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Dawson.
Oct 20th, 2008, 08:15 PM
The 'Who will be the best Russian in 2008' poll recently got bumped in GM. And as most of you would have seen, Safina recieved 0 votes. Even Duchevina & Kirilenko got votes. Those people who voted were probably fans. Now I only joined this forum in May (after Safina's berlin success) so my question is; did Safina even have any true fans before this year?? Or have users simply jumped on the bandwagon?

Also, for usres who have been on this forum since 2005 (ish) or before, same question for Petrova. I don't see any support for Petrova in peoples sigs, I'm just wondering if Petrova had support in 05/06 during her peak (ie - users jumped on the bandwagon) and now that she has fallen from the elite, has her support faded? (or did she never have support to begin with :tape:)

miffedmax
Oct 20th, 2008, 09:28 PM
It's almost impossible to find a player who doesn't have at least a couple supporters around here. Dinara and Nadia have always had their backers.

But yes, there are a lot of bandwagon jumpers around here. Over time though, it tends to shake out and you get to know who the sincere, hard-core fans are and who just rushes from hot player to hot player.

You also have to take into account that favorite players do retire, and fans sometimes like to "try on a few" before settling on a new favorite.

new-york
Oct 20th, 2008, 10:05 PM
having better results makes your audience grow and more people are able to discover you, to see you play regularly.

you bandagwon when you leave with good performances.

sometimes it's like you don't have the right to become a fan just because you woke up late.

timing.

Harvs
Oct 20th, 2008, 10:29 PM
the poll asked for who would be the "biggest russian in 2008", not "who is ur favourite russian"

noone would have guessed safina would have had the success she had this year... and her already fans probably would have voted for other players as she has been so suprising.

so yeah, i think ur thread really has nothing to do with what that thread actually meant lol:shrug:
:)

Sean.
Oct 20th, 2008, 10:31 PM
The 'Who will be the best Russian in 2008' poll recently got bumped in GM. And as most of you would have seen, Safina recieved 0 votes. Even Duchevina & Kirilenko got votes. Those people who voted were probably fans. Now I only joined this forum in May (after Safina's berlin success) so my question is; did Safina even have any true fans before this year?? Or have users simply jumped on the bandwagon?

Also, for usres who have been on this forum since 2005 (ish) or before, same question for Petrova. I don't see any support for Petrova in peoples sigs, I'm just wondering if Petrova had support in 05/06 during her peak (ie - users jumped on the bandwagon) and now that she has fallen from the elite, has her support faded? (or did she never have support to begin with :tape:)

Says the person who only supported Laura since Wimbledon :rolleyes:

Oh the irony :lol::tape:

vadin124
Oct 20th, 2008, 11:30 PM
i jumped on the Bartoli bandwagon when she reached the Wimby final, and i've never looked back, even though she hasn't had the same success this year...that is because she is just a wonderful person and so kindhearted and i looove her soo much! she's awesome, and i'll never jump off!

Dawson.
Oct 20th, 2008, 11:38 PM
...;14281036']the poll asked for who would be the "biggest russian in 2008", not "who is ur favourite russian"

noone would have guessed safina would have had the success she had this year... and her already fans probably would have voted for other players as she has been so suprising.

so yeah, i think ur thread really has nothing to do with what that thread actually meant lol:shrug:
:)

as i said in my first post, even duchevina and kirilenko got votes. Did people actually believe they would be the best russians of 2008? the people who voted for those players were probably fans. safina recieved 0 votes, not even from 'fans'

Dawson.
Oct 20th, 2008, 11:40 PM
Says the person who only supported Laura since Wimbledon :rolleyes:

Oh the irony :lol::tape:

laura robson has been in my sig since i joined this forum... in MAY!

i had been following her results in juniors for quite some time. so please get your facts right before posting, thanks :wavey:

ps - when did you add laura to your sig??! :rolleyes::rolleyes: come to think of it, when did you add safina aswell? :lol:

pov
Oct 20th, 2008, 11:47 PM
Jumping on the bandwagon is okay. That said, as a player shows improvement they generally pick up more fans. Would the WS have as many fans if they'd never made top 10? Of course they wouldn't.

Sean.
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:11 AM
laura robson has been in my sig since i joined this forum... in MAY!

i had been following her results in juniors for quite some time. so please get your facts right before posting, thanks :wavey:

ps - when did you add laura to your sig??! :rolleyes::rolleyes: come to think of it, when did you add safina aswell? :lol:

I've known about Laura for years, as she lives about 10 mins walk from me.

I've been a fan of Dina since 2002 when I saw her at wimbledon.

Dawson.
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:19 AM
^^ fair enough. Do you see now why people shouldn't be so presumptuous?! :p

LH2HBH
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:20 AM
You could call it a bandwagon or you could say she earned a lot of fans after finally getting her game together. She wasn't very enjoyable to watch before. Now she's much more athletic and her game is more explosive.

iPatty
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:22 AM
I have the distinction of being a poster who has been a fan of both Petrova and Safina before their big breakthrough years. Of course I stopped supporting Nadia in 2006 for other reasons but I can't see that happening with Dinara. I have liked Dinara ever since I saw her play Mauresmo in Paris OGDF 2005.

Uranium
Oct 21st, 2008, 01:07 AM
I've liked Safina since 2004 when she played Sopot and have followed and liked her since, but I am liking her more now.
I must say I don't remember Safina fans before Berlin besides the Russian posters who support every Russian.

alwayshingis
Oct 21st, 2008, 01:09 AM
I think the entire concept of jumping on bandwagons (and the negative connotations that go along with that) is a little ridiculous. I tend to support young players when they first arrive because I always like seeing things change and seeing the WTA status quo shaken up a bit.

People always support (or at least follow) young players with a lot of potential when they first start because they have no opinions formed about that player to begin with, and that player has a chance to really change the way things look -- to be the next "great" player. We see this with Robson and Larcher De Brito right now. In the case of someone like Nadia, she was a familiar figure on the tour by 05-06, so the excitement level would not be as high. Even when she had that great run at the French in 03, people had already seen her and formed opinions about her before her success. The same is the case with Dinara. People already knew her before her success, so the bandwagon would not be that extreme.

sammy01
Oct 21st, 2008, 02:19 AM
it always happens, i mean chaky was so much more popular last year, because she was winning so many matches. if safina has a fall from grace (which i think will happen next year) you will see her popularity fall. each player has their hardcore fans and you realise who they are when players struggle as they stay true to their favourite.

im pretty clear on the players i like and don't and any of them winning or losing won't change that, players generaly will earn my respect or lose it, not become my favourite or hated. its a rare thing to make my favourite list, others are obviously more fickle.

Junex
Oct 21st, 2008, 04:03 AM
I remember i created a thread before entitled "How has your faves' list change through the years?"

historically for me, I have always liked Justine and no matter what happens, even when she retires she was and always will be my numero UNO!

the next persons following her vary from time to time.
I quite agree that with success comes more followers (bandwagoners), but i also tend to believe that some players lost some fans with their success indirectly because they become to absorbed with their status!

I used to loved Maria & Myskina (to tell you the truth i predicted a wimbledon win for Maria weeks before her SW19 triumph, it was actually featured and i was quoted in the WTAtour website)

When Myskina change her attitude towards Maria after the latter's wimbledon triumph, I started to dislike Myskina.
When Maria become so obssesed with winning by any means to please her sponsors (and on the process becomes the superficial diva), it got me turned off!
Anna, I was a big fan, i used to like the teary eyed mary peircesque russian beauty... after her success something becomes of her which i don't really like.

Dinara I hope won't cruise in that direction, as I have seen her, with her current success, she is still the oafette i loved. i hope she remains down to earth.