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~Kiera~
May 30th, 2010, 12:12 AM
Christina's (http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=17841322&postcount=4247) translation of Rausa's interview

Intervening was hard, because Dinara got results-- even if her base was built through the work of other coaches. Just from Zeljko she heard and understood what she hadn't from other coaches. Probably he even told her things that she liked to hear as a girl. But as for the work that was really necessary, it didn't get done.

Sport Express' (http://english.sport-express.ru/summary/1_5170/) own English translation of Rausa's interview

"It was difficult to interrupt to their trainings, because Dinara demonstrated good results on basis which had been created with other coaches. He just listened to her and understood her, that other coaches lacked. But I didnĺt see any work, which had to be done"

Hmm, it looks like they've totally missed something out :p

redsonja
May 30th, 2010, 12:14 AM
:tape:

And I promise I did not just add it in for my own amusement. :lol: (I just checked, and it's still in the Russian version.)

vanúss
May 30th, 2010, 12:18 AM
Censure ! :lol: Too bad it was the best part hands down ! Thank god we have Redsonja to get the real stuff !

~Kiera~
May 31st, 2010, 06:59 PM
http://www.24sata.hr/sport/okrsaj-titana-federer-je-za-nijansu-bolji-od-nadala/175473/

Titan clash: Federer is a bit better than Nadal

31.05.2010 | 07:12 | By Vjekoslav Paun

Two tennis coach Nikola Pilic and Zeljko Krajan evaluate the two best tennis players of today. Federer is more creative, and Nadal better defanzivac

Federer is the first all time - Roger has won record number of Grand Slam tournament, celebrated 16 times in the biggest tournament

Nervous, crazy on the ground, breaking a racket. All this was Roger Federer in junior days. Then, like Pete Sampras, hired a sports psychologist who has "organize things in my head and after that he became quite another tennis player. He quickly won the junior Grand Slam tournaments, he was the ruler of the Tour. Last year he won Roland Garros and thus completed all four Grand Slam tournaments on different surfaces, which was successful only Andre Agassi of the Open era. Until now won 16 Grand Slam titles and the fact is by far the best tennis player of all time.

- Will win them on 20 I believe this number - said recently, Pete Sampras, who has 14 Slam collection.

GRADE

SERVICE 10, 9 Forehand, backhand 8, CHANGE 10, Chapter 10, volleys 8, short pass 7, CREATIVITY 10 Total 72

JUDGEMENT

Nikola and Zeljko agree that the service, forehand, movement, head and creativity of the strongest weapon of the famous Swiss. For nijasu is weaker on the volleys and short balls, and on the backhand ...

RAFA IS KING clay courts at the Tour - This guy runs without stopping. So I'm not surprised his series 81-0 on earth, "said Borg.

The nephew of Miguel Angel Nadal, the former Barcelona and Spain's soccer team, he chose tennis. And it's definitely somewhere in the 12 , while still parallel "haklao" football. While he was three years his tennis is "pushed" Toni Nadal and since then has been continuously associated with the sport that would later bring him worldwide fame. Croatia presented to the audience it was Carlos Moya 2003rd in which he sought an invitation to his fellow countrymen. Nadal lost in the semifinals, a few years later, Moya admitted ...

- I never thought it would win four Roland Garros in the series, will celebrate at Wimbledon. Rafa is fatastican player, best of all time on clay.


GRADE

SERVICE 7, 10 Forehand, backhand 9, CHANGE 10, Chapter 10, volleys 5, short pass 8, CREATIVITY 8 Ratings 67

JUDGEMENT

Collected five points less than Federer and because there are a lot poorer service than Federer, and volley. But the Spaniard to make up for all the great movement on the ground, because there are more wins.

There is none like FEDERER

These are two totally different style of play. Rafael Nadal is a great defanzivac therefore izluduje Federer, who is absolutely the best tennis player of all time, "said Zeljko utter who led Dinara Safina to number one.

PILIC: NADAL JUST RETURNED

If they are both 100%, then Federer gets. Is a better tennis player. And Nadal is a great move and therefore overcomes the Swiss. Never Nadal would win Wimbledon so that they slow down the ground and pushed the ball hard, "said Nikola Pilic.

vanúss
May 31st, 2010, 07:03 PM
Thanks Sarah ! :)
I guess this thread is now for news of Dejan & Zeljko :sad:

independent
May 31st, 2010, 09:01 PM
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce::

:fiery::fiery::fiery:

did somebody here realized that Z didnt wear his ring anymore
:fiery::fiery::fiery:

:eek: maybe his fingers got swollen from Dinaras problems but :tape: i dont think his wife ? would like it:tape:
i think we will soon know everything what happen in this drama scenario :help:
i hope some croatian friends here should :help: us , they should be closer with this info
:drool::confused::drool::confused::drool::
i promise i will start to get more info about it

vanúss
May 31st, 2010, 09:19 PM
:lol: I stopped looking at his ring long time ago so no i didn't noticed :p when exactly he wasn't wearing it ? :scratch:

~Kiera~
May 31st, 2010, 10:19 PM
:lol: I stopped looking at his ring long time ago so no i didn't noticed :p when exactly he wasn't wearing it ? :scratch:

He wasn't wearing it when they came back from Varazdin in April.

vanúss
May 31st, 2010, 10:27 PM
Yeah i just checked the On court coaching videos you posted , and no ring there . Weird .
I usually don't care about gossips but damn it annoys me not to know the full story :lol: Best Soap Opera EVER ! :p

Ashi
Jun 1st, 2010, 06:41 AM
:speakles: He could have innocently just forgotten to wear it.:unsure:

As they say in Hindi, 'Pati, Patni aur Woh!' . Please i hope not.:hysteric:

~Kiera~
Jun 1st, 2010, 10:07 AM
:speakles: He could have innocently just forgotten to wear it.:unsure:

As they say in Hindi, 'Pati, Patni aur Woh!' . Please i hope not.:hysteric:

If that's the case, he must be extremely forgetful because he also forget to wear it in Rome and Madrid :o :p

independent
Jun 1st, 2010, 10:11 AM
:bounce:i was at the local club in zagreb this morning and looks like people know all the story there but dont really want to open their dirty mouth.there is a lot of pressure from cro press on Z to uncover all this mystery as they cant find out and dont find it normal how this successful relationship could end up like that after she was injured for 6 months and after stress fracture rehabilitation for 3 months in varazdin.as they told me Z is refusing to say somethink but not for very long as it seems that he was forced to move away from her and being treated in a very bad way from all her surrounding as we could see from mothers and myskinas interviews even Dinara said in interview that they stayed in very good relationship which i doubt.and btw he is divorced since january this year and it wasnt a secret.i cant imagine what was happening in varazdin during her rehab but this is getting very big story.i hope Z will not be able to hold it for long inside of him and will get out with everythink.:worship:

~Kiera~
Jun 1st, 2010, 10:33 AM
Thanks for the gossip, independent :)

If Z is divorced, I can't say I'm at all surprised.

Caralenko
Jun 1st, 2010, 10:55 AM
So he was single while she was with him in Varazdin? :hysteric:

nikeshirtoffug
Jun 1st, 2010, 11:32 AM
http://www.24sata.hr/sport/okrsaj-titana-federer-je-za-nijansu-bolji-od-nadala/175473/

Two tennis coach Nikola Pilic and Zeljko Krajan evaluate the two best tennis players of today.

Wow. Someone is bored.

:bounce:i was at the local club in zagreb this morning and looks like people know all the story there but dont really want to open their dirty mouth.there is a lot of pressure from cro press on Z to uncover all this mystery as they cant find out and dont find it normal how this successful relationship could end up like that after she was injured for 6 months and after stress fracture rehabilitation for 3 months in varazdin.as they told me Z is refusing to say somethink but not for very long as it seems that he was forced to move away from her and being treated in a very bad way from all her surrounding as we could see from mothers and myskinas interviews even Dinara said in interview that they stayed in very good relationship which i doubt.and btw he is divorced since january this year and it wasnt a secret.i cant imagine what was happening in varazdin during her rehab but this is getting very big story.i hope Z will not be able to hold it for long inside of him and will get out with everythink.:worship:
:worship: If I were in Croatia I would buy you all the detective tools you need to continue your investigation.

DS.Fan.
Jun 1st, 2010, 11:32 AM
Thank you Independent:worship:
Z is really divorce?!:eek: but I remember he and his wife still had a good relationship in second half of last year.
I can't stop myself to be more and more curious about Dinajan:tape::tape::p

Dinayer
Jun 1st, 2010, 11:45 AM
So he was single while she was with him in Varazdin? :hysteric:

OMG!! Mama rausa was right, Dinajan romance was/is real!!!!! Maybe they dont want Dinara to love her coach :shrug:

redsonja
Jun 1st, 2010, 01:14 PM
:worship: If I were in Croatia I would buy you all the detective tools you need to continue your investigation.
Ditto. None of this is surprising me, but it's nice to have confirmation. Well. In its way.

Thank you, Independent. :)

Z is really divorce?!:eek: but I remember he and his wife still had a good relationship in second half of last year.
No matter what anyone may have said publicly, I'd be quite surprised if he and his wife had had a "good relationship" for at least a year and a half.

~Kiera~
Jun 1st, 2010, 01:32 PM
http://www.eg.ru/daily/sports/19604/

Safina in the deep hole

The former first racket of the world away from the coach of the Croatia

Something strange going on lately with Dinara Safina. At the French Open the former first racket of the world lost a 39-year-old Japanese woman DATE Kimiko Krumm. In the women's world tennis rankings, this is only 72 th place.

For Safina is already the fourth consecutive failure on clay courts. After a serious spinal injuries Dinara difficulty entering the season, but was never able to recruit their former shape. If a series of setbacks delayed, then the leader of the recent world tennis may depart from the top twenty. And, most terrible to lose confidence in their strength.

On the eve of a tournament in Paris, Safin went on a decisive step - was replaced by a coach. In Croat Zeljko Krajan she had a difficult relationship. Dinara than once allowed herself to cry on Krajan in public places, which caused surprise among others. Then we think better tennis player and all insisted that Zeljko - the world's best coach. Safin is now preparing another specialist - from Argentina.

In a commentary, we asked the vice president of Tennis Federation of Russia, Alexander Kalivodu.

- I do not think that Dinara finally gone from Krajan, - said Alexander. - The fact that before the contest on the ground, many are changing coaches. Because there are experts on the game on hard, but there are others - for example, on the ground or on grass. It's different tennis. When groundwater season is over, Safina certainly return to Croatia. It has had disagreements with Krajan but they are solvable. After all, with Zeljko and Dinara was a fruitful union, and the title of world's first racket Safina won with his help.

But the famous tennis player Anastasia Myskina, winner of the French Open-2004, believes that Zeljko Krajan lot of things in the game spoiled Dinara. A fly in the past year at the top of the rankings she helped parents (especially my mother, she is the coach Rouse Islanova), as well as its own diligence Safina. Said Myskina, Krajan was simply the right time in the right place.

Be sure to return

This season, our tennis players could not reach the final of the Federation Cup, which won four times in the past five years. The failure in the semifinals in a match with the USA many associated with the fact that in Russia women's national team did not play the leading female tennis players, including Safin. The last time she spoke for Russia for more than two years ago, in February 2008.

- The situation with Dinara generally fairly delicate, - says Alexander Kalivod. - And Neighborhood Safina tries not to interfere in her relationship with the president of Tennis Federation of Russia, as well as national team captain Shamil Tarpischev. So it's better for us all. When the athlete is going through hard times, no need to wait on her exploits. First you need to help her, especially psychologically. But I assure you, Dinara necessarily return to its previous level. One hundred percent!

Alexander Kalivodu: not so secret D/Z shipper :p

redsonja
Jun 1st, 2010, 01:34 PM
Do not get my hopes up, Kalivodu. :sobbing: (Would do an actual translation, but don't have time at this point, if anyone actually cares enough, I could do it tonight.)

nikeshirtoffug
Jun 1st, 2010, 02:02 PM
I’d also like a comment from Russia tennis federation’s other vice president, Marat Safin. :)

I don’t want to get my hopes up, but honestly, the more I’ve read over the last week the more I’m starting to think he’ll be back. Or she’ll be back. They’ll be back? I dunno anymore….

osseous
Jun 1st, 2010, 02:03 PM
Do not get my hopes up, Kalivodu. :sobbing: (Would do an actual translation, but don't have time at this point, if anyone actually cares enough, I could do it tonight.)

Please. An actual translation would be good. Thanks in advance! :)

redsonja
Jun 1st, 2010, 02:06 PM
;17891939']Please. An actual translation would be good. Thanks in advance! :)

Okay, I'll look at it tonight. Sometimes it turns out that the Google translation is actually pretty good (this one seems decent), in which case I won't bother, but I will look at it. :)

osseous
Jun 1st, 2010, 02:08 PM
Okay, I'll look at it tonight. Sometimes it turns out that the Google translation is actually pretty good (this one seems decent), in which case I won't bother, but I will look at it. :)

Thanks! :)

osseous
Jun 1st, 2010, 02:25 PM
But I assure you, Dinara necessarily return to its previous level. One hundred percent!

I hope this is for sure. :crying2:

vanúss
Jun 1st, 2010, 02:59 PM
I’d also like a comment from Russia tennis federation’s other vice president, Marat Safin. :)

I don’t want to get my hopes up, but honestly, the more I’ve read over the last week the more I’m starting to think he’ll be back. Or she’ll be back. They’ll be back? I dunno anymore….

+700 000 !

I'm trying hard not to get my hopes up but come on , it's impossible !
The Krajan house was empty...:bolt:

Tell me more , tell me more ! :angel:

vanúss
Jun 1st, 2010, 03:04 PM
OMG!! Mama rausa was right, Dinajan romance was/is real!!!!! Maybe they dont want Dinara to love her coach :shrug:

Maybe they don't want her to be a stepmother , to be involved with a guy who's older than her ( for Mama Rausa their age difference is probably unbearable ) , who's already divorced & maybe cheated :p Or you know someone who's smaller than her :spit:

Thank you so much by the way Independent , you did a great job :worship:

Ashi
Jun 1st, 2010, 03:17 PM
:speakles::speakles::speakles:

He's Divorced!!!!!

camilia
Jun 1st, 2010, 03:20 PM
:speakles::speakles::speakles::speakles:

Ashi
Jun 1st, 2010, 03:32 PM
Technically she did utter the words ' I Love You',even if it was after she won in Madrid.:o:p

makini
Jun 1st, 2010, 03:33 PM
The shit is hitting the fan now. As interesting as this all is I wonder how Dinara is dealing with all her private stuff becoming public this is the same girl who said that everything stays in the house when asked about fighting with Marat when she was younger so she must not be loving this.

Maybe they don't want her to be a stepmother , to be involved with a guy who's older than her ( for Mama Rausa their age difference is probably unbearable ) , who's already divorced & maybe cheated :p Or you know someone who's smaller than her :spit:

Thank you so much by the way Independent , you did a great job :worship:

:spit: :lol:

Ashi
Jun 1st, 2010, 03:37 PM
If she was emotionally involved( using mild words here);), she must be hurting right now.:awww:

vanúss
Jun 1st, 2010, 03:43 PM
She must be going through one hell of a time indeed . Hopefully she won't get any more Z related questions ( as much as i'd love to hear more from her , i'm sure we can know the whole story without having to ask her . ) at her press conferences...She'll still have to deal with the story one way or another though especially since Rausa & Myskina opened their mouth , which wasn't a smart move on their part :o

DS.Fan.
Jun 1st, 2010, 03:55 PM
She often views Wtatour.ru so I'm curious about her reaction to the comments from Ruasa and Myskina:p Really wanna know the whole story!

osseous
Jun 1st, 2010, 05:09 PM
If she was emotionally involved( using mild words here);), she must be hurting right now.:awww:

+1 :crying2: Dinara. :hug:

Nina.
Jun 1st, 2010, 05:22 PM
About the things Myskina and her mother said, they only said that Z wasn't good for her game and ruined more than he improved, right? Or did I miss some more things they talked about?

vanúss
Jun 1st, 2010, 05:27 PM
About the things Myskina and her mother said, they only said that Z wasn't good for her game and ruined more than he improved, right? Or did I miss some more things they talked about?

Rausa added an interesting part but i can't remember it exactly .
But it's more about the way they talked about Zeljko like they had something against him personally like some of us thought it sounded , than the truth or not of what they said about him destroying Dinara's game :shrug:

osseous
Jun 1st, 2010, 05:27 PM
About the things Myskina and her mother said, they only said that Z wasn't good for her game and ruined more than he improved, right? Or did I miss some more things they talked about?

I guess you miss this one: Christina's translation of Rausa's interview - Probably he even told her things that she liked to hear as a girl. :)

Ashi
Jun 1st, 2010, 05:43 PM
;17893897']I guess you miss this one: Christina's translation of Rausa's interview - Probably he even told her things that she liked to hear as a girl. :)

Yes, Exactly!. It was puzzling when she said that, with what we know/assume now, it becomes more clear.

independent
Jun 1st, 2010, 11:15 PM
i cant believe that dinajan is getting main subject in every tennis conversation.my team is preparing to start team tennis matches so there is guys who seems to know a lot and in few days we play against the club in varazdin.i think i will go there day earlier to move to the places where dinajan was hanging out at their stay there because of dinara recovery after injury from melbourne.what is going on is :tape::worship::rolleyes:.looks like Z has appearance on nationl TV sport program on monday about his 2,5 years working and helping relationship with Dinara to get her to nr1 in the world after hard work of 1,5 years 24/7 from where she was at the begging and the problems after why their communication was interrupted because of a third and few more parties and her turning her back on him in tennis and turning to the parties that she was working with when she was good average player.this was promotion for the TV interview but it looks to me that is gone be called DINARA RUINED ZELJKOS LIFE. little bit different to what mother has said.honestly i dont think Z is gone saying everything but he for sure has better arguments then mother and myskina cause he was 24/7. i hope Z will be strong enough in his defens to uncover this drama ending.
and yes what i heard today is that she forced his divorce.:help::help::help::help::help::help: i dont want to think this about Dinara but if this is the case then i dont doubt she made a big mistake for her an her tennis to aloud mother to interfere and stand between them.cause i really doubt that she wanted to fire him.
lets see what exactly i will found out in varazdin.

vanúss
Jun 1st, 2010, 11:21 PM
Wow too much to process :lol:
Could you record that tv appearance by any chance ? ( argh it will be in Croatian of course , just realised that :p )
Messy story , just like we were all scared it would end :o

DS.Fan.
Jun 1st, 2010, 11:32 PM
omg!I don't know what to say now!yeah,pls pls record the tv appearance!

independent
Jun 1st, 2010, 11:50 PM
im a low club matches player but big fan of tennis and 2 years younger then Dinara and im trying to follow worlds tennis as much as i can,specially their successes.what happened in their work is one thing but im trying to follow her now and i cant understand changes she is making.first of all she said that she was advised form marats ex coach Gumy (who dont seem to have a lot of experience as a coach at the level where Dinara was with Z,he was Marats coach for like 2 years and can somebody tell me what success they had??? looks like he is only god friend of family) to try with Etlis who on the other side i also didnt see him on the level where Dinajan was,as i know he was working with Canas when he was doped:tape:.it looks Dinara is making very amateur decisions and believes to people just because of her friendship towards this people who are more then honored to help now after Z made her tennis star out of average player.i would suppose that she takes somebody with a lot of experience on the level where she was or is still is.but as Marat once said that he would rather hang himself then work with her i suppose that many of this people on the highest level share his opinion so she has to go with average decisions.but it looks that Z was the only one who could understand her and her problems maybe as he was young and just starting in this job and was ready to give everything for her success and had to prove him self in that world and was ready to deal with everything.im sure she had good coaches before him but maybe they were not ready to go so deep with her mysteries.im afraid she is doing crucial mistakes at the very important moment of her career.thats my way of seeing her decisions now.:eek::confused::rolleyes::eek::confused:

redsonja
Jun 2nd, 2010, 12:01 AM
You are like the most talented person ever at digging up gossip. :eek:

Anyway, though, I wouldn't read too much into Marat saying he'd rather hang himself than coach Dinara. :lol: They are siblings. I'd rather hang myself than coach my brother, too. :p

I do share your fear that she's making shaky decisions for the wrong reasons at a very crucial point in her career, though. [sigh] It's not fun to watch.

makini
Jun 2nd, 2010, 01:08 AM
I feel as though I should just leave this page open all day and refresh every couple of hours because I'm missing so much by checking in once or twice a day.

Everyone is talking now except for Dinara, but the situation is quickly getting worse and worse. Zeljko talking will probably sting more than mama Rausa and Nastya talking combined because he was probably privy to information that they were not as he was with her all the time. As much as I want to know what happened I think that it might be better for everyone to keep their mouths shut.

redsonja
Jun 2nd, 2010, 01:38 AM
I feel as though I should just leave this page open all day and refresh every couple of hours because I'm missing so much by checking in once or twice a day.
Seriously, I can only check once or twice a day, too. :lol:

Everyone is talking now except for Dinara, but the situation is quickly getting worse and worse. Zeljko talking will probably sting more than mama Rausa and Nastya talking combined because he was probably privy to information that they were not as he was with her all the time. As much as I want to know what happened I think that it might be better for everyone to keep their mouths shut.
Indeed, but this whole thing is a complete disaster. If anyone had put any kind of planning into it, they would have had a canned "it's been 2.5 years and we've come to the end of our road, thank you and good bye" line that everyone would have stuck to. It's smacked to me from the very beginning as a rushed, ill-thought out decision, and the lack of PR control doesn't do anything to change my opinion about that. I really hope Zeljko comes out and plays nice, not just to protect Dinara, but because it's kind of prudent business practice if you want more high-level students that you don't go around trashing the one who made your career as a coach.

The truth, I'm sure, as usual, lies somewhere in the middle-- and right now it's Zeljko's move and I really, really hope he takes the high road. I'm going to be sweating it out a little bit, because the last thing those two need now-- personally and professionally-- is to get in on the sniping themselves.

vanúss
Jun 2nd, 2010, 08:27 AM
I don't think Zeljko will go overboard in his interview :shrug:
He at some point has to give his side of the story ! especially when they are people not minding to criticize him openly , it looks like to me he has two choices : either shutting up and keep being bothered by the croatian press to talk , or , give them all what they want and fess up without necessarily sharing details that don't need to be known . Depending on how he handles it , it could 'redeem' him career wise or yeah crush him and Dinara even more...

Dinara's ( :hug: ) the only smart person in this mess apparently (well not so much for the decision but for the 'i don't want to talk about it' part) , but i have faith that Z will not make it even worse than it already is :unsure:

What a timing ! If it happened like after the french open it wouldn't be such a big deal :lol:

DS.Fan.
Jun 2nd, 2010, 09:05 AM
It puzzled me what the mean of"she forced his divorce"!Frankly,I never thought Z would love Dina.He treated her more like a severe father or a brother!but who knows what happened between them indeed!I'm afraid Dina is hurted in the mess.Hope Z will handle all the things well!

C. Drone
Jun 2nd, 2010, 09:23 AM
oh just fuck you all you shipper people, especially the main lunatic vanessa.

Z is an idiot he made nothing just scroched earth. stop the bullshitting. And a moderator close this shit, pronto.

vanúss
Jun 2nd, 2010, 10:24 AM
oh just fuck you all you shipper people, especially the main lunatic vanessa.

Z is an idiot he made nothing just scroched earth. stop the bullshitting. And a moderator close this shit, pronto.

Why would a moderator close this topic ? because you hate Zeljko :rolleyes:

I'm not 'shipping' anyone , it was funny to laugh about it when we were just assuming but now it's a big mess and i want it to be over as soon as possible for Dinara's sake , but it won't happen tomorrow , deal with it already :o

This thread will end up being dead anyway no need to close it right now :p

redsonja
Jun 2nd, 2010, 12:31 PM
What a timing ! If it happened like after the french open it wouldn't be such a big deal :lol:

Crap, if it had happened before she came back, it wouldn't be such a big deal. :lol: It baffles me that these are all people who've been in the public eye one way or another for decades, because so far their PR sense seems seriously underdeveloped. :p

Dinayer
Jun 2nd, 2010, 04:34 PM
oh just fuck you all you shipper people, especially the main lunatic vanessa.

Z is an idiot he made nothing just scroched earth. stop the bullshitting. And a moderator close this shit, pronto.

relax babe.
we're girls, you need to understand us!

~Kiera~
Jun 2nd, 2010, 07:24 PM
we're girls, you need to understand us!

Exactly :p

http://www.sportsdaily.ru/users/olesya-shevchenko-1749/blog/posts/uvidet-parizh-i-umeret-2709

See Paris and die ...

Dinara Safina has suffered perhaps the most humiliating defeat in his career from 39-year-old Japanese woman Kimiko Date Krumm. After that, she said that some time ago decided to part with her coach Zeljko Krajan. And here started a circus tent, in other words, I can not think of it. On all sides of the Croat went to accusations that he had just ruined the game Dinara, that he was only prevented in its development, and what she has achieved during his trenerstva - the results of previous mentors. In particular, Anastasia Myskina said in a commentary Sport-Express: "Many will say that when she worked with him, she has won, but understand this: tennis player can not be the first in the world in one day! It's long years of work rather than monthly.

Of course, to be the first to work. But we must, and human factors, as well as a player and coach. Before Zeljko, Dinara was the usual average player, and was not a month or two, but for years. And, in my opinion, will not appear on the horizon Province, Safin and now would be dangled in the third ten. He was able to send its game at the track, where they could not send all the rest. If it was the work of only the former players, it is not enough for such a long time. She would have won a couple of tournaments and everything. But Zeljko Safina put a completely different style of play, through which she was able to fight at the top players calmly. In order to understand the situation enough to compare the two players - Safina and Kuznetsova. Kuznetsova won her the WG due to the work that it has done Morozova, in that I have no doubt. And then Amy slumped. The work, which dealt with Olga V. gave his result, but further work on the same level was not, that's Kuznetsova went from recession, which goes so far. Well, perhaps, that won the tournament in Beijing can be attributed to the World credit - and everything. I immediately went Safina changes in the game, and tactics, immediately became noticeable growth. And that all this did not last a month or two - and much more - speaks volumes. If not for injury, possibly Safin still would have been the first. This is probably the only thing you can accuse Zeljko. In fact, that at some point he stopped Dinara and gave her to commit, perhaps, one of the greatest mistakes in her sporting life. He gave her to play than aggravated injury starts. The fact that about him a lot of what they shall speak and not very pleasant - we must be ready. Still want to put before the stigma, people thought.

osseous
Jun 3rd, 2010, 01:55 AM
relax babe.
we're girls, you need to understand us!

Right. :lol:
I missed a lot of things now. :sobbing:

C. Drone
Jun 4th, 2010, 09:49 AM
relax babe.
we're girls, you need to understand us!

lolwhat? to understand girls? sure, "impossible is nothing". :lol:

and no, i can't understand Dinara neither. If she wanted to perform the Physical with somebody, than she should have gone to the ATP lockerroom - there is enough tall and horny douche for every healthy woman -, but not to her moron married dwarf coach's bed!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

redsonja
Jun 4th, 2010, 12:33 PM
lolwhat? to understand girls? sure, "impossible is nothing". :lol:
We could get you a t-shirt or something... :lol:

and no, i can't understand Dinara neither. If she wanted to perform the Physical with somebody, than she should have gone to the ATP lockerroom - there is enough tall and horny douche for every healthy woman -, but not to her moron married dwarf coach's bed!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
Too bad there's not an ATP locker room most of her year. :shrug:

Nina.
Jun 4th, 2010, 12:49 PM
I gotta agree with Norbert. There's no excuse for hooking up with your married coach - if this story should be true - even when the ATP locker room isn't around all the time :shrug:

Ashi
Jun 4th, 2010, 03:21 PM
I gotta agree with Norbert. There's no excuse for hooking up with your married coach - if this story should be true - even when the ATP locker room isn't around all the time :shrug:

Yes, that's inexcusable in my book:o. But if they did hook up after the divorce, then i am fine with it.

~Kiera~
Jun 6th, 2010, 01:40 PM
http://cs.mariasharapova.com/forums/permalink/531796/529709/ShowThread.aspx#529709

http://i49.tinypic.com/xdbl1c.jpg

:sobbing:

Ashi
Jun 6th, 2010, 01:46 PM
:speakles:






















Zeljko is insulted.:ras:



















:spit::spit::spit:

redsonja
Jun 6th, 2010, 01:56 PM
:spit:

(:singer: "I will be your father figure..." :singer: )

vanúss
Jun 6th, 2010, 02:07 PM
:lol: i've always been surprised that Dinara didn't made Z wear heels , she obviously chose his clothes why not his shoes :shrug:

independent
Jun 6th, 2010, 05:51 PM
i was doing some digging up thru this cooperation of Dinara with Z as i was following her for longer time even before(still didnt find out if there was strong private relationship between them and if she was involved in his divorce) and i came to conclusion that there is no single chance for her to get back to the the top where she was was with this coach(i wish i would be wrong). not that im supporting Z because he is my countryman,just talking about her partnership with this guy who changed everything in her game and her mentality to be able to compete with the best. reasons: i have to get back to the article above about him being responsible for her injury.im playing in the club where Goran(Ivanisevic) is hitting sometimes and i had opportunity to get some knowing about such a project like Dinara and surrounding of such a top player.Z for sure was doing many things with her being coach,friend,brother,psychologist but surely he was not her doctor and cant decide if she is able to play or not.if she played injured she surely had green light from her doctors and physiotherapist team around her.looks like she started to be injured in US open and was playing thru the injury end of the season and there comes out the thing i founded out from Goran how big influence have managers on such a player and they are the ones making the most profit out of her finishing the year nr1.and coach stands no right there anymore because of all the pressure around.so i dont thing he had anything to say there and if should would feel she cant play she wouldnt. about Z's playing career here in Croatia mostly is known as 7,8 years ago Ivan(Ljubicic) and him were the ones coming up.he was a big talent and people say a must be top 30 player but the problem was that at his teenage years he liked the life outside tennis and he had good life without tennis(which is opposite of Ivan).he still get to top 100 but got injured probably because of not being professional enough.knowing his coach that he was working with after his injury Z realized that his talent might slip away and he started to push him self too much trying to make up for the years he lost and he started to be even more injured and was forced to retire at 24.looks like his case gave him some answers to what he did learning on his own mistakes.thats why i thing Dinara came to him at the right time for both where he probably saw the chance to prove him self in tennis again.as kind of his 2nd career.looking at Dinaras career up to that point she was also player that didnt use her potentials to her limits (which success after has proven) and he was the right guy to help her as same happened to him just couple of years before that. other big reason for her success is his character that was always very strong and for sure exactly what she needed at that point of her career where she said she was even thinking about quitting with tennis.people him always liked him because of his character cause he always said what he meant in his interviews doesnt matter what about,federation,Davis Cup,situation in Cro tennis etc...i know clubs here always wanted him to play for them as he was strong leader and he won Cro club tennis with 4 different teams. there comes the other reason which is Dinara.looking at her you can surely see that she is not very confident player and person and because of her early success with him i think she found in him that extra confidence she is missing and was feeling pretty safe and secure next to him because of that early success.and from her interviews you can see how much she was trusting him and credited him for all the success and was playing probably more and the trust in him then in herself.this is the reason why she made that change she was not able to do before him.so its because of his strong character and seeing him as strong leader and trust she had in him.she was able to go probably over her limits(i dont think anybody here would ever say 3 years ago the she will be nr1 one day) with him pushing her.but this could also be the reason of this break up as she started to fall down little bit and was maybe not able to handle this pushing mentally anymore.as their work for 2 years im sure was very intense.and took a lot out of her probably mentally getting up and battling for this nr1 spot and Grand Slam.so it just maybe became to hard for her. the last reason is her new coach which i had opportunity to see when i was in Umag(ATP tournament) couple of years ago.i got the chance to follow everything there and also saw him working.and he is complete opposite character form Z.i dont want to get into coaches knowledge but i think she needs more of the just strong leader and strong person next to her with trust in him(exactly what she found ones in her career in Z,but im not sure you can find this twice in your life something that just fits so perfectly cause thats how it looked like) then just a simple quite tennis coach he is.
thats my seeing of things...
even i would want to know the real reason of this unexpected,unclear and rushed decision from Dinara im afraid i would not like to see Z saying out everything on the table cause i said he is pretty honest when he speaks and doesnt look to safe people and fit somebody something.
the last thing im hoping for Dinaras good is that hopefully was not the people around her who push her on this move cause they dont like him as he is strong character and was probably ignoring someone of them for her success,cause then she is playing dangerously with her tennis career and might play the rest of her career same as before him as the solid average player...

Ashi
Jun 6th, 2010, 06:06 PM
:speakles: Please type in Paragraphs next time my friend.:secret: Cant keep track of my eyes.:weirdo:

vanúss
Jun 6th, 2010, 06:50 PM
:eek: i tried to read but i may have missed a few lines though :scratch:

But i don't share your opinion about Dinara never reaching the level she got when she was working with Z . It will take time indeed but she totally can ! Now will she ? Time will tell :shrug:

The rest i agree , i think , i don't know i might have missed the meaning in one of those sentences i forgot to read ;)

I'm optimistic about Zeljko's interview though , i don't think he'll talk more than necessary ! I don't care if they don't work together anymore or that everybody around Dinara hates him but it would be a bummer if those two hated each other also , mentally it would be even worse for Dinara .

redsonja
Jun 6th, 2010, 07:01 PM
Thanks, Independent. :)

I actually agree with everything you said. I never bought the idea that Zeljko was the reason she was injured. After his own career was ended very prematurely through injury, it seemed completely implausible that he would be the one who pushed her to play before she was fully healed. I think those decisions are her own doing-- even when she came back in Stuttgart this year, she said "everybody" was telling her to stay out longer. :shrug: And I also doubt-- although I certainly hope-- that she can find another coach who clicks with her so well, mentally and emotionally. Although I kind of feel like she needs to learn to rely on herself for that, and she's 24 years old, and now's the time.

Hopefully Zeljko can keep it civil in public. :tape: I'd really hate to see him make this whole thing even uglier than it already is.

osseous
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:30 AM
Sarah! :sobbing: Are you a member there?
Honestly speaking, I am the one with the username 'dinara :D'.









:p

Caralenko
Jun 7th, 2010, 06:31 AM
Wow Independent. Thanks for that. The plot thickens, and Zeljko didn't really seem the one to blame for a bum back anyway.

~Kiera~
Jun 7th, 2010, 10:55 AM
Thanks, independent :)

;17930495']Sarah! :sobbing: Are you a member there?
Honestly speaking, I am the one with the username 'dinara :D'.

No, I just found it on google :p

osseous
Jun 7th, 2010, 11:38 AM
No, I just found it on google :p

I thought you are a member. :lol:
Thanks Independent. :)

~Kiera~
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:39 PM
Figured I may as well re-upload all their coaching timeouts to one place.

Safina vs Sugiyama - Sydney 2009

http://i47.tinypic.com/102qrth.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/afh9g6/3

I'll miss your inappropriateness most of all :sobbing:



Safina vs Dementieva - Sydney 2009

CTO 1

http://i47.tinypic.com/2cdab9c.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/afkis4/3


CTO 2

http://i45.tinypic.com/dyu6tg.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/a5hrv8/3




Safina vs Azarenka - IW 2009

http://i47.tinypic.com/2h3blad.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/afkltg/3




Safina vs Pennetta - Stuttgart 2009

http://i50.tinypic.com/21awois.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/a14lrd/3



Safina vs Kuznetsova - Stuttgart 2009

http://i50.tinypic.com/21179xg.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/afk39e/3



Safina vs MJMS - Rome 2009

CTO x 3

http://i49.tinypic.com/i72zo8.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/afkqcl/3



Safina vs Kuznetsova - Rome 2009

http://i49.tinypic.com/33p7m2s.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/ajnf2s/3



Safina vs Schnyder - Madrid 2009

http://i50.tinypic.com/2ex2bso.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/afkozt/3



Safina vs Errani - Portoroz 2009

CTO 1

http://i47.tinypic.com/nfie1c.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/ajnign/3


CTO 2

http://i48.tinypic.com/dyt17k.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/ajnk8p/3

vanúss
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:42 PM
Thank you so much Sarah :sad:

This is one of a kind on court coaching moment :lol:

redsonja
Jun 7th, 2010, 11:43 PM
:sobbing:

Never forget (http://www.google.com/url?q=http://s0.ilike.com/play%23Boyz%2BII%2BMen:End%2Bof%2Bthe%2BRoad:28738 :s70889.9559143.5113711.1.2.31%252Cstd_712cec7a0db e4fa0a7d1c59f8224ea9e&sa=X&ei=5nUNTK-1MoX7lwen7YW0Dg&ved=0CBYQ0wQoADAA&usg=AFQjCNG2hfow3q-9_I8fKhNpYAFUS94efQ). :p

osseous
Jun 8th, 2010, 03:13 AM
Great. Thanks Sarah! :sobbing:

independent
Jun 8th, 2010, 06:35 PM
:help: i dont know if this is good or bad news :help: looks like by the sayings here that Z is back on Tour. i hope its not WTA after all this mess around this break up. :eek: seeing this on court coaching videos i cant and dont want to see him sitting next to some other girly :fiery:
im sure he had enough success and stress next to messy Dinara this 2 years and dont know why he would needed again :mad:
does anybody knows something?

vanúss
Jun 8th, 2010, 06:41 PM
wow no haven't heard of Zeljko being back on tour ! At least not on the WTA and i hope he won't be back on the WTA Circuit i'd rather see him work with some ATP player !

by the way did you get to see that interview of him last night on a croatian channel ?!

~Kiera~
Jun 8th, 2010, 07:27 PM
I haven't come across any news yet, but I'll keep my eyes peeled.

I guess I differ in that I do hope he is back on the WTA tour. Yeah, it'll be strange at first but I can't imagine we'd see much of him otherwise :shrug:

nikeshirtoffug
Jun 8th, 2010, 07:47 PM
At this stage of his career I can't see him making the immediate switch to ATP, but who knows? I would guess it's someone from the WTA. Possibly a lower ranked player. It's a busy 2 weeks ahead so if he is with someone else, we'll know soon enough.

vanúss
Jun 8th, 2010, 07:54 PM
It all depends on the player he'd be coaching on the WTA :shrug: If it's someone i cannot stand it would suck :p

independent
Jun 8th, 2010, 11:06 PM
he wasnt ready to come for the show cause it was to fast and everything happen to quickly he will do when some thing will get quit err to talk about their working relationship so from that you can see that theres is still unclear finish from both sides.i just thing they just wait for somebody to start or it will happen after some time passes.must be something more then tennis cause Z was never escaping such a thing.but he knows this case might have some trouble with it and i thing due to that he is already working somewhere,definitely not in Croatia.so we still have to give it some time to finish this success full relationship.

redsonja
Jun 8th, 2010, 11:23 PM
Hmmm. I had wondered if everything wasn't really settled yet if he'd go ahead and talk or not. Verrrrrry interesting. :scratch: I suppose we'll all have to wait and see. :shrug:

I would be really interested to see who else could mesh with his working style. About the only well-known player I can imagine being able to take his personality on is Aga Radwanska. Or maybe Bepa. But God knows it could be practically anyone... :scratch:

This gets curiouser and curiouser. Seriously nothing would surprise me at this point. :lol:

Caralenko
Jun 9th, 2010, 06:19 AM
I really hope it's Vera :lol: That match up would provide fireworks.

vanúss
Jun 9th, 2010, 11:32 AM
I would love it if he coached Bepa :lol: But seriously if it's some WTA player , i already cannot wait to see Dinara play 'the girl'...It would be so awkward !

Glad that Z didn't made that interview in the end . Smart move ! ( until the next ! :p)

independent
Jun 10th, 2010, 09:45 AM
More bad news,Z confirmed to Croatian press that he is working on WTA tour but didn't want to say the name of the player yet.(I would not wonder at all that is Dinara back with him).but I hope its not somebody who is playing in holland next week where Dinara is playing cause this would be complete disaster.looks like this thread will never die and is just getting better and has no end in the near future.I would not want to be in anybodys position if they will meet in the same tournament with different teams.it will be hard for Z seeing her working with somebody else,it will be hard for mother as its sure now that she made that decision for daughter and she push him away,saying he has done bad job,I never wrote she said one good word about any of her ex coaches.what will she say about this coach when Dinara will be 35th ranked in 2 months time.she will say that he is the best coach in the world cause she will have control over him and his work cause you can see and feel that she had no control over Z and he was the one who was in control of everything around her tennis and this made her pissed.instead of giving him credit and respect over the press cause he made her daughter nr1 in the world,3 slams finals(why she didn't win it was obvious as her mental part collapsed every time and her heart was not on the court with her)and looks like he made a grown up woman out of her if they were in private relationship which is no doubt anymore I think that they were.so she does opposite and talks bad about him.somebody has to be very crazy in all this case???!!! It will not be easy for Dinara if he will be around at the same tournament cause she must know what he have done for her and what she made with him and that that person knows her better then she knows her self and even better then her own mother knows her,and that he is the only one who knows exactly how she played at the top of her game and knows exactly what she can do at any point or position on the court,she will have pressure all the time to prove her self and everybody that she made good decision and she is not the best when pressure is around.but I thing that the most difficult will be for her coach as he by his interview you can see that he has no idea how she should or how she played at her best.could somebody tells me who advised her to take that guy who came out of sky in her big career at the very important period.he is coach and he doesn't know how the nr1 from last year is playing or played at her best.looks like he really came out of nowhere.why she is playing like this taking people who doesn't know her tennis whe she was on the top of the world.that why last time I told you he is different then Z and his work can't work for Dinara.I don't see him being here more than 5 tournaments.and how he has to feel after what mother said on Z after that success.he will be under most pressure cause he as coach has to prove that he is better and he can only prove it if she will be in 1 year from now nr1 and in at least 2 Slam finals.cause looks like she is now in the same position where she was when starting with Z.by his interview you can see that he doesn't know what he is getting in to.I'm trying to find answers what is Dinara doing with her career but I can't find the answer.most it looks that she is hurt her self like on purpose but she doesn't realize it yet.if this will happen that they meet in the tournament it will be the best think that can happen to us Fans and this case is better then any Mexican soap series.

C. Drone
Jun 10th, 2010, 09:50 AM
shut up, Z... or Z's cousin, or whoever you are.

Caralenko
Jun 10th, 2010, 10:06 AM
So he is confirmed to be with a new WTA player?

The plot thickens.

vanúss
Jun 10th, 2010, 10:11 AM
i don't know if i should be :sobbing: or :rolls: at the prospect of Z being back on the WTA tour with some player that i probably dislike , or that his 'new' player has 50% chance to be playing in Holland next week & in this case another 50% chance to be in Dinara's draw...I'd need alcohol for that :p

i agree with everything you said though about Mama Rausa , the new coach not lasting ect...With Zeljko back it's gonna be even harder for the both of them actually to not be asked questions related to their 'break up' . I really didn't expected him to be back so soon , it cannot be good for Dinara's mental (especially w/ her mother there , it's gonna be 700.000 times more awkward ), unless she really couldn't give a sh!t about it who knows :shrug:

call me delusional though but yesterday i had a feeling that Dinara might be working again with Z...Which is obviously not the case with her rooting for Argentina because her coach is from there & him making her discover Prison Break but it's the 'you know who my coach is' that started this thought :p . Do not worry i'm ready to be proven wrong :lol:

Thanks again Independent for all those informations :worship: ;)

DS.Fan.
Jun 10th, 2010, 11:48 AM
I'll be not used to see him work with other wta player:hysteric:
and I can't see they'll work together again:sad: I don't know Gaston is fit for Dina or not,but we'll know after few tournaments..and I'm a bit uncomfortable about he said he doesn't know exactly how bad Dina's injury was:p

~Kiera~
Jun 10th, 2010, 01:14 PM
Thanks, Independent :) This is going to be more than a little awkward http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee12/sholesshs/Smileys/popcorn.gif

redsonja
Jun 10th, 2010, 01:17 PM
It's not that I'd wish unemployment on the man, but... already? :eek:

call me delusional though but yesterday i had a feeling that Dinara might be working again with Z...Which is obviously not the case with her rooting for Argentina because her coach is from there & him making her discover Prison Break but it's the 'you know who my coach is' that started this thought :p . Do not worry i'm ready to be proven wrong :lol:
I actually had that thought, too, when she was like, oh, there's two other people in my team, but they're not important. I thought, girrrrrrlll... don't even. :lol: But in any case I doubt Zeljko would agree to work with her with another coach "in charge", or with Rausa around at all, or any of a million other things.

I'm with Sarah. Bring the popcorn. And the alcohol. And some tissues.

makini
Jun 10th, 2010, 02:53 PM
This is some crazy soap opera going on here. Him training one of her potential opponents will be awkward but I don't think that she expected him to never work again.

shut up, Z... or Z's cousin, or whoever you are.

That made me laugh, thanks Norbi!

~Kiera~
Jun 10th, 2010, 03:53 PM
It's not that I'd wish unemployment on the man, but... already? :eek:

Seriously, when he said he was taking a break I thought he meant something more along the lines of 2-3 months. I guess he was really bored in Varazdin :p

vanúss
Jun 10th, 2010, 03:56 PM
Well he doesn't have a wife or his daughter there anymore...or Dinara :lol: Varazdin seems like a nice little town but it must be borinnng after a few days !

~Kiera~
Jun 10th, 2010, 04:26 PM
Well he doesn't have a wife or his daughter there anymore...or Dinara :lol: Varazdin seems like a nice little town but it must be borinnng after a few days !

Unless his ex-wife has done a runner with his kid, shouldn't Chiara still be there? :p

vanúss
Jun 10th, 2010, 04:30 PM
Depends , maybe they moved or something :lol:

camilia
Jun 10th, 2010, 05:02 PM
Figured I may as well re-upload all their coaching timeouts to one place.

Safina vs Sugiyama - Sydney 2009

http://i47.tinypic.com/102qrth.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/afh9g6/3

I'll miss your inappropriateness most of all :sobbing:



Safina vs Dementieva - Sydney 2009

CTO 1

http://i47.tinypic.com/2cdab9c.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/afkis4/3


CTO 2

http://i45.tinypic.com/dyu6tg.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/a5hrv8/3




Safina vs Azarenka - IW 2009

http://i47.tinypic.com/2h3blad.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/afkltg/3




Safina vs Pennetta - Stuttgart 2009

http://i50.tinypic.com/21awois.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/a14lrd/3



Safina vs Kuznetsova - Stuttgart 2009

http://i50.tinypic.com/21179xg.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/afk39e/3



Safina vs MJMS - Rome 2009

CTO x 3

http://i49.tinypic.com/i72zo8.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/afkqcl/3



Safina vs Kuznetsova - Rome 2009

http://i49.tinypic.com/33p7m2s.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/ajnf2s/3



Safina vs Schnyder - Madrid 2009

http://i50.tinypic.com/2ex2bso.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/afkozt/3



Safina vs Errani - Portoroz 2009

CTO 1

http://i47.tinypic.com/nfie1c.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/ajnign/3


CTO 2

http://i48.tinypic.com/dyt17k.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/ajnk8p/3

OMG I already miss those moments :sad:

camilia
Jun 10th, 2010, 05:13 PM
I hate soap operas :tape:

Ashi
Jun 10th, 2010, 05:19 PM
To be honest i am kinda over the Dinjan breakup circus. I feel its time to move on.:shrug:

Hoping for some decent results for Dindin on grass.:)

camilia
Jun 10th, 2010, 05:23 PM
To be honest i am kinda over the Dinjan breakup circus. I feel its time to move on.:shrug:

Hoping for some decent results for Dindin on grass.:)

It was fun to watch them together but I made my piece with it even though it's not easy to get over it, now I'm focused on what she did to her hair. Waiting for pics to come out :o

Ashi
Jun 10th, 2010, 05:26 PM
now I'm focused on what she did to her hair. Waiting for pics to come out :o

Yeah, a girl needs to feel good about herself. A new style will do that.:lol:

vanúss
Jun 10th, 2010, 05:49 PM
To be honest i am kinda over the Dinjan breakup circus. I feel its time to move on.:shrug:

Hoping for some decent results for Dindin on grass.:)

Why 'moving on' when it's not necessary :scratch: :p
They're not a Team anymore , that's a clear fact , but Zeljko still exists , wondering what he is up to doesn't stop me from following/supporting/appreciating Dinara :lol:

redsonja
Jun 10th, 2010, 05:53 PM
My brain craves logic. This situation possesses none. Therefore I cannot let go of it until I have twisted it into some kind of sense. :lol:

Ashi
Jun 10th, 2010, 06:05 PM
My brain craves logic. This situation possesses none. Therefore I cannot let go of it until I have twisted it into some kind of sense. :lol:

:lol:

I am afraid of what kind of (real/fabricated) explanation will come out.:scared:I dont want her to be hurt.
Frankly, i dont want one.

Ashi
Jun 10th, 2010, 06:07 PM
Why 'moving on' when it's not necessary :scratch: :p
They're not a Team anymore , that's a clear fact , but Zeljko still exists , wondering what he is up to doesn't stop me from following/supporting/appreciating Dinara :lol:

I meant trying and speculating what went on behind the scenes/ why their partnership didnt sustain etc etc:p

I wish Zeljko all the best on his new assignment.

vanúss
Jun 10th, 2010, 06:23 PM
I meant trying and speculating what went on behind the scenes/ why their partnership didnt sustain etc etc:p

I wish Zeljko all the best on his new assignment.

I'm intrigued so if there's any informations wheter they are true or not coming my way , i'll read them , if there wasn't any it would be fine but it's not the case here .
It's not like we have anything that matter to discuss these days anyway :lol: it will change next week though .

Ashi
Jun 10th, 2010, 06:27 PM
Well, we havent got any new info in the media recently about dinajan. Just a poster's comments.

Although all information is welcome, its not exactly a reliable source. So I dont wanna read too much into it.

vanúss
Jun 10th, 2010, 06:35 PM
Coming from a journalist i wouldn't read too much into it either , and it's not like Independent is affirming anything here :shrug: Only the people concerned know the full story anyway , i'm well aware that what we can think or hear or read is far from the truth , which is why i have no issue reading it all , i know what i believe and what i don't ;)

Ashi
Jun 10th, 2010, 06:45 PM
Yes, we can never be sure about the information, that's why i said i was over it.

~Kiera~
Jun 10th, 2010, 09:43 PM
Old, but adorable :awww:

If there is a new pressure at work on Safina, it wasn't evident on Thursday. After her match she sat cross-legged, leaning against a wall outside the women's locker room. Safina had a phone in each hand and was actually working them both at the same time.

After her postmatch interview, she spotted her coach speaking with a reporter. Making the hush sign from behind, she gleefully snuck up on him, grabbed his shoulders and shrieked in his ear.

Krajan, who tried not to smile, shrugged, rolled his eyes and said, "So, as you can see, she's on a roll right now."

vanúss
Jun 10th, 2010, 09:56 PM
:awww::awww::awww: i remember this...it was so adorable indeed .

redsonja
Jun 11th, 2010, 12:18 AM
Old, but adorable :awww:

I remember this. :awww: Mostly I remember thinking, "Dinara, that is not an effective flirting tactic outside of elementary school." :p :lol:

~Kiera~
Jun 11th, 2010, 12:36 AM
I remember this. :awww: Mostly I remember thinking, "Dinara, that is not an effective flirting tactic outside of elementary school." :p :lol:

She was most confused when he didn't pull her hair in return :p

C. Drone
Jun 11th, 2010, 08:46 AM
To be honest i am kinda over the Dinjan breakup circus. I feel its time to move on.:shrug:

Hoping for some decent results for Dindin on grass.:)

ThaNk YoU!!!111

Why 'moving on' when it's not necessary :scratch: :p
They're not a Team anymore , that's a clear fact , but Zeljko still exists , wondering what he is up to doesn't stop me from following/supporting/appreciating Dinara :lol:

than go to MTF or make a facebook fanpage to him, but don't poo where others eat!



and Independent guy did nothing else, just praised Z for everything, and dissed everbody else! He looks enthusiastic with the kilometer long posts, thats sure, but almost every sentence is just a "theory".

DS.Fan.
Jun 11th, 2010, 09:19 AM
Yes!Yes!I remember it!!I loved her better than before after reading it:hearts:
she is a 8-year-old girl!Never doubt it:angel:

vanúss
Jun 11th, 2010, 10:34 AM
than go to MTF or make a facebook fanpage to him, but don't poo where others eat!


Why do you keep reading this thread knowing exactly what it will be about ? :lol:
Stop coming here if it's to whine every single time :p If you wanna talk about Dinara's Tennis related news then feel free to start the Unicef Open thread and i swear there will be no reason for me to bring Zeljko into that conversation :kiss:

Nina.
Jun 11th, 2010, 03:29 PM
:lol:

I am afraid of what kind of (real/fabricated) explanation will come out.:scared:I dont want her to be hurt.
Frankly, i dont want one.

You really think there will be an explanation. They split :shrug: she has a new coach, he moved on as well. Happend all time in tennis.

Ashi
Jun 11th, 2010, 03:36 PM
You really think there will be an explanation. They split :shrug: she has a new coach, he moved on as well. Happend all time in tennis.

No i dont. I for sure am not pining for info. :lol:. I dont want one. That's why i feel, this is over, time to move on.

I believe someone mentioned an interview with croatian tv........:unsure:

vanúss
Jun 11th, 2010, 04:02 PM
It happens in every sports , period :p

'Apparently' he canceled that interview on Croatian Tv .

Ashi
Jun 11th, 2010, 04:21 PM
'Apparently' he canceled that interview on Croatian Tv .

You must be dissapointed Vaness.:p:lol:

vanúss
Jun 11th, 2010, 04:41 PM
You must be dissapointed Vaness.:p:lol:

Yeah of course because i was really looking forward to him be as dumb as others & start talking to the press when there is no need to :rolleyes:

:yawn:

Ashi
Jun 11th, 2010, 04:46 PM
No way, he's way smarter than that( or atleast smarter than Mama Rausa and Nastya):lol:. And i am sure, even if he had given an interview, he would be as tight lipped as dinara about the termination.

Maybe he could have told us who he's working with next.

vanúss
Jun 11th, 2010, 04:50 PM
I hope he would have been smarter :lol:

Irina123
Jun 11th, 2010, 06:40 PM
I hope he would have been smarter :lol:
If he's going to be a coach he just has to be smarter and keep it tight lipped. ;)

~Kiera~
Jun 13th, 2010, 09:14 PM
It turns out that the WTA player Zeljko is working with is Cibulkova.

redsonja
Jun 13th, 2010, 10:58 PM
I object. I object strongly.

DS.Fan.
Jun 14th, 2010, 01:54 AM
i don't like it!

makini
Jun 14th, 2010, 02:06 AM
This is the first time since this mess started that I really want someone to just hit Zeljko over the head, he couldn't work with someone else. ugh!

osseous
Jun 14th, 2010, 02:30 AM
I object. I object strongly.

+1000000000000000000 :(

Caralenko
Jun 14th, 2010, 04:33 AM
:help: Poor Domi.

Rosie_Emma45
Jun 14th, 2010, 05:09 AM
it is actually shocking news! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSCe8pmTgCk
This is a really cute video about D & Z

DS.Fan.
Jun 14th, 2010, 05:27 AM
I really hate 2010!:fiery: Dina injuried seriuosly(I was so desperate that time)!then left court for 3 months!five stright losses(you know there'll be more losses:scared:)Dinajan broke up and both of them started to cooperate with others:rolleyes:last her ranking will be 500000000000000:help: I'm afraid she will lose confidence:sobbing: The worst thing is that you have to worry about her back while seeing her play.The back injury likes a knife which is hung over the head!

Rosie_Emma45
Jun 14th, 2010, 05:34 AM
I hate 2010 too, I just get so angry when she doesn't do well then the anger turns to sadness. I am afraid she will lose confidence too. Hopefully her new coach can help her!

redsonja
Jun 14th, 2010, 05:42 AM
I feel so bad for her right now it's almost painful. She's so stuck inside her own head, and no one (herself included) seems to know how to help her get out.

My hopes are not high for the new coach, not by any fault of his own. But she seems very much like the kind of person who needs to really trust someone, and he's practically a total stranger. Even when she started working with Zeljko full-time, he'd been her hitting partner for 4-5 months, so she already knew him pretty well. I wish I thought having her mom around would help her, but... I don't.

[sigh] I just have a really bad feeling about the next year or two. She's had a terrible past 12-14 months, mentally and physically, and she seems like she's just spinning her wheels and has no idea where to turn.

Rosie_Emma45
Jun 14th, 2010, 05:54 AM
I am not feeling overly positive about Dinara's chances at Wimbledon and the US open. I agree that she needs to trust someone to work well with her. I am hoping she can get it all together because she can do fantastic things!

Caralenko
Jun 14th, 2010, 06:19 AM
And Rausa says that she hopes she will be "back for the US Open". Really? :o

vanúss
Jun 14th, 2010, 09:14 AM
it is actually shocking news! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSCe8pmTgCk
This is a really cute video about D & Z

LOL , i made that video , one year ago exactly :p Funny how things can change in twelve months :o


[sigh] I just have a really bad feeling about the next year or two. She's had a terrible past 12-14 months, mentally and physically, and she seems like she's just spinning her wheels and has no idea where to turn.

Same here , it just doesn't look good !
Even when she's not playing terribly bad there's still something missing she can fight but she cannot win ! It's just like the old times Pre-Berlin , she doesn't have any confidence ! I want to say that she proved back then that she could be one of the best if not the best for a while , so she can totally do it again but somehow with all the pressure of what she achieved in the past 2 seasons i just can't see her being able to execute that . At the time she had nothing to prove apart from the fact that not only her brother could play Tennis , now i'm sure she feels like she does .

And yeah as i've always said , Dinara has some serious trust issues , that's why i never thought she would ever get ride of Z :lol: Maybe she and Gaston are having a decent Coach/Player relationship as we saw in their first on court coaching but she doesn't need normal ! She's a Safin , her brain is screwed & so is her train of thought , i hope he'll understand her , it seems that it's what was lacking with her previous coaches which probably don't help trust wise .

:spit: at Mama Rausa spreading her wise words about her daughter's near futur...

PS : i'm not sure everything i said makes sense or if i'm not off topic from one sentence to another but whatever :p

C. Drone
Jun 14th, 2010, 10:29 AM
i wonder how long it takes, till Domi gets into Z's panties. Or vice versa.

osseous
Jun 14th, 2010, 03:34 PM
I really hate 2010!:fiery: Dina injuried seriuosly(I was so desperate that time)!then left court for 3 months!five stright losses(you know there'll be more losses:scared:)Dinajan broke up and both of them started to cooperate with others:rolleyes:last her ranking will be 500000000000000:help: I'm afraid she will lose confidence:sobbing: The worst thing is that you have to worry about her back while seeing her play.The back injury likes a knife which is hung over the head!

I feel so bad for her right now it's almost painful. She's so stuck inside her own head, and no one (herself included) seems to know how to help her get out.

My hopes are not high for the new coach, not by any fault of his own. But she seems very much like the kind of person who needs to really trust someone, and he's practically a total stranger. Even when she started working with Zeljko full-time, he'd been her hitting partner for 4-5 months, so she already knew him pretty well. I wish I thought having her mom around would help her, but... I don't.

[sigh] I just have a really bad feeling about the next year or two. She's had a terrible past 12-14 months, mentally and physically, and she seems like she's just spinning her wheels and has no idea where to turn.

I hate to say this but so far, I hate 2010 too. :bigcry: Last January, I thought everything is going on Dinara's way but, goodness, the back injury came and hinder her from playing and now is still a threat to her career. Then she came back, I thought she did a good job on winning her very first match after her 3 months leave. Then, she kept on losing. 5 times in row (please don't make it six, please?). :sobbing: Oh Dinara! It is really hard to see her like this. With everything against her way. :crying2: I hope Dinara gathers all the pieces and put it back together. I really miss seeing healthy Dinara winning. :awww:

When you want something, all the universe conspires to help you achieve it.
~ I hope this quote is true. :tears:

Dinayer
Jun 15th, 2010, 11:27 AM
with Domi? oh well :o good luck :p

camilia
Jun 15th, 2010, 01:28 PM
Would it be extremely mean to say that I don't think Dinara's new coach is going to last that long?!

redsonja
Jun 15th, 2010, 01:40 PM
Would it be extremely mean to say that I don't think Dinara's new coach is going to last that long?!

No. That's not mean, it's realistic. :shrug:

camilia
Jun 15th, 2010, 01:52 PM
No. That's not mean, it's realistic. :shrug:

Good, I hate to be mean all day long :p

~Kiera~
Jun 15th, 2010, 05:16 PM
During today's match

http://i47.tinypic.com/2upbltf.jpg

vanúss
Jun 15th, 2010, 05:55 PM
:inlove:
It was pretty weird to see him and Dejan in Cibulkova's box , good thing Dinara chose that moment to come on Twitter and distract me from that match :lol:

~Kiera~
Jun 15th, 2010, 06:04 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/2d6pda0.jpg

:inlove: Glad to see he's still frowning !
It was pretty weird to see him and Dejan in Cibulkova's box , good thing Dinara chose that moment to come on Twitter and distract me from that awful match :lol:

She was probably trying to distract herself from that match, too :p

nikeshirtoffug
Jun 15th, 2010, 06:16 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/2d6pda0.jpg



I didn't know Dejan knew Gary Busey!

DS.Fan.
Jun 15th, 2010, 07:11 PM
Z didn't(or needn't)comb his hair without Dindin:p
he looks so tired as usual:lol:
Yes,it's so weird to see Z and Dejan sit in domi's box:(

PersephoneDisco
Jun 15th, 2010, 10:47 PM
I didn't know Dejan knew Gary Busey!

[/Snoooooort] :lol:

~Kiera~
Jun 17th, 2010, 12:44 PM
Okay, so it's not D/Z (:sobbing:) and it's not in English, but for those that still care:

http://i48.tinypic.com/zl4u38.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/amfrwm/3

redsonja
Jun 17th, 2010, 12:52 PM
1. Dude's looking rough.
2. He's still in his Adidas stuff? :lol:

~Kiera~
Jun 17th, 2010, 12:59 PM
1. Dude's looking rough.
2. He's still in his Adidas stuff? :lol:

Lacoste really need to help the guy out :p

redsonja
Jun 17th, 2010, 01:47 PM
Lacoste really need to help the guy out :p

Seriously, isn't there at least a Lacoste store at Schiphol or something? Or, I've got an old Lacoste polo he can borrow. It's purple (http://i50.tinypic.com/se83ms.jpg)...

vanúss
Jun 17th, 2010, 01:51 PM
Thank you Sarah !

So i guess it's over we won't have any awesome quotes from Z any time soon ? :o

Like i said on Twitter he needs more time to get ride of his adidas shirts , it's the only thing he has left :lol:

~Kiera~
Jun 17th, 2010, 02:07 PM
I missed this the first time around :eek:

http://i46.tinypic.com/auiip2.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/amoz2p/3

ad-out
Jun 17th, 2010, 04:28 PM
This whole situation just sucks.

makini
Jun 17th, 2010, 08:13 PM
I'm so done with Zeljko, let him go hangout with Domi.

vanúss
Jun 17th, 2010, 08:30 PM
I missed this the first time around :eek:

http://i46.tinypic.com/auiip2.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/amoz2p/3

What exactly is happening here ? I saw this moment live but i was lost and i'm still am :lol:

~Kiera~
Jun 17th, 2010, 08:36 PM
What exactly is happening here ? I saw this moment live but i was lost and i'm still am :lol:

Have a look at what happens in the top right hand corner of the video. There's a clue in the picture :p

redsonja
Jun 17th, 2010, 08:43 PM
Oh. Oops. Well, at least she didn't puke or wet herself. :p

vanúss
Jun 17th, 2010, 09:01 PM
:eek: poor kid .

Dinayer
Jun 18th, 2010, 03:21 PM
Okay, so it's not D/Z (:sobbing:) and it's not in English, but for those that still care:

http://i48.tinypic.com/zl4u38.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/amfrwm/3

this shouldnt be allowed, we need to understand what is he saying :angel:
I'll miss that sexy voice :crying2:

Dinayer
Jun 18th, 2010, 03:21 PM
:eek: poor kid .

+1 :eek:

Dinayer
Jun 18th, 2010, 03:23 PM
1. Dude's looking rough.
2. He's still in his Adidas stuff? :lol:

at least he changed the shirt :worship:

~Kiera~
Jun 18th, 2010, 05:16 PM
http://www.stv.sk/trojka/spravodajstvo/clanok/82798/tenis-cibulkova-si-zatial-pochvaluje-spolupracu-s-novym-trenerom-krajanom

"It all happened very rapidly by the day. It was a rapid change, neither of us expect that we start work so early. This is our first joint tournament and yet the value is very positive. I really like his training and coaching style. Gradually, we get to know and believe that together we will work as long as possible." - Domi on working with Zeljko

http://www.tennismagazine.nl/chalkdust/unicef-open-weblog-rondje-langs-de-velden-(902).html

"I sit in the stands next to Dominika Cibulkova and her new coach Zeljko Krajan (ex Safina) They already scouting their next opponent. When Rus becomes a forehand completely wrong they laugh. They do not seem very impressed."

http://sport.pravda.sk/cibulkovej-novy-kouc-dominika-ma-na-top-10-ale-musi-sa-zlepsit-vo-vsetkom-1na-/sk_stenis.asp?c=A100616_033053_sk_stenis_p28

Cibulkova new coach: Dominika has a Top 10, but must be improved. In all

Three years coached Russian Dinara Safina, and brought her to the forefront of world tennis rankings. When this year's Roland Garros before their paths split, Äeljko Krajan stayed out of work. But not for long. Since last week the 31-year-old Croatian tennis players new coach Slovakian Dominika Cibulkova.

How did you come to Dominika Cibulkova?

Both are well known, because when I have led Dinara Safina, we met regularly in tournaments. I knew without a permanent coach, who traveled with her around the world, so I approached with the offer. While we agree to cooperate to end this season. Until then we'll see how it will look like our communication, whether we understand and will depend on the results we achieve together.

What goals you have set ourselves a new zverenkou?

If you mean a shift in the ranking, so no. First, we must work more on the game. When playing well, the rise in renkingu. My mission is to improve her best game as possible. I know practically everything about it. We'll see how we will succeed in improving it. I believe that Dominica has the potential to be the ten best in the world.

What needs to be improved?

In everything. We need to achieve balanced performance in order to avoid fluctuations game. Dominika needs to become more profesional, take tennis seriously and fully train harder.

You have led the world leader. Cibulkova is now up to 46th place. Do not take it a step backward?

No way For even Dinara I started to train until the unit was. I took over it as the 17th toy world and together we work hard to get on top. Just like I will try with Dominica.

Cibulkova has been accustomed to during the breaks between tournaments to train at home in Bratislava. You stay there, or move somewhere else?

It is not clear. Not so.

Cibulkova has also motivated and looking forward to training hard

As a bolt from the blue. That describes the new man at his side second best tennis player Slovak Dominika Cibulkova. From one day to replace a coach. Äeljko Krajan succeeded Peter Hrunčßka. For tennis fans known name. Former player became the Top 100 after a successful career coach. The inept Dinara Safina did the world leader. Last week he called Cibulkova and became the new coach.

"In such moments, the man grinned from ear to ear. For Krajan is a very renowned coaches, three years led Safina, received up to first place. Once arrived in Bratislava and started to train together," said 21-year-old Slovak.

Krajan interest appreciates. "There was, as it sees potential in me. That has to please everyone. It added it a lot of confidence and also motivation for future work. I still stresses that the more I use my forehand, which I am excellent. I make it a weapon."

About ten years older Croatia is known as very tough and demanding coach. "It requires maximum concentration of me throughout the workout. In Bratislava we spent on the court and nearly three hours. We changed the regime during the tournament. After the match followed by a further evening training and fitness training," describes methods Cibulkova new coach. The team also extended the new fitness instructor, which is Dejan Vojnovič.

In cooperation with pßrdňovej left the tournament in Hertogenbosch. In the Netherlands, played on grass. A Cibulkova not yet succeeded. After the home win over Arantxa Rus are already in the quarterfinals. "In the past I've taken grass sports. But after last year's third round at Wimbledon, I told her I do not have to be underestimated," said former 12th player of the world, which, after Roland Garros fell to the fifth decades.

I believe, however, return the top. "Obey it all. That's why coach aside the original program and the tournament after Wimbledon, I will go for three weeks in Portoroz, Slovenia. There waiting for us hard training on a hard surface and then a series of events in the USA."

~Kiera~
Jun 19th, 2010, 12:06 PM
http://communities.canada.com/montrealgazette/blogs/opencourt/archive/2010/06/19/cibulkova-s-new-coach.aspx?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Cibulkova's new coach

Yes, indeed, it is true.

Slovakian cutie Dominika Cibulkova has snapped up Dinara Safina's former coach, Zeljko Krajan.

She's about a foot shorter than Safina. But somehow we get the distinct impression Cibulkova won't be nearly as pliable.

As one player's husband joked with Open Court yesterday, "It's, like, her third coach in four months. She goes through 'em."

http://i49.tinypic.com/ie0594.jpg

vanúss
Jun 19th, 2010, 03:37 PM
thank you Sarah :)

i won't mind if Cibulkova decides to change her coach one more time :shrug: :lol:

~Kiera~
Jun 19th, 2010, 04:49 PM
Poor Domi. She's not that bad. She just likes to enjoy herself, that's all :p

vanúss
Jun 19th, 2010, 04:55 PM
it's not a bad thing , some people could learn a thing or two about the term 'enjoying yourself' but these days she has a hard time succeeding in one .

~Kiera~
Jun 20th, 2010, 08:38 PM
https://twitter.com/OpenCourt

Saw Dinara Safina's former coach smile. Like a few times. Not sure what was up. Hope it didn't hurt him too much. Must be Cibulkova.

:lol:

Dinayer
Jun 21st, 2010, 05:03 PM
:spit:

PersephoneDisco
Jun 24th, 2010, 12:08 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/51421678@N07/

My photos of D and Z!

Got a vid to upload later :)

osseous
Jun 24th, 2010, 12:11 PM
Thanks Maz! :)

redsonja
Jun 24th, 2010, 01:15 PM
Lexi's gonna love that Dejan crotch shot.

PersephoneDisco
Jun 24th, 2010, 01:19 PM
Domi's mum is so annoying, me and Vanessa learn a new word in Slovak. Pot/Pod. She just kept repeating it like 25 times! I'd take davai anyday :p

And I touched Z's hair. I was feeling very brazen that day :lol: Also he kept starting at me like 4 times :tape:

PersephoneDisco
Jun 24th, 2010, 02:27 PM
http://www.twitvid.com/WEMRL

vanúss
Jun 26th, 2010, 07:09 PM
http://img149.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=img3826n.jpg

The very few pictures i took of Zeljko and Dejan . Sorry for the occasional finger appearing in some shots but i was trying to be discreet...and failed ! Maz took three of them i think :scratch:

Caralenko
Jun 28th, 2010, 09:02 AM
http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad155/mbm91uk/Wimbledon%2026062010/100_2254.jpg

Hitting with Domi

C. Drone
Jun 28th, 2010, 10:10 AM
i knew that Vanessa is loon, but Maz, seriously? i'm so disappointed. :sad:

Caralenko
Jun 28th, 2010, 10:22 AM
Note the lacoste shirt btw :lol: He's officially ova dindins.

vanúss
Jun 28th, 2010, 10:50 AM
Yep he had a Lacoste shirt when we saw him ! At a small tournament especially the first one he could wear his old adidas shirts but at a slam i would have been surprised if it was still the case :lol:

Dinayer
Jun 29th, 2010, 07:11 PM
i knew that Vanessa is loon, but Maz, seriously? i'm so disappointed. :sad:

omg Norbi. you dont know how it feels when you see Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we love him.

http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad155/mbm91uk/Wimbledon%2026062010/100_2254.jpg

Hitting with Domi

:hearts:

PersephoneDisco
Jun 29th, 2010, 08:19 PM
i knew that Vanessa is loon, but Maz, seriously? i'm so disappointed. :sad:

I really was all about sexy Dejan. Seeing Z was so weird though. To know that much about him and have only seen him once for a second before in wimbly 2009 and to be stood behind him was sooooo strange.

vanúss
Aug 2nd, 2010, 10:33 AM
I first posted that in the News & Articles thread but i suppose it should be here :

Both Safina’s mother and Anastasia Myskina criticized Krajan after the split, saying that he did nothing to improve her tennis, although he did bring her to No. 1. Dementieva sees it differently.

“He was working hard with her and he really tried to help her improve and she did improve a lot,” Dementieva said. “It was very unique situation and she was winning so much and people were a little overexcited over the results. Maybe it wasn’t smart to play so many tournaments, but at the same time she wanted to play and no one pushed her to do it. In the end, it all comes down to you own decisions and she old enough to make them.”

Elena is def. smarter than both Myskina and Rausa :lol:

camilia
Aug 2nd, 2010, 12:12 PM
I first posted that in the News & Articles thread but i suppose it should be here :



Elena is def. smarter than both Myskina and Rausa :lol:

Word! Lena D knows what logic means :yeah:

~Kiera~
Aug 2nd, 2010, 12:29 PM
Perhaps Elena and Dinara could be BFFs? Elena seems like a discreet girl who chooses her words carefully. I'm sure she wouldn't blab to the press like mami or Nastya did :o

vanúss
Aug 2nd, 2010, 12:36 PM
Nah that spot is taken ! Dinara already has a new BFF , Ivanovic .

~Kiera~
Aug 2nd, 2010, 12:47 PM
It's like dumb and dumber :o

vanúss
Aug 2nd, 2010, 12:55 PM
It's like dumb and dumber :o

:spit:

By the way, on Forty Deuce there was one more word to that Elena quote at the very end which was :

In the end, it all comes down to you own decisions and she old enough to make them, right ?

Somehow it makes it even better :p

camilia
Aug 2nd, 2010, 01:18 PM
Perhaps Elena and Dinara could be BFFs? Elena seems like a discreet girl who chooses her words carefully. I'm sure she wouldn't blab to the press like mami or Nastya did :o

It's like dumb and dumber :o

:spit:

DS.Fan.
Aug 2nd, 2010, 05:15 PM
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/300/3e22f203bc1048c9d53f7c1.jpg :sad: How could Dinajan separate!:(

DS.Fan.
Aug 2nd, 2010, 05:20 PM
Dinara is not old enough to make her own decision,it's sure:o if she could,she wouldnt fire Z.Then u can see how she was playing on the court now!Totally opposite to what Z told her:rolleyes:

~Kiera~
Aug 2nd, 2010, 05:23 PM
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/300/3e22f203bc1048c9d53f7c1.jpg :sad: How could Dinajan separate!:(

Because life is very, very, cruel? :sobbing:

vanúss
Aug 2nd, 2010, 05:28 PM
Dinajan :lol: I'll never get used to it !

Life is cruel indeed :sad: Especially when you see how great she is ever since :)

Sarah do you by any chance have some more CTO's to share ? :

camilia
Aug 2nd, 2010, 05:37 PM
Because life is very, very, cruel? :sobbing:

Very very very cruel :bigcry:

~Kiera~
Aug 2nd, 2010, 06:28 PM
Sarah do you by any chance have some more CTO's to share ? :

Yeah, there's a few left. I guess I didn't finish uploading them all to the same account. I promise to finish it off soon :p

Very very very cruel :bigcry:

It's like life kicks you when you're already down. I mean, it's tough enough that she had to split with Zeljko (:sobbing:) but to replace him with Gaston? That's just wrong.

Nobody will ever match the greatness that was Dinara and Zeljko :sad:

vanúss
Aug 2nd, 2010, 06:43 PM
Seriously when i got to Roland Garros and found out that Croatia had been replaced by Argentina (quite literaly now :o), i was crushed .

Their practice sessions were pretty boring, he was principally boosting her ego even when she couldn't get the ball in, or i wasn't aware that she was practicing for her doubles match :shrug:

I just have 0 faith in that collaboration and not just because i miss Zeljko .

Nobody will ever match the greatness that was Dinara and Zeljko :sad:

One of a kind ! Too bad Dinara doesn't seem to realize that...

~Kiera~
Aug 2nd, 2010, 06:55 PM
Yes, because that's totally going to help. I can, erm, see the improvement as we speak :unsure:

One of a kind ! Too bad Dinara doesn't seem to realize that...

If I could sing, I'd be belting out a Joni Mitchell song right about now :p

http://i30.tinypic.com/29epqnl.gif

:awww: I need to stop looking through my folders :o

vanúss
Aug 2nd, 2010, 07:03 PM
http://i30.tinypic.com/29epqnl.gif

:awww: I need to stop looking through my folders :o

:awww: i loved their reaction everytime one of them appeared on the big screen :lol:

If I could sing, I'd be belting out a Joni Mitchell song right about now :p

Just for that reference i adore you :kiss: But hey not being able to sing shouldn't stop anyone :p

~Kiera~
Aug 2nd, 2010, 07:16 PM
:awww: i loved their reaction everytime one of them appeared on the big screen :lol:

http://i31.tinypic.com/2ns2cll.gif

What's with all the blushing, guys? :awww:

Just for that reference i adore you :kiss: But hey not being able to sing shouldn't stop anyone :p

True enough. It's never stopped my sister :o

vanúss
Aug 2nd, 2010, 10:02 PM
:rolls: that gif is awesome, Dinara's attempt at a discreet look to see if they're still on and Z being as red as his (favorite) shirt, is hilarious :p

redsonja
Aug 2nd, 2010, 11:40 PM
Ah, memory lane... back when people were actually happy and Dinara could play tennis.

I need a drink now.

~Kiera~
Aug 2nd, 2010, 11:45 PM
I need a drink now.

I'm not sure that's a good idea ;)

redsonja
Aug 3rd, 2010, 12:08 AM
I'm not sure that's a good idea ;)

Please, when it comes to dealing with this situation, drinking is pretty much the only good idea.

~Kiera~
Aug 3rd, 2010, 12:36 AM
Please, when it comes to dealing with this situation, drinking is pretty much the only good idea.

You know what would be great? Dinara (finally!) getting drunk and making a late night phonecall. I think that would solve a lot :p

vanúss
Aug 3rd, 2010, 12:51 AM
Q. Since February of this year you are working with a new coach. How important are the coaches in the silver medal and in general in your career right now, because you are winning tournaments and playing finals?


DINARA SAFINA: Well, I think Zeljko, he's one of the most important person in my life. What he did to me, like how he teach me to play and to control my emotions. I mean, I had many coaches, but they could not deal with this. He just changed me. I trust him fully. I think I trust him more than myself because he even tell me the things that I can do. When I start doing them, I've never even realized that I could ever do them.
With Dejan, he just helps me to show my game, that I'm a little bit fitter on the court, that I can play my game. But, I don't know, Zeljko, I have to thank God that I met him ever in my life.

Your loss, Dinara . :tape:

DS.Fan.
Aug 3rd, 2010, 02:36 AM
Dinin,u cant forget what u said:sad:

~Kiera~
Aug 3rd, 2010, 03:04 AM
Dinin,u cant forget what u said:sad:

You can't erase memories, no matter how hard you try :)

vanúss
Aug 3rd, 2010, 04:52 AM
You can't erase memories, not matter how hard you try :)

This ! She cannot, as much as she wants to be 'quiet inside' :o
Plus, it's not like it was the only time she professed her 'love' for Zeljko in one of her press conferences, she's done that for the better part of the past two years .

It's been over two months now and i still don't understand, it annoys me so much :banghead:

vanúss
Aug 3rd, 2010, 05:31 AM
I don't even wanna read the press conference that will follow...:o

DS.Fan.
Aug 3rd, 2010, 05:46 AM
waiting for her praise her Great coaches:rolleyes:

~Kiera~
Aug 3rd, 2010, 05:58 AM
Whatever. I still hate her new team.

vanúss
Aug 3rd, 2010, 06:17 AM
It's clearly not a victory wheter it's a first round match or a slam final, that is gonna make me like them .

~Kiera~
Aug 3rd, 2010, 06:29 PM
http://twitpic.com/2aw387

http://i37.tinypic.com/2lawopd.jpg

He looks good in a shirt :hearts:

vanúss
Aug 3rd, 2010, 07:17 PM
:awww: Lovely picture (still love his arms :secret:)

camilia
Aug 3rd, 2010, 07:39 PM
Why the fire, is it that cold?

vanúss
Aug 3rd, 2010, 08:24 PM
In case i'm not the only one who just noticed this moment at the end of the LA 2008 Final :

http://yfrog.com/e4cutenessoverloadz

:awww:

PersephoneDisco
Aug 3rd, 2010, 08:49 PM
In case i'm not the only one who just noticed this moment at the end of the LA 2008 Final :

http://yfrog.com/e4cutenessoverloadz

:awww:

Dejan's reaction is what I remember the most from that title! :hearts:

~Kiera~
Aug 3rd, 2010, 08:54 PM
In case i'm not the only one who just noticed this moment at the end of the LA 2008 Final :

http://yfrog.com/e4cutenessoverloadz

:awww:

:awww:

Dinara and Zeljko: acting inappropriately since 2008 :p

camilia
Aug 3rd, 2010, 09:44 PM
How I miss those moments!

DS.Fan.
Aug 3rd, 2010, 10:03 PM
z looks good!!Love it!that video is so cute!Thanks Vane!Good memories! Loool..they were always special!

redsonja
Aug 3rd, 2010, 11:25 PM
He should definitely wear button downs and jeans all the time. It's a good look for him. :o Lacoste should be able to work that out.

~Kiera~
Aug 3rd, 2010, 11:36 PM
He should definitely wear button downs and jeans all the time. It's a good look for him. :o Lacoste should be able to work that out.

Perhaps we could suggest it to them? Zeljko + shirt = win.

redsonja
Aug 3rd, 2010, 11:57 PM
Perhaps we could suggest it to them? Zeljko + shirt = win.

Dear Lacoste Suggestion Box...

~Kiera~
Aug 4th, 2010, 12:50 AM
http://img190.imageshack.us/i/74135755.mp4/

Who could forget this? The greatest video of all time.

"700,000% frame"
"You going crazy sometimes now"
"Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah"
"A reminder she won the set 6-4"
"She sees that you are shitting the pants"

:worship:

vanúss
Aug 4th, 2010, 01:02 AM
Who could forget this? The greatest video of all time.

"700,000% frame"
"You going crazy sometimes now"
"Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah"
"A reminder she won the set 6-4"
"She sees that you are shitting the pants"

:worship:

:rolls::rolls::rolls:

This is the greatest thing ever ! So many gems in each of them . I could watch this all day long and never get tire of it :lol:

Where am i gonna get my new expressions now ? :sobbing:
I wish Zeljko talked English with Dominika , it's unfair that i can understand Spanish though :o :p

DS.Fan.
Aug 4th, 2010, 01:15 AM
sorry domi lost.hmmm....when i remember that player is not DinDin,I'm a bit wanna cry!and It's so ridiculous to see a Horribe uncle with our Dina!Cruel!Cruel!Cruel!

DS.Fan.
Aug 4th, 2010, 11:12 PM
whyyy Gaston is still with Dinara?Totally cant bear him anymore?does he know how dina played when she was on her best?dose he know Dinara and her game?does he has the quilication with Dinara?????

vanúss
Aug 4th, 2010, 11:28 PM
:scratch: I'd say No to all of that and some more, but what do i know ?
I'm not very fair on that subject but as always i'm waiting to be proven wrong, if that time ever comes, but i like being right so really i don't mind :angel:

~Kiera~
Aug 5th, 2010, 10:21 PM
Photo from Forty Deuce (http://cowbell.typepad.com/forty_deuce/)

http://i36.tinypic.com/5b1q4m.jpg

She looks so tiny next to him. Must be those strong upper arms ;)

vanúss
Aug 5th, 2010, 10:39 PM
:) it probably is !

That very bright pink polo looks familiar ?

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/79/osports2945718.jpg

:p

~Kiera~
Aug 5th, 2010, 10:55 PM
I'm being totally serious for a moment, but has he been working out? His shoulders look broader.

vanúss
Aug 5th, 2010, 11:01 PM
I'm being totally serious for a moment, but has he been working out? His shoulders look broader.

He sure did ! I mean i think so yeah :lol:
I already thought so with that shot at the Players Party .

DS.Fan.
Aug 6th, 2010, 02:38 AM
the t-shirt was worn in China Open last year,when they arrived at the airport

~Kiera~
Aug 8th, 2010, 10:39 PM
Safina vs Sugiyama - Sydney 2009

http://i47.tinypic.com/102qrth.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/afh9g6/3



Safina vs Dementieva - Sydney 2009

CTO 1

http://i47.tinypic.com/2cdab9c.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/afkis4/3


CTO 2

http://i45.tinypic.com/dyu6tg.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/a5hrv8/3




Safina vs Azarenka - IW 2009

http://i47.tinypic.com/2h3blad.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/afkltg/3




Safina vs Pennetta - Stuttgart 2009

http://i50.tinypic.com/21awois.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/b871v9/3



Safina vs Kuznetsova - Stuttgart 2009

http://i50.tinypic.com/21179xg.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/afk39e/3



Safina vs MJMS - Rome 2009

CTO x 3

http://i49.tinypic.com/i72zo8.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/afkqcl/3



Safina vs Kuznetsova - Rome 2009

http://i49.tinypic.com/33p7m2s.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/ajnf2s/3



Safina vs Schnyder - Madrid 2009

http://i50.tinypic.com/2ex2bso.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/afkozt/3



Safina vs Errani - Portoroz 2009

CTO 1

http://i47.tinypic.com/nfie1c.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/ajnign/3


CTO 2

http://i48.tinypic.com/dyt17k.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/ajnk8p/3



Safina vs Jankovic - Cincinnati 2009


http://i34.tinypic.com/5l11ex.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/b800m0/3



Safina vs Chang - Tokyo 2009


http://i38.tinypic.com/2dalkc4.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/b84di9/3

(audio is off)


That's 2009 finished, as promised.

~Kiera~
Aug 8th, 2010, 11:42 PM
Safina vs Radwanska - Sydney 2010

http://i36.tinypic.com/jj68vl.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/b84hza/3



Safina vs Dementieva - Sydney 2010

http://i34.tinypic.com/2ywcvtx.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/b84jmo/3



Safina vs Peer - Stuttgart 2010

CTO 1

http://i37.tinypic.com/2rmp8au.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/b84ket/3


CTO 2

http://i38.tinypic.com/1431iq9.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/b84kup/3



Safina vs - Zakopalova - Madrid 2010

http://i36.tinypic.com/23uv8f7.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/b84lfc/3


And that's it :sad:

redsonja
Aug 9th, 2010, 12:38 AM
I wish I could get these on a DVD and watch them on my TV. I mean... there was just so much going on there. So much. A film major could write a thesis on them.

DS.Fan.
Aug 9th, 2010, 05:51 AM
Thanks a lot Sarah:kiss: I miss coco team coaching time on court:sobbing: They're amazing when they were together!!:sad:

vanúss
Aug 9th, 2010, 10:30 AM
Thanks Sarah :awww:

Sydney was always amazing, there's too many not so subtle things happening to point them all out :p
Madrid, the last one :sobbing:

~Kiera~
Aug 10th, 2010, 03:14 PM
Safina vs Tanasugarn - s'Hertogenbosch 2008

http://i36.tinypic.com/33fgeno.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m/b8l1td/3

http://tinypic.com/m/b8l1zt/3

vanúss
Aug 10th, 2010, 07:50 PM
I've never seen this match, since we all know the result i never thought that i should watch it afterwards but i'm glad you got the highlight of the match :p

:haha: at the way she tells him to come, she's slightly pissed :lol:

~Kiera~
Aug 24th, 2010, 10:02 PM
http://i36.tinypic.com/14v0ah2.jpg

vanúss
Aug 24th, 2010, 10:27 PM
:awww: Thanks Sarah !

Zeljko doing a Forest Gump impersonation :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bellyflopz/4914785975/

redsonja
Aug 25th, 2010, 01:41 AM
http://i36.tinypic.com/14v0ah2.jpg

Damn, bitches. Someone's definitely been lifting. :eek: :yeah:

DS.Fan.
Aug 25th, 2010, 01:45 AM
:hearts:the pics..z looks great!!...thank u sarah and Vane!!!I hope t-shirt is Adidas:bigcry:

~Kiera~
Aug 25th, 2010, 01:34 PM
http://www.jaegersberg-sport.de/LJ/news/08-Februar.shtm

http://i37.tinypic.com/v6sx2e.jpg

Feb 21, 2008 A good old friend from Varazdin, the neighboring city of her birth Cakovec met Lana in Doha. Zeljko Krajan, the former number 88 of the world rankings and long-Croatian Daviscupspieler trained, the Russian world champion Dinara Safina. Lana and Zeljko have known each other since almost 20 years and have always liked.

vanúss
Aug 25th, 2010, 02:18 PM
Thanks !

For a good amount of time i was like "Doha, February, whaaat ?! :scratch:"

~Kiera~
Aug 25th, 2010, 04:54 PM
Pic spam!

http://i38.tinypic.com/2vbwjdu.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/hx9h6w.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/xmsc5s.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/2qbaj3q.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/avsvvn.jpg

vanúss
Aug 25th, 2010, 05:19 PM
:hearts: i was leaning toward my laptop screen and bounced backward when the Madrid picture appeared :p Perhaps i should upload that video again, i did it recently but didn't kept the link i think :scratch:

:sad: I'm still not used to the situation, i don't think i will anytime soon anyway :lol:

DS.Fan.
Aug 25th, 2010, 05:31 PM
I love the pics and video from Marid cerenomy best:inlove: also love this one
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/5856/x1664f00b.jpg:p

~Kiera~
Aug 25th, 2010, 05:35 PM
:hearts: i was leaning toward my laptopt screen and bounced backward when the Madrid picture appeared :p

Those pics are certainly... special :p

http://i50.tinypic.com/14jpb3r.jpg