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SOA_MC
Sep 4th, 2008, 01:01 AM
Hmmmmmmmmmm wonder why there's no thread on this yet:confused: Oh well guess I'll start it

Brett Farve now a Jet will the Jets do anything this season?

Aaron Rogers first full season as starting QB for the Packers how will he go?

The Giants elite team or fluke?

The Patriots still a dominate team?

Will the Lions still suck?

All these questions and more to be answered starting with the Giants and Redskins kicking it off on September 4

Danči Dementia
Sep 4th, 2008, 02:09 AM
NFL............:ras:

doni1212
Sep 4th, 2008, 03:39 AM
About time somebody started this, :p
Steelers all the way, :rocker2:

kiwifan
Sep 4th, 2008, 04:48 AM
The season doesn't really start until Sunday, 11am, Hawaiian Time when Dallas gives the Browns their first football lesson of the season. :hehehe:

hankqq
Sep 4th, 2008, 05:17 AM
I'm sure I'll be an outsider on this, but go Patriots! :yeah: We have Gisele Bündchen on our side too :ras:

aussie_fan
Sep 4th, 2008, 11:38 AM
Ten HD with at least 2 games per week :drool:

Go Jets, hopefully favre can do well, need to get off to a winning start and beat miami because if we can't beat them then who can we beat.

Hurricane Lily
Sep 4th, 2008, 01:49 PM
Let's Go Dallas Cowboys!! :bounce:

Martian Martin
Sep 4th, 2008, 04:56 PM
Go Denver! ;)

Should be a good season, looking forward to it. The usual suspects battling it out in the AFC no doubt and there's a whole bunch of teams capable of making it through the NFC.

Maybe we should have done a fantasy league :p

SloKid
Sep 5th, 2008, 11:11 AM
Nice start by the Giants, defence picked up, where they left off last year. I'm not expecting a repeat of last year, because that would be crazy, I just hope for a nice season without much turmoil, there's been enough in the past years.

jonnyroyale_13
Sep 6th, 2008, 01:42 AM
Im thinking a 11-5 season for the Bears, beginning with a loss to the Colts.:tape:

Hurricane Lily
Sep 12th, 2008, 04:49 PM
Monday Night Football!! Cowboys vs Eagles!! wooohoooo.. let's go boys!!! :bounce:

doni1212
Sep 13th, 2008, 03:54 AM
I'm sure I'll be an outsider on this, but go Patriots! :yeah: We have Gisele Bündchen on our side too :ras:

....:help: :rolls:

Sorry, I just had to Hank, :lol:

dybbuk
Sep 13th, 2008, 03:56 AM
Please don't let us suck too much this season. :yawn:

SOA_MC
Sep 13th, 2008, 04:09 AM
Monday Night Football!! Cowboys vs Eagles!! wooohoooo.. let's go boys!!! :bounce:

Eagles fan here:devil: The boy's are going down:armed:

Hurricane Lily
Sep 13th, 2008, 12:33 PM
Eagles fan here:devil: The boy's are going down:armed:
Aright!! Eagles fan!!! let's gooo!! :armed:

tenn_ace
Sep 13th, 2008, 01:02 PM
I'm sure I'll be an outsider on this, but go Patriots! :yeah: We have Gisele Bündchen on our side too :ras:

I'm with you :wavey: Let's go Matt Cas[tle] :lol:

doni1212
Sep 13th, 2008, 05:31 PM
Please don't let us suck too much this season. :yawn:

Who are you cheering for?

hankqq
Sep 13th, 2008, 06:37 PM
....:help: :rolls:

Sorry, I just had to Hank, :lol:

:fiery: If you weren't a Serena/Venus/Ivanovic fan, I would've bad repped you right about now...

I'm with you :wavey: Let's go Matt Cas[tle] :lol:

:worship: :bounce: someone else is siding with the Good People :worship:

Ryan
Sep 13th, 2008, 08:33 PM
Go Dolphins! :cool: .....well, lets try to win a few games this season, don't set the bar too high I guess.


I kind of want Favre and the Jets to suck this year, just don't think he should be anywhere but Green Bay. Giants and Colts :cool:

hankqq
Sep 15th, 2008, 01:34 AM
:dance: Pats 2-0 so far, and they just beat the Jets/Favre :bounce:

tterb
Sep 15th, 2008, 02:15 AM
Well, after an awful first game against the Bears and a mostly awful game against the Vikings, Peyton started looking half-decent again toward the end of the game today. The rushing defense of the end-of-season 2006 appears to be back, though. :tape: And the running game is non-existent (more the line's fault than Addai's - he rocks). Can't wait for Dallas Clark and Jeff Saturday to get healthy. Go Colts!

Also, glad the Jets lost and Aaron Rodgers had another very good game. I'm done with hearing some Green Bay fans practically WISHING for the Packers to be bad this year just so they could taunt the Packers' management and continue wanking themselves over Brett Farve. :gags:

doni1212
Sep 15th, 2008, 02:38 AM
:fiery: If you weren't a Serena/Venus/Ivanovic fan, I would've bad repped you right about now...


Sorry!!!
:lol: :hug:


I kind of want Favre and the Jets to suck this year, just don't think he should be anywhere but Green Bay. Giants and Colts :cool:

See I want the opposite. The Packers didn't want him so I want Favre to lead the Jets to the playoffs (not the Superbowl b/c we're going there, :p) and the Packers to suck. So far, it's working against me, :(

aussie_fan
Sep 15th, 2008, 09:55 AM
Jets :sad: Guess, it was expected after all the hype

tenn_ace
Sep 15th, 2008, 09:58 AM
Jets lost to a high school quarterback :haha:

will shut up NYC media for a while :rolls:

Martian Martin
Sep 15th, 2008, 05:04 PM
The Broncos match was crazy. Defense sucked as usual but Cutler and Marshall were fantastic. Royal looks a huge talent and his first two games have been a dream, especially makes the two catches at the end.

Credit to Shanahan for making the call to go for the two point conversion. If it went into overtime and the Chargers had the ball, they would have won it.

Credit to the ref too, a quality game from him :tape::lol:

Tonight's game should be a good one. As an aside, how much does Tarvaris Jackson suck? :help:

Also how long before a random person gets picked out of the crowd to play wide reciever for the Seahawks? :o

Wannabeknowitall
Sep 15th, 2008, 06:36 PM
The Broncos match was crazy. Defense sucked as usual but Cutler and Marshall were fantastic. Royal looks a huge talent and his first two games have been a dream, especially makes the two catches at the end.

Credit to Shanahan for making the call to go for the two point conversion. If it went into overtime and the Chargers had the ball, they would have won it.

Credit to the ref too, a quality game from him :tape::lol:

Tonight's game should be a good one. As an aside, how much does Tarvaris Jackson suck? :help:

Also how long before a random person gets picked out of the crowd to play wide reciever for the Seahawks? :o

E-A-G-L-E-S!!! EAGLES!!!

I think you don't like Tavaris Jackson because he's black. :lol:
Sadly he's not the worse quarterback in the NFC central.

The Colts have not looked good at all.
They can blame injuries but it's the second game of the second and the injuries are only going to get worse.

There were some things that happened to Shanahan last year (Green Bay beating them in OT) that likely helped him to make the right decision.

It should be a great game tonite.

The reality is is that if both teams make the playoffs and we play each other everyone knows McNabb will take us back to the promise land while Romo will look like a fluke again.

Denise4925
Sep 15th, 2008, 07:52 PM
I don't even know why people talk about other teams, when there's really only one team worth discussing in the league, and that is the Cowboys. :p

Their offensive front line and backfield look really good so far.

Go Cowboys, beat the Eagles. :bounce:

hankqq
Sep 15th, 2008, 07:58 PM
I don't even know why people talk about other teams, when there's really only one team worth discussing in the league, and that is the Cowboys. :p

Their offensive front line and backfield look really good so far.

Go Cowboys, beat the Eagles. :bounce:

:haha:

*JR*
Sep 15th, 2008, 08:50 PM
Well, after an awful first game against the Bears and a mostly awful game against the Vikings, Peyton started looking half-decent again toward the end of the game today. The rushing defense of the end-of-season 2006 appears to be back, though. :tape: And the running game is non-existent (more the line's fault than Addai's - he rocks). Can't wait for Dallas Clark and Jeff Saturday to get healthy. Go Colts!

Also, glad the Jets lost and Aaron Rodgers had another very good game. I'm done with hearing some Green Bay fans practically WISHING for the Packers to be bad this year just so they could taunt the Packers' management and continue wanking themselves over Brett Farve. :gags:
Rodgers has been hugely impressive, and as the Jets are better with Favre than Pathetic Pennington (getting ppl like him is what Miami hired The Tuna as CEO for?) :confused: both GB and the Jets should be better.

Kudos to Chris Berman and others who predicted that the Pats could win a lot with merely adequate passing, and their running game and defense. Ex-Jet and Raider RB Lamont Jordan was great after Maroney went out injured and Kevin Faulk wasn't getting it done.

---------------------------------------------------------------

In the Colts - Vikes game, I had one of those rare moments where I basically knew what was going to happen in terms of the ending, after the 75 yard hook & lateral pass to the 1 and the agonizing 3 play touchdown that followed. (Why the hell was Peyton trying to go in on a sneak the first 2 plays with a weak left leg?) :rolleyes:

That they'd win on an Adam Vinateri FG @ the end "something to 15". I had no idea whether they'd make the 2 point conversion after their next TD, but knew they'd get one and hold MN scoreless (who knew Longwell would miss a FG after hitting 5, I just knew they were "stuck on 15") setting it up for Vinateri (who blew a 28 yarder enroute to the finish) to do what he has so many times ova the years in NE and Indy.

dybbuk
Sep 15th, 2008, 09:48 PM
Who are you cheering for?

My location says Kansas City. :p

Cat's Pajamas
Sep 16th, 2008, 03:58 AM
Cowboys. :banana:

Great game, and even better to beat the Eagles. :drool: The Cowboys made it hard on themselves with so many dumb mistakes, but the Eagles were hardly perfect either. That last play they attempted. :unsure: :help:

And that pass interference call early on in the game that put the Eagles at the 1 leading to a TD... :weirdo:

Cat's Pajamas
Sep 16th, 2008, 04:00 AM
Oh and when the Eagles player tossed the ball before crossing the plain. :haha:

They still got the TD but what a bonehead mistake. :rolls:

Hurricane Lily
Sep 16th, 2008, 04:09 AM
41-37!!! wow, that was an awesome game! LOL i was going to bed during halftime but glad i didnt! woohooooo! :bounce:
Donovan McNabb.. what a strong guy! :eek: the whole cowboy defense couldnt stop him from running the ball. :lol:

SOA_MC
Sep 16th, 2008, 04:13 AM
Aright!! Eagles fan!!! let's gooo!! :armed:

:ras::ras::ras:

Hurricane Lily
Sep 16th, 2008, 04:20 AM
:ras::ras::ras:
:kiss: beating the cowboys so easily?

Wannabeknowitall
Sep 16th, 2008, 04:24 AM
I don't even know why people talk about other teams, when there's really only one team worth discussing in the league, and that is the Cowboys. :p

Their offensive front line and backfield look really good so far.
:bounce:

Nothing like rooting on a team that has as many felons as the Cincy Bengals right? :lol:
My team's quarterback at least waits until the Super Bowl to choke.
When was the last time yall won a playoff game. :)

Better luck this year. :wavey:

doni1212
Sep 16th, 2008, 04:39 AM
My location says Kansas City. :p

Oh, didn't look over there, lol.

BTW fellow football fans....The Steelers are 2-0 now and are set to play those Eagles who lost tonight, ;)

Cat's Pajamas
Sep 16th, 2008, 04:40 AM
Nothing like rooting on a team that has as many felons as the Cincy Bengals right? :lol:
My team's quarterback at least waits until the Super Bowl to choke.
When was the last time yall won a playoff game. :)

Better luck this year. :wavey:

Ouch. Sounds likes someone is bitter. :p

And GTFO about the Cowboys being criminals. :o Coming from a Philly fan! :tape: The fans known to have thrown snowballs with batteries stuffed in at the opposing team's bench. :o

Wannabeknowitall
Sep 16th, 2008, 05:17 AM
Ouch. Sounds likes someone is bitter. :p

And GTFO about the Cowboys being criminals. :o Coming from a Philly fan! :tape: The fans known to have thrown snowballs with batteries stuffed in at the opposing team's bench. :o

That was taken the wrong way. We threw the batteries because we thought that Eagles needed a charge, some extra energy. :lol:

Seriously what am i bitter about.
The Eagles who didn't have their two biggest WR lost by less than a touchdown to the Cowboys in Dallas while scoring over 30 points against the Dallas defense.

Btw, did you hear what Andy Reid said to Wade Phillips when they shook hands?

"Good game. BTW, I ate you wife's pussy last night, ummp ummh good."

And then McNabb's mother showed up and said, that pussy taste like Campbell's Chunky Soup.
:tape: :haha:

kiwifan
Sep 16th, 2008, 06:16 AM
Ouch. Sounds likes someone is bitter. :p

And GTFO about the Cowboys being criminals. :o Coming from a Philly fan! :tape: The fans known to have thrown snowballs with batteries stuffed in at the opposing team's bench. :o

Don't they have an actual jail in the basement of the stadium for Philly Suckas (fans)? :devil:

I'm relieved that Romo pulled what I hope will be his major bonehead play of the season today, fumble / touchdown; pretty sad. I can live with a bad interception a game as long as he's trying to "make things happen" :angel:

Our defense just loves grabbing facemasks don't they? :rolleyes:

The Eagles are looking like the real deal again. :scared: so I hope we don't meet until the NFC Championship Game, if we both make the playoffs. :scared:

Thankfully Dallas now has guys who can make plays all over the Offense. That Defense can get after a QB but seriously when all you need to do is find Westbrook on every play and you can't, perhaps our Defense needs additional leadership.

Final note: I love how they kept showing Jerry Jones in dark shadows like a sinister figure. :haha:

jack daniels
Sep 16th, 2008, 06:44 AM
Giants are easily the best team in the NFL East and the Monday night game between the Cowboys and Eagles highlighted that. Both those teams' secondary divisions are TERRIBLE!!!

aussie_fan
Sep 16th, 2008, 08:44 AM
Good game today, some good plays and some bad plays. Both the fumble touchdown and then early celebration TD were :haha:

*JR*
Sep 16th, 2008, 08:50 PM
Don't they have an actual jail in the basement of the stadium for Philly Suckas (fans)? :devil:

Don't think so, but there's a mini-court with a prosecutor, judge (and I guess public defender and bail bondsman) somewhere under the stands @ every home game; in other words unruly fans can get booked and processed right there in The Linc (Lincoln Financial Field) and depending on the circumstances taken to jail (but more likely get a court date to appear). Most just boo, especially their own team.

Re. the game itself, McNabb muffed 2 separate handoffs to Brian Westbrook (one resulting in a turnova) or the Eagles might have won. Nice 2C him healthy and passing well, but botched handoffs by a guy now in his 10th season are a headscratcher. :shrug:

Nice that on Sunday night ESPN is sort of recreating NFL Primetime with Boomer and TJ under the Sports Center "brand". :yeah: (Bob Costas on NBC sucks doing football recaps, and Cris Collinsworth isn't enough to bail him out).

Wannabeknowitall
Sep 16th, 2008, 09:08 PM
Don't think so, but there's a mini-court with a prosecutor, judge (and I guess public defender and bail bondsman) somewhere under the stands @ every home game; in other words unruly fans can get booked and processed right there in The Linc (Lincoln Financial Field) and depending on the circumstances taken to jail (but more likely get a court date to appear). Most just boo, especially their own team.



Rub it in, why don't you. :lol:

I like that you did that though because the fact of the matter is I'm not defending white trash. :lol:
You'll see me do a lot of things but that's not something I will do.
The majority of the people who go to that court are white.

Black people in philly can't afford the tickets at The Linc generally.
We're hoping the Phillies make the playoff so people like me can afford those tickets to see them.
The playoff tickets for the Phillies cost less than the Eagles home game tickets.

I have to do some research but they might even be less than the Eagles exhibition game tickets.

In fact I get my money's worth with the 125 dollar tickets I paid for at the US Open than at the Linc.
And the drinks are a lot better at the US Open too. :lol:

brickhousesupporter
Sep 16th, 2008, 09:20 PM
Good game today, some good plays and some bad plays. Both the fumble touchdown and then early celebration TD were :haha:

Are you in Australia?........If so do they broadcast a lot of games on Australian tv and is American football big in Australia?

Denise4925
Sep 16th, 2008, 10:12 PM
Don't they have an actual jail in the basement of the stadium for Philly Suckas (fans)? :devil:

I'm relieved that Romo pulled what I hope will be his major bonehead play of the season today, fumble / touchdown; pretty sad. I can live with a bad interception a game as long as he's trying to "make things happen" :angel:

Our defense just loves grabbing facemasks don't they? :rolleyes:

The Eagles are looking like the real deal again. :scared: so I hope we don't meet until the NFC Championship Game, if we both make the playoffs. :scared:

Thankfully Dallas now has guys who can make plays all over the Offense. That Defense can get after a QB but seriously when all you need to do is find Westbrook on every play and you can't, perhaps our Defense needs additional leadership.

Final note: I love how they kept showing Jerry Jones in dark shadows like a sinister figure. :haha:

:lol: I agree with everything you say, but a win is a win. :woohoo: :woohoo:

Wannabeknowitall
Sep 16th, 2008, 10:29 PM
:lol: I agree with everything you say, but a win is a win. :woohoo: :woohoo:

Now show everyone you can do it in the playoffs? :lol:

The Patriots and Giants Super Bowl showed us it's not how many wins you have (although that helps you to make the playoffs and get home field) but what you win at the end of it all.

You make the playoffs and anything is game.

SOA_MC
Sep 16th, 2008, 11:26 PM
Are you in Australia?........If so do they broadcast a lot of games on Australian tv and is American football big in Australia?

I'm from Australia we get 3/4 live games a week on Pay TV 1 or 2 Sunday day games the Sunday night game and Monday night game. It's not that popular here I mean we don't talk about it at the office or schools or whatever. But it does have a small fan base probably similar to what the EPL has in America. The time zones is a good thing the day games start at 3am here and the night games at 10am when there's no local live sport being played here

aussie_fan
Sep 17th, 2008, 02:30 AM
I'm from Australia we get 3/4 live games a week on Pay TV 1 or 2 Sunday day games the Sunday night game and Monday night game. It's not that popular here I mean we don't talk about it at the office or schools or whatever. But it does have a small fan base probably similar to what the EPL has in America. The time zones is a good thing the day games start at 3am here and the night games at 10am when there's no local live sport being played here

It's on free-to-air tv now on ten hd as well, 3 games a week. It's awesome, i've liked nfl but found it hard to follow without pay tv, watching the games in hd has been great.

Jets on MNF next week :bounce:

kiwifan
Sep 19th, 2008, 08:10 AM
I am officially beginning to fear that Sunday's game against Green Bay will be a trap game for The Boys, coming off the high of beating the Flea-gulls...

...hope I'm wrong, since Dallas in better than Green Bay in every way; still Dallas might get caught smiling in their rear view mirror instead of focusing in a short week on the Favre-less Pack...

...I read somewhere The Boys have never won at Lambeau Field? :scared:

kiwifan
Sep 23rd, 2008, 01:19 AM
How Bout Them Cowboys!!! :dance:

They passed like crap for the most part (bad throws, dropped passes) but the running game is looking like the good ole days when you knew what was coming but you just couldn't stop it. :devil:

doni1212
Sep 23rd, 2008, 01:40 AM
Steelers lost, :sobbing:
And Big Ben sucked!! Fucking Eagles! But good job to them...:p

kiwifan
Sep 23rd, 2008, 04:43 AM
Steelers lost, :sobbing:
And Big Ben sucked!! Fucking Eagles! But good job to them...:p

The Steelers loss actually made me feel better about the Cowboys' Offensive Line. :angel:

It looked like Big Ben was a victim of gang violence. :tape: :lol: :tape:

hankqq
Sep 23rd, 2008, 05:29 AM
Go ahead everyone make fun of the Patriots :bounce: :sobbing: I think I'm going to pretend that match against Miami never happened :ignore:

how about Indianapolis? :haha:

Denise4925
Sep 23rd, 2008, 11:40 PM
How Bout Them Cowboys!!! :dance:

They passed like crap for the most part (bad throws, dropped passes) but the running game is looking like the good ole days when you knew what was coming but you just couldn't stop it. :devil:

:dance:

doni1212
Sep 24th, 2008, 02:25 AM
The Steelers loss actually made me feel better about the Cowboys' Offensive Line. :angel:

It looked like Big Ben was a victim of gang violence. :tape: :lol: :tape:

:rolls:

doni1212
Sep 24th, 2008, 02:26 AM
The Steelers loss actually made me feel better about the Cowboys' Offensive Line. :angel:

It looked like Big Ben was a victim of gang violence. :tape: :lol: :tape:

:rolls:

kiwifan
Sep 24th, 2008, 04:50 AM
Hey everyone:

I had a chat with Marcus - the Greatest Raider Ever - Allen today, he's very very cool (we live in the same "hood"). I asked his opinion about Marion Barber (actually I told him Marion was taking over as the modern version of Marcus - the Greatest Raider Ever - Allen in the "Red Zone").

He actually agreed but like everyone including myself, he's worried how long Barber can last with his running style, Marcus actually compared him to Earl Campbell - including the dangerous after effects of playing like "The Tyler Rose" did.

Gotta love Hollywood!!! :cool:

*JR*
Sep 24th, 2008, 06:26 PM
Hey everyone:

I had a chat with Marcus - the Greatest Raider Ever - Allen today, he's very very cool (we live in the same "hood"). I asked his opinion about Marion Barber (actually I told him Marion was taking over as the modern version of Marcus - the Greatest Raider Ever - Allen in the "Red Zone").

He actually agreed but like everyone including myself, he's worried how long Barber can last with his running style, Marcus actually compared him to Earl Campbell - including the dangerous after effects of playing like "The Tyler Rose" did.

Gotta love Hollywood!!! :cool:
So does Marcus think his pal OJ will be convicted this time? :devil:

A note on Big Ben: he was born here, but his parents are Suisse emigrees. I wonder if he @ least follows Rogi's tennis career, and did Marti's. (The Cuckoo Clock isn't newsworthy enough ova here).

*JR*
Sep 30th, 2008, 02:27 AM
Cowpolks lose and some ppl here get awful quiet. :tape: (Not TO, even though he had 7 catches inc. for a TD and a lot of other balls thrown his way, and he was bitching after the game that he didn't get the ball enough. He'll turn on Romo soon enough like he did on McNabb). :shrug:

How 'bout the great Brett Favre tying legendary Joe Namath's Jets record after about 4 decades with 6 TD passes in one game? :worship:

With Eagles running game largely absent, Bears took target practice on Donovan in home win.

Gutsy performance by Bucs' kicker Matt Bryant day after his 3 month old son's funeral, kicking FG that put them ahead to stay.

Bills and Titans quietly tied for league best 4-0 record, Giants (bye week) now only undefeated NFC team @ 3-0.

kiwifan
Sep 30th, 2008, 02:54 AM
I stopped posting because no one was responding.

A Dallas loss to the Deadskins is no big deal.

I believe every year the Cowboys won the Superbowl they lost at least once to the Deadskins.

Not worried about T.O., we know how to handle him. I'm more worried about F.J., that's who they need to make sure gets more of the game plan. ;)

Cheers - :yawn:

doni1212
Sep 30th, 2008, 03:23 AM
And us Steelers look like we just might squeak this one out against Baltimore. Not that we deserve it after the first 3 quarters, :rolleyes:
Our offense is sucking!

Black Mamba.
Sep 30th, 2008, 03:29 AM
Doctors: Collier paralyzed below waist, one leg had to be amputated

Associated Press

Updated: September 29, 2008, 7:22 PM ET


Jags OT Collier Paralyzed From Waist Down; Has Leg Amputated

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Jacksonville Jaguars offensive tackle Richard Collier, shot while sitting in a car outside an apartment complex earlier this month, is paralyzed below the waist and his left leg was amputated, his doctor said Monday.

Collier was on a ventilator for about three weeks and has no memory of the shooting, said Dr. Andy Kerwin, a surgeon for the University of Florida at Shands Jacksonville hospital.

"His overall condition has improved greatly," Kerwin said. "We expect him to be discharged soon."

Kerwin said Collier suffered 14 bullet wounds to the back, left groin, left legs and right buttock. In addition, a bullet severed his spinal cord, causing the paralysis. The amputation was the result of damage to his left leg and groin, where blood clots formed. Five bullets alone were removed from his urinary bladder and the 26-year-old player also had bouts of pneumonia, infections and renal failure.

Richard Collier

Collier

Still, his condition has been upgraded to good from critical.

Collier will undergo physical therapy to learn how to move from his bed to a wheelchair. He will never walk again, the doctor said.

Collier's agent Jeff Jankovich said the player's family wanted to make sure Collier understood what had happened to him before releasing details to the public. He said they even kept the Jaguars in the dark.

"He has extreme grief for a lifetime of dreams he won't be able to fulfill," the agent said.

Jankovich refused to say specifically when Collier would be released, citing security concerns.

Collier and former teammate Kenneth Pettway were waiting for two women outside an apartment complex early Sept. 2 when a gunman fired into the vehicle, according to the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office. Pettway was not injured.

The motive behind the attack on Collier is unknown, but investigators said earlier he appeared to be targeted. Police have made no arrests in the shooting.

Jaguars coach Jack Del Rio and several players attended the news conference.

"It's a tragedy this young man was caught up in this violence," Del Rio said. "It's a great tragedy for a young man who had such a promising future."

Offensive tackle Tony Pashos said the attack on Collier has been difficult for his teammates. "I think about him a lot," he said.

Collier was in his third year with the NFL after graduating from Valdosta State.

He was the third NFL player shot in the past 18 months. Washington Redskins star Sean Taylor was fatally shot during what police said was a botched burglary attempt at his Miami-area home in November. Broncos cornerback Darrent Williams was killed when his rented limousine was sprayed with bullets minutes after leaving a New Year's party at a club in 2007.

Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press

kiwifan
Sep 30th, 2008, 07:14 AM
And us Steelers look like we just might squeak this one out against Baltimore. Not that we deserve it after the first 3 quarters, :rolleyes:
Our offense is sucking!

I hate the Steelers for traditional reasons (after all I'm a Cowboy fan) but I really liked the last coach (as a person/personality) a lot especially after the losing Super Bowl effort against the Boys, I thought he out coached us and was unlucky (Neil O'Donnell ints to Larry Brown unlucky).

Well it is even worse with this new coach because I actually went to school with him, we even ate lunch at the same table a few times (he was just a freshman/sophomore so it wasn't like I was even talking to him :tape: :lol: :tape: ). So tonight I kept going back and forth enjoying the "Ray Ray Ravens" beating on the Steelers but then they would show Tomlin's face and I'd remember that I'm supposed to be rooting for my "homeboy". :lol: (also Hines Ward is my favorite non-Cowboy - he's like a quiet Michael Irvin - another player who liked delivering a nasty block).

So it was a happy ending. :angel:

Steelers need to fix that O-Line or they're not going far. :scared:

doni1212
Sep 30th, 2008, 02:44 PM
I hate the Steelers for traditional reasons (after all I'm a Cowboy fan) but I really liked the last coach (as a person/personality) a lot especially after the losing Super Bowl effort against the Boys, I thought he out coached us and was unlucky (Neil O'Donnell ints to Larry Brown unlucky).

Well it is even worse with this new coach because I actually went to school with him, we even ate lunch at the same table a few times (he was just a freshman/sophomore so it wasn't like I was even talking to him :tape: :lol: :tape: ). So tonight I kept going back and forth enjoying the "Ray Ray Ravens" beating on the Steelers but then they would show Tomlin's face and I'd remember that I'm supposed to be rooting for my "homeboy". :lol: (also Hines Ward is my favorite non-Cowboy - he's like a quiet Michael Irvin - another player who liked delivering a nasty block).

So it was a happy ending. :angel:

Steelers need to fix that O-Line or they're not going far. :scared:

:lol:
You are so funny. That's cool that you knew Tomin! Maybe you should've talked to the lowly freshman, haha.
But yeah Hines Ward is awesome and I couldn't keep my eyes off of Ray Lewis last night btw, :drool:
And our offense line sucks!! It's killing me these last 2 games. The Eagles and the Ravens were blitzing successfully and sacking like crazy!! :mad:

*JR*
Oct 2nd, 2008, 12:08 AM
:lol:
You are so funny. That's cool that you knew Tomlin! Maybe you should've talked to the lowly freshman, haha.
But yeah Hines Ward is awesome and I couldn't keep my eyes off of Ray Lewis last night btw, :drool:
And our offense line sucks!! It's killing me these last 2 games. The Eagles and the Ravens were blitzing successfully and sacking like crazy!! :mad:
In the loss to the Eagles, Byron Leftwich played well in relief of Big Ben (who could run better B4 he fucked himself up in the motorcycle accident a few months after the Super Bowl win, as evidenced then by "The Tackle" after The Bus made a fumble near the Colts goal line that almost cost them the whole playoff run).

Byron showed a lot of promise in J'ville too, so maybe Dan Rooney should think about a blockbuster deal after the season, like when the Cowpokes traded Herschel Walker to the Vikings around 1990 and put some unknown named Emmitt Smith in his place.

Speaking of the Jags, ya gotta love the QB who took away Byron's job, David Garrard. Looking @ him you'd think he was just some guy with a beer belly, but he can run as well as throw. And he plays with more sheer joy than just about anyone else in the league. :yeah:

(That would be the opposite of the surly TO, who never had a QB he didn't eventually hate). :lol:

doni1212
Oct 2nd, 2008, 02:32 AM
In the loss to the Eagles, Byron Leftwich played well in relief of Big Ben (who could run better B4 he fucked himself up in the motorcycle accident a few months after the Super Bowl win, as evidenced then by "The Tackle" after The Bus made a fumble near the Colts goal line that almost cost them the whole playoff run).

Byron showed a lot of promise in J'ville too, so maybe Dan Rooney should think about a blockbuster deal after the season, like when the Cowpokes traded Herschel Walker to the Vikings around 1990 and put some unknown named Emmitt Smith in his place.

Speaking of the Jags, ya gotta love the QB who took away Byron's job, David Garrard. Looking @ him you'd think he was just some guy with a beer belly, but he can run as well as throw. And he plays with more sheer joy than just about anyone else in the league. :yeah:

(That would be the opposite of the surly TO, who never had a QB he didn't eventually hate). :lol:

1. Yeah, Byron was playing much better than Ben and he was only in for like one series.
2. Yeah, that motorcycle definitely fucked him up. Oh, and that fumble by Bettis was CRAZY in real-time. Everyone here in Pittsburgh, thought that we lost that b/c of 36.
3. So Garrard beat us twice last year in really important games. The first was important b/c we needed to get into the playoffs and the 2nd was important b/c it was the playoffs. We want REVENGE!!!
*We're playing them Sunday night in Jacksonville and I just hope the Jags aren't the same Jags as last year.*

*JR*
Oct 2nd, 2008, 05:36 PM
1. Yeah, Byron was playing much better than Ben and he was only in for like one series.
2. Yeah, that motorcycle definitely fucked him up.
Big Ben does get coddled there. After the motorcycle crash (without a helmet of course) his then backup Charlie Batch, who'd been a good starting QB in Detroit was playing much better, but the 2nd generation Suissie came back for training camp and played most of the year. (Never mind his emergency appendix removal too).

I wonder if he's still involved with Kourniklone (LPGA golfer Natalie Gilbis). As Romo could tell him, a high profile gf can be bad news for a QB. (Wait, Tony hasn't even won a fucking playoff game yet). :lol:

doni1212
Oct 6th, 2008, 02:47 AM
:scared:

doni1212
Oct 6th, 2008, 03:29 AM
We did it!! In the last 2 minutes!! And they couldn't match us! 26-21 final score.
4-1 Baby!!!

kiwifan
Oct 6th, 2008, 04:40 AM
I believe every year the Cowboys won the Superbowl they lost at least once to the Deadskins.

Not worried about T.O., we know how to handle him. I'm more worried about F.J., that's who they need to make sure gets more of the game plan. ;)



F.J. (Felix Jones) got to touch the ball this week and look what happened. :devil:

The Cowboys won and T.O. found G-d. :banana: :bounce::bounce::bounce:

Denise4925
Oct 6th, 2008, 09:08 PM
I'm so mad at myself for forgetting to watch the Cowboys yesterday. I don't know why I thought they had a bye this week.

Anyway, :woohoo: about the win. :D

Wannabeknowitall
Oct 6th, 2008, 09:08 PM
So another lost by the Eagles can be blamed on the franchise player LJ Smith for not being in the right position in the red zone for two straight games.

So yes he has face, body, and ass, but who cares when he can't block for shit, can't catch for shit, and can't defend for shit.
Chris Cooley who has played in the West Coast offense for 5 regular season games had LJ Smith who has been playing under the system for 4 years, look like a fucking idiot.

Now I can understand if it was Witten of the Cowboys who is the best all around tight end I have ever set my eyes on and should get the ball MORE THAN that pussy TO every game.
It's Chris Cooley who half the time doesn't even know where he is on the field.
Who thought that Redskins short shorts was appropriate attire to practice in last summer (from the pictures Portis seemed to agree though :tape:).

If Jeremy Shockey was still with the Giants, Chris Cooley would probably be the 3rd best tight end in the NFC East which is not saying much.

If the Eagles would have done more against Chris Cooley then Portis runs wouldn't have even mattered.

Wannabeknowitall
Oct 6th, 2008, 09:10 PM
I'm so mad at myself for forgetting to watch the Cowboys yesterday. I don't know why I thought they had a bye this week.

Anyway, :woohoo: about the win. :D

Playing the Bengals is a bye week. :tape:

doni1212
Oct 7th, 2008, 02:09 AM
Playing the Bengals is a bye week. :tape:

:rolls: :haha:
We play them next, after our bye week, :lol:

*JR*
Oct 10th, 2008, 12:47 AM
(He makes T.O. look like a choir boy) :devil:

Cowboys won't discipline 'Pacman' for scuffle

By STEPHEN HAWKINS, AP Sports Writer 54 minutes ago

IRVING, Texas - Troubled cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones won't be disciplined by the Dallas Cowboys for a scuffle with his bodyguard that team owner Jerry Jones said resulted from joking banter that got out of hand and was quickly settled.

"They were literally kidding each other," Jerry Jones said Thursday. "They were jiving around ... and all of a sudden one of them starting saying some things, and here you go."

Dallas police were called to an upscale downtown hotel because of the disturbance late Tuesday night. No charges were filed.

While not planning any discipline for Adam Jones, Jerry Jones acknowledged that he was "very disappointed in that we're having to deal with this."

It remained unclear if the NFL planned any discipline.

Adam Jones was fully reinstated by commissioner Roger Goodell just before the season opener after being suspended for 17 months and missing the entire 2007 season because of numerous off-field problems. He has started all five games with the Cowboys.

Goodell said in a radio interview Thursday that the league was investigating the matter. He said he didn't speak with Adam Jones individually during a previously scheduled meeting with the entire Cowboys team following their practice Wednesday.

"I'm disappointed that we're even discussing this at this point in time," Goodell said on ESPN Radio. "But we'll have to wait for the facts."

Jerry Jones said he already had all the facts, but that the NFL as part of its own investigation was talking to Adam Jones and Tommy Jones, the bodyguard who is part of a security detail provided by the team to be with the player at all times.

"With the availability of the information that I have right now, we don't have club discipline in mind here," Jerry Jones said.

Adam Jones was arrested six times and involved in 12 incidents requiring police intervention :tape: from the time the Tennessee Titans drafted him in the first round in 2005 and sent him to Dallas in April to complete a long-discussed trade.

"Before he joined the Cowboys, he built up a reservoir of doubt," Jerry Jones said. "He had created with his actions no benefit of the doubt."

Because of that, Jerry Jones knew when Adam Jones came to Dallas that something "could possibly happen." The owner never anticipated a scuffle with one of his own security people.

"I did not dream that we would get in a situation where we had all the structure in place and literally have an incident that casts lightly with him publicly or with the league that would involve the very people that you're doing the structure with," Jerry Jones said.

Jerry Jones said the incident took part at a hotel where the player was attending a private party. There was alcohol served at the party, but Jones was told that the player's "conduct should not be interpreted as over drinking."

The owner called the incident an "aberration."

Coach Wade Phillips said Jones would play Sunday against the Arizona Cardinals. The coach talked to his players about the incident before they practiced Thursday.

"What I'm trying to do is get this team to focus on this game and the team that we are playing," Phillips said. "We're moving on in that direction."

Adam Jones wasn't in the locker room Thursday when it was open to reporters.

Nose tackle Tank Johnson, who brought his own checkered past to Dallas, said the incident was overblown and that it wouldn't distract the team.

"This is not that big of a deal," Johnson said. "Nobody's in jail, nobody's in trouble, nobody's hurt. We're all here ready to practice, ready to work."

An empty locker separates the cubicles of Jones and Johnson, who missed the first eight games last season while serving an NFL suspension for a series of off-field problems. Johnson doesn't think Goodell will take any punitive action against the cornerback.

Dallas police said officers responded to a disturbance about 11 p.m. Tuesday. Officers said the incident was over by the time they arrived and that some hotel employees reported overhearing a scuffle in the men's restroom in the lobby.

Jones and his bodyguard said everything was OK, and both were driven from the hotel by an acquaintance, police said. The bodyguard told police he didn't want to press charges.

Tennessee got a fourth-round pick in the April draft, and a sixth-rounder next year for Jones. The Cowboys could get back a fifth-rounder in 2009 if Jones is punished again.

"That doesn't affect us," Titans coach Jeff Fisher said Thursday. "We've moved on and that's their issue."

Jones was among the Titans' best defensive players for two years until Goodell suspended him before the 2007 season. The Titans distanced themselves from Jones and eventually traded him.

The highest-profile incident involving Jones was a shooting at a Las Vegas strip club that left one club employee paralyzed. Jones denied involvement in the shooting.

Jones has started two games in place of injured Pro Bowl cornerback Terence Newman, and the others when the team opened games with five defensive backs. Jones has 22 tackles with no interceptions.

Newman missed all the preseason and the season opener with groin injury, then returned for three games before missing Sunday against Cincinnati because of an abdominal strain. Newman is expected to miss Sunday's game at Arizona, and could miss more depending on the severity of the injury.

Pro Bowl safety Roy Williams, who missed the last three games with a fractured right forearm, was back at practice Wednesday but is not expected to play this week.

Wannabeknowitall
Oct 13th, 2008, 04:32 PM
A Dallas loss to the Deadskins is no big deal.



No but losing to the Cardinals and losing Tony Romo for 4 weeks is a big deal.

kiwifan
Oct 13th, 2008, 07:16 PM
No but losing to the Cardinals and losing Tony Romo for 4 weeks is a big deal.

:bounce: Wildcard, motherf**ker, Wildcard!!! :bounce:




:dance: :nerner: :dance:

Wannabeknowitall
Oct 14th, 2008, 05:09 PM
:bounce: Wildcard, motherf**ker, Wildcard!!! :bounce:




:dance: :nerner: :dance:

Is that so?

Right now if the playoffs started today, it would be the Redskins and Panthers who would get the wildcards.

The Cowboys could potentially lose 2 of the 3 games that Romo is out.

It's really not lookng good.

Wannabeknowitall
Oct 14th, 2008, 09:00 PM
The Cowboys have more ups and downs than the stock market right now.

Tony Romo is out for a month. Stock Down.
Feliz Jones is out for 2-4 weeks. Stock Down.
Adam "Pacman" Jones is suspended for four games, minimum. Stock Down.

Cowboys acquire Roy Williams. Stock Up.

kiwifan
Oct 15th, 2008, 03:37 AM
I think we can roll without Romo for a few weeks. He wasn't playing that great anyway (although I think the O Line was more of the problem than Romo's carelessness with the football). :)

Felix Jones injury just flat out sucks; he's good for a cheap 7 points a game and we really need cheap points the next few weeks. :(

Pacman, doesn't matter, if he's there fine - if not we have a first round draft pick (Jenkins) who is ready to play and a midlevel pick who might even be better than the first round guy (Scandrick). Where we are hurt is when a team goes "4 wide" against us like Green Bay would. :)

Roy Williams addition is obviously wonderful. In theory with T.O. getting doubled constantly and Witten taking up the middle of the field even our scrubs should have been running free but they weren't; Roy Williams will. He might not make as much of a difference with weak armed Brad Johnson behind center (I hope I'm wrong) but when Romo's back Da Boys will be Back in Business!!! :cool:

And thanks to the Browns, the Division is still within reach. :yippee:

doni1212
Oct 16th, 2008, 03:40 AM
Yeah, I was in SHOCK that the Browns beat the Giants. Now they are back in contention in our division, not that it matters since they won't win it, :p

kiwifan
Oct 19th, 2008, 08:24 PM
Wade Phillips needs fired!!! :)

Only DeMarcus Ware is amaze!!!:p

Let Romo sit out until the rest of the team starts playing like professionals...

...that could be next season. :tape:

*JR*
Oct 19th, 2008, 09:06 PM
Indeed the Cowboys should probably "take a pass" this year given all the injuries, and being in a tough division. (Brad Johnson is a shadow of the QB he was with Washington a few years ago, they're missing their speed back, etc. etc.) The only thing is that a TO who's getting a little on the old side for a marquee WR isn't gonna be happy if the team acknowledges that there are too many missing pieces 2B a serious contender this year. And if he's bitching, you've got a toxic atmosphere.

doni1212
Oct 19th, 2008, 09:09 PM
We are 5-1!!! :banana: :banana: :banana:
Giants are NEXT, :armed:

kiwifan
Oct 20th, 2008, 01:00 AM
Indeed the Cowboys should probably "take a pass" this year given all the injuries, and being in a tough division. (Brad Johnson is a shadow of the QB he was with Washington a few years ago, they're missing their speed back, etc. etc.) The only thing is that a TO who's getting a little on the old side for a marquee WR isn't gonna be happy if the team acknowledges that there are too many missing pieces 2B a serious contender this year. And if he's bitching, you've got a toxic atmosphere.

We know how to handle TO, unlike those other weak ass franchises he worked with. :nerner:

He can bitch all he wants, it is just hot air - until your organization is dumb enough to make more of it. :devil:

Let the media declare that it is World War III, while we just smile and keep on, keeping on. Behind the scenes all we have to say to TO is that "Michael Irvin was double teamed too, didn't stop him". :lol: :p

I still haven't ruled out the Wild Card, there isn't a team in the league that would beat us playing our best football. :armed:

*JR*
Oct 24th, 2008, 05:14 PM
http://sportsmediablog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/10/cowboys-are-soft-and-the-defen.html

Cowboys are soft and the defense is playing the wrong schemes!
5:27 PM Thu, Oct 23, 2008

Who says? How about Phil Simms and Bill Cowher. They said it last night on Showtime's Inside the NFL.

First Simms: "When I watch the Cowboys its like a boxing match. They want to go out there and win a decision by dancing around. Sooner or later you got to punch somebody in the mouth. They don't punch anybody in the mouth. The first thing I notice about all their games is they are never the aggressor physically and you can't win in the NFL unless you are."


Now Cowher: "You have to cater your defense to what you have personnel-wise. They have coverage issues. In my mind what they have to do is get some way to create pressure. I know Ware is a good rusher. But at the same time they got to get there quicker.

They've got to be more disruptive with their front. I look at this team right now and they are trying to play the same way they did when they had everybody healthy. They don't have everybody healthy. Right now you've got to cater that defense to what you have and they aren't doing that."

Wannabeknowitall
Oct 24th, 2008, 05:33 PM
We know how to handle TO, unlike those other weak ass franchises he worked with. :nerner:

He can bitch all he wants, it is just hot air - until your organization is dumb enough to make more of it. :devil:

Let the media declare that it is World War III, while we just smile and keep on, keeping on. Behind the scenes all we have to say to TO is that "Michael Irvin was double teamed too, didn't stop him". :lol: :p

I still haven't ruled out the Wild Card, there isn't a team in the league that would beat us playing our best football. :armed:

Those "weak" franchises have won a playoff games in the last decade.

The funny thing is that Garcia who TO claims is a ******, has found a way to stop sucking dicks for a minute to win and be a leader of Tampa Bay, something TO clearly can't get himself to do for his team.
Considering TO has to moan and groan instead of shutting up once in a while and playing like he really wants to win, whose the real ****** here? :lol:


And that last claim is hilarious. Have you been taking interview classes from Venus? :lol:

kiwifan
Oct 24th, 2008, 10:54 PM
Those "weak" franchises have won a playoff games in the last decade.

The funny thing is that Garcia who TO claims is a ******, has found a way to stop sucking dicks for a minute to win and be a leader of Tampa Bay, something TO clearly can't get himself to do for his team.
Considering TO has to moan and groan instead of shutting up once in a while and playing like he really wants to win, whose the real ****** here? :lol:


And that last claim is hilarious. Have you been taking interview classes from Venus? :lol:

We talk "Rings" in Texas not "Playoff Wins". So by Cowboy standards Philly hasn't done anything in the entire Super Bowl era. :p

TO didn't call Garcia a fag, all TO said was "if it walks like a duck" (I believe he was trying to be funny not trying to "out" anyone); but after TO said that Garcia went and got himself a Playboy Playmate wife - so more power to him. There used to be gay rumors about Troy Aikmann; I never cared as long as he won the game that's all that matters.

And as to my last claim, damn right - that's why I love Venus - when everyone was trying to throw dirt on her "tennis grave" she was still telling everyone she was either the best or one of the favorites to win every tournament she enters - a couple of Wimbledon's later, to quote Ziggy Marley, "Look Who's Dancing Now". :dance:

In closing, I would like to make this long distance dedication to Wannabe, Jeff Garcia and the Dallas Cowboys Offensive Line and Defensive Backfield:


Just what makes that little old ant
Think he'll move that rubber tree plant
Anyone knows an ant, can't
Move a rubber tree plant

But hes got high hopes, hes got high hopes :angel:
Hes got high apple pie, in the sky hopes :lol:

So any time your gettin' low
stead of lettin' go
Just remember that ant
Oops there goes another rubber tree
Oops there goes another rubber tree
Oops there goes another rubber tree plant

:nerner:

kiwifan
Oct 26th, 2008, 09:16 PM
I still got high hopes, Yes I've got high hopes :angel:
I still got high apple pie, in the sky hopes :lol:

:nerner:

kiwifan
Oct 26th, 2008, 09:20 PM
Wade Phillips needs fired!!! :)

Only DeMarcus Ware is amaze!!!:p

Let Romo sit out until the rest of the team starts playing like professionals...

...that could be next season. :tape:

OK, Wade Phillips needs demotion to Defensive Coordinator. :)

The entire injured, playing on fumes Defense is amaze!!! :p

Brad Johnson sucks, and probably needs fired or retired soon. :tape:

doni1212
Oct 27th, 2008, 01:12 AM
I don't even want to talk about our collapse to the Giants in the 4th quarter, :o. There is NO DOUBT that we should've won that game, :fiery: :fiery: :fiery:
I mean our replace snapper, snapped the ball into the end zone on a punt kickoff which resulted in a SAFETY!!!

hankqq
Oct 27th, 2008, 01:24 AM
doni :hug: :hug: :awww: I was cheering for you guys too :sad:

I'm happy the Pats won though :D

*JR*
Nov 6th, 2008, 02:47 PM
T.O.: 'I can't throw and catch the ball myself' :devil:
4:13 PM Wed, Nov 05, 2008 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
Tim MacMahon

T.O. said all the right things during Brad Johnson's butt-ugly stint as the Cowboys starting quarterback. However, now that Tony Romo is back, T.O. subtly pointed the finger at the backup quarterbacks for his sorry three-game stretch (12 catches, 100 yards, TD).

"I can be frustrated but if I go out and talk about being frustrated, then it's another story," T.O. said. "For me, I just try to keep it in check and make the most of my opportunities. That's the only thing I can do. From here on out, all I can do is just run my routes and put what I do on film. If I'm open and I don't get the ball, then I don't get the ball. There's nothing really I can do. I can't throw and catch the ball myself. I can only just do what I can control."


Needless to say, T.O. was happy to welcome back Romo, even though T.O.'s struggles started when Romo was healthy.

"I don't think it's a matter of him coming in and trying to be Superman and really saving this team," T.O. said. "Tony's job is obviously very important at the quarterback position. I think he's had time to kind of assess games he hasn't played in. For him, it's just to come out and put the ball in playmakers' hands and let those guys make the plays.

"I don't think he has to come out and do anything extra special coming back from that type of injury. We have more than enough capable guys in the locker room to make plays for him. Of course he's a key element to our success but not to come in and do anything out of the ordinary. Go through his reads, assess the defense, put the ball in the playmakers' hands and let us do the rest."

*JR*
Nov 24th, 2008, 03:59 PM
Donovan benched not for injury for first time in his career in rout by the resurgent Ravens. (@ halftime, after going 8-18 for 59 yards and 2 picks)

The backup guy wasn't that great, but probably had few reps with main squad this week. I think if they indeed miss the playoffs, Andy Reid may well be finished in Philly. (This is his 10th year, same as McNabb's.)

Cowboys back on track for a WC, still tied with Skins now @ 7-4. (Neither will catch the now 10-1 G-Men in the regular season.) 8-3 Jets maintain 1 game lead in AFC East after handing Titans first loss of the year. Maybe the league's dream of a Jets - Giants Super Bowl will finally happen.

Matt Cassell has the no-Brady since first quarter of first game Pats @ 7-4, probably on track for a playoff spot. And the Raydaz of all teams actually win in their division, shocking the Bronco's in Denver. But the Superchargers fail to capitalize, losing to the Colts @ home on what else, an Adam Vinateri FG @ the end.

Biggest surprises of season despite losing yesterday have 2B the 7-4 Arizona Cardinals and the 6-5 (last year 1-15) Miami Dolphins, with the Big Tuna (Parcells) running the show in the front office. Love those Coors commercials that use footage of press conferences by ex-coaches and a miked up ex-Ravens coach Brian Billick.

kiwifan
Nov 24th, 2008, 06:35 PM
T.O. is amaze!!! :p

T.O. says "How bout them Eagles?" :tape:

Let the Kevin Kolb era begin. :haha:

SOA_MC
Nov 24th, 2008, 07:12 PM
T.O. is amaze!!! :p

T.O. says "How bout them Eagles?" :tape:

Let the Kevin Kolb era begin. :haha:

It won't be long till he fucks up the Cowboys like he has done every other team he's played on:D He almost did it earlier this season.

You can't be cocky when TO is on your team

tterb
Nov 24th, 2008, 07:31 PM
Watch out for the Colts. Still not looking 100%, but improving enough to gut out wins each week. Hopefully we'll be in top form by the playoffs.

kiwifan
Nov 24th, 2008, 11:20 PM
It won't be long till he fucks up the Cowboys like he has done every other team he's played on:D He almost did it earlier this season.

You can't be cocky when TO is on your team

Naaah! :nerner:

We know how to handle him, when he bitches - ignore him. ;)

If Andy Reid and Donovan McNaab could follow that simple rule their futures would have been a little brighter today. :p

*JR*
Nov 30th, 2008, 03:14 PM
(No wonder the Steelers got rid of this headcase a couple of years ago) :o

Giants' Burress released from hospital after accidental shooting

NFL.com Wire Reports

Plaxico Burress accidentally shot himslef in the right thigh and spent a night in the hospital, another dramatic turn in a tumultuous season for the New York Giants star receiver.

The Giants said the shooting happened Friday night and he was released from the hospital on Saturday afternoon. The team did not say where the shooting took place, what hospital Burress went to or how badly he was injured. Burress had been ruled out of Sunday's game with the Redskins due to a hamstring injury.

However, a team official told The Associated Press that Burress shot himself in a nightclub. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the team was still trying to sort out all the facts. The Giants called the incident an "apparent accidental shooting."

"Our primary concern is for Plaxico's health and well-being, and given the circumstances, we are relieved to say he was released from a New York City hospital," the team said in a statement. New York City police said they were investigating whether the incident took place at Latin Quarter, a sprawling 15,000-square-foot, two-story restaurant and club located in the Radisson Lexington Hotel in midtown Manhattan.

Phone messages and an e-mail left at the nightclub were not immediately returned. Police added that they have not spoken to Burress or recovered the gun used in the shooting. The NFL also is likely to investigate whether Burress violated its Personal Conduct Policy, which might lead to a suspension.

The Giants first confirmed the incident on Saturday morning, saying they had been in contact with the 31-year-old receiver since the shooting and have discussed the matter with NFL security. "This incident could become a matter for law enforcement officials, and because of that we have no comment on any of the details," the team said.

Repeated phones calls to Burress' home and his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, were not immediately returned. "We are gathering information, just like everyone else," NFL spokesman Joe Browne said. Burress injured a hamstring two weeks ago against the Baltimore Ravens. The Giants said Friday he would not play Sunday against the Redskins in Washington.

Earlier this season, the 31-year-old receiver was suspended for a game and fined $117,500 for missing a team meeting and failing to notify the team of his absence. He said he had a family emergency. He also was fined $45,000 by the NFL for his conduct during a game against the 49ers in October when he abused an official and tossed a ball into the stands.

Burress caught the winning pass in the Giants' Super Bowl win over the New England Patriots. He signed a five-year, $35 million contract hours before the season opened in September. (Kiss the rest of that $ goodbye, asshole. RU taking career counseling from Pacman Jones, or maybe Michael Vick?) :help:

The signing came after an unsettling offseason during which Burress was fined $25,000 for refusing to practice during a mandatory minicamp in June. He also missed most of training camp at the University at Albany with a sprained ankle. He insisted the injury -- not his contract -- kept him off the field.

Despite a lack of practice, Burress started in the opener against Washington and caught 10 passes for 133 yards. The following week, he had five catches for 81 yards and a touchdown in a win over St. Louis. The rest of the season has not been as productive. The most passes he has caught in any game since is four in a loss to Cleveland on Oct. 13, the game following his suspension.

Burress has 35 catches for 454 yards and four touchdowns in a season in which he has constantly drawn double coverage. His streak of receptions in 115 consecutive games ended last week in Arizona. He aggravated his hamstring injury during the first series and did not return.

It was the sixth-longest active streak in the league, dating to Nov. 26, 2000 against Cincinnati, Burress' rookie season in Pittsburgh. Signed as a free agent in 2005, Burress had caught a pass in all 56 previous games in which he had played for the Giants.

doni1212
Nov 30th, 2008, 04:45 PM
So how is everyone feeling about their teams this late in the season?
I am confident in my team but the Ravens are one game behind us in our division and we still have to play them. It's getting down to the wire.
We better win against the Pats today!! :armed:

kiwifan
Nov 30th, 2008, 08:09 PM
I need the Ravens and Giants to beat on a few teams for me down the stretch and then of course lose to the Cowboys as well.

A tangled web we weave when we have no back up QB. :shrug:

I still don't know how the heck Atlanta, Tampa Bay and Carolina have such good records but now I have to start hating on them. ::devil:

ps. ROMO is amaze!!! :p

*JR*
Dec 3rd, 2008, 02:50 AM
Giants Say Burress’s Season Is Over

By JOE LAPOINTE
Published: December 2, 2008

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. — Plaxico Burress will not play for the Giants for the rest of the season. He has been suspended without pay, fined and placed on the reserve list for a nonfootball injury, the team announced Tuesday.

In his last game of the season, Palxico Burress left with a sore hamstring in the first quarter, after a pass to him was broken up by Cardinals cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie.

The injury, a self-inflicted gunshot wound, occurred early Saturday morning at a nightclub in Manhattan. Along with other previous violations of team rules, Burress has displayed “conduct detrimental to the team,” the Giants said.

The decision is the latest in a downward spiral for Burress, an elite wide receiver who caught the winning touchdown pass in last season’s Super Bowl and signed a five-year, $35 million contract hours before the season opener.

Previously this season, Burress was suspended for one game and for two weeks of practice after missing a mandatory team meeting. He was held out of the first quarter of another game as punishment for missing a required medical treatment.

Burress arrived at Giants Stadium on Tuesday for medical treatment and left six hours later without speaking to reporters. His agent, Drew Rosenhaus, did not return a telephoned request for comment. Jerry Reese, the Giants’ general manager, said the decision to deactivate Burress was made after an examination by Dr. Scott Rodeo, one of the team physicians.

“Dr. Rodeo believes Plaxico would be out at least four to six weeks with the gunshot wound,” Reese said in a statement. “I had two conversations with Plaxico today, and it was obvious that he understood the magnitude of this situation. He knows that we are here to support him and help him get healthy.”

On Tuesday night, Richard Berthelsen, the general counsel of the National Football League Players Association, said the union could become involved in the case.

“We don’t think the Giants’ actions are consistent with the collective bargaining agreement,” he said in a telephone interview from Washington. “We will be discussing the matter with Plaxico and his representatives.” When asked what might have violated union rules, Berthelsen said, “Let’s leave it at that.”

The suspension is a dramatic development for a team that has an 11-1 record and is widely considered the best in the N.F.L. The incident at the Latin Quarter nightclub and its aftermath have been harshly criticized by, among others, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg.

The Giants said that Burress had also been fined “for multiple and repeated violations of club rules” but did not specify the amount. The Daily News reported Tuesday that it had seen a copy of his contract and that Burress could lose as much as $27 million of its value if he is not invited back.

Burress also met Tuesday with John Mara, the team president, and Coach Tom Coughlin. “When I spoke with Plaxico, he expressed great remorse for letting down his teammates,” Mara said in the statement.

Burress arrived at Giants Stadium around 9:20 a.m. and left at about 3:15 p.m. and did not appear to limp. During that period, he also went to Manhattan to undergo a magnetic resonance imaging test before returning to the stadium, the team said.

Burress, who was not going to play last Sunday in a game at Washington because of a hamstring injury in his right leg, sustained a gunshot wound in the thigh of the same leg at the Latin Quarter when his 40-caliber Glock semiautomatic pistol accidentally discharged.

He was taken to NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital/Weill Cornell Medical Center by middle linebacker Antonio Pierce, a captain and one of his close friends. Burress was booked, handcuffed and arraigned Monday in New York on two separate counts of a weapons charge.

He was released on $100,000 bail. He did not have a permit to carry a gun in New York. He is scheduled to return to Manhattan Criminal Court on March 31. If convicted, Burress could face a sentence of 3 ½ years to 15 years in state prison.

Burress’s lawyer, Benjamin Brafman, said Burress would plead innocent on both counts.

The police have sought to question Pierce for his role in the events at the nightclub and, later, at the hospital to which Burress was taken.

Michael Bachner, a lawyer for Pierce, said that he was confident that Pierce’s name would be cleared.

“Mr. Pierce acted reasonably under what were enormously stressful circumstances,” Bachner said. “He didn’t violate any laws.”

The Giants announced Tuesday that Pierce’s lawyer had been in contact with New York authorities and was arranging a meeting between them and Pierce. But Paul J. Browne, the Police Department’s chief spokesman, said late Tuesday afternoon that police investigators had yet to speak with Pierce.

“He hasn’t been produced,” Browne said. “The investigation continues on three fronts: the role of any of the other Giants’ personnel involved, the hospital’s role and what happened there, and the club.”

Michael D. Mohr, a spokesman for the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, based in West Paterson, N.J., said his office was tracing the gun ownership at the request of the police in Totowa, N.J., where Burress lives.

Giants running back Ahmad Bradshaw was also in the nightclub at the time of the shooting. The Giants said Monday that a lawyer for Bradshaw had been in contact with the New York police.

Burress had 35 catches for 454 yards and 4 touchdowns in 10 games this season. Although his production declined this year, he was often double covered, resulting in more space for other receivers and running backs.

Burress, who joined the Giants from Pittsburgh as a free agent in 2005, has occasionally been an enigma, even to his teammates. He has frequently been fined by the team and has refused to participate in minicamps during the off-season.

Many players have said they like him and admire his skills, but some have found him aloof and perplexing. Amani Toomer, another receiver and a captain, said earlier this season that Burress’s off-field issues had become a distraction.

Around the news media, Burress is generally approachable, but usually begins his interview sessions gradually, slowly dressing before a growing group, turning toward them his bare back displaying the tattooed words “Everything happens for a reason.”

The police in Totowa said earlier this year that they were twice called to Burress’s home for domestic disturbances, although no charges resulted. After his first suspension this season, Burress said he enjoyed his time off.

In an interview with the Fox television network last month, Burress tried to explain himself.

“I’m my own worst enemy,” Burress said. “The things that have happened to me, I have no one to blame but myself. That’s what makes Plaxico Burress Plaxico Burress.”

aussie_fan
Dec 3rd, 2008, 04:58 AM
Plaxico is a moron, i think everybody knows that.

Very happy with the Jets so far, even though the loss against the Broncos didn't help. Jones is having a great season, hopefully we can keep that division lead.

kiwifan
Dec 3rd, 2008, 07:31 AM
I've been talking major trash to the local Pittsburgh fans. :tape:

I can't help it, at this point it is all about "Go Big of Go Home" - we have to pass up the Falcons or the Panthers; or Tampa Bay has to drop into a tie with us in order to advance to the playoffs.

I think one of those scenarios is going to happen, it just has to. :angel:

Plax is an idiot, but I started to feel sorry for him once Bloomberg opened his fat trap...

...from my perspective (and I hate mandatory minimum sentencing) Plax did something stupid (carrying the illegal gun) and paid the price (gunshot wound and kicked off the team); society gains nothing from sending him to jail, he's already fucked. I reject all the "he coulda killed, blah blah blah" because that isn't the issue. What happened is what happened. He didn't assault anyone, it was a pure Barney Fife moment that should make a source of ridicule but the Mayor of Selective Enforcement wants his head on a plate and will probably get it...


....I liked Bloomberg, right up until he decided he wanted to be "Mayor for Life"...

...will New York become a Banana Republic? :lol:

And 5 years from now the NFL does a where are they now on Plax and everyone will be like, "damn why did they have to throw you in jail and completely ruin your life?"

Because that's where our society really wants cocky wide recievers to ultimately end up, disgraced and even better in jail and/or broke. :shrug:

*JR*
Dec 3rd, 2008, 01:28 PM
Because that's where our society really wants cocky wide recievers to ultimately end up, disgraced and even better in jail and/or broke. :shrug:
Whatever brought you TO that conclusion? :tape:

kiwifan
Dec 4th, 2008, 12:04 AM
Whatever brought you TO that conclusion? :tape:

Actually it is an opinion I've had since the 70s; before Political Correctness taught certain people to hide their real feelings about things like race and class.

But TO is a wonderful example, a guy who's never broken a law that I'm aware of, he practices and plays hard and without a doubt lots of the USA's football fans consider him a thug and hope he ends up broke or in jail, why?

Because he's cocky. :yawn:

doni1212
Dec 4th, 2008, 12:41 AM
I've been talking major trash to the local Pittsburgh fans. :tape:

I can't help it, at this point it is all about "Go Big of Go Home" - we have to pass up the Falcons or the Panthers; or Tampa Bay has to drop into a tie with us in order to advance to the playoffs.

I think one of those scenarios is going to happen, it just has to. :angel:

Plax is an idiot, but I started to feel sorry for him once Bloomberg opened his fat trap...

...from my perspective (and I hate mandatory minimum sentencing) Plax did something stupid (carrying the illegal gun) and paid the price (gunshot wound and kicked off the team); society gains nothing from sending him to jail, he's already fucked. I reject all the "he coulda killed, blah blah blah" because that isn't the issue. What happened is what happened. He didn't assault anyone, it was a pure Barney Fife moment that should make a source of ridicule but the Mayor of Selective Enforcement wants his head on a plate and will probably get it...


....I liked Bloomberg, right up until he decided he wanted to be "Mayor for Life"...

...will New York become a Banana Republic? :lol:

And 5 years from now the NFL does a where are they now on Plax and everyone will be like, "damn why did they have to throw you in jail and completely ruin your life?"

Because that's where our society really wants cocky wide recievers to ultimately end up, disgraced and even better in jail and/or broke. :shrug:

Yeah, I'm starting to feel bad for Plax too. They are going to do him like they did Vick, :fiery:
And you're a Cowboys fan? We got you this week, :rocker2: :armed:

Whatever brought you TO that conclusion? :tape:

:lol:

kiwifan
Dec 4th, 2008, 07:16 AM
Yeah, I'm starting to feel bad for Plax too. They are going to do him like they did Vick, :fiery:
And you're a Cowboys fan? We got you this week, :rocker2: :armed:



:lol:

At work I've been walking up to all the Steeler fans and innocently asking them, "Do you know who's playing behind Roethlisberger and Leftwitch?" They of course say, "No." and then I say as I walk away, "You're going to find out this weekend." :devil:

Steeler fans aren't very fun though, too serious. Us NFC East people talk so much trash to each other that it ends up just in pure silliness. Probably because one week I'm hating the Giants and the next week I need the Giants to beat someone else. :tape:

*JR*
Dec 4th, 2008, 02:32 PM
At work I've been walking up to all the Steeler fans and innocently asking them, "Do you know who's playing behind Roethlisberger and Leftwitch?" They of course say, "No." and then I say as I walk away, "You're going to find out this weekend." :devil:

Steeler fans aren't very fun though, too serious. Us NFC East people talk so much trash to each other that it ends up just in pure silliness. Probably because one week I'm hating the Giants and the next week I need the Giants to beat someone else. :tape:
I'd rather have Byron as my 2nd QB than Brad Johnson. Sure the latter was the Buc's QB in the "Chucky Bowl" 5 years ago where Gruden led Tampa Bay to a blowout of his previous team (Da Raydaz) but even then Brad was only 18-34, 215 yards, with 2 TD's and 1 INT. (The Bucs defense won that Super Bowl, picking off Oakland's Rich Gannon 5 times.)

Re. Plaxico, I agree that one shouldn't punish a celebrity more harshly to make an example of them. But neither should it be more lenient. I don't know what a first time offense for illegally carrying a gun in NYC normally gets one, but think that this should apply no more and no less here. (Re. Vick and his cohorts, its too bad they didn't have to face pitbulls raised to fight one-on-one with no weapons. Ditto others involved in dogfighting.)

Speaking of shady characters, Pacman's 6 game suspension is now ova, though the Cowpolks don't have to suit him up this week if they don't want to. Knowing how Jerry Jones operates, I expect that the little troublemaker will @ least do kick returns.

kiwifan
Dec 4th, 2008, 06:01 PM
I'd rather have Byron as my 2nd QB than Brad Johnson.

Re. Plaxico, I agree that one shouldn't punish a celebrity more harshly to make an example of them. But neither should it be more lenient. I don't know what a first time offense for illegally carrying a gun in NYC normally gets one, but think that this should apply no more and no less here.

Pacman's 6 game suspension is now ova

The point wasn't comparing back up QBs :weirdo: It is already a firmly established fact that Dallas has no back up QBs on their current roster. :shrug:

Bloomberg's daughter or her socialite friends under the same fact pattern wouldn't do time because they wouldn't be over-charged or even accurately charged for the same offense. As far as Illegal firearms, if you're talking something with shaved off serial numbers or that is reported stolen or used in a crime, sure 3 1/2 years just for possession makes sense BUT if you're talking about a gun that is registered or was registered somewhere, something clearly not intended to commit a crime with; a heavy fine and maybe 30 days in the slammer would be more appropriate. The law apparently lacks nuance, it will probably be changed if Plex gets the 3 1/2 years. I won't go too deeply into this since I don't even like Plex and agree with most that he's an idiot.

Pac-Man will play and if he's better than the rookies playing in front of him - he might as well start. One of the great things about sports at its purest is that public opinion doesn't determine playing time; one of the very few Meritocracies in life. :angel:

doni1212
Dec 5th, 2008, 02:13 AM
At work I've been walking up to all the Steeler fans and innocently asking them, "Do you know who's playing behind Roethlisberger and Leftwitch?" They of course say, "No." and then I say as I walk away, "You're going to find out this weekend." :devil:

Steeler fans aren't very fun though, too serious. Us NFC East people talk so much trash to each other that it ends up just in pure silliness. Probably because one week I'm hating the Giants and the next week I need the Giants to beat someone else. :tape:

You'll see how fun we can be after this weekend, :devil:

doni1212
Dec 7th, 2008, 11:36 PM
FUCK YEAH!!! THAT LAST PLAY FOR US AGAINST THE COWBOYS WON US THE MOTHERFUCKING GAME BITCHES!!!! ROMO INTERCEPTED AGAIN!! 10-3! :devil:

HRHoliviasmith
Dec 8th, 2008, 12:23 AM
mike tomlin :)

kiwifan
Dec 8th, 2008, 01:31 PM
Painful Loss.

kiwifan
Dec 8th, 2008, 01:35 PM
OK, I'm over it.

Time to destroy the Giants!!! :armed:

.

doni1212
Dec 8th, 2008, 03:09 PM
Painful Loss.

Sorry Kiwi, :hug:
If I was a Cowboys fan, that last interception returned for a touchdown would've killed me.
But hopefully yall will make the playoffs. You guys have such a good defense!!
Now we have to take on the ever difficult Baltimore Ravens in their house, :scared:
If we win, we clinch the division and the #2 spot in the AFC (I think), :banana:

kiwifan
Dec 8th, 2008, 04:18 PM
Sorry Kiwi, :hug:
If I was a Cowboys fan, that last interception returned for a touchdown would've killed me.
But hopefully yall will make the playoffs. You guys have such a good defense!!
Now we have to take on the ever difficult Baltimore Ravens in their house, :scared:
If we win, we clinch the division and the #2 spot in the AFC (I think), :banana:

Why'd you have to be so nice; I was waiting to throw Neil O'Donnell at you. :devil:

We are on a serious uphill struggle for the playoffs, fortunately everyone we're struggling with came up short this week too. :angel:

But, it will be a tough, tough road. :(

Wannabeknowitall
Dec 8th, 2008, 05:06 PM
Why'd you have to be so nice; I was waiting to throw Neil O'Donnell at you. :devil:

We are on a serious uphill struggle for the playoffs, fortunately everyone we're struggling with came up short this week too. :angel:

But, it will be a tough, tough road. :(

Not quite. The Eagles now have their own destiny in their hands now thanks to the Cowboys.

I love how you Cowboys find ways to lose games in the last 6 minutes of the 4th quarter.

Yet again, you let us back in.
We have history on our side in this decade of coming back and sneaking playoff spots.
We did it with Garcia as the quarterback and then with Detmer/Feeley as the quarterback.
It just seems appropriate to do it with McNabb.

The odds just look good.
It's very possible that the Eagles will beat the Browns, Giants beat the Cowboys, and the Buccaneers beat the Falcons, putting the Eagles in the last spot at least for that week.

kiwifan
Dec 8th, 2008, 07:07 PM
The Ray of Sunshine has returned.

Like I said, everyone we're struggling with came up short.

If we can't win out, we don't deserve to be there anyway; Giants, Ravens and then an "EasyBeat" to end the regular season...:)

*JR*
Dec 8th, 2008, 07:11 PM
Anyone notice how diplomatic TO was after the game ("We stunk it up on offense", actually sharing the responsibility). :eek: Was it that as he turned 35 yesterday he's finally growing up a little :tape: or because Romo squeezed the ball in to him for the Cowpokes only TD? :scratch:

Ooh, love the way that little gangsta Pac-Man Jones muffed a punt, too bad he recovered it. :shrug: Both QB's were pin cushions for the pass rush all day. And who'd have thunk that the Steelers would get stopped on all 3 4th down conversions and still win? :devil:

I'd express some sympathy to Kounselor Kiwi for Marion Barber missing the game, but then I've never seen him do so for any other team. He's even made fun of it when Donovan has gotten hurt in recent years. :armed:

Anyhow, the way Favre has played the last 2 games, maybe this isn't the year for The Meadowlands Bowl in late January, but... The Manning Bowl. Now that he's healthy, Big Brother has quietly won 6 in a row and led the Colts to a 9-4 record.

kiwifan
Dec 8th, 2008, 07:31 PM
Looks like someone's looking for attention. :tape:

Martian Martin
Dec 8th, 2008, 09:20 PM
Least it looks as though the Broncos will be in the play offs :) I know people say it's a poor division (and it has been this season) but they've beaten three out of the four teams from the NFC South (Falcons, Bucs and the Saints. Could be four out of four next week against the Panthers), plus the Jets are no mugs. They've got a lot of younger players and they've also done really well considering they've now got five RB's stuck on IR.

The last few weeks of the season should be great because there are a lot of teams in the mix. Tonight's match is a big one.

doni1212
Dec 9th, 2008, 04:56 AM
Why'd you have to be so nice; I was waiting to throw Neil O'Donnell at you. :devil:

We are on a serious uphill struggle for the playoffs, fortunately everyone we're struggling with came up short this week too. :angel:

But, it will be a tough, tough road. :(

Lol, I had to research and see who Neil O'Donnell was but I got it now, :lol:

Anyone notice how diplomatic TO was after the game ("We stunk it up on offense", actually sharing the responsibility). :eek: Was it that as he turned 35 yesterday he's finally growing up a little :tape: or because Romo squeezed the ball in to him for the Cowpokes only TD? :scratch:

Anyhow, the way Favre has played the last 2 games, maybe this isn't the year for The Meadowlands Bowl in late January, but... The Manning Bowl. Now that he's healthy, Big Brother has quietly won 6 in a row and led the Colts to a 9-4 record.

Nope, TO was very vocal and disgusting on the sidelines after the loss. He looked liked a sore loser again.
Yeah, I feel like everyone is overlooking Peyton, including myself. They'll be scary to face in the playoffs seeing as we already lost to them before, :scared:

doni1212
Dec 17th, 2008, 12:16 AM
I forgot to bump this, :devil:
We're starting to look like the team to beat come post-season.
We'll see for sure this week in Tennessee, ;)

*JR*
Dec 17th, 2008, 01:59 AM
I forgot to bump this, :devil:
We're starting to look like the team to beat come post-season.
We'll see for sure this week in Tennessee, ;)
Good thing you beat the Ravens on a controversial TD (after that 2nd generation Suisse QB spiked the ball on 1st down with loads of time left, so after failing to get in on 2nd, if that 3rd down pass hadn't been reversed then you'd have had to go for it on 4th and inches or take a FG for ovatime.)

Cuz now the Ravens need the win more for Playoff Position, and are gonna be really mad on Saturday night. And Tony Romo, you do not want to face an angry Ray Lewis and co. who really really need the win, especially if you're banged up. :devil: The way Washington is playing, the Eagles should take that one, then they can keep Romo's record of late December-January failure going in the final week.

SOA_MC
Dec 17th, 2008, 10:30 AM
I forgot to bump this, :devil:
We're starting to look like the team to beat come post-season.
We'll see for sure this week in Tennessee, ;)

Eagles - Steelers Superbowl:cool::worship:

doni1212
Dec 17th, 2008, 05:17 PM
Good thing you beat the Ravens on a controversial TD (after that 2nd generation Suisse QB spiked the ball on 1st down with loads of time left, so after failing to get in on 2nd, if that 3rd down pass hadn't been reversed then you'd have had to go for it on 4th and inches or take a FG for ovatime.)

Cuz now the Ravens need the win more for Playoff Position, and are gonna be really mad on Saturday night. And Tony Romo, you do not want to face an angry Ray Lewis and co. who really really need the win, especially if you're banged up. :devil: The way Washington is playing, the Eagles should take that one, then they can keep Romo's record of late December-January failure going in the final week.

Yeah, Baltimore is going to win that. Ray Lewis and co. will kill Romo, lol.
And yes, that was soooo dumb of Ben to spike the ball on 1st and goal and leave us with only 2 real chances left. I was super scared after that!
And I didn't think that touchdown was legit but hey, it won the game for us, :devil:

Eagles - Steelers Superbowl:cool::worship:

Now that would be very, very interesting. We already lost to them once this year but that would be a very fun Superbowl.
Battle of/for Pennsylvania, :rocker2:

kiwifan
Dec 18th, 2008, 03:42 AM
Ravens will have to score to win.

The Cowboys are discovering new weapons every week. ;)

I like Dallas' chances to put 20+ points on the Ravens, Baltimore can't score that much on Da Boys without Romo's help. :cool:

Wannabeknowitall
Dec 18th, 2008, 03:17 PM
Lol, I had to research and see who Neil O'Donnell was but I got it now, :lol:



Nope, TO was very vocal and disgusting on the sidelines after the loss. He looked liked a sore loser again.
Yeah, I feel like everyone is overlooking Peyton, including myself. They'll be scary to face in the playoffs seeing as we already lost to them before, :scared:

Overlooking. :lol:
I think everyone knows once the Peyton got his feet under him and once some of the offense and defense got healthy (including my favorite player Mr. Sanders (yummo)), that they would go on yet another winning streak as they have year after year after year.

He really hasn't done a damn thing new to get any accolades this year.
Brett Favre is ancient and has better stats than him.
So is Kerry Collins and the Titans defense is one of the best.

The AFC playoffs will be won with defense.

Miami, Pittsburgh, Tennessee, Baltimore are just on a different level than the Colts.
I really don't see the Colts beating two of these teams away from home, in Janurary, to get to the Super Bowl especially when all of them have better running packages for the playoffs.
They might get lucky and play the defenseless Broncos but other than that, it's going to be a tough road.

I'm sorry to me, Eli is the better Manning and has the better mental toughness.

Any team in the AFC in that playoff the year the Colts won could have beaten the Bears.
Grossman was the worse first-string quarterback in the Super Bowl since I can't even recall.

Eli beat every team on the road and beat the 18-0 Patriots to win a Super Bowl.

Wannabeknowitall
Dec 18th, 2008, 03:37 PM
Yeah, Baltimore is going to win that. Ray Lewis and co. will kill Romo, lol.
And yes, that was soooo dumb of Ben to spike the ball on 1st and goal and leave us with only 2 real chances left. I was super scared after that!
And I didn't think that touchdown was legit but hey, it won the game for us, :devil:



Now that would be very, very interesting. We already lost to them once this year but that would be a very fun Superbowl.
Battle of/for Pennsylvania, :rocker2:

I'm pretty sure the Ravens are pissed for losing against a division rival.
Problem is if you look at which team has had the better defense the last two weeks, it would be the Cowboys.
The only way I see the Ravens winning this game is if they get to a likely not 100% Romo early.

I don't see the Steelers making the Super Bowl if they don't start protecting Big Ben better.
He might be Big Ben but those sacks are going to take a toll on him sooner than later.

And the Eagles...
well with the Buccuneers not beating who they are suppose to beat the last two weeks, they're likely going to find a way to beat the under .500 teams they have to play the next two weeks.

The Eagles need Adrian Peterson to want to make the playoffs more than Tevarus Jackson because we know what happens when Jackson sees the end of the tunnel as last year has shown, he chokes and allows another team with choking quarterbacks to make it, the Redskins.

I'm sorry but IMO Jason Campbell is backup quarterback material.
He's no better than a .500 quarterback and will likely always be that way.
He's too slim for me as a quarterback and he drops the ball once the coverage can get to him and sacks him way too much.

I still worry about the Eagles/Redskins game because the Redskins have WAY too much talent to just sit there and not ruin someone's playoff chances.

Landry, Thomas, Portis, Campbell, Taylor, Thrash, not only good players, but good on the eyes, yummo.

SOA_MC
Dec 18th, 2008, 05:26 PM
I'm sorry to me, Eli is the better Manning and has the better mental toughness.

Eli has a better defense;) if Peyton had a Giant like defense over the last 5-6 years he would have at least 2 Superbowl rings right now

kiwifan
Dec 21st, 2008, 04:38 AM
Well that sucked. :explode:

SOA_MC
Dec 21st, 2008, 01:53 PM
The Cowboys are going to miss the playoffs:haha:

Go Eagles:rocker2:

doni1212
Dec 21st, 2008, 08:45 PM
Well that sucked. :explode:

:rolls:

The Cowboys are going to miss the playoffs:haha:

Go Eagles:rocker2:

I know!! But I can't talk today. Big Ben was pathetic in our loss to the Titans, :rolleyes:
We better get it together before the post-season, :armed:

kiwifan
Dec 21st, 2008, 11:31 PM
The Cowboys are going to miss the playoffs:haha:

Go Eagles:rocker2:

Eagles just ate shit in a major way.

Because of the loses today by Tampa Bay and the Fleagles guess what...

...COWBOYS CONTROL THEIR OWN FATE AGAIN!!!

:bounce: :bounce: HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS!!! :bounce: :bounce:

doni1212
Dec 22nd, 2008, 02:08 AM
Eagles just ate shit in a major way.

Because of the loses today by Tampa Bay and the Fleagles guess what...

...COWBOYS CONTROL THEIR OWN FATE AGAIN!!!

:bounce: :bounce: HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS!!! :bounce: :bounce:


:haha:
And watch they fuck it up, AGAIN!!! :rolls:
And they have to play in Philly?!! This will be fun, :lol:

HRHoliviasmith
Dec 22nd, 2008, 04:29 AM
three of my four faves: eagles, steelers, carolina :rolleyes::mad::o:sad::(:fiery:

*JR*
Dec 22nd, 2008, 02:03 PM
I like Dallas' chances to put 20+ points on the Ravens, Baltimore can't score that much on Da Boys without Romo's help. :cool:
Yeah, Romo failed to stop those TD gallops of like 79 and 83 yards by the Ravens to seal a 33-24 win. :lol: (All the Italian Stallion really gave them with TO's as in turnova's as opposed to Wacky Wideouts was a FG or two.)

BTW, Philly's loss had absolutely no impact on whether Dallas gets in or not, as the winner between them next week still has the edge ova the other. Tampa Bay's loss gives the Cowboys a better chance, but the other half of that involves some justice, as it was to SD.

Even the league admitted that the Superchargers got robbed in their early season game in Denver, when Jay Cutler clearly fumbled but a stupid rule let the Broncos retain possession and he then hit the winning TD and 2 point conversion. So its good that SD can still beat them out for the division title with a win @ home in their rematch next week.

kiwifan
Dec 22nd, 2008, 04:42 PM
Yeah, Romo failed to stop those TD gallops of like 79 and 83 yards by the Ravens to seal a 33-24 win. :lol:

It is easy to see who doesn't understand football by how they focus on the final two touchdowns by the Ravens. :tape: :lol: :tape:

That's all. ;)

For you Euros out there, sort of like how the winning soccer team scores those last minute breakaway goals because the losing team has to press to get the ball back and has to lose defensive shape in order to try to get the victory.

SOA_MC
Dec 28th, 2008, 10:48 PM
Eagles just ate shit in a major way.

Because of the loses today by Tampa Bay and the Fleagles guess what...

...COWBOYS CONTROL THEIR OWN FATE AGAIN!!!

:bounce: :bounce: HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS!!! :bounce: :bounce:


:tape:

Eagles over Cowboys 44-3 with 10:00 minutes still left in the fourth quarter

Eagles:rocker2:

doni1212
Dec 28th, 2008, 10:52 PM
:haha:
And watch they fuck it up, AGAIN!!! :rolls:
And they have to play in Philly?!! This will be fun, :lol:

I AM AMAZING!!!
:worship::worship::worship:

doni1212
Dec 28th, 2008, 10:55 PM
And Big Ben was sacked so hard that he had to get taken off on a stretcher and taken to a local hospital, :sad:
Now I'm scared for our chances in the playoffs. But we still have that first week off, :shrug: And one man doesn't make the team, :shrug:
:unsure:

*JR*
Dec 28th, 2008, 11:55 PM
And Big Ben was sacked so hard that he had to get taken off on a stretcher and taken to a local hospital, :sad:
Now I'm scared for our chances in the playoffs. But we still have that first week off, :shrug: And one man doesn't make the team, :shrug:
:unsure:
He probably shouldn't have been in there, but Byron Leftwich is a good QB if he needs to play. BTW Doni...

How bout them Cowboys? :haha: :haha:

And I wonder where Wade Phillips will be an assistant next season. :bigwave:

Halardfan
Dec 29th, 2008, 12:14 AM
My Dolphins have to be team of the season, a jaw dropping transformation.

HRHoliviasmith
Dec 29th, 2008, 12:18 AM
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGG LLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!:wor ship::bounce:

HRHoliviasmith
Dec 29th, 2008, 12:21 AM
...

HRHoliviasmith
Dec 29th, 2008, 12:25 AM
congrats to Steelers, Carolina and Indy :rocker:

Detroit must really, really, really, really, really, really, really want that #1 pick. :haha:

Sally Struthers
Dec 29th, 2008, 12:51 AM
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Linnie
Dec 29th, 2008, 01:03 AM
My Dolphins have to be team of the season, a jaw dropping transformation.
Your Dolphins? :wavey: :lol: Just incredible! :worship:

kiwifan
Dec 29th, 2008, 03:18 AM
I AM AMAZING!!!
:worship::worship::worship:

Good thing there will be another season, next fall. :angel:

So let me get in my first comment for next season :hehehe:...

The Dallas Cowboys are going to win the Super Bowl!!! :cool:

.

kris719
Dec 29th, 2008, 04:14 AM
One giant LOL at the cowboys and their crazy supporters here :lol:

denver chokes away their massive lead and the one and only San Diego Chargers are in to the playoffs. eat that cutler.

DemWilliamsGulls
Dec 29th, 2008, 11:52 AM
They sucked yesterday....lol...

*JR*
Dec 29th, 2008, 01:36 PM
An 8-8 team (the Chargers) made it while one that was 11-5 (the Pats) didn't. This is like ('85, I think) when the Broncos went 11-5 but didn't while the old Cleveland Browns (now the Baltimore Ravens) did, winning their division by going 8-8. But its only fair, as the ref admitted he blew the call on Jay Cutler's lost fumble near the end of their first game this year , causing a net 2 game swing in Denver's favor vs. San Diego.

In terms of that so-called "America's team" :tape: there was a pattern yesterday. Twice the spoiled brat bigmouth (TO) caught a long pass, the first time from tight end Jason Witten on a gadget play. Following both, Mr. Clutch Tony Romo :help: got stripped of the ball and the Eagle who recovered "took it to the house". :D (73 and 96 yards, I believe, I'm sure the dumbass who thinks the Cowpolks walk on water has some clever excuse for that.) :lol:

BTW, there's a good reason Dallas blew it. When the other WC contenders (Tampa Bay and Chicago) both lost in early contests yesterday, this became a defact playoff game, as the winner would play next week while the loser would go home. And we all know how the Italian Stallion does in playoff games. :help:

Oh, memo to Jerry Jones: Wade Phillips needs fired. :p

kiwifan
Dec 29th, 2008, 04:32 PM
One giant LOL at the cowboys and their crazy supporters here :lol:

It actually seems the other way.

While us Cowboy fans merely support our team and wish death up our rivals, the entire rest of the league seems to think we are their rivals.

Beware the day when the Boys accept this us against the world premise, right now they just think they're better than everyone else res ipsa loquitur (which is sorta true :nerner: ) but they are moving back towards having the killer instincts of the '90s Teams.

The Defense just got there this year, the Offense has to catch up next year...

...Looks like Da Boys will be in need of some new linebackers next season, but beyond that a healthy Felix Jones, a Roy Williams with an off season to get in synch with Romo and the rest of the team one year wiser and hungrier...

...ready to end the season the way the Dallas Cowboys are supposed to end every season, in the Super Bowl...

...or heads will roll. :)

kris719
Dec 29th, 2008, 04:42 PM
It actually seems the other way.

While us Cowboy fans merely support our team and wish death up our rivals, the entire rest of the league seems to think we are their rivals.

Beware the day when the Boys accept this us against the world premise, right now they just think they're better than everyone else res ipsa loquitur (which is sorta true :nerner: ) but they are moving back towards having the killer instincts of the '90s Teams.

The Defense just got there this year, the Offense has to catch up next year...

...Looks like Da Boys will be in need of some new linebackers next season, but beyond that a healthy Felix Jones, a Roy Williams with an off season to get in synch with Romo and the rest of the team one year wiser and hungrier...

...ready to end the season the way the Dallas Cowboys are supposed to end every season, in the Super Bowl...

...or heads will roll. :)

oh deluded fool :lol:

funny as it may seem, the cowboys do not have a god goven right to win the super bowl. it's no wonder a team that hasn't won a playoff game since 1996 can't make the playoffs.

doni1212
Dec 29th, 2008, 05:29 PM
He probably shouldn't have been in there, but Byron Leftwich is a good QB if he needs to play. BTW Doni...

How bout them Cowboys? :haha: :haha:

And I wonder where Wade Phillips will be an assistant next season. :bigwave:

:lol:
I just knew they couldn't control their own destiny. Plain sad, really.

congrats to Steelers, Carolina and Indy :rocker:

Detroit must really, really, really, really, really, really, really want that #1 pick. :haha:

:lol:
Thanks!

Good thing there will be another season, next fall. :angel:

So let me get in my first comment for next season :hehehe:...

The Dallas Cowboys are going to win the Super Bowl!!! :cool:

.

:rolls: :help: :rolls:

Halardfan
Dec 29th, 2008, 06:01 PM
Your Dolphins? :wavey: :lol: Just incredible! :worship:

Yeah Ive been a Dolphins fan since about 1983. The first full season was the year the Raiders (my second team!) beat the Redskins in the Super Bowl. Of course Marino and co made the Super Bowl the following year. Never thought we still wouldnt have gone back to a Super Bowl to date.

Must admit my interest and knowledge of the NFL have faded as the years have gone by but the Dolphins will always have a special place in my heart.

kiwifan
Dec 29th, 2008, 06:45 PM
funny as it may seem, the cowboys do not have a god g[i]ven right to win the super bowl.

Yes they do. :) and you know this going back to Tom Landry and leaving a hole in the roof, Baby!!!

You'll see next season. :armed:

Until then, go everyone who isn't a Giant or an Eagle!

I don't have much to worry about in "negative fan mode" since the Skins and Niners (our only truly worthy NFC rivals) are with us in the gutter. Pitt is our truly worthy AFC rival but as long as Tomlin is coaching them I have to wish them another 2 Super Bowl appearances just so "W&M Mike" will have had as much success as "The Chin" he replaced.

kris719
Dec 29th, 2008, 06:48 PM
Yes they do. :) and you know this going back to Tom Landry and leaving a hole in the roof, Baby!!!

You'll see next season. :armed:

Until then, go everyone who isn't a Giant or an Eagle!

I don't have much to worry about in "negative fan mode" since the Skins and Niners (our only truly worthy NFC rivals) are with us in the gutter. Pitt is our truly worthy AFC rival but as long as Tomlin is coaching them I have to wish them another 2 Super Bowl appearances just so "W&M Mike" will have had as much success as "The Chin" he replaced.

as i said before- one giant LOL :lol:

kiwifan
Dec 29th, 2008, 08:21 PM
as i said before- one giant LOL :lol:

Well I do have to honestly say that if you don't realize I'm just having fun talking trash all season, the joke is really on you. :lol:

Cheers - ;)

miffedmax
Dec 29th, 2008, 09:43 PM
It is a good day to be a Vikings fan.

I plan to enjoy it while I can, although I would much rather be playing the Cowsissies than an actual NFL team like the Eagles.

The other good thing about the Vikings winning is that some Bear fans are also probably Fire fans and they are disappointed. Anything that causes Fire fans pain is a good thing. So this really is a win/win for me.

I seem to be going off on a tangent about the wrong (or, depending upon your viewpoint, the right) kind of football. However, yesterday's loss is clearly God's punishment upon Bear fans for allowing such odious, loathsome, cretinous, decadent, corrupt and unholy beings as the Fire to live among them.

That's also the real reason the Cubs haven't won a World Series either.

mykarma
Jan 4th, 2009, 03:48 AM
San Diego and Colts played an awesome, exciting game. I just knew that San Diego was done when LT could no longer play.

kris719
Jan 4th, 2009, 04:06 AM
oh lookie here, chargers move on, colts go home....... yet again hehehehe

tterb
Jan 4th, 2009, 04:18 AM
Unsurprised. Damnit. Colts need a resurrection of their running game next year. And the league needs to do away with automatically giving division winners home games.

As much as it pains me, I guess I'm for the Steelers now. Gawd, I hate the Chargers and Philip Rivers goofy ass.

kris719
Jan 4th, 2009, 04:21 AM
Unsurprised. Damnit. Colts need a resurrection of their running game next year. And the league needs to do away with automatically giving division winners home games.

As much as it pains me, I guess I'm for the Steelers now. Gawd, I hate the Chargers and Philip Rivers goofy ass.

that's a shame

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 4th, 2009, 04:33 AM
i'm in so much pain right now :sad: :sobbing:

doni1212
Jan 4th, 2009, 04:48 AM
Unsurprised. Damnit. Colts need a resurrection of their running game next year. And the league needs to do away with automatically giving division winners home games.

As much as it pains me, I guess I'm for the Steelers now. Gawd, I hate the Chargers and Philip Rivers goofy ass.

:devil: :banana:


Yeah, so I came in at the end of the game when it was in overtime and I was shocked. I thought the Colts would've blew the Chargers out of the water!!
And then all those penalties by Indy during the Chargers drive in OT basically gave them the game. Sad really... MVP Peyton and Dungy's faces...:sad:

But tomorrow, I'm predicting wins by Baltimore and Philly. And thus, we'll be playing the Chargers next week...:shrug:

kiwifan
Jan 4th, 2009, 05:10 AM
So far my negative fandom is 100%; now I just need the Ravens and Vikings to do their part. :devil:

kris719
Jan 4th, 2009, 05:24 AM
MVP Peyton

someone please explain why manning won the mvp. i'm interested to know what you think....

btw if your argument is numbers, you're wrong. if it's "most valuable to a specific team", you're wrong.

doni1212
Jan 4th, 2009, 05:25 AM
someone please explain why manning won the mvp. i'm interested to know what you think....

btw if your argument is numbers, you're wrong. if it's "most valuable to a specific team", you're wrong.

I have no explanation. I don't know why he won it in the first place, :shrug: I was just stating that he won MVP, :lol:

SOA_MC
Jan 4th, 2009, 05:31 AM
So far my negative fandom is 100%; now I just need the Ravens and Vikings to do their part. :devil:

Not going to happen, you saw what the Eagles did that team they played last week:devil: Eagles play like that in the playoffs Eagles win the superbowl:cool:

kris719
Jan 4th, 2009, 05:35 AM
I have no explanation. I don't know why he won it in the first place, :shrug: I was just stating that he won MVP, :lol:

ok fair enough

btw i didn't mean to sound like i was attacking you with that post, i was just posing a question.

hankqq
Jan 4th, 2009, 06:32 AM
1 Manning brother down, 1 more to go as far as this Patriots fan is concerned :lol: :yeah:

doni1212
Jan 4th, 2009, 12:19 PM
Not going to happen, you saw what the Eagles did that team they played last week:devil: Eagles play like that in the playoffs Eagles win the superbowl:cool:

Eagles will go to the Superbowl but they won't win it, ;)

ok fair enough

btw i didn't mean to sound like i was attacking you with that post, i was just posing a question.

No, I didn't think you were. I was just saying I have no idea how he won it, :lol:

1 Manning brother down, 1 more to go as far as this Patriots fan is concerned :lol: :yeah:

:rolls: Well, I don't see Eli getting to the Superbowl again but who knows...stranger things have happened, :shrug:
But I'm predicting a Eagles-Steelers Superbowl, or if we lose, a Eagles-Ravens Superbowl.

kiwifan
Jan 4th, 2009, 02:43 PM
Not going to happen, you saw what the Eagles did that team they played last week:devil: Eagles play like that in the playoffs Eagles win the superbowl:cool:

Fleagles got lucky last week, every stupid bounce turned into a touchdown...

...The Vikings have too much, uh, lets see, hmmmm :scratch: to lose to the sorry ass Eagles!!!. ;)

kris719
Jan 4th, 2009, 03:47 PM
Fleagles got lucky last week, every stupid bounce turned into a touchdown...

luck? they won 44-6.

charmedRic
Jan 4th, 2009, 07:57 PM
E-A-G-L-E-S! EAGLES!! <- most annoying cheer in the NFL.


congrats ... you can spell ... now here's a cookie. ;-)

tterb
Jan 4th, 2009, 07:59 PM
that's a shame
Yeah, I don't like rooting for the Steelers, but I can't stand the Chargers, I think the Titans had a flukey year, and the Dolphins had a weak ass schedule. The Ravens would be a solid enough representative from the AFC, I guess, but the Steelers feel more legit.

:devil: :banana:

Yeah, so I came in at the end of the game when it was in overtime and I was shocked. I thought the Colts would've blew the Chargers out of the water!!
And then all those penalties by Indy during the Chargers drive in OT basically gave them the game. Sad really... MVP Peyton and Dungy's faces...:sad:

But tomorrow, I'm predicting wins by Baltimore and Philly. And thus, we'll be playing the Chargers next week...:shrug:
I think Baltimore will win, too, and I think the Steelers are the kinf of team that can take apart the Chargers. Strong running game, strong defense, as long as the offense doesn't fall apart, I'd say they win that match up 24-13. I really wanted a Steelers-Colts match up, but we appear to have a mental block against SD the same as the one we had against NE for most of this decade.

tterb
Jan 4th, 2009, 08:16 PM
someone please explain why manning won the mvp. i'm interested to know what you think....

btw if your argument is numbers, you're wrong. if it's "most valuable to a specific team", you're wrong.
MVP arguments shouldn't be strictly, as the person who puts up best numbers should get the offensive/defensive player of the year awards.

With no running game this year, the Colts would easily have been closer to 6-10 this year without Manning. He's obviously pretty darn valuable.

I think the better question would be who you think was more valuable to his team than Manning is to the Colts? I think the only others nearly as important are Brees for NO and Peterson for the Vikings, and I can certainly see excellent arguments being made for either one. But I don't know why anyone would think it's so off for Peyton to have won it. :shrug:

doni1212
Jan 4th, 2009, 08:21 PM
luck? they won 44-6.

:haha:

Yeah, I don't like rooting for the Steelers, but I can't stand the Chargers, I think the Titans had a flukey year, and the Dolphins had a weak ass schedule. The Ravens would be a solid enough representative from the AFC, I guess, but the Steelers feel more legit.


I think Baltimore will win, too, and I think the Steelers are the kinf of team that can take apart the Chargers. Strong running game, strong defense, as long as the offense doesn't fall apart, I'd say they win that match up 24-13. I really wanted a Steelers-Colts match up, but we appear to have a mental block against SD the same as the one we had against NE for most of this decade.

Well, the Ravens won. So next, Philly will probably win and then we have 8 teams left!
I think we can beat the Chargers and I really, really want the Ravens to beat the Titans next week so we can play Baltimore at home!
Oh, and hopefully our offense holds up, :rolls:

kris719
Jan 4th, 2009, 08:32 PM
MVP arguments shouldn't be strictly, as the person who puts up best numbers should get the offensive/defensive player of the year awards.

With no running game this year, the Colts would easily have been closer to 6-10 this year without Manning. He's obviously pretty darn valuable.

I think the better question would be who you think was more valuable to his team than Manning is to the Colts? I think the only others nearly as important are Brees for NO and Peterson for the Vikings, and I can certainly see excellent arguments being made for either one. But I don't know why anyone would think it's so off for Peyton to have won it. :shrug:

no shit he's valuable, but so are about 40 other guys. Brees, Warner, Rivers, and Peterson are all (in my opinion) more deserving. but hey, its over with so whatever.

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 4th, 2009, 08:35 PM
GO EAGLES!!!! *pleaseGodpleaseGodpleaseGodpleaseGodpleaseGod*

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 4th, 2009, 08:39 PM
Unsurprised. Damnit. Colts need a resurrection of their running game next year. And the league needs to do away with automatically giving division winners home games.

As much as it pains me, I guess I'm for the Steelers now. Gawd, I hate the Chargers and Philip Rivers goofy ass.

now more than ever, especially Norv Turner. :mad:

kris719
Jan 4th, 2009, 08:57 PM
to all that hate the Chargers: boo hoo.

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 4th, 2009, 09:20 PM
to all that hate the Chargers: boo hoo.

i like LT. :angel:

tterb
Jan 4th, 2009, 10:15 PM
no shit he's valuable, but so are about 40 other guys. Brees, Warner, Rivers, and Peterson are all (in my opinion) more deserving. but hey, its over with so whatever.
Well, you brought it up, no need to sound so bitter about it. It's a completely subjective award, so how you can flat out tell someone that their opinion on who is most valuable to their team is "wrong" is a bit beyond me, but it's cool. I would've voted for Brees myself, but they rarely award players from teams that had mediocre seasons. Just the way it is.

By the way, my hatred of the Chargers doesn't mean I don't ccompletely understand that they schooled the Colts in the second half last night. Field position combined with solid defense and Sproles were killer. No excuses from me.

That all said, looking forward to a Steelers win. :D

SOA_MC
Jan 4th, 2009, 10:43 PM
Just turned on the TV 16-14 Eagles, Westbrook 11 rush yards:rolleyes: In big games the offensive all on McNabb shoulders again

E-A-G-L-E-S! EAGLES!! <- most annoying cheer in the NFL.


congrats ... you can spell ... now here's a cookie. ;-)

Isn't that the Jets famous chant? J - E - T - S JETS!!! JETS!!! JETS!!!

*JR*
Jan 5th, 2009, 12:32 AM
Today home field advantage meant nothing, as the Ravens and Eagles defenses dominated their games. Now somebody who's so obsessed with the Cowpolks that in my time on this board he's exalted QB's Quincy Carter, Vinny Testaverde, and Drew "Somebody Catch It, Don't Matter If You're A Receiver or Defender" Bledsoe as saviors :tape: (B4 the Italian Stallion) has to face that either the Eagles or the Giants will be in the NFC Championship Game in 2 weeks. :cool:

hankqq
Jan 5th, 2009, 01:05 AM
good weekend for me :) Eagles won, while Colts and Dolphins lost :dance:

charmedRic
Jan 5th, 2009, 02:20 AM
Just turned on the TV 16-14 Eagles, Westbrook 11 rush yards:rolleyes: In big games the offensive all on McNabb shoulders again



Isn't that the Jets famous chant? J - E - T - S JETS!!! JETS!!! JETS!!!



We'll give the Jets a cookie as well. :worship:

kiwifan
Jan 5th, 2009, 02:56 AM
Today home field advantage meant nothing, as the Ravens and Eagles defenses dominated their games. Now somebody who's so obsessed with the Cowpolks that in my time on this board he's exalted QB's Quincy Carter, Vinny Testaverde, and Drew "Somebody Catch It, Don't Matter If You're A Receiver or Defender" Bledsoe as saviors :tape: (B4 the Italian Stallion) has to face that either the Eagles or the Giants will be in the NFC Championship Game in 2 weeks. :cool:

Another dimwit who can't grasp the point :weirdo:...

...if Felix Unger is the Cowboys QB next season, I'll start the season calling him the NFL's Greatest QB and proclaiming a Super Bowl victory is right around the corner.

I'm a Dallas Cowboy "Superfan"; I guess you didn't catch the way I would use the same thread and just replace the QB's name each year. :rolleyes: :p :rolleyes:

God some people are dense. :lol:

galadriel
Jan 5th, 2009, 12:56 PM
Vikings :sad: :sad: :sad:

*JR*
Jan 5th, 2009, 03:56 PM
Another dimwit who can't grasp the point :weirdo:...

...if Felix Unger is the Cowboys QB next season, I'll start the season calling him the NFL's Greatest QB and proclaiming a Super Bowl victory is right around the corner.

I'm a Dallas Cowboy "Superfan"; I guess you didn't catch the way I would use the same thread and just replace the QB's name each year. :rolleyes: :p :rolleyes:

God some people are dense. :lol:
No, I'm quite aware of that. While I applaud loyalty (and have no problem with trash talking by fans) I think that those who act like "my team (or tennis player, whatever) is God's greatest gift to the world" go beyond that. Sort of like the cheeseheads in Green Bay, the "dogs" in Cleveland, the barechested guys with the team's colors painted on, etc.

Its sort of like the Annamania that there used 2B here, where you'd have Frank Riley using the following circular reasoning: "I love Anna Kournikova". (Why?) "Because she made me love tennis." (How did she do that?) "Because I love Anna Kournikova" and so on, in a sort of loop.

Notice that I never bust on Denise, though she loves the same NFL team you do. While she's a fiercely loyal fan, she's not obsessive about it. In other words, it doesn't seem like her world revolves around a football team and one that plays rugby, etc.

Wannabeknowitall
Jan 5th, 2009, 09:33 PM
Notice that I never bust on Denise, though she loves the same NFL team you do. While she's a fiercely loyal fan, she's not obsessive about it. In other words, it doesn't seem like her world revolves around a football team and one that plays rugby, etc.

Ouch.
I know I'm a little late Cowboys fans.

BUT WE KICK YALL ASSES!!! :lol: :haha: :lol:

And JR, yeah the Eagles were a 8-8 team last year and you predicted that. Good for you.

BUT NOT THIS YEAR. :lol:

E-A-G-L-E-S!!! EAGLES!!!

Oh and a few more pointers.

Favre please retire.
Dungy please retire.
Peyton Manning is as overrated as Tim Tebow.

And the Broncos will never have a better coach than Mike Shanahan.

And although I like Chad Pennington, doesn't it feel good to see him laying on his stomach time and time again.
He's like that dork with the beat me up sign on him that he just doesn't know about.

Wannabeknowitall
Jan 5th, 2009, 09:38 PM
E-A-G-L-E-S! EAGLES!! <- most annoying cheer in the NFL.


congrats ... you can spell ... now here's a cookie. ;-)

If you don't like the way Pennsylvania roots on its teams then you know what...

Get the fuck out. :lol:

Seriously, you have this disposition and you pick Penn St. to go to.
Really now?

The most obcessive fans in probably all of college football.
Smart.

Wannabeknowitall
Jan 5th, 2009, 09:40 PM
Fleagles got lucky last week, every stupid bounce turned into a touchdown...

...The Vikings have too much, uh, lets see, hmmmm :scratch: to lose to the sorry ass Eagles!!!. ;)

WRONG AGAIN.

We should just play the opposite game with you.

Let's start:

TO doesn't break apart teams.
Romo plays great when the game on the line.
The Cowboys deserve a new stadium.

kiwifan
Jan 5th, 2009, 11:26 PM
WRONG AGAIN.

We should just play the opposite game with you.

Let's start:

TO doesn't break apart teams.
Romo plays great when the game on the line.
The Cowboys deserve a new stadium.

For all your general douche baggedness, at least you "get it"; well other than the meaning of opposite apparently. :lol:

Now allow me to correct your usually dopey statements since all your opposites were actually statements of fact (well the Romo one :tape: :tape: :tape: )

TO is awesome, he only breaks up weak ass teams like the Fleagles and Niners.

Romo will be awesome, next year.

G-d deserves a new stadium to watch his Cowboys play in.

I guess the Fleagles lucky ass play has raised your spirits. :angel:

Worst problem for me is that I prefer McNabb to the stupid ass Giants so next week is a nice shit sandwich; my only hope is the Panthers saving this season on the NFC side by slaying all my enemies. ;)

I don't dislike any AFC team so whoever they are, please win the Super Bowl!!! :yeah:

kiwifan
Jan 5th, 2009, 11:41 PM
No, I'm quite aware of that. While I applaud loyalty (and have no problem with trash talking by fans) I think that those who act like "my team (or tennis player, whatever) is God's greatest gift to the world" go beyond that. Sort of like the cheeseheads in Green Bay, the "dogs" in Cleveland, the barechested guys with the team's colors painted on, etc.

Its sort of like the Annamania that there used 2B here, where you'd have Frank Riley using the following circular reasoning: "I love Anna Kournikova". (Why?) "Because she made me love tennis." (How did she do that?) "Because I love Anna Kournikova" and so on, in a sort of loop.

Notice that I never bust on Denise, though she loves the same NFL team you do. While she's a fiercely loyal fan, she's not obsessive about it. In other words, it doesn't seem like her world revolves around a football team and one that plays rugby, etc.

You say you "get it" and then all your examples clearly point in the opposite direction as does your ultimate conclusion...

...what a dope. :haha:

You need to go back to your archives and re-read all that research you have in the Kiwifan file :nerner: if you think my world revolves around the World's Greatest Football Team and the World's Greatest Rugby Team.

You see, if you're obsessed with the achievement of others, you lose when they lose and I'm sure you're familiar with one important factoid about myself and a couple of posters past...

...I'm always on the winning side -http://www.retroradionetwork.com/forums/images/smilies/car-smiley-003.gif top down, chrome spinning - DNT!!! :cool:

:topic: everyone else please ignore the following, it is just for JR :devil:

Let us not forget who's life, style & lifestyle had the whole world of wta thinking the J stood for "Jealous"; and it has only gotten bigger and better since the Good Ole Days. Spent Christmas Eve with drinking beer with TV and Movie Stars not as a fan - as a peer. Spent New Years Day watching the Rose Bowl in the home of one of People/Maxim/Stuff Magazine's "Most Beautiful Women"...

...The economy may have taken some of my Madd Chedd, But I Still Have Mad Cred. :lol: :smoke:

doni1212
Jan 6th, 2009, 03:03 AM
Favre please retire.
Dungy please retire.
Peyton Manning is as overrated as Tim Tebow.

And the Broncos will never have a better coach than Mike Shanahan.

And although I like Chad Pennington, doesn't it feel good to see him laying on his stomach time and time again.
He's like that dork with the beat me up sign on him that he just doesn't know about.

Hey, hey, hey!! Don't talk about Tony Dungy like that, :sad:
And it was absolutely hilarious to watch Pennington keep getting sacked over and over!! By the 2nd interception he threw, I swear I was tearing up laughing. When he threw that 4th one, my stomach was in sooooooooo much pain from laughing so hard! :rolls: :rolls: :rolls: :haha:

If you don't like the way Pennsylvania roots on its teams then you know what...

Get the fuck out. :lol:


PA Representin!!! I'm telling you it'll be a Steelers-Eagles Superbowl!

WRONG AGAIN.

We should just play the opposite game with you.

Let's start:

TO doesn't break apart teams.
Romo plays great when the game on the line.
The Cowboys deserve a new stadium.

I truly missed you around here, :rolls:

kris719
Jan 6th, 2009, 05:20 AM
damn kiwifan doesn't know the cowboys lost yet?

Wannabeknowitall
Jan 6th, 2009, 05:56 AM
For all your general douche baggedness, at least you "get it"; well other than the meaning of opposite apparently. :lol:

Now allow me to correct your usually dopey statements since all your opposites were actually statements of fact (well the Romo one :tape: :tape: :tape: )

TO is awesome, he only breaks up weak ass teams like the Fleagles and Niners.

Romo will be awesome, next year.

G-d deserves a new stadium to watch his Cowboys play in.

I guess the Fleagles lucky ass play has raised your spirits. :angel:

Worst problem for me is that I prefer McNabb to the stupid ass Giants so next week is a nice shit sandwich; my only hope is the Panthers saving this season on the NFC side by slaying all my enemies. ;)

I don't dislike any AFC team so whoever they are, please win the Super Bowl!!! :yeah:

TO is awesome but once Roy Williams gets to know the plays, we all know TO will be replaced.

Be realistic and actually get one of these quarterbacks as a draft pick, that is if they're still around with whatever picks you have this year.
Romo is not to be depended on, unless you're homeless which considering your shady investments in the last few years, might be the case.

I thought God didn't like ugly and considering your team is just that lately, well for the last decade, you Cowboy fans must be worshipping a false one.

BTW, just because you were here and there Christmas Eve and Christmas doesn't make you God's gift to man.
I'll give you a hint.
Even bimbos know when a security blanket is just waiting to be open.
Ask fellow Eagle wide receiver Hank Baskett. :tape:

kiwifan
Jan 6th, 2009, 07:59 AM
TO is awesome but once Roy Williams gets to know the plays, we all know TO will be replaced.

Be realistic and actually get one of these quarterbacks as a draft pick, that is if they're still around with whatever picks you have this year.
Romo is not to be depended on, unless you're homeless which considering your shady investments in the last few years, might be the case.

I thought God didn't like ugly and considering your team is just that lately, well for the last decade, you Cowboy fans must be worshipping a false one.

BTW, just because you were here and there Christmas Eve and Christmas doesn't make you God's gift to man.
I'll give you a hint.
Even bimbos know when a security blanket is just waiting to be open.
Ask fellow Eagle wide receiver Hank Baskett. :tape:

I've met Kendra and Hank's actually getting a sweet kid (yes, uneducated, unrefined, but beneath the boobs a sweet kid).

[edit] I forgot to add, G-d would get bored if his team won all the time, sort of like how he made his favorite people go through all kinds of trials and tribulations. :p

I ain't saying I'm G-d's gift (although I used to be :tape: ), I'm just living the dream (could use 4 times my current salary to "live it right"; I have friends with "Madoff money", but I'm not even close); just pointing out to the other guy 'oh so obsessed with me' that he knows better than to claim I'm sitting around obsessed with the Dallas Cowboys. I'm much more obsessed with my fading Rugby and Soccer skills and my wonderful tennis game. The thing with the New Zealand All Blacks and the Dallas Cowboys is that...

...I JUST LOVE THEM!!! :inlove:

I say give Romo two more years before you need to challenge him. His game last season was stellar, he was moving around and finding open guys both downfield and as check down targets. He did regress this season but I'm hoping it was all about playing with multiple injuries. The Boys would be better served picking up another experienced vet type who washed out with another team. Unless of course one of these Big 12 guys drops into the third round (or pick Tebow in the 5th).

OK, bedtime for Bonzo! :zzz:

Wannabeknowitall
Jan 6th, 2009, 08:37 AM
I've met Kendra and Hank's actually getting a sweet kid (yes, uneducated, unrefined, but beneath the boobs a sweet kid).

[edit] I forgot to add, G-d would get bored if his team won all the time, sort of like how he made his favorite people go through all kinds of trials and tribulations. :p

I ain't saying I'm G-d's gift (although I used to be :tape: ), I'm just living the dream (could use 4 times my current salary to "live it right"; I have friends with "Madoff money", but I'm not even close); just pointing out to the other guy 'oh so obsessed with me' that he knows better than to claim I'm sitting around obsessed with the Dallas Cowboys. I'm much more obsessed with my fading Rugby and Soccer skills and my wonderful tennis game. The thing with the New Zealand All Blacks and the Dallas Cowboys is that...

...I JUST LOVE THEM!!! :inlove:

I say give Romo two more years before you need to challenge him. His game last season was stellar, he was moving around and finding open guys both downfield and as check down targets. He did regress this season but I'm hoping it was all about playing with multiple injuries. The Boys would be better served picking up another experienced vet type who washed out with another team. Unless of course one of these Big 12 guys drops into the third round (or pick Tebow in the 5th).

OK, bedtime for Bonzo! :zzz:

More ego talking I see.
Somehow you continue to talk about yourself in an NFL thread.
Notice even the banter pertaining to you from me still has some NFL reference.
Well I hope it takes the Cowboys 40 years to get back to the promised land since we're sharing "Bible context".

I just love the eye tests you give by the way.
Take a hint from the Yankees.
If you have the money to make a run now then do it.
Stop with this idea of getting washed up stiff moving veteran quarterbacks as backups.
It didn't work with Bledsoe. It didn't work with the one you had this year.

The new seats are not going to be occupied with a team that can't win a playoff game.

I would rather depend on Joe Flacco who has actually won a playoff game (even with awful stats) than Tony Romo.
And to consider overrated Tim Tebow, as a backup for Tony Romo, is just asking for trouble.

kiwifan
Jan 6th, 2009, 07:59 PM
More ego talking I see.
Somehow you continue to talk about yourself in an NFL thread.
Notice even the banter pertaining to you from me still has some NFL reference.
Well I hope it takes the Cowboys 40 years to get back to the promised land since we're sharing "Bible context".

I just love the eye tests you give by the way.
Take a hint from the Yankees.
If you have the money to make a run now then do it.
Stop with this idea of getting washed up stiff moving veteran quarterbacks as backups.
It didn't work with Bledsoe. It didn't work with the one you had this year.

The new seats are not going to be occupied with a team that can't win a playoff game.

I would rather depend on Joe Flacco who has actually won a playoff game (even with awful stats) than Tony Romo.
And to consider overrated Tim Tebow, as a backup for Tony Romo, is just asking for trouble.

I'm responding to you talking about me, douchebag. We both know you're my "Number 2 Stalker". :lol:

If I wasn't also talking about football why are you answering all my football related responses? :scratch:

Nice try though. :tape:

:smoke:

*JR*
Jan 6th, 2009, 09:16 PM
I'm responding to you talking about me, douchebag. We both know you're my "Number 2 Stalker". :lol:

If I wasn't also talking about football why are you answering all my football related responses? :scratch:

Nice try though. :tape:

:smoke:
If I were to stalk anybody (which I wouldn't, nobody's really worth it) it certainly wouldn't be you. And re. the words quoted in bold, I'm also "guilty" of having (past tense) answered your football related points. But you've made it eminently clear that your posting in the annual NFL threads is as much about yourself as football, so no longer.

In terms of your infantile insults like "Jealous", you bore me (as does your whole WCC schtick, I don't know why I ever paid it any attention to begin with). In fact it probably bored Phil after a couple of years of trolling ppl like Riley and insulting others including me. ("Yuo" haven't seen him posting here in a few years, and he shut down carkeyboi.com.)

I won't throw rocks @ Bri, as she was nice to chat with, much as we disagreed on politics (and she'd surely be on my case bigtime in terms of my giving my fellow - only ethnic in my case - Jews in terms of the Gaza War the same grilling I used to re. the "Xtian" evangelists here, to use her term). So enjoy your facade of importance, that's all it is. :yawn:

Wannabeknowitall
Jan 6th, 2009, 10:01 PM
I'm responding to you talking about me, douchebag. We both know you're my "Number 2 Stalker". :lol:

If I wasn't also talking about football why are you answering all my football related responses? :scratch:

Nice try though. :tape:

:smoke:

You must really want/need a stalker. I guess it's that celebrity mentality you're living with.
I guess it rubs off with the amount of celebrities you know.

Considering you rarely are in tennis threads and I'm rarely in the political forum, I have no contact with you besides this thread.
Half of my posts just today were not even in non-tennis.

Can't I make you understand that you're having delusions of grandeur? :lol:

Anyway I'm through accepting limits because someone tells me so.

kiwifan
Jan 6th, 2009, 10:16 PM
If I were to stalk anybody (which I wouldn't, nobody's really worth it) it certainly wouldn't be you.

You must really want/need a stalker. I guess it's that celebrity mentality you're living with.
.

So any chance you two bitches would just put me on ignore/or just simply ignore me and we can all live happily ever after? :hehehe:

I clearly O\/\/N your weak minds and there's only one way to break the grip. :devil:

"Me like the waaaaaaaaaaay Me Move...Da Da Da..." :dance:

.

Wannabeknowitall
Jan 6th, 2009, 10:29 PM
So any chance you two bitches would just put me on ignore/or just simply ignore me and we can all live happily ever after? :hehehe:

I clearly O\/\/N your weak minds and there's only one way to break the grip. :devil:

"Me like the waaaaaaaaaaay Me Move...Da Da Da..." :dance:

.

Every post you put up makes me appear saner.
At least I can tell myself I'm not an egomaniac leaving the prime of my life, looking for others to satisfy my thirst for being accepted in society in the morning. :wavey:

Being called a bitch by you is a compliment, BTW.
It means I've gotten under that leathery mantle you call skin.
By the way, they have Clinque or creams from Nordstrom for that.

Wannabeknowitall
Jan 6th, 2009, 10:39 PM
If I were to stalk anybody (which I wouldn't, nobody's really worth it) it certainly wouldn't be you. And re. the words quoted in bold, I'm also "guilty" of having (past tense) answered your football related points. But you've made it eminently clear that your posting in the annual NFL threads is as much about yourself as football, so no longer.

In terms of your infantile insults like "Jealous", you bore me (as does your whole WCC schtick, I don't know why I ever paid it any attention to begin with). In fact it probably bored Phil after a couple of years of trolling ppl like Riley and insulting others including me. ("Yuo" haven't seen him posting here in a few years, and he shut down carkeyboi.com.)

I won't throw rocks @ Bri, as she was nice to chat with, much as we disagreed on politics (and she'd surely be on my case bigtime in terms of my giving my fellow - only ethnic in my case - Jews in terms of the Gaza War the same grilling I used to re. the "Xtian" evangelists here, to use her term). So enjoy your facade of importance, that's all it is. :yawn:

Why does this sound like a good soap I missed for years? :lol:

kiwifan
Jan 6th, 2009, 11:02 PM
Why does this sound like a good soap I missed for years? :lol:

Because the "soap opera" ended in his 'mental breakdown' and his deleting all the evidence (thousands of posts, quite impressive really ;))...

...we laughed for a month and then unfortunately he returned...

...am I lying, 'Jealous'? :D

Now, back to that ignoring me thing...

...I dare you. :nerner:

*JR*
Jan 6th, 2009, 11:54 PM
Why does this sound like a good soap I missed for years? :lol:
What the self-absorbed asshole is either unaware of or ignores is that when my new account started in about May 2005 (after a 6 month hiatus) was merged @ my request with my old original one (deleted @ my requested in late '04) about a year ago, the deleted posts were restored. (That's why my post count suddenly jumped from under 10,000 to about 23,000).

That the search function only covers one's last 250 posts is obviously not something I had any role in deciding. But there are archives. The only poster in the history of the board (not counting trolls and spammers whose threads are sometimes erased instead of locked) whose posts remain deleted I believe is Deuce Diva. (Though quotes of her posts remain).

In other words, I had nothing to hide. Why Bri (DD) got hers erased is between her and the Admins. (In full disclosure, I've since deleted serious threads that got little response; and posts inappropriately flaming Peppermint Patty and Sesil Karatantcheva in their fan forums, as such are considered "refuges" for a player's fans to root for her without negative vibes.)

kiwifan
Jan 7th, 2009, 12:26 AM
So back to football. :angel:

Eagles suck but I have to root for them this weekend.

Carolina sucks but I have to root for them because I can only trust them to beat the winner of the Eagles/Giants game.

Ravens v Titans, I can't lose as long as the winner comes out with no major injuries (loves me some Ray-Ray and Ed Reed representing "The U")

Chargers are the 'home town team' (actually USC is :tape: ) and I want nothing but success for the Steelers' Head Coach...I guess I'll lean towards the Black and Gold (ice ice baby...) :shrug:

Steelers - Ravenswould probably make for the most entertaining match up and the winner will crush a Non-Dallas Cowboys- Represented NFC in the Super Bowl.

doni1212
Jan 12th, 2009, 12:13 AM
Well, well, well, :devil:

1st things first...

STEELERS!!!!!!!

And I'm happy for the Eagles and the Ravens, :bounce:
But seriously, the Cardinals?!!! :spit: :help: Come on now!!

I want the Superbowl to be Steelers vs. Eagles but I know that Baltimore is going to be really tough to beat. We can do it though, :rocker2:

CrossCourt~Rally
Jan 12th, 2009, 12:15 AM
Whoaah, what an amazing year in Football for my areas "local" teams. The Steelers, Eagles and The Ravens :worship:

I hope the Baltimore Ravens take it all! :bounce:

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 12th, 2009, 12:18 AM
Well, well, well, :devil:

1st things first...

STEELERS!!!!!!!

And I'm happy for the Eagles and the Ravens, :bounce:
But seriously, the Cardinals?!!! :spit: :help: Come on now!!

I want the Superbowl to be Steelers vs. Eagles but I know that Baltimore is going to be really tough to beat. We can do it though, :rocker2:

me too! :worship: :rocker:

but yeah, the Ravens are nervousing me right now. :scared:

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 12th, 2009, 12:19 AM
P.S. I am SO glad San Diego lost. SO GLAD.

kris719
Jan 12th, 2009, 12:35 AM
defense sputtered against a mediocre offense, 1 play in the 3rd quarter, offense playing from far behind in the first real possession of the 2nd half- that's what lost the game. i can't help but be a little dissapointed but i know the Chargers already proved a million people wrong already this year. it's further than anyone expected being 4-8 at one point. ahh well.

looking forward, pittsburgh/baltimore should be a tough game. i picked the ravens to go to the super bowl before the playoffs and i'm not laying off of that. Arizona's a complete surprise. they should win next week unless their defense reverts to form.

*JR*
Jan 12th, 2009, 01:12 AM
Well, well, well, :devil:

1st things first...

STEELERS!!!!!!!

And I'm happy for the Eagles and the Ravens, :bounce:
But seriously, the Cardinals?!!! :spit: :help: Come on now!!

I want the Superbowl to be Steelers vs. Eagles but I know that Baltimore is going to be really tough to beat. We can do it though, :rocker2:
Glad the Steelers won, but their defense got sloppy @ times. They got a gift on that pass interference call in the end zone that led to a TD, and #90 absolutely should have been flagged for a personal foul for hurling Rivers into his own end zone on that sack. Which would have given the Superchargers a first down on their own 27, instead of a 3rd and 20 from the 2, leading to a punt to midfield. Last year LT missed almost the whole AFC title game vs. the Pats, today he wasn't even active.

The Eagles showed that their defense can play with anybody. Of course the Giants not having talented headcase Plaxico Burress fucked up their passing game bigtime, inc. late in the regular season. The Ravens' defense is also all-world, the AFC title game will be a war likely decided by a few big plays or mistakes. Jake Delhomme's 5 INT's gave the Cards the upset ova his Panthers.

Here's an interesting twist. After Kurt Warner's glory days with the Rams (title 10 years ago with RB Marshall Faulk, dome team nicknamed "The Greatest Show On Turf") he went to the Giants and had to say in his last year starting in Nooo Joisy: the Giants quarterback of the future is Eli Manning. (True, but Peyton's kid brother wasn't the one of this pair who'll be playing next Sunday.)

BTW Doni, whatever happened to "America's Team"? :tape:

doni1212
Jan 12th, 2009, 02:11 AM
Glad the Steelers won, but their defense got sloppy @ times. They got a gift on that pass interference call in the end zone that led to a TD, and #90 absolutely should have been flagged for a personal foul for hurling Rivers into his own end zone on that sack. Which would have given the Superchargers a first down on their own 27, instead of a 3rd and 20 from the 2, leading to a punt to midfield. Last year LT missed almost the whole AFC title game vs. the Pats, today he wasn't even active.

The Eagles showed that their defense can play with anybody. Of course the Giants not having talented headcase Plaxico Burress fucked up their passing game bigtime, inc. late in the regular season. The Ravens' defense is also all-world, the AFC title game will be a war likely decided by a few big plays or mistakes. Jake Delhomme's 5 INT's gave the Cards the upset ova his Panthers.

Here's an interesting twist. After Kurt Warner's glory days with the Rams (title 10 years ago with RB Marshall Faulk, dome team nicknamed "The Greatest Show On Turf") he went to the Giants and had to say in his last year starting in Nooo Joisy: the Giants quarterback of the future is Eli Manning. (True, but Peyton's kid brother wasn't the one of this pair who'll be playing next Sunday.)

BTW Doni, whatever happened to "America's Team"? :tape:

Yeah, but I'm sure our defense will be on fire next week considering all the hate b/w them and the Ravens. Whoever wins though, I'll definitely be cheering for the AFC team in the Superbowl, no doubts about that. I seriously feel like the AFC Championship will be the game of the year and much better than the actual Superbowl.

Oh and the Cowboys? I called that so long ago. They controlled their own destiny many times and couldn't even "win in". Pathetic really. Guess Donovan gets the last laugh again, :lol:

kiwifan
Jan 14th, 2009, 07:33 PM
So sick of hearing about McNabb's benching making him a better player. :yawn:

The only thing his benching accomplished was showing the Eagles that they didn't have a back up QB so they better shut the f*ck up and let McNabb play...

...Go CARDS!!! :o

doni1212
Jan 14th, 2009, 07:40 PM
So sick of hearing about McNabb's benching making him a better player. :yawn:

The only thing his benching accomplished was showing the Eagles that they didn't have a back up QB so they better shut the f*ck up and let McNabb play...

...Go CARDS!!! :o

I hate how all those people in Philly were hating on him and now all of a sudden they looooooooovvvvveeeeeeee McNabb, :rolleyes:
It pisses me off so much!! He need to denounce them lame ass fans.
You're either a ride or die or a fake and that's what those Philly fans are...Fakes!

*JR*
Jan 14th, 2009, 08:12 PM
I hate how all those people in Philly were hating on him and now all of a sudden they looooooooovvvvveeeeeeee McNabb, :rolleyes:
It pisses me off so much!! He need to denounce them lame ass fans.
You're either a ride or die or a fake and that's what those Philly fans are...Fakes!
Why should QB's in general not sit out a series or two now and then like anybody else, unless the backup sucks like in Philly or Dallas? Brad Johnson is washed up, but a young guy like Kevin Kolb may get better with a little playing time. And some backup QB's, like the Steelers' Byron Leftwich (the starter for a few years in Jacksonville) are pretty good when they get a chance to play.

doni1212
Jan 14th, 2009, 09:10 PM
Why should QB's in general not sit out a series or two now and then like anybody else, unless the backup sucks like in Philly or Dallas? Brad Johnson is washed up, but a young guy like Kevin Kolb may get better with a little playing time. And some backup QB's, like the Steelers' Byron Leftwich (the starter for a few years in Jacksonville) are pretty good when they get a chance to play.

Oh, believe me, I know how good Byron is. And I'd love for him to get more opportunities to play. I'm just saying that the Philly fans suck for bashing their QB and then all of a sudden praising him, that's all.

kiwifan
Jan 19th, 2009, 01:59 AM
...Go CARDS!!! :o

:devil:


:dance:

doni1212
Jan 19th, 2009, 02:12 AM
:devil:


:dance:

I can't believe that the lame ass Cardinals made it to the Superbowl, :rolleyes:
We are 1:56 seconds away from meeting them there!!! :sobbing: :banana: :woohoo: :worship: :sobbing:

Hopefully all is well with McGahey, :sad: :hug:

doni1212
Jan 19th, 2009, 02:24 AM
Pittsburgh!!!!!!!!! Home Town And Base City For Me!!! Steelers Are Winning In Two Weeks!! Let's Go!!!!!!



:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 19th, 2009, 02:58 AM
Eagles :sobbing: :sad:

Steelers :bounce::worship: :woohoo::bigclap:

McNabb :hug:

Tomlin :hearts:

kris719
Jan 19th, 2009, 04:21 AM
Arizona domination. hope they can keep it up next week.

that was a tough hit on McGahee, both guys took it pretty badly. He seems to be fine though.

SOA_MC
Jan 19th, 2009, 03:17 PM
WTF Eagles :(

Happy I decided to sleep through till the AO and not watch us lose the Cards :(

Seriously Arizona Superbowl WTF :rolleyes:

*JR*
Jan 19th, 2009, 04:32 PM
Donovan picked a bad day to be throwing a yard or two off target a lot. (And a few drops on good passes hurt him too, or the receivers had to stop and couldn't run after the catch.) I don't know where the hell the running game went. :confused: Good comeback with 3 TD's to take a 1 point lead in the 2nd half, and there was enough pass interference on his 4th and 10 throw inside 2 minutes to go to flag for a first down across the 50, though it wasn't a mugging.

Good job by the Steelers in covering the Ravens' wideouts most of the time, and stuffing the running game. And the 2nd generation Suissie (Roethlisberger) made the key throws he had to down the stretch, even with a banged up Hines Ward on the bench. Two great plays by all-world Steelers safety Troy Polamalu. One was the interception and crossfield return for a TD to basically seal it late. The other was sensing the bootleg by Joe Flacco and nailing him for a big loss.

Troy was the defensive player of the day IMO, and on offense it was Cards RB Larry Fitzgerald, who scored 3 TD's including a 62 yarder. Kudos to coach Mike Tomlin, youngest ever to take a team to the Super Bowl @ 35. And to Cards QB Kurt Warner, @ 37 maybe the oldest if he's healthy and starts.

Also kudos to Doni :yeah: for tempering her first celebration post last night with a :hug: for the Ravens' Willis McGahey, who will fortunately be OK after that big hit got him carted off after a long delay late in the game. I can think of other (singular) poster whose first thought expressed would likely have been that an opposing player having the ball jarred lose for a fumble sealed a team's win.

Srodgers
Jan 19th, 2009, 10:37 PM
Go Steelersss!!!

Sally Struthers
Feb 2nd, 2009, 02:11 AM
omg what a choke job by the cardinal's defense! Even if they dindt' win Warner should be superbowl mvp :fiery:

mckyle.
Feb 2nd, 2009, 02:12 AM
Ugh :rolleyes:

doni1212
Feb 2nd, 2009, 02:13 AM
PITTSBURGH STEELERS!!!!!!!!!! HISTORY!!! 1ST TIME ANY TEAM HAS WON 6 SUPERBOWLS!!!!! LOVE YOU GUYS!!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
MIKE TOMLIN :worship: :worship: :worship:

doni1212
Feb 2nd, 2009, 02:14 AM
omg what a choke job by the cardinal's defense! Even if they dindt' win Warner should be superbowl mvp :fiery:

Naw, it should go to James Harrison or Santonio Holmes. I want Holmes to get it!

Sally Struthers
Feb 2nd, 2009, 02:21 AM
the game was pretty boring till the last quarter. The commercials were horrible as they have been in recent years... Jennifer Hudson was fabulous. If Madden kisses the steelers' collective asses one more time he can go choke on his Frankenstein turkey he used to do around Thanksgiving.

CrossCourt~Rally
Feb 2nd, 2009, 02:22 AM
:worship:CONGRATS STEELERS!!! :worship:

Jennifer was awesome :hearts: and Bruce put on a pretty good show. I had no idea he was 59!:worship:

kiwifan
Feb 2nd, 2009, 02:22 AM
Obviously, I'm not a Steeler Fan. But I'm so happy for Coach Tomlin and also for every Coach who's going to get a much more serious look in job interviews, thanks to the Rooney Rule.

Rooney Rule alone makes this a serious Karma win for the Steeler's Organization.

Now that all that karma and goodwill towards Tomlin is out of the way...

...next season can't come fast enough for America and God's Team - The Dallas Cowboys - "Next Year's Champion"

http://www.amazon.com/Next-Years-Champions-Dallas-Cowboys/dp/B0006CF6MO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233544896&sr=8-1 :nerner:

Srodgers
Feb 2nd, 2009, 02:23 AM
Wow people in Pittsburgh are going insane!
Its unbelievable!

HRHoliviasmith
Feb 2nd, 2009, 02:24 AM
obama, serena, the stillers...what a year!!!!! :bowdown: :woohoo:

tomlin :hearts:

comfortably.numb
Feb 2nd, 2009, 02:24 AM
Hudson was incredible. The best part of the shitty pre-game festivities and the first 3 quarters in my opinion. The fourth quarter was good. Finally got exciting. Was rooting for Arizona but congrats to the Steelers.

Rocketta
Feb 2nd, 2009, 02:25 AM
omg what a choke job by the cardinal's defense! Even if they dindt' win Warner should be superbowl mvp :fiery:

Not true... I mean Pittsburgh was choking all those touchdowns they missed and then the safety and the penalties (although that safety was a shite call)... Pittsburgh was choking until they realized they were about to lose.

Sally Struthers
Feb 2nd, 2009, 02:26 AM
Not true... I mean Pittsburgh was choking all those touchdowns they missed and then the safety and the penalties (although that safety was a shite call)... Pittsburgh was choking until they realized they were about to lose.

I'ts only choking if you end up losing. Otherwise it's a hiccup :o

HRHoliviasmith
Feb 2nd, 2009, 02:26 AM
Obviously, I'm not a Steeler Fan. But I'm so happy for Coach Tomlin and also for every Coach who's going to get a much more serious look in job interviews, thanks to the Rooney Rule.

Rooney Rule alone makes this a serious Karma win for the Steeler's Organization.

Now that all that karma and goodwill towards Tomlin is out of the way...
...next season can't come fast enough for America and God's Team - The Dallas Cowboys - "Next Year's Champion"

http://www.amazon.com/Next-Years-Champions-Dallas-Cowboys/dp/B0006CF6MO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233544896&sr=8-1 :nerner:

exaaactly!!!!! :worship:

i'm torn over that Rooney Rule though.

Rocketta
Feb 2nd, 2009, 02:27 AM
Oh and Jennifer was fabulous! :hearts:

Rocketta
Feb 2nd, 2009, 02:29 AM
I'ts only choking if you end up losing. Otherwise it's a hiccup :o

yeah but it can only be a choke if you play below your level and well Arizona was playing above their level. :o

doni1212
Feb 2nd, 2009, 02:30 AM
Naw, it should go to James Harrison or Santonio Holmes. I want Holmes to get it!

I got my wish!! :banana:

the game was pretty boring till the last quarter. The commercials were horrible as they have been in recent years... Jennifer Hudson was fabulous. If Madden kisses the steelers' collective asses one more time he can go choke on his Frankenstein turkey he used to do around Thanksgiving.

Yes, Jennifer Hudson was amazing!! :worship:

Obviously, I'm not a Steeler Fan. But I'm so happy for Coach Tomlin and also for every Coach who's going to get a much more serious look in job interviews, thanks to the Rooney Rule.

Rooney Rule alone makes this a serious Karma win for the Steeler's Organization.

Now that all that karma and goodwill towards Tomlin is out of the way...

...next season can't come fast enough for America and God's Team - The Dallas Cowboys - "Next Year's Champion"

http://www.amazon.com/Next-Years-Champions-Dallas-Cowboys/dp/B0006CF6MO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233544896&sr=8-1 :nerner:

:rolls:
At least you're consistent, :lol:

Wow people in Pittsburgh are going insane!
Its unbelievable!

Yes we are!! Are you in Pittsburgh right now or did you just see it on TV?

Rocketta
Feb 2nd, 2009, 02:31 AM
Obviously, I'm not a Steeler Fan. But I'm so happy for Coach Tomlin and also for every Coach who's going to get a much more serious look in job interviews, thanks to the Rooney Rule.

Rooney Rule alone makes this a serious Karma win for the Steeler's Organization.

Now that all that karma and goodwill towards Tomlin is out of the way...

...next season can't come fast enough for America and God's Team - The Dallas Cowboys - "Next Year's Champion"

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dream on buddy...... Steelers all the way after they sure up that offensive line some more. :rocker2:

kiwifan
Feb 2nd, 2009, 02:33 AM
exaaactly!!!!! :worship:

i'm torn over that Rooney Rule though.

Not to belabor the point but look at college football. All the Rooney Rule says is you have to "talk" not hire, just take a little time out to "talk"...

...heaven knows that if they didn't have to talk most teams flat out wouldn't...

...they might not be bad people, but "talking" just might not have ever occurred to most franchises without the Rooney Rule.

Obviously since the Rooney family introduced the Rule they probably would have "talked" without it - but quite honestly, I'm glad things worked out exactly the way they did for Coach Tomlin. :angel: :angel: :angel: I really should have talked to him in college :devil: