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LudwigDvorak
Sep 24th, 2008, 05:36 PM
Seoul 1988:
2R - Graf def. Meshki 75 61
3R - Graf def. Suire 63 60
QF - Graf def. Neiland 62 46 63
SF - Graf def. Garrison 62 60
F - Graf def. Sabatini 63 63

Barcelona 1992:
1R - Capriati def. Reinach 61 60
2R - Capriati def. Tarabini 64 61
3R - Capriati def. Basuki 63 64
QF - Capriati def. Huber 63 76(1)
SF - Capriati def. Sanchez-Vicario 63 36 61
F - Capriati def. Graf 36 63 64

Atlanta 1996:
1R - Davenport def. Kremer 62 61
2R - Davenport def. Sawamatsu 62 62
3R - Davenport def. Huber 61 36 63
QF - Davenport def. Majoli 75 63
SF - Davenport def. Fernandez 62 76(6)
F - Davenport def. Sanchez-Vicario 76(6) 62

Sydney 2000:
1R - Williams def. Nagyova 62 62
2R - Williams def. Tanasugarn 62 63
3R - Williams def. Kandarr 62 62
QF - Williams def. Sanchez-Vicario 36 62 64
SF - Williams def. Seles 61 46 63
F - Williams def. Dementieva 62 64

Athens 2004:
1R - Henin def. Strycova 63 64
2R - Henin def. Vento-Kabchi 62 61
3R - Henin def. Pratt 61 60
QF - Henin def. Pierce 64 64
SF - Henin def. Myskina 75 57 86
F - Henin def. Mauresmo 63 63

Beijing 2008:
1R - Dementieva def. Bondarenko 61 64
2R - Dementieva def. Arvidsson 63 64
3R - Dementieva def. Wozniacki 76(3) 62
QF - Dementieva def. Williams 36 64 63
SF - Dementieva def. Zvonareva 63 76(3)
F - Dementieva def. Safina 36 75 63

Let's compare and contrast all the gold medalists from 1988-2008. :) I personally find all of them to be very good runs (Graf's probably the weakest, but Garrison/Sabatini are good wins), but which is the one that stands out most?

Discuss other things you find interesting. I couldn't help but notice Sanchez-Vicario lost to the eventual champion three times, poor Arantxa. :sad:

Marionated
Sep 24th, 2008, 05:38 PM
Either Capriati 92 or Dementieva 08.

Dodoboy.
Sep 24th, 2008, 05:39 PM
No one has won without not dropping a set.

I go with Venus because she won doubles as well :)

Nacho
Sep 24th, 2008, 05:53 PM
capriati

^bibi^
Sep 24th, 2008, 05:54 PM
justine :hearts:

Ciarán
Sep 24th, 2008, 06:10 PM
Dementieva 08

Chunchun
Sep 24th, 2008, 06:15 PM
Dementieva - best ever olympian :bowdown:

Direwolf
Sep 24th, 2008, 06:16 PM
First...
Capriati..because she was so young and she defeated Graf!!

then
Henin
Dementieva
Davenport
Venus
Graf..

well.. all of them were amazing actually

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Sep 24th, 2008, 06:18 PM
Capriati

HRHoliviasmith
Sep 24th, 2008, 06:40 PM
Steffi Graf (her Golden Slam year)!

Destiny
Sep 24th, 2008, 06:40 PM
QUEEN VENUS :bowdown:

Conor
Sep 24th, 2008, 06:43 PM
Dementieva 2008

Kart
Sep 24th, 2008, 06:46 PM
Capriati by a mile.

In 1992, Graf and Sanchez-Vicario on clay courts in consecutive matches is a phenomenal achievement for someone of her age.

Uranium
Sep 24th, 2008, 06:49 PM
Venus or Davenport.

homogenius
Sep 24th, 2008, 06:55 PM
Capriati

LindsayRulz
Sep 24th, 2008, 06:58 PM
They are all pretty impressive IMO :shrug:

hotandspicey
Sep 24th, 2008, 07:03 PM
4 out of the 6 are born in June. :eek: I'd say Venus because she made a clean sweep...singles and doubles. :worship: Not an easy feat to accomplish. Also she had just turned 20 and defeated 2 great Grand Slam champions and a future wannabe. :p
j/k I mean a future Gold medalist.

Dave.
Sep 24th, 2008, 07:17 PM
Definetely Queen Linds. She was the lowest ranked of them all when she won, and was marginally overweight, and came through to defeat Fernandez and Sanchez-Vicario having had bad records against both. She was not already a proven champion, or looked at as a potential champion/contender by most people.

HRHoliviasmith
Sep 24th, 2008, 07:30 PM
4 out of the 6 are born in June. :eek: I'd say Venus because she made a clean sweep...singles and doubles. :worship: Not an easy feat to accomplish. Also she had just turned 20 and defeated 2 great Grand Slam champions and a future wannabe. :p j/k I mean a future Gold medalist.

:lol: :lol: now that I think about it Venus should have gotten my vote but Steffi really impressed me with her feat.

faboozadoo15
Sep 24th, 2008, 07:33 PM
Jennifer by a bit. Sanchez Vicario and Graf back to back on clay is sick. It gets even nuttier when you consider how inexperienced she was compared to her competitors.

shap_half
Sep 24th, 2008, 07:41 PM
Justine

Diagnosed with CMV, hadn't played for a couple of months and goes on a tear in Athens, including a mammoth win over Myskina and a beating on Mauresmo.

slydevil6142
Sep 24th, 2008, 07:50 PM
As much as it pains me to say this ... Justine run is the most impressive. She was out almost all of 2004 with her viral infection comes back not only from sickness but 1-5 down to Myskina in the third and defeated Momo and Pierce ( who beat Venus and would go on to make 2 slam finals the following year).

Meteor Shower
Sep 24th, 2008, 08:08 PM
Usain Bolt

lolas
Sep 24th, 2008, 08:23 PM
Definitely not Jen. Monica wasn't in the draw that year and it was on clay. Oops, poor logic. I go with Jen.

TennisFanForever
Sep 24th, 2008, 08:24 PM
Justine run is the most impressive. She was out almost all of 2004 with her viral infection comes back not only from sickness but 1-5 down to Myskina in the third and defeated Momo and Pierce ( who beat Venus and would go on to make 2 slam finals the following year).

nothing more to say.

Justine :worship:

mboyle
Sep 24th, 2008, 08:35 PM
Capriati by a mile.

In 1992, Graf and Sanchez-Vicario on clay courts in consecutive matches is a phenomenal achievement for someone of her age.

And ASV was playing in her hometown!!!

améliemomo
Sep 24th, 2008, 08:39 PM
capriati for all the great players she beat and at such a young age I say :worship:

then I say Henin.She beat great players who played great and above all were slam winners.(pierce and myskina).

mboyle
Sep 24th, 2008, 08:42 PM
Or we can look at it this way: Number of grand slams won by the players beaten (at the time/eventually):

Graf--0/1
Capriati--12/26!
Davenport--3/4
Williams--13/13
Henin-3/5
Dementieva-8/9

Capriati seems to me to be the clear winner, Williams the clear second (because neither Moncia nor ASV was in her prime at the time, whereas both Steffi and ASV were in their prime and on their best surfaces in 92 in Barcelona.)

AcesHigh
Sep 24th, 2008, 10:03 PM
Capriati by far

-sugi-
Sep 24th, 2008, 10:34 PM
Looking at it from todays perspective, I think Davenport. Every player she faced has made the top 20 at some point in their career:

Anne Kremer career high #18
Naoko Sawamatsu #14
Anke Huber #4
Iva Majoli #4
Mary-Joe Fernandez #4
Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario #1

G-Ha
Sep 24th, 2008, 10:39 PM
capriati, in terms of level of competition defeated en route to the gold. but steffi graf's win in '88 will always be the standout: first year tennis was re-introduced as a medal event at the olympics and because it was part of steffi's historic golden slam year.

hankqq
Sep 24th, 2008, 11:07 PM
All are impressive.

For me it's Capriati, then Venus then Graf.

AnnaK_4ever
Sep 25th, 2008, 07:40 AM
Capriati, then Henin, then Davenport.
2000 Olympics draw was pretty weak, 1988 wasn't that great either.

ZeroSOFInfinity
Sep 25th, 2008, 08:36 AM
Seoul 1988:
2R - Graf def. Meshki 75 61
3R - Graf def. Suire 63 60
QF - Graf def. Neiland 62 46 63
SF - Graf def. Garrison 62 60
F - Graf def. Sabatini 63 63

The "Golden Slam" - but Sabatini is the only major obstacle for Graf....

Barcelona 1992:
1R - Capriati def. Reinach 61 60
2R - Capriati def. Tarabini 64 61
3R - Capriati def. Basuki 63 64
QF - Capriati def. Huber 63 76(1)
SF - Capriati def. Sanchez-Vicario 63 36 61
F - Capriati def. Graf 36 63 64

Beating ASV and Graf ON CLAY.... :worship::worship::worship:


Atlanta 1996:
1R - Davenport def. Kremer 62 61
2R - Davenport def. Sawamatsu 62 62
3R - Davenport def. Huber 61 36 63
QF - Davenport def. Majoli 75 63
SF - Davenport def. Fernandez 62 76(6)
F - Davenport def. Sanchez-Vicario 76(6) 62

Least impressive in my opinion....


Sydney 2000:
1R - Williams def. Nagyova 62 62
2R - Williams def. Tanasugarn 62 63
3R - Williams def. Kandarr 62 62
QF - Williams def. Sanchez-Vicario 36 62 64
SF - Williams def. Seles 61 46 63
F - Williams def. Dementieva 62 64

Beating ASV, Seles and Dementieva to win gold is by all means an amazing feat, but....


Athens 2004:
1R - Henin def. Strycova 63 64
2R - Henin def. Vento-Kabchi 62 61
3R - Henin def. Pratt 61 60
QF - Henin def. Pierce 64 64
SF - Henin def. Myskina 75 57 86
F - Henin def. Mauresmo 63 63

... beating Pierce, Myskina and on-form Mauresmo after being down with a virus and out of the tour for months is better. Still, Capriati's effort is the best. :p


Beijing 2008:
1R - Dementieva def. Bondarenko 61 64
2R - Dementieva def. Arvidsson 63 64
3R - Dementieva def. Wozniacki 76(3) 62
QF - Dementieva def. Williams 36 64 63
SF - Dementieva def. Zvonareva 63 76(3)
F - Dementieva def. Safina 36 75 63

Excellent effort by Elena, but had not Serena crumbled in the 2nd set against her, and Safina losing it after the 2nd set tiebreak, she might have not won the gold. But good players know how to take their chances when given to them... and Elena is one.


So, to recap...

Capriati > Justine > Venus = Elena > Graf > Davenport

VRee_Willario
Sep 25th, 2008, 10:43 AM
Venus and then Justine maybe.
I haven't seen the Jenny vs Arantxa match but Arantxa didn't seem to give a lot of fight in the 3rd set for some reason, unusual for her and especially as this is her surface. She must have been tired. :awww:

Lindsayfan32
Sep 25th, 2008, 11:39 AM
Lindsay beat 4 higher seeds and beat Sanchez for the first time. Enough said. :)

vettipooh
Sep 25th, 2008, 11:51 AM
Venus...she beat Dementieva when Elena was red hot and with a serve :eek: Plus Grand Slam champs ASV and Seles.

Adal
Sep 25th, 2008, 11:53 AM
Henin.

heart
Sep 25th, 2008, 01:25 PM
justine:worship:

Kworb
Sep 25th, 2008, 01:28 PM
Elena Dementieva, because I love her the most.

HRHoliviasmith
Sep 25th, 2008, 01:37 PM
Venus...she beat Dementieva when Elena was red hot and with a serve :eek: Plus Grand Slam champs ASV and Seles.

surely this was before I was born :eek:

Emina.
Sep 25th, 2008, 01:38 PM
Lena :worship:

AcesHigh
Sep 25th, 2008, 01:49 PM
:spit: at Elena with 18 votes...and Venus with 21 :lol:

I don't see why Capriati is running away with this poll.

miffedmax
Sep 25th, 2008, 02:16 PM
No one has won without not dropping a set.

I go with Venus because she won doubles as well :)

That, and look at who she had to beat in the finals!!!!!

(But I voted for Lena anyway:p)

shirley
Sep 25th, 2008, 03:31 PM
jennifer capriati gets my vote

alias
Sep 25th, 2008, 03:43 PM
Jennifer Capriati

Havok
Sep 25th, 2008, 04:14 PM
All are pretty damn impressive, but it would be Capriati, then Henin imo.

Dave.
Sep 25th, 2008, 04:21 PM
Actually reading back, I have to say Jen's run beating Graf/ASV on clay back to back is pretty special. Either her or Lindsay had the best run IMO.

PointBlank
Sep 25th, 2008, 05:53 PM
jennifer.

her age, plus the surface, and beating asv and graf back to back.

ridiculously amazing.

hurricanejeanne
Sep 25th, 2008, 06:46 PM
Jennifer Capriati, beating Sanchez-Vicario and Graf back to back on such a big stage on clay is insane.
Then I'd say Davenport, followed by Henin.

LudwigDvorak
Sep 25th, 2008, 07:00 PM
Garrison/Sabatini
Huber/Sanchez-Vicario/Graf
Huber/Majoli/Fernandez/Sanchez-Vicario
Sanchez-Vicario/Seles/Dementieva
Pierce/Myskina/Mauresmo
Williams/Zvonareva/Safina

Davenport's the only one with four notable names, but it's a tough test between her, Capriati and Williams for me now. I think I'm going to go with Williams. ASV and Dementieva are incredible Olympic wins and Seles is always an amazing win.

But definite honorable mention to Capriati for that effort. But if I'm going to include the whole run, Venus' edges out Jen's there. But Graf/Sanchez-Vicario is definitely bigger than Seles/Sanchez-Vicario if we're only going to include the biggest wins.

DA FOREHAND
Sep 25th, 2008, 08:01 PM
Steffi hands down it capped the best season ever.

Michaelz
Sep 25th, 2008, 08:05 PM
venus 00

Danči Dementia
Sep 25th, 2008, 08:06 PM
Dementieva :) :worship:

mboyle
Sep 25th, 2008, 08:22 PM
:spit: at Elena with 18 votes...and Venus with 21 :lol:

I don't see why Capriati is running away with this poll.

I don't see why she's not running away with it. She beat Steffi freaking Graf on clay at age 16.

Kart
Sep 25th, 2008, 10:16 PM
I think the poll results are pretty accurate though I think Steffi's win is underrated. She was amazing in 1988.

I never really rated Lindsay's run in the sense that she was clear favourite against all the people she beat. Ditto for Justine whose CMV was clearly not a factor judging by the way she played (plus Myskina let her off the hook.)

Didn't really watch Dementieva much but anyone that beats Serena Williams on a hard court in major competition is clearly no amateur !

AcesHigh
Sep 25th, 2008, 10:23 PM
ASV and Seles in 2000 and then beating Dementieva who had never even reached a tour final!!! is not that impressive. Beating Vera Zvonereva, Dinara Safina and Serena Williams 2008 is NOT that impressive.

Beating STEFFI F*CKING GRAF and ASV in 1992! on clay!!! is incredibly impressive. No one else on the list even compares.

Dave.
Sep 25th, 2008, 10:31 PM
I think the poll results are pretty accurate though I think Steffi's win is underrated. She was amazing in 1988.

I never really rated Lindsay's run in the sense that she was clear favourite against all the people she beat. Ditto for Justine whose CMV was clearly not a factor judging by the way she played (plus Myskina let her off the hook.)

Didn't really watch Dementieva much but anyone that beats Serena Williams on a hard court in major competition is clearly no amateur !

How so? She was 0-5 against ASV before the final. She had never won a title above Tier III and was ranked just inside the top 10 (9 or 10 I think) -only gold medalist to be ranked that low.

Kart
Sep 25th, 2008, 11:03 PM
Ok maybe 'clear favourite' was pushing it a bit. However, those stats really underplay how well Lindsay was playing in 1996 compared to the year before.

1996 as I remember it was the year that Lindsay showed she really was capable of beating the top players. I'm not talking about ASV who had been eclipsed by the return of Seles, I'm talking about Seles and Graf. I can't remember if she actually beat either of them but she had pushed them far in tight matches in the season running up to the Olympics.

Lots of people picked her to beat ASV on home soil. I know Arantxa wasn't exactly competition to be taken lightly but really, her game was always vulnerable to power on a fast court and Lindsay had the game to exploit that. Particularly as that was in the days when she was upcoming and fearless without the burden of expectation she carried after she got to no.1.

Serenita
Sep 25th, 2008, 11:17 PM
i loved Venus run.

vettipooh
Sep 25th, 2008, 11:18 PM
ASV and Seles in 2000 and then beating Dementieva who had never even reached a tour final!!! is not that impressive. Beating Vera Zvonereva, Dinara Safina and Serena Williams 2008 is NOT that impressive.

Beating STEFFI F*CKING GRAF and ASV in 1992! on clay!!! is incredibly impressive. No one else on the list even compares.

There you go again, dissing Venus and her accomplishments.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Fake ass fan.:rolleyes: You're a real UT.:rolleyes:

Matt01
Sep 25th, 2008, 11:35 PM
There you go again, dissing Venus and her accomplishments.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Fake ass fan.:rolleyes: You're a real UT.:rolleyes:


:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Venus had an easier run to the title than most of the other OG Champions. Deal with it :wavey:

:worship: Capriati :worship:

LudwigDvorak
Sep 25th, 2008, 11:45 PM
Venus' run wasn't that easy at all. ASV, Seles, and Dementieva are all tough competitors, regardless of the year. Two are all-time greats and Dementieva's an Olympic juggernaut, plus it was one of her best seasons that year as well.

I can see why someone would say it was relatively easier, but only Capriati's SF/F wins eclipse what Venus did, I think.

vettipooh
Sep 26th, 2008, 12:12 AM
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Venus had an easier run to the title than most of the other OG Champions. Deal with it :wavey:

:worship: Capriati :worship:

You can roll those eyes right back in that bigoted brain of yours.

Venus' run wasn't that easy at all. ASV, Seles, and Dementieva are all tough competitors, regardless of the year. Two are all-time greats and Dementieva's an Olympic juggernaut, plus it was one of her best seasons that year as well.

I can see why someone would say it was relatively easier, but only Capriati's SF/F wins eclipse what Venus did, I think.

Thank you! :worship:

AcesHigh
Sep 26th, 2008, 01:48 AM
There you go again, dissing Venus and her accomplishments.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Fake ass fan.:rolleyes: You're a real UT.:rolleyes:

Um...it's called reality. I'm sorry if I don't live in an alternate universe.
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Venus had an easier run to the title than most of the other OG Champions. Deal with it :wavey:

:worship: Capriati :worship:

Thank you

Venus' run wasn't that easy at all. ASV, Seles, and Dementieva are all tough competitors, regardless of the year. Two are all-time greats and Dementieva's an Olympic juggernaut, plus it was one of her best seasons that year as well.

I can see why someone would say it was relatively easier, but only Capriati's SF/F wins eclipse what Venus did, I think.

Dementieva had never even reached a final.. are you saying she was a tough competitor just because of her name? She was a "good" player, but nothing great. She definitely wasn't better IMHO than Myskina or Mauresmo at their peak. ASV was near retirement and Seles was definitely over her slam winning days.

Davenport's run wasn't that impressive either, but at least she faced ASV in her prime.

IMHO, it's Capriati>>>>Henin>Venus=Davenport>Elena

LudwigDvorak
Sep 26th, 2008, 01:59 AM
Elena did get most improved player award in 2000. It was her first final, but would it be a better win somehow if it were a QF or a SF? The round makes no matter to me, IMO.

Elena was a pretty good win in 2000, and I think Seles and Sanchez-Vicario are names that are timeless, excellent wins regardless of the time. ASV had been top ten that year, and I'm sure Seles was too.

But I already specified...in comparison to the other runs, only Capriati's wins over Graf/Sanchez-Vicario are TRULY truly special. Henin's wins over Myskina and Mauresmo were great, but who was Amelie at that point by your logic? A nobody, so we're left with Myskina, and by your logic you'd find something negative there too.

Ryan
Sep 26th, 2008, 02:22 AM
Uh, definitely Capriati from my perspective. Beating ASV and Graf B2B on clay in the early 90's is...sick! Especially rallying after losing the first set to Graf is really impressive.

Second I'd put Venus, then Dementieva, then Lindsay, then Justine and Steffi.

Ryan
Sep 26th, 2008, 02:22 AM
But I give mad props to Graf for winning the Olympics AFTER winning all 4 slams. :worship:

AcesHigh
Sep 26th, 2008, 02:26 AM
Elena did get most improved player award in 2000. It was her first final, but would it be a better win somehow if it were a QF or a SF? The round makes no matter to me, IMO.

Elena was a pretty good win in 2000, and I think Seles and Sanchez-Vicario are names that are timeless, excellent wins regardless of the time. ASV had been top ten that year, and I'm sure Seles was too.

But I already specified...in comparison to the other runs, only Capriati's wins over Graf/Sanchez-Vicario are TRULY truly special. Henin's wins over Myskina and Mauresmo were great, but who was Amelie at that point by your logic? A nobody, so we're left with Myskina, and by your logic you'd find something negative there too.

I'm not saying they're nobodies.. but in comparison to Mauresmo who had her second-best year in 2004 with 3 Tier I titles, the #1 ranking, and a 59-11 record that year and then Myskina who won the French with her best year on tour. I don't get this timeless thing.. beating Serena Williams at Wimbledon seems timeless right? So I guess Jill Craybas's win in 2005 was a huge achievement. The context is really important.

Obviously beating Seles is no easy win(she was a top 5, top 10 player even towards the end). However, MOnica at the end of her career is not hte same as Monica at the beginning of her career or even mid-late 90s. There's a reason the top players all had very lopsided H2H's against her.

I look at it this way. Were ASV, Monica and Elena top 5 players? Were they threatening for slams? Were they wracking up Tier I's and II's? Were they in their prime? And the answer is no for all of those.

EDIT: My mistake, Monica was top 5 in 2000, despite not making a slam semi, the year was dominated by Hingis, Davenport and Venus with the rest picking up the scraps.

LudwigDvorak
Sep 26th, 2008, 03:13 AM
Seles DID win YEC that year, beating Dementieva in the semifinals. Guess that wasn't much of a win since it wasn't Davenport or Venus? (She did beat Hingis in the final if I recall correctly.)

I see what you mean. But I just can't analyze it that far. ASV and Seles are great wins, Dementieva is a good win. It's a pretty good road. I'm not saying it's supercalifragilisticexpialidocious or however you spell it, but it wasn't some cakewalk, with Venus beating slumping nobodies. I just can't quite see your side this time, but I do see your point you're trying to make. :)

Malva
Sep 26th, 2008, 03:18 AM
Either Capriati 92 or Dementieva 08.

The same impression.

Battletoad
Sep 26th, 2008, 11:10 AM
surely this was before I was born :eek:
Yeah, based on your posts, I think you are not older than 7. :hearts:

Kart
Sep 26th, 2008, 12:33 PM
Obviously beating Seles is no easy win(she was a top 5, top 10 player even towards the end). However, MOnica at the end of her career is not hte same as Monica at the beginning of her career or even mid-late 90s. There's a reason the top players all had very lopsided H2H's against her.

I look at it this way. Were ASV, Monica and Elena top 5 players? Were they threatening for slams? Were they wracking up Tier I's and II's? Were they in their prime? And the answer is no for all of those.

EDIT: My mistake, Monica was top 5 in 2000, despite not making a slam semi, the year was dominated by Hingis, Davenport and Venus with the rest picking up the scraps.
I think you're rather underplaying Monica in 2000. She won a tier I in Rome from what I remember and was one of the favourites going into the French. Had she not lost to eventual champion Pierce, whether she could have beaten Martina in the semis I don't know but she had managed to dismantle her there in 1998 so it was not impossible. That's not even considering how she played the following year in the hard court summer where she was threatening everyone. She pushed Venus in the Olympic semi to produce her best and I believe she had her chance to win on a Rebound Ace court that she's always been extremely accomplished on.

I wouldn't even have underestimated ASV on a slow court like that - she'd thrashed Venus in Paris the same year.

So I think Venus had some stiff competition to overcome to take her title. Though she was perhaps at her all time best during that period so it was hard to pick anyone over her to win the title.
Seles DID win YEC that year, beating Dementieva in the semifinals. Guess that wasn't much of a win since it wasn't Davenport or Venus? (She did beat Hingis in the final if I recall correctly.)

I see what you mean. But I just can't analyze it that far. ASV and Seles are great wins, Dementieva is a good win. It's a pretty good road. I'm not saying it's supercalifragilisticexpialidocious or however you spell it, but it wasn't some cakewalk, with Venus beating slumping nobodies. I just can't quite see your side this time, but I do see your point you're trying to make. :)
Monica lost in the final to Martina. The semi with Elena was tight in the second but I'm not sure Elena was anywhere near as good as she was going to be. She was a real surprise semi finalist at the US open so I'm not sure how much of a threat she was ever going to be to Venus.

AcesHigh
Sep 26th, 2008, 04:10 PM
ASV and Seles are great wins, Dementieva is a good win. It's a pretty good road. I'm not saying it's supercalifragilisticexpialidocious or however you spell it, but it wasn't some cakewalk, with Venus beating slumping nobodies.

I totally agree with this. I'm not saying it was easy.. I guess i'm just putting it in comparison to Capriati and Henin. And the more I think about it.. the better the wins look. I'd just still put Capriati's win way ahead and Henin's slightly ahead.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Sep 26th, 2008, 04:55 PM
Yeah, based on your posts, I think you are not older than 7. :hearts:

:lol: :haha:

delicatecutter
Sep 26th, 2008, 05:06 PM
I have to go with J-Cap. I'm still pissed that she beat Steffi.