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DragonFlame
Oct 25th, 2008, 12:10 AM
So now that we know the candidates and the seedings are pretty much finalised. (i think i calculated right and no one can go into an other range anymore, only within their own range. 1/2, 3/4, 5/6, 7/8 ) (I take seedings are based on rankings and NOT race) Vera can still pass venus in seeding but for comfort i seeded venus #7 and vera #8

#1. Group 1. J. Jankovic(1) S. Williams(3) E. Dementieva(5) V. Williams(7)
- Group 2. D. Safina(2) A. Ivanovic(4) S. Kuznetsova(6) V. Zvonareva(8)

#2. Group 1. J. Jankovic(1) S. Williams(3) E. Dementieva(5) V. Zvonareva(8)
- Group 2. D. Safina(2) A. Ivanovic(4) S. Kuznetsova(6) V. Williams(7)

#3 Group 1. J. Jankovic(1) S. Williams(3) S. Kuznetsova(6) V. Williams(7)
- Group 2. D. Safina(2) A. Ivanovic(4) E. Dementieva(5) V. Zvonareva(8)

#4 Group 1. J. Jankovic(1) S. Williams(3) S. Kuznetsova(6) V. Zvonareva(8)
- Group 2. D. Safina(2) A. Ivanovic(4) E. Dementieva(5) V. Williams(7)

#5 Group 1. J. Jankovic(1) A. Ivanovic(4) E. Dementieva(5) V. Williams(7)
- Group 2. D. Safina(2) S. Williams(3) S. Kuznetsova(6) V. Zvonareva(8)

#6 Group 1. J. Jankovic(1) A. Ivanovic(4) E. Dementieva(5) V. Zvonareva(8)
- Group 2. D. Safina(2) S. Williams(3) S. Kuznetsova(6) V. Williams(7)

#7 Group 1. J. Jankovic(1) A. Ivanovic(4) S. Kuznetsova(6) V. Williams(7)
- Group 2. D. Safina(2) S. Williams(3) E. Dementieva(5) V. Zvonareva(8)

#8 Group 1. J. Jankovic(1) A. Ivanovic(4) S. Kuznetsova(6) V. Zvonareva(8)
- Group 2. D. Safina(2) S. Williams(3) E. Dementieva(5) V. Williams(7)

i INTENTIONALLY didn't put all the names in the poll because i want people to READ before they vote;)


So, which will be the groups???:bounce:

Harvs
Oct 25th, 2008, 12:13 AM
i want group 2:)

with jelena and serena progressing
and venus, ana or dinara progressing:)

Uranium
Oct 25th, 2008, 12:15 AM
Group #4 or #2.

LudwigDvorak
Oct 25th, 2008, 12:19 AM
#3. Venus and Serena will be in the same group while playing secondary GOAT JJ.

DragonFlame
Oct 25th, 2008, 12:24 AM
Scenario #1 would be group of death scenario:help: And i don't want elena to be in there:tape:

Scenario #3 i'm fine with though:p

goldenlox
Oct 25th, 2008, 12:50 AM
They all look good. Only Sharapova is missing among slam winners Olympic medalists and the YE #1

doni1212
Oct 25th, 2008, 12:54 AM
Scenario 8.
They are going to put Venus and Serena together along with Dinara and Elena.
They're going to try and save their "Number 1" player, :rolleyes:, by putting her in the section with Kuznetsova and Zvonareva.

Cp6uja
Oct 25th, 2008, 01:20 AM
Which YEC Group Scenario will it be? Poll question is wrong because all 8 scenarios have same chances to be choosen (1 out of 8)... so Poll question should be for example Which YEC Group Scenario you want to see in Doha?


My opinion is that out of all 8 scenarios best option (by far) will be #2 or/and #4 scenario because Sisters is in opposite groups, Serbs is in opposite groups and Russians is divided by 2-2 formula (not 3-1).

Ryan
Oct 25th, 2008, 01:30 AM
Scenario 8.
They are going to put Venus and Serena together along with Dinara and Elena.
They're going to try and save their "Number 1" player, :rolleyes:, by putting her in the section with Kuznetsova and Zvonareva.



You DO realize the groups aren't random, or selected by anyone. It's determined by rankings.

Martian KC
Oct 25th, 2008, 01:36 AM
#6

alwayshingis
Oct 25th, 2008, 02:04 AM
#5 would be the best.

Spartan
Oct 25th, 2008, 02:23 AM
Scenario 3 please :) Best draw for my faves Sveta and Lena.
I think Kuzzy has a better shot against Venus/Serena and also JJ but really I just want her away from Safina and Ivanovic :tape:
It's also good for Lena cause she has a good record against Ivanovic and Zvonareva and has at least beaten Safina this year. :yeah:

Mikey B
Oct 25th, 2008, 02:26 AM
i think groups are irrelevant, i see a jj vs dinara final here...

Ben.
Oct 25th, 2008, 02:30 AM
Scenario #2 or #4. Preferably Scenario #4 as most of those girls are Vee's bitches :devil: sorry Ana :hug:

doni1212
Oct 25th, 2008, 03:01 AM
You DO realize the groups aren't random, or selected by anyone. It's determined by rankings.

The seedings are, but not the groups themselves, :rolleyes:

DragonFlame
Oct 25th, 2008, 03:23 AM
So people think scenario 3, i don't mind that:p All hell will break loose here on Wtaworld if scenario #1 happens;)

Renalicious
Oct 25th, 2008, 03:38 AM
Scenario 2!

Serena can stop Jelena and gain revenge from Ana and then keep her good record over Vera and plus Venus is on the other side so no early meeting here. :D

Golovinjured.
Oct 25th, 2008, 03:50 AM
Which YEC Group Scenario will it be? Poll question is wrong because all 8 scenarios have same chances to be choosen (1 out of 8)... so Poll question should be for example Which YEC Group Scenario you want to see in Doha?


My opinion is that out of all 8 scenarios best option (by far) will be #2 or/and #4 scenario because Sisters is in opposite groups, Serbs is in opposite groups and Russians is divided by 2-2 formula (not 3-1).

:haha:

Can't you do anything right, DragonFlame :rolleyes: :lol:

I want scenario #3, with Rena not progressing.

enchantrezz
Oct 25th, 2008, 03:56 AM
I go for 1,3,5,7 / 2,4,6,8....so thats Scenario 1.

fufuqifuqishahah
Oct 25th, 2008, 04:07 AM
I can't believe so many people voting for 3! That would be the worst.

I would prefer 4, 6, or 7. :D

InsideOut.
Oct 25th, 2008, 04:45 AM
I want group 8! :) But my gut feeling is that it will be group 5...

InsideOut.
Oct 25th, 2008, 04:52 AM
Scenario 2!

Serena can stop Jelena and gain revenge from Ana and then keep her good record over Vera and plus Venus is on the other side so no early meeting here. :D

revenge from Ana? What did Ana do to Serena? :confused:

MarieC
Oct 25th, 2008, 05:10 AM
Out of those scenarios I like #2

doni1212
Oct 25th, 2008, 05:11 AM
revenge from Ana? What did Ana do to Serena? :confused:

Maybe from Ana beating Venus? :shrug:
I don't know, lol. I hope Ana and Venus are in one section and Serena in the other, that's all I want. I think, lol.

northern lad
Oct 25th, 2008, 06:30 AM
#3... with both WS withdrawing. Serena replaced by Radwanska, Venus replaced by Pennetta.

group 1
Jankovic 2-1 (def AR, SK. lost FP)
Radwanska 0-3
Kuznetsova 1-2 (def AR, lost JJ, FP)
Pennetta 3-0

group 2
Safina 1-2 (def AI, lost ED, VZ)
Ivanovic 1-2 (def VZ, lost DS, ED)
Dementieva 2-1 (def DS, AI. lost VZ)
Zvonareva 2-1 (def DS, ED. lost AI)


SF
[A] Pennetta def [8] Zvonareva 6-4 7-6

[1] Jankovic def [5] Dementieva 3-6 7-6 6-2

F
[1] Jankovic def [A] Pennetta 6-0 6-7 7-6


:devil:

kwilliams
Oct 25th, 2008, 07:25 AM
I hope for scenario 2 or 4.

I have a question though. The 'seedings' are determined by the regular rankings, right? So after Linz Venus will be ranked 9th and Vera 8th (I think) so Venus will be the 8th seed and Vera the 7th, right? I know this doesn't change the scenarios, just the number beside their names.

SoClose
Oct 25th, 2008, 08:04 AM
#7 Plz :)

Chance
Oct 25th, 2008, 08:28 AM
I hope for scenario 2 or 4.

I have a question though. The 'seedings' are determined by the regular rankings, right? So after Linz Venus will be ranked 9th and Vera 8th (I think) so Venus will be the 8th seed and Vera the 7th, right? I know this doesn't change the scenarios, just the number beside their names.

So does that mean Sharapova could be seeded 9th at the AO??

tennnisfannn
Oct 25th, 2008, 08:33 AM
You can bet yout bottom dollar on venus, serena and JJ being in one group

MaBaker
Oct 25th, 2008, 08:37 AM
#2. Group 1. J. Jankovic(1) S. Williams(3) E. Dementieva(5) V. Zvonareva(8)
- Group 2. D. Safina(2) A. Ivanovic(4) S. Kuznetsova(6) V. Williams

SF : Jelena-Venus, Serena-Safina

Ben.
Oct 25th, 2008, 08:41 AM
I hope for scenario 2 or 4.

I have a question though. The 'seedings' are determined by the regular rankings, right? So after Linz Venus will be ranked 9th and Vera 8th (I think) so Venus will be the 8th seed and Vera the 7th, right? I know this doesn't change the scenarios, just the number beside their names.

seedings are determined by regular rankings, not the race rankings.

Bartosh
Oct 25th, 2008, 09:28 AM
#4 :drool: but I think it will be #1 scenario :tape:

Michael!
Oct 25th, 2008, 09:31 AM
Venus and Jankovic are in one group for sure :ras: :tape:
The worst case for Venus would be a group with Serena and Jelena :scared:

Tennisation
Oct 25th, 2008, 09:39 AM
I don't care, please just keep JJ away from Venus:tape:

babuska6
Oct 25th, 2008, 10:27 AM
I have the feeling that it will be Scenario 3. Sisters Williams in a same group,but the semifinalist will be JJ and Serena..And in group 2 Ivanovic and Zvonareva will go through.

tejmeglekvár
Oct 25th, 2008, 10:37 AM
#5

Cp6uja
Oct 25th, 2008, 10:59 AM
Here is my SF predictions (by Round Robin groups draw scenarios):


#1 Scenario: JJ SW ED VW - - DS AI SK VZ
#2 Scenario: JJ SW ED VZ - - DS AI SK VW
#3 Scenario: JJ SW SK VW - - DS AI ED VZ
#4 Scenario: JJ SW SK VZ - - DS AI ED VW
#5 Scenario: JJ AI ED VW - - DS SW SK VZ
#6 Scenario: JJ AI ED VZ - - DS SW SK VW
#7 Scenario: JJ AI SK VW - - DS SW ED VZ
#8 Scenario: JJ AI SK VZ - - DS SW ED VW

Demska
Oct 25th, 2008, 11:28 AM
#3

frenchie
Oct 25th, 2008, 11:33 AM
I just want Venus and Serena in separate groups
and in separate SF!

terjw
Oct 25th, 2008, 11:35 AM
Here is my SF predictions (by Round Robin groups draw scenarios):


#1 Scenario: JJ SW ED VW - - DS AI SK VZ
#2 Scenario: JJ SW ED VZ - - DS AI SK VW
#3 Scenario: JJ SW SK VW - - DS AI ED VZ
#4 Scenario: JJ SW SK VZ - - DS AI ED VW
#5 Scenario: JJ AI ED VW - - DS SW SK VZ
#6 Scenario: JJ AI ED VZ - - DS SW SK VW
#7 Scenario: JJ AI SK VW - - DS SW ED VZ
#8 Scenario: JJ AI SK VZ - - DS SW ED VW

Hmm - interesting what you think if Jelena and Venus are in group 1:

If Serena is also in that group - you reckon Venus and not Jelena will make it through.
If instead Ana is in that group - you reckon Jelena and not Venus will make it through.Is there a reason you think that or is it a hunch. I mean logically Venus is more likely to pick up a win against Ana than Serena - so I'd have thought Venus would prefer Ana to Serena in the group.

Ballbasher
Oct 25th, 2008, 11:43 AM
Sveta is in bad form and the rest of my favs haven't qualified :( I just hope Sveta has a decent draw and the WS are in one group so they can meet in the final :p

terjw
Oct 25th, 2008, 11:47 AM
My preference is #2 or #6 although any of the players could give Jelena a hard time. But:

Between AI and SW: Both are the toughest for Jelena. True she has a worse record against Ana - but sooner or later she's going to have to beat her so why not here when even if she loses she could get through.
.
Between SK and ED: Don't really mind but she's done better against Lena - beating her at her home tournament. Although either could upset her.
.
Between VW and VZ: Although Jelena has a great winning record against Venus - you just obviously don't want to have to beat Venus to qualify if you have a choice.

lilimi
Oct 25th, 2008, 12:23 PM
#2. Group 1. J. Jankovic(1) S. Williams(3) E. Dementieva(5) V. Zvonareva(8)
- Group 2. D. Safina(2) A. Ivanovic(4) S. Kuznetsova(6) V. Williams

SF : Jelena-Venus, Serena-Safina
you're so sure dinara would come out of her group...she has poor h2h against Ana and venus. While Ana has good results against sveta and dina, and she almost beat venus in zurich....
i vote n° 3, ana and dina have more chances to go to semi finals.
n°5 is not bad...

Renalicious
Oct 25th, 2008, 03:51 PM
^ The rankings is not about RACE...they will use normal rankings...

Anyway I change my mind I want Scenario 1 or Scenario 8.

Venus and Serena in the same group, so they can meet in the final.
Serena avenges her losses to Dementieva.
Serena beats either Jelena or Dinara (the two players above her in the ranks).

LCS
Oct 25th, 2008, 04:36 PM
As long as Elena kicks ass. :angel:

Dexter
Oct 25th, 2008, 04:48 PM
I'd die for the 8th scenario.

Miss Amor
Oct 25th, 2008, 04:51 PM
Scenario 4 please :hearts:

With Serena and Bepa from the first group and Venus and Dinara from the second advancing to the semifinals

jonnyroyale_13
Oct 25th, 2008, 04:58 PM
I want number 6, and this order of play:
RR1-Ivanovic-Zvonareva
RR2-Ivanovic-Dementieva
RR3-Ivanovic-Jankovic

Mashafaaaaan
Oct 25th, 2008, 04:58 PM
Just don't want to see Venus and Serena together:rolleyes:

vw.
Oct 25th, 2008, 05:00 PM
#4 Pleaaaase.

kaktusino
Oct 25th, 2008, 05:03 PM
#3 :hearts:

cn ireland
Oct 25th, 2008, 05:57 PM
Scenario #8:

JJ, Ivanovic, Serena and Venus progressing to the SF:)!

Beny
Oct 25th, 2008, 07:03 PM
Number 6 with Coke,please :shrug:

but I'd like to see Elena beat Serena for the third time in a row now, so I want a group with Lena and Serena but not Venus :p

améliemomo
Oct 25th, 2008, 07:07 PM
dont care that much but I think the 5th is the best

Roookie
Oct 25th, 2008, 08:23 PM
#5. No way the Williams Sisters should be in the same group.

Borislove
Oct 25th, 2008, 08:31 PM
I like the 4th

Slutiana
Oct 25th, 2008, 08:47 PM
I like 4. Yeah, definatly. That way theres the Serbian Sister and WS progressing.

ivanban
Oct 25th, 2008, 09:07 PM
I would like scenario #7 :drool:

cartmancop
Oct 25th, 2008, 09:53 PM
I like #4, but anything where Venus and Serena are in opposite sides is preferible for me...

-NAJ-
Oct 26th, 2008, 02:34 AM
When will draw for the groups be out???

DragonFlame
Oct 26th, 2008, 06:37 AM
When will draw for the groups be out???

You'll have to wait at least for another week. I think it was next saturday.. Dunno for sure, could be the monday after that as well.

-NAJ-
Oct 26th, 2008, 10:42 PM
thanks "DragonFlame"

Richie's
Oct 27th, 2008, 12:02 AM
i think Kuznetsova and Dementieva (maybe Zvonareva) will not have a win match this year too!!!

delicatecutter
Oct 27th, 2008, 12:06 AM
REALLY hoping for Scenario #1!! :hearts:

Buitenzorg
Oct 27th, 2008, 12:09 AM
I voted #4 ;)

patch.
Oct 27th, 2008, 12:10 AM
#6 hopefully. if not #3.

peanuts
Oct 27th, 2008, 06:46 AM
#8 please. That's my dream draw for Ana. :lol:

-NAJ-
Oct 27th, 2008, 11:50 AM
#8 is good for Ana in RR (Jelena, Sveta, Vera)but in SF will have Venus, Serena, Dinara or Elena.
i think that option is not so good for Ana because goal is win SF match and then to win in final .

serenus_2k8
Oct 27th, 2008, 12:14 PM
I think its best if they split:

WS, whenever both are playing well they meet as early as possible, ie in the USO.
Serbs just because its more interesting that way if both have chance at SF.
Elena and Dinara because both can be very dangerous but its unsure if they will play well at YEC.
Vera and Sveta because neither are expected to do very well, though I can see Sveta playing well this year.