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nabfunky
Sep 20th, 2008, 07:27 PM
in terms of impact for the next few months, maybe even the year.

the following five immediately come to mind:

jelena's loss to henin at the uso 2006.
henin's loss to masha at the ao 2008.
s. williams' loss to masha at w 2004.
masha's loss to s. williams at the ao 2007.
ivanovic's loss to zheng at w 2008.

which of these do you think have had the most impact? is there any other match you can think of that might involve your favourite player?

Geisha
Sep 20th, 2008, 07:28 PM
Hingis' loss to Serena or Graf 1999.

Ciarán
Sep 20th, 2008, 07:29 PM
ivanovic's loss to zheng at w 2008

Adal
Sep 20th, 2008, 07:30 PM
Sharapova's loss to Loit at USO 2003.

Destiny
Sep 20th, 2008, 07:31 PM
s. williams' loss to masha at w 2004.

DavaiDina
Sep 20th, 2008, 07:39 PM
Jeka's loss to Ivanovic at this year's RG semifinal :awww:

Craig.
Sep 20th, 2008, 07:41 PM
Maria Sharapova def. Marta Domachowska 7-5 5-7 6-2 -- 2008 Montreal R2.

LudwigDvorak
Sep 20th, 2008, 07:41 PM
There are very few traumatic, truly, losses for players. Most rebound well and move on with their careers.

Myskina's loss to Henin in Athens is probably the biggest example I can come up with. Nothing else named so far truly strikes me as "traumatic," bar Hingis' loss to Graf in that FO F.

dybbuk
Sep 20th, 2008, 07:42 PM
Ana loss to Zheng wasn't traumatic, she had been awful the entire tournament. It wasn't that loss that made her start playing bad.

HRHoliviasmith
Sep 20th, 2008, 07:44 PM
serena's loss to maria sharapova was devestating to me, forget serena. i still haven't gotten over it! :fiery:

dinara's loss to demented - 2008 Olympic GoLd Medal match

Olórin
Sep 20th, 2008, 07:47 PM
s. williams' loss to masha at w 2004.

Agreed, we can only guess as to what exactly that loss did to Serena, but I think it was definitely her most humiliating and probably the one she regrets the most. She would have been the only woman since Steffi Graf to win three Wimbledons in a row. As it is she hasn't won it since Masha snapped her 20 match winning streak there. I really think that loss was a catalyst to a few other big losses that season where Serena started strongly but began to doubt herself at some stage.

Uranium
Sep 20th, 2008, 07:47 PM
Venus losing to Mauresmo at 2003 Warsaw, because she severely injured her abdominal which affected her the rest of the year and maybe even her career:(
Venus losing to Myskina at 2004 French, that was her year to win it:sobbing:

Graf~Dokic
Sep 20th, 2008, 07:47 PM
Virginie Razzano def. Jelena Dokic 3-6 7-6 6-1 at AO 2006... :( :bigcry: :bigcry:

Ryan
Sep 20th, 2008, 07:49 PM
There are very few traumatic, truly, losses for players. Most rebound well and move on with their careers.

Myskina's loss to Henin in Athens is probably the biggest example I can come up with. Nothing else named so far truly strikes me as "traumatic," bar Hingis' loss to Graf in that FO F.




:sobbing: I have a couple more. The 1999 FO loss to Graf - absolutely, but her loss to Serena in the USO Final that year is equally bad IMO. She played an awesome match to beat Venus in the Semis and had a set point in the second set!! before folding. I think if she won that match the FO loss wouldn't be seen nearly as bad.

2001 AO Final - Hingis owned Cappy until this point, and was on an uber-high after beating the Sisters back to back. Epic fail for the rest of 2001.

2002 AO Final - If Martina won this match I think she would have played at least two more years on tour. I think she would have taken the full time to heal from her ankle injury instead of rushing back and trying to play in the US Open and it would have healed fully/better.


:sobbing:

leannenufc
Sep 20th, 2008, 07:49 PM
JJ tends to bounce back from bad defeats pretty well, but the loss to Ana at RG this year was a bad one. Never mind Jelena, I don't think I've recovered from that one yet...

Aaron.
Sep 20th, 2008, 07:50 PM
Henin def Serena 2003 RG Semi
Capriati def Serena 2004 US open QF

égalité
Sep 20th, 2008, 07:52 PM
The 2002 AO Final. A billion times worse than the 1999 RG final.

After she lost to Jen, she looked like she knew her career was over. I'd never seen her want a win so badly.

dybbuk
Sep 20th, 2008, 07:54 PM
:sobbing: I have a couple more. The 1999 FO loss to Graf - absolutely, but her loss to Serena in the USO Final that year is equally bad IMO. She played an awesome match to beat Venus in the Semis and had a set point in the second set!! before folding. I think if she won that match the FO loss wouldn't be seen nearly as bad.

2001 AO Final - Hingis owned Cappy until this point, and was on an uber-high after beating the Sisters back to back. Epic fail for the rest of 2001.

2002 AO Final - If Martina won this match I think she would have played at least two more years on tour. I think she would have taken the full time to heal from her ankle injury instead of rushing back and trying to play in the US Open and it would have healed fully/better.


:sobbing:

I would add the 2000 USO SF too. It was a match that showed she had the skills to beat the power players when they were playing well, but also showed she was too mentally fragile against them at times. Then that led into losing to another power player at the Australian.

Ryan
Sep 20th, 2008, 07:57 PM
I would add the 2000 USO SF too. It was a match that showed she had the skills to beat the power players when they were playing well, but also showed she was too mentally fragile against them at times. Then that led into losing to another power player at the Australian.


Oh shit son, I honestly forgot that one. :eek: :sobbing: So many bad memories...

Wonderlander
Sep 20th, 2008, 07:59 PM
For Nadia it surely was her loss to Serena at AO-2007

Olórin
Sep 20th, 2008, 08:01 PM
and had a set point in the second set!! before folding.

She had a set point on Serena's serve, which was after Serena had match points at 5-3. With all respect to Hingis she was lucky not to lose 63 63. I don't see how it can be that scarring a loss, when she pretty much played second fiddle from the start of the match :shrug:

You can't pick every close, upsetting match :p Same players just lose more than their share of close ones.

I would say for Hingis the two that you could really say were those two Grand Slam Finals where she came so close to winning. I agree that the 2002 AO was far worse for her.

debopero
Sep 20th, 2008, 08:11 PM
No one is going to agree with me BUT... I think Serena's was her lost to Justine Henin at Roland Garros 2007. She had had a good year up until that match (save for bad losses to Sybille and Patty) and then she just stepped out on court like she had never played a match on clay before.

Venus is one of the only players that I can think of, who is able to bounce back after bad losses so I can not say that she has had a most traumatic loss.

RJWCapriati
Sep 20th, 2008, 08:14 PM
1991 U.S. Open SF - Seles defs Capriati 6-3, 3-6, 7-6
2003 U.S. Open SF - Henin-Hardenne defs Capriati 4-6, 7-5, 7-6
2004 U.S. Open SF - Dementieva defs Capriati 6-0, 2-6, 7-6

Lucemferre
Sep 20th, 2008, 08:14 PM
2004 Wimbledon final? :o Serena won 3 majors after that. She doesn't really have any traumatic losses. She is currently no1 and just won a major :tape: Traumatic loss should be a career defining match like French Open 99 final or Athens 04 semifinal. Hingis never won a major after that and Myskina's career went downhill really fast after her loss.

Lucemferre
Sep 20th, 2008, 08:21 PM
Henin def Serena 2003 RG Semi

:o

It was so traumatic that she won the next major by beating Henin on the way :spit:

nabfunky
Sep 20th, 2008, 09:21 PM
For Nadia it surely was her loss to Serena at AO-2007

absolutely right. nadia was up 6-1 5-3 :(. she was never the same player after that.

Marshmallow
Sep 20th, 2008, 09:58 PM
Venus - Antwerp 2005 Final to Mauresmo. 4-2 up in the third, almost had that diamond encrusted racket... :sobbing:

Disgusting thread!

Uranium
Sep 20th, 2008, 10:00 PM
Venus - Antwerp 2005 Final to Mauresmo. 4-2 up in the third, almost had that diamond encrusted racket... :sobbing:

Disgusting thread!

wasn't she up 5-3 in the second as well or 4-2 there too, I can't and don't want to remember the exact details, but still:sad:

Il Primo!
Sep 20th, 2008, 10:13 PM
Venus - Antwerp 2005 Final to Mauresmo. 4-2 up in the third, almost had that diamond encrusted racket... :sobbing:

Disgusting thread!

4-2 up in the latest two sets dude!

I was so, so mad at her. I mean, seing my ultimate fav choking the match away to my ultimate most hated player of all time and era was just helluva painful :sobbing:

And we can add this quarter lost to Serena in NY this year :rolleyes:

bestseller
Sep 20th, 2008, 10:13 PM
Venus losing to Momo for that racket in Belgium

Marshmallow
Sep 20th, 2008, 10:16 PM
I think it was 4-2 up, then lost 6-4. I feel horrible actually cos I was rooting for Momo in that match (she hadn't won a Slam or anything). I feel responsible to this day :bigcry: - Forgive me Vee and Veelievers.

But I think it was 4-2.

VishaalMaria
Sep 20th, 2008, 10:34 PM
Venus was up 6-4 5-3 with Mauresmo serving, Mauresmo held to 15, and then broke Venus to love after Venus hit 2 double faults.

In the third set, Venus was up 4-2, had three chances to go up 5-2 but was too tentative. Mauresmo won the next four games, in that fourth game she won, she hit a forehand, it clipped the net, and forced Venus to move to the net. Mauresmo then passed her for the win.

So so sooooooooo painful :(

Marshmallow
Sep 20th, 2008, 10:39 PM
Venus was up 6-4 5-3 with Mauresmo serving, Mauresmo held to 15, and then broke Venus to love after Venus hit 2 double faults.

In the third set, Venus was up 4-2, had three chances to go up 5-2 but was too tentative. Mauresmo won the next four games, in that fourth game she won, she hit a forehand, it clipped the net, and forced Venus to move to the net. Mauresmo then passed her for the win.

So so sooooooooo painful :(

I forgot about the second set... :bigcry: :inconsolable: What kind of sick monster would dream up a thread like this? Ban him/her ... fine them!

VishaalMaria
Sep 20th, 2008, 10:44 PM
LOL! So why were you rooting for Momo to win the match? :P I bet you were happy, or bittersweet.

slamchamp
Sep 20th, 2008, 10:45 PM
Masha loss to serena in ao 2005 sf :bigcry:

Craig.
Sep 20th, 2008, 10:49 PM
Masha loss to serena in ao 2005 sf :bigcry:

And.

2008 Roland Garros R16: d. by Safina 6-7 7-6 6-2.

S-U-I-C-I-D-A-L. :bigcry:

Ciarán
Sep 20th, 2008, 10:50 PM
Paszeks loss to JJ at the AO 2008. De-railed her for most of the season.

Marshmallow
Sep 20th, 2008, 10:50 PM
LOL! So why were you rooting for Momo to win the match? :P I bet you were happy, or bittersweet.

I'm a Momo fan too. After seeing her choke away a lot of close matches, I was rooting for her when she was down and coming back. I remember I was glad she won... until I saw Vee having to be consoled by Oracene :sad:. Heartbreaking. I'd have rather Vee won looking back, but you never know, maybe Amelie gained the needed confidence from that match that helped her win the YEC later in the year - and later on denying Henin Wimbledon. So yeah, bittersweet :p

The Daviator
Sep 20th, 2008, 10:51 PM
Wimbledon final '05 :o :o

slamchamp
Sep 20th, 2008, 10:52 PM
And.

2008 Roland Garros R16: d. by Safina 6-7 7-6 6-2.

S-U-I-C-I-D-A-L. :bigcry:I haven't heard much of sweet cleopatra after that match:scared:

Uranium
Sep 20th, 2008, 10:53 PM
I haven't heard much of sweet cleopatra after that match:scared:

She called the French crowd rude and evil and horrible for booing Sweet Maria:)

Uranium
Sep 20th, 2008, 10:54 PM
I'm a Momo fan too. After seeing her choke away a lot of close matches, I was rooting for her when she was down and coming back. I remember I was glad she won... until I saw Vee having to be consoled by Oracene :sad:. Heartbreaking. I'd have rather Vee won looking back, but you never know, maybe Amelie gained the needed confidence from that match that helped her win the YEC later in the year - and later on denying Henin Wimbledon. So yeah, bittersweet :p

:speakles:, you rooted against the Queen.:eek:

Craig.
Sep 20th, 2008, 10:57 PM
Wimbledon final '05 :o :o

:sobbing:

I love Venus too, but nothing compared to the love I feel for my Davy. :tears:

Heartbreaking.

slamchamp
Sep 20th, 2008, 10:58 PM
She called the French crowd rude and evil and horrible for booing Sweet Maria:):bounce:

Max565
Sep 20th, 2008, 11:05 PM
It's hard being a Hingis fan. There are a lot of bad memories... noticably the two matches which anyone would mention.

The Daviator
Sep 20th, 2008, 11:07 PM
:sobbing:

I love Venus too, but nothing compared to the love I feel for my Davy. :tears:

Heartbreaking.

Lindsay's fans suffered mass traumatisations in '04/'05 :o :o

sammy01
Sep 20th, 2008, 11:11 PM
chakvetadzes us open semi final loss to sveta. upto that match anna had become the most consistent player on tour always reaching qtrs or semis in most tournaments, now she is the most unconsistent player. i realy think that loss screwed her indoor season that year, she pulled it together for the YEC and had she not been robbed i think she would of been ok for this season. to me she lost confidence after the us open semi, got some back at the YEC and then this was destroyed again with the robbery and this seasn has been a downward spiral from there as its damn hard to win matches when you've lost your confidence.
thinking about it now it was obvious this year was going to be tough for anna, if i look back now, with the pressure of defending so many points and no confidence, she was always likely to struggle this year and has done well to win as many matches as she has.

Il Primo!
Sep 20th, 2008, 11:12 PM
Lindsay's fans suffered mass traumatisations in '04/'05 :o :o

Tell me about it. I wasn't even a fan but I could only feel bad for her! SO many missed opportunities, so many chokes!:o

frenchie
Sep 20th, 2008, 11:14 PM
Well let me think about it!

I don't remember any traumatic match for Anastasia:o:o

Uranium
Sep 20th, 2008, 11:14 PM
Tell me about it. I wasn't even a fan but I could only feel bad for her! SO many missed opportunities, so many chokes!:o

More so injuries than chokes.
2004 USO, back or thigh injury
2005 AO final, exhausted
2005 Wimbledon final, back injury.

Marshmallow
Sep 20th, 2008, 11:15 PM
I haven't heard much of sweet cleopatra after that match:scared:

He's been posting quite a bit in and around Non-tennis, putting the youngsters to shame on political and economic issues.


:speakles:, you rooted against the Queen.:eek:

I was young and foolish! :sobbing:

The Daviator
Sep 20th, 2008, 11:16 PM
Tell me about it. I wasn't even a fan but I could only feel bad for her! SO many missed opportunities, so many chokes!:o

I can forgive the near misses against Pova, Ree and Vee, but Sveta!!! :bigcry: :hysteric:

For shame Lindsay, for shame.

Il Primo!
Sep 20th, 2008, 11:19 PM
I can forgive the near misses against Pova, Ree and Vee, but Sveta!!! :bigcry: :hysteric:

For shame Lindsay, for shame.

That's exactly what I was talking about!:help:

slamchamp
Sep 20th, 2008, 11:20 PM
He's been posting quite a bit in and around Non-tennis, putting the youngsters to shame on political and economic issues.





He?:unsure:

Filippo-Nastya
Sep 20th, 2008, 11:21 PM
Henin def Myskina 75 57 86 (OG 04) :bigcry:
Thank God, Dementieva and Safina were able to win the decisive double in the FC final 05 otherwise I should have added Pierce def Myskina 46 64 62 to the list (Nastya was leading 64 *41 in that match...:o).

Graf def Novotna 76 16 64 (Wimbledon F 93), Jana was leading *41 in the 3rd set...:sad:

davidmario
Sep 20th, 2008, 11:26 PM
Petrova def. Kveta Peschke 6-7(5) 7-6(6) 6-3 (WImbledon05 R16)
Kvetita held 2 matchpoints at 6-4 in the second set tiebreaker to make her first ever GS quarterfinal and she hit a forehand just wide and double faulted on her second matchpoint:sad:

davidmario
Sep 20th, 2008, 11:26 PM
she said in an interview that she didn't touch a racket for 4 days and she fell in depression.

starin
Sep 20th, 2008, 11:37 PM
I can forgive the near misses against Pova, Ree and Vee, but Sveta!!! :bigcry: :hysteric:

For shame Lindsay, for shame.

also USO '05 against Dementieva. I was really rooting for her in that match and she had more than her fair share of chances.

The Daviator
Sep 20th, 2008, 11:43 PM
also USO '05 against Dementieva. I was really rooting for her in that match and she had more than her fair share of chances.

Yeah, that too :o But I never thought she was ever gonna win that Slam, Kim would have beaten her easily in the final, in the others she blew Slam-winning chances :mad:

The Dawntreader
Sep 20th, 2008, 11:55 PM
Venus losing to Sprem at Wimbledon in 04 was pretty damaging for her whole season. Really rocked her confidence in a big way and she was just so sub-par for then on. Injuries played a part too, but after the cay-court season, Venus was a complete roll-over for the top players. I mean losing to Bovina in Moscow was just:o

Thank god she found herself in 2005, because 2004 was awful:o:sad:

Roookie
Sep 21st, 2008, 05:38 AM
Every single Jelena's lost. She's killing me.

Mikey B
Sep 21st, 2008, 06:10 AM
why create these threads? they're just depressing!! lol! i have many matches, but i dont think they're important because i think we fans take longer to get over losses more than the players themselves!

cherboy
Sep 21st, 2008, 06:33 AM
mary lost to sabatini in 1993 at the aussie open in the quarters 64 67 (12-14) 06. she hold six matchpoints and doesn't used one!

or another terrible lost was in 1999 at the us open where she had matchpoints against davenport and lost after a rain delay with 26 63 57.

gmak
Sep 21st, 2008, 09:54 AM
Lena's loss to Dinara at RG after having MP :sad:
I really thought that this slam could've been hers :(

also her loss to Patty at 2005 AO after leading 7-6,4*-0 30-0 :o :sad:
she had great chance to at least make the final

finally, her 2 losses to Myskina at RG and Wimby :mad:
especially the first one, took me a loooong time to get over :(

Brena
Sep 21st, 2008, 10:09 AM
every JJ's match = massive trauma for her fans
as for JJ herself - probably the matches where her mascara got all smudged, her dress got dirty or there was no big screens on the court to check her hairstyle and make-up :)

(seiriously though, apart from that idiotic loss to Henin at the USO SF '06, I was completely miserable after this year's loss to Ana at the RG)

Miss Atomic Bomb
Sep 21st, 2008, 10:41 AM
Serena's loss to Bammer just before AO 2007 at Hobart

It influenced to her shake the rust off though!

frenchie
Sep 21st, 2008, 11:07 AM
Serena's loss to Bammer just before AO 2007 at Hobart

Oh yeah! It was so traumatic for Serena that she won the AO just 2 weeks later:tape:

babuska6
Sep 21st, 2008, 11:12 AM
For Daniela her match against Ivanovic..She was leading 6-0 2-0 and she lost...:(

FrenchY52
Sep 21st, 2008, 11:13 AM
- Tati's "loss" against Maria in Miami 2006.
Her losses to Mauresmo and Clijsters after having MPs weren't bad either, but she bounced back pretty well from those defeats. Her losses to Ivanovic in Zurich were tough too.

Steff_forever
Sep 21st, 2008, 11:13 AM
fav#1 lst-to fav#2 in tough 3 instead of winning in easy 2 at this yrs AO SF

Dani :sad:

Steff_forever
Sep 21st, 2008, 11:13 AM
For Daniela her match against Ivanovic..She was leading 6-0 2-0 and she lost...:(
;)

wally1
Sep 21st, 2008, 11:49 AM
Rather like a female python privately feasting on a oversized mammal, she is slowly devouring us isn't she?

The Henin defeat at USO SF 06 is probably the most traumatic defeat in the history of tennis.

many more were to follow...

Defeat against a "red hot" Clijsters Sydney final 2007, match points wasted. :help:
Wasting a big third set lead against Henin Berlin QF 2007. :help:
2 points away from beating Venus Williams QF USO 2007 .... ohh for a big first serve.
Defeat against Ivanovic ... Los Angeles Final 2007 .... how can you play so well and lose?
Defeat against Bartoli Wimbledon 2007 .... plain stupid loss caused by smudged mascara
Defeat against Ivanovic RG SF 08I well remember her loss to Myskina at Wimbledon in 2005, which I think she herself said took her a long time to get over. Lost the first set 6-0, saved MP in the second, then led 5-1 and serving in the 3rd, only to lose 10-8! Still one of the most entertaining matches I've ever seen!

ViennaCalling
Sep 21st, 2008, 11:51 AM
Easy to tell :help:

For sure the loss against JJ @ the AO after wasting 4 MP´s :sad:

Ryan
Sep 21st, 2008, 12:06 PM
She had a set point on Serena's serve, which was after Serena had match points at 5-3. With all respect to Hingis she was lucky not to lose 63 63. I don't see how it can be that scarring a loss, when she pretty much played second fiddle from the start of the match :shrug:

You can't pick every close, upsetting match :p Same players just lose more than their share of close ones.

I would say for Hingis the two that you could really say were those two Grand Slam Finals where she came so close to winning. I agree that the 2002 AO was far worse for her.



Thanks, but no thanks.

I'm not saying based on the way she played that match is "traumatic", but the fact that she lost at all. If she won it would have saved her 1999 year and probably made her more confident in 2000. I'm not picking every painful match, I'm picking the ones I think greatest contributed to Hingis' retirement and downfall.

Brena
Sep 21st, 2008, 12:47 PM
Rather like a female python privately feasting on a oversized mammal, she is slowly devouring us isn't she?

The Henin defeat at USO SF 06 is probably the most traumatic defeat in the history of tennis.

many more were to follow...

Defeat against a "red hot" Clijsters Sydney final 2007, match points wasted. :help:
Wasting a big third set lead against Henin Berlin QF 2007. :help:
2 points away from beating Venus Williams QF USO 2007 .... ohh for a big first serve.
Defeat against Ivanovic ... Los Angeles Final 2007 .... how can you play so well and lose?
Defeat against Bartoli Wimbledon 2007 .... plain stupid loss caused by smudged mascara
Defeat against Ivanovic RG SF 08

I well remember her loss to Myskina at Wimbledon in 2005, which I think she herself said took her a long time to get over. Lost the first set 6-0, saved MP in the second, then led 5-1 and serving in the 3rd, only to lose 10-8! Still one of the most entertaining matches I've ever seen!

Yep.
Say what you will about JJ, but she can lose matches no one else can. :rolls:

ptitnavet
Sep 21st, 2008, 12:50 PM
Shrapova def Tati 6/3 6/7 4/3 ab :sad:
When Tati come back from 5/1* to 7/6

nabfunky
Sep 21st, 2008, 02:21 PM
For Daniela her match against Ivanovic..She was leading 6-0 2-0 and she lost...:(

yeah, totally forgot about that one. terrible from dani. how does she win eight games in a row and then disappear? :mad:

ce
Sep 21st, 2008, 02:44 PM
Virginie Razzano def. Jelena Dokic 3-6 7-6 6-1 at AO 2006... :( :bigcry: :bigcry:

:bigcry: :bigcry:

Slutati
Sep 21st, 2008, 02:51 PM
Sharapova def Golovin 6:3,6:7,4:3 ret. :bigcry::sobbing::hysteric:

Malva
Sep 21st, 2008, 02:53 PM
The last one lost.

danieln1
Sep 21st, 2008, 02:56 PM
Lindsay losing to Venus in Wimbledon 05 was the most traumatic for sure
Ana´s loss to the qualifier US Open 08
Martina losing to Graf in RG 99

AcesHigh
Sep 21st, 2008, 03:29 PM
Venus's loss to Serena this year 6-7 6-7 is probably the most traumatic for me as a fan and probably one of the worst losses in the latter stages of a slam for her in her entire career. Winning that match, and then probably the title would have given her the best year since 2001 and possibly jettisoned her career back to 2000-2001 standards.

~Cherry*Blossom~
Sep 21st, 2008, 03:51 PM
Venus losing to Sprem at Wimbledon in 04 was pretty damaging for her whole season. Really rocked her confidence in a big way and she was just so sub-par for then on. Injuries played a part too, but after the cay-court season, Venus was a complete roll-over for the top players. I mean losing to Bovina in Moscow was just:o

Thank god she found herself in 2005, because 2004 was awful:o:sad:

I blame her poor 2004 season to that match against Myskina at the French. Absolutely shocking performance from Venus and she sucked from then on. She then had that epic against Lindsay in Stanford. But really, from the RG QF onwards, she was in poor form.

Slutiana
Sep 21st, 2008, 03:52 PM
Sharapova def Golovin 6:3,6:7,4:3 ret. :bigcry::sobbing::hysteric:
:crying2: :crying2:

Also Kiefer def. Simon 6-7 6-3 7-6

V-MAC
Sep 21st, 2008, 04:00 PM
I blame her poor 2004 season to that match against Myskina at the French. Absolutely shocking performance from Venus and she sucked from then on. She then had that epic against Lindsay in Stanford. But really, from the RG QF onwards, she was in poor form.

She sprained her ankle in Berlin though right? She was tearing up the clay up to that point but I think that really rocked her confidence :(

The Dawntreader
Sep 21st, 2008, 05:20 PM
Easy to tell :help:

For sure the loss against JJ @ the AO after wasting 4 MP´s :sad:

Why didnt she take that ball on the drive-volley on that first match point?:sad:

She played so well, but on those matchpoints she didnt make an effort to close out the points at net. I felt really bad for her that day, she played her ass off.

The Dawntreader
Sep 21st, 2008, 05:24 PM
I blame her poor 2004 season to that match against Myskina at the French. Absolutely shocking performance from Venus and she sucked from then on. She then had that epic against Lindsay in Stanford. But really, from the RG QF onwards, she was in poor form.

Well yeah, she had losses in 2004 that were just unthinkable say even a year before. Even that loss to Raymond at the Aussie Open kinda set the tone for her season. One crappy slam loss after another:sad:

Not one top 10 win all season:o I think the only time that has happened to Venus since 96

hingisGOAT
Sep 21st, 2008, 05:31 PM
On Hingis -- altough the FO 99 final against Graf was the end of her Slam-winning days, I think the 2001 AO final against Capriati marked the end of her Slam-contending days; her results for the rest of 2001 emphatically support this notion, too. She was taken by surprise and never recovered

benji48
Sep 21st, 2008, 06:56 PM
Mary in Linz 06 ... :sobbing:

Geisha
Sep 21st, 2008, 07:03 PM
Agreed, we can only guess as to what exactly that loss did to Serena, but I think it was definitely her most humiliating and probably the one she regrets the most. She would have been the only woman since Steffi Graf to win three Wimbledons in a row. As it is she hasn't won it since Masha snapped her 20 match winning streak there. I really think that loss was a catalyst to a few other big losses that season where Serena started strongly but began to doubt herself at some stage.

I don't know if I agree with this at all. She didn't show terrific form that entire Wimbledon. It wasn't like she was unbeatable in her first six matches, and Sharapova totally shocked her. True, it was a "shocking" loss, but I don't think it impacted her career negatively.

She really learned from that match the next time they met. Heck, Serena had a 4-0 lead in the final set of the YEC final, but had that damned stomach injury. Then, Melbourne 2005. In the long run, that loss may have been the best thing for her. The last four times she defeated Sharapova, she went on to win the title, right?

Dave.
Sep 21st, 2008, 07:04 PM
I would say the Wimbledon 05 Final, but Lindsay still had a great end to the year, I don't think it really affected her mentally, although it was horrible to see her holding back tears at the end :sobbing: .The injury she got during the match would eventually put her into her 1st returement.



Yeah, that too :o But I never thought she was ever gonna win that Slam, Kim would have beaten her easily in the final, in the others she blew Slam-winning chances :mad:

If she can beat her on clay earlier that year I think she could have taken her on fast hardcourt. :devil: But you're right, 2004-2005 were nearly unbearable for Lindsay fans. :sad:

The Daviator
Sep 21st, 2008, 07:12 PM
If she can beat her on clay earlier that year I think she could have taken her on fast hardcourt. :devil: But you're right, 2004-2005 were nearly unbearable for Lindsay fans. :sad:

Lindsay played poorly that US Open, and Kim was killing everyone on HC, so I doubt it would have made a difference, USO was hers in 2004 though, such an injustice :o

MH0861
Sep 21st, 2008, 07:12 PM
AS IF Lindsay would have beaten Mary in the SFs to begin with though :o :spit:

Wintermute
Sep 21st, 2008, 07:17 PM
Wimbledon 2003 R2: Asagoe def. Hantuchova 0-6 6-4 12-10

:sobbing:

Traumatic for Daniela and all her fans.

Robert-KimClijst
Sep 21st, 2008, 07:40 PM
Kim losing to Mauresmo at the 2006 Australian Open. Had she been able to finish the match and possibly win, she would have won the tournament, and who knows what would have happened with two grand slams in a row? Also, definitely Sharapova's loss to Serena and Myskina's loss to Henin at the Olympics in 2004.

duhcity
Sep 21st, 2008, 07:40 PM
For Ivanovic, I don't think it was Zheng that was traumatic, but Dechy the round before.

By all odds, that was Dechy's match to lose, and she lost it. Ivanovic stayed in the match barely, and I think the fact taht she was almost unable to beat Dechy and show strong results after the FO that affected her against Zheng

Venus_Serena
Sep 21st, 2008, 09:40 PM
Venus-Clijsters Us Open 2005

frontier
Sep 21st, 2008, 10:01 PM
Venus-Clijsters Us Open 2005this was heartbreaking after leading 4-2 in the second set:sad:

nabfunky
Sep 22nd, 2008, 12:08 AM
everyone seems to have forgotten about nikki's loss to kuzzy in the semis of the fo '06. before that loss, she was tearing it up as the girl to watch. she served for the match in the second set.

nikki has not been the same player after that loss. :sad:

debopero
Sep 22nd, 2008, 12:26 AM
Nikki made it to the semifinals of the Australian Open the next year :confused: .

NeeemZ
Sep 22nd, 2008, 12:36 AM
Nikki made it to the semifinals of the Australian Open the next year :confused: .

If I remember correctly, Nikki was on a 10 match winning streak before her match against Kuzzy. She had defeated then No.1 Amelie in front of her crowd, defeated Venus and won Strasbourg the week before.

Nikki has never made a final since. She has made a TON of quarters and semis during the latter 2006 and most of 2007 but has never won a Semi Final match since Strasbourg 2006.

égalité
Sep 22nd, 2008, 12:40 AM
Wimbledon 2007 QF. Horrible for Nicole. She's sucked ever since.

I don't think the match against Sveta at RG was as bad because it was the first time she made a grand slam SF and she was understandably nervous. That's the kind of loss you get over and take as "learning experience." But at Wimbledon, she played the best tennis I've ever seen her play, had MPs against Ivanovic, and still couldn't win.

Mackep83
Sep 22nd, 2008, 12:44 AM
Henin-Bartoli 2007 Wim

Hantuchova-Ivanovic 2008 auo

Dawson.
Sep 22nd, 2008, 02:43 AM
all of sveta's losses to henin, especially the close ones (ie RG 2005)

Dawson.
Sep 22nd, 2008, 02:47 AM
Nikki made it to the semifinals of the Australian Open the next year :confused: .

where did grand slam semi finalist nicole go! :sad: none of this 1st and 2nd round nonesense :sobbing:

RJWCapriati
Sep 22nd, 2008, 02:47 AM
all of sveta's losses to henin, especially the close ones (ie RG 2005)

All 16 of them? :p

Dawson.
Sep 22nd, 2008, 02:48 AM
All 16 of them? :p

omg. please dont remind me :hysteric: