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Droolv
Oct 18th, 2008, 11:37 AM
Hopefully Maria can finish the year on a high in Linz this week ;)

(8) Alize Cornet vs Jie Zheng
Maria Kirilenko vs Qualifier
Qualifier vs Samantha Stosur
BYE vs (2) Vera Zvonareva

Good luck Maria :yeah:

VIKA?
Oct 18th, 2008, 11:48 AM
Against Zheng in the second:scared:

Good luck babyyy:hearts::banana:

DAVAJ MKirilenko
Oct 18th, 2008, 11:55 AM
Zheng in the 2nd sounds tough.
Hopefully she can at least beat the Q and take the 35 points.
A QF will be nice of course. Let's continue the good play!

DAVAJ MARIA!!!!!

Nikkiri
Oct 18th, 2008, 05:40 PM
Good luck Maria good chance to win some matches. Zheng hasn't been all the impressive lately I believe she lost in qualies last week or something? Anyways first things first beat the qualifier.

Kiriber
Oct 18th, 2008, 05:54 PM
Fingers crossed. :)

only_one_maria
Oct 18th, 2008, 06:51 PM
A quarter-final would be a fine end to the season.

SOA_MC
Oct 18th, 2008, 07:06 PM
Any news on Maria's knee?

:topic: I think Stosur will beat Zvonareva

Dinayer
Oct 18th, 2008, 10:11 PM
Good luck in linz, maria!

:)

Sharapower8
Oct 19th, 2008, 01:42 PM
Good luck girl !

DAVAJ MKirilenko
Oct 19th, 2008, 11:05 PM
Any news on Maria's knee?


Maria's knee is all fine now. 100% for Linz.
Too bad the season is almost over cause Maria finally found some form now.
In Zurich I even asked myself if I like Maria as much as Ana. I find that hard to answer now.

I hope she can get a QF here. I believe she can.

kirivanovic
Oct 20th, 2008, 11:53 AM
The draw is ok,a 1st round against a qualifier is always tough but i don't think that one of them could beat Maria.2nd round against Cornet or Zheng(i hate these 2 players)will be difficult because Maria will have to run a lot but they aren't in good form,so all is possible for a 1/4 final.

The doubles draw is awful with a 2nd round against Black/Huber:mad:

Warrior
Oct 20th, 2008, 05:30 PM
Who's the qualifier Maria'll be facing?

Zumoq
Oct 20th, 2008, 05:39 PM
Maria plays Olga Savchuk twice tomorrow :)

Tuesday, October 21, 2008

Centre Court (from 11.00hrs)
1. A.Bondarenko vs. Makarova
2. Savchuk vs. Kirilenko
3. Bartoli vs. Sugiyama
4. K.Bondarenko vs. Petrova (NB 16.00hrs)
5. Meusburger vs. Cibulkova (NB 18.30hrs)

Show Court (from 12.00hrs)
1. Llagostera Vives vs. Stosur
2. Vesnina/Zheng vs. Bratchikova/Schruff
3. Kirilenko/Pennetta vs. Savchuk/Woerle (NB 17.00hrs)
4. Dzehalevich/Poutchek vs. Srebotnik/Sugiyama

Good luck! :bounce:

Nikkiri
Oct 20th, 2008, 08:56 PM
Savchuk can be tricky but Maria should win this. Good luck. :)

Dinayer
Oct 20th, 2008, 09:44 PM
Udachi, Maria! :)

DAVAJ MKirilenko
Oct 20th, 2008, 10:22 PM
The Maria from Zurich will win this one. Hopefully we'll see the same Maria there.
Lots of luck! DAVAJ MARIA!!

only_one_maria
Oct 21st, 2008, 11:20 AM
I've never heard of Savchuk, so I'll just hope for the best.

only_one_maria
Oct 21st, 2008, 11:33 AM
So as soon as I get on the computer Makiri's match just happens to be starting. Lots to do but it will have to wait.

Good start 2-0.

Droolv
Oct 21st, 2008, 11:55 AM
First set to Maria 6-2 :cool:

Finish it off in two :armed:

Nikkiri
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:24 PM
Of course she's having a mini meltdown in the 2nd. :o

Droolv
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:24 PM
*2-5 :help: Oh no Maria :sobbing:

Protoss
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:25 PM
Argh...why can't Maria stay focused for a whole match? :(

kirivanovic
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:29 PM
She has to break her back:help:

She can't lose against Savchuk:smash:

kirivanovic
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:38 PM
1 set point saved and she breaks her back at her 4th opportunity:rolleyes:

Now,i hope that she won't choke:o

Droolv
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:43 PM
5 all, keep focussed Maria :awww:

kirivanovic
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:53 PM
6-5 now for Maria,it seems to be a great battle but Maria is stronger:worship:.

Now,after this great effort,she can't be broken:rolleyes:

kirivanovic
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:56 PM
GSM Masha who finishes the match in style after having saved 1 SP :worship:

I think that the GrrKiri was here pumping her fist when Savchuk led 5-3 :lol:

Nikkiri
Oct 21st, 2008, 12:57 PM
Fought back to close it out in 2. :worship: Well done Maria. :)

dulkogii
Oct 21st, 2008, 01:00 PM
Good win Mariki !

Zumoq
Oct 21st, 2008, 01:01 PM
Well done Maria! :D

That's right, leave the choking to somebody else! :p

only_one_maria
Oct 21st, 2008, 01:08 PM
I saw she'd won the first set, then I stopped paying attention.

Got a bit of a shock when I next looked at the score and it was 2-5 2nd set. 'Masha, not again!' Good to see her recover it.

Protoss
Oct 21st, 2008, 01:12 PM
Silly me...after the 1st set I thought Maria was gonna win the 2nd set comfortably. I should have known better. :p

Good job Maria. :)

VIKA?
Oct 21st, 2008, 01:15 PM
Yayy:bounce::bounce: nice fight Maria:D good luck against Alize;)

Dinayer
Oct 21st, 2008, 01:40 PM
well done!
good luck against cornet :awww:

Sharapower8
Oct 21st, 2008, 03:25 PM
Congrats Maria !
Don't worry about Cornet, she'll just kick her ass :devil:

Zumoq
Oct 21st, 2008, 05:26 PM
Maria and Flavia managed to win their match after a very close super tie-break, winning 6-1 3-6 12-10. They also saved a match point at 9-10. :)

Better step it up a bit in the next round.

Warrior
Oct 21st, 2008, 05:30 PM
A doubles win sets up another match with Black/Huber. Hopefully this time they can finally beat them.

Zumoq
Oct 21st, 2008, 05:52 PM
Maria plays the last match tomorrow:

Wednesday, October 22, 2008

Centre Court (from 14.00hrs)
1. A.Radwanska vs. Kanepi
2. Szavay vs. Pennetta
3. Bammer vs. Schiavone
4. Paszek vs. Kvitova
5. Cornet vs. Kirilenko :hearts: (NB 20.15hrs)

Come on Maria! :bounce:

Warrior
Oct 21st, 2008, 06:06 PM
Next match is very difficult, but winnable.

only_one_maria
Oct 21st, 2008, 06:06 PM
A doubles win sets up another match with Black/Huber. Hopefully this time they can finally beat them.

Third time lucky, perhaps.

Mike_from_Russia
Oct 21st, 2008, 07:32 PM
Congrats with today's win Maria! Good luck tomorrow!

DAVAJ MKirilenko
Oct 21st, 2008, 08:09 PM
Barely trouble on her own serve. It's actually 1 bad game in the match, bad a good recovery at the end. Winning the last 5 games and end with a love game.
Cornet is trying to get out of the whole so it's hard to say what it will be tomorrow.

Congrats with the victory and good luck tomorrow! DAVAJ!

VIKA?
Oct 21st, 2008, 08:58 PM
congrats for doubles victory girls:bounce: but it was so close:scared:

and good luck tommorrow Maria:banana: u can beat Alize!

Droolv
Oct 21st, 2008, 11:11 PM
Just scraped out that doubles win :lol:

Good luck against Alize :yeah:

Slampova
Oct 22nd, 2008, 04:35 AM
Good luck against Alize Maria :bowdown:

Labamba
Oct 22nd, 2008, 09:57 AM
QF would be nice in her last tournament of the year

good luck against Alize :angel:

schorsch
Oct 22nd, 2008, 06:20 PM
i dont know if i can record tonite, but http://www.tw1.at/jart/prj3/tw1/website.jart?rel=de&content-id=1181814259773&reserve-mode=active here should be stream makiri later on :D

King Aaron
Oct 22nd, 2008, 06:36 PM
Good luck later Maria. :kiss:

:scratch: I wonder if I have coverage.

only_one_maria
Oct 22nd, 2008, 06:50 PM
i dont know if i can record tonite, but http://www.tw1.at/jart/prj3/tw1/website.jart?rel=de&content-id=1181814259773&reserve-mode=active here should be stream makiri later on :D


Great find. I can't wait for it to start!

schorsch
Oct 22nd, 2008, 07:05 PM
those idiots are showing a rerun of bammer instead of makiri :mad: :sad:

SOA_MC
Oct 22nd, 2008, 07:38 PM
Great start 3-0

86% serving through 2 service game

SOA_MC
Oct 22nd, 2008, 07:58 PM
6-1

85% Serving in the first set

Nikkiri
Oct 22nd, 2008, 08:00 PM
No 2nd set meltdown plz. :sobbing:

VIKA?
Oct 22nd, 2008, 08:00 PM
:worship: MARIA keep doing:worship:

Nikkiri
Oct 22nd, 2008, 08:22 PM
Maria is down 1-4 in the 2nd set. Who would have expected that. :o

SOA_MC
Oct 22nd, 2008, 08:36 PM
oddly enough 89% serving in the second set:shrug:

Nikkiri
Oct 22nd, 2008, 08:39 PM
Well she's probably just getting the ball in with nothing on it.

3rd set. :)

Mike_from_Russia
Oct 22nd, 2008, 08:39 PM
2:6 in 2nd set after such good start...No, not again... :(

Protoss
Oct 22nd, 2008, 08:40 PM
oddly enough 88% serving in the second set:shrug:
Probably just spinning it in. :(

Fight Maria.

only_one_maria
Oct 22nd, 2008, 08:41 PM
Keep fighting please............

VIKA?
Oct 22nd, 2008, 08:42 PM
Oh god! win this set please!

Protoss
Oct 22nd, 2008, 08:52 PM
According to the stats, Maria's 1st serve became pretty ineffective in the 2nd set as she won only 50% of points on it while Cornet's 1st serve became very effective with her winning 81% of points on her 1st serve in the 2nd set.

VIKA?
Oct 22nd, 2008, 09:00 PM
Kiri it's a amaizing choker:o 3-0 down:rolleyes:

watchdogfish
Oct 22nd, 2008, 09:01 PM
Is Maria hurt? There was a really long break at the end of the 2nd set :confused:

Zumoq
Oct 22nd, 2008, 09:01 PM
Come on, Maria! It's not bedtime yet.

Nikkiri
Oct 22nd, 2008, 09:04 PM
Is Maria hurt? There was a really long break at the end of the 2nd set :confused:

Maybe her knee again. :shrug:

VIKA?
Oct 22nd, 2008, 09:10 PM
5-1 bye bye Maria:wavey::sobbing::sobbing:

Nikkiri
Oct 22nd, 2008, 09:11 PM
Come on, Maria! It's not bedtime yet.

1-5 It pretty much is.

Maria you need to play well for more than 1 set. :sad:

VIKA?
Oct 22nd, 2008, 09:12 PM
she lost 16-62-61 :mad::o:sad::sobbing: WTF what's happened Maria?:rolleyes:

Mike_from_Russia
Oct 22nd, 2008, 09:15 PM
That's all... Maria lost. :sad: :sad: Maybe some injury...
Season is over.

only_one_maria
Oct 22nd, 2008, 09:16 PM
:sad:

Protoss
Oct 22nd, 2008, 09:17 PM
Unless Maria was injured, this is a very poor showing by her. Losing to Cornet on an indoor hard court is a bad sign.

Why can't Maria play well for more than 1 set?

Maria won only 39% of points on her 1st serve in the 3rd set while Cornet won 93% of points on her 1st serve in the 3rd set. In contrast, Maria won 64% of points on her 1st serve in the 1st serve which is the same % Cornet won in the 1st set.

Nikkiri
Oct 22nd, 2008, 09:18 PM
Lots to work on in the off season. I do wonder if the way she played in the 2nd and 3rd had anything to do with her knee.

Zumoq
Oct 22nd, 2008, 09:21 PM
:sad: A disappointing turn of events...

Waiting for you to come back, Maria :hug:

Dinayer
Oct 22nd, 2008, 10:18 PM
maria :awww:
no injury, please :scared:

Kiriber
Oct 22nd, 2008, 10:31 PM
Lots to work on in the off season. I do wonder if the way she played in the 2nd and 3rd had anything to do with her knee.

I'm thinking the same thing. This is Maria and she could have just blew the match off mentally, but with all her knee issues lately I'm much more inclined to look that way for now.

Still :sad: horrible note to end the year on.

Zumoq
Oct 22nd, 2008, 11:18 PM
I certainly hope she isn't injured. :help: But this year we've seen many results like tonight - Maria wins the first set, but goes on to lose in three...

Just browsing through her 2008 results and three-set losses, I quickly counted 9 losses where Maria won the first set, and only 3 losses where she won the second set. Also, when she won a three-set match, she seemed to win the first set more often than losing it.

Which means she often starts out well and does progressively worse.

There could be many explanations for this pattern, like Maria gets tired, she loses her concentration, her opponents are slow starters, or, it could just be a statistical fluke.

But sometimes I get the feeling that maybe Maria's game is a little bit too predictable? With every point, her opponents tune in on her game and can better predict her shots. In short, perhaps she makes her opponents play better and better? I for one don't like the brainless ball-bashing of many players, but there is one good thing to say about burying the ball deep in the net every other point: at least you don't let your opponents improve their game.

Not having seen many of her matches, I can't really say, this is just pure speculation on my part. But maybe some of you that have seen her more and understand a bit more of this than I do, could elaborate a bit on this: what do you think is the main cause of Maria's declining tendency in so many matches? If you even bothered to read this far, that is. :p

If there is something to it, since Maria does not have the do-or-die ball-bashing winner shots at her disposal, she must at least use variation more, so her oppononets don't figure out her game so quickly. Maybe Maria should hire a professional poker player as a second coach? :p

Anyway, I am not really satisfied if this is just dismissed as Maria's "mental weakness". Seems a bit too simple for me. To be honest, it tells me nothing, really.

Just wondering :)

Droolv
Oct 22nd, 2008, 11:44 PM
Comeback stronger in 2009 Maria :hug:

Sad loss, but good luck in doubles :sobbing:

Sharapower8
Oct 23rd, 2008, 07:30 PM
Awww I jinxed her :hysteric::sobbing:
She'll come back stronger ! :devil:

Natash.
Oct 23rd, 2008, 09:28 PM
I certainly hope she isn't injured. :help: But this year we've seen many results like tonight - Maria wins the first set, but goes on to lose in three...

Just browsing through her 2008 results and three-set losses, I quickly counted 9 losses where Maria won the first set, and only 3 losses where she won the second set. Also, when she won a three-set match, she seemed to win the first set more often than losing it.

Which means she often starts out well and does progressively worse.

There could be many explanations for this pattern, like Maria gets tired, she loses her concentration, her opponents are slow starters, or, it could just be a statistical fluke.

But sometimes I get the feeling that maybe Maria's game is a little bit too predictable? With every point, her opponents tune in on her game and can better predict her shots. In short, perhaps she makes her opponents play better and better? I for one don't like the brainless ball-bashing of many players, but there is one good thing to say about burying the ball deep in the net every other point: at least you don't let your opponents improve their game.

Not having seen many of her matches, I can't really say, this is just pure speculation on my part. But maybe some of you that have seen her more and understand a bit more of this than I do, could elaborate a bit on this: what do you think is the main cause of Maria's declining tendency in so many matches? If you even bothered to read this far, that is. :p

If there is something to it, since Maria does not have the do-or-die ball-bashing winner shots at her disposal, she must at least use variation more, so her oppononets don't figure out her game so quickly. Maybe Maria should hire a professional poker player as a second coach? :p

Anyway, I am not really satisfied if this is just dismissed as Maria's "mental weakness". Seems a bit too simple for me. To be honest, it tells me nothing, really.

Just wondering :)

Well, more so has to do with concentration. She starts making more errors and plays less smart. She's been using her variety a lot more this year, playing a different type of ball each time. Her forehand has improved this indoor season from her hardcourt as she's not just spinning it in.

Maria is just inconsistent. And sadly, it can be dismissed as mental or she's not physically well. She has been unlucky with a few minor injuries this year.

:lol: Cornet also does not have a big weapon and same with most of the players Maria has lost to in 3 sets.

Droolv
Oct 23rd, 2008, 11:33 PM
(1) Black/Huber d. Kirilenko/Pennetta W/O (Kirilenko: left knee injury) :sad:

Nikkiri
Oct 23rd, 2008, 11:41 PM
So it was the knee. :sad:

Well seasons over, time to go rest that knee and come back strong next year.

Zumoq
Oct 24th, 2008, 04:31 PM
Maria, the knee :hug: Get well soon!

Zumoq
Oct 24th, 2008, 04:47 PM
Well, more so has to do with concentration. She starts making more errors and plays less smart. She's been using her variety a lot more this year, playing a different type of ball each time. Her forehand has improved this indoor season from her hardcourt as she's not just spinning it in.

Maria is just inconsistent. And sadly, it can be dismissed as mental or she's not physically well. She has been unlucky with a few minor injuries this year.

:lol: Cornet also does not have a big weapon and same with most of the players Maria has lost to in 3 sets.

Thanks :hatoff:

Maria certainly has the talent to use variety well.

My hopes are a little up now. If she indeed can improve physically (and avoid injuries), it could also help her mentally. It could be much easier for her to remain focused and stay on top of things throughout her matches.

A physically better and competitive Grrkiri :drool: could do very well next year! :)

DAVAJ MKirilenko
Oct 24th, 2008, 10:38 PM
I can't imagine the injury is really serious.
Looked like it happend in Zurich against Hantuchova. She had tape on it for 2 days, but it was off already in the doubles match.

Still this scoreline is too weird. Got BP's in every game untill 6-1 40-0. And not a BP faced. After no BP created and winning only 3 games. If you're really injured you just retire in the match.

Skipp the challenger for the rest of the season and go for an even better AO.

Labamba
Oct 24th, 2008, 11:44 PM
Maria needs to solve that knee problem during the off-season, hopefully it won't require any surgery :hug:

Rest well and then work hard...the best of Maria is still yet to come :rocker2:

the cat
Oct 26th, 2008, 07:37 PM
If Maria has a sore left knee why is did she play singles and doubles for so many weeks in a row this fall? That was an insane schedule to play. Espeically for a tennis player with knee problems.

King Aaron
Oct 27th, 2008, 05:32 PM
Maria has had the knee trouble almost all throughout her career I think. I remember it being her reason for withdrawals of matches/tournaments since two years back if I'm not wrong.

DAVAJ MKirilenko
Oct 27th, 2008, 06:36 PM
This year she played every tournament she entered and never retired during the match.
So far now it looks like it's not all that serious. But it's hard to say for a longer period cause she's also still young now.

sannyak
Oct 31st, 2008, 06:37 PM
Boys!I this year even leave Budapest frpm Linz,that anew see her live.
Maria still very pretty,her play(I think)better and better be improve,only she no be born under a lucky star.
Now in Lint too,I think each of the match very good play Maria,but nevertheless with bitter aftertaste leave.
In first match Maria was clever,skilful,tactician.She was many a time,to mistake compel for rival.In second set was,one little leaving out,(ball oversight,demand with umpire)but hereafter Maria again good play,and good fight and win!
In doubles match also rather Maria was good play because Pennetta very be out of sorts,no was comparable her from Zürich play. At the important points luckily Maria often help for her.At matchpoint,yet Maria stand as a impenetrable bastion by net,was hard,like Rolling Stones...
The Cornet against match also very well to beginn.Not in vain was warm up Van Harpen severely.
Makiri was beginning in match very concentrated.Maria make the most of rival weak the first service's.For Kirilenko was very go well the play,"twinkle",particularly the volley was wonderful!
Beginning the second set was,for Maria 3 breakball,but unfortunately,punctually at which time begin the rival well serve.
I think at which time the match has turned.Instead of 2-0,1-3 was...
Hereafter,for Maria was more and more mistake,hold she himself serve's,fall back her self-confidence.At the end of the set be discovered,that Maria injured.
In pause at care ask was on the leg.
But,unfortunately hereafter not succsere in doing the first set at good form,or break the rival confidence.
Maria were continually,hopeless and desperate.
At matchpoint burst into the match total tension,and disappointment!
She was so much that throw racket somewhere to the ground,that head of racket warp!!!
Then the aften she was take out to bench,again fling racket on the ground,then already the umpire also warn her.Finally the racket in dustbin finish!!!
Poor Maria!Such bad was see,that the great promise's that come to nothing.