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frenchie
Oct 21st, 2008, 11:47 AM
It was Adv Benesova, she won the point and the umpire said "deuce":rolleyes::eek:

She went to the umpire, talked for a few minutes but the umpire didn't correct the score
She just smashed her racket in disbelief

She eventuelly won that game:worship:

Come on Iveta
Beat that cheater:tape:

Rik.
Oct 21st, 2008, 11:50 AM
old news :wavey:

frenchie
Oct 21st, 2008, 11:51 AM
Yeah

I guess the tennis authorities are doing everything they can so this hopeless british player succeed!

Dave.
Oct 21st, 2008, 11:53 AM
Yeah

I guess the tennis authorities are doing everything they can so this hopeless british player succeed!

She didn't look too hopeless in the first set, or indeed at the start of the third until this thing took place.

Хлоэ
Oct 21st, 2008, 11:55 AM
cmon Iveta

Graf~Dokic
Oct 21st, 2008, 11:55 AM
Yeah

I guess the tennis authorities are doing everything they can so this hopeless british player succeed!

How funny... :rolleyes: Robson is 1000 times better than Benesova as a 14-year old.

Dawson.
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:06 PM
Beat that cheater:tape:

:lol: are you saying that Laura is the one who cheated?! :tape:

azza
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:07 PM
It was Adv Benesova, she won the point and the umpire said "deuce":rolleyes::eek:

She went to the umpire, talked for a few minutes but the umpire didn't correct the score
She just smashed her racket in disbelief

She eventuelly won that game:worship:

Come on Iveta
Beat that cheater:tape:

Oh Okay, So the fact that the umpire got the score wrong indicates Robson is a cheater because she had something to do with it.

Oh,Okay.

Tennis Ball
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:07 PM
:eek:
Couldn't Laura have validated the score?!
I can't believe the umpire didn't know the score :eek:

Medina
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:09 PM
shes a cheater because she was ready to return, or getting ready. Called duece then asked for some tennis balls. And was wating to serve. Dead set, she needs to mature a little mroe to gain respect.

Vincey!
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:18 PM
shes a cheater because she was ready to return, or getting ready. Called duece then asked for some tennis balls. And was wating to serve. Dead set, she needs to mature a little mroe to gain respect.

Well she's not the first player to not remember the score during matches, that's not making her a cheater, the umpire is the one who called it not Robson :shrug:...I mean it's not like if Laura went to the umpire amd complained about the score then the umpire changed her decision. The umpire called it, and then Robson was ready to serve.

Dawson.
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:18 PM
oh great, the haters will now refer to 14 year old robson as a cheater from now on :lol::rolleyes:

MyskinaManiac
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:22 PM
Very unsportsman like. If it were a Lindsay on the other side, Robson would have copped a spanking!

Medina
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:23 PM
Well she's not the first player to not remember the score during matches, that's not making her a cheater, the umpire is the one who called it not Robson :shrug:...I mean it's not like if Laura went to the umpire amd complained about the score then the umpire changed her decision. The umpire called it, and then Robson was ready to serve.

Yes that is true. But to me it looked liek she knew the score. She wasnt ready to serve again, untill they called duece. But really in reality you should know whats right from right. But theres nothing we can do about it now.

:lol: Robson Cheater :rocker2:. But if she didnt know, then my apologies. But to me it looked as if she knew the score.

pancake
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:24 PM
She's just 14-year-old for f*ck's sake. I mean she may be just immature or too nervous to know what she should do. And even if she knows the score then okay she is just 14-year-old and there's pressure on her already so she may be confused because she hopes she can win this match and doesn't know what's the rite thing to do. If she does it again in the future, say like, when she's 18, then well you can tell her a cheater.

scottd
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:25 PM
Just because Robson was getting ready to return doesn't automatically mean that she intended to deceive. It's perfectly possible that she wasn't aware of the score, as she wouldn't be the first player to commit such an error.

It was inexcusable mistake from the umpire, mind.

frenchie
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:40 PM
just lika Karolina, Robson knew the score was wrong and said nothing!

Glad Iveta won

Dave.
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:56 PM
Even if Laura did know the score and said nothing, it doesn't mean she is cheating. If you think that's cheating then you don't know the meaning of the word. It isn't the player's job to keep track of the score and give points to their opponents.

CooCooCachoo
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:58 PM
Happened in ATP Rotterdam too, this year, between Simon and López. Feli completely pretended that he didn't know he lost the game :o It was at quite a crucial moment too.

Anyways, Simon had his way in the end :yeah:

Noctis
Oct 21st, 2008, 01:00 PM
So Laura is a cheater whens shes not a Umpire no challenges no screaming a 14 year old innocent girl Frenchie and Medina need to mature more:rolleyes:

frenchie
Oct 21st, 2008, 01:08 PM
It's like Laura was given something that was actually for Iveta!
and she didn't give it back!

that is a lack of integrity for me!

sammy01
Oct 21st, 2008, 01:10 PM
to me this isn't about cheating, its about doing the right thing. if laura knew it was game she should have said it to the umpire, if not then she just should carry on. this happened to me in a doubles once, the team i was playing thought it was game set match and came forward to shake our hands, when we said no its mp now they were like ok. anyway it took me and my partner 3 more games to finish off the match, but it would have felt hollow had we not been honest.

Dave.
Oct 21st, 2008, 01:16 PM
It is not the player's job to give things to their opponents. It is up to the umpire. If a player does go out of their way to give the point back, then they are being very good sports (like Ana RG Final 07), but it isn't required.

Capriati knew Serena's winner was good at USO 04, and Venus knew her serve was out in the Wimbledon 05 Final but they didn't say anything. It doesn't mean they are cheating, they are just doing their job.

Cheating is when a player goes out of their way to change things in their favour (like when Henin lied at RG 03). Not doing anything is not cheating. In the heat of competition, the "right thing" is to remain focused on the point, not to go out of your way to give your opponent a point.

Beat
Oct 21st, 2008, 01:21 PM
in that infamous wimbledon match, nobody said anything. but i can't believe the umpire didn't check again when iveta complained! totally unprofessional and unforgiveable.

frenchie
Oct 21st, 2008, 01:22 PM
It is not the player's job to give things to their opponents. It is up to the umpire. If a player does go out of their way to give the point back, then they are being very good sports (like Ana RG Final 07), but it isn't required.

Capriati knew Serena's winner was good at USO 04, and Venus knew her serve was out in the Wimbledon 05 Final but they didn't say anything. It doesn't mean they are cheating, they are just doing their job.

Cheating is when a player goes out of their way to change things in their favour (like when Henin lied at RG 03). Not doing anything is not cheating. In the heat of competition, the "right thing" is to remain focused on the point, not to go out of your way to give your opponent a point.

OK maybe:confused:

but I was not raised this way;)

merda2004
Oct 21st, 2008, 01:35 PM
It was Adv Benesova, she won the point and the umpire said "deuce":rolleyes::eek:

She went to the umpire, talked for a few minutes but the umpire didn't correct the score
She just smashed her racket in disbelief

She eventuelly won that game:worship:

Come on Iveta
Beat that cheater:tape:

I CANT BELIEVE THAT U STARTED A THREAD LIKE THIS ONE!!!U MUST BE KIDDING RIGHT?OR HAVE A WEIRD SENSE OF HUMOUR!
IT WAS THE UMPIRES FAULT NOT LAURAS!
GET A LIFE!

LadyLil
Oct 21st, 2008, 01:43 PM
Anyone know who the chair was?

Sean.
Oct 21st, 2008, 01:45 PM
:woohoo: She;s got haters so she's going to be successful!

Хлоэ
Oct 21st, 2008, 01:47 PM
:rolls: have a break ladies & gentlmen :lol:

Lunaris
Oct 21st, 2008, 01:49 PM
Anyone know who the chair was?
I was about to ask. This kind of garbage has no business on the tour. The umpire should be fined and spend some time umpiring futures or something. I absolutely understand Iveta's frustration.

hablo
Oct 21st, 2008, 01:58 PM
Benesova should have done what Momo did when Azderaki messed up the score in a match vs JJ (?). Had a big fit and sat on her chair and refuse to continue to play till the tournament director (or whoever it was) came and made the umpire change the score. :tape:

Sean.
Oct 21st, 2008, 02:00 PM
Benesova should have done what Momo did when Azderaki messed up the score in a match vs JJ (?). Had a big fit and sat on her chair and refuse to continue to play till the tournament director (or whoever it was) came and made the umpire change the score. :tape:

:lol: SO basically through a tantrum and stamp her feet?

sammy01
Oct 21st, 2008, 02:03 PM
Benesova should have done what Momo did when Azderaki messed up the score in a match vs JJ (?). Had a big fit and sat on her chair and refuse to continue to play till the tournament director (or whoever it was) came and made the umpire change the score. :tape:

its the way to deal with it, but it only works if your a big name player. momo deserves props for that, she stood her ground took it to the next level and got her way. i can just see mary pierce doing the same thing only she would have the umpire removed as well lmao

Dawson.
Oct 21st, 2008, 02:26 PM
Oh I wish i could see some of the posters on this board when they were 14 years old :lol:
Laura probably has more maturity in her little finger than what some of you are showing right now :lol::rolleyes:

Noctis
Oct 21st, 2008, 02:32 PM
they will be more immature if Laura had won :rolleyes:

Miss Atomic Bomb
Oct 21st, 2008, 02:38 PM
Cut those nails ladies and put on your gloves, it wasnt Laura's fault.

Louis Cyphre
Oct 21st, 2008, 02:55 PM
It was Adv Benesova, she won the point and the umpire said "deuce":rolleyes::eek:

She went to the umpire, talked for a few minutes but the umpire didn't correct the score
She just smashed her racket in disbelief

She eventuelly won that game:worship:

Come on Iveta
Beat that cheater:tape:

Jankovic did that too :lol: Before 1-2 years vs Mauresmo or someone else ... It was Ad I think and the umpire said deuce or something like that and Mauresmo argue with the umpire than ask Jankovic but she said that she can`t remember :lol::help: Lying bitch :lol: Then she asked her mother and she said she can`t remember too :lol: It seems that the whole family is the same :help: The crowd starts to laugh :lol: That was the first time that I was really disappointed from Jankovic but latter I understand that its her usual behavior - fake injuries , fake smiles , lying when its possible and so on

Play_Suspended
Oct 21st, 2008, 02:58 PM
they will be more immature if Laura had won :rolleyes:

:haha: so true

rrfnpump
Oct 21st, 2008, 03:01 PM
Love it how all the Brits are defending Robson. :lol:

She didn't step in for Benesova when she easily could have. Of course, this is professional tennis we are talking about, but it was not a sportsmanlike behaviour by Robson. There is nobody who can deny that. You don't need to be a good sportsman to be successful though. :)

Play_Suspended
Oct 21st, 2008, 03:13 PM
Love it how all the Brits are defending Robson. :lol:

She didn't step in for Benesova when she easily could have. Of course, this is professional tennis we are talking about, but it was not a sportsmanlike behaviour by Robson. There is nobody who can deny that. You don't need to be a good sportsman to be successful though. :)

lol, very few players would have stepped in. yes that would have been the sporting thing to do, if she was totally clear on the score, which she probably was. Though to be fair i was watching the match live and had forgotten the score at the point, i always lose the scoring when playing as well. The point is that the OP accuses her of cheating benesova which clearly isnt the case as:

a) benesova won the game anyway and therefore wasnt actually cheated (though that doesnt affect the situation at the time)

b) its not the players responsibility to keep the score (or am i wrong?) so therefore she couldnt cheat her on this. If anyone cheated benesova it was the umpire.

serenus_2k8
Oct 21st, 2008, 03:21 PM
Love it how all the Brits are defending Robson. :lol:

She didn't step in for Benesova when she easily could have. Of course, this is professional tennis we are talking about, but it was not a sportsmanlike behaviour by Robson. There is nobody who can deny that. You don't need to be a good sportsman to be successful though. :)

Shes a 14 year old girl already being hated on and called a cheater. British or not, grow some balls and learn some respect for other people. Frenchie is an absolute joke, what sort of a pathetic mess is so unsatisfied with their life they need to lay into children.

Laura has never played an event like this, or anywhere near this and probably had a lot of emotions and mixed feelings, particularly as she made such a great start. Grow up and deal with the fact that she may not have known, and move on :wavey:

LudwigDvorak
Oct 21st, 2008, 03:22 PM
Laura screamed when it went to 15-40. It's pretty obvious she knew what the damn score was.

Dave.
Oct 21st, 2008, 03:24 PM
Love it how all the Brits are defending Robson. :lol:

She didn't step in for Benesova when she easily could have. Of course, this is professional tennis we are talking about, but it was not a sportsmanlike behaviour by Robson. There is nobody who can deny that. You don't need to be a good sportsman to be successful though. :)

It wasen't unsportsmanlike either.

LadyLil
Oct 21st, 2008, 03:25 PM
No one knows who the chair umpire was?

Noctis
Oct 21st, 2008, 03:28 PM
No one knows who the chair umpire was?

Some old hag that cant remeber the scores,its funny no one will ever know except us the score is wrong

pancake
Oct 21st, 2008, 03:37 PM
It wasen't unsportsmanlike either.

Yes it probably wasn't, it is something we expect a person should do. I mean one can't just say oh she's not the umpire so what she does should be excused. It's just like saying we are not the police so if we will see a thief trying to run away and we can still do nothing because it's the police's responsibility to catch the thief.

But in this case we should give Robson the benefit of doubt, who can say for sure she really remembers the score? The umpire messes it up, and Robson is also only a human and it's possible that she also doesn't remember what's the right score. And plus she's only 14 and she may be immature, or doesn't know how to deal with such situation.

davidmario
Oct 21st, 2008, 03:41 PM
why didn't iveta call for the supervisor? I mean there are technical possibilities to prove it.

Spartan
Oct 21st, 2008, 04:13 PM
Benesova should have done what Momo did when Azderaki messed up the score in a match vs JJ (?). Had a big fit and sat on her chair and refuse to continue to play till the tournament director (or whoever it was) came and made the umpire change the score. :tape:

I remember that one, the crowd were cheering her name while she was sitting waiting. I love angry Amelie :hearts::hearts::hearts:

Didn't see todays match but i'd give Robson the benefit of the doubt. It's hardly her fault the umpire couldn't do his/her job.

Destiny
Oct 21st, 2008, 04:28 PM
:rolleyes:

pov
Oct 21st, 2008, 04:37 PM
The umpire might have helped Benesova. The error and refusal to correct it might have pissed her off enough that it added an extra gear to her game.

vadin124
Oct 21st, 2008, 05:39 PM
some of you people on this board really are pathetic it's unreal...go out and get yourself lives, instead of wasting away in reclusion harbouring unwarranted hate onto 14 year old's who are better than yourselves...

Kabomba
Oct 21st, 2008, 05:56 PM
Jankovic did that too :lol: Before 1-2 years vs Mauresmo or someone else ... It was Ad I think and the umpire said deuce or something like that and Mauresmo argue with the umpire than ask Jankovic but she said that she can`t remember :lol::help: Lying bitch :lol: Then she asked her mother and she said she can`t remember too :lol: It seems that the whole family is the same :help: The crowd starts to laugh :lol: That was the first time that I was really disappointed from Jankovic but latter I understand that its her usual behavior - fake injuries , fake smiles , lying when its possible and so on

No,you started to hate JJ after she beat Pironkova in 1 or 2 close that matches :wavey:

gg
Oct 21st, 2008, 06:08 PM
Laura should have called upon her many years of experience and the confidence of maturity to take full control of the situation and overrule all these novice officials.

Rui.
Oct 21st, 2008, 06:25 PM
i love how Michelle and Laura are 15 and 14 and they have more haters than most of the players in the top 100 :rolls:

Buitenzorg
Oct 21st, 2008, 09:44 PM
sack the umpire...:mad: thank goodness Iveta won the match, or else I would have been so pissed off!

Ryan
Oct 21st, 2008, 09:47 PM
Yes that is true. But to me it looked liek she knew the score. She wasnt ready to serve again, untill they called duece. But really in reality you should know whats right from right. But theres nothing we can do about it now.

:lol: Robson Cheater :rocker2:. But if she didnt know, then my apologies. But to me it looked as if she knew the score.



You're an idiot. She's a 14 year old girl playing in a big event (for her). You expect her to correct a score?

Lindsayfan32
Oct 21st, 2008, 09:49 PM
Very unsportsman like. If it were a Lindsay on the other side, Robson would have copped a spanking!

Oh yeah who cares about one point that sounds like a dead issue anyway. Who won the match? :)

schorsch
Oct 21st, 2008, 10:09 PM
What the eff?

The minute Laura plays a big event like this she's not a 14-year-old anymore, she's a prof. player and has got to be treated the same as everyone, so that arg. she's only 14 doesnt work, because she even got a WC, so either you deal with it or not. No excuses.

BUT, what she showed here was her desire to win. Some of you mentioned calls that some players knew were out, but didnt correct and some of you talked about being a good sport and correcting the call like Ana did at RG.
Now these players, they're hungry for pts., sometimes a match is decided on only few pts. here there and usually when you give up a pt like that and the momentum goes against you, you can't stop thinking about that point you just gave away, because these players, they just want every pt. Its their job they really do. So you cant blame them for being quiet about it. When luck comes your way you dont slap it in the face usually, because it could come back as bad luck and haunt you. Yes, you will be called a good sport if you do, but your competitiveness mite be doubted, too. The opp. are quick to pick up on this. Its a game of psychology every day out there.

But I think as long as you didnt contribute to the mistake like pointing to a false mark on clay on purpose, you are not a bad sport. You are just doing your job.