. Its not like hes just being dominated (except on clay by Nadal) its just that hes spraying balls now. He had 37 errors and 5 double faults in that match. Had he played cleanly he would've won handily. And anyway, he still won a major last year and made two other finals. Will he have another 81-4 year? Probably not, but who cares? He is still going to win more majors than anyone in history for quite some time. And Nadal? He is only the best player from April to July. He isn't any better results wise than Daveydenko outside of that time span.

Archer16
Jan 9th, 2009, 11:34 PM
If one reads between the lines I think what Federer is really saying is that the women's tour don't have anyone as good as him around. With him in the mix getting to number one is very tough. He's not exactly modest.
Well, he isn't too modest, but everything else you stated as the meaning of his words is also true.

hmmmm... does he not remember Rios getting to No.1 with no slam?
First of all, it happened once in the ATP, and more often in the WTA.
Second, no-one took Rios seriously as the best player in the world at any point back then.
There have been so many threads here about "most consistent" (which no doubt JJ is) as opposed to "best", anyway JJ desperately needs a slam title for much greater reasons than what Roger is saying about her.

Patrick345
Jan 9th, 2009, 11:35 PM
Roger :hearts:

I always thought Murray was the male equivalent of Jankovic.

Enough with the insults now. :(

Murray sucks. The guy had his nice little stinky run at the US Open, because everybody but Murray was exhausted from actually winning matches during the rest of the year and suddenly he´s the hot flavour of the month. Not gonna happen.

Callum
Jan 9th, 2009, 11:36 PM
I wish he'd literally taken a swipe at her.

Dawn Marie
Jan 9th, 2009, 11:38 PM
Fed X is right. I'm glad he took a swipe at the WTA tour. Fed is telling the truth and I'm grateful that a HIGH profiled player spoke the truth about the retarded rankings on the WTA tour.

The WTA and how they do the ranking system is MENTALLY CHALLENGED!!!!

It's like being the #1 team in football but never winning a SUPERBOWL in the 365 calender year. Or being #1 in golf but never winning a major. Losing the Basketball Championship but being hailed as the #1 team. I could go on and on.

THE WTA Tour is this respect is RETARDED!

*JR*
Jan 9th, 2009, 11:38 PM
Must be because he's banging Ana behind Mirka's back. ;)

~Cherry*Blossom~
Jan 9th, 2009, 11:41 PM
Enough with the insults now. :(

Murray sucks. The guy had his nice little stinky run at the US Open, because everybody but Murray was exhausted from actually winning matches during the rest of the year and suddenly he´s the hot flavour of the month. Not gonna happen.

I can't stand either so lumping them together works for me :angel:

CJ07
Jan 9th, 2009, 11:43 PM
Fed X is right. I'm glad he took a swipe at the WTA tour. Fed is telling the truth and I'm grateful that a HIGH profiled player spoke the truth about the retarded rankings on the WTA tour.

The WTA and how they do the ranking system is MENTALLY CHALLENGED!!!!

It's like being the #1 team in football but never winning a SUPERBOWL in the 365 calender year. Or being #1 in golf but never winning a major. Losing the Basketball Championship but being hailed as the #1 team. I could go on and on.

THE WTA Tour is this respect is RETARDED!
Thats a good point. Its really bizzare.

Jankovic didn't even with Miami or the YEC or the Olympics or SOMETHING that at least is right under a slam.

Kworb
Jan 9th, 2009, 11:47 PM
Fed X is right. I'm glad he took a swipe at the WTA tour. Fed is telling the truth and I'm grateful that a HIGH profiled player spoke the truth about the retarded rankings on the WTA tour.

The WTA and how they do the ranking system is MENTALLY CHALLENGED!!!!

It's like being the #1 team in football but never winning a SUPERBOWL in the 365 calender year. Or being #1 in golf but never winning a major. Losing the Basketball Championship but being hailed as the #1 team. I could go on and on.

THE WTA Tour is this respect is RETARDED!

Even if they had used ATP system, Jelena would be #1 :shrug:

Lucemferre
Jan 9th, 2009, 11:50 PM
hes bitter, hes knows his grand slam winning days are over, hes getting owned by murray and is already owned by nadal add in all the other players who can now beat him hes just bitter. hes a great player but always had an inflated ego this is just a backlash of his ego not having results to back it up.

He is the winner of the last major :lol: Stick to women's tennis you sissy punk.

Carsten
Jan 9th, 2009, 11:57 PM
Federer :yawn::yawn::yawn:

danieln1
Jan 10th, 2009, 12:01 AM
Poor Jelena, even the best player of all time is mocking her... :haha: :haha: :haha:
About time to win a slam, Federer can´t stand a world number 1 without a slam

sammy01
Jan 10th, 2009, 12:02 AM
He is the winner of the last major :lol: Stick to women's tennis you sissy punk.

is there any need for this, i have an opinion, you disagree, fine but in the real world adults state their opinion and avoid being confrontational and can accept peoples views differ, you obviously aren't an adult.

Carsten
Jan 10th, 2009, 12:03 AM
Poor Jelena, even the best player of all time is mocking her... :haha: :haha: :haha:


What did Sampras say?? :confused:

Conor
Jan 10th, 2009, 12:07 AM
He's just speaking the truth. The mens rankings are much more reflective of whos the best... getting to number 1 in the mens game is actually a mean feat. Unlike the womens these days it seems.

~Cherry*Blossom~
Jan 10th, 2009, 12:11 AM
What did Sampras say?? :confused:

How is Sampras the best player when he can't even make it into a FO final :tape:

I'm not saying Federer is the best, but Sampras sure as hell isn't!

V's a star
Jan 10th, 2009, 12:12 AM
is there any need for this, i have an opinion, you disagree, fine but in the real world adults state their opinion and avoid being confrontational and can accept peoples views differ, you obviously aren't an adult.

I wud agree but not your "views" are clearly incorrect/dishonest and has nothing to back it up: Matt01:wavey:

MisterMan
Jan 10th, 2009, 12:14 AM
Is it Jelena's "fault" that the "system" made her number 1 ?
She didn't ask/beg/pay for it did she ? It just HAPPENED.

Ciarán
Jan 10th, 2009, 12:15 AM
He's so bitter lately :rolleyes:
Andy would kick his ass so he takes a dig at JJ :weirdo:
With her new physique he better watch his ass though :tape:

Volcana
Jan 10th, 2009, 12:16 AM
Sampras said the same thing when Marcelo Rios became #1. And Fedex is ignoring the fact that it took Nadal five slams to become #1 because Nadal was competing against possibly the greatest player of all, in that player's prime.

sammy01
Jan 10th, 2009, 12:17 AM
I wud agree but not your "views" are clearly incorrect/dishonest and has nothing to back it up: Matt01:wavey:

i have 15 loses last year, only 1 slam (his worst showing for 5 years) and 2 micky mouse tournaments, plus his competitors are all like 4 or 5 years younger than him.

the point is there was no need to say what he said, he was being bitter because hes lost to murray yet again.

Dawn Marie
Jan 10th, 2009, 12:19 AM
I'm personally not going to dog out Jelena cause of Fed's truths of the stupid WTA Tour and it's stupid ranking system. Jelena has her own problems to deal with anyway. Comparing these 2 players is retarded in itself. Fed is playing for the history books/records and Jelena is just playing, and playing and playing and playing... and playing and playing and playing and playing and playing and playing. Wow I'm fatigued and tired already just like Jelena will be when it comes to the slam semi-final.

Monica_Rules
Jan 10th, 2009, 12:20 AM
I kind of agree with him that you should win a slam before being #1 but maybe Fed should concentrate more on his own game as he is kind of on the way down now.

V's a star
Jan 10th, 2009, 12:28 AM
i have 15 loses last year, only 1 slam (his worst showing for 5 years) and 2 micky mouse tournaments, plus his competitors are all like 4 or 5 years younger than him.

the point is there was no need to say what he said, he was being bitter because hes lost to murray yet again.

wow thats like the worst record EVER!!:help: u left out possibly the greatest match of all time the Wimbledon F and he made the FO for like the 4th time in a row and won the last major. sry u need help :help: its ok so does roger losing to Murray again:tape:

fufuqifuqishahah
Jan 10th, 2009, 12:43 AM
Even if they had used ATP system, Jelena would be #1 :shrug:

i think people just forget that all the top women this year had either 1) extended periods of suckage or 2) several scattered moments of suckage. Jelena was the only one who didn't.... plus she played a lot.

Mashafaaaaan
Jan 10th, 2009, 12:50 AM
I'm personally not going to dog out Jelena cause of Fed's truths of the stupid WTA Tour and it's stupid ranking system. Jelena has her own problems to deal with anyway. Comparing these 2 players is retarded in itself. Fed is playing for the history books/records and Jelena is just playing, and playing and playing and playing... and playing and playing and playing and playing and playing and playing. Wow I'm fatigued and tired already just like Jelena will be when it comes to the slam semi-final.

OMG LOVE IT:hearts::hearts::lol::lol::lol:

Havok
Jan 10th, 2009, 12:54 AM
Oh Roger you are so retarded sometimes. Nadal has won 5 Slams, but it only took 2 of them to take the #1 ranking from you!

Mind you it is a much more difficult task getting to #1 without a Slam because you have to be that much more consistent on a regular basis.

moon
Jan 10th, 2009, 12:57 AM
I'm personally not going to dog out Jelena cause of Fed's truths of the stupid WTA Tour and it's stupid ranking system. Jelena has her own problems to deal with anyway. Comparing these 2 players is retarded in itself. Fed is playing for the history books/records and Jelena is just playing, and playing and playing and playing... and playing and playing and playing and playing and playing and playing. Wow I'm fatigued and tired already just like Jelena will be when it comes to the slam semi-final.
:lol: too funny.

Roger :kiss:
Some people on this board can't handle the truth.

sunsfuns
Jan 10th, 2009, 12:59 AM
Murray sucks. The guy had his nice little stinky run at the US Open, because everybody but Murray was exhausted from actually winning matches during the rest of the year and suddenly he´s the hot flavour of the month. Not gonna happen.

Dude, you are dreaming now - Murray is the most likely next #1 player. Fed is still great, but he is just getting older...

P.S. I am a big Roger fan. :)

OrdinaryfoolisNJ
Jan 10th, 2009, 01:01 AM
A slamless number one has happened on the men's tour as well. However, I don't see why Roger even brought up Jelena's name at all. He meant her every disrespect to bring up this controversy. This is not the first time that Roger has spoken out of turn. Personally, I was glad that Rafa took him down. I'm not a great fan of Andy Murray's as he too has put his foot in his mouth in the past, but if this guy reaches number 1, it'll be because he earned it. As long as they go on points earned, that's the way it is.

hellas719
Jan 10th, 2009, 01:03 AM
Roger:D

OrdinaryfoolisNJ
Jan 10th, 2009, 01:03 AM
Oh Roger you are so retarded sometimes. Nadal has won 5 Slams, but it only took 2 of them to take the #1 ranking from you!

Mind you it is a much more difficult task getting to #1 without a Slam because you have to be that much more consistent on a regular basis.

Exactly!

matty
Jan 10th, 2009, 01:05 AM
that's actually him taking a swipe at the tour, not jelena, he basicly just said how easy it is to become number 1 on the wta tour.

Yep, that's a swipe at the WTA.

harloo
Jan 10th, 2009, 01:14 AM
Exactly, he won the last slam, how is his slam winning days over?:tape:
Going from winning 3 slams a year to winning one because your main rival was beaten in the semis isn't some great feat. I love Federer because his game is beautiful but he's become extremely arrogant especially in defeat. Federer has yet to come up with a realistic strategy to defeat Nadal and he's talking about Jelena? He's been embarrassed repeatedly but refuses to change the dynamics of this match-up. It's made him vulnerable and now any random scrub having a good day has a chance to beat him.

Dini.
Jan 10th, 2009, 01:15 AM
It saddens me to see that people don't even have the slightest bit of respect for a champion that has been the face of tennis for the last 5 years. All this bashing of him is sickening. Seriously get a grip. I am sorry to tell you all that he said nothing wrong there. Its the truth and sometimes the truth bl00dy hurts. Being the humblest guy or the nicest guy won't win you any Slams, let alone 13. And those who say his slam days are over well they are the same people that said the same thing after FO and had to eat plenty of humble pie. Write him off at your own peril. Just because he has been owned by Murray recently takes nothing away from his incredible achievements and how he pushed everyone to bring their "A" game to beat him. He has inspired a lot of people to pick up that racquet and start believing.

It is also important to remember that the quote was taken out of context. He was probably asked something about being #1 etc and his response to that but people tend to forget that these players have press conferences and its their job to be honest and answer those questions. I don't think he made that comment out of the blue just to spark controversy, that is not his nature anyway.

Besides he does have a point. I don't have anything against JJ, she has a beautiful backhand and her defence game is probably the best in WTA- but to be a convincing #1 the results have to be there, I am not saying it should be like Federer's 2006 season, but at least one BIG title. Olympics? YEC? GS? That 3 tournaments on the trot was a nice feat but at the same time she has only had one top 5 win that season...and people talk of her consistency but yet she had a lower winning percentage than Serena. Maybe we should all give her a break and let her prove herself but he said nothing more than the truth.

All I am saying is even if you don't like him, you make yourselves look ridiculous by down grading his achievements over the years. Maybe RESPECT is what is missing from people nowadays.

sammy01
Jan 10th, 2009, 01:30 AM
It saddens me to see that people don't even have the slightest bit of respect for a champion that has been the face of tennis for the last 5 years. All this bashing of him is sickening. Seriously get a grip. I am sorry to tell you all that he said nothing wrong there. Its the truth and sometimes the truth bl00dy hurts. Being the humblest guy or the nicest guy won't win you any Slams, let alone 13. And those who say his slam days are over well they are the same people that said the same thing after FO and had to eat plenty of humble pie. Write him off at your own peril. Just because he has been owned by Murray recently takes nothing away from his incredible achievements and how he pushed everyone to bring their "A" game to beat him. He has inspired a lot of people to pick up that racquet and start believing.

It is also important to remember that the quote was taken out of context. He was probably asked something about being #1 etc and his response to that but people tend to forget that these players have press conferences and its their job to be honest and answer those questions. I don't think he made that comment out of the blue just to spark controversy, that is not his nature anyway.

Besides he does have a point. I don't have anything against JJ, she has a beautiful backhand and her defence game is probably the best in WTA- but to be a convincing #1 the results have to be there, I am not saying it should be like Federer's 2006 season, but at least one BIG title. Olympics? YEC? GS? That 3 tournaments on the trot was a nice feat but at the same time she has only had one top 5 win that season...and people talk of her consistency but yet she had a lower winning percentage than Serena. Maybe we should all give her a break and let her prove herself but he said nothing more than the truth.

All I am saying is even if you don't like him, you make yourselves look ridiculous by down grading his achievements over the years. Maybe RESPECT is what is missing from people nowadays.

but this post is so contridictory, you say people should respect roger (which i truely do, i just think his era of win slams is over) yet roger and many posters in this thread have shown no respect for jelena. at the end of the day jj went out their and tried to win every match she played, which is what every tennis player does, its not her fault that in winning as many as she has its equated to her being number one, its the system.

as for the question asked to federer im sure it was along the lines of 'do you think murray could be number 1?' this both has nothing to do with jelena nor should he try and down play the strides murray has made in the past 6 months, if murray makes number 1 hes will have deserved it.

federer response stinks of bitterness, the same bitterness he showed in practicaly saying murray had no game and would never win big playing his way when he lost to him in dubai. federer has said many things that are rather undignified.

he may very well have inspired people to play tennis but then jelena probably has to. the fact that the atp has had a player who was #1 and never won a slam shows you that its not an exclusive thing to the wta, and if jj does win a slam then rios will be the only player in history to have been ranked #1 without winning a slam in his career and guess what hes an ATP player.

it was a bitter unclassy comment from someone who is generaly a classy person, hes struggling to deal with the changing of the guard and hes been so dominant who can blame him, no one is taking away from what hes achieved but you have to go on current form at right now hes not the player he once was, its up to him to either change it or come to terms with it, taking potshots at murray, jelena or the wta won't achieve either.

Dini.
Jan 10th, 2009, 01:42 AM
but this post is so contridictory, you say people should respect roger (which i truely do, i just think his era of win slams is over) yet roger and many posters in this thread have shown no respect for jelena. at the end of the day jj went out their and tried to win every match she played, which is what every tennis player does, its not her fault that in winning as many as she has its equated to her being number one, its the system.

as for the question asked to federer im sure it was along the lines of 'do you think murray could be number 1?' this both has nothing to do with jelena nor should he try and down play the strides murray has made in the past 6 months, if murray makes number 1 hes will have deserved it.

federer response stinks of bitterness, the same bitterness he showed in practicaly saying murray had no game and would never win big playing his way when he lost to him in dubai. federer has said many things that are rather undignified.

he may very well have inspired people to play tennis but then jelena probably has to. the fact that the atp has had a player who was #1 and never won a slam shows you that its not an exclusive thing to the wta, and if jj does win a slam then rios will be the only player in history to have been ranked #1 without winning a slam in his career and guess what hes an ATP player.

it was a bitter unclassy comment from someone who is generaly a classy person, hes struggling to deal with the changing of the guard and hes been so dominant who can blame him, no one is taking away from what hes achieved but you have to go on current form at right now hes not the player he once was, its up to him to either change it or come to terms with it.

Yeah I agree about the fact that many people are taking a dig at JJ but maybe its also a dig at the way WTA works? 5 number 1's last year and it was all topsy turvy.. she does deserve more credit but at the end of the day if you deliver heaps of praise will come your way and if you don't you'll always find the people that criticise. Maybe this is something that will really pump JJ up and perhaps we may see the best of her come out when she really needs it in the big matches. I did say in my initial post though that nearly all champions are arrogant and give little/no credit to their competitors. Look at Schumacher for example, he was a total smug on track and even resorted to playing it dirty if he had to, or Usain Bolt-- everything about him is arrogance and confidence. But yet they were/are so successful. Being the nice guy doesn't win you any slams. You know he had the choice to be honest or put on a white lie and say something along the lines of "Yeah Murray is great, he will reach no.1 in no time" but he was just saying it as it was and maybe we shouldn't just jump to conclusions like that. However, he had just lost a match against Murray for the 4th consecutive time after winning the first set in all those meetings so any bitterness coming out of a champion that is so used to winning is hardly any surprise.

And Murray isn't exactly an angel either.

sunsfuns
Jan 10th, 2009, 01:44 AM
So why all this bitterness about Federer? He didn't say anything what is not true!!! Being a #1 without ever winning a slam IS SAD and DOES speak about fundamental problems of WTA.

As for his particular situation, no one is #1 forever - all three his main rivals are 5 or more years younger than him. The same thing will happen to those players too few years down the line and I doubt very much they will have 13 GS titles at the time....

pav
Jan 10th, 2009, 01:45 AM
Just turuing himself into a bit of a wanker!

supergrunt
Jan 10th, 2009, 01:48 AM
well atleast her acknowledged that womens' tennis exists... some male players pretend like its not even important to know about it

mdterp01
Jan 10th, 2009, 01:55 AM
:tape::lol::haha: LOVE YA ROGELIO!!!!

sammy01
Jan 10th, 2009, 01:56 AM
Yeah I agree about the fact that many people are taking a dig at JJ but maybe its also a dig at the way WTA works? 5 number 1's last year and it was all topsy turvy.. she does deserve more credit but at the end of the day if you deliver heaps of praise will come your way and if you don't you'll always find the people that criticise. Maybe this is something that will really pump JJ up and perhaps we may see the best of her come out when she really needs it in the big matches. I did say in my initial post though that nearly all champions are arrogant and give little/no credit to their competitors. Look at Schumacher for example, he was a total smug on track and even resorted to playing it dirty if he had to, or Usain Bolt-- everything about him is arrogance and confidence. But yet they were/are so successful. Being the nice guy doesn't win you any slams. You know he had the choice to be honest or put on a white lie and say something along the lines of "Yeah Murray is great, he will reach no.1 in no time" but he was just saying it as it was and maybe we shouldn't just jump to conclusions like that. However, he had just lost a match against Murray for the 4th consecutive time after winning the first set in all those meetings so any bitterness coming out of a champion that is so used to winning is hardly any surprise.

And Murray isn't exactly an angel either.

im totaly with you in hoping jj uses any negative reaction of her being number 1 as inspiration to go that step futher and prove people wrong (we all know this is serena favourite way to get fired up). though i do worry because you can either try and prove people wrong a la serena (who is very strong willed) or let their remarks creep into your mind and self doubt starts, i hope for jelena and the the tour its the 1st.

as for the wta rankings, they were totaly thrown into a mess by the retirement of henin. when she retired she took a 6,000 point haul away from the rankings, this is something that had never been seen before and for me its no coincidence that in the year henin retired and the wta ranking were missing 6,000 points, is the same year we have 5 numbers 1's.

as for federer, i think he needs to admit players are passing him by, he needs to get fitter, work on the backhand ect, if hes to reach the top again he needs to forget past glories and see it as a challenge to up his game again, not easy given what hes achieved.

btw im giving you a good rep as this is about the most constructive convo i've had on here in ages.

Drake1980
Jan 10th, 2009, 01:58 AM
:p

supergrunt
Jan 10th, 2009, 01:59 AM
Just out of curiosity, didn't the ATP have numerous slamless number ones :confused: ? And wasn't Carlos Moya ranked #1 in '99 when he had really done nothing that year?

sunsfuns
Jan 10th, 2009, 02:03 AM
Just out of curiosity, didn't the ATP have numerous slamless number ones :confused: ? And wasn't Carlos Moya ranked #1 in '99 when he had really done nothing that year?

As far as I know Rios is the only one. Moya was briefly #1 after he won RG.

The only other embarrassing situation I can think off is Kafelnikov reaching #1 while losing 5 straight matches...

supergrunt
Jan 10th, 2009, 02:04 AM
As far as I know Rios is the only one. Moya was briefly #1 after he won RG.

The only other embarrassing situation I can think off is Kafelnikov reaching #1 while losing 5 straight matches...

Hmmm....I wonder if people were mocking there tour at the time.

starin
Jan 10th, 2009, 02:29 AM
lol. I'm liking Federer now that's he's not winning everything under the sun.

Andrew Laeddis
Jan 10th, 2009, 02:33 AM
Federer :worship:

PLeblanc87
Jan 10th, 2009, 02:33 AM
Roger :rolleyes: Jelena deserves #1! She is dedicated to tour and wins matches, its not her fault.

And Amelie was #1 without GS and she later wins 2...Jelena will do the same! :D

Dini.
Jan 10th, 2009, 02:36 AM
im totaly with you in hoping jj uses any negative reaction of her being number 1 as inspiration to go that step futher and prove people wrong (we all know this is serena favourite way to get fired up). though i do worry because you can either try and prove people wrong a la serena (who is very strong willed) or let their remarks creep into your mind and self doubt starts, i hope for jelena and the the tour its the 1st.

as for the wta rankings, they were totaly thrown into a mess by the retirement of henin. when she retired she took a 6,000 point haul away from the rankings, this is something that had never been seen before and for me its no coincidence that in the year henin retired and the wta ranking were missing 6,000 points, is the same year we have 5 numbers 1's.

as for federer, i think he needs to admit players are passing him by, he needs to get fitter, work on the backhand ect, if hes to reach the top again he needs to forget past glories and see it as a challenge to up his game again, not easy given what hes achieved.

btw im giving you a good rep as this is about the most constructive convo i've had on here in ages.

Its true that players are passing him by- the era of domination has gone- and perhaps without those second set lapses and a bit more hard work, he could have accomplished more in 2008. All I know is that he is going to be missed when he retires, his fight, his determination, his comebacks and those extreme moments of brilliance will be unforgettable. And I really hope JJ does take the negativity from the press and the critics and proves them wrong, and I'll be honest I am not the biggest JJ fan, but she hasn't really had the chance to build on 2008.

And thank you Sammy :hearts: ..I really like the fact that you are very honest and never afraid to speak your mind- yet still remaining fair in the assessment of players and staying loyal to your fav.

Lulu.
Jan 10th, 2009, 02:43 AM
Well said Roger. :lol:

Robert-KimClijst
Jan 10th, 2009, 02:45 AM
He didn't mean it meanly at all. He is just saying there is more depth at the top of the men's game, which he's right about...

homogenius
Jan 10th, 2009, 02:52 AM
EgoKing is back.Ridiculous statement just made cause he wants people to remember how great he was not so long time ago.Nadal is n°1 now and Federer is owned by Murray (a slamless player), he should try to deal whit that.
Besides that, he can't talk shit about Murray's game anymore so all he found was to bring the wtatour and JJ in his post-match conf.Pathetic.

Indytennis
Jan 10th, 2009, 02:56 AM
Go Nadal!!!!

doni1212
Jan 10th, 2009, 02:57 AM
:hearts: o0o0oo0o0o0o now i remember why i love Roger

Exactly what I was going to say, :drool:

what can she retort with??? you're still 1 slam short of sampras' 14 slams??

:rolls:

Poor Jelena, even the best player of all time is mocking her... :haha: :haha: :haha:
About time to win a slam, Federer can´t stand a world number 1 without a slam

:haha:

Привет
Jan 10th, 2009, 03:36 AM
:yawn: I could honestly not care what Roger Federer thinks. Ever since he dropped to *shock horror gasp!* number 2 in the world all he has done is whinge about how it feels awkward and how he should be at number 1 still.

News flash Roger, you get to number 1 by playing good tennis, not because your name is Roger Federer. :wavey:

Morrissey
Jan 10th, 2009, 03:54 AM
It is a BIG DEAL because Jankovic is a joke she has not won the biggest events in tennis and that's ONE of the four grand slams. Until Jankovic wins one she deserves the criticism. Jankovic fans can talk in circles but she has to WIN a slam to get RESPECT end of story.

louisa.
Jan 10th, 2009, 04:10 AM
:shrug: AO's just around the corner so maybe you guys can at least wait until that's over before you start piling on her. This crap about grand slams during the off season is ridiculous because frankly, she can't do anything about it since there are no big tournament/grand slams to compete in.

Optima
Jan 10th, 2009, 04:12 AM
I guess I'll just be a fan who continues to talk in circles.

darrinbaker00
Jan 10th, 2009, 05:13 AM
what can she retort with??? you're still 1 slam short of sampras' 14 slams??
No, she can retort with, "At least I'm not Rafa's b****." ;)

Il Primo!
Jan 10th, 2009, 05:16 AM
Why doesn't his arrogant, bitter ass shut the hell up? I hate this guy he should stick to find a way to capture the top spot instead talking sideways about JJ.

Lulu.
Jan 10th, 2009, 05:18 AM
It is a BIG DEAL because Jankovic is a joke she has not won the biggest events in tennis and that's ONE of the four grand slams. Until Jankovic wins one she deserves the criticism. Jankovic fans can talk in circles but she has to WIN a slam to get RESPECT end of story.

Very well said.

darrinbaker00
Jan 10th, 2009, 05:21 AM
Poor Jelena, even the best player of all time is mocking her... :haha: :haha: :haha:
Rod Laver mocked Jelena Jankovic? What did he say?

darrinbaker00
Jan 10th, 2009, 05:24 AM
I'm personally not going to dog out Jelena cause of Fed's truths of the stupid WTA Tour and it's stupid ranking system. Jelena has her own problems to deal with anyway. Comparing these 2 players is retarded in itself. Fed is playing for the history books/records and Jelena is just playing, and playing and playing and playing... and playing and playing and playing and playing and playing and playing. Wow I'm fatigued and tired already just like Jelena will be when it comes to the slam semi-final.
You know it's pretty much same system they used when Venus and Serena reached #1, right?

Volcana
Jan 10th, 2009, 05:27 AM
Call me names and shoot me down if I've got this wrong, but didn't we go through all this when Kim Clijsters was ranked #1 without a slam? Then she won one, and all the critique was suddenly vapor.


Jankovic's problem, if any, is that she seems to have peaked between slams. Venus, god love her, is hardly the most consistent of players. If SHE nukes you before and after the off-season, you have to worry about Ivanovic, Sharapova, Serena, Dementivia, Safina. And if you've got six players to worry about enterig a slam, you ain't gonna win it.


I would counsel folks to study the career of Tracy Austin. If there was ever a great player who did NOT have a great career, it was her. We may have already seen the best of Jelena Jankovic. OTOH, she may be like Amelie Mauresmo, and her slam winning form is years into the future.

In The Zone
Jan 10th, 2009, 05:34 AM
It is a BIG DEAL because Jankovic is a joke she has not won the biggest events in tennis and that's ONE of the four grand slams. Until Jankovic wins one she deserves the criticism. Jankovic fans can talk in circles but she has to WIN a slam to get RESPECT end of story.

Although crude, this is the truth.

Let alone the top 4 titles, Jankovic doesn't have any of the top 8. (4 slams, Miami, IW, Olympics or YEC.) It is pretty sad when you are number one in the world and in news articles the term before your name is "mixed doubles slam champion".

Harvs
Jan 10th, 2009, 05:42 AM
thats not a swipe at jankovic at all...

SOA_MC
Jan 10th, 2009, 05:44 AM
Why doesn't his arrogant, bitter ass shut the hell up? I hate this guy he should stick to find a way to capture the top spot instead talking sideways about JJ.

You are hypocrite:o

Sander.
Jan 10th, 2009, 05:46 AM
Roger:yeah:

CJ07
Jan 10th, 2009, 05:55 AM
Although crude, this is the truth.

Let alone the top 4 titles, Jankovic doesn't have any of the top 8. (4 slams, Miami, IW, Olympics or YEC.) It is pretty sad when you are number one in the world and in news articles the term before your name is "mixed doubles slam champion".
I think thats a great point.

Listen, its not Jankovic's fault. Its the WTA's flawed ranking system. What do you expect the girl to do, give up her ranking? Of course not. So I'd stop blaming her for being a bad #1. All she does is win matches.

Polikarpov
Jan 10th, 2009, 06:05 AM
I like Jelena, but what Roger said was true.

LOL at the people saying that Roger took a swipe at Jelena just to feel better because he's no longer the no. 1 player, and that his prime has passed. As if! If Roger's days are indeed over, he could just look at his 13 grand slam trophies to feel better.

Roger is smug and arrogant because he could afford to be one.

Il Primo!
Jan 10th, 2009, 06:05 AM
You are hypocrite:o

How so?

AcesHigh
Jan 10th, 2009, 06:20 AM
For all the people ripping on Fed... um... didnt he win the latest slam? Didn't he make 2 other slam finals last year?

If anything, Federer will have to adjust like all the other greats before him. 52-week domination is impossible for him at the moment. He's going to have to conserve his energy for slams and the biggest moments and not let his ego get hurt so easily.

And I dont think he was insulting Jelena but rather talking about the level of competition on the women's tour where a slamless player can get to #1.

SOA_MC
Jan 10th, 2009, 06:27 AM
How so?

Hypocrite was wrong, I should have posted "oh the irony of you posting Roger is arrogant and bitter and saying he shouldn't talk sideways about Jankovic, with all the shit you talk about players you admit openly you "hate" any chance you get

Il Primo!
Jan 10th, 2009, 06:35 AM
Hypocrite was wrong, I should have posted "oh the irony of you posting Roger is arrogant and bitter and saying he shouldn't talk sideways about Jankovic, with all the shit you talk about players you admit openly you "hate" any chance you get

So what? I'm not a "public person". I mean what I say is not published in the media. At the end of day intelligence takes over it all. I mean public cheap shots suck, if I had something to say I would have told the person concerned personaly and that was it.

My point is that since the EgoKing got his ass kicked off the throne, he's always making this kind of hatefull comments. What irks me the most is people always praise his kindness but let's be real: it's easy to be kind when you dominate the business. And now we really see his true nature and it's time to call him out.

Louis Cyphre
Jan 10th, 2009, 06:36 AM
"If [Murray] carries on the way he is he will have a shot," said Federer. "Things change very quickly.

"But I hope if he were to become number one he would win a Slam - not like the women's side. No disrespect to Jelena Jankovic but it took Rafa five Grand Slams to become number one."

:lol::worship::devil:

supergrunt
Jan 10th, 2009, 06:38 AM
he is so bitter.. and for some reason when he gets bitchy its more annoying than if any other player were to do it.. imo

Dave.
Jan 10th, 2009, 06:45 AM
This is one of the reasons why I never liked him. He's too arrogant and still tries to put on a classy front.



As if this topic hasn't been discussed excessively last year, Jankovic does deserve the no.1 ranking. The game is not all about the slams (it never has been). There is nothing flawed about the ranking system. :yawn:

SOA_MC
Jan 10th, 2009, 06:46 AM
So what? I'm not a "public person". I mean what I say is not published in the media. At the end of day intelligence takes over it all. I mean public cheap shots suck, if I had something to say I would have told the person concerned personaly and that was it.

My point is that since the EgoKing got his ass kicked off the throne, he's always making this kind of hatefull comments. What irks me the most is people always praise his kindness but let's be real: it's easy to be kind when you dominate the business. And now we really see his true nature and it's time to call him out.

So your saying if you were a tennis pro you would be fake like Ana with your public comments:p

If anybody thinks Roger is a arrogant and bitter person you are wrapped up in cotton wool, there are much bigger arrogant and bitter assholes in the place you may have heard referred to as the real world

darrinbaker00
Jan 10th, 2009, 06:48 AM
For all the people ripping on Fed... um... didnt he win the latest slam? Didn't he make 2 other slam finals last year?

If anything, Federer will have to adjust like all the other greats before him. 52-week domination is impossible for him at the moment. He's going to have to conserve his energy for slams and the biggest moments and not let his ego get hurt so easily.

And I dont think he was insulting Jelena but rather talking about the level of competition on the women's tour where a slamless player can get to #1.
How is that Jankovic's fault? The four women who did win majors last year were either too injured (Sharapova, Ivanovic) or too uninterested (Williams sisters) to do anything outside the majors. What should the WTA Tour do, only count points from mandatory events?

Tennisation
Jan 10th, 2009, 06:49 AM
some of u just like to agree with Roger because u think he's talking shit about JJ, but in fact, he's talking shit about the entire WTA tour which includes ur very own beloved player

matthias
Jan 10th, 2009, 06:50 AM
well JJ is the female Rios
and who is Rios?

Il Primo!
Jan 10th, 2009, 06:51 AM
So your saying if you were a tennis pro you would be fake like Ana with your public comments:p

If anybody thinks Roger is a arrogant and bitter person you are wrapped up in cotton wool, there are much bigger arrogant and bitter assholes in the place you may have heard referred to as the real world

First of all, the comments I make towards Ana are for my personal entertainment :devil: I wouldn't be fake but I would the shut the hell up as long as she doesn't talk shit about me, like I do in the real life (like everyone should IMO)

And no dude, Roger really IS bitterness personified.:o

SOA_MC
Jan 10th, 2009, 07:11 AM
First of all, the comments I make towards Ana are for my personal entertainment :devil: I wouldn't be fake but I would the shut the hell up as long as she doesn't talk shit about me, like I do in the real life (like everyone should IMO)

And no dude, Roger really IS bitterness personified.:o

Ana does that or at least I've never heard her start crap with another player by taking a shot at them publicly:shrug:

If were talking which tennis player is the most bitterness personified I think Novak (and his mother) take the title.

I'm off now.

supergrunt
Jan 10th, 2009, 07:29 AM
"Orchestrated" ridicule from some sections of a message board isn't going to bother Ms Jankovic.

A swipe from King Roger is a different matter.

His bum cheeks must still be sore after being Muzz'd yesterday. :p

Jelena certainly needs to make her racquet "sing" at the 09 majors.

you're so poetic

Ian Aberdon
Jan 10th, 2009, 07:30 AM
Some comments on here are a load of shit. Other comments are spot on.

Plus ca change! :lol:

I'm interested in the comments about Fed & his "arrogance". But isn't this what makes champions in their chosen field? You have to have such a streak to make you successful, whether that is displayed outwardly &/or from within. Very few make it without such a streak, whether people like it or not. But one thing is for sure - if YOUR favourite won Slams, other tourneys etc with a touch of arrogance, you wouldn't complain. Fed will rightly go down as one of the best ever. You don't need to like him, nor agree with all he says. He knows he's good. Maybe others are attaining the same belief.

Murray seems to have that "arrogance" too, perhaps that is why he is up there now.

Hopefully JJ will develop a ruthless streak too (as long as she stays as the crazy JJ off the court!!!)

What is it they say - nice guys (& gals!) come second.

MaBaker
Jan 10th, 2009, 08:18 AM
Bitter ? Stop losing to some mugs Roger :weirdo:

supergrunt
Jan 10th, 2009, 08:21 AM
Thought for a sec I was getting a "Rodgering" from supergrunt -

I read pathetic .... blinked ... and saw "poetic"

Thanks for the compliment. :lol:

lol

AnnaK_4ever
Jan 10th, 2009, 08:25 AM
Federer is always arrogant when he loses. And since it happens every tournament nowadays he's turning into complete :weirdo:
He wasn't even asked about it but just decided to have a dig at Jelena :fiery:

LUXXXAS
Jan 10th, 2009, 08:31 AM
Federer is a loser :o

дalex
Jan 10th, 2009, 08:40 AM
JJ's such a star! http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/kink.gif

Fed, Andy says :bigwave:

markdelaney
Jan 10th, 2009, 09:50 AM
Nothing remotely arrogant about Federer's comments. He is merely stating his opinion that a player really should be winning grand slams to be ranked number 1

Brena
Jan 10th, 2009, 09:53 AM
http://smileyjungle.com/smilies/sporty52.gif

It's so sad getting old and helpless. :awww:

sammy01
Jan 10th, 2009, 10:01 AM
Nothing remotely arrogant about Federer's comments. He is merely stating his opinion that a player really should be winning grand slams to be ranked number 1

so why not use rois as the example then not jj? afterall mens tennis is different to womens tennis.

Dawn Marie
Jan 10th, 2009, 10:16 AM
You know it's pretty much same system they used when Venus and Serena reached #1, right?

Dude, the Wta tour ranking system is RETARDED! V@S who are slam winners have nothing to do with my opinion on the mentally challenged ranking system that the WTA tour uses for their players. The slams need to be worth more points even when V@S played or plays.
Your mindset is a lot like the ranking system. Retarded. I don't base my opinions based on what Venus and Serena do The ATP tour system is better than the WTA but could improve. FED X has a huge point and I'm glad he said it. I'm also grateful that V@S won slams before they got to #1.

There is a lot of tardation going on around here. darrin take your pills and count to 10. Do this in Spanish and you'll relax for a longer time.

Langers
Jan 10th, 2009, 10:26 AM
Federer bignoting himself, again.

Oh look at how much Rafa needed to achieve to top me in the rankings, wah wah!!

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 10th, 2009, 10:36 AM
She should be happy, Federer mentioned her in a sentence, I mean she hasnt done anything mentionable at all anyways apart from being gifted the number 1 ranking by the virtue of justine retiring and her tournament hogging

sammy01
Jan 10th, 2009, 10:38 AM
She should be happy, Federer mentioned her in a sentence, I mean she hasnt done anything mentionable at all anyways apart from being gifted the number 1 ranking by the virtue of justine retiring and her tournament hogging

:sad: omg has chak become that much of a non-entity she doesn't even make your hate list?

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 10th, 2009, 10:40 AM
:sad: omg has chak become that much of a non-entity she doesn't even make your hate list?

She has entered my neutral list as I have started feeling pity for her :sad: Just like the other ana.

sammy01
Jan 10th, 2009, 10:41 AM
She has entered my neutral list as I have started feeling pity for her :sad: Just like the other ana.

:bounce: chaks made reetards pity list, shes going places now lmao!

thrust
Jan 10th, 2009, 10:42 AM
:retard:

That's hardly a swipe. He prefaced it with "no disrespect."

And Jelena's still ranked higher :nerner:

It IS a swipe, not just against Jelena but the ranking system in general. Roger has become a bitter loser. He is getting a bit older and can no longer completely dominate. He now has to deal with talented and mentally tough players, like Nadal, Murray and Djokovich. Until now he only had Nadal, primarily on clay, to worry about.

Brena
Jan 10th, 2009, 10:45 AM
If one reads between the lines I think what Federer is really saying is that the women's tour don't have anyone as good as him around. With him in the mix getting to number one is very tough. He's not exactly modest.

True. He should really switch to the WTA now.

Vaidisova Ruled
Jan 10th, 2009, 10:51 AM
I'm sure Jelena don't give a damn about what the Press/Federer say about her.
She is #1, she has lots of money and that's all what matter

scoobsuk
Jan 10th, 2009, 11:08 AM
I just found Federer's comments a bit ironic.

After all, whether he took a swipe at Jankovic, or the WTA Tour rankings...the only tour so far that has a retired player who reached world #1 without winning a slam is...say it with me now...the ATP!

After all, yes, plenty of women reached #1 in the last decade or so before they won a slam - Mauresmo and Clijsters both did it - they also retrospectively backed up that by going on to lift slam trophies. Jankovic may yet do the same. She has a good chance. Rios never did.

In any case I think Roger went out of his way to take a pop in the WTA direction because he should know that with the rankings changes over the years, and especially 2009, it would be virtually impossible for a player to get to #1 without winning a slam. We're talking 3 RUs in slams against three different opponents (all of whom did poorly at the other slams) and several 1000 tournament wins too sort of scenarios. Not gonna happen.

I still love Roger but he's letting this rather petulant side of himself out for some air more and more these days.

louisa.
Jan 10th, 2009, 11:09 AM
:hug: :awww: poor old roger.

Melly Flew Us
Jan 10th, 2009, 11:20 AM
My point is that since the EgoKing got his ass kicked off the throne, he's always making this kind of hatefull comments. What irks me the most is people always praise his kindness but let's be real: it's easy to be kind when you dominate the business. And now we really see his true nature and it's time to call him out.

exactly. in my opinion, federer has always conveyed a sense of manipulative deceitfulness that is now more transparent as he loses control.

it isn't the first time he has been rude about the wta but, context of interview or no, dragging jelena into his war against his nemeses was uncalled for.

anyway jelena knows that the only way to silence the critics is to do perform according to their expectations.

DeLorean
Jan 10th, 2009, 11:21 AM
the blame for our number one and tour predicament should go to Justine but Shara getting injured didn't help neither did Ana's piss poor second half of 08...........

Ceri
Jan 10th, 2009, 11:42 AM
I like Jelena but *shrugs* Roger's right: Rafa HAS been more consistent and, well, he has been bringing home the big titles. I expect Jelena will be giving it her all this year to finally shake off the slamless no1 claims. It can't be easy for her being confronted with all this. Sure Roger's having a little pity party for himself at the moment but lets not forget that he's achieved more in his short lifetime thus far than - let's be real here - any of our faves are ever likely to. That doesn't mean that we should accept his opinions unquestioningly, but to give credit where credit is due he's entitled to have a voice on the tour.

spice_of_life
Jan 10th, 2009, 11:43 AM
I have a feeling if Vee or Ree said something similar about winning a slam to get #1 everyone would be :worship:

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 10th, 2009, 11:44 AM
Listen, its not Jankovic's fault. Its the WTA's flawed ranking system. What do you expect the girl to do, give up her ranking? Of course not. So I'd stop blaming her for being a bad #1. All she does is win matches.

exactly.

AnnaK_4ever
Jan 10th, 2009, 11:49 AM
I have a feeling if Vee or Ree said something similar about winning a slam to get #1 everyone would be :worship:

Vee and Ree DO compete against Jankovic so their remarks would be at least explainable while Federer wasn't even asked about WTA.

blamoh
Jan 10th, 2009, 12:11 PM
Injuries are part of the reason while some players on the wta
reached number without a grandslam. There was no way Clijsters
to be number one had serena not been out for almost a year.
With points accumulated from the wins in three grandslams, it was
almost impossible for someone who has never won many slams
to overtake serena. same applied to Maruesmo who also never
won a slam at the time to reach number one.
This guy is right. Because for Venus to take the number one
spot from whom I do not know she had to win four grandslams.
To overtake the number player you have to win more slams in that particular season to do that. JJ doesn't have to do that
because Justine had retired and sharapova injured, serena played fewer tournaments. In that way the road was opened for
her.In reality she is not deserving world number one but the
scenarios gave her the chance to achieve that.

VeeReeDavJCap81
Jan 10th, 2009, 02:45 PM
That's not a swipe, Roger has said worse things about players including the Williamses.

JustineTime
Jan 10th, 2009, 02:45 PM
I'm just glad to see that the next best player after Justine is right where she belongs, at the top of the rankings separated by almost 1500 points from #2. :)
Plus, she finally broke the...ummm...:hehehe:...glass ceiling and got to a GS final. The biggest difference between her and Justine has always been lack of killer instinct. Hopefully that has changed.

I've been moping too much at Justine's absence to pay much attention to tennis lately :crying2:, but I'm also heartened to see Dinara at #3. She's put in the work and really deserves it. And THERE'S someone who definitely does NOT lack killer instinct. :yeah:

barmaid
Jan 10th, 2009, 03:07 PM
that's actually him taking a swipe at the tour, not jelena, he basicly just said how easy it is to become number 1 on the wta tour.

I agree when you consider the :flipflops of the #1 ranking in the last couple of years it does put this position into perspective unlike his own 239 weeks in that slot and also Martina Hingis' reign of 209 weeks...we've had Ana, Maria, Jelena, Justine, Kim, Davenport, I don't think the Williams sisters held the #1 spot in the last few years but they have certainly been winning slams but no dominant player except Henin in the last while.

barmaid:wavey:

The Witch-king
Jan 10th, 2009, 03:13 PM
That's not a swipe, Roger has said worse things about players including the Williamses.

Like what?

I agree with most people, he should have left Jankovic/the WTA out of it. Jankovic and the WTAers work just as hard as Nadal to get where they are.

Also, I think the number one position is a bit overrated - the person who is always beating Federer is not number one- and loook at what happened to the real number one spanked around the court by Monfils!

LCS
Jan 10th, 2009, 03:13 PM
:worship:

sweetpeas
Jan 10th, 2009, 03:14 PM
Everyone has the right to say,what they what to!Right or wrong!!J.J will shut them up!!!She' going to win a slam,this yrs!:wavey:She working very very hard.Good luck J.J. it's your time.....:wavey::cool:

harloo
Jan 10th, 2009, 03:52 PM
Like what?



Apparently, you guys haven't read any of Fed's press conference interviews. At times he's been rather nasty to his competitors especially after defeat. I still haven't forgiven him for disrespecting Althea Gibson and basically dismissing her like she meant nothing. It amazes me how the media allows him to get away with it. I guarantee you if the sisters even thought about calling out Jelena it would be national news.:tape:

The Witch-king
Jan 10th, 2009, 04:01 PM
Apparently, you guys haven't read any of Fed's press conference interviews. At times he's been rather nasty to his competitors especially after defeat. I still haven't forgiven him for disrespecting Althea Gibson and basically dismissing her like she meant nothing. It amazes me how the media allows him to get away with it. I guarantee you if the sisters even thought about calling out Jelena it would be national news.:tape:

I thought he just didn't know who she was which isn't the same thing as dismissing someone.

VeeReeDavJCap81 said he said worse things about other players including the Williamses - just wanted examples.

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 10th, 2009, 04:33 PM
That's not a swipe, Roger has said worse things about players including the Williamses.


really....like what? i thought he and serena were cool.

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 10th, 2009, 04:36 PM
Apparently, you guys haven't read any of Fed's press conference interviews. At times he's been rather nasty to his competitors especially after defeat. I still haven't forgiven him for disrespecting Althea Gibson and basically dismissing her like she meant nothing. It amazes me how the media allows him to get away with it. I guarantee you if the sisters even thought about calling out Jelena it would be national news.:tape:

if I recall, he just didn't know who she was, which for him is understandable.

ms. double fault
Jan 10th, 2009, 04:38 PM
federer's right but the comment was unnecessary...

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 10th, 2009, 04:39 PM
I'm just glad to see that the next best player after Justine is right where she belongs, at the top of the rankings separated by almost 1500 points from #2. :)
Plus, she finally broke the...ummm...:hehehe:...glass ceiling and got to a GS final. The biggest difference between her and Justine has always been lack of killer instinct. Hopefully that has changed.

I've been moping too much at Justine's absence to pay much attention to tennis lately :crying2:, but I'm also heartened to see Dinara at #3. She's put in the work and really deserves it. And THERE'S someone who definitely does NOT lack killer instinct. :yeah:

dinara? yes she does.

jjcrew#1
Jan 10th, 2009, 04:48 PM
Roger. :dance:

Yeah what rank is poor old sharapova??? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 10th, 2009, 04:52 PM
Yeah what rank is poor old sharapova??? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

The poor old Sharapova gave JJ a royal spanking last time they met, remember?

Anyways 3 > 0, And sharapova is lower ranked because she didnt play half of the season where JJ was busy playing tournaments like a hungry dog so the ranking is irrelevant.

doni1212
Jan 10th, 2009, 05:03 PM
Yeah what rank is poor old sharapova??? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

This is the dumbest shit ever! How many singles grandslam titles does Sharapova have? How about Jankovic? :spit: :bolt:

ce
Jan 10th, 2009, 05:50 PM
Roger,you should better think about trying to avoid to get his ass beaten again
i lost so much respect about him lately :(

DA FOREHAND
Jan 10th, 2009, 06:46 PM
Meow.
I can't wait to hear from Jelena. :tape:

if she's smart she'll keep her trap shut

Destiny
Jan 10th, 2009, 06:48 PM
He should shut the hell up

moby
Jan 10th, 2009, 07:59 PM
Sampras said the same thing when Marcelo Rios became #1. And Fedex is ignoring the fact that it took Nadal five slams to become #1 because Nadal was competing against possibly the greatest player of all, in that player's prime.Oh, he was not ignoring that at all. That was the whole point of his comment. He couldn't care less who was ranked number 1 at all on the women's tour; it was just a convenient way to bring point in bold into conversation.

Roger says retarded arrogant things about women's tennis pretty often. Like the time he said Kuznetsova was his pick to win RG when Justine was in the draw. (Obviously, the motivation that time was to quell the comparisons between Justine and himself.)

terjw
Jan 10th, 2009, 08:39 PM
Federer has been playing a while when he and Nadal were winning all the slams and there was no way with those two so much above the rest you could get to #1 without winning a slam. He just thinks a #1 should have a slam to be a "worthy" #1. Although he's entitled to his opinion as a great player - it would have come across as les bitter and more classy not to have mentioned the WTA or Jelena at all. So he cheapens himself really.

What he is not doing is criticising the ranking system and saying they shouldn't allow a #1 without a slam. Those that think that completely miss the point.

He's basically saying that the WTA is weaker at the top if Jelena can get the #1 without winning a slam. Not the ranking system is wrong. That Maria, Ana, Venus, Serena & Jelena - the slam winners and the #1 - aren't really in the same league in the standard they need to achieve compared to him and Rafa.

Those saying the truth hurts and thinking it's a dig at Jelena or the ranking system should realise what he's really meaning about their favourites.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jan 10th, 2009, 08:44 PM
People don´t call him Ego King for any reason

sunsfuns
Jan 10th, 2009, 09:21 PM
Roger says retarded arrogant things about women's tennis pretty often. Like the time he said Kuznetsova was his pick to win RG when Justine was in the draw. (Obviously, the motivation that time was to quell the comparisons between Justine and himself.)

Wow, you are so good at knowing what Roger thinks... :rolleyes:

When asked about women's tennis (before RG few years ago) he said that he liked Sveta's game, but of course it couldn't be just that. Has to be some attack on Justine...

P.S. Poor Sveta heard about it and never won anything of importance again... :lol:

hablo
Jan 10th, 2009, 09:24 PM
Oh, he was not ignoring that at all. That was the whole point of his comment. He couldn't care less who was ranked number 1 at all on the women's tour; it was just a convenient way to bring point in bold into conversation.

Roger says retarded arrogant things about women's tennis pretty often. Like the time he said Kuznetsova was his pick to win RG when Justine was in the draw. (Obviously, the motivation that time was to quell the comparisons between Justine and himself.)

If you say so. :lol:

I do agree that Roger can be arrogant at times and that he got away with it because he won so much. I still hope he passes Sampras! :bounce:

Princeza
Jan 10th, 2009, 09:34 PM
First of all, the comments I make towards Ana are for my personal entertainment :devil:

Toujours aussi adorable à ce que j'vois Franck :p
Ca fait longtemps :kiss:

mb011
Jan 10th, 2009, 09:59 PM
i always thought of him to be more classy then that. i guess when the ship is sinking you start to lose course in many more aspects. roger is becoming this old nanny who is criticising everyone and everything. when you are losing on court you start bitching around.

Craig.
Jan 10th, 2009, 10:14 PM
Yeah what rank is poor old sharapova??? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Oh yay. A new troll.

thegoose
Jan 10th, 2009, 11:08 PM
That isn't a swipe.... he was just making a valid point that Grand Slams are more importnat than rankings...

spice_of_life
Jan 10th, 2009, 11:17 PM
Apparently, you guys haven't read any of Fed's press conference interviews. At times he's been rather nasty to his competitors especially after defeat. I still haven't forgiven him for disrespecting Althea Gibson and basically dismissing her like she meant nothing. It amazes me how the media allows him to get away with it. I guarantee you if the sisters even thought about calling out Jelena it would be national news.:tape:yes of course because not knowing who someone is = dismissing them like they meant nothing. :weirdo:

Ciarán
Jan 10th, 2009, 11:18 PM
The poor old Sharapova gave JJ a royal spanking last time they met, remember?

Anyways 3 > 0, And sharapova is lower ranked because she didnt play half of the season where JJ was busy playing tournaments like a hungry dog so the ranking is irrelevant.

:worship:

spice_of_life
Jan 10th, 2009, 11:21 PM
That's not a swipe, Roger has said worse things about players including the Williamses.Examples, please? If you're going to throw that out there you have to provide proof. What exactly has he said about V&S? Serena has said a number of times that she likes Federer or that he's one of her favorite players. I can't imagine her saying that about someone who slagged her off or made nasty comments about her.

fufuqifuqishahah
Jan 10th, 2009, 11:22 PM
I hate how everyone says Jankovic was playing a shit load!

Sure she was playing a lot, but since when was playing 22 tournaments in a year considered a shit load???? :wavey:

LightWarrior
Jan 11th, 2009, 12:23 AM
The wta ranking system is bull. Maybe the wta officials will do something about it if Jankovic plays 100 tournaments and finished #1 in 2009 but is still unable to win a slam.

MagicMilan
Jan 11th, 2009, 12:59 AM
The wta ranking system is bull. Maybe the wta officials will do something about it if Jankovic plays 100 tournaments and finished #1 in 2009 but is still unable to win a slam.
In fact ATP takes 18 tournaments + masters into ranking, WTA "only" 16 now. If 19 tournaments counted, JJ would have been #1 with greater number of points, she would have 600 points more

CoolDude7
Jan 11th, 2009, 01:06 AM
to fix this problem, slam winners should be award more points.. can't blame JJ!

Steffica Greles
Jan 11th, 2009, 01:14 AM
Marcelo Rios reached the pinnacle in men's tennis in 1998 without a slam.

The men take any opportunity to take a swipe at women's tennis, and even though they're right that it's essentially in a terrible state at the moment, they always use the term 'the women', which to me shows the source of their remarks.

Olórin
Jan 11th, 2009, 01:16 AM
Some people are reading way too much into Fed's statement. He's not taking a swipe at anyone. His comment doesn't even make any sense.

He's reeling from another Murray-battering and is taking blind swipes in the dark. That's all there is to it.

moby
Jan 11th, 2009, 01:46 AM
If you say so. :lol:

I do agree that Roger can be arrogant at times and that he got away with it because he won so much. I still hope he passes Sampras! :bounce:Clearly. Pete was a bigger ass and his game was no where as beautiful.

IIRC, there was a quote circa 99 where Pete was asked about Andre reaching number one and he was like, praising Andre for losing only 10 times that year. Before adding that half of those losses were to him. :tape::lol:

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 11th, 2009, 01:59 AM
Clearly. Pete was a bigger ass and his game was no where as beautiful.
IIRC, there was a quote circa 99 where Pete was asked about Andre reaching number one and he was like, praising Andre for losing only 10 times that year. Before adding that half of those losses were to him. :tape::lol:

OMG, yes! :worship:

AcesHigh
Jan 11th, 2009, 02:31 AM
People bring up Rios as an example...but are there any other male #1's who reached that position without a slam?

AcesHigh
Jan 11th, 2009, 02:35 AM
In fact ATP takes 18 tournaments + masters into ranking, WTA "only" 16 now. If 19 tournaments counted, JJ would have been #1 with greater number of points, she would have 600 points more

Actually, I think it's the 4 slams, 8 Masters Series events, and best other 6 results.

If the WTA was structured like the WTA, I doubt JJ would have her #1 spot as players would have to structure their schedules differently and Tier I's would have been much more competitive.

sammy01
Jan 11th, 2009, 02:39 AM
Actually, I think it's the 4 slams, 8 Masters Series events, and best other 6 results.

If the WTA was structured like the WTA, I doubt JJ would have her #1 spot as players would have to structure their schedules differently and Tier I's would have been much more competitive.

surely jj would still be #1 as serena would have a zero pointer straight away from IW, plus the chances of serena playing 18 tournaments is just nothing, so jelena would play every tier 1 plus about 8 tier 2's (best 6 counting) which would easily put her ontop, possibley even more than now.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jan 11th, 2009, 02:54 AM
People bring up Rios as an example...but are there any other male #1's who reached that position without a slam?

Ivan Lendl . Although he won Grand Slams eventually unlike Rios

terjw
Jan 11th, 2009, 10:11 AM
to fix this problem, slam winners should be award more points.. can't blame JJ!

To fix this problem - slam winners need to play better the other 50 weeks in the year. Can't blame JJ.

Matt01
Jan 11th, 2009, 12:04 PM
To fix this problem - slam winners need to play better the other 50 weeks in the year. Can't blame JJ.


Exactly. And Slam winners are already getting enough points.


surely jj would still be #1 as serena would have a zero pointer straight away from IW, plus the chances of serena playing 18 tournaments is just nothing, so jelena would play every tier 1 plus about 8 tier 2's (best 6 counting) which would easily put her ontop, possibley even more than now.


I agree.

VeeReeDavJCap81
Jan 11th, 2009, 06:15 PM
Examples, please? If you're going to throw that out there you have to provide proof. What exactly has he said about V&S? Serena has said a number of times that she likes Federer or that he's one of her favorite players. I can't imagine her saying that about someone who slagged her off or made nasty comments about her. He made comments about them a few yearsd ago at Wimbledon basically saying that they should suck it up and not complain about being on Court 2. Even though he never has to play there himself. End of history lesson.

spice_of_life
Jan 11th, 2009, 06:48 PM
He made comments about them a few yearsd ago at Wimbledon basically saying that they should suck it up and not complain about being on Court 2. Even though he never has to play there himself. End of history lesson.That's the best you can come up with? :haha:

3Dcool
Jan 11th, 2009, 07:15 PM
After his loss to Andy Murray today Federer said:

:devil:

He is totally right! In Men's tour you don't play every week.. Jankovic does..

Ian Aberdon
Jan 11th, 2009, 08:20 PM
Poor Fed...obviously coming to terms with Murray whupping his Swiss Ass AGAIN...:devil:

sharapovarulz1
Jan 11th, 2009, 08:26 PM
Nicely put Roger and I agree with him! If Andy wants to be no1 he's got to do it in style :D

ms_nut
Jan 11th, 2009, 09:33 PM
He is totally right! In Men's tour you don't play every week.. Jankovic does..

:confused: Didn't Andy Murray play 22 events last year?? Even Federer played 19 tournaments last year and Nadal 18..

Zauber
Jan 11th, 2009, 09:43 PM
its a hit at the wta
what happened to diplomatic Federer.
if he gets surly he may have a chance at winning more slams this year.