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Rik.
Nov 7th, 2008, 04:30 PM
I think there is no winner in my match, and we don't have win on ranking here I think.

Willam
Nov 7th, 2008, 04:59 PM
who says?

Those are the rules in TT and it dosn't change because this is yec.

If you want leoneo can win because he won 3-0 in RR and you 2-1 :shrug:

Rui.
Nov 7th, 2008, 05:54 PM
Use CB Jero...it's better to judge on the players performances than on ranks...though it would be the same for Milan and Chris...

Willam
Nov 7th, 2008, 06:26 PM
i did that first but CB is the same.

reply to my pm.

Rui.
Nov 7th, 2008, 06:32 PM
It's only the same in one match and Rik went 2-1 and Leoneo 3-0 so IMO Leoneo should win...

FiBeR
Nov 7th, 2008, 06:45 PM
isnt wtaw looking "forward" in picks? shouldnt we both send for the final day and then the ones who win in the final day among us play against the other team?

Hotzenplotz
Nov 7th, 2008, 06:55 PM
isnt wtaw looking "forward" in picks? shouldnt we both send for the final day and then the ones who win in the final day among us play against the other team?

is this still the case or was it changed? :confused:

FiBeR
Nov 7th, 2008, 07:09 PM
Use CB Jero...it's better to judge on the players performances than on ranks...though it would be the same for Milan and Chris...

well..as far as i remember the policy throughtout the whole year was "look forward, not backwards"

i had a tied SF and then untied with my rival in the F with the F picks..the best between us won and faced the other player from the other side of the draw

when was this particularly "changed" and introduced CB concept? cos really i dont recall anything like this changing specifically since then... or clearly written down explaining how it worked and when was it changed..


IMO CB is always best than this, but this is the current "rules/usage" of WTAw TT.. and, I see no harm in us asking to do what we (tt community) have been doing throughtout the year.. if you , board members, want to change to CB using..you should do it next year, not in the middle of..the most impoprtant tournament of the year, dont u think? of course christian and i are getting advantage of it..but, it is also fair since this is how it has been working.. :shrug:

Chris 84
Nov 7th, 2008, 07:12 PM
It hasn't been changed. We have always used CB. Its just in first round matches that we "look forward" as there is no way of doing a CB.

We have never used ranking to determine a winner, though, so i would suggest that all 4 singles semi-finalists should send picks for tomorrow with the "best" 2 tippers reaching the final. In doubles, however, we have winners in each tie.

Obviously I could be seen as biased in the case of the doubles, but clearly Rui agrees with me. Other board members can give their opinions if they want, but CB is indeed used where necessary and possible.

Rui.
Nov 7th, 2008, 07:20 PM
It hasn't been changed. We have always used CB. Its just in first round matches that we "look forward" as there is no way of doing a CB.

We have never used ranking to determine a winner, though, so i would suggest that all 4 singles semi-finalists should send picks for tomorrow with the "best" 2 tippers reaching the final. In doubles, however, we have winners in each tie.

Obviously I could be seen as biased in the case of the doubles, but clearly Rui agrees with me. Other board members can give their opinions if they want, but CB is indeed used where necessary and possible.

Meelis agrees with me...:shrug:

Willam
Nov 7th, 2008, 07:29 PM
nvm

Willam
Nov 7th, 2008, 07:37 PM
all in page 1.

I would like to have a feedback as my work as manager so far please, it's nice to know what u like and what you don't.

Willam
Nov 7th, 2008, 07:46 PM
Saturday OOP

1. Elena Dementieva vs. Vera Zvonareva TB3 SR3
2. Venus Williams vs. Jelena Jankovic TB2 SR2

All Picks to TZAR.

Play starts 3:30PM Cet.
Play Starts 5:30PM Doha.

ALYOUNA
Nov 7th, 2008, 11:04 PM
I don't know why I lost.Jero or anyone please expain to me.
CB,I think CB is to compare Thursday match,not all nine match.
Or we can use this day 2 match to compare SF,next day 1 match compare F.
OR we can use next 3 match ,compare SF and F.One day 2 round.

this is YEC,not ITF,TIER IV,III,II,I.

Willam
Nov 7th, 2008, 11:57 PM
Ok I'll explain to you. CB it's the previous round, dosn't matter how many it lasted.

It dosn't matter if this is yec or not. Let's say you're playing a tournament F and you have to decide it by comeback, so you go to SFs and they lasted 2 days. You take points of the whole round, not only of the previous day. and RR was a complete round itself.

Now, also i'm not sure about this because rules change here and in mtf so it's a bit confusing but i think CB its of the whole tournament here or mtf not sure, so it would be pretty much the same thing.

Sorry Hotel. :shrug:

ALYOUNA
Nov 8th, 2008, 05:23 AM
It hasn't been changed. We have always used CB. Its just in first round matches that we "look forward" as there is no way of doing a CB.

We have never used ranking to determine a winner, though, so i would suggest that all 4 singles semi-finalists should send picks for tomorrow with the "best" 2 tippers reaching the final. In doubles, however, we have winners in each tie.

Obviously I could be seen as biased in the case of the doubles, but clearly Rui agrees with me. Other board members can give their opinions if they want, but CB is indeed used where necessary and possible.
I agree with red part:)
CB is the previous day 3 matches,I think.Because every day match is equal to a round.

ALYOUNA
Nov 8th, 2008, 05:39 AM
Meelis agrees with me...:shrug:

Meelis certainly agree,but I don't agree.

In The Zone
Nov 8th, 2008, 06:22 AM
I agree with red part:)
CB is the previous day 3 matches,I think.Because every day match is equal to a round.

Wow, clever argument. I agree with hotel.

Willam
Nov 8th, 2008, 10:02 AM
If we do it for singles we would have to do it for doubles too :rolleyes:

Everyone deserves the same chance :rolleyes:

I will do it because chris said so but IF Leoneo who havent send yet, fails to send in time, i'mm not doing this becaause by the RULES he won already, so he dosn't deserve to lose.

I have to say i'm 100% disagree with this, but i don't think people care about the manager opinion anyways :rolleyes: :sad:

denijs
Nov 8th, 2008, 10:19 AM
It dosn't matter if this is yec or not. Let's say you're playing a tournament F and you have to decide it by comeback, so you go to SFs and they lasted 2 days. You take points of the whole round, not only of the previous day. and RR was a complete round itself.

For me that's definately how it should be decided here, there's no such things as "looking forawrd" except for when we don't have previous scores from the players.

It should be a normal CB, with counting all the points from previous days :wavey: For me it's the thing that makes rules most in this case...

Rik.
Nov 8th, 2008, 10:26 AM
How can I lose when there aren't even rules about?:confused:

Rik.
Nov 8th, 2008, 10:34 AM
It's only the same in one match and Rik went 2-1 and Leoneo 3-0 so IMO Leoneo should win...

but CB is 7-7 :rolleyes:

so we should both play final against meelis, the one with the best picks on day1 plays futher in the final. That's how it should be done. :shrug:

Jero, I sent picks ;)

Rui.
Nov 8th, 2008, 10:36 AM
but CB is 7-7 :rolleyes:

so we should both play final against meelis, the one with the best picks on day1 plays futher in the final. That's how it should be done. :shrug:

Jero, I sent ;)

That's why i told them to see who won more matches and that person was Leoneo.

Rik.
Nov 8th, 2008, 10:40 AM
That's why i told them to see who won more matches and that person was Leoneo.

and where is that rule? :wavey:

Willam
Nov 8th, 2008, 10:51 AM
if i find the ranking rule in the TT Rules thread this conversation is over and leoneo goes to the final, don't care if you find it fair or not.

Rik.
Nov 8th, 2008, 10:56 AM
where do you find it? :p

Willam
Nov 8th, 2008, 10:58 AM
nowhere :p.

but as i said i'm not giving you a w/o if leoneo dosnt send. he should win cuz he was 3-0 and you 2-1, and u know it rik :p

Chris 84
Nov 8th, 2008, 11:27 AM
I agree with red part:)
CB is the previous day 3 matches,I think.Because every day match is equal to a round.

I said that because Jeronimo sent a PM saying that both singles matches were decided by ranking. I now see that Meelis v You was decided by CB rather than by ranking, and in my opinion CB is the whole round robin phase, rather than the day3 matches, therefore Meelis wins :p

Rik.
Nov 8th, 2008, 11:31 AM
nowhere :p.

but as i said i'm not giving you a w/o if leoneo dosnt send. he should win cuz he was 3-0 and you 2-1, and u know it rik :p

that's no rule, you only look the the points we scored as CB, and that's the same, so the match has no winner. ;)

Rik.
Nov 8th, 2008, 11:32 AM
you want to have a winner, and that's why you choose leoneo, as it would be fair if he wins
but if look at the rules you see there's no winner at this match

ALYOUNA
Nov 8th, 2008, 11:34 AM
Ok .I hope TT will be more popular in future.
And I consider if I will go on playing here.= =

ALYOUNA
Nov 8th, 2008, 11:35 AM
leoneo will send later,so please don't worry.= =

Willam
Nov 8th, 2008, 11:42 AM
well rik what rule says i should count your picks for today?

and hotel thats a bit too much drama "considering if you will keep playing"

Rik.
Nov 8th, 2008, 11:44 AM
well rik what rule says i should count your picks for today?

and hotel thats a bit too much drama "considering if you will keep playing"

In the past it happened before that you both play the day after when there is not winner.
And in the SF match between my and Leoneo there is no winner, so this should happen.

ALYOUNA
Nov 8th, 2008, 11:55 AM
well rik what rule says i should count your picks for today?

and hotel thats a bit too much drama "considering if you will keep playing"haha,I didn't say the words to you.so you needs to be cleverer in future:cool:

Willam
Nov 8th, 2008, 12:16 PM
In the past it happened before that you both play the day after when there is not winner.
And in the SF match between my and Leoneo there is no winner, so this should happen.

i will ask again, is any rule that states that this should be done?

Willam
Nov 8th, 2008, 12:21 PM
haha,I didn't say the words to you.so you needs to be cleverer in future:cool:

to whoever you said its still dramatic.

and you just invented a new word :)

Rik.
Nov 8th, 2008, 12:24 PM
i will ask again, is any rule that states that this should be done?

is there any rule that there is a winner? :wavey:
No

SO this should be done ;)

Willam
Nov 8th, 2008, 12:36 PM
why should be done, tell me what rules states that ;)

tell me why not counting who won more matches in their group and qualified first, or why not ranking?

Rik.
Nov 8th, 2008, 01:11 PM
because there is no rule about ranking deciding

I just know when there is no winner that this (that you both play the day after when there is not winner) happens, I have had it 2 times against me, and now when I'm on the other side it doesn't happen :shrug:

Rik.
Nov 8th, 2008, 01:14 PM
http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=335145
post 4 in singles 2nd round for example

Willam
Nov 8th, 2008, 01:16 PM
i said im doing it but just for your match, once again im not agree.

Rik.
Nov 8th, 2008, 01:41 PM
what do you mean?

Willam
Nov 8th, 2008, 01:48 PM
Rik Vs. Leoneo SF.

Venus vs. Jelena.

Final Meelis vs. Rik

SRs.

Final Meelis vs. Leoneo

Venus vs. Jankovic

Chris84/SloKid vs. FORZA PENNETTA/Smokovec

Williams vs. Jankovic

Willam
Nov 8th, 2008, 01:48 PM
i'm counting for SFs today matches but im not agree with it.

SloKid
Nov 8th, 2008, 06:42 PM
Was our difference +2 or +1? :p

Rik.
Nov 8th, 2008, 06:49 PM
and what are the SR diffs? :p

FORZA SARITA
Nov 8th, 2008, 07:07 PM
Was our difference +2 or +1? :p

+1 ;)

Rui.
Nov 8th, 2008, 07:14 PM
Was our difference +2 or +1? :p

Go you two!! Take the number 1 away from the arrogant In The Zone :p

Sorry DD :hug:

Willam
Nov 8th, 2008, 09:36 PM
OOP Sunday.

1. Zvonareva - Williams TB1 SR1

Picks to Me.

ALYOUNA
Nov 9th, 2008, 04:56 AM
Rik Vs. Leoneo SF.

Venus vs. Jelena.
Final Meelis vs. Rik

SRs.

Final Meelis vs. Leoneo

Venus vs. Jankovic

Chris84/SloKid vs. FORZA PENNETTA/Smokovec

Williams vs. Jankovicwhat does this mean?LEONEO 3-0 RIK 2-1 all 7PTS and the last RR day,only leoneo choose VENUS and he is 3PTS ,Rik 2PTS .

I want to say to the PAW BOARD ,this is world game,not Europe Game.:rolleyes:

ALYOUNA
Nov 9th, 2008, 04:59 AM
Rik is so Special ,but I am not special.why?

Rui.
Nov 9th, 2008, 10:54 AM
Hotel, Jeronimo only made them send again for the final because their TOURNAMENT Countback was exactly the same ;)

It's not a question of being special or not ;)

Adrian.
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:08 AM
Can someone post how many points everyone will get?
Would help me for making new ranks faster;):rocker2:
:wavey:

ALYOUNA
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:14 AM
RIK said he is 7PTS.
I said every day match is equal to a round.
you can allow RIK's Viewpoint,but not allow mine.
I sugest Rik and I both have our viepoints,so I hope we 4 guys compare SF and F matches.

Rui.
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:15 AM
0 wins - 105 points
1 win - 185 points
2 wins - 265 points
3 wins - 345
Finalist (with 2 RR wins) - 445
Finalist (with 3 RR wins) - 525
Winner (with 2 RR wins) - 670
Winner (with 3 RR wins) - 750

ALYOUNA
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:15 AM
RR is the first and lone stage.SF and F can also another stage.
RIK against,I also can against

Rui.
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:20 AM
RIK said he is 7PTS.
I said every day match is equal to a round.
you can allow RIK's Viewpoint,but not allow mine.
I sugest Rik and I both have our viepoints,so I hope we 4 guys compare SF and F matches.

we followed the CB method:

Meelis had more points during the 3 days than you had.
Rik and Leoneo had the same number of points during the 3 days so we told them to send again in order to untie things. Rik won after that.

If it had happened the same in your match we would have told you to send again too ;)

Adrian.
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:21 AM
Ok thanks Rui;)
Ranking update today evening?!?:shrug::lol:

Rui.
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:22 AM
Ok thanks Rui;)
Ranking update today evening?!?:shrug::lol:

Ok :p

ALYOUNA
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:23 AM
not Jero's mistakes because he asks your viewpoints

leoneo
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:23 AM
so what's the sr in yesterday?

ALYOUNA
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:25 AM
we followed the CB method:

Meelis had more points during the 3 days than you had.
Rik and Leoneo had the same number of points during the 3 days so we told them to send again in order to untie things. Rik won after that.

If it had happened the same in your match we would have told you to send again too ;)
Do you think it's fair??Yesterday you didn't allow Rik.And today all changes??

leoneo
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:30 AM
i just see this post, so is that means i lost in SF because i didn't send the pm again???

Rui.
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:35 AM
Do you think it's fair??Yesterday you didn't allow Rik.And today all changes??

This was all yesterday not today.

ALYOUNA
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:43 AM
why changes?? Why mine can't changes??I am too sad at TT board point.I am too busy after BERLIN,really have no time to argue.I am too tired

Rui.
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:43 AM
Let me explain what happened:

-WE used Countback for EVERYONE including Leoneo vs Rik.
-The CB untied every match except the Leoneo vs Rik one.
-As the CB didn't work for that match we had to untie it so we made both of them send again for yesterday and the winner of the match would play Meelis with the same picks+the final pick.


If you don't want to understand what happened i don't have the fault.

ALYOUNA
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:47 AM
I have understood already but I want to say why yesterday at the beginning you didn't allow Rik but in the end you allowed rik

Rui.
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:49 AM
I have understood already but I want to say why yesterday at the beginning you didn't allow Rik but in the end you allowed rik

Cause it was probably a group decision ;) I don't decide things alone.

ALYOUNA
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:51 AM
I have noting to say,really have no time to argue.But I think it's unfair all the time.

Willam
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:53 AM
Leoneo you lost because you picked Jankovic over Venus, not because you didn't sent because you did send.

ALYOUNA
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:54 AM
haha,I really never see at the beginning not allowed, in the end he is be allowed.But I never allowed


what a joke for you TT group

ALYOUNA
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:55 AM
one can allow,the other can't allow.
you should at the beginning ,we are all not allowed.

ALYOUNA
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:55 AM
How beautiful the joke is.

Willam
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:56 AM
I have noting to say,really have no time to argue.But I think it's unfair all the time.

Why is unfair? The rule states CB decides the winner therefore Meelis wins.

And that is all that concerns you. What happens or not with Leoneo/Rik match is none of your business and if it was you must get that there is no rule to untie a match like that.

Rules do not state Leoneo wins because he won all his matches of RR, but dosn't state neither they must sent again. So the board decided, what they thought was most fair.

However, this DO NOT concerns you. You lost fair and square and that's the way it is. By the rules.

Willam
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:57 AM
haha,I really never see at the beginning not allowed, in the end he is be allowed.But I never allowed


what a joke for you TT group

It's called Board, and if you're not happy well the fault is of the players for picking them as simple as it is :shrug:

leoneo
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:57 AM
Leoneo you lost because you picked Jankovic over Venus, not because you didn't sent because you did send.


so unfair :mad:

not to you, manager~~~

rik argue, so he/she can got a chance to change the result, so is the means now i argue , i can change this "2nd" results??????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????

Willam
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:58 AM
one can allow,the other can't allow.
you should at the beginning ,we are all not allowed.

I don't know Rui but i feel i'm taking to a wall :sobbing:

Willam
Nov 9th, 2008, 11:59 AM
so unfair :mad:

not to you, manager~~~

rik argue, so he/she can got a chance to change the result, so is the means now i argue , i can change this "2nd" results??????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????

Ok, i understand but just for the record, i was against it too as you may know.

I was not agree and i thoguht you had to go through for being 1st in your group with 3 victories, however that is not what the board decided.

ALYOUNA
Nov 9th, 2008, 12:00 PM
unfair forever,you said Rik's picks won't be counted and at last you count it,haha don't explain to me .It's only a joke that this is eroupean game

leoneo
Nov 9th, 2008, 12:01 PM
Cause it was probably a group decision ;) I don't decide things alone.

so plz tell me: group? where is the group? where is the Discussion to decide this "decision"?

ALYOUNA
Nov 9th, 2008, 12:02 PM
Jero,I know you didn't agree RIK .You are a kind person.
we only want to say our viewpoint

Rui.
Nov 9th, 2008, 12:02 PM
Ok, i understand but just for the record, i was against it too as you may know.

I was not agree and i thoguht you had to go through for being 1st in your group with 3 victories, however that is not what the board decided.

That was my opinion and you said the rule didn't exist.

And Hotel i'm sick of this discussion. even if we followed the first rule you'd lose anyway.

Willam
Nov 9th, 2008, 12:04 PM
unfair forever,you said Rik's picks won't be counted and at last you count it,haha don't explain to me .It's only a joke that this is eroupean game

Stick to the facts, I'm not european. :p

And i counted them because the board said so. Not me :awww:

Chris 84
Nov 9th, 2008, 12:05 PM
so unfair :mad:

not to you, manager~~~

rik argue, so he/she can got a chance to change the result, so is the means now i argue , i can change this "2nd" results??????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????

It isn't to do with complaining.
You had an equal score, srs and TB with Meelis and then you lost on countback.
Rik had an equal score, srs, TB and an equal countback, therefore countback couldn't decide his match, so there had to be another tb method. We have used the method of sending picks for the next day in the past, and that's what we did again.

Rui.
Nov 9th, 2008, 12:05 PM
I won't keep discussing this matter. It was decided they'd send again, one won the other lost.

ALYOUNA
Nov 9th, 2008, 12:09 PM
and leoneo should win because he did better than Rik in RR.
and Jero,not your mistakes.we all know.

I have sth to do and go away,I will never argue with you again

Rui.
Nov 9th, 2008, 12:11 PM
They had the same number of picks correct.

Willam
Nov 9th, 2008, 12:13 PM
and leoneo should win because he did better than Rik in RR.
and Jero,not your mistakes.we all know.

I have sth to do and go away,I will never argue with you again

I'm agree as i said before however hotel this is what the board decided therefore let's look just forward because i don't know if something can be done know. I understand your point however there is nothing we can do. :shrug:

ALYOUNA
Nov 9th, 2008, 12:14 PM
my last words here
why leoneo win 3 lose 0 ,but rik win 2 lose 1.
why lenneo choose Venus on Thursday ,and rik didn't

leoneo
Nov 9th, 2008, 12:33 PM
if there is no winner in the SF, a person who wins 3-0 in RR lost a person wins 2-1 in RR? why?

deciding SF winner by next day match? i couldn't understand~~~ if a person had a worse results , why he/she had a chance to play again? and use the furture results decide past results?

and if someone can says "there is no rules to decide winner by Ranking" , so does anybody can tell me where is the rules that "using the method of sending picks for the next day"

Adrian.
Nov 9th, 2008, 01:23 PM
Final

Matches Counted: 00
Matches Remaining: 01

00:00| [7]Leoneo (CHN) vs. [3]Meelis (EST)

Final

Matches Counted: 00
Matches Remaining: 01

00:00| [1]Chris84/SloKid (SCO/SLO) vs. [8]FORZA PENNETTA/Smokovec (ITA)

Adrian.
Nov 9th, 2008, 01:23 PM
Is this right?:shrug:

Petkorazzi
Nov 9th, 2008, 01:25 PM
No, Rik is in the final, not Leoneo.:)

Petkorazzi
Nov 9th, 2008, 01:39 PM
Meelis vs. Rik

01:01| Williams vs. Zvonareva (1-0 Srs.)

Chris84/SloKid vs. Italians

02:01| Williams +2 vs. Zvonareva +2

Willam
Nov 9th, 2008, 01:52 PM
thanks for the update gigi :bowdown:

Rik.
Nov 9th, 2008, 01:54 PM
Bepa :rocker2:

Rui.
Nov 9th, 2008, 03:57 PM
Congrats Meelis and Chris/Slokid :hatoff:

SloKid
Nov 9th, 2008, 03:57 PM
Thank you Venus for giving Chris and me the win taking our YEC record to 11-0 in these three years. :)

Rui.
Nov 9th, 2008, 03:57 PM
Chris/Milan 3rd finish as number 1's
:worship:

FORZA SARITA
Nov 9th, 2008, 04:00 PM
Congrats Chris/Slokid and Meelis ;)

Willam
Nov 9th, 2008, 04:01 PM
Thanks Jero for another flawless tournament managed :worship:

HenryMag.
Nov 9th, 2008, 04:02 PM
Congrats to Chris/Slokid and meelis :yeah:

Thanks to Jero for managing this one.

FORZA SARITA
Nov 9th, 2008, 04:03 PM
Thanks Jero for another flawless tournament managed :worship:

nobody cares of you :awww:

Willam
Nov 9th, 2008, 04:05 PM
nobody cares of you :awww:

why do you have to be such an asshole?

I spent one week of my time running something for you?

As far as im concerned i gave OOPs in times, i did update in time, i posted diffs in time :rolleyes:

I expect atlease a thanks from you.

Posts like yours makes me wonder if i wanna keep managing, i know you don't care right now, but you would be losing a really good manager for this game.

Rui.
Nov 9th, 2008, 04:09 PM
why do you have to be such an asshole?

I spent one week of my time running something for you?

As far as im concerned i gave OOPs in times, i did update in time, i posted diffs in time :rolleyes:

I expect atlease a thanks from you.

Posts like yours makes me wonder if i wanna keep managing, i know you don't care right now, but you would be losing a really good manager for this game.

he was just kidding and those type of comments don't help you very much :p

Why do you people to worship your work?...you did a good job, thanks for managing.

Elwin.
Nov 9th, 2008, 04:11 PM
Congrats Winners :D

Rik.
Nov 9th, 2008, 04:27 PM
Congrats Meelis, SloKid and Chris84 :)

And Jero thanks for running ;)

Meelis
Nov 9th, 2008, 04:33 PM
Congrats Chris and Milan.

Others :hug:

Thanks for running Jero ;)

Adrian.
Nov 9th, 2008, 05:36 PM
Meelis is our new #1 :bigclap:

Willam
Nov 9th, 2008, 05:36 PM
Meelis :rocker2:

James
Nov 9th, 2008, 06:22 PM
Congrats Meelis, Chris and Milan. :hatoff:

Thanks for running, Jeronimo. :D

leoneo
Nov 10th, 2008, 11:19 AM
Congrats Meelis~~~

And Jero thanks for running~~~

Uncle Jason
Nov 10th, 2008, 01:17 PM
congrates to the winners and the manager
congrates to hotel and leoneo made to SF with a perfect RR score
thanks for the drama, i wanna see more next year :haha:

Dementieva_Dude
Nov 11th, 2008, 12:27 AM
Congrats to the winners/finalists :worship:

Thanks to the manager for running this event

Have a good 'off-season' everyone!

ALYOUNA
Nov 11th, 2008, 01:49 AM
congrates to the winners and the manager
congrates to hotel and leoneo made to SF with a perfect RR score
thanks for the drama, i wanna see more next year :haha:reasonable words,I also wanna see more next year.