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fufuqifuqishahah
Oct 25th, 2008, 04:14 AM
Here are my rankings. :D

1. Serena
2. Maria
3. Venus
4. Jelena
5. Amelie
6. Ana
7. Lindsay
8. Elena
9. Sania

-BIG GAP-

Daniela
Jelena Dokic
Ai
Nadia
Safina

-BIG GAP-

Bartoli
Na Li
Zvonareva
Schnyder
Vaidisova
Safarova
Mattek

-small gap-

Others worth mentioning
Harkleroad
Cornet
Dellacqua
Radwanska
Kuznetsova
Kirilenko
Chakvetadze
Zheng
Sprem
Szavay
Peng
Wozniacki
Date
Peer
Karatantcheva :devil:

doni1212
Oct 25th, 2008, 04:30 AM
1. Serena
2. Venus
3. Maria
4. Ana

I don't think anyone else draws large crowds at all, :shrug:

Oh, and Ana will be number 3 in the next couple of years, or less, ;)

drake3781
Oct 25th, 2008, 04:38 AM
I'm not going to rank them, but from experience, the buzz is around Serena, to a lesser degree Venus.

Surprising one is Mirza, at least in Cincinnati - she gets a large crowd of Indians.

And of course, Sharapova.

Nikkiri
Oct 25th, 2008, 04:48 AM
1. Serena
2. Maria
3. Venus
4. Ana
5. Jelena

InsideOut.
Oct 25th, 2008, 05:05 AM
It depends on the location. In Hong Kong Sharapova rules, for example. :)

Emina.
Oct 25th, 2008, 05:08 AM
Maria and the Williams sisters :shrug:

then Ana and JJ..

danieln1
Oct 25th, 2008, 05:11 AM
Serena
Maria
Venus
Ivanovic
Lindsay
Jankovic
Elena

Привет
Oct 25th, 2008, 05:14 AM
It depends on the location. In Hong Kong Sharapova rules, for example. :)

This is really true. I think Serena and Maria draw large crowds wherever they go. Venus also.

But the location is key for everyone else. For example, I noticed you gave Dellacqua a mention. This Australian Summer, I bet there will be hoards of Aussie fans watching all of Casey's matches, because of her great run last year. Ivanovic will get lots of people coming to see her matches in Melbourne as well because everyone seemed to fall in love with her there this year.

So it really just depends on where the player is playing. :shrug:

duhcity
Oct 25th, 2008, 05:18 AM
Ana also has family in Australia.

Also a lot of my [American] friends really like Jelena. But they still would put Serena and Venus over her. Others that I force to watch tennis with me want to see sharapova and then find her grunting slightly annoying.

But Sharapova has a huge pull anyway.

Shvedbarilescu
Oct 25th, 2008, 05:43 AM
Location, location, location.

Before answering such a question I would need to know where this mythical match would take place.

Harvs
Oct 25th, 2008, 05:47 AM
Maria
Serena
Venus
Ana
Lindsay
Jelena

Optima
Oct 25th, 2008, 05:51 AM
It's all location :shrug:

In the US barely anyone even knows who Lindsay Davenport is.

enchantrezz
Oct 25th, 2008, 06:20 AM
Sharapova and WS can draw large crowds regardless of location.

They are the ones known to non tennis fans, just like Jordan or Kobe in basketball or Tiger Woods in golf.

The others all depends on where they're playing.

BuTtErFrEnA
Oct 25th, 2008, 06:24 AM
serena, venus, maria

ana











rest....:)

dreamgoddess099
Oct 25th, 2008, 06:59 AM
As it's been said many times by many sources, no one makes the ratings needle move like a Williams.

Golovinjured.
Oct 25th, 2008, 07:09 AM
Serena & Maria
Venus
Ana

Jankovic

Mauresmo, Dokic, Dementieva, Hantuchova, Golovin, Davenport & Mirza
Remaining Top 50, juniors, comeback kids are all on par from then on in.

But yeah, it's different wherever you go. :shrug: Kournikova/Hingis would top the list if they were still around.

kwilliams
Oct 25th, 2008, 07:11 AM
I agree that it's all about Serena, Venus and Sharapova.

Then the Serbs.

Then Davenport and the Russians.

Sharakim
Oct 25th, 2008, 07:39 AM
Top three who draw the biggest crowds
Maria Sharapova
Serena Williams
Venus Williams

The strongest of the rest
Ana Ivanovic
Jelena Jankovic
Lindsey Davenport
Amelie Mauresmo
Svetlana Kuznetsova
Elena Dementieva
Dinara Safina

vswfan
Oct 25th, 2008, 07:41 AM
its hard to rank, but definitely Williams sisters, Maria and Ana

*W*
Oct 25th, 2008, 08:19 AM
serena
Venus
Maria
Ana
Jelena
Sania

In The Zone
Oct 25th, 2008, 08:22 AM
I'd put Davenport over Ivanovic. The European and Australian crowds love Lindsay.

In the US, Lindsay is the darling for the CROWDS. (TV ratings, the Sisters do better, but Lindsay always sells out, too, just not on TV.)

But obviously,

Serena
Maria
Venus.

Venus is below Maria only because she is so humble and elegant. Maria and Serena are more fiery and more intense. More of a show.

Pheobo
Oct 25th, 2008, 08:23 AM
Most of them have already been mentioned but let's not forget about Kournikova. Every time she plays some silly little exo or WTT she draws pretty good crowds.

Mateo Mathieu
Oct 25th, 2008, 08:46 AM
Kournikova >>>>>>>> WS and Sharapova ;)

Cp6uja
Oct 25th, 2008, 10:17 AM
Ana is crowd favorite across Europe and Australia, so i think in current global "star power" she already overtake Venus and right now is #3 (behind Maria and Serena). #5 is Jelena Jankovic, but who is #6 i'm realy dont know. Former champions like Mauresmo or Davenport is still well recognized, for people which follow tennis Dementieva is always popular and because her famouos brother is easy to remember who is Safina, now when she is elite player. Also three "local girls" Mirza, Li and Zheng have star status in theys region, but dont forget that these countries is over 1.000.000.000...

So... i gues:
1.Maria, 2.Serena,
3.Ana, 4.Venus,
5.Jelena,
6.???

Adal
Oct 25th, 2008, 10:20 AM
1 - Serena/Maria
2 - Venus/Ana

Russianboy
Oct 25th, 2008, 10:27 AM
Maria
Williams


rest

StephenUK
Oct 25th, 2008, 10:43 AM
As it's been said many times by many sources, no one makes the ratings needle move like a Williams.

Funny you should say that but Britain's Laura Robson got 1 million more British TV viewers than the Williams for winning the junior final at Wimbledon than the all-Williams senior final.

So that must make Laura Robson the number one now! :worship:

No, seriously, I would say Serena Williams and Sharapova, then Ivanovic and Venus next. Jankovic, Mauresmo and Davenport to follow. Mirza will get good support where there are large Indian communities eg in the UK. But there will be Laura Robson mania next year during the grass court season, the UK media are following her to ITFs!! Laura and Venus are the only two players guaranteed to be on Centre Court for their first round match at Wimbledon next year - Maria and Serena will be probably be demoted to court 1!!

Miss Amor
Oct 25th, 2008, 12:07 PM
1) Serena
2) Maria
3) Venus
4) Ana

Szczecin
Oct 25th, 2008, 12:13 PM
Elena Dementieva doesn't draw particularly large crowds because she is relatively quiet.

She is all but unknown in Australia.

Max565
Oct 25th, 2008, 12:26 PM
At Wimbledon at least, it has to be the Holy Trinity - Serena, Maria and Venus.

and then to a lesser degree - Ana, Jelena, Lindsay

youizahoe
Oct 25th, 2008, 01:24 PM
1. Serena & Maria
2. Venus & Jelena
3. Ana & Dinara

Mikey.
Oct 25th, 2008, 01:45 PM
Definitely Serena, Venus and then Maria. Ana to a lesser extent but I think her popularity is rising very quickly. ;)

vadin124
Oct 25th, 2008, 02:24 PM
In Britain:

Venus
Serena

^
Big Gap
^

Sharapova
Robson

^
Small Gap
^

Jankovic
Davenport

^
Smaller Gap
^

Ivanovic
Mauresmo
Kuznetsova
Chakvetadze
Li
Zheng
Safina

KournikovaFan91
Oct 25th, 2008, 03:31 PM
1 Venus and/or Serena
2 Ana
3 Sharapova

GAP


4 Dinara
5 Jelena (she may be number one but outside the major fans of the game she isnt well known.)

GAP


6 Hauntuchova
7 Dementieva
8 Wozniacki
9 Chakvetadze
Everyone else

lolas
Oct 25th, 2008, 04:08 PM
In Europe Mauresmo is a huge factor. Traditionalist love her.

Dominic
Oct 25th, 2008, 05:12 PM
Maria
Serena
Venus
Ana-Jelena
Davenport

drake3781
Oct 25th, 2008, 06:15 PM
In case you are from outside the US, Ana Ivanovic is virtually unknown here in the US.

serenus_2k8
Oct 25th, 2008, 06:49 PM
Surely players with a home slam should be topping this poll, we all know how much buzz there can be over them at a slam.

During the rest of the tour, I would agree with most of the early posts:

Maria, Venus and Serena more or less equal 1st, perhaps Ree just ahead, because of their star power.

Ana is increasing, though most of my (pretty ignorant) friends wouldnt be able to tell you who on earth she is :lol: But for tennis fans, she is up there.

Then I would say JJ & Amelie leading the next group.

Lots of top ranked players get watched because of their rankings and people want to watch the quality tennis. Also players who are young upcomers can get lots of attention too.

There are random exceptions when a player gets lots of media attention (more in slams than normal events) such as Baghdatits in AO 06 when crowds get really attached to a player, so it all depends.

sweetpeas
Oct 25th, 2008, 06:52 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As it's been said many times by many sources, no one makes the ratings needle move like a Williams.


SO true...Maria next!

The Daviator
Oct 25th, 2008, 07:05 PM
It's all location :shrug:

In the US barely anyone even knows who Lindsay Davenport is.

That's not the point of the thread, at tennis events, Lindsay is a big draw anywhere, in the US, she would be 4th after the WS and Sharapova.

My overall ranking would be -

1. Serena
2. Sharapova
3. Venus
4. Ivanovic
5. Davenport
6. Jankovic
7. Mauresmo
8. Dementieva

Volcana
Oct 25th, 2008, 07:16 PM
Two questions.

a) Are we talking ticket sales or TV audience?

b) Where? The USA? Russia? China? India? The EU?

If we're talking ticket sales,and the USA, I'd say
1 Sharapova
2 Serena
3 Venus
4 Forget it. American aren't that interested in women's tennis
If it's TV ratings and the USA, then
1 Serena
2 Venus
3 Sharpova
Now move it to Russia, and suddenly Dementieva, Zvonareva, Chakvetadze, Petrova et al move up the rankings. Go to India and it's Sania Mirza first, go to China and Shaui Peng and Na Li are at the top of the charts.

rjd1111
Oct 25th, 2008, 10:41 PM
It depends on the location. In Hong Kong Sharapova rules, for example. :)

" The charismatic Williams charmed the crowd throughout the week and was adopted by the capital’s fans who throughout her matches chanted her newly acquired Chinese nickname “Xiao Wei” (Little Williams). The 12 personal bodyguards assigned to “Xiao Wei” for the week struggled to keep up with the enthusiasm of the fans that followed her throughout the massive facilities of the young event, which has been earmarked, by Beijing and China to be developed into one of the world’s premier tennis tournaments "

freeandlonely
Oct 25th, 2008, 11:04 PM
1.Sharapova/Williams
2.Ana/Jelena/top Russians/specific players for specific regions/other elite players/some medium-top players known for something including maybe beauty
3.others



By the way, here Taiwan media I feel Ana is usually compared with Maria, probably because : 1.they are elite players/ 2. our media may think they are the 2 most beautiful ones in this era.

Wiggly
Oct 25th, 2008, 11:33 PM
The Williamses and Sharapova.
Then comes the Serbian.

And finally, Mauresmo, Davenport, Dementieva, Hantuchova,etc. The type of players that was once a top 5 and got a lot of media attention/big results and people recognize their names and not their rankings.

Dave.
Oct 25th, 2008, 11:56 PM
SerenaVenusAna, Davenport and pova.

Obviously it depends on the location though.

Slutiana
Oct 26th, 2008, 12:06 AM
WS/Sharapova. WS definatly top T.V Ratings 100% sure of that but there are many variables to who would draw the most crowds... I mean at wimbledon I saw Venus practice on an outside court and then after Venus and Serena play Radwanksa and Domachowska on an outside court. Both times it was PACKED. There was no space to go anywhere. But im sure in other places that Sarapova would maybe draw as big a crowd in that. In Europe.

I'd say the WS in US and UK, Maria in Europe and then it's kind of a Toss up in Asia. :shrug:

So:

1. WS/Sharapova


















































2. Serbs


3. Daveport/Mauresmo/Top Russians/
4. Golovin/Vaidisova







5. Rest

KournikovaFan91
Oct 26th, 2008, 12:08 AM
this thread would have been so much easier 10 years ago with Seles, Hingis, Kournikova, Graf :lol:

They appealed to non tennis fans unlike todays bunch

mashamaniac
Oct 26th, 2008, 12:08 AM
1.Maria
2.serena
3.ana
4.venus

Uranium
Oct 26th, 2008, 12:10 AM
Serena
Venus
Maria
Elena
Ana
Dokic
others

CJ07
Oct 26th, 2008, 01:19 AM
I think there is a difference between tennis fans and non-tennis fans.

If you ask the average person, I bet less than 25% know who Maria Sharapova is. I would venture that more than 50% know who the Williams sisters are. I also would venture that slightly less know who Anna Kournikova is. This is reflected through TV ratings, which in all honesty is the only thing that matters.

Obviously, Serena and Venus have been around much longer, but when people say Sharapova is more popular than they are thats patently false. She is just some blonde Russian to the average person. It doesn't mean she's a great player its just that she's not known

goldenlox
Oct 26th, 2008, 01:34 AM
It varies depending on what part of the world.
Probably Mirza is first. But not everywhere. The most popular of the Chinese girls might be #2.
If Robson becomes good, she'll be a big draw in parts of the world.

Dawson.
Oct 26th, 2008, 01:39 AM
In England;

1) Maria
2) Serena
3) Ana
4) Venus
5) Amelie

OsloErik
Oct 26th, 2008, 01:52 AM
It's hard to gauge because different regions have different crowd draws, but I'd say that all things being equal, Serena is #1 followed by Venus, and then Sharapova. Ivanovic is getting there, but she barely beats Sharapova in Europe (if at all) and doesn't command the same crowd as Sharapova in Asia or North America. After that, Sania Mirza and Jelena Jankovic can consistently bring a crowd, but I'll go with Jelena because she makes it further in tournaments. After that, I don't really know. Peer gets butts in seats at the US Open, and maybe Miami, but not much else. A few of the better looking, better known Russians (Dementieva, for example) have pretty decent followings. Mauresmo too has a nice contingent. Davenport as well.

I think it's a combination of things. Players like Dementieva, Davenport, and Mauresmo have been around long enough that their fans have more of a disposable income than, say, Chakvetadze, or Azarenka, or Radwanska fans. Then, the "hot" players (Williams x2, Serbia x2, Sharapova) with big results have drawn big crowds since their first breakthrough. And then there are niche fans. Peer gets a lot of people to come see a fellow Israeli/Jew play top-flight tennis. Her US Open 2nd and 3rd rounds in 2007 were PACKED for a women's match, even in New York, and she got to play under the lights awfully early for a world #20 or so player. Mirza isn't a top 20 player, but comes from a country with MILLIONS of immigrants, located in virtually every city that tennis is played in.

As for the big-draw players of the future, several friends of mine are big fans of Wozniacki and Azarenka. Once they hit the top 10/top 5 (and stay there) they can have the same kind of following of a Dementieva or Mauresmo. I personally don't think Ivanovic is going to be as successfully marketed in the U.S.A. as Sharapova simply because her English isn't quite as fluent, but she's going to be a big-time endorsement success in Europe for 5-10 years to come. Jankovic too, especially if she wins a slam. I think advertisers are drooling over the prospect of an attractive player who competes more than 15 tournaments a year. When was the last time that happened?

Slampova
Oct 26th, 2008, 01:53 AM
Maria/Serena/Venus...

starin
Oct 26th, 2008, 02:13 AM
It varies depending on what part of the world.
Probably Mirza is first. But not everywhere. The most popular of the Chinese girls might be #2.
If Robson becomes good, she'll be a big draw in parts of the world.

:shrug:
tennis isn't that popular in China

Adaora
Oct 26th, 2008, 02:54 AM
The Williams sisters pull huge crowds wherever they go. Serena obviously tops everyone...Venus is above Maria especially in the US, while Maria may pull more crowd in some other countries. So here is how I rank them:

1. Serena
2. Venus


3. Maria
4. Ana
5. Lindsay
6. Jelena
7. Elena

Adaora
Oct 26th, 2008, 03:02 AM
I think there is a difference between tennis fans and non-tennis fans.

If you ask the average person, I bet less than 25% know who Maria Sharapova is. I would venture that more than 50% know who the Williams sisters are. I also would venture that slightly less know who Anna Kournikova is. This is reflected through TV ratings, which in all honesty is the only thing that matters.

Obviously, Serena and Venus have been around much longer, but when people say Sharapova is more popular than they are thats patently false. She is just some blonde Russian to the average person. It doesn't mean she's a great player its just that she's not known

Truer words have never been said!
I keep telling these folks here that most of my non-tennis fan friends don't know who the hell Maria Sharapova, whereas Venus and Serena are household names.
The reason - I think - being that Venus and Serena (2 African American girls)pretty much just came from no where and dominated this predominantly white sports. This makes draw lots of attention...And the fact that they are sisters makes them stand out even more.

CJ07
Oct 26th, 2008, 03:27 AM
Truer words have never been said!
I keep telling these folks here that most of my non-tennis fan friends don't know who the hell Maria Sharapova, whereas Venus and Serena are household names.
The reason - I think - being that Venus and Serena (2 African American girls)pretty much just came from no where and dominated this predominantly white sports. This makes draw lots of attention...And the fact that they are sisters makes them stand out even more.
Also, even since Sharapova won in 2004, the sisters have won 3 slams each so they have gotten more exposure in the big events anyway.

rjd1111
Oct 26th, 2008, 03:27 AM
:shrug:
tennis isn't that popular in China

" The tremendous success of the China Open, which is organized by China’s National Ministry of Sport and the Beijing Municipal Government, has laid-down a solid foundation for the development of the tournament into China’s premier long-term, global-scale annual sporting event. The presence of the three members of China’s all-powerful elite Communist Party Standing Committee, multiple Ministers, Governors and Mayors from the People’s Republic’s various cities and provinces and both WTA and ATP CEOs, Larry Scott and Mark Miles, has served as notice on the world of tennis that China wants to take Centre Court.
“The inaugural China Open was a great success. It is clear from the enthusiasm of the fans that the China Open has a very bright future,” said Mr. Scott following the China Open’s awards ceremony."

V-MAC
Oct 26th, 2008, 03:39 AM
In England;

1) Maria
2) Serena
3) Ana
4) Venus
5) Amelie

Ana over the 5-time Wimbledon champion in England?!! err....ok :spit:

enchantrezz
Oct 26th, 2008, 03:42 AM
Truer words have never been said!
I keep telling these folks here that most of my non-tennis fan friends don't know who the hell Maria Sharapova, whereas Venus and Serena are household names.


Then all the more Ana Ivanovic and the rest are unknown :lol:

Seriously, its only Maria and WS who are known outside tennis world. Ana is very popular among the tennis buffs but surprisingly she's not yet in the same celebrity status as the trio.

Dawson.
Oct 26th, 2008, 03:43 AM
Ana over the 5-time Wimbledon champion in England?!! err....ok :spit:

Ana is plastered all over national newspapers during wimbledon because shes hot. Just look at FHM 100 sexiest women, she was #25 or something. To be honest, I think England is bored of venus, and serena for that matter :shrug:. Besides, some people (who dont know much about tennis) cannot tell which sister is which ;)

Callum
Oct 26th, 2008, 03:57 AM
Ana is plastered all over national newspapers during wimbledon because shes hot. Just look at FHM 100 sexiest women, she was #25 or something. To be honest, I think England is bored of venus, and serena for that matter :shrug:. Besides, some people (who dont know much about tennis) cannot tell which sister is which ;)

That is bollocks, and you know it. Being ranked at 25 in FHM doesn't make you a bigger crowd draw. Venus is adored at Wimbledon, the UK has a lot of respect for it's champions. I've been for the last few years, and Venus gets a LOT of support, whereas with Ana they were cheering Zheng more.

SOA_MC
Oct 26th, 2008, 04:35 AM
In Australia

1. Sharapova
2. Serena



3. Davenport
4. Ivanovic

5. Venus & Jankovic



6. Hantuchova - Has a sizable local fan base but outside of that group not alot people know of her

Golovinjured.
Oct 26th, 2008, 07:54 AM
In Australia

1. Sharapova
2. Serena



3. Davenport
4. Ivanovic

5. Venus & Jankovic



6. Hantuchova - Has a sizable local fan base but outside of that group not alot people know of her

You think Hantuchova would draw a bigger crowd than Dellacqua or Dokic in Australia?

:help:


In Australia:

Sharapova
Serena & Ivanovic
Dokic, Dellacqua, Stosur
Davenport
Venus
Jankovic

VishaalMaria
Oct 26th, 2008, 08:59 AM
Ana is plastered all over national newspapers during wimbledon because shes hot. Just look at FHM 100 sexiest women, she was #25 or something. To be honest, I think England is bored of venus, and serena for that matter :shrug:. Besides, some people (who dont know much about tennis) cannot tell which sister is which ;)

Well that's "The Sun" all over, they usually plaster pictures of hot women but that doesn't mean they are popular. Venus is alot more recognised in the UK and if you go to her matches at Wimbledon she recieves ALOT of support.

Chance
Oct 26th, 2008, 09:29 AM
I don't agree concerning V. .. IMO Venus is more popular than Davenport in Australia, I'll say V is up there with Serena and Sharpy. Venus has the buzz, she was adored when she played the Gold Coast event and she always has support when she plays.... The media though is another story...

Miss Amor
Oct 26th, 2008, 11:20 AM
In England;

1) Maria
2) Serena
3) Ana
4) Venus
5) Amelie

LOL Which UK do you live in? Venus is a household name ...apart from some collge going straight boys who buy FHM , no one knows much about Ana.

Ana is plastered all over national newspapers during wimbledon because shes hot. Just look at FHM 100 sexiest women, she was #25 or something. To be honest, I think England is bored of venus, and serena for that matter :shrug:. Besides, some people (who dont know much about tennis) cannot tell which sister is which ;)

Who appointed you the spokesperson of Wimbledon?
Wimbledon is bored of the Williams..thats why they get so much crowd to even watch them practice.

In popularity in the uk the top 4 would be - Williams/Maria/Jelena/Laura

Even Jelena is more known than Ana as she won the Mixed doubles title here at Wimbledon along with a brit plus because of the publicity their 'affair' got.

Get real.

Mikey.
Oct 26th, 2008, 11:49 AM
In Australia

1. Sharapova
2. Serena



3. Davenport
4. Ivanovic

5. Venus & Jankovic



6. Hantuchova - Has a sizable local fan base but outside of that group not alot people know of her

You think Hantuchova would draw a bigger crowd than Dellacqua or Dokic in Australia?

:help:


In Australia:

Sharapova
Serena & Ivanovic
Dokic, Dellacqua, Stosur
Davenport
Venus
Jankovic

How come you guys rate Lindsay so high? I hardly hear anything about her in the Media here.

Ballbasher
Oct 26th, 2008, 12:03 PM
Maria clearly leads in Europe I would say, even most of the non tennis fans know her, while Serena/Venus are better to known to persons who play tennis themselves! Ivanovic has risen very fast lately, while Jankovic is slowly getting there,too. Mauresmo and especially Henin were very popular, while Mauresmo has been overtaken lately!

ce
Oct 26th, 2008, 01:19 PM
Serena Williams
Maria Sharapova
Venus Williams

Jelena and Ana

of course in Serbia

ana and jelena








sharapova
serena(they dont know venus)

Dawson.
Oct 26th, 2008, 01:55 PM
LOL Which UK do you live in? Venus is a household name ...apart from some collge going straight boys who buy FHM , no one knows much about Ana.

'The William Sisters' are household names. From personal experience, I know that not many people know which sister is which and constantly need reminding (which is backed up by the fact you included both sisters as 1 in your comment below ;)). Plus i think you underestimate the power of some tabloid newspapers. 10 million people see pics ana and maria bending over, and they also see andy murray platstered all over the back pages. Serena and venus usually share a small collum space in the back - further proving my point.

Who appointed you the spokesperson of Wimbledon?
Wimbledon is bored of the Williams..thats why they get so much crowd to even watch them practice.

In popularity in the uk the top 4 would be - Williams/Maria/Jelena/Laura

Even Jelena is more known than Ana as she won the Mixed doubles title here at Wimbledon along with a brit plus because of the publicity their 'affair' got.

Get real.

Who said that I was spokesperson for wimbledon? :confused: This is my opinion and just because you think otherwise, it doesn't mean that i am wrong and vis verca.

And if your going to include robson in this (which i didnt because i thought we were only including top players) why isnt she number 1? More people watched her final than the 'All william sister final'.

Dawson.
Oct 26th, 2008, 02:03 PM
That is bollocks, and you know it. Being ranked at 25 in FHM doesn't make you a bigger crowd draw. Venus is adored at Wimbledon, the UK has a lot of respect for it's champions. I've been for the last few years, and Venus gets a LOT of support, whereas with Ana they were cheering Zheng more.

:lol: now whos talking bollocks!

You know full well that the british crowd supports the underdog, especially if the underdog is playing well. Venus gets a lot of support in earlier rounds because shes wiping the floor with opponents who no one has ever heard of (excluding this year as she faced brits). But if these no bodies are giving the top players a run for their money, they get the most support, eg Sprem 2004.
That is what happened to ana this year against jie. also for kudryattseva (sp?) against maria.
Watch the crowds reaction when she won wimbledon last year against Bartoli, the crowd were almost silent it was awkward to watch, just mildly clapping. If she had so much support, the crowd would have errupted.

Miss Amor
Oct 26th, 2008, 02:39 PM
'The William Sisters' are household names. From personal experience, I know that not many people know which sister is which and constantly need reminding (which is backed up by the fact you included both sisters as 1 in your comment below ;)). Plus i think you underestimate the power of some tabloid newspapers. 10 million people see pics ana and maria bending over, and they also see andy murray platstered all over the back pages. Serena and venus usually share a small collum space in the back - further proving my point.



Who said that I was spokesperson for wimbledon? :confused: This is my opinion and just because you think otherwise, it doesn't mean that i am wrong and vis verca.

And if your going to include robson in this (which i didnt because i thought we were only including top players) why isnt she number 1? More people watched her final than the 'All william sister final'.

Thats more like wishful thinking on your part..Just check all the articles regarding venus/serena on published in the Telegraph/The Sun/The guardian on their websites..they are more than just a column

youizahoe
Oct 26th, 2008, 02:59 PM
Wherever you go in the world, the sold out matches are mostly serena's, then followed by maria and venus.

friendsita
Oct 26th, 2008, 05:47 PM
serena
venus
maria

friendsita
Oct 26th, 2008, 08:15 PM
Ws

Sharapowerr
Oct 26th, 2008, 08:38 PM
At all 4 GS

1 : Maria ( You like her or hate her.. she is just a phenomenon, The biggest star of the female tennis )
2 : Probably Serena Williams , but at RG or the AO probably Ana will have more crowd..
3/4 Ana and Venus

Ana ( Nice solid player , with a lack of charimsma , the same for Venus who achieved more...

The best of the rest JJ/Dementieva/Safina

madmax
Oct 26th, 2008, 09:20 PM
At all 4 GS

1 : Maria ( You like her or hate her.. she is just a phenomenon, The biggest star of the female tennis )
2 : Probably Serena Williams , but at RG or the AO probably Ana will have more crowd..
3/4 Ana and Venus

Ana ( Nice solid player , with a lack of charimsma , the same for Venus who achieved more...

The best of the rest JJ/Dementieva/Safina
I agree, I think to a casual person Masha is best known female tennis player of them all, you can find plenty of her commercials everywhere, she is fierce and relentless on the court, and her physical apppearance don't hurt her either:lick: Hell, she is even invited into the most popular american TV shows, like David Letterman or Ellen:drool: She is by far the most popular player worldwide

OsloErik
Oct 26th, 2008, 10:59 PM
I agree, I think to a casual person Masha is best known female tennis player of them all, you can find plenty of her commercials everywhere, she is fierce and relentless on the court, and her physical apppearance don't hurt her either:lick: Hell, she is even invited into the most popular american TV shows, like David Letterman or Ellen:drool: She is by far the most popular player worldwide

Serena has done all those TV shows, and then some :shrug:

I think that both Williams sisters are much more well known. They've been at the top of the tennis world for close to 10 years, and that alone gets you a lot of exposure. For a lot of people, women's tennis IS the Williams sisters. It's telling that in 2005 and 2006, periods when Sharapova hit the #1 spot, most people still assumed Serena was #1. Is Sharapova closing that gap? Sure. But she's still a few steps behind both sisters individually, just as Ana remains several steps behind Sharapova.

SOA_MC
Oct 27th, 2008, 01:14 AM
You think Hantuchova would draw a bigger crowd than Dellacqua or Dokic in Australia?

:help:


In Australia:

Sharapova
Serena & Ivanovic
Dokic, Dellacqua, Stosur
Davenport
Venus
Jankovic

I didn't include Australian players because their irrelevant to people outside of Australia

How come you guys rate Lindsay so high? I hardly hear anything about her in the Media here.

Longevity. she is/was a top 5 contender to win AO for the last 12 years or so. If you listen to the crowd people support her over the underdog player to me that's a sign of popularity and she got alot of sympathy and support from that Pat Cash comment in the mid/late 90's that has carried through to this day

doni1212
Oct 27th, 2008, 01:18 AM
Serena has done all those TV shows, and then some :shrug:

I think that both Williams sisters are much more well known. They've been at the top of the tennis world for close to 10 years, and that alone gets you a lot of exposure. For a lot of people, women's tennis IS the Williams sisters. It's telling that in 2005 and 2006, periods when Sharapova hit the #1 spot, most people still assumed Serena was #1. Is Sharapova closing that gap? Sure. But she's still a few steps behind both sisters individually, just as Ana remains several steps behind Sharapova.

Only 2, and that's off of clay to be exact, ;)

baleineau
Oct 27th, 2008, 01:31 AM
location is key. the americans thought that christine henin-hardenne won the US Open in 2003. but in general, Serena-Venus-Maria are the three crowd pullers. the rest are really only known to tennis and all-sport fans. Only Serena, Venus and Maria are household names.

OsloErik
Oct 27th, 2008, 05:34 AM
How come you guys rate Lindsay so high? I hardly hear anything about her in the Media here.

Davenport (and Mauresmo) both are relatively high in terms of public consciousness anywhere they go because they've been around the top 5-10-20 for the past 10-15 years. Ultimately, if you make it deep enough in draws for long enough, average citizens mulling over which match to watch at an even are going to recognize your name.

Neither player ranks very high in terms of Q factor or the glamour component, like Williams x2, Serbia x2, or Sharapova, but they both have had enough written about them in most sports pages in most tennis playing countries that they will continue to draw spectators.

OsloErik
Oct 27th, 2008, 05:38 AM
Only 2, and that's off of clay to be exact, ;)

Really? I think that if Sharapova and Ivanovic both played matches at identical arenas at the same time in Rome, or Charleston, or maybe even Paris, Sharapova would draw the bigger crowd. Ivanovic might equal or surpass her at the French Open, but I think when the average person considers going to the Rome event or the Berlin event, they don't think in their heads "Oh, Ivanovic is superior on clay, let's see her". They go to see the person whose name they recognize. And in general, that's Sharapova. Paris is a toss-up, but virtually everywhere else, Sharapova is going to draw a markedly larger crowd regardless of the surface.

It's lousy that it's true, but a large number of people watch women's tennis with very little interest in tennis whatsoever.

StephenUK
Oct 27th, 2008, 12:44 PM
'The William Sisters' are household names. From personal experience, I know that not many people know which sister is which and constantly need reminding (which is backed up by the fact you included both sisters as 1 in your comment below ;)). Plus i think you underestimate the power of some tabloid newspapers. 10 million people see pics ana and maria bending over, and they also see andy murray platstered all over the back pages. Serena and venus usually share a small collum space in the back - further proving my point.



Who said that I was spokesperson for wimbledon? :confused: This is my opinion and just because you think otherwise, it doesn't mean that i am wrong and vis verca.

And if your going to include robson in this (which i didnt because i thought we were only including top players) why isnt she number 1? More people watched her final than the 'All william sister final'.


I wanted to comment on this section.

I think E Dawson does make some valid points. The British press and the BBC did build up Ana Ivanovic this year and she received far more TV coverage of her matches this year than in previous Wimbledons. Having said that, her poor performances were a big let down and I bet that she won't get such a big build-up next year and I think she will be bumped on to Number 2 court for most of her matches. So I think Ana's stock has fallen with her dreadful performances at Wimbledon and the US Open where she will certainly not have won many new fans! My mother, for one, was totally unimpressed!

This question of the public being bored of the Williams sisters. The problem with the women's tournament at Wimbledon this year was that as most of their major rivals fell easily by the wayside, the all-Williams final was a foregone conclusion and the media and TV interest in the women's event evaporated. Once Andy Murray lost in the men's singles, the media focus moved not to the sisters but to Laura Robson, who upstaged the sisters with her junior final. For whatever reason, the all-Williams final did have a 'so-what' atmosphere about it - there was nothing new or particularly exciting to catch the imagination - the reverse is true of the huge buzz around Laura Robson. So although the sisters' final was one of their best in a slam, most British people will remember Wimbledon 2008 for the amazing Nadal-Federer final and for Laura Robson.

Re media coverage, I would say that the British media give proportionately far more focus to Laura Robson than the Williams given the disparity in their rankings and number of tournaments played, as they have sent media to her last three events, two ITFs and a Tier III! It reminds me in fact of when Venus Williams was first coming up, and cameras were rolling at her qualifying matches at Eastbourne!

doni1212
Oct 27th, 2008, 01:50 PM
Really? I think that if Sharapova and Ivanovic both played matches at identical arenas at the same time in Rome, or Charleston, or maybe even Paris, Sharapova would draw the bigger crowd. Ivanovic might equal or surpass her at the French Open, but I think when the average person considers going to the Rome event or the Berlin event, they don't think in their heads "Oh, Ivanovic is superior on clay, let's see her". They go to see the person whose name they recognize. And in general, that's Sharapova. Paris is a toss-up, but virtually everywhere else, Sharapova is going to draw a markedly larger crowd regardless of the surface.

It's lousy that it's true, but a large number of people watch women's tennis with very little interest in tennis whatsoever.

Oh, I didn't know you were talking about who brings the biggest crowds. I thought you were talking about tennis accomplishments.

Cp6uja
Oct 27th, 2008, 02:11 PM
...Beside the winner of the tournament organizer Peter-Michael Reichel and tournament manager Sandra Reichel also pulled a positive balance more than 18. Generali Ladies edition. " The tournament was sporty this year and economically a full success. Besides, we have reached with just 30,000 spectators again the record brand from the year 2006 when Maria Scharapowa has won the tournament. Any more is not possible in Linz ", explained Peter-Michael Reichel...


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Translations from www.krone.at today's article (http://www.krone.at/krone/S30/object_id__119491/hxcms/index.html)
In Europe (generally of course, not for every country) and Australia Ana Ivanovic is for casual public already similar level of media/public attraction like Maria or Serena, but in rest of world she is still not so close to this two, especially in America. Also Ana very improve her asian popularity this season after big deal with Yonex and two self-promotional Beijing campaigns - she not compete at OG, but she coming to Beijing Olympics like biggest female sports star (with almost "Hollywood Star" status), and news and pictures about her Beijing aeroport arrival have more attention and publicity than many of 2008 Olympics "small sports" finals :tape:.

So Ana is 3rd place contender here (together with Venus Williams), not 4th (together with Jelena Jankovic) like many posters wrongly notice.

QUEENLINDSAY
Oct 27th, 2008, 03:39 PM
I'd put Davenport over Ivanovic. The European and Australian crowds love Lindsay.

In the US, Lindsay is the darling for the CROWDS. (TV ratings, the Sisters do better, but Lindsay always sells out, too, just not on TV.)

But obviously,

Serena
Maria
Venus.

Venus is below Maria only because she is so humble and elegant. Maria and Serena are more fiery and more intense. More of a show.
I cant agree more.
Though I would put Maria over Serena. Just because of the male crowd.

QUEENLINDSAY
Oct 27th, 2008, 03:53 PM
Honestly? No one matches the crowd drawing power of Anna Kournikova.
Of the active players, Maria is on top of my list followed closely by Williams. If you combine Serena and Venus power , ofcourse I would put them on top above Maria but the thing is, Most casual fans dont even know who is Venus and who is Serena when they see them. Some of them even thought that Venus won more Granslam than Serena. In short, its very shallow crowd drawing power. Same with Maria, most male crowds just go there to see her booty.
On the other hand, Lindsay is being sought exhibitions after exhibitions because people likes her for her tennis and nothing else. Same with Justine Henin- people wants to see her for tennis and nothing else. ANd I valued this more than the crazy media hype/circus.
As for the Serbs, I dont think they already break in the superstar status yet, even if they achived that high ranking already. People dont even know what country they came from.