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ZeroSOFInfinity
Aug 9th, 2008, 01:17 PM
Maria is not there. Davenport withdrew. So did Tati. And (maybe soon to be) Jelena :scared:

Hope there are no more withdrawals... or else, the prestige of this tournament will diminish badly.... even the organizers are having a headache who to replace the withdrawn players.... :tape::help:

jimbo mack
Aug 9th, 2008, 01:33 PM
i think a lot of these players were being unrealistic about their injuries and should never have made the trip to beijing

i hope there are no more :(

A Magicman
Aug 9th, 2008, 01:35 PM
i think a lot of these players were being unrealistic about their injuries and should never have made the trip to beijing

i hope there are no more :(

I do. Greta Arn is #4 Alt ;)

Optima
Aug 9th, 2008, 01:36 PM
I never thought Jelena should have came in the first place.

Natalicious
Aug 9th, 2008, 01:50 PM
health > olympics i guess :shrug:

kaktusino
Aug 9th, 2008, 02:12 PM
Because of the difficult weather conditions. A lot of players said that it's too difficult to play in Beijing.

sammy01
Aug 9th, 2008, 02:13 PM
1. its not a slam
2. its right before a slam

this is why when people say the olympics is n par with a slam their wrong. if you asked most players wether they would want to be fit for the US open or olympics, im sure most would say US open.

Slumpsova
Aug 9th, 2008, 02:14 PM
they are disrespectful :o

this is the problem when you try to pursue the sports stars into this kinda competition. they don't know about the meaning of the games, they don't even care. while the Olympics mean the world to other amateur players, all this stars think is only themself, like if they will have a chance to win a medal or how much attention they will get from a media. it's just sad and disgusting.

for the tennis players, i highly doubt how many players give a damn if tennis in the Olympics has no points to collect.

Slutiana
Aug 9th, 2008, 02:20 PM
they are all (apart from Tati) disrespectful :o

this is the problem when you try to pursue the sports stars into this kinda competition. they don't know about the meaning of the games, they don't even care. while the Olympics mean the world to other amateur players, all this stars think is only themself, like if they will have a chance to win a medal or how much attention they will get from a media. it's just sad and disgusting.

for the tennis players, i highly doubt how many players give a damn if tennis in the Olympics has no points to collect.
That's better. ;)


Tati loves the Olympics. :angel: Same with Lindsay...

mr_burns
Aug 9th, 2008, 02:50 PM
because they love olympics they waited until last minute if they can play

all player who withdrew lately haven't bee on court for a while, so i don't blame them

It has to be serious

ce
Aug 9th, 2008, 03:01 PM
because China wants a medal :shrug:

Alenyaa
Aug 9th, 2008, 03:09 PM
Oh , I love being the Devil's advocate... Could it have something to do with the third generation of doping being so easily detectable? :devil:

aussie_fan
Aug 9th, 2008, 03:12 PM
they are disrespectful :o

this is the problem when you try to pursue the sports stars into this kinda competition. they don't know about the meaning of the games, they don't even care. while the Olympics mean the world to other amateur players, all this stars think is only themself, like if they will have a chance to win a medal or how much attention they will get from a media. it's just sad and disgusting.

for the tennis players, i highly doubt how many players give a damn if tennis in the Olympics has no points to collect.

oh dear, they play around the world for a lot of time during the year, players will come down with injuries and can't help it, it's espically hard when they have to travel half away around the world as well, and with a slam in just two weeks, of course they don't want to cause any damage. it doesn't mean disrespectful, geez. :rolleyes:

hablo
Aug 9th, 2008, 03:29 PM
i think a lot of these players were being unrealistic about their injuries and should never have made the trip to beijing


I agree.

Too bad for the players who would have love to replace them.
Oh , I love being the Devil's advocate... Could it have something to do with the third generation of doping being so easily detectable? :devil:

:rolls::tape:

Slumpsova
Aug 9th, 2008, 03:33 PM
oh dear, they play around the world for a lot of time during the year, players will come down with injuries and can't help it, it's espically hard when they have to travel half away around the world as well, and with a slam in just two weeks, of course they don't want to cause any damage. it doesn't mean disrespectful, geez. :rolleyes:
geez don't try to find some stupid excuses. they can pull out of the tournament before, not after the draw has been announced :weirdo: i don't buy it if you claimed they didn't know what's wrong with them until the games has started. i'll buy some but not all of them.

as i said for most of the athletes at Beijing, this game is important for them. they would never just fly there and decided to throw a towel in the last minutes like some of the tennis stars are about to do, which i call it disrespectful.

XaDavK_Kapri
Aug 9th, 2008, 03:38 PM
I do. Greta Arn is #4 Alt ;)
When did she switch countries btw, I was wondering.

Julian
Aug 9th, 2008, 03:38 PM
Im sad too. I believe that these players really just wanted to be part of the olympics, but physically they werent able to. :(

I think that with the case of Lindsday, Tati and possibly Jelena..they all were possibly hiding or denying the fact that they really are injured but just could not refuse to take part in the games.

Volcana
Aug 9th, 2008, 04:16 PM
No one is going to risk their chances at a slam to win the Olympics. No, that's not right. None of the TOP players are going to risk a chance at winning a slam just to win the Olympics, except maybe Serena.

terjw
Aug 9th, 2008, 04:16 PM
Im sad too. I believe that these players really just wanted to be part of the olympics, but physically they werent able to. :(

I think that with the case of Lindsday, Tati and possibly Jelena..they all were possibly hiding or denying the fact that they really are injured but just could not refuse to take part in the games.

geez don't try to find some stupid excuses. they can pull out of the tournament before, not after the draw has been announced :weirdo: i don't buy it if you claimed they didn't know what's wrong with them until the games has started. i'll buy some but not all of them.

as i said for most of the athletes at Beijing, this game is important for them. they would never just fly there and decided to throw a towel in the last minutes like some of the tennis stars are about to do, which i call it disrespectful.

Maria withdrew some time back as soon as she knew she wouldn't be able to play.

Jelena played in LA and Canada and was getting back after her injury at Wimbledon. She said she was pain free then. And then she gets this calf injury - in training - what yesterday or the day before. So if she withdraws - it will be after the draw. To those who say she should withdraw earlier - what is she a claivoyant and knows she'll get this injury yesterday or the day before?

The Olympics means the world to her and why should she refuse to take part in the games when she had every intention of playing. It's just bad luck for her with yet another injury.

Lindsay and Tati didn't pick up new injuries and they were trying to recover from injuries. It was no secret they had injuries. And so long as everyone knows the situation and that they might not make it in time - it's an indication how much they valued the Olympics that they thought there could be a chance of being better in time and making their decision as late as possible.

I don't think any of these players has disrespected the Olympics.

barboza
Aug 9th, 2008, 04:22 PM
I won't be surprised if they ran out of alternates... haha.

In The Zone
Aug 9th, 2008, 07:36 PM
This is going to be the pessimist in me, but I think some of these girls used the excuse to get the free trip to Beijing and to be involved for the experience.

Lindsay, Tatiana. Etc.

No other American could have replaced Lindsay so that's okay, but in Tati's case, Rezai could have played. Shame.

starin
Aug 9th, 2008, 07:56 PM
No one is going to risk their chances at a slam to win the Olympics. No, that's not right. None of the TOP players are going to risk a chance at winning a slam just to win the Olympics, except maybe Serena.

Well for Serena it's the only thing really missing from her career. She's won everything else.
But having said I'm not sure she would take a gold medal over winning another slam.

For different players the olympics means different things. Some obviously don't take it as seriously while others do. leads to some interesting results which is always fun. Although women have always played to form, maybe this year that changes, and someone like Na Li could win gold.

karimcartoon
Aug 9th, 2008, 08:03 PM
Because some players are sissies and don't know how to suck it up and keep a "don't give up attitude" You ever wonder why Serena won AUS open 2007? She's tough. I'm not like a huge william sisters fan but they showed some heart. Also justine henin is an example. Too many players just care about their endorsement deals and superficial stuff to suck it up. I'm not saying that all of them have serious injuries but i mean come on, its the olympics. Once every 4 years.

starin
Aug 9th, 2008, 08:06 PM
also, if this were a team event withdrawals wouldn't be as detrimental to the games and players would be less inclined to withdraw and more inclined to play. Because w/ a team they maybe only have to play like 4 singles matches, and if a player is not 100% fit they could play the important matches or only play mixed doubles or something. This would get more players involved in olympic tennis and keep olympic tennis from affecting the top players for the USO.

hingisGOAT
Aug 9th, 2008, 08:17 PM
I agree that these players are very disrespectful... I thought the Olympics celebrated the most fit, warrior-like athletes on the planet -- not this brittle mess of "stars" that sit atop the ranking system and treat the Games like some Tier IV in Memphis! What is worse is that so many girls would love to be in their place. PATHETIC! This behavior should be regulated with some seriously heavy-handed fines and penalties.


Anyway, more than any other tournament I'm hoping that the lower-ranked players that truly appreciate their place in the draw pick off the top seeds one by one :devil:

AcesHigh
Aug 9th, 2008, 09:25 PM
Some here need to STFU b/c they never have been in a situation similar to these players. This chance doesnt come around too often. Only every 4 YEARS!! None of these players knows where they will be in 2012, or if they'll even be on tour.

So they give it their all and they try their best to recover and to be healthy in time, but sometimes they cant.. and they have to withdraw. Blame them for trying to play in an even that means something to them?? :weirdo: It's not disrespectful at all. Tennis is an individual sport and that does not change with the Olympics. As much of this national spirit talk there is, these players are really doing it for themselves.

I'm happy Lindsay gave it her best shot and I'm happy she pulled out to prevent further injury. I know I'd be pissed if I were Lindsay and withdrew early only to find out I recovered in time to play.

terjw
Aug 9th, 2008, 09:34 PM
Because some players are sissies and don't know how to suck it up and keep a "don't give up attitude" You ever wonder why Serena won AUS open 2007? She's tough. I'm not like a huge william sisters fan but they showed some heart. Also justine henin is an example. Too many players just care about their endorsement deals and superficial stuff to suck it up. I'm not saying that all of them have serious injuries but i mean come on, its the olympics. Once every 4 years.

What - the tough Serena who pulls out of tournaments at the last minute for no reason more than anyone else and has record fines as a result. And who retires when she's losing a match.

frontier
Aug 9th, 2008, 09:40 PM
Jelena and Ana are playing a cat and mouse game,if jj withdraws Ana will also withdraw....what a bunch of sissies.I dont think these girls are strong enough to be no.1 on tour...this silliness has to stop its either you play or withdraw and go home.

crazillo
Aug 9th, 2008, 09:41 PM
Magicman, it is very unsportmanslike if you HOPE for withdrawals so that your fave can get into singles. It happens or not, but u shouldn't wish injuries to anyone. Afterall, Arn could have played better to earn the spot herself. :rolleyes:

AcesHigh
Aug 9th, 2008, 10:09 PM
Jelena and Ana are playing a cat and mouse game,if jj withdraws Ana will also withdraw....what a bunch of sissies.I dont think these girls are strong enough to be no.1 on tour...this silliness has to stop its either you play or withdraw and go home.

:spit: This coming from a WS fan???? :rolls:

karimcartoon
Aug 10th, 2008, 03:56 AM
What - the tough Serena who pulls out of tournaments at the last minute for no reason more than anyone else and has record fines as a result. And who retires when she's losing a match.

Good point but she never does it out of the big tournaments. Wimbledon last year is an example. Justine is a little shaky i'll have to say but she has a lot of physical issues.

FoxyliciousKhat
Aug 10th, 2008, 04:08 AM
What - the tough Serena who pulls out of tournaments at the last minute for no reason more than anyone else and has record fines as a result. And who retires when she's losing a match.

How do you know she pulls out of tournaments for no reason? Are you one of her body parts? Just because she does not call the trainer on court every match ten times a match with an injuries does not make hers any less believable than others. And how do you know it's a last minute pull out? Do you work at the office of the tournaments? And pray tell the number of times Serena has retired when losing a match? She sure did not have to do it down 1/5 against you know who!

Foxy

Goai
Aug 10th, 2008, 04:19 AM
Maybe this proves that individual tennis players don't deserve the olympics. I think a tennis team event would be more deserving and appropriate.

woosey
Aug 10th, 2008, 04:33 AM
they are disrespectful :o

this is the problem when you try to pursue the sports stars into this kinda competition. they don't know about the meaning of the games, they don't even care. while the Olympics mean the world to other amateur players, all this stars think is only themself, like if they will have a chance to win a medal or how much attention they will get from a media. it's just sad and disgusting.

for the tennis players, i highly doubt how many players give a damn if tennis in the Olympics has no points to collect.

this is just a tennis issue. and on some level has nothing to do with the amateur/pro thing. these girls withdraw from tournaments constantly. they are not terribly professional. they hurt women's tennis, imo. they act like spoiled brats sometimes or at least lack an ability to professionally manage their bodies, playing, etc.

plus, tennis has never been a big olympic sport.

but look at basketball. the american team is made up of nothing but millionaire nba players who are playing on their time in the off season - nba basketball has one of the longest seasons too.

why?

it's for pride. and to let them muthas know where the best b-ballers in the world are.

aussie_fan
Aug 10th, 2008, 07:22 AM
geez don't try to find some stupid excuses. they can pull out of the tournament before, not after the draw has been announced :weirdo: i don't buy it if you claimed they didn't know what's wrong with them until the games has started. i'll buy some but not all of them.

as i said for most of the athletes at Beijing, this game is important for them. they would never just fly there and decided to throw a towel in the last minutes like some of the tennis stars are about to do, which i call it disrespectful.

Stupid excuses, maybe they are trying to hope they get fit in time but they don't, the olympics mean that much to them they would still travel halfway around the around even though they have been under an injury cloud and try to get themselves fit, sometimes it doesn't work out, you think players will go out and risk damaging their injury more if they aren't fit, what's the point.

To call them disresprectful is disgusting and some posters in here need to get a grip. :rolleyes:

terjw
Aug 10th, 2008, 08:34 AM
Good point but she never does it out of the big tournaments. Wimbledon last year is an example. Justine is a little shaky i'll have to say but she has a lot of physical issues.

Never pulls out of big tournaments???? Serena pulled out of the FO 2005 at the last minute out the blue. She pulled out FO and Wimbledom 2006 where she just entered one tournament after another and pulled out.

Olórin
Aug 10th, 2008, 08:42 AM
What - the tough Serena who pulls out of tournaments at the last minute for no reason more than anyone else and has record fines as a result. And who retires when she's losing a match. - as opposed to everyone else who retires two or three games away from winning the match

:help:

terjw
Aug 10th, 2008, 09:06 AM
How do you know she pulls out of tournaments for no reason? Are you one of her body parts? Just because she does not call the trainer on court every match ten times a match with an injuries does not make hers any less believable than others. And how do you know it's a last minute pull out? Do you work at the office of the tournaments? And pray tell the number of times Serena has retired when losing a match? She sure did not have to do it down 1/5 against you know who!

Foxy

No I don't know she wasn't injured - but she does get record fines. So she doesn't satisfy the WTA that it's a bona fide injury when she pull out. My basic point of my post was that it's a bit rich to call the players who pulled out "sissies and don't know how to suck it up and keep a "don't give up attitude" and praising Serena for being tough and showing heart when she only plays a few matches per season, is always pulling out just before and during tournaments and retiring during matches.

AnnaK_4ever
Aug 10th, 2008, 10:06 AM
Name me any other sport where athletes drop off the Olympics in the very last minute? Barring doping cases there are no such sports. Because in the real olympic sports withdrawing in the last minute means weakening your team, hurting its chances to win a medal and national coaches NEVER let their sportsmen to do it.
Only tennis players allow themselves to disappear from Olympics when their teams can't substitute them with other players.

Adaora
Aug 10th, 2008, 01:07 PM
There isn't really much monetary compensation at the Olympics compared to the slams; it is no shock that these money hungry youngsters of nowadays will care much more about the slams vs the olympics.

Slumpsova
Aug 10th, 2008, 01:26 PM
Name me any other sport where athletes drop off the Olympics in the very last minute? Barring doping cases there are no such sports. Because in the real olympic sports withdrawing in the last minute means weakening your team, hurting its chances to win a medal and national coaches NEVER let their sportsmen to do it.
Only tennis players allow themselves to disappear from Olympics when their teams can't substitute them with other players.
i have to agree with you. the point is they should know the body better than anyone. even though they are injured, they should have stepped down to let anyone who is more ready to take this opportunity.

winning medal in the olympics isn't about the atheles themself but also about the country's pride. this is ridiculously unsportsmanlike.

and :rolleyes: to the posters keep saying this is normal.

FoxyliciousKhat
Aug 10th, 2008, 02:46 PM
No I don't know she wasn't injured - but she does get record fines. So she doesn't satisfy the WTA that it's a bona fide injury when she pull out. My basic point of my post was that it's a bit rich to call the players who pulled out "sissies and don't know how to suck it up and keep a "don't give up attitude" and praising Serena for being tough and showing heart when she only plays a few matches per season, is always pulling out just before and during tournaments and retiring during matches.

I still don't get your point. I've always said I'd take Serena, Venus, Maria or whoever players injury excuse (if that what it is) if they pull out of the said tournament and don't play the next two or three consecutive weeks, over Lord I'm so injured I don't know if I'll make it through this tournament only to end it and promptly show up at the next 4 (back to back to back to back). I don't care if Serena satisfies the WTA or if she is fined it does not prove that she's not injured. And Serena only playing a few matches per season has always been by choice as we knew from day one they were never going to play in all those random places just to please us. It does not mean she's not tough and does not have heart. And I ask again how do you know she pulled out just before the tournaments? You want us to give others the benefit of the doubt but you are not giving Serena any. Maybe she felt she could have played and just like JJ was willing to try but found out she could not. Just saying what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Foxy

FoxyliciousKhat
Aug 10th, 2008, 02:48 PM
Never pulls out of big tournaments???? Serena pulled out of the FO 2005 at the last minute out the blue. She pulled out FO and Wimbledom 2006 where she just entered one tournament after another and pulled out.

Here you go again OUT OF THE BLUE! How do you know what was going on with her? And is she the first to pull out of a slam? JEEZ!

Foxy

aussie_fan
Aug 10th, 2008, 04:39 PM
My God, withdraw before events happens all the time, injuries happen, what is wrong with some people here? :rolleyes: It's happened with our australian athletics team with 3 of our main stars pulling with INJURY. I 'm sure other countries have had withdrawls.

F***ing get over it that injuries happen. None of this they know their bodies shit, players want to get themselves fit for so they can try and win a medal for their country, playing with an injury will affect them badly, lose first round and get themselves more damage, people in all sports do this. It's not f***ing disrepresectful, and it disgracfeul to suggest it. :mad:

hankqq
Aug 10th, 2008, 04:45 PM
Somewhere, the likes of Chakvetadze, Bartoli and Mauresmo are all kicking themselves for not entering the Olympics. A bronze medal for any of them wouldn't have been out of the question at this point, as these 3 are actually healthy!

hablo
Aug 10th, 2008, 04:53 PM
Somewhere, the likes of Chakvetadze, Bartoli and Mauresmo are all kicking themselves for not entering the Olympics. A bronze medal for any of them wouldn't have been out of the question at this point, as these 3 are actually healthy!

More like Momo is laughing at the French Federation right now. :haha:

Anyhow, I just hope she doesn't waste her time playing Fed Cup anymore... Let the young-ins pull their weight from now on.

Playing Fed Cup in Japan messed up her clay and grass seasons for nothing... no consideration ! :fiery:

gotthebend
Aug 10th, 2008, 06:15 PM
Have we seen many athletes of other individual sports withdraw at the rate of tennis players?:tape:

Destiny
Aug 10th, 2008, 06:22 PM
Have we seen many athletes of other individual sports withdraw at the rate of tennis players?:tape:

Oh no you didn't:rolleyes:

Dodoboy.
Aug 10th, 2008, 06:25 PM
The whole season should be played on grass!

There would be less injuries :)

And if the ranking happen to change to benefit a certain group of players, then :shrug:

:angel:

Olórin
Aug 10th, 2008, 06:37 PM
she only plays a few matches per season, is always pulling out just before and during tournaments and retiring during matches.


Well firstly, at least she's still playing and flying the flag for women's tennis unlike certain players, regardless of how many matches she plays a year. She's actually played the last 8 slams in a row which is a record for her. So now is not the best time to criticise her commitment.

And she doesn't always retire during matches, she's done it once this year in fact. If anything she plays too much when she's injured because she wants to make the effort, she tries too hard if anything - prime example: playing three tournaments in a row last fall; we all knew she'd get injured and it was a ridiculous idea but she did it anyway because she wanted to play. We also knew WTT this year was one tournament too much, but no she wanted to play it all and thus ended up getting injured at Stanford.

Thirdly, how do you know when she is pulling out unless you are on her team. You only know when the tournament announces her withdrawal, and you can be sure that they're going to leave announcing one of the most well known tennis players in world withdrawing until as late as possible.

Sorry, but I need to defend my girl; and I think criticism of her in this thread is uncalled for. She is at the Olympics afterall and has made every effort to be healthy and fit for it.

EDIT: I know your point was that Serena isn't the best standard to use for commitment - which is sort of fair given her 2005 and 2006 seasons, except that she is really committed at the moment and I think you were a bit heavy handed with your criticism, but to each his own :shrug:

terjw
Aug 10th, 2008, 06:41 PM
Here you go again OUT OF THE BLUE! How do you know what was going on with her? And is she the first to pull out of a slam? JEEZ!

Foxy

Do you even understand what I'm answering? The claim was that she didn't pull out of big tournaments. That is clearly false.

Whether others have also pulled out is completely irrelevant to answering that. As is whether I knew what was going on with her. But in 2005 - however much you may object to me saying it - the fact is she did pull out the FO out the blue. God knows what was wrong with her. Her knee I think she said. But it was out the blue. That's the definition - last minute and took everyone by surprise. Noone had any inkling anything was up until she just pulled out a couple of days or so beforehand.

saniapower
Aug 10th, 2008, 06:45 PM
Federer & Venus will never withdraw. both need the Gold.
Maria withdrawal understandable. Russia's focus at the moment is not on winning medals but on war.
But Ana's withdrawal hurts the olympics.

Slumpsova
Aug 10th, 2008, 06:57 PM
Well firstly, at least she's still playing and flying the flag for women's tennis unlike certain players, regardless of how many matches she plays a year. She's actually played the last 8 slams in a row which is a record for her. So now is not the best time to criticise her commitment.

And she doesn't always retire during matches, she's done it once this year in fact. If anything she plays too much when she's injured because she wants to make the effort, she tries too hard if anything - prime example: playing three tournaments in a row last fall; we all knew she'd get injured and it was a ridiculous idea but she did it anyway because she wanted to play. We also knew WTT this year was one tournament too much, but no she wanted to play it all and thus ended up getting injured at Stanford.

Thirdly, how do you know when she is pulling out unless you are on her team. You only know when the tournament announces her withdrawal, and you can be sure that they're going to leave announcing one of the most well known tennis players in world withdrawing until as late as possible.

Sorry, but I need to defend my girl; and I think criticism of her in this thread is uncalled for. She is at the Olympics afterall and has made every effort to be healthy and fit for it.

EDIT: I know your point was that Serena isn't the best standard to use for commitment - which is sort of fair given her 2005 and 2006 seasons, except that she is really committed at the moment and I think you were a bit heavy handed with your criticism, but to each his own :shrug:
yes, why mentioning her? Serena is the one who plays in the olympics right now.

Expat
Aug 10th, 2008, 07:07 PM
Federer & Venus will never withdraw. both need the Gold.
Maria withdrawal understandable. Russia's focus at the moment is not on winning medals but on war.
But Ana's withdrawal hurts the olympics.wtf does russia's war have to do with maria
maria is injured and is likely out for the whole year

Dodoboy.
Aug 10th, 2008, 07:08 PM
Federer & Venus will never withdraw. both need the Gold.
Maria withdrawal understandable. Russia's focus at the moment is not on winning medals but on war.
But Ana's withdrawal hurts the olympics.

That loser Fed hasn't won gold, but Vee doesn't NEED Gold.

Serena on the other hand :)

terjw
Aug 10th, 2008, 07:11 PM
Well firstly, at least she's still playing and flying the flag for women's tennis unlike certain players, regardless of how many matches she plays a year. She's actually played the last 8 slams in a row which is a record for her. So now is not the best time to criticise her commitment.

And she doesn't always retire during matches, she's done it once this year in fact. If anything she plays too much when she's injured because she wants to make the effort, she tries too hard if anything - prime example: playing three tournaments in a row last fall; we all knew she'd get injured and it was a ridiculous idea but she did it anyway because she wanted to play. We also knew WTT this year was one tournament too much, but no she wanted to play it all and thus ended up getting injured at Stanford.

Thirdly, how do you know when she is pulling out unless you are on her team. You only know when the tournament announces her withdrawal, and you can be sure that they're going to leave announcing one of the most well known tennis players in world withdrawing until as late as possible.

Sorry, but I need to defend my girl; and I think criticism of her in this thread is uncalled for. She is at the Olympics afterall and has made every effort to be healthy and fit for it.

EDIT: I know your point was that Serena isn't the best standard to use for commitment - which is sort of fair given her 2005 and 2006 seasons, except that she is really committed at the moment and I think you were a bit heavy handed with your criticism, but to each his own :shrug:

Fair enough. If we agree on that last para. I was pretty miffed at the criticism of the players pulling out and that they should all be like her. But I think enough is enough by me on this.

Point taken about being a bit heavy handed with my criticism.

FoxyliciousKhat
Aug 10th, 2008, 07:26 PM
That loser Fed hasn't won gold, but Vee doesn't NEED Gold.

Serena on the other hand :)

You may not like Fed, but there is not need to call him a loser. He's presently the only active player with 12 Grand Slams and have won on every surface except clay. The Olympic Gold might not happen but that still does not make him a loser.

Foxy

FoxyliciousKhat
Aug 10th, 2008, 07:29 PM
Fair enough. If we agree on that last para. I was pretty miffed at the criticism of the players pulling out and that they should all be like her. But I think enough is enough by me on this.

Point taken about being a bit heavy handed with my criticism.

I would like to apologise for being harsh with you myself. I reread your posts and got where you were coming from. I'm not a fan of JJ but I believe in giving atheletes the benefit of the doubt. JJ make talk about her injuries more often than some of us care to but I try not to question whether they are legit or not because only she knows for sure.

And I ask the same of others to my faves.

Foxy

Dodoboy.
Aug 10th, 2008, 07:33 PM
You may not like Fed, but there is not need to call him a loser. He's presently the only active player with 12 Grand Slams and have won on every surface except clay. The Olympic Gold might not happen but they still does not make him a loser.

Foxy

I agree.

Olórin
Aug 10th, 2008, 07:35 PM
I agree.

:spit:

dodoboy you're the best :rolls:

Dodoboy.
Aug 10th, 2008, 07:38 PM
I do agree though, that was really :silly: thing to say!

Dodoboy.
Aug 10th, 2008, 07:41 PM
And no you're the best :lol: :angel:

Olórin
Aug 10th, 2008, 07:42 PM
And no you're the best :lol: :angel:

:devil:

I just assumed you were joking more being sarcastic with the Fed comment :p

thrust
Aug 10th, 2008, 07:49 PM
The whole season should be played on grass!

There would be less injuries :)

And if the ranking happen to change to benefit a certain group of players, then :shrug:

:angel:

AND CLAY both red and green! Definitely less on hard courts.