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^bibi^
Sep 15th, 2008, 03:55 PM
Let's see who would qualify...

If I understand correctly, in order to qualify, players have to have won an intenrational event (at the moment Tier III/IV events) and NOT qualify for YEC in Doha.

So Basically, at the moment we have 19 players who have won at least 1 "International Event" :

Na Li
Lindsay Davenport [2]
Eleni Daniilidou
Agnieska Radwanska [2]
Flavia Pennetta [2]
Nuria Llagostera-Vives
Maria Kirilenko [2]
Vera Zvonareva
Gisela Dulko
Anabel medina-Garrigues
Kateryna Bondarenko
Tamarine Tanasugarn
Alizé Cornet
Sara Errani [2]
Pauline Parmentier
Caroline Wozniacki
Nadia Petrova
Lucie Safarova
Patty Schnyder

Only one of them, Radwanska, is currently in position to be qualified for the YEC (she's 9th, but it seems Masha won't be there anyways...)

So according to the race ranking, the current 10 players who would qualify would be :

Vera Zvonareva [#10]
Patty Schnyder [#11]
Caroline Wozniacki [#12]
Flavia Pennetta [#13]
Alizé Cornet [#14]
Nadia Petrova [#18]
Anabel medina-Garrigues [#25]
Na Li [#26]
Lindsay Davenport [#30]
Maria Kirilenko [#31]

The last two spots are supposed to be WC's...

As much as I love the idea of this event, I'm not sure promoting it as the YEC for future stars is really a good idea... Apart from Cornet & Wozniacki, and maybe Kirilenko, all the qualified players are quite experienced on the tour...

darkchild
Sep 15th, 2008, 04:02 PM
Lindsay will win this without breaking a sweat...

^bibi^
Sep 15th, 2008, 04:03 PM
well she won't, as it won't be played... :p

Shvedbarilescu
Sep 15th, 2008, 05:45 PM
I could be wrong but I believe only ranking points earned at Tier III and IV events would count towards qualifying. Hence a player like Na Li who hasn't played below Tier II level since winning the Goldcoast event the 1st week of the year might not qualify.

Meelis
Sep 15th, 2008, 05:59 PM
I could be wrong but I believe only ranking points earned at Tier III and IV events would count towards qualifying.

Then it would be:

Player TOTPTS TRN

1 PENNETTA, FLAVIA ITA 492.00 10
2 ERRANI, SARA ITA 407.00 11
3 MEDINA GARRIGUES, ANABEL ESP 397.00 8
4 KIRILENKO, MARIA RUS 356.00 6
5 RADWANSKA, AGNIESZKA POL 306.00 4
6 KORYTTSEVA, MARIYA UKR 304.00 9
7 ZAKOPALOVA, KLARA CZE 303.00 11
8 SREBOTNIK, KATARINA SLO 300.00 7
9 LLAGOSTERA VIVES, NURIA ESP 272.00 6
10 BENESOVA, IVETA CZE 268.00 11
11 PARMENTIER, PAULINE FRA 259.00 9
12 DAVENPORT, LINDSAY USA 255.00 2
13 PETROVA, NADIA RUS 251.00 4
14 CORNET, ALIZE FRA 242.00 4
15 SCHNYDER, PATTY SUI 230.00 2
16 ZVONAREVA, VERA RUS 225.00 3

But it will be a lot different next year ;)

Shvedbarilescu
Sep 15th, 2008, 06:56 PM
Then it would be:

Player TOTPTS TRN

1 PENNETTA, FLAVIA ITA 492.00 10
2 ERRANI, SARA ITA 407.00 11
3 MEDINA GARRIGUES, ANABEL ESP 397.00 8
4 KIRILENKO, MARIA RUS 356.00 6
5 RADWANSKA, AGNIESZKA POL 306.00 4
6 KORYTTSEVA, MARIYA UKR 304.00 9
7 ZAKOPALOVA, KLARA CZE 303.00 11
8 SREBOTNIK, KATARINA SLO 300.00 7
9 LLAGOSTERA VIVES, NURIA ESP 272.00 6
10 BENESOVA, IVETA CZE 268.00 11
11 PARMENTIER, PAULINE FRA 259.00 9
12 DAVENPORT, LINDSAY USA 255.00 2
13 PETROVA, NADIA RUS 251.00 4
14 CORNET, ALIZE FRA 242.00 4
15 SCHNYDER, PATTY SUI 230.00 2
16 ZVONAREVA, VERA RUS 225.00 3

But it will be a lot different next year ;)

Yeah that looks right to me. Except wouldn't Wozniacki also be there somewhere on that list?

Jorn
Sep 15th, 2008, 07:23 PM
Ithink Caroline has earn her points in bigger Tier and GS tournaments (Even she won in Stockholm)

Vamos.
Sep 15th, 2008, 09:38 PM
Daniela can't even qualify for this. :tape:

She is so bad.

serenus_2k8
Sep 15th, 2008, 09:41 PM
I like the idea of this tounry, but its much better if its just the next few players who dont qualify for the better YEC I think.

LCS
Sep 15th, 2008, 09:42 PM
This supposed YEC is a joke. Larry Scott has been on crack for ages.

frenchie
Sep 15th, 2008, 09:48 PM
I like that idea!

I hope the qualifiers will be those who earned the most of points in international events
It will be players like Pennetta, Kirilenko, Cornet, maybe Benesova or Zakopalova

serenus_2k8
Sep 15th, 2008, 09:51 PM
I like that idea!

I hope the qualifiers will be those who earned the most of points in international events
It will be players like Pennetta, Kirilenko, Cornet, maybe Benesova or Zakopalova

That idea sux coz it makes the tour too seperated, and is unfair on the players who are 9th and 10th etc in the race.

frenchie
Sep 15th, 2008, 09:56 PM
That idea sux coz it makes the tour too seperated, and is unfair on the players who are 9th and 10th etc in the race.

I think the main problem is that it's not fair for players ranked 10 to 20

I mean they play a mixed schedule of high tier tournaments and international events. It means they have no chance to qualify for any of the 2 YEC

It favors Top 10 players who are almost guaranteed to take part to the main YEC (well 8 players) and it favors players around 40 to 60 who play mainly international events, especially on clay
I can see Benesova, Errani and Zakopalova getting into Bali next year

SV_Fan
Sep 15th, 2008, 10:15 PM
I dont get it. Whats the Bali way of YEC?

Harvs
Sep 15th, 2008, 10:49 PM
this is so stupid... it should use all tournament points and just be the players ranked 9-20 on the race:shrug:

LCS
Sep 15th, 2008, 10:53 PM
I still think this is a crappy tournament, with no future whatsoever.

switz
Sep 15th, 2008, 11:01 PM
Lindsay will win this without breaking a sweat...

yeah after being demolished by Bartoli i really don't think any of those player could touch Lindsay in her current form.

Wiggly
Sep 15th, 2008, 11:11 PM
It's a bit ridiculous to have a YEC with top 40-60 players. :tape:
Even if Iveta is the epitome of the type of players who could qualify.

disco_rage
Sep 16th, 2008, 11:40 AM
i thought it was the 10 best ranked players (who havent made YEC) but have won at LEAST one title on the Tour

^bibi^
Sep 16th, 2008, 12:07 PM
i thought it was the 10 best ranked players (who havent made YEC) but have won at LEAST one title on the Tour

that's what I thought too :shrug: and that's how the initial list was made... Honestly I don't know what they'll do :shrug:

FORZA SARITA
Sep 16th, 2008, 12:12 PM
so next year we'll have 2 differents YEC?:confused:

^bibi^
Sep 16th, 2008, 12:14 PM
yes :p

though I'm not sure Bali will be called YEC... I think there's another name for that one lol

I'd like to have an ITF YEC while we're at it :p

Meelis
Sep 16th, 2008, 12:16 PM
so next year we'll have 2 differents YEC?:confused:

Yes. Sony Ericsson Championships in Doha and Commonwealth Bank Tournament of Champions in Doha

i thought it was the 10 best ranked players (who havent made YEC) but have won at LEAST one title on the Tour

that's what I thought too :shrug: and that's how the initial list was made... Honestly I don't know what they'll do :shrug:

You are right.


The Commonwealth Bank Tournament of Champions, set to take place in Bali, Indonesia from November 4-8 in 2009, will feature top Tour players and next generation champions competing in an innovative 12-woman round robin singles format (four groups of three players), and offer both $600,000 in prize money and an opportunity to earn a $1-million bonus. The highest-ranked 10 players who have won at least one International tournament during the year and who are not participating in singles at the year-end Sony Ericsson Championships will qualify for the event, along with two wildcards. A player who wins three International tournaments and the season-ending Commonwealth Bank Tournament of Champions will take home the additional $1-million bonus on top of her prize money.

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/3/newsroom/stories/?ContentID=2619

FORZA SARITA
Sep 16th, 2008, 12:19 PM
what a stupid idea:tape:

^bibi^
Sep 16th, 2008, 12:24 PM
definitely not the most stupid one they had in my opinion... Must be fun to have a lower-level YEC and it adds extra motivation for non-top 10 players to keep on playing on WTA tour instead of big ITF ŕ la Müller...

Fantasy Hero
Sep 16th, 2008, 12:25 PM
so next year we'll have 2 differents YEC?:confused:

yea..one for 1-8 and one, with less Prize Money and ranking point, for best ranked 12 who won't play at YEC (!1) and had win at least one tier 2/3

ChrisCologne
Sep 16th, 2008, 12:51 PM
This event is as much a marketing strategy as the Grand Slam Cup was during the 90ies.

As the Grand Slam Cup in Munich was an opportunity to promote tennis in Europe at the time Steffi Graf was still playing and Martina Hingis came up, this is a way to promote tennis in Asia.

No doubt that the likes of Mirza, Li, Zheng, Peng and others would be among those qualifying. I believe that a number of players such as Davenport would not play here but when it comes to those of Hantuchova, Petrova or others, why should they skip such an event in such a beautiful surrounding for the season finale? I remember a time when one week after the Masters there still was an event in Pattaya or whereever where Spirlea or Hack or Schnyder played to end the year. So, now, with an event of youngsters, not bad.

Ellery
Sep 16th, 2008, 02:12 PM
This event is as much a marketing strategy as the Grand Slam Cup was during the 90ies.

As the Grand Slam Cup in Munich was an opportunity to promote tennis in Europe at the time Steffi Graf was still playing and Martina Hingis came up, this is a way to promote tennis in Asia.

No doubt that the likes of Mirza, Li, Zheng, Peng and others would be among those qualifying. I believe that a number of players such as Davenport would not play here but when it comes to those of Hantuchova, Petrova or others, why should they skip such an event in such a beautiful surrounding for the season finale? I remember a time when one week after the Masters there still was an event in Pattaya or whereever where Spirlea or Hack or Schnyder played to end the year. So, now, with an event of youngsters, not bad.

Actually, Na only plays tier II and tier Is these days so not really :p

disco_rage
Sep 16th, 2008, 02:16 PM
Personally i think it's a great idea... but let's see how it works next year....

SOA_MC
Sep 17th, 2008, 01:52 AM
So does this mean the top 8 YEC reserves will get ranking points by just being reserves?

Because it doesn't seem fair the #9 and #10 girls in the race probably won't have a chance to pick up any points while those who finished #11 - #20 will and possibly past them in the rankings and get a better seeding for the Australian Open

Tamus
Sep 17th, 2008, 02:03 AM
A player who wins three International tournaments and the season-ending Commonwealth Bank Tournament of Champions will take home the additional $1-million bonus on top of her prize money.

:eek:

^bibi^
Sep 17th, 2008, 06:03 AM
So does this mean the top 8 YEC reserves will get ranking points by just being reserves?

Because it doesn't seem fair the #9 and #10 girls in the race probably won't have a chance to pick up any points while those who finished #11 - #20 will and possibly past them in the rankings and get a better seeding for the Australian Open

Bali YEC is played the week after the DOha YEC, so those who were alternate in Doha but didn't participate will still be eligible to play in Bali (or at least that's what i'm guessing...)