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PersephoneDisco
Aug 12th, 2009, 02:00 PM
Mmmph, Dinara, move on to that. He is so cute and can pick out a nice Adidas shirt.

Otherwise I'm so onto that :hearts:
Allons-y Dina! :p

vanúss
Aug 12th, 2009, 02:01 PM
the guy that was her sparing partner in Portoroz is no longer there , i guess she rented him for her time in Slovenia :rolleyes:

by the way no signs of Ronen either , did she already fired him ? :lol:

PersephoneDisco
Aug 12th, 2009, 02:02 PM
Great, *he* was there too. Sorry, Marko. :rolleyes:

Gosh :rolleyes: I bet the air turned chilly after he arrived, such a downer :p

Ashi
Aug 12th, 2009, 02:05 PM
http://mpcardenas.smugmug.com/photos/617342548_ZR5jH-X3.jpg
Looks like she took a *break* from Z, and she's smiling during practice!:hearts:.

tejmeglekvßr
Aug 12th, 2009, 02:23 PM
so sad to see the big difference between matchface and practiceface. :awww:

DS.Fan.
Aug 12th, 2009, 02:32 PM
so sad to see the big difference between matchface and practiceface. :awww:

Yeah!:awww:
Marko Dina Z :hearts:

nikeshirtoffug
Aug 12th, 2009, 02:42 PM
Yeah:lol: Love your avi:hearts:


Thanks. She's the cutest. :)

redsonja
Aug 12th, 2009, 03:48 PM
Mmmph, Dinara, move on to that. He is so cute and can pick out a nice Adidas shirt.

Fo realz. He's almost as tall as you, too, Dinara. Well. He's closer.

camilia
Aug 12th, 2009, 04:04 PM
Fo realz. He's almost as tall as you, too, Dinara. Well. He's closer.

Close enough:p

Aleksandrina
Aug 14th, 2009, 02:35 AM
LA

http://mpcardenas.smugmug.com/photos/619145457_MEgJP-L.jpg

Aleksandrina
Aug 14th, 2009, 02:36 AM
http://mpcardenas.smugmug.com/photos/619145637_Ljywt-L.jpg

DS.Fan.
Aug 14th, 2009, 03:28 AM
Thanks Sasha:kiss:
Why Marko and Z didn't help Dina:sad:

redsonja
Aug 14th, 2009, 03:59 AM
Why Marko and Z didn't help Dina:sad:

Funnier to watch her try to do it on her own. :lol:

vanúss
Aug 14th, 2009, 04:32 AM
Funnier to watch her try to do it on her own. :lol:

And i totally agree :haha:
She's so awkward to watch it's awfully funny :lol:

DS.Fan.
Aug 14th, 2009, 07:20 AM
Funnier to watch her try to do it on her own. :lol:

:haha: Maybe they forgot Dina is a girl:unsure: Poor Dina:tears:

Ashi
Aug 14th, 2009, 07:38 AM
Yeah chivalry is dead:rolleyes:, but dina likes to do her own thing so its fine;)

lilimi
Aug 14th, 2009, 08:40 AM
And i totally agree :haha:
She's so awkward to watch it's awfully funny :lol:

it's our Dindin! :hearts: :lol:

http://mpcardenas.smugmug.com/photos/619145457_MEgJP-L.jpg
Marko : Let me do this for you Dinara...
Dina : Oh, no, thank you, I have to test my hand...
http://mpcardenas.smugmug.com/photos/619145637_Ljywt-L.jpg
Marko : Ok :sad:

camilia
Aug 14th, 2009, 12:43 PM
I can't see the pics Sasha :(

vanúss
Aug 14th, 2009, 12:48 PM
Can you now Cami ?

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/2852/619145457megjpl.jpg
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/5831/619145637ljywtl.jpg

PersephoneDisco
Aug 14th, 2009, 01:39 PM
pwahahaha :rolls:

So awesome :lol: thanks sasha!

camilia
Aug 14th, 2009, 04:08 PM
Yes I can, thanks Vanessa :kiss:

ad-out
Aug 14th, 2009, 04:38 PM
SO funny.. I was thinking the same thing about him helping her when I first saw the pictures..

PersephoneDisco
Aug 14th, 2009, 04:41 PM
Guess he's just there to look good :hearts: and enhance her general awkwardness :p

vanúss
Aug 14th, 2009, 04:49 PM
it's our Dindin! :hearts: :lol:

http://mpcardenas.smugmug.com/photos/619145457_MEgJP-L.jpg
Marko : Let me do this for you Dinara...
Dina : Oh, no, thank you, I have to test my hand...
http://mpcardenas.smugmug.com/photos/619145637_Ljywt-L.jpg
Marko : Ok :sad:

God poor Marko , he always look miserable :p

In the seven dwarfs so far we have :
-Dopey http://www.snowwhitetest.com/idopey/
-Grumpy http://www.snowwhitetest.com/igrumpy/

:bounce:

I just did the personnality test and i'm "Sleepy" so if she wants one more dwarf in her team :cool:

~Kiera~
Aug 16th, 2009, 12:59 PM
From her post match interview after the Peng match

Q. Today we were talking to Kim, and we said who has really made a difference in their game since you've been gone. She talked about you and how in all aspects from your style to your physique you're totally different. How would you say you've chanced since she's been retired?

DINARA SAFINA: Well, definitely, you know, I been working very hard. You know, I would say since I'm working with this coach I changed a lot. You know, he's the person that I trust, you know, and I had to do some changes.

I mean, to say honestly I been overweight, so he said, Dinars, you need to lose weight. So we find doctor to help me like a dietician, so I have a dietician now.

Another thing I needed to improve was the physical, so I been working with the fitness coach at that time. Now I don't work with him anymore. Still I think he did an amazing job with me. I made such a big jump, you know. So we're always looking for something to get me better.

I trust this person, and I know that he doesn't stop from improving me and he's always looking for the best for me. That's important.

Zac and Dinars :hearts:

vanúss
Aug 16th, 2009, 01:04 PM
Dinars :awww: it's much better than Honey :p

I just Love Love Love the things they keep saying about each other :hearts:

:worship: at the mention of Dejan's work :kiss:

Thanks Sarah !

camilia
Aug 16th, 2009, 04:58 PM
He really deserves every nice word being said about him :awww:

PersephoneDisco
Aug 17th, 2009, 12:00 AM
We've heard this nickname all the time in google translate :rolls:

Dejan :yeah:

~Kiera~
Aug 17th, 2009, 12:04 AM
First coaching timeout

http://img190.imageshack.us/i/cto1b.mp4/

(The audio is off, but I can't change that)

vanúss
Aug 17th, 2009, 12:09 AM
Thanks Sarah :worship:

I did wonder why she didn't called him sooner :shrug:
The commentators on the French TV were :eek: when they saw that right after she first called him her game changed a bit and that she went on to win the two following games !

PersephoneDisco
Aug 17th, 2009, 12:14 AM
thanks sarah!

LOLZ - "stubborn :rolleyes:"

~Kiera~
Aug 17th, 2009, 12:17 AM
Coaching timeout #2

http://img190.imageshack.us/i/cto2.mp4/

I did wonder why she didn't called him sooner :shrug:

I was sure she'd call him after the 1st set. I think he wanted to go to her. Pam was talking to him (off camera) and she mentioned how passive he thought Dina was being and that she looked like she had no tactics.

PersephoneDisco
Aug 17th, 2009, 12:20 AM
maybe it was prep for US Open? :shrug:

makini
Aug 17th, 2009, 12:22 AM
Coaching timeout #2

http://img190.imageshack.us/i/cto2.mp4/



I was sure she'd call him after the 1st set. I think he wanted to go to her. Pam was talking to him (off camera) and she mentioned how passive he thought Dina was being and that she looked like she had no tactics.

I was sure that she would call him too. I think that she is preparing for when she has to face it alone. It's a good strategy to practice but she really needed a pep talk after the 1st set. She didn't look at him nearly as much as she usually did. Which only means that she didn't look at him after every point.

vanúss
Aug 17th, 2009, 12:23 AM
that's what i was thinking too ! I was expecting him to yell at her when she finally did call him and ask her why she didn't did that sooner :lol: it's like EVERYONE expected her to do it right then :shrug:

thanks for the videos ! at least for that tournament we have something to look back on with those on court coaching :p

vanúss
Aug 17th, 2009, 12:28 AM
maybe it was prep for US Open? :shrug:

You know what i really think it is ! And i'm not saying that because she lost so i want to find an excuse for it because losing wasn't necessary to prepare the USO :lol: but i think that right now they are all about the USO ! Like Emilie Loit said after Dina did one great dropshot , it's something new from her game she couldn't recall when she did as many as she did in the last three days and she went on to say like Dina said in Portoroz that she still had many things to improve and that it's a good thing since she's already #1 right now !
Like Z said if she has to lose a couple of matches Third round or Final to get better , i'm 700.000% fine with it :shrug:

vanúss
Aug 17th, 2009, 12:33 AM
Isn't it ironic that the music on that last changeovers was Staying Alive ? :haha:

You know its all right. its ok. I'll live to see another day.

~Kiera~
Aug 17th, 2009, 12:45 AM
Isn't it ironic that the music on that last changeovers was Staying Alive ? :haha:

The DJ has a sense of humour. Yesterday, s/he played a Madness song during the Jankovic vs Dementieva match :lol:

~Kiera~
Aug 17th, 2009, 01:40 AM
Another version of the coaching timeouts. It seems Eurosport showed about another minute of the 2nd timeout. I don't think Z was expecting Dina to jump up like that mid-sentence :lol:

http://img190.imageshack.us/i/vts0110a.mp4/

(The DJ definitely has a sense of humour. "Who You Gonna Call? Ghostbusters!" for the 1st timeout?)

nikeshirtoffug
Aug 17th, 2009, 01:42 AM
Her jumping up mid sentence was the highlight of the match for me.

Lynn Welch: "Time!"
Zac: "blahdy, blah, blah--"
Dinara: "I'm out! Bye, sucker."

vanúss
Aug 17th, 2009, 01:47 AM
:haha: i just love it because you could cut out Z off the screen and you wouldn't even know that there's someone next to her , saying 700.000 words a minute right there :spit:

and what the hell was going on with her hand ? :lol: i giggled when Z looked while talking to see what the matter was :lol:

Lmao @ Z being lost for word when Dina jumps out of her seat : it's , it's...Come on

PersephoneDisco
Aug 17th, 2009, 01:50 AM
OMG. So glad there's video of that :rolls: Zac was a little taken aback but he wasn't gonna be kept silent by it! "....come on!"

:haha: Ghostbusters and then Staying Alive? Yep, the Safin Demon was not going anywhere :p

Love her tactics to get the coaching timeout over and done with, she drinks her water, wripes her face and picks at her nails and hands. And that sidewards pleading glance at Lynn during the middle was not lost on me :lol:

vanúss
Aug 17th, 2009, 01:53 AM
OMG. So glad there's video of that :rolls:

:haha: Ghostbusters and then Staying Alive? Yep, the Safin Demon was not going anywhere :p

Love her tactics to get the coaching timeout over and done with, she drinks her water, wripes her face and picks at her nails and hands. And that sidewards pleading glance at Lynn during the middle was not lost on me :lol:

:spit: hurry up pleaseee *puppy face*
Thank god she called him twice ! if we didn't had that from the match it would have been just sad now it's funny :p

tejmeglekvßr
Aug 17th, 2009, 09:08 AM
yeah, so much better we have this stupid comedy, than winning a stupid match. well played Team Coconut! keep going! :rolleyes:

~Kiera~
Aug 17th, 2009, 12:03 PM
http://i30.tinypic.com/ajlbir.jpg

http://i26.tinypic.com/2a7bcoy.jpg

vanúss
Aug 17th, 2009, 12:43 PM
:awww: i love how Marko and Zac seems to share the cap :haha: One day Z has it then the next Marko take it back :lol:

camilia
Aug 17th, 2009, 09:58 PM
Thank for all the videos Sarah :)

Nina.
Aug 18th, 2009, 11:05 AM
yeah, so much better we have this stupid comedy, than winning a stupid match. well played Team Coconut! keep going! :rolleyes:

:spit:

~Kiera~
Aug 18th, 2009, 11:52 AM
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/im-no-1-in-the-world-and-i-dont-care-about-anything-else-safina-says/article1255407/

There is a surefire way to turn sunny Dinara Safina into someone more sombre - bring up the subject of her being ranked No. 1 because of her solid performances despite not having a Grand Slam title among her results.

It is a rather tedious topic for her just about everywhere she goes, as she is contrasted with Serena Williams, who has won three Grand Slams but no other WTA Tour titles.

Yesterday it surfaced again during pretournament chats she had with media at the Rogers Cup.

"I have no problem with it," she said, giving a blunt, pre-emptory response. "I'm No. 1 in the world and I don't care about anything else."

Safina has played in eight finals in 2009, including losing to Williams 6-0, 6-3 at the Australian Open and 6-4, 6-2 to Svetlana Kuznetsova at Roland Garros. Safina has won three titles. So far this year, Williams has played in only three finals, with her two victories coming at Wimbledon and in Australia.

In her family, Safina is not the only one who has grown weary of the questioning of her legitimacy to be No. 1. Last week at the Rogers Cup in Montreal, her brother, Marat Safin, a former No. 1 (2000) himself, gave a spirited defence of his sister.

"Nobody believed she was going to be No. 1 in the world, nobody believed two or three years ago that she was even going to be top 10," he said. "A lot of people are giving her trouble. Okay, she's No. 1 in the world but she has never won a Grand Slam. But she's there, trying.

"I'm really proud of her, and I tell everybody to fuck off basically in every one of [my] press conferences. She would too but she's too polite."

He also praised her work ethic.

"For her, everything is a battle. She's such a hard worker. She spends so much time on the court."

The six-foot Dinara does not have the fluid athleticism of the 6-foot-4 Marat.

Nor does she have his crackerjack two-handed backhand, but she has powerful, if somewhat mechanical, ground strokes and a potent, if sometimes wayward, serve.

Safina's mother, tennis coach Raouza Islanova, has been a big influence on both her and Marat. But it has been more an inborn drive that has been responsible for her success.

"It's hard to say that I was expecting it," reigning French Open champion and fellow Russian Svetlana Kuznetsova said about Safina's climb to the top of the rankings, "but she's a hard worker. She can work as hard as anybody and she's very professional."

Though Safina has earned nearly $9-million (U.S.) in career prize money, that is not what motivates her. "It's just the passion for the sport," she insists. "I do it not for the money, the money comes after. For me it's love for tennis. I really love to compete in this sport I've been playing since I was a kid."

Much like Marat, she does not hide her emotions on court, appearing at times tortured with frustration. As with Marat, there is a compelling train-wreck-about-to-happen aspect to watching her.

With the tour's new rules permitting on-court coaching, the miked conversations between her and her coach, Zeljko Krajan of Serbia, have become must-see viewing for television viewers. Usually he harangues her to play more aggressively and she sits sullenly listening.

"He pushes me because he knows how I am," she said. "But I take it because I know he wants the best for me."

The Safin family humour comes out when she is asked if she can ever laugh with Krajan when he comes out on the court. "Never," she instantly answers with a big smile. "I wish that for once he could say, 'Oh, you're doing good.' But when it's good, I never call him [onto the court]. Only when it's bad.

"Like yesterday [on Sunday, Safina lost 6-4, 6-2 in the final in Cincinnati to Jelena Jankovic], he said, 'You only call me when something is terrible, it's already too late.' He tried to help, but I knew what I had to do but I didn't manage to do it."

Unlike that all too predictable question about the rankings she is so often asked, Safina was happy to respond to an inquiry about the interactions with her coach, and more than willing to acknowledge that they can appear comical for those observing from the outside.

Dinayer
Aug 18th, 2009, 12:00 PM
http://i30.tinypic.com/ajlbir.jpg

http://i26.tinypic.com/2a7bcoy.jpg

:awww:
thanks Sarah!

vanúss
Aug 18th, 2009, 12:42 PM
With the tour's new rules permitting on-court coaching, the miked conversations between her and her coach, Zeljko Krajan of Serbia, have become must-see viewing for television viewers. Usually he harangues her to play more aggressively and she sits sullenly listening.

"He pushes me because he knows how I am," she said. "But I take it because I know he wants the best for me."

The Safin family humour comes out when she is asked if she can ever laugh with Krajan when he comes out on the court. "Never," she instantly answers with a big smile. "I wish that for once he could say, 'Oh, you're doing good.' But when it's good, I never call him [onto the court]. Only when it's bad.

"Like yesterday [on Sunday, Safina lost 6-4, 6-2 in the final in Cincinnati to Jelena Jankovic], he said, 'You only call me when something is terrible, it's already too late.' He tried to help, but I knew what I had to do but I didn't manage to do it."

Unlike that all too predictable question about the rankings she is so often asked, Safina was happy to respond to an inquiry about the interactions with her coach, and more than willing to acknowledge that they can appear comical for those observing from the outside.

OMG :spit: That is SO awesome ! :rolls: :rolls:
I started realising how "comical" they were for also other people than us during Sunday's match .
Emilie Loit kept saying how intense and funny their on court coaching usually is and that it would be very interresting for her to call him :lol:
Just talk about her Big Boss and you'll get a happy Dinara :p

Anyway Thanks a LOT for the show Dina and Zac :kiss::hearts::kiss:

Also Sveta :worship:

makini
Aug 18th, 2009, 02:50 PM
All of the people who hate on court coaching sit around laughing their asses off when Dina and Z are together on court. It's just the most ridiculous thing ever. She never seems to not be paying attention and he is usually ranting and raving about something.

~Kiera~
Aug 18th, 2009, 03:42 PM
Just talk about her Big Boss and you'll get a happy Dinara :p

He's like chocolate cake, but without the calories :p

vanúss
Aug 18th, 2009, 03:54 PM
He's like chocolate cake, but without the calories :p

Zeljko in any kind of mood it doesn't matter , frowning , smiling , happy , yelling , screaming it just has to be Zeljko :)

He's perfect for her diet :lol:

ad-out
Aug 18th, 2009, 06:49 PM
So hilarious! "She sits sullenly listening while he harangues her to play more aggressively" :lol:

I noticed during the final that the ESPN commentators were talking about wanting to see Z come on court. Pam Schriver even went to talk to him and ask why he did't just take the initiative and go!
:haha:

vanúss
Aug 18th, 2009, 07:07 PM
So hilarious! "She sits sullenly listening while he harangues her to play more aggressively" :lol:

I noticed during the final that the ESPN commentators were talking about wanting to see Z come on court. Pam Schriver even went to talk to him and ask why he did't just take the initiative and go!
:haha:

:haha: but are they allowed to come on court just like that without the player asking for them ? :confused: Because if it was possible i'm sure he would have gone by himself :shrug:
Oh and just like that i want to say that i adore Pam :lol:

ad-out
Aug 18th, 2009, 07:17 PM
:haha: but are they allowed to come on court just like that without the player asking for them ? :confused: Because if it was possible i'm sure he would have gone by himself :shrug:
Oh and just like that i want to say that i adore Pam :lol:


I got the impression from the commentators who were explaining the rules that the coach OR the player could initiate the on court session.. Pam said that when she asked him why he didn't go on his own he just shrugged his sholders! Did you see how she just angrily waved the racquet toward him when she wanted him to come down? :lol:

vanúss
Aug 18th, 2009, 08:12 PM
I got the impression from the commentators who were explaining the rules that the coach OR the player could initiate the on court session.. Pam said that when she asked him why he didn't go on his own he just shrugged his sholders! Did you see how she just angrily waved the racquet toward him when she wanted him to come down? :lol:

Then they are both stupid :p
Yeah i saw that :lol: She could have said along the gesture 'Get your fucking ass down here :fiery: ':haha:

camilia
Aug 18th, 2009, 08:33 PM
I'm gonna miss those coaching timeouts during the US open :sobbing:

vanúss
Aug 18th, 2009, 08:41 PM
I'm gonna miss those coaching timeouts during the US open :sobbing:

We still have Toronto this week ;)
I just CAN'T wait to "stalk" them next year ! They are going to be sick of me smiling while watching them at every practice :lol:

camilia
Aug 18th, 2009, 09:11 PM
We still have Toronto this week ;)
I just CAN'T wait to "stalk" them next year ! They are going to be sick of me smiling while watching them at every practice :lol:

:haha: just keep your distance you don't want her to think you have a crush on Z :p

vanúss
Aug 18th, 2009, 09:34 PM
:haha: just keep your distance you don't want her to think you have a crush on Z :p

:rolls: Oh dear , Dina would destroy me :lol:

10am near a practice court . Dinara Safina and Zeljko Krajan along with the third wheel Marko just got there to start their first Practice of the day . Vanessa Cotineau is as always not far away from them sitting in the stands watching them all closely with a grin on her face . Dinara keep looking at her wondering what the hell she wants again . Three minutes later , big surprise the Russian is not patiente , is going over to Vanessa .
Dinara : Hey you what's your problem ?!
Vanessa : Excuse me ? ( smiling happy that Dinara finally talk to her :lol: )
Dinara : Don't mock me , i see your game you keep following us around !
Vanessa : what's wrong with that ? Am i not allowed to watch you practice ?
Dinara : You are but i forbid you to ever watch Zeljko again get it ? He's married !!! :fiery:
Vanessa is laughing out loud : i know that but do you ? :p
Dinara has enough and start hitting Vanessa , the cat fight is ON !!!

DiscoStick
Aug 18th, 2009, 09:37 PM
:rolls: Oh dear , Dina would destroy me :lol:

10am near a practice court . Dinara Safina and Zeljko Krajan along with the third wheel Marko just got there to start their first Practice of the day . Vanessa Cotineau is as always not far away from them sitting in the stands watching them all closely with a grin on her face . Dinara keep looking at her wondering what the hell she wants again . Three minutes later , big surprise the Russian is not patiente , is going over to Vanessa .
Dinara : Hey you what's your problem ?!
Vanessa : Excuse me ? ( smiling happy that Dinara finally talk to her :lol: )
Dinara : Don't mock me , i see your game you keep following us around !
Vanessa : what's wrong with that ? Am i not allowed to watch you practice ?
Dinara : You are but i forbid you to ever watch Zeljko again get it ? He's married !!! :fiery:
Vanessa is laughing out loud : i know that but do you ? :p
Dinara has enough and start hitting Vanessa , the cat fight is ON !!!

:rolls:

camilia
Aug 18th, 2009, 09:42 PM
:rolls: Oh dear , Dina would destroy me :lol:

10am near a practice court . Dinara Safina and Zeljko Krajan along with the third wheel Marko just got there to start their first Practice of the day . Vanessa Cotineau is as always not far away from them sitting in the stands watching them all closely with a grin on her face . Dinara keep looking at her wondering what the hell she wants again . Three minutes later , big surprise the Russian is not patiente , is going over to Vanessa .
Dinara : Hey you what's your problem ?!
Vanessa : Excuse me ? ( smiling happy that Dinara finally talk to her :lol: )
Dinara : Don't mock me , i see your game you keep following us around !
Vanessa : what's wrong with that ? Am i not allowed to watch you practice ?
Dinara : You are but i forbid you to ever watch Zeljko again get it ? He's married !!! :fiery:
Vanessa is laughing out loud : i know that but do you ? :p
Dinara has enough and start hitting Vanessa , the cat fight is ON !!!

:lol: but there would be no cat fight, you'd be like "Yay Dina is hitting me :bounce:" :haha:

makini
Aug 18th, 2009, 09:45 PM
:rolls: Oh dear , Dina would destroy me :lol:

10am near a practice court . Dinara Safina and Zeljko Krajan along with the third wheel Marko just got there to start their first Practice of the day . Vanessa Cotineau is as always not far away from them sitting in the stands watching them all closely with a grin on her face . Dinara keep looking at her wondering what the hell she wants again . Three minutes later , big surprise the Russian is not patiente , is going over to Vanessa .
Dinara : Hey you what's your problem ?!
Vanessa : Excuse me ? ( smiling happy that Dinara finally talk to her :lol: )
Dinara : Don't mock me , i see your game you keep following us around !
Vanessa : what's wrong with that ? Am i not allowed to watch you practice ?
Dinara : You are but i forbid you to ever watch Zeljko again get it ? He's married !!! :fiery:
Vanessa is laughing out loud : i know that but do you ? :p
Dinara has enough and start hitting Vanessa , the cat fight is ON !!!

:lol: If Dina came over and started talking to me I think that i would go temporarily mute but if she is accusing me of trying to steal Z I would just :haha:

vanúss
Aug 18th, 2009, 10:03 PM
:lol: If Dina came over and started talking to me I think that i would go temporarily mute but if she is accusing me of trying to steal Z I would just :haha:

:lol: i would be on a mute mode for a few seconds too :p

Ashi
Aug 19th, 2009, 07:13 AM
:haha::yeah:

:rolls: Oh dear , Dina would destroy me :lol:

10am near a practice court . Dinara Safina and Zeljko Krajan along with the third wheel Marko just got there to start their first Practice of the day . Vanessa Cotineau is as always not far away from them sitting in the stands watching them all closely with a grin on her face . Dinara keep looking at her wondering what the hell she wants again . Three minutes later , big surprise the Russian is not patiente , is going over to Vanessa .
Dinara : Hey you what's your problem ?!

Vanessa : Excuse me ? ( smiling happy that Dinara finally talk to her :lol: )
Dinara : Don't mock me , i see your game you keep following us around !
Vanessa : what's wrong with that ? Am i not allowed to watch you practice ?
Dinara : You are but i forbid you to ever watch Zeljko again get it ? He's married !!! :fiery:
Vanessa is laughing out loud : i know that but do you ? :p
Dinara has enough and start hitting Vanessa , the cat fight is ON !!!

~Kiera~
Aug 19th, 2009, 07:30 PM
Dinara self-destructed.

Her coach left her after she lost the 2nd set she was pleading with him not to leave

Sad, if true.

makini
Aug 19th, 2009, 08:06 PM
Of course she self-destructed she depends on Z too much. She needs to realize that he cannot help her when she is out there. It's all up to her and she really needs to start believing that she can do it on her own. I just want to give her a :hug:

vanúss
Aug 19th, 2009, 08:11 PM
If it's true then i'm glad that i haven't seen the whole match to witness that because it sounds heartbreaking :sad:
If i could give her 700.000 hugs i would even if i hate those :lol:

Nina.
Aug 19th, 2009, 09:15 PM
Of course she self-destructed she depends on Z too much. She needs to realize that he cannot help her when she is out there. It's all up to her and she really needs to start believing that she can do it on her own.

Agree 100%. And we keep saying this in here over and over again. So how come that basically every fan of hers (or even everyone who follows tennis) has figured that out by now but Dinara and Z can't? Or when they have why don't they work on that problem?

ad-out
Aug 19th, 2009, 09:36 PM
Sad, if true.

Very sad if he left her when she was pleading with him to stay.. Did anyone see this?

Also, I read on GM that he only gets paid if she wins.. Surely this is not true!

vanúss
Aug 19th, 2009, 09:39 PM
Very sad if he left her when she was pleading with him to stay.. Did anyone see this?

Also, I read on GM that he only gets paid if she wins.. Surely this is not true!

WTF ?! they need to STFU right now !!!

Nina.
Aug 19th, 2009, 09:39 PM
Also, I read on GM that he only gets paid if she wins.. Surely this is not true!

:help: Of course...:rolleyes:
If that was true he would have made a very stupid contract :lol:

makini
Aug 19th, 2009, 09:39 PM
Very sad if he left her when she was pleading with him to stay.. Did anyone see this?

Also, I read on GM that he only gets paid if she wins.. Surely this is not true!

I would think that he would get paid win or lose since he basically leaves his family for 10 months out of the year to travel with her. Only paying him if she wins is a ridiculous notion.

nikeshirtoffug
Aug 19th, 2009, 10:18 PM
Dinara self-destructed.

Her coach left her after she lost the 2nd set she was pleading with him not to leave

Sad, if true.

Very sad if he left her when she was pleading with him to stay.. Did anyone see this?


I was there and while I can't confirm if she pleaded with him to stay since we were nowhere near close enough to hear them, I can definitely confirm he left. Although, it wasn't after the 2nd set. He came down after the 2nd set and then he came down again when Rezai broke her in the 3rd but he went back to his seat then. So he was definitely there for part of the third set. I would guess he left somewhere around the 6th or 7th game of the set.

The CRAZIEST thing is how Dinara got a coaching violation when he wasn't even there. She yelled to the umpire "my coach isn't here!" and pointed to where Marko (aw, Marko) was sitting alone. And thank God for Marko. Guy is possibly a saint. He sat there the whole time cheering his ass off. Of course the one time Dinara has someone encouraging her in her box she gets a coaching violation for it.

redsonja
Aug 19th, 2009, 10:19 PM
Agree 100%. And we keep saying this in here over and over again. So how come that basically every fan of hers (or even everyone who follows tennis) has figured that out by now but Dinara and Z can't? Or when they have why don't they work on that problem?
I don't think they don't know; if he's willing to leave her on court (which he did during that match-- was there with nikeshirtoffug), he knows she has to do it without him. I think it's a personal/business relationship problem-- as a coach, you might know the best thing is to leave your student to fend for themselves, win or lose, but it's personally very very hard to actually do that. Hopefully after USO they'll work on that a little bit more, because she's got to quit relying on him.

I would think that he would get paid win or lose since he basically leaves his family for 10 months out of the year to travel with her. Only paying him if she wins is a ridiculous notion.
Yeah, that's the craziest thing I ever heard. :rolleyes: I'd bet cash money he gets a percentage of her winnings by contract, or they settled on a flat salary. Nothing else would make any sense.

vanúss
Aug 19th, 2009, 10:25 PM
The CRAZIEST thing is how Dinara got a coaching violation when he wasn't even there. She yelled to the umpire "my coach isn't here!" and pointed to where Marko (aw, Marko) was sitting alone. And thank God for Marko. Guy is possibly a saint. He sat there the whole time cheering his ass off. Of course the one time Dinara has someone encouraging her in her box she gets a coaching violation for it.

That's the most ridiculous thing ever ! It's like a new rule in the WTA " Do not cheer for Dinara Safina " :rolleyes:
Who was the chair empire ?

Oh and also Marko :worship: That guy has to stay around , he's like a 9 years old ( 1yr older than Dina :p ) at his first Football match ! :kiss:

But thank guys for you reviews and tweets :p

~Kiera~
Aug 19th, 2009, 10:35 PM
I was there and while I can't confirm if she pleaded with him to stay since we were nowhere near close enough to hear them, I can definitely confirm he left. Although, it wasn't after the 2nd set. He came down after the 2nd set and then he came down again when Rezai broke her in the 3rd but he went back to his seat then. So he was definitely there for part of the third set. I would guess he left somewhere around the 6th or 7th game of the set.

The CRAZIEST thing is how Dinara got a coaching violation when he wasn't even there. She yelled to the umpire "my coach isn't here!" and pointed to where Marko (aw, Marko) was sitting alone. And thank God for Marko. Guy is possibly a saint. He sat there the whole time cheering his ass off. Of course the one time Dinara has someone encouraging her in her box she gets a coaching violation for it.

Thanks, Lexi :yeah:

camilia
Aug 19th, 2009, 10:39 PM
Very sad if he left her when she was pleading with him to stay.. Did anyone see this?

Also, I read on GM that he only gets paid if she wins.. Surely this is not true!

WTF ?! they need to STFU right now !!!

:help: Of course...:rolleyes:
If that was true he would have made a very stupid contract :lol:

I would think that he would get paid win or lose since he basically leaves his family for 10 months out of the year to travel with her. Only paying him if she wins is a ridiculous notion.

:haha: People in GM are really smart, yah I don't think Z is that stupid :p

nikeshirtoffug
Aug 19th, 2009, 10:45 PM
A couple of pics from Toronto that I took during practice yesterday. If anyone wants larger versions, just let me know.

The blonde is Dinara's hitting partner for the session, who was Russian and seemed super nervous. Zeljko gave him directions at the start (she was only practicing returns) and then at each break he would ask if he was doing okay. He also got the assignment of picking up all the balls with Marko (Zeljko helped for like a second) while Dinara relaxed. At the end of the session he thanked Dinara and then took off on his own. It was super cute.

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4310/rogerscup09024tf.jpg

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3089/rogerscup09025tf.jpg

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7106/rogerscup09027tf.jpg

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/218/rogerscup09028tf.jpg

camilia
Aug 19th, 2009, 10:45 PM
I was there .

I don't think they don't know; if he's willing to leave her on court (which he did during that match-- was there with nikeshirtoffug

I hope you had fun despite the loss

nikeshirtoffug
Aug 19th, 2009, 10:47 PM
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1655/rogerscup09029tf.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8439/rogerscup09032tf.jpg

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3435/rogerscup09033tf.jpg

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7167/rogerscup09036tf.jpg

camilia
Aug 19th, 2009, 10:49 PM
Thanks Lexi :)

redsonja
Aug 19th, 2009, 10:51 PM
I hope you had fun despite the loss

Well, they had pretty decent wine and wifi in the arena, so it's not like the worst day I ever had or anything. :p

camilia
Aug 19th, 2009, 11:03 PM
Well, they had pretty decent wine and wifi in the arena, so it's not like the worst day I ever had or anything. :p

glad to hear that :p

makini
Aug 19th, 2009, 11:43 PM
Thanks for the pics Lexi :)

nikeshirtoffug
Aug 19th, 2009, 11:52 PM
From today:

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/593/001mto.jpg

DiscoStick
Aug 20th, 2009, 12:11 AM
Thanks for the pics! :D

Caralenko
Aug 20th, 2009, 07:22 AM
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8439/rogerscup09032tf.jpg


TENNIS COURT! Not TOILET, ZELJKO!!! :help: :eek::eek::eek:

~Kiera~
Aug 20th, 2009, 11:25 AM
http://cowbell.typepad.com/forty_deuce/2009/08/what-do-you-want-to-do-today-brain-same-thing-we-do-every-day-pinky-try-and-take-over-the-world.html#comments

He is an ass. He left her early in the 3rd set. Is this normal? Do coaches usually storm out of a match, while a player begs "Don't go, stay, stay, stay, stay!" It was the saddest thing. I hope she shows up to the USO minus this idiot. I was sitting really close to him, and I can't tell you how many times during the match she would stare at him, looking for encouragement, or just a smile, whatever, and he would be looking at the ground, totally on purpose. I just don't get it.

vanúss
Aug 20th, 2009, 12:39 PM
:lol: last year it was Zeljko who was winning the matches and not Dinara for some people and now it's Z's fault if she's losing :rolleyes:
Nothing new in the way he acted :shrug: Especially since he came down on court two times and still she was playing like shit , so yeah Z go ahead and smile at her :o
Now for the pleading part , i hope it's not true but a part of me think that she could totally do that while the other part wants to think the contrary :shrug: But if that match didn't taught her anything i don't know what will , but by seeing her reaction afterwards it maybe finally made it to her brain and the timing would be perfect ! *fingers crossed*

redsonja
Aug 20th, 2009, 01:22 PM
I wouldn't be that surprised if she was begging him to stay, especially hearing it now from two different people. But, truth to tell, she was playing fine after he left-- she had game point to get back on serve in the 3rd-- until she got that bizarre coaching violation. That must just have been the last straw for her somehow. :shrug:

vanúss
Aug 20th, 2009, 01:32 PM
until she got that bizarre coaching violation. That must just have been the last straw for her somehow. :shrug:

Oh well even better now :rolleyes:

vanúss
Aug 20th, 2009, 01:35 PM
http://cowbell.typepad.com/forty_deu....html#comments

she really did beg. She was getting her ball for her serve, so she was facing an entrance/exit in the corner. so she saw when he got out of the players box to leave through that entrance and all of a sudden you hear her plead "stay stay stay stay" helplessly. He didn't even look back. I think the tough love works up to a point, but this has crossed the line. btw, when she gets inside her head... and when she looks up at him for support, and he's always looking away from her... i honestly think that just makes it worse. Then she just looks at him even more. But I agree, she looks at her box far more than other players. Or maybe it's just that when she looks, it's a lot more obvious, because it's like laser beams.

Yeah, I totally wanted to hug her. She is lovely. this is the first time I saw her live, and she is just so fit, and she has the most beautiful arms and shoulders!

makini
Aug 20th, 2009, 04:21 PM
Oh Dear :hug: Dina just :hug:. She needs a Moscow Timeout but will not get it. Hopefully she gets a time out from Z because they seem to need some time apart from each other.

vanúss
Aug 20th, 2009, 04:25 PM
She can't have a Monaco timeout either damn it i have a friend who live there :p
She sounds in her Press Conference that she's gonna stay in Toronto for a few days until she has to fly to NY :shrug:

Ashi
Aug 20th, 2009, 04:31 PM
The last few posts are making me sad...:awww::crying2:

ad-out
Aug 20th, 2009, 04:34 PM
I feel sad for her too.

makini
Aug 20th, 2009, 04:37 PM
I feel sad for her too.

I love you avatar Dina and Marat :awww:

Nina.
Aug 20th, 2009, 04:39 PM
I don't know what to think about that :shrug:
I don't really understand what Z wanted to show her with him leaving, what he was intending to do.
On the other hand, Dinara begging him not to go is pathetic, sorry to say this, but that's my opionion. When he feels he has to go because she's playing so bad or whatever, she should say: "Fuck you, I'm the one playing anyway. What do I need you for?"
Wait...maybe I just figured out Z's intention...

ad-out
Aug 20th, 2009, 04:41 PM
I love you avatar Dina and Marat :awww:

Thanks! Someone made it on Marat's forums (TGFR).

~Kiera~
Aug 20th, 2009, 04:55 PM
I don't know what to think about that :shrug:
I don't really understand what Z wanted to show her with him leaving, what he was intending to do.
On the other hand, Dinara begging him not to go is pathetic, sorry to say this, but that's my opionion. When he feels he has to go because she's playing so bad or whatever, she should say: "Fuck you, I'm the one playing anyway. What do I need you for?"
Wait...maybe I just figured out Z's intention...

This is what she said about it in her post match interview

Q. You called your coach down before the third set and then halfway through the third set. What were you asking him to help you with?

DINARA SAFINA: How he can help me if I'm not doing anything. I have a game plan, I step on the court, and I do completely the opposite thing.

Just for strategy even he left the court, because he says, It makes no sense that I'm sitting there, because you don't do the things. So better lose and do your things. At least you are moving forward. But when I'm telling you one thing and you do completely the opposite thing and you're losing, you're just moving backwards.

ad-out
Aug 20th, 2009, 04:57 PM
They really do have a love/hate relationship.. I just wish we could hear what he says after the matches! Can you imagine what he would say to her off court given how he acts during their on court sessions?? :scared:

Nina.
Aug 20th, 2009, 04:58 PM
This is what she said about it in her post match interview

Ah thanks, I didn't have the time to read all the new stuff yet.
Well...that tactic worked well :o

PersephoneDisco
Aug 22nd, 2009, 08:43 PM
Poor Marko. He's gonna be a broken man if this ker-azy business goes on. Thanks for the photos and goss Lexi and Carrie :hug:

Marko in white and Z in red, explains so much :p Oh and he's allowed to make her shakes? She trusts him enough not to poison her :yeah: :p

I really hope she wasn't pleading for him to stay :rolleyes:

nikeshirtoffug
Aug 22nd, 2009, 10:09 PM
Poor Marko. He's gonna be a broken man if this ker-azy business goes on.



Marko seems far too sweet and normal for Team Crazy. I felt horrible for him when Zeljko left during the match. Awwwwwkward.

vanúss
Aug 22nd, 2009, 10:20 PM
Marko seems far too sweet and normal for Team Crazy. I felt horrible for him when Zeljko left during the match. Awwwwwkward.

Should i follow :shrug: or should i cheer my ass off for Dinara ? :confused:

:lol: he's like the link between Z and D , they probably both complain about each other to Marko :p

PersephoneDisco
Aug 22nd, 2009, 10:21 PM
Marko seems far too sweet and normal for Team Crazy. I felt horrible for him when Zeljko left during the match. Awwwwwkward.

Did you by any chance see his reaction to Z's departure? I can just imagine him looking to Dina and then to Z and then back to Dina. Poor guy must have been very :confused:. Hope he got a cookie for his cheering :awww:

nikeshirtoffug
Aug 22nd, 2009, 10:39 PM
Did you by any chance see his reaction to Z's departure? I can just imagine him looking to Dina and then to Z and then back to Dina. Poor guy must have been very :confused:. Hope he got a cookie for his cheering :awww:

No, because I didn't notice for a few minutes that Zeljko was gone. I was probably trying to hide under my seat at that point. Christina and I were joking how guilty he must have felt when he somehow caused a coaching violation. For almost two years Zeljko's been coaching Dinara from his seat and she hardly ever gets a violation. He leaves a match and about 5 minutes later Dinara and Marko manage to get one. :lol:

PersephoneDisco
Aug 22nd, 2009, 10:48 PM
No, because I didn't notice for a few minutes that Zeljko was gone. I was probably trying to hide under my seat at that point. Christina and I were joking how guilty he must have felt when he somehow caused a coaching violation. For almost two years Zeljko's been coaching Dinara from his seat and she hardly ever gets a violation. He leaves a match and about 5 minutes later Dinara and Marko manage to get one. :lol:

The coaching violation was certainly :unsure: and :cuckoo: provoking. Poor guy was doing a nice, positive thing and most likely got really told off by Dina after the match :o

Ahh Marko, don't worry you're already a martyr in our eyes :lol:

~Kiera~
Aug 22nd, 2009, 11:51 PM
From last year

http://www.tennis-plus.ru/archive/2008/09/90

We have offered several players to ATP and WTA Tour, in different stages of their careers, reflect on the theme of źMe and my coach╗. Some of them have already found the źprofessional half╗, someone else to find.

Elena Vesnina, 22 years, #46 in the world, sportswoman, who searches for the possibility to improve your results:

- The last few years I have trampled on the ground, while others are in the best źforty╗, not bad like. But after three years, wants to take a step up in źtwenty╗. Therefore from last year we search for a coach. They found it, but another girl intercepted it, federation helps to pay to her trainer. Now I and my agent is again searching for, conduct negotiationsů I want to pull tactics, psychology. If you start winning matches, it adds confidence to the eyes. Very obvious case - Dinara Safina, after which Berlin did not know it was a totally different person, confident, fearless. In the past year, she had two coaches for the Chief - Hans Gyunhard, which seems to have only two tournaments with it and went, and Zeljko Krajan which performed the role of sparring assistant. Dinara stopped Zeljko - was seen that guy's head works, and she believed him. It is calm, always said to her that she is a very good player, that it is necessary only to believe, to work and on no account to depart to itself, to the depression. It morally healthily supported it, but this exactly Dinara and it was not sufficient. He was under 30, he played in the Tour and for the Croatian national team, knows what her work. There are two basic criteria - that the trainer would approach to you according to the character and understood your game. Spaniards, for example, can teach the cheat for the back line and run for three hours. This is not my game, I need people who will build on the strengths and weaknesses. I do not need someone special, like Brad Gilbert. The coach of that name immediately and the price sky-high room. It remains to go through trial, error and bruises - to watch different coaches. The same business.

redsonja
Aug 23rd, 2009, 02:06 AM
No, because I didn't notice for a few minutes that Zeljko was gone. I was probably trying to hide under my seat at that point.
Also we were sitting kind of back and to the side from where they were, so we couldn't really see much in the way of facial expressions or anything.

Christina and I were joking how guilty he must have felt when he somehow caused a coaching violation. For almost two years Zeljko's been coaching Dinara from his seat and she hardly ever gets a violation. He leaves a match and about 5 minutes later Dinara and Marko manage to get one. :lol:
Seriously, poor Marko. :lol: He's only been involved in tennis for like a month and a half, and somehow, the first time he's left alone with his charge, he gets her a coaching violation. I would just love to know what he said. :lol:

PersephoneDisco
Aug 24th, 2009, 02:07 PM
thanks for the article sarah :)

vanúss
Aug 30th, 2009, 06:55 PM
Hey guys GREAT news !

nikeshirtoffug and redsonja are in NY and guess who's back in the A-Team ?
Dejan :bounce::bounce::bounce:

camilia
Aug 30th, 2009, 07:08 PM
That's good news, I wonder is he back for good or only for the US open :P

makini
Aug 30th, 2009, 07:32 PM
Hey guys GREAT news !

nikeshirtoffug and redsonja are in NY and guess who's back in the A-Team ?
Dejan :bounce::bounce::bounce:

That is amazing. We didn't even have to do the petition to get him back. :bounce::bounce: Most amazing player's box ever.

vanúss
Aug 30th, 2009, 07:44 PM
That is amazing. We didn't even have to do the petition to get him back. :bounce::bounce: Most amazing player's box ever.

INDEED !!!
Come on , imagine the box : Z frowning , Dejan all calm clapping when he needs to and Marko excited and cheering all the time !
There you got the hottest player box ever ! Marat and all his useless bimbos deserve a big :spit: while Dinara's box deserve a huge :worship:

makini
Aug 30th, 2009, 07:59 PM
INDEED !!!
Come on , imagine the box : Z frowning , Dejan all calm clapping when he needs to and Marko excited and cheering all the time !
There you got the hottest player box ever ! Marat and all his useless bimbos deserve a big :spit: while Dinara's box deserve a huge :worship:

:eek: Dina will have two people cheering for her now. Hopefully Dejan teaches Marko how cheer so that he does not get another coaching violation. :p I'm so excited for the hotness that will be that player's box.

~Kiera~
Aug 30th, 2009, 08:10 PM
He's back? :hearts:

Please stay, Dejan. Dina needs even more men around her :p

vanúss
Aug 30th, 2009, 09:02 PM
Ohhh LOVE the new name of the thread :bounce:

The crazy Coco Team , so appropriate :hearts:

makini
Aug 30th, 2009, 09:14 PM
:lol: amazing new thread title.

PersephoneDisco
Aug 31st, 2009, 12:02 AM
I cannot believe that Dejan is back :speakles: Like, if I was Lexi and Carrie [especially Lexi :p] I would go absolutely MENTAL.

Her men harem just got so much hotter :lick: :hearts:


BTW did Lyra change the thread title or something else? Whoever did it well done! :p :worship:

redsonja
Aug 31st, 2009, 02:32 AM
As she said on her Twitter, "shitting the pants" is a pretty apt description of what Lexi did when we saw Dejan. We walked by a group of three guys, and I recognized one of them as Marko. We got a little bit past them and Lexi stopped walking and looked a little dazed.
Me: "Eeee! Marko!"
Lexi: "But look who he's with! Look who he's with! LOOK WHO HE'S WITH!!!!"

Well. It was a moment. She has pictures. I'm sure she will share. :lol:

nikeshirtoffug
Aug 31st, 2009, 03:14 AM
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6306/052tf.jpg

PersephoneDisco
Aug 31st, 2009, 03:19 AM
Sweet Jebus, there's just waaaaaaay too much hotness going on in the pic. :worship:
Oh Dejan,we missed your badass self :sobbing:
[and lolz at Marko's innocent bemusement at whatever Dina's getting up to, off camera :p]

Thanks Lexi, the glaring red arrows just topped the whole thing off ;)

enchantrezz
Aug 31st, 2009, 03:37 AM
yup! Hotness overload for the team coco! Im glad you guys like the new thread title.

redsonja
Aug 31st, 2009, 03:41 AM
[and lolz at Marko's innocent bemusement at whatever Dina's getting up to, off camera :p]

I can't remember exactly when that picture is from, but Marko was way, way into her practice set with CSN. Way into it. :lol:

nikeshirtoffug
Aug 31st, 2009, 03:52 AM
More pics. I didn't feel the need to draw all over these. :)

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6537/042tf.jpg

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/6677/043tf.jpg

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1687/044tf.jpg

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/6388/051tf.jpg

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/6306/052tf.jpg

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/9734/053tf.jpg

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2756/057tf.jpg

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3665/060tf.jpg

PersephoneDisco
Aug 31st, 2009, 04:03 AM
yup! Hotness overload for the team coco! Im glad you guys like the new thread title.

Lyra! :hug: You're gonna be here for the US Open right? :p

I can't remember exactly when that picture is from, but Marko was way, way into her practice set with CSN. Way into it. :lol:

He's so sweet, he really does think Dina is no.1 and the best player in the world :lol:

Marko- OMG, Carla, the Venus Slayer is gonna practise with Dinara?? Backhand against Forehand? :drool: x 100

PersephoneDisco
Aug 31st, 2009, 04:05 AM
Thanks Lexi :) Hilarious first pic :lol: 'M-Oh I'm new, I better give you my number!"
Dejan with hair is something! :p
See, he's already got back to the groove with matchy clothes. Poor Marko is the odd one out but that's to be expected, Z and Dejan were Croatian bros in arms :lol:

redsonja
Aug 31st, 2009, 04:08 AM
Poor Marko is the odd one out but that's to be expected, Z and Dejan were Croatian bros in arms :lol:

Poor Marko. :sad: I'll give him a hug. :p

PersephoneDisco
Aug 31st, 2009, 04:10 AM
Poor Marko. :sad: I'll give him a hug. :p

Dude is so unappreciated. He wouldn't be wasted on us :angel:
You should totally ask him for his autograph and make his day :lol: Oh and tell him he's the pin up boy of Dina's thread :rolls:

redsonja
Aug 31st, 2009, 04:17 AM
You should totally ask him for his autograph and make his day :lol: Oh and tell him he's the pin up boy of Dina's thread :rolls:

I was, at one point, next to Marko at the condiment stand. He was getting ketchup, I was getting napkins. I should have offered him one. :p It's the little things in life. Simple kindnesses make a difference. :p

PersephoneDisco
Aug 31st, 2009, 04:21 AM
I was, at one point, next to Marko at the condiment stand. He was getting ketchup, I was getting napkins. I should have offered him one. :p It's the little things in life. Simple kindnesses make a difference. :p

He's a ketchup man? Dude is perrrfect :p
Oh he's totally the kind of man that remembers the little things ;) So tell us, how short was he? :lol:

redsonja
Aug 31st, 2009, 04:29 AM
Oh he's totally the kind of man that remembers the little things ;) So tell us, how short was he? :lol:

Hard to tell. He was leaning over to pump the ketchup. :p I'm pretty sure he's at least 3-4 inches taller than I am (5'7"). :shrug:

PersephoneDisco
Aug 31st, 2009, 04:37 AM
Hard to tell. He was bending over to pump the ketchup. :p I'm pretty sure he's at least 3-4 inches taller than I am (5'7"). :shrug:

Is he approx 5'7 or you? :angel:
Guess the important question is... how tall is Z? [yeah, yeah he's 6'4 in Dina's mind but that doesn't count :p]

redsonja
Aug 31st, 2009, 04:45 AM
Is he approx 5'7 or you? :angel:
Hee. Me. :)

Guess the important question is... how tall is Z? [yeah, yeah he's 6'4 in Dina's mind but that doesn't count :p]
I don't know. I was thinking today that in person he doesn't look nearly as much shorter than her as he does in pictures. 5'10", 5'11" maybe?

DS.Fan.
Aug 31st, 2009, 08:20 AM
Welcome back Dejan!:woohoo:

Caralenko
Aug 31st, 2009, 09:26 AM
Dejan!!! :woohoo: How we've missed you!

Good omen :hehehe:

Aleksandrina
Aug 31st, 2009, 10:48 AM
http://i29.tinypic.com/fx5jso.jpg

nikeshirtoffug
Aug 31st, 2009, 11:11 AM
That last pic looks like it was after practice. Poor Dejan. It's been a while. He put on his back pack and was all ready to go. Except he forgot a very important part of any Dinara practice seesion: Zeljko giving Dinara a 5 minute lecture. So Dejan and Marko just stood there and looked kinda pained and bored until Zeljko was done.

~Kiera~
Aug 31st, 2009, 12:07 PM
Thanks, Lexi :)

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2756/057tf.jpg

Three? Now that's just being greedy, Dina :p

vanúss
Aug 31st, 2009, 12:27 PM
Thanks for the pictures ! It's so good to see Dejan again in THE Team :)
The guy with Marko and Dejan looks like Dinara's hitting partner in Portoroz :shrug:

Now i hope that Dejan is back to stay , how awful would it be to have him in back in our lives and then gone again within two weeks :sad:

By the way while watching those pictures i had " Let's hear it for the boy(s) " by Denise Williams :spit:

PersephoneDisco
Aug 31st, 2009, 03:47 PM
Hee. Me. :)


I don't know. I was thinking today that in person he doesn't look nearly as much shorter than her as he does in pictures. 5'10", 5'11" maybe?

Ah ;)

M&Z both look much shorter in pictures or maybe Dina is just that freakishly tall :shrug:

That last pic looks like it was after practice. Poor Dejan. It's been a while. He put on his back pack and was all ready to go. Except he forgot a very important part of any Dinara practice seesion: Zeljko giving Dinara a 5 minute lecture. So Dejan and Marko just stood there and looked kinda pained and bored until Zeljko was done.

:lol: No, Dejan things haven't changed! I'm guessing no small talk between Marko and Dejan, more like grit your teeth and it'll be over in 5 hou- minutes :p

Thanks for the pictures ! It's so good to see Dejan again in THE Team :)
The guy with Marko and Dejan looks like Dinara's hitting partner in Portoroz :shrug:

Now i hope that Dejan is back to stay , how awful would it be to have him in back in our lives and then gone again within two weeks :sad:

By the way while watching those pictures i had " Let's hear it for the boy(s) " by Denise Williams :spit:

I was wondering who the dude was! He is insanely cute too, must be Russian cos of what he's wearing. He and Marko are the sole survivors of Portoroz, Ronen didn't make it...

bijoux
Aug 31st, 2009, 03:56 PM
Ah ;)

M&Z both look much shorter in pictures or maybe Dina is just that freakishly tall :shrug:

Zeljko is stocky. Christina and I have discussed this before but I think he tends to look larger in person because while Dinara is taller than him, heĺs kinda wide. He has huge shoulders for his height. The thing that makes Dinara look so much taller than him (well, besides the fact that she is :lol: ) is that sheĺs super long limbed and heĺs bulkier.

Wow, I cannot believe I put so much thought into that just now. :)

I was wondering who the dude was! He is insanely cute too, must be Russian cos of what he's wearing. He and Marko are the sole survivors of Portoroz, Ronen didn't make it...

Definitely Serbian. You can see SERBIA on the back of his jacket in one of the pics. I donĺt know who he was and honestly I didnĺt put 10 seconds of thought into it. I was much more excited about what was going down on the left side of the picture. :lol:

He seemed to know Marko more than Dejan, which I guess makes sense since Marko is Serbian.

PersephoneDisco
Aug 31st, 2009, 04:01 PM
Zeljko is stocky. Christina and I have discussed this before but I think he tends to look larger in person because while Dinara is taller than him, he’s kinda wide. He has huge shoulders for his height. The thing that makes Dinara look so much taller than him (well, besides the fact that she is :lol: ) is that she’s super long limbed and he’s bulkier.

Wow, I cannot believe I put so much thought into that just now. :)

Yeah def stocky. They come tend to come in that size or insanely gangly and tall in Croatia.
:lol: Inexplicable train of thoughts are a common thing for Dina fans.

Definitely Serbian. You can see SERBIA on the back of his jacket in one of the pics. I don’t know who he was and honestly I didn’t put 10 seconds of thought into it. I was much more excited about what was going down on the left side of the picture. :lol:

He seemed to know Marko more than Dejan, which I guess makes sense since Marko is Serbian.

I seriously need to start wearing my glasses again, I see red blue and white and I think Russia! :lol:
Ahh well Marko needs a serbian friend to keep him company :p Is he not the hitting partner from Portoroz? It would kinda make sense to have him over [but we haven't seen Dina hit with him yet] cos the courts are similar to USO and Marko is getting lonely :p

nikeshirtoffug
Aug 31st, 2009, 04:08 PM
Whoops, sorry, I was using an old computer at work on that last post.

I realized the other guy is wearing an Osaka 07 backpack. That was athletics. I'm super confusd by all these boys who get involved in tennis from other sports.

redsonja
Aug 31st, 2009, 04:14 PM
Zeljko is stocky. Christina and I have discussed this before but I think he tends to look larger in person because while Dinara is taller than him, heĺs kinda wide. He has huge shoulders for his height. The thing that makes Dinara look so much taller than him (well, besides the fact that she is :lol: ) is that sheĺs super long limbed and heĺs bulkier.

Wow, I cannot believe I put so much thought into that just now. :)
The saddest thing is to think of how much time we've spent actually discussing that. :lol: But yeah, everyone always says Dinara has these super huge shoulders, but next to Zeljko she looks downright narrow. I still never think the height difference looks that big in person, but who knows, maybe that's all about his hair construction. :p

Is he not the hitting partner from Portoroz? It would kinda make sense to have him over [but we haven't seen Dina hit with him yet] cos the courts are similar to USO and Marko is getting lonely :p
I don't think that's the hitting partner for Portoroz. :scratch: He doesn't look anything like him to me. :shrug:

Whoops, sorry, I was using an old computer at work on that last post.
That was super confusing for about 5 seconds. :lol:

PersephoneDisco
Aug 31st, 2009, 04:14 PM
No worries Lexi :)

Huh, mystery deepens. It's a significant enough leap surely for people in athletics to get involved in tennis? Less so if you're on the physiotherapy etc etc side.

PersephoneDisco
Aug 31st, 2009, 04:17 PM
The saddest thing is to think of how much time we've spent actually discussing that. :lol: But yeah, everyone always says Dinara has these super huge shoulders, but next to Zeljko she looks downright narrow. I still never think the height difference looks that big in person, but who knows, maybe that's all about his hair construction. :p

:lol: It does add a few inches :angel:

I don't think that's the hitting partner for Portoroz. :scratch: He doesn't look anything like him to me. :shrug:

Oh. Well maybe he's just Marko's old Osaka buddy that happens to be in Flushing Meadows :lol:

camilia
Aug 31st, 2009, 05:23 PM
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6306/052tf.jpg

:haha: calm down Lexi :haha:

nikeshirtoffug
Aug 31st, 2009, 07:29 PM
I may have been a little excited yesterday. :lol:

vanúss
Aug 31st, 2009, 07:36 PM
I may have been a little excited yesterday. :lol:

I can understand that :lol: I mean nobody saw this one coming !
We didn't had to kidnap him in Croatia and threaten him to go back in Dina's team no matter how :shrug: That's worth shitting the pants :p

But i'm curious now i really want to know the story behind his comeback !

makini
Aug 31st, 2009, 09:01 PM
:woohoo: Dejan. Thanks for the pics ladies. Dejan :drool: that is going to be one good looking player's box.

ad-out
Aug 31st, 2009, 10:09 PM
Can't wait for tomorrow!!!

redsonja
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:55 AM
I may have been a little excited yesterday. :lol:
Maybe. Just a little. :lol:

But i'm curious now i really want to know the story behind his comeback !
I would pay cash for that information. :o

~Kiera~
Sep 2nd, 2009, 10:34 PM
Who said he couldn't coach her at the Slams? ;)

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4411/68658288.gif

camilia
Sep 2nd, 2009, 10:37 PM
I laughed so hard when I saw that during the match :haha:

vanúss
Sep 2nd, 2009, 10:39 PM
:haha: when i saw that i was like " come on she's gonna get a warning it's soooo obvious ! " but she didn't :rolleyes: i really wonder what Marko did to have one even more :rolls:

makini
Sep 2nd, 2009, 10:47 PM
:lol: they should publish a guide to the hand signals so that we can understand what they are saying to each other during matches :p

camilia
Sep 2nd, 2009, 10:53 PM
His lips were saying "down" but down what or what down I have no idea :p

bluestorm10
Sep 3rd, 2009, 06:11 AM
Do you guys know the show "Pardon The Interruption"? It's an American sports talk show where they discuss different sports items in a short time. Anyway, today I was surprised to see Dinara as one of their topics. I thought it was going to be about her struggling but it was actually about Zeljko. :lol: One of the hosts was really teeing off on him.

Anyway, I vacillate between thinking that the negativity actually "works" and that it's a relationship I will just never fully understand to wanting to hit him over the head with something. :lol:

redsonja
Sep 3rd, 2009, 06:23 AM
Dear God, they're getting a lot of play on ESPN lately. :lol:

Anyway, I don't know what to think about it either. :shrug: I mean, it's certainly true that there are athletes who feed more off negative energy than positive, and I think she's probably one of them. But I just can't help but think lately that the effectiveness of the tough love strategy has run its course with them, and he needs to try to at least be more neutral, if not downright positive. It may not be anything that's really changed between them, it may just be that she has so much other pressure on her now-- last year he could be negative because everyone else was relentlessly positive about her, now the press and other players are really picking on her and him being negative too may be the last straw. :shrug:

(Some days I'd like to hit him over the head with something, too, but I fear his hair gel would serve as a protective shield. :p)

vanúss
Sep 3rd, 2009, 11:29 AM
I really don't know about this all thing ! It doesn't bother me and for me it doesn't affect Dinara but if it does indeed then i hope she'll just tell him :shrug:

She said that Z was the first coach to actually listen to her to tell her that if she had something to say , she should say it since they are working FOR her , so i hope she does express her thoughts about this if it doesn't work for her anymore .

Dinayer
Sep 3rd, 2009, 12:50 PM
Who said he couldn't coach her at the Slams? ;)

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4411/68658288.gif

:rolls:

Dejan is back :hearts: :hearts:

~Kiera~
Sep 3rd, 2009, 01:10 PM
Do you guys know the show "Pardon The Interruption"? It's an American sports talk show where they discuss different sports items in a short time. Anyway, today I was surprised to see Dinara as one of their topics. I thought it was going to be about her struggling but it was actually about Zeljko. :lol: One of the hosts was really teeing off on him.

http://www.truveo.com/pti-role-play-september-2/id/1596379228

:lol:

vanúss
Sep 3rd, 2009, 01:22 PM
http://www.truveo.com/pti-role-play-september-2/id/1596379228

:lol:

Really ?! :rolls: i want one of those things with Dina's face and one with Zeljko's :haha:

PersephoneDisco
Sep 3rd, 2009, 01:43 PM
OMG!
the heads!!! hahaha!!!!!!!!!!

makini
Sep 3rd, 2009, 03:43 PM
:rolls: OMG

~Kiera~
Sep 3rd, 2009, 09:15 PM
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2112/24355645.jpg

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/716/22227284.jpg

PersephoneDisco
Sep 3rd, 2009, 09:17 PM
Marko's fashion sense is great :lol:

Her boys colour coordinate :hearts:

vanúss
Sep 3rd, 2009, 09:21 PM
Oh boy , they look HOOOT :hearts:

camilia
Sep 3rd, 2009, 09:36 PM
They look misrable :haha:

vanúss
Sep 3rd, 2009, 09:40 PM
They look misrable :haha:

it's part of what makes them look hot :drool:

camilia
Sep 3rd, 2009, 10:02 PM
it's part of what makes them look hot :drool:

;)

ad-out
Sep 3rd, 2009, 10:28 PM
I kind of miss the on court coaching.. Think of what we are missing with the last 2 matches! :shrug:

lilimi
Sep 3rd, 2009, 10:33 PM
They look misrable :haha:

sven groenveld had a similar look the other night when Ana lost :o :lol:

vanúss
Sep 3rd, 2009, 10:35 PM
I kind of miss the on court coaching.. Think of what we are missing with the last 2 matches! :shrug:

:hehehe: i feel guilty for wishing we could hear Zeljko yell on Dina :lol:

camilia
Sep 3rd, 2009, 10:45 PM
sven groenveld had a similar look the other night when Ana lost :o :lol:

Then that's it, Dejan and Marko were afraid Dina was about to lose and thought Z was going to yell at them too :lol:

makini
Sep 3rd, 2009, 11:01 PM
:hehehe: i feel guilty for wishing we could hear Zeljko yell on Dina :lol:

I'm pretty sure that Dina hears him in her head all the time :p which is not hard since they are together 24 hours a day.

They look great who are the women in the box?

camilia
Sep 3rd, 2009, 11:28 PM
I asked the same questions during the match Makini but it seems nobody knew :lol:

redsonja
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:34 AM
No idea who the other people in the box were, they came in early in the first set-- there were also two kids-- and Zeljko/Dejan seemed to know them, but we weren't sure who they were. :shrug:

nikeshirtoffug
Sep 4th, 2009, 02:07 AM
Kool and the Gang from today:

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/279/0252rh.jpg

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7053/0342r.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1779/0352r.jpg

redsonja
Sep 4th, 2009, 02:12 AM
Oh God, I love that last one so much. Marko stressed, Dejan contemplative, Zeljko yawning. :lol:

makini
Sep 4th, 2009, 02:18 AM
:lol: at Z yawning in the last pic. I also gave a big :haha: to the empty seat between Z and the rest of the team.
I saw the little girl in the pic and I was like OMG :eek: Z's wife and kid is there and then I saw the little boy and changed my mind. meh cute kids though. Thanks for the pics :)

vanúss
Sep 4th, 2009, 09:46 AM
That last pic is too funny :lol: Just like that you can tell who's dwarf they each are :p

Zeljko yawning , that's the result of spending 24 hours with Dinara :rolleyes:

PersephoneDisco
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:06 PM
[snort] Kool and the Gang, oh Lexi you don't half kill me :lol:

That last pic just epitomises every guy :lol: Brilliant!

~Kiera~
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:10 PM
Zeljko's tired again :lol: You have to let him have a rest sometimes, Dina :p

Thanks, Lexi :)

vanúss
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:13 PM
Zeljko's tired again :lol: You have to let him have a rest sometimes, Dina :p

Thanks, Lexi :)

Her stamina is too good thanks to Marko and Dejan...It's a Team work :spit:

nikeshirtoffug
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:24 PM
I hadn't even noticed until I looked through my pics last night Marko's hiding progression. Poor little guy. He looked so stressed. Christina and I figure he comes from swimming where a race lasts a couple of minutes. Sitting through a 2-3 hr match is killing him.

And Dejan and Zeljko are back to their routine where Zac rants and raves, arms flying wildly while Dejan sits there nodding and staring into space. I missed that. Misty water colored memories......

PersephoneDisco
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:50 PM
I had that eureka moment where I saw Dejan and I just contently shouted out 'Dejan is back!" :)

vanúss
Sep 4th, 2009, 01:54 PM
i'm really annoyed that nobody asked her yet why that hottie is back :o

nikeshirtoffug
Sep 4th, 2009, 02:12 PM
i'm really annoyed that nobody asked her yet why that hottie is back :o

I'm afraid I can guarantee that no one in the USO press pool is going to ask her unless one of us sneaks in. :lol: I figure the only way it will be discussed is if she or Zeljko do an interview with a Croatian paper.

Aleksandrina
Sep 4th, 2009, 02:21 PM
http://s51.radikal.ru/i134/0909/e9/ad6571c06e41.jpg

Aleksandrina
Sep 4th, 2009, 02:22 PM
http://s50.radikal.ru/i129/0909/e5/dc409d48ebb1.jpg

camilia
Sep 4th, 2009, 05:38 PM
Oh God, I love that last one so much. Marko stressed, Dejan contemplative, Zeljko yawning. :lol:

Marko is stressed cuz now he's always scared of coaching violations , look at how he's hiding his face behind his arms:p

~Kiera~
Sep 6th, 2009, 01:05 AM
http://www.dnevnik.si/sport/tenis/1042296328

"Top tennis will also very likely cause a stomach ulcer with me," foresees the coach of Dinara Safina, Croat Zeljko Krajan, who admitted that at each of her matches he gets a consecutive series of severe stomach cramps.

redsonja
Sep 6th, 2009, 01:09 AM
I believe that. In Portoroz I thought he might puke all over Marko.

PersephoneDisco
Sep 6th, 2009, 01:09 AM
http://www.dnevnik.si/sport/tenis/1042296328

:haha: X 1,000,000! There's a lot of bad karma waiting to be formed as a stomach ulcer for you, Z. Lighten the F up. ;)

As long as it's not Marko getting the stomach ulcer first! Methinks after Dina, Z won't have the energy to coach another player.

camilia
Sep 6th, 2009, 01:21 AM
Poor Z :lol:

makini
Sep 6th, 2009, 01:28 AM
http://www.dnevnik.si/sport/tenis/1042296328

:lol: sometimes I feel like that when I watch Dina play too.

vanúss
Sep 6th, 2009, 01:35 AM
:rolls::rolls::rolls:
Instead of a car Dina's giving him a stomach ulcer , even better :p

Portoroz was all kind of awesome and Z attitude during the final was a clear highlight :lol:

We're all gonna end up with an ulcer :scared: OR a breakdown and all go to the same mental institute :shrug:

DS.Fan.
Sep 6th, 2009, 02:37 AM
http://www.dnevnik.si/sport/tenis/1042296328

:haha: :haha: Poor Z:hug:

~Kiera~
Sep 6th, 2009, 12:55 PM
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3826/21942247.jpg

:lol:

PersephoneDisco
Sep 6th, 2009, 12:57 PM
:haha: Yes the match deserved a :shrug: of a smile.

vanúss
Sep 6th, 2009, 01:07 PM
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3826/21942247.jpg

:lol:

I totaly melted in front of my TV when i saw him make that face :hearts:

PersephoneDisco
Sep 6th, 2009, 01:42 PM
I melted when I saw Marko and his look of concern, this guy is just :hearts:

vanúss
Sep 6th, 2009, 01:51 PM
that too and Dejan looking like he's trying to get used to the Drama surrounding Dinara all over again !

makini
Sep 6th, 2009, 03:05 PM
that too and Dejan looking like he's trying to get used to the Drama surrounding Dinara all over again !

He was probably like shit I hope that I don't get fired again this time. :p Marko trying to cheer while not making it obvious made me :lol: The real highlight of the Coco team was the random guy who was leaning over the side of the wall during the 6-5 game he looked like he was whispering in her ear every time she went to towel off.

PersephoneDisco
Sep 6th, 2009, 03:08 PM
He was probably like shit I hope that I don't get fired again this time. :p Marko trying to cheer while not making it obvious made me :lol: The real highlight of the Coco team was the random guy who was leaning over the side of the wall during the 6-5 game he looked like he was whispering in her ear every time she went to towel off.

The guy with the green and white cap with the teens! His celebration on mp for Dina was so :awww: Dinatard right there! I felt worse for him when Dina lost!
He looked like a counsellor for city kids - hey kids, I'll show you how to control your anger towards the establishment, I'm taking you to a Dinara Safina tennis match! :D

camilia
Sep 6th, 2009, 04:25 PM
I didn't notice that guy, I was so nervous :sobbing: I really hope Dina's team managed to cheer her up, I don't like the idea of her being sad for long :awww:

Dinayer
Sep 7th, 2009, 06:41 PM
where's my A-TEAM? :sobbing:
I need THE A-TEAM Back :awww:

~Kiera~
Sep 7th, 2009, 11:34 PM
http://www.tennis.com/features/general/features.aspx?id=184680

Mad Professor

Zeljko Krajan: In Melbourne earlier this year, Krajan seemed to be just what Dinara Safina needed: An upbeat, patient, competent coach who could coax her out of bad moods and drive home key lessons in practice. Seven months later, Krajan looks to be the worst man for the job. As Safina misses, screams and struggles to hold serve, Krajan, seated in Safina's box, shakes his head, covers his face, shouts critical remarks, and even laughs ruefully. Safina can't be the easiest player to coach, but there must be someone who can take charge of her career without all the negative energy. Let's hope she finds that someone soon.

vanúss
Sep 7th, 2009, 11:48 PM
that's the last straw for me ! It's too easy to blame him for everything ! Sure he's part of the problem but not THE problem , that bugs the hell out of me :o

PersephoneDisco
Sep 7th, 2009, 11:51 PM
Thanks Sarah.

Ahh wishful thinking tennis.com. She won't so...http://www.allemoticons.com/Music/Music_0151.gif

camilia
Sep 8th, 2009, 12:10 AM
Thanks Sarah.

Ahh wishful thinking tennis.com. She won't so...http://www.allemoticons.com/Music/Music_0151.gif

:haha:

Nina.
Sep 8th, 2009, 12:47 AM
that's the last straw for me ! It's too easy to blame him for everything ! Sure he's part of the problem but not THE problem , that bugs the hell out of me :o

They're both to blame. And even more when they don't realize that they have to change something in the way they work and interact together.

vanúss
Sep 8th, 2009, 12:54 AM
They're both to blame. And even more when they don't realize that they have to change something in the way they work and interact together.

Yes they are both to blame , but people seems to think that her getting ride of Zeljko would be the best decision but i disagree :bs:
It's up to them to fix what's wrong , whatever what we/they think it is !
I'm in the "wait and see" mode until Beijing :p

Nina.
Sep 8th, 2009, 12:59 AM
Yes they are both to blame , but people seems to think that her getting ride of Zeljko would be the best decision but i disagree :bs:
It's up to them to fix what's wrong , whatever what we/they think it is !
I'm in the "wait and see" mode until Beijing :p

But you just look from the outside it seems to be the best solution (honestly I would have beaten him with my rackets so many times when he sits there complaining, shaking his head, etc. uncountable time :p) until you hear her talking about him. She has to become more independent from him and realize that she is the one who is playing, winning and the one who got to no.1. And it's Krajan's job to tell her that - since she doesn't want to take outside advice. Until this happens I don't see major improvement.
She will make QFs, SFs, finals and probably win a few. But she won't win big, imo, when it continues like this.

vanúss
Sep 8th, 2009, 01:36 AM
But you just look from the outside it seems to be the best solution (honestly I would have beaten him with my rackets so many times when he sits there complaining, shaking his head, etc. uncountable time :p) until you hear her talking about him. She has to become more independent from him and realize that she is the one who is playing, winning and the one who got to no.1. And it's Krajan's job to tell her that - since she doesn't want to take outside advice. Until this happens I don't see major improvement.
She will make QFs, SFs, finals and probably win a few. But she won't win big, imo, when it continues like this.

Sometimes she looks like she tries but cannot succeed , like at Wimbledon during her match against Sabine .

I agree that from the outside it may be the solution but i just hate it when someone tries to get me an idea in my head absolutely persuaded that it's the right one , so i guess that's the thing i feel like they try to do with Dinara and it makes me :fiery: :lol:

But i'd rather debate over this than her #1 ranking ;)

redsonja
Sep 8th, 2009, 01:58 AM
But you just look from the outside it seems to be the best solution (honestly I would have beaten him with my rackets so many times when he sits there complaining, shaking his head, etc. uncountable time :p) until you hear her talking about him. She has to become more independent from him and realize that she is the one who is playing, winning and the one who got to no.1. And it's Krajan's job to tell her that - since she doesn't want to take outside advice. Until this happens I don't see major improvement.
She will make QFs, SFs, finals and probably win a few. But she won't win big, imo, when it continues like this.

+1 I'm not expecting any progress from her for a long time.

PersephoneDisco
Sep 8th, 2009, 02:11 AM
Maybe it was in the Fates that Z would only coach Dina to the level that she is at now. But I'm just wondering what kind of a character would be able to get her to wins slam finals, because I love Z, his antics/demeanour/the dynamics of the two are pure gold for me.

makini
Sep 8th, 2009, 02:53 AM
Maybe it was in the Fates that Z would only coach Dina to the level that she is at now. But I'm just wondering what kind of a character would be able to get her to wins slam finals, because I love Z, his antics/demeanour/the dynamics of the two are pure gold for me.

I kind of agree about Z coaching Dina to this level. It seems that most of what holds her back is her head and her need to prove to him that she is worthy of his time. She needs to find a way to get over both of those things.
I don't know who will be sadder about a Dina/Z split me or her. Dina obviously doesn't trust easily so if she does get a new coach it would have to be someone that she trusts which may take a while. I have a feeling that everyone else will go before Z. Next year is going to be interesting.

tejmeglekvßr
Sep 8th, 2009, 09:29 AM
http://www.tennis.com/features/general/features.aspx?id=184680

/for once, i'm being serious
It's not just the player who has hard times. If the man barely can see his family and kid, and has to travel all time, that's kinda difficult for almost everybody. And together with somebody 24/7 who can't tie her shoes, well not so amusing every time. So i can't blame Z for everything, even he act's like he is freakin' Napoleon... It's Dina's turn i guess.
/serious mode off

but i just want to punch in his face!

tejmeglekvßr
Sep 8th, 2009, 09:42 AM
next year they have to drop the useless MickyMouse tournaments.
i don't know if she wants to play in FED Cup, if she plays in Serbia would be good to drop Dubai too.

Caralenko
Sep 8th, 2009, 10:07 AM
I agree with Norbi :o Z can only do so much for her, and I think his niche is coaching from the bottom to the top. NOT remaining at the top. I don't think she needs to ditch him, because he has spent a lot of time and effort on her, but I think she should expand her team :help:

vanúss
Sep 8th, 2009, 12:48 PM
I kind of agree about Z coaching Dina to this level. It seems that most of what holds her back is her head and her need to prove to him that she is worthy of his time. She needs to find a way to get over both of those things.
I don't know who will be sadder about a Dina/Z split me or her. Dina obviously doesn't trust easily so if she does get a new coach it would have to be someone that she trusts which may take a while. I have a feeling that everyone else will go before Z. Next year is going to be interesting.

I would be crushed :sobbing: They have to deal with their issues , they don't necessarily need to "break up" , her problem won't disappear with someone else than Z since she'll look for a coach and still not for a sport psychologist .

I agree Norbi she has to give up Dubai and come to freaking Paris in february instead :o

~Kiera~
Sep 8th, 2009, 12:54 PM
http://www.montrealgazette.com/entertainment/Women+tennis+lonely+sport/1970939/story.html

Women's tennis is a lonely sport

High pressure. Coached by men, live in a cocoon

By STEPHANIE MYLES, The GazetteSeptember 8, 2009 4:05 AM

The thesaurus has been thumbed to death during the U.S. Open, as people search for new adjectives to describe Melanie Oudin.

Feisty, gutsy and spunky. Fresh and refreshing, cute and adorable. The next saviour of American tennis.

The 17-year-old's run to the quarterfinals has rescued a women's event that's been as excruciating as a root canal.

But her success is also directly related to the current state of the women's game.

Oudin is where she is because she's fresh meat. She doesn't yet feel the pressure, hasn't yet played with so much at stake, hasn't yet suffered the wear and tear on her body and emotions caused by years of top-level tennis.

She isn't yet afraid to lose, or afraid to win. She just hits the ball and competes.

All credit to her; she's obviously promising. But what Oudin has mostly done is put the tennis ball in the court, run like hell, hang in there, and watch her opponents blow their brains out.

Jennifer Capriati was once refreshing and happy-go-lucky, too, remember? Ana Ivanovic was sweet and unaffected. Jelena Jankovic was sassy, smiling and spunky.

These days, you feel as though you're peeking in on the painful breakup of a teenage romance. That's how raw the emotions are. You can't even call it a collective choke; it's so far beyond that. First Ivanovic imploded after an effortless rise to No. 1. Then Jankovic began making excuses and searching - for what, we're not sure. Dinara Safina's reign at No. 1 has been fodder for Freud.

Even Venus Williams, once considered one of the strongest competitors out there, has faltered.

The only ones we're not worried about are Serena Williams and Maria Sharapova. They're the only two.

The women on the WTA Tour have always been copycats, whether it was the grunting, the turning their back to the court between points, their brief flirtations with that mysterious thing called the volley.

But like the flu bug that sweeps through the Canadiens' dressing room every season, it's as though the pheromones have conspired to create a collective bottomless pit of pressure too deep for the women to climb out of.

This is what women do; we put major pressure on ourselves to achieve. While the boys are sitting in the back row in high school, joking around, checking out girls, the girls are copiously taking notes, trying to get A's, aiming to please the teacher.

Those who have children try to be Mom of the Century. Those who have kids, a husband and a career twist themselves into multitasking pretzels trying to be superwoman.

The women's game is so competitive these days, so lucrative, the rewards open to anyone with the guts to take them, that there has never been so much at stake.

But the women are coached by men. They practice with men. Reporters and agents are mostly male. And the women are expected - unfairly - to compete like men.

They can't; they're not wired that way. And when the wiring goes awry, their entourages have no answers.

On the way up, everything is golden. Whatever their technical flaws - the abject lack of serving technique that is at the root of the plague of double faults we've been seeing is just one area - it doesn't matter. The girls are winning.

But this generation has been locked into a safe little cocoon from an early age - often home-schooled, isolated from their peers, with no outside interests and no means to develop the life skills they'll need at crunch time.

Crunch time is now. And the top women look as helpless as infants trying to cope.

It makes me crazy when I see a coach like Zeljko Krajan, who works with Safina. He's negative, unforgiving. When his charge is melting down, when she desperately needs to look up and see a smile, a fist pump, something that says "I believe in you, no matter what," she gets nothing.

He looks disdainful. And he's hardly the only one.

The Croatian was a journeyman who boasted a 9-28 career record. He played two Grand Slam matches. What would he know about it?

It's to the point where you want the top women to ditch their parents, coaches and entourages for a week and take off together, to the fanciest spa on the planet.

A week of pampering, sharing war stories, girl bonding with the only other humans who can relate to their angst, would do wonders.

That would be half the battle, because they all look pretty alone right now - never more than when they're surrounded by 20,000 people.

But they shouldn't invite Oudin. Why burst her bubble? She'll learn all about it soon enough.

PersephoneDisco
Sep 8th, 2009, 01:01 PM
Now that's an article.

Thanks Sarah.

vanúss
Sep 8th, 2009, 01:10 PM
:o

redsonja
Sep 8th, 2009, 01:33 PM
WTA spa week. :lol: There's a reality show. :p

True, though. So, so true. Those people are so isolated. :unsure:

vanúss
Sep 8th, 2009, 01:36 PM
WTA spa week. :lol: There's a reality show. :p

True, though. So, so true. Those people are so isolated. :unsure:

Especially in Tennis , it reminded me of that article you wrote (i believe) on Forty Deuce :sad:

Nina.
Sep 8th, 2009, 06:04 PM
A lot of truth in this article...

makini
Sep 8th, 2009, 07:16 PM
Thanks Sarah.

I think that Dina is one person who would benefit greatly from having a woman in her camp. As much as I love looking at the eye candy in her box I really think that she should look into that.

WTA spa week. :lol: There's a reality show. :p

True, though. So, so true. Those people are so isolated. :unsure:

I would totally watch a WTA reality show. They can put it on VH1 since that seems to be the reality show network. :p

~Kiera~
Sep 9th, 2009, 01:01 AM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203440104574401030873119344.html?m od=googlenews_wsj

Focus on Mental Game

As a result, many coaches choose to focus on psychological improvement. Borja Uribe, a coach who works with 24-year-old Spanish player Daniel Gimeno-Traver, says he has been working all summer to get his player to toss the ball in the air more consistently, but is most focused on making Mr. Gimeno-Traver tougher.

"Technically he can improve, but the most important part is mental, to control his emotions better." Zelko Krajan, the coach for Dinara Safina, the world's top-ranked female player, who could be seen agonizing in the stands as she nearly lost in the first round, says tennis is more like boxing than golf.

"There is another player you are trying to do better than, and that makes it very difficult." Ms. Safina lost in the third round and has never won a Grand Slam.

nikeshirtoffug
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:31 PM
Nice, Zeljko.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9868/592021.jpg


I'd never noticed the tattoo on his wrist before.

PersephoneDisco
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:40 PM
Thanks Lexi!

Don't tell me its his wedding date in Roman numerals or summat like that.. :spit:

Ashi
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:42 PM
Yeah maybe:devil:

Just a constant reminder to dindin when on the road, that he's taken, in case she forgets!:angel:

tejmeglekvßr
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:45 PM
Nice, Zeljko.

I'd never noticed the tattoo on his wrist before.

just hoping dinara won't be envious these kind of tattoos. :tape:

redsonja
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:50 PM
Nice, Zeljko.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9868/592021.jpg
Poor dear, the stress just tires him out. :p The day we were at practice and he kept complaining to Dinara about how tired he was, I was totally :lol:.

I'd never noticed the tattoo on his wrist before.
Me either. :shrug: Of course, now I must know what it says.

PersephoneDisco
Sep 13th, 2009, 03:55 PM
The more I look at it, the more I think my inital observation is right. It totally reminds me of Vicky Beckhams's tattoo :p

nikeshirtoffug
Sep 13th, 2009, 04:04 PM
On flickr (where I saw the photo) you can see the tattoo a little clearer. It's Roman numerals and all I can make out is the end MMVII which is 2007. I'm assuming, since she's two, it's Chiara's birthday. Or maybe he also got married in 2007.

Or maybe the day he met Dinara. :lol:

redsonja
Sep 13th, 2009, 04:22 PM
On flickr (where I saw the photo) you can see the tattoo a little clearer. It's Roman numerals and all I can make out is the end MMVII which is 2007. I'm assuming, since she's two, it's Chiara's birthday. Or maybe he also got married in 2007.

Or maybe the day he met Dinara. :lol:

[snicker]

PersephoneDisco
Sep 13th, 2009, 04:31 PM
On flickr (where I saw the photo) you can see the tattoo a little clearer. It's Roman numerals and all I can make out is the end MMVII which is 2007. I'm assuming, since she's two, it's Chiara's birthday. Or maybe he also got married in 2007.

Or maybe the day he met Dinara. :lol:

OMG :lol:

There's just so much grey and coincidental overlap when it comes to Mrs Z, Zac, Chiara and Dina.

vanúss
Sep 13th, 2009, 04:36 PM
Or maybe the day he met Dinara. :lol:

:haha: i'm sure she offered to pay for that tattoo , it was a sort of test to show his devotion :p

I love Z's tattoos , but i'm not a fan of the meaning behind them though :p

vanúss
Sep 13th, 2009, 04:39 PM
Poor dear, the stress just tires him out. :p The day we were at practice and he kept complaining to Dinara about how tired he was, I was totally :lol:.


:spit: he said that ?! Z z z *shaking my head* :lol:

vanúss
Sep 13th, 2009, 05:22 PM
i'm trying to figure out this freaking tattoo :(

what i see which is probably not what's written is : III IVMMVII 04/03/2007

i've been through pictures of Z and can't find one where this tattoo is more clear :sad: This is going to piss me off not to be able to know what it means :haha:

nikeshirtoffug
Sep 13th, 2009, 05:24 PM
:spit: he said that ?! Z z z *shaking my head* :lol:

He did. Okay, well, not that I heard it. Christina has like super sonar hearing, or something. :lol: But after he told her, he decided to walk over to the chair, sit down, stretch himself out, and then started laughing at Dinara. I assume there was some sort of inside joke involved, which quite frankly, I prefer not to be privy to.

Ashi
Sep 13th, 2009, 05:26 PM
He did. Okay, well, not that I heard it. Christina has like super sonar hearing, or something. :lol: But after he told her, he decided to walk over to the chair, sit down, stretch himself out, and then started laughing at Dinara. [B]I assume there was some sort of inside joke involved, which quite frankly, I prefer not to be privy to.

:tape::p