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cowking
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:03 PM
Who will win?

Dodoboy.
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:04 PM
Who will win and who is the favourite coming into this match?

Vee leads 4-1. But lost their last meeting in straights.

Nikkiri
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:05 PM
Probably Venus.

dybbuk
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:05 PM
Venus.

doni1212
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:05 PM
Well, either one, I'll be happy. But I think Ana needs it more, so I'll be rooting for her.

frenchie
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:06 PM
Ana

Venus has no confidence in her ground game. She's hitting at Camille Pin's pace and sometimes hit moonballs like Mauresmo!

~Eclipsed~
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:10 PM
Wimbledon will win. :p

Venus will mentally and physically step it up for Ana. Venus likes Ana's pace too, so i'd be suprised if she doesn't bring out her top game against her. :cool:

starin
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:10 PM
Ana

Venus has no confidence in her ground game. She's hitting at Camille Pin's pace and sometimes hit moonballs like Mauresmo!

:haha:

she is hitting quite soft. maybe not at Camille Pin level but "soft" by her standards. I'm not sure who will win cuz watching Venus she's playing awful. She look tired, is making a lot of errors, and moving poorly imo. And Ana usually only struggles against players that overpower her. Give her enough time on her shots and she's deadly. But then again does anyone know how Ana is playing? either way one of these lovely "mini slumping" champions will reach their first final since winning their respective slams. So :bounce:

Dodoboy.
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:14 PM
Ana

Venus has no confidence in her ground game. She's hitting at Camille Pin's pace and sometimes hit moonballs like Mauresmo!

I finally get what you are doing!!!

jonny84
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:17 PM
Venus. Two sets. 6-4 6-4

frenchie
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:19 PM
I finally get what you are doing!!!

You think I'm trying to jinx Venus' opponents:lol:

That's not true. I just don't like what I'm seeing from Venus lately:o

The Daviator
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:20 PM
Gotta say Venus sadly.

Craig.
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:20 PM
I'm going with Ana on this one. Don't know why, but I am. :shrug: Would love to see Venus get to a Tier II final since God knows when (and she has a GREAT chance to do so) but my gut instinct is telling me Ana.

I'm probably wrong though.

Emina.
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:21 PM
Venus!

Noctis
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:24 PM
Sorry But Venus did better today so yh Venus in 2 tight set or not if Ana step up

AnnaK_4ever
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:25 PM
Both play crap at the moment but Venus seems to be very exhausted. Most probably, Ana in straights with Venus hitting 40+ UEs.

Uranium
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:29 PM
Venus in 2, if it goes to 3 then Ana.

Sammm
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:33 PM
Venus isn't playing that bad - she beat Safina in straights and her losses were to in-form players - so she's the slight favourite. It could go either way though.

LindsayRulz
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:36 PM
Venus in two sets.

Marilyn Monheaux
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:42 PM
I say Ana in 2! Don't know why though:o

Cat's Pajamas
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:43 PM
I really don't understand how Venus could be tired. Bitch had a good six days off! :help:

Noctis
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:46 PM
shes not tired,shes just not motivated:shrug:

Demska
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:48 PM
Venus will crush baby gurl :hearts:

HRHoliviasmith
Oct 17th, 2008, 08:58 PM
Venus got this...i hope.

V's a star
Oct 17th, 2008, 09:00 PM
I really don't understand how Venus could be tired. Bitch had a good six days off! :help:

lol exactly how i feel. She probly had a nice couple of days off Europe because she basically didnt play moscow and shud be nice ans ready to take the title :drool: i can hope :)

CrossCourt~Rally
Oct 17th, 2008, 09:02 PM
This should be a close match if Ana plays up to her top 5 ranking. Either way, i think Venus will win in 3 sets. She has looked pretty sharp this week and Ana just seems now to be slowly coming out of her slump :bounce:.

Destiny
Oct 17th, 2008, 09:10 PM
Crush her sprirt

It will be a good boaster for both girls

Talita Kumi
Oct 17th, 2008, 09:17 PM
Anita in 2 :smoke:

RenaSlam.
Oct 17th, 2008, 09:17 PM
Venus 6-4 7-5

SOA_MC
Oct 17th, 2008, 09:25 PM
I don't really care who wins I just want it to be competitive at the least.

olympus28
Oct 17th, 2008, 09:29 PM
I hope it will be Venus but i think it will be Ana.....Why...hmm because Venus is the queen of Drama :sad:

simonsaystennis
Oct 17th, 2008, 09:31 PM
I really think Venus will win this match.

Marcelo.
Oct 17th, 2008, 09:35 PM
Venus 6-4 7-5 :)

LightWarrior
Oct 17th, 2008, 09:37 PM
shes not tired,shes just not motivated:shrug:

Not "motivated" for qulifying for YEC. Yeah, you're so right.:help:

Uranium
Oct 17th, 2008, 09:40 PM
Not "motivated" for qulifying for YEC. Yeah, you're so right.:help:

Franny and Alona aren't the players she wants to be wasting all her energy on, luckily she got a bye this week as well to help with her stamina, Venus said after Alona that she was trying new things and wanted to try to improve.

Volcana
Oct 17th, 2008, 10:03 PM
One os Venus' less discussed advantages over other players is her ability to adjust to inconsistent conditions. It's one reason why she does so well at Wimbledon. Even though the grass there is more manicured than a putting green, it's still a low, variable bounce. And anywhere outdoors, you have to deal with wind and sun.


But play the same opponent on a relatively slow court, with high, consistent bounce, and no variations of wind and sun, and Venus is, well, certainly not just another player, but she's just another top twenty player. It's not that she plays worse indoors, but rather that others play better. Conditions indoors are by far the most consistent, and all the indoor surfaces have a high, true bounce.


Ivanovic in three.

tennisIlove09
Oct 17th, 2008, 10:06 PM
because it's outside a slam, i think ivanovic will win. if this was wimby or the us open, venus would win.
i hope vee will pull it out.

Borislove
Oct 17th, 2008, 10:06 PM
It will be Venus in 2 but however I hope that Ana will raise her level.

They played a really great match here 4 years ago. One of the best rallies of the match
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supermarcel
Oct 17th, 2008, 10:15 PM
Ana in 3.

Cp6uja
Oct 17th, 2008, 10:24 PM
According to this poll results chances is Venus-80% vs Ana-20% :p

In reality it's totaly open match without clear favorite.

joćo.
Oct 17th, 2008, 10:30 PM
Venus in 2.

joćo.
Oct 17th, 2008, 10:30 PM
In reality it's totaly open match without clear favorite.

:rolleyes:

Dave.
Oct 17th, 2008, 10:31 PM
It was this matchup 4 years ago that made me an Ana fan. I'm pleased they will play again and I hope that Ana will get her revenge.

mashamaniac
Oct 18th, 2008, 12:18 AM
Surely vee in straight sets...sth like 6-36-2

@Sweet Cleopatra
Oct 18th, 2008, 12:24 AM
I think venus ...

AcesHigh
Oct 18th, 2008, 12:47 AM
Ana in straight sets. Venus isnt looking great. No wonder she never plays YEC..this is just not her part of the year.

~Cherry*Blossom~
Oct 18th, 2008, 12:56 AM
I really want Venus to win but she has looked terrible all week. She looks tired, her serve has been average this tournament (except for that game she came back from 0-40 in the 2nd set today). Her groundstrokes lack any pace and she still makes errors.

I think Ana will win in two :( Something like 6-4 6-3 :( I hope Venus proves me wrong though!

SOA_MC
Oct 18th, 2008, 01:08 AM
Ana fans think Venus will win

Venus fans think Ana will win

:haha::haha::haha:

Backhand_stille
Oct 18th, 2008, 01:13 AM
Ana

mboyle
Oct 18th, 2008, 01:19 AM
This should be the final. I hope Ana wins because she has been slumping badly. However, i want Venus to qualify for the YEC. I'd be happy either way. All logic says Venus should win, but I keep thinking Ana's going to win in three. It's probably just a stupid feeling though ahha!

mirzalover
Oct 18th, 2008, 01:46 AM
Venus better put her foot in Ana's ass the way ana has been losing lately *I know Venus hasnt been that great either*

V-MAC
Oct 18th, 2008, 01:52 AM
Too hard to call. It seems to be really 50/50 chance for both......ok my head says Ana but my heart says Venus :p

V-MAC
Oct 18th, 2008, 01:54 AM
Ana fans think Venus will win

Venus fans think Ana will win

:haha::haha::haha:

:lol: I can understand this way of thinking though

AcesHigh
Oct 18th, 2008, 02:57 AM
Just to say... I think Venus and Ana have some of the coolest fan bases out there. This match is between two slam winners and marquee players yet the thread has been completely civil with absolutely no trashing whatsoever.

SOA_MC
Oct 18th, 2008, 03:15 AM
Just to say... I think Venus and Ana have some of the coolest fan bases out there. This match is between two slam winners and marquee players yet the thread has been completely civil with absolutely no trashing whatsoever.

That's because neither fan base has any faith that their player will win:haha:

LudwigDvorak
Oct 18th, 2008, 03:16 AM
Well, I'm a Venus fan, and joining the leagues of non-believing Venus fans.

AnnaK's thread kind-of-jinxed Ana. This will be her 8th career title. :sad:

Make me wrong, Vee! She needs this much more.

AcesHigh
Oct 18th, 2008, 03:19 AM
That's because neither fan base has any faith that their player will win:haha:

Shhh ;) I know, but I'd like to believe my explanation for now, haha.. even if it's not the main reason.

MarieC
Oct 18th, 2008, 03:23 AM
I bet Ana comes out strong wins the 1st set 6-4, takes control early in the 2nd set but then falls apart when trying to close out the match and Venus pounces and ends up winning in 3

Serenita
Oct 18th, 2008, 03:25 AM
Venus in 3

Roookie
Oct 18th, 2008, 03:28 AM
It would be another error fest from both players but intersting to watch anyway, since their last meeting was at this year AO. They both know they gotta play the best they can. Somehow i think Ana will win this match and take the title. I'm just another dreamer.

BuTtErFrEnA
Oct 18th, 2008, 03:39 AM
gotta root for ana :bounce:

duhcity
Oct 18th, 2008, 03:45 AM
They will both error their way through the first two sets.

Im thinking Ana coming out to a 5-2 lead, before Venus gets it back to 5-5, then losing the next to games giving the set to Ana.
Ana then leads in the second, maybe 3-0, before Venus wins it, probably 6-4.
Whoever makes less errors wins the third in a probably tiebreak.

Brooks.
Oct 18th, 2008, 04:04 AM
I think this will be the win that gets Ana back on track. I expect her to win this tournament and have a great showing @ the YEC.

Venus can't win tournaments outside of Wimbledon. Sad but true.

kwilliams
Oct 18th, 2008, 05:24 AM
^ This is the perfect opportunity for her to reverse the trend though!

I've never seen Venus fans so faithless. Her play really can't be all that bad. I know this match is a toss up. Which player will get it together first but Venus played a good weak in Stuttgart and I don't think her level could be that much lower now if neither Bondarenko or Schiavone could take advantage. I think and hope Venus wins and I hope she improves her form to earn back a little faith from her fans.

Also this could be a good revenge tournament for her. Ivanovic for the AO and Pennetta for Stuttgart, FO and Bangkok! She really needs a win against Pennetta!!!

louisa.
Oct 18th, 2008, 05:29 AM
venus.

friendsita
Oct 18th, 2008, 05:34 AM
all the way V

Davodus
Oct 18th, 2008, 05:34 AM
I hope ana wins but i'm not confident she will

could easily go either way, although on form venus will probably win

Dinayer
Oct 18th, 2008, 07:33 AM
Hopefully Ana :)

freeandlonely
Oct 18th, 2008, 08:09 AM
Ana

Marionated
Oct 18th, 2008, 08:13 AM
Venus 6-4 7-5

-NAJ-
Oct 18th, 2008, 08:38 AM
Ana 6-3 6-1

дalex
Oct 18th, 2008, 08:47 AM
I won't vote 'cos I really have no idea who will win this. :shrug:
I've only seen Venus play this week and it's not good. If she finds her Stuttgart form she should win. If not, Ana will win and probably in straight sets.
I hope they both raise their levels and show us some good tennis.

Destiny
Oct 18th, 2008, 08:55 AM
venus :woohoo:

MaBaker
Oct 18th, 2008, 08:59 AM
Hopefully Venus 2-1 :angel: ufe 47-58

Dodoboy.
Oct 18th, 2008, 09:10 AM
Nobody thinks their favs will win~!

Well i do!

Go Vee!

adrovi
Oct 18th, 2008, 09:13 AM
Ana in 3 sets

bandabou
Oct 18th, 2008, 09:41 AM
Yeah, Vee did look tired the other day...interesting match.

Nemo_Kool
Oct 18th, 2008, 09:55 AM
wow so much for the veelieving thread! i think Venus will win...sure she hasn't played her best tennis or anywhere near it, but nearly everytime she was broken she broke STRAIGHT back and if she is playing as terrible as everyone has said why has she not lost a set....I wish it was a final though...

Marshmallow
Oct 18th, 2008, 11:51 AM
^ This is the perfect opportunity for her to reverse the trend though!

I've never seen Venus fans so faithless. Her play really can't be all that bad. I know this match is a toss up. Which player will get it together first but Venus played a good weak in Stuttgart and I don't think her level could be that much lower now if neither Bondarenko or Schiavone could take advantage. I think and hope Venus wins and I hope she improves her form to earn back a little faith from her fans.

Also this could be a good revenge tournament for her. Ivanovic for the AO and Pennetta for Stuttgart, FO and Bangkok! She really needs a win against Pennetta!!!

wow so much for the veelieving thread! i think Venus will win...sure she hasn't played her best tennis or anywhere near it, but nearly everytime she was broken she broke STRAIGHT back and if she is playing as terrible as everyone has said why has she not lost a set....I wish it was a final though...

Totally agree with you guys, I was a bit stunned by how many Vee fans were writing 'depressed' comments. I thought Vee looked tired in Stuggart too, she was really huffing and puffing early on - and then look what she did to Safina *moment of silence for Safina*. Venus tends to up her game against better players, and I expect her to put in a stronger performance today. While I do think she was patchy in the previous rounds, she had patches of great play, that good tennis is right there is she needs to summon it. I think Venus will come through in straight sets, possibly 3 if Ana comes out guns blazing, because you just know Venus will adapt!

Nobody thinks their favs will win~!

Well i do!

Go Vee!

I Veelieve. But I think the voting pattern reflects the healthy respect fans groups have for the other player. I like them both, and know that both can turn it on and seem unbeatable, or go OFF!

But I think Venus will win.

cn ireland
Oct 18th, 2008, 02:12 PM
Venus in 2:D!

Marshmallow
Oct 18th, 2008, 07:56 PM
Veelievers :rocker2:

Destiny
Oct 18th, 2008, 07:58 PM
Ana

Venus has no confidence in her ground game. She's hitting at Camille Pin's pace and sometimes hit moonballs like Mauresmo!

:lol: