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StarDuvallGrant
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:05 AM
http://www.nbcolympics.com/tennis/news/newsid=182922.html#davenport+olympic+singles

Posted Thursday, August 7, 2008 10:50 PM ET
BEIJING (AP) -- Lindsay Davenport withdrew from singles at the Olympics on Friday because of a lingering knee injury that has sidelined her since late June.

Davenport still hopes to play doubles with U.S. teammate Liezel Huber. The tournament begins Sunday.

The 32-year-old Davenport returned to the women's tour last year after becoming a mother, and her comeback was motivated in large part by a desire to play at Beijing. She won the gold medal in singles at Atlanta in 1996, and her father played volleyball at the 1968 Olympics.

Hours before withdrawing, Davenport attended a news conference for the U.S. tennis team and said her right knee was still a concern.

"I've been resting it since hurting it at Wimbledon for the purpose of being here and being able to do my best," she said. "For me it's a thrill to be back no matter what happens. It's the Olympics."

Davenport hasn't played since winning her opening match at Wimbledon, where she withdrew before the second round.

barboza
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:06 AM
Oh my god. You're kidding me right...........

schorsch
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:08 AM
who takes her place?

barboza
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:08 AM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/olympics/2008/08/08/davenport.withdraws.ap/?eref=sircrc

In The Zone
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:08 AM
Omg. I want to cry.

young_gunner913
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:08 AM
:o Horrible. Wasn't this the main reason she came back? Who will take her place?

Dave.
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:10 AM
I can't believe this :o This means a successful doubles campaign is out of the question too :sad: This stupid injury just had to happen and mess up the entire comeback. :( :( :( :mad: :fiery: :o

barboza
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:10 AM
Has this got to be the worst Olympic field ever? The real stars are only Venus and Serena... I hope they get to the final.

A Magicman
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:12 AM
What a surprise. :rolleyes:

Uranium
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:13 AM
does an American get the spot or another player?

nouf
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:14 AM
a player of double

hankqq
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:14 AM
poor Lindz :sobbing: She came back just for this too...

so who will get her spot?

In The Zone
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:14 AM
does an American get the spot or another player?

A new player, someone from doubles. Martinez Sanchez is ALT # 1 according to the rules in the Olympics Entry thread. I am sure her replacement will be announced soon.

Ben.
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:15 AM
Terrible news :sad: Hope she will still play the USO.

schorsch
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:15 AM
blah, you'd expect those articles would also say who'd get the spot, but no -_-

Cat's Pajamas
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:15 AM
Lindsay :bigcry: :(

ElusiveChanteuse
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:20 AM
OMG!:speakles:

Lindsay :sobbing: :(

shaktincredible
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:21 AM
=Omg. I want to cry.


i'm very happy, you feel what sharapova fans feel. :lol:

Uranium
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:22 AM
i'm very happy, you feel what sharapova fans feel. :lol:

:weirdo::o

PatrickRyan
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:24 AM
Bad news :sad:

barboza
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:24 AM
i'm very happy, you feel what sharapova fans feel. :lol:

I feel like Sweet Cleo now.

young_gunner913
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:35 AM
i'm very happy, you feel what sharapova fans feel. :lol:

You're a complete twat if you're happiness comes from the sadness of others. It says what kind of person you are. I wont say anymore, I'm not trying to get banned.

ArturoAce.
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:37 AM
Lindsay:bigcry:

Danči Dementia
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:42 AM
oh Lindsay oh Lindsay....:sobbing:

Dave.
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:44 AM
i'm very happy, you feel what sharapova fans feel. :lol:

Sharapova fans know she will be back at some point, this is probably the end for Lindsay. Sharapova fans know the grand slams are her most important goals, while for Lindsay team events such as this were her big priority. There's no comparison. :)

Shvedbarilescu
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:59 AM
Real shame that Lindsay won't be able to play the singles. It obviously meant a huge amount to her and for the effort put into her comeback to result in this is just extremely sad. I hope she is at least able to get some wins in the doubles and enjoy the experience of being part of another Olympics.

skanky~skanketta
Aug 8th, 2008, 07:06 AM
That truly sucks for the US team, Lindsay AND her fans.

But I'm sure Dinara and her fans are breathing a small sigh of relief. ;)

Michael!
Aug 8th, 2008, 07:10 AM
:sobbing:
That´s so sad, it was her dream to play here...:awww:

kittyking
Aug 8th, 2008, 07:10 AM
:sad:

Who else thinks she will at least consider coming back in 2012 now :bounce:

Rising Sun
Aug 8th, 2008, 07:12 AM
Lindsay :sobbing:

TeamUla
Aug 8th, 2008, 07:13 AM
Bad for Lindsay... Good for J&R.

barboza
Aug 8th, 2008, 07:15 AM
Who else feels like Sweet Cleo now? Because I do... :sobbing:

TennisPlayingFox
Aug 8th, 2008, 07:17 AM
Lindsay :sad: that sucks!

Amalgamate
Aug 8th, 2008, 07:19 AM
This really is too bad for Lindsay. But I can't say I'm surprised :shrug:

brayster87
Aug 8th, 2008, 07:20 AM
this is so sad :(

Lindsayfan32
Aug 8th, 2008, 07:21 AM
That truly sucks for the US team, Lindsay AND her fans.

But I'm sure Dinara and her fans are breathing a small sigh of relief. ;)

It does suck I don't get upset about Lindsay's withdrawals but this one really does suck and it's what Lindsay came back for I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Lindsay can play in the doubles then at least she got to play in the olympics one last time. Dinara would have had no problems beating Lindsay on one leg.:sad:

Tennisstar86
Aug 8th, 2008, 07:26 AM
:sad:

Who else thinks she will at least consider coming back in 2012 now :bounce:

i love lindsay but i hope come 2012... US Tennis isnt in such bad a shape that Davenport at 35 would be able to decide a less than a year before the olympics that she wants to play......

Adal
Aug 8th, 2008, 07:36 AM
Lindsay :sad:

mr_burns
Aug 8th, 2008, 07:48 AM
sad news, think she will retire after the us open

Herr comeback started so well, her body had no problmes til march and now...

maybe she can do sth in doubles, her singles draw was bad anyway

Mr.Kardashian
Aug 8th, 2008, 07:48 AM
i feel bad for her even though it is good news for molik. i hope she has some success in the doubles to make up for it though

stefi62
Aug 8th, 2008, 07:54 AM
Poor Lindsay! Sorry for all the fans!

If she was to withdraw for doubles as well, how would it work? An alternate team would be chosen, or another American player to play with Liezel?

Dexter
Aug 8th, 2008, 07:55 AM
Goodbye Lindsay. :(

Tennis Ball
Aug 8th, 2008, 07:58 AM
:sad::sad::sad::sad: Oh no, Lindsay, why is this injury ruining your comeback?! :confused: :sad:

mapaliey
Aug 8th, 2008, 08:09 AM
expected.....

Navratil
Aug 8th, 2008, 08:11 AM
What a shame! But it's not that unexpected.

It's her favorite part of the season and she missed all the us hardcourt tournaments. Hope her knee is alright next month for the US Open!

Dinayer
Aug 8th, 2008, 08:35 AM
:sad:

JonBcn
Aug 8th, 2008, 08:40 AM
Poor Lindsay. And poor Lisa Raymond.

olivero
Aug 8th, 2008, 08:41 AM
Oh no! Poor Lindsay:sad:

Dodoboy.
Aug 8th, 2008, 09:13 AM
http://d.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/sp/ap_photo/20080807/all/l3320392.jpg

Lindsay on her right knee on thursday. No strapping or anything?

John.
Aug 8th, 2008, 09:18 AM
:bigcry:

LUXXXAS
Aug 8th, 2008, 09:24 AM
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! !!!!! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

Rocketta
Aug 8th, 2008, 09:36 AM
sad for Lindsay and her fans but I have to say I even feel sad for Lisa Raymond. If Lindsay isn't fit to play doubles she really should let Lisa play I mean Lindsay has at least experienced the olympics before. :sad:

Mikey.
Aug 8th, 2008, 09:54 AM
:tears:

ChampLindsay
Aug 8th, 2008, 10:17 AM
SOOOO SAD:sad::sad::sad::sad::sad:

Rumkin
Aug 8th, 2008, 10:17 AM
yikes... everyone seems to be injured :sad: poor lindsay

Uranium
Aug 8th, 2008, 10:21 AM
sad for Lindsay and her fans but I have to say I even feel sad for Lisa Raymond. If Lindsay isn't fit to play doubles she really should let Lisa play I mean Lindsay has at least experienced the olympics before. :sad:

people keep saying that Lisa has never been to the Olympics...yes she has. 2004 Athens, she played with Martina Navratilova and lost I think in the 3rd round to Sugiyama/Asagoe.

tobe
Aug 8th, 2008, 10:29 AM
damn, does this never end??? So sad....poor Lindsay, hope she can play doubles at least!!!

Nina.
Aug 8th, 2008, 10:30 AM
Really bad news...I feel so sorry for Lindsay :sad:

Ceri
Aug 8th, 2008, 10:39 AM
Will she still play the Open?

Marionated
Aug 8th, 2008, 10:54 AM
I was really looking foward to seeing her play too :sad:

Meelis
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:15 AM
If she was to withdraw for doubles as well, how would it work? An alternate team would be chosen, or another American player to play with Liezel?

Craybas would replace her.

iii) If one player from a team withdraws after 12.00 midnight GMT
on 2 August 2008 that player may be replaced by a player from
the same country already in the singles event.

iv) If a doubles team withdraws after 12.00 midnight GMT on 2
August 2008, that team shall be replaced by a team comprising
two players in the singles event. The team will be selected by the
Referee and ITF Technical Delegates.

Cp6uja
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:15 AM
Smart decission from Former Gold medalist. In her ages without 100% ready knee and tough draw, playing in singles she will only make less her chances to reach medal in doubles where she playing with WTA#1 Huber. Unnecessary risk playing in singles will be also dangeruos for he USO/08 participation. She is too smart, experienced and already have OG Gold in singles to make unwary moves. Nobody is happy with that, but this is reality and less bad deccission of all her current options.

zestyswans
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:22 AM
No no no, not Linds too!

What's happening to all my players?

The Willies are looking good now. Not that they weren't before...

sharapovarulz1
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:30 AM
Wow out of the blue! Poor Lindsay!

BuTtErFrEnA
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:37 AM
i'm very happy, you feel what sharapova fans feel. :lol:

are you real :weirdo:

Rocketta
Aug 8th, 2008, 12:38 PM
people keep saying that Lisa has never been to the Olympics...yes she has. 2004 Athens, she played with Martina Navratilova and lost I think in the 3rd round to Sugiyama/Asagoe.

Oh really! Well then bump Lisa! Work it out Lindsay! :yeah:

Andreas
Aug 8th, 2008, 12:41 PM
Has this got to be the worst Olympic field ever? The real stars are only Venus and Serena... I hope they get to the final.

:haha::rolleyes:

darkchild
Aug 8th, 2008, 12:42 PM
:bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::b igcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::big cry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcr y::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry:

Can she get a break?
I am so sick of this!

CrossCourt~Rally
Aug 8th, 2008, 12:57 PM
Lindsay << :hug:

tae04
Aug 8th, 2008, 01:26 PM
Ummm, Im sure Lindsay knew before this week that her knee wasn't ready to go. She should have given up here spot a while ago.

Radix2
Aug 8th, 2008, 02:40 PM
Not surprised. I think this is the end of her come back.

Radix2
Aug 8th, 2008, 02:44 PM
Not surprised. I think this is the end of her short come back.

Venus Forever
Aug 8th, 2008, 02:46 PM
Oh Lindsay :sad:

Get better soon!!

Demska
Aug 8th, 2008, 03:05 PM
:sad:

Julian
Aug 8th, 2008, 03:12 PM
ugh! she always makes these last minute decisions! hate it! lol anyway i guess itll be better for her health..
wish her a speedy recovery.sigh. good luck in dubs!

Javi.
Aug 8th, 2008, 03:28 PM
Then, who is the next alternate to replace her? I'm a little confused :shrug:

LindsayRulz
Aug 8th, 2008, 03:30 PM
:sobbing:

gmak
Aug 8th, 2008, 04:30 PM
that's horrible :sad: :tears: :sad:
no Maria and now no Lindsay :( :bigcry:

Ellery
Aug 8th, 2008, 04:39 PM
Lindsay :bigcry:

danieln1
Aug 8th, 2008, 04:40 PM
:bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :sobbing:
I hate her fucking knee

enchantrezz
Aug 8th, 2008, 04:56 PM
That truly sucks for the US team, Lindsay AND her fans.

But I'm sure Dinara and her fans are breathing a small sigh of relief. ;)

On the contrary I was really looking forward for Dinara and Lindsay to meet in the second round.

Sammm
Aug 8th, 2008, 05:11 PM
Lindsay won her match at Wimbledon against Vorocova on one knee. As we all know she's such a clean stiker of the ball I don't see why she and Liezel still can't win a medal - as long as they blend together well in this short space of time.
It's sad that her career has been plighted by so much bad luck and misfortune :sad:

bad_angel_109
Aug 8th, 2008, 05:17 PM
:eek: Nooooo!!!! This can't be happening! Linds looked so cute wearing her hat tho :sad:

Craig.
Aug 8th, 2008, 05:19 PM
OMG, NO. Just no. WHY??? First Maria, now Lindsay. :mad:

:sobbing:

Elldee
Aug 8th, 2008, 05:21 PM
C'MON Hubenport!!!!!!!!!111

MisterMan
Aug 8th, 2008, 05:35 PM
put a fork in her.

Worst.Comeback.Ever.

starin
Aug 8th, 2008, 05:37 PM
:crying2::crying2:

this truly sucks. And it sounds like Serena and Venus are still a little injured. Why is Team USA so injury plagued?? sucks so bad.

oleada
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:01 PM
Honestly, with this comeback going the way it has, Lindsay should've considered retirement.
The USA should've brought Mattek.

Sammm
Aug 8th, 2008, 08:22 PM
Honestly, with this comeback going the way it has, Lindsay should've considered retirement.
The USA should've brought Mattek.
You're right. Considering how well she's been playing in both singles and doubles it's sad that Bethanie can't be in Beijing :sad: That's why I' really like to see Lindsay win a medal in the doubles, so it wasn't a wasted trip.

Havok
Aug 8th, 2008, 09:31 PM
Wow. She could have pulled out before the ceremony/draw since she obviously knew she wasn't up to playing. Get well soon, though.

Elldee
Aug 8th, 2008, 09:35 PM
Wow. She could have pulled out before the ceremony/draw since she obviously knew she wasn't up to playing. Get well soon, though.

I beg to differ. She's been practicing; she hoped to play, wanted to play, tried to play.

Brashkoala
Aug 8th, 2008, 09:43 PM
let me get this straight. because lindsay withdrew so late, after the draw was made, there will be no usa alternate? it's really a shame and also inconsiderate. i'm sure lindsay's knee felt the same the day before the draw was made as it did right before she withdrew. why be so selfish as to wait until the last minute waiting for a miracle you know is not going to happen, when you know you wont be able to play. she should have given another girl a chance to compete at the olymics.

The Dawntreader
Aug 8th, 2008, 09:47 PM
It's crap for Lindsay, it's crap for her fans and the tourname itself. Would've been great to see Lindsay one last time playing singles at Beijing:sad:

Ah well, i can only hope she can gather some brief spell of fitness for the Open. She needs to go out on a high:sad:

Elldee
Aug 8th, 2008, 09:48 PM
let me get this straight. because lindsay withdrew so late, after the draw was made, there will be no usa alternate? it's really a shame and also inconsiderate. i'm sure lindsay's knee felt the same the day before the draw was made as it did right before she withdrew. why be so selfish as to wait until the last minute waiting for a miracle you know is not going to happen, when you know you wont be able to play. she should have given another girl a chance to compete at the olymics.

Firstly, a day wouldn't have made a difference - Beijing is far from America [duh]. Secondly, Zvonareva was able to replace Sharapova because if there wasn't a four player limit from each country, Vera would have qualified. For American players, however, 4 qualified and Harkleroad refused and Craybas only just scraped in as the final player to get in.

Lucemferre
Aug 8th, 2008, 09:50 PM
What a selfish bitch :rolleyes:

Serenita
Aug 8th, 2008, 09:53 PM
Davenport very very very selfish. why not give another youngster the chance to play.

Brashkoala
Aug 8th, 2008, 10:07 PM
Firstly, a day wouldn't have made a difference - Beijing is far from America [duh]. Secondly, Zvonareva was able to replace Sharapova because if there wasn't a four player limit from each country, Vera would have qualified. For American players, however, 4 qualified and Harkleroad refused and Craybas only just scraped in as the final player to get in.

first, davenport should have withdrawn days before the draw was made. she know her knee is not going to get better in a matter of days; she's dealth with injuries before and has a lot of experience, she know's it's not going to get any better anytime soon. secondly, fine is harkleroad didn't want to go, the next player in could still have replaced davenport. whoever it may be. the us will lose one representative for davenport being selfish. PERIOD.

spartanfan
Aug 8th, 2008, 10:08 PM
This is the same shit that Lindsay pulled in 2000 at the Sydney olympics! That bitch knew she was injured and couldn't play before she left the USA! She blocked another American player the opportunity to play in the Olympics. What a fuckin selfish bitch!! In 2000 she waited until the last minute to pull out of the games and that prevented Serena from being able to play!

iPatty
Aug 8th, 2008, 10:25 PM
I have to say it is expected but still very sorry for Lindsay.

LindsayRulz
Aug 8th, 2008, 10:36 PM
first, davenport should have withdrawn days before the draw was made. she know her knee is not going to get better in a matter of days; she's dealth with injuries before and has a lot of experience, she know's it's not going to get any better anytime soon. secondly, fine is harkleroad didn't want to go, the next player in could still have replaced davenport. whoever it may be. the us will lose one representative for davenport being selfish. PERIOD.

This is the same shit that Lindsay pulled in 2000 at the Sydney olympics! That bitch knew she was injured and couldn't play before she left the USA! She blocked another American player the opportunity to play in the Olympics. What a fuckin selfish bitch!! In 2000 she waited until the last minute to pull out of the games and that prevented Serena from being able to play!


:rolleyes:

The US don't lose one player because there is no other players in US that reached the criterias of the ITF. :weirdo:

Dave.
Aug 8th, 2008, 10:40 PM
This is the same shit that Lindsay pulled in 2000 at the Sydney olympics! That bitch knew she was injured and couldn't play before she left the USA! She blocked another American player the opportunity to play in the Olympics. What a fuckin selfish bitch!! In 2000 she waited until the last minute to pull out of the games and that prevented Serena from being able to play!

What are you on about she won her first match 6-2 6-2. :silly: :weirdo:


If Lindsay has earned the right to go to the Olympics through her ranking she can do whatever the hell she wants. She didn't intend to be injured. She obviously thought her knee be good enough to play or she wouldn't have made the effort to go over to Beijing. She's not going there just to block someone elses place, have some sense.

Dave.
Aug 8th, 2008, 10:44 PM
first, davenport should have withdrawn days before the draw was made. she know her knee is not going to get better in a matter of days; she's dealth with injuries before and has a lot of experience, she know's it's not going to get any better anytime soon. secondly, fine is harkleroad didn't want to go, the next player in could still have replaced davenport. whoever it may be. the us will lose one representative for davenport being selfish. PERIOD.

You don't knopw what you're talking about so you have no right to go around posting shit like this. The US have no other players so it doesn't matter whether she is there or not. Lindsay is kept busy with her family and travelled a long way to China, I doubt it's just for the sake of being selfish.

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 8th, 2008, 10:44 PM
I'm extremely dissapointed in Lindsay. She hasn't play singles and doubles without pulling out of one since her comeback.

Why all of a sudden would she think it would happen now?

IMO, she's been selfish. Very selfish.

In 2004 she didn't play Athens because she didn't feel safe.
BULLSHIT.
Greece paid a billion dollars just on security.

And I doubt that Lindsay Davenport is high on terrorist list of kidnapping.

Now she wants to play when she likely will have to pull out of the doubles as well, costing the US a medal.
I don't like Huber but the bitch has a shot of getting the silver if she would have played with a more versatile doubles player in Lisa who can play with new partners and win.

I'm just annoyed.
What haopened the last time we put two players in over 30 in doubles for the Olympics who weren't that speedy?
We didn't medal.

Now we decide to put a fatter women in with a women who can't move for shit with her knee.
Perfect represntation of the US I say.

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 8th, 2008, 10:47 PM
This is the same shit that Lindsay pulled in 2000 at the Sydney olympics! That bitch knew she was injured and couldn't play before she left the USA! She blocked another American player the opportunity to play in the Olympics. What a fuckin selfish bitch!! In 2000 she waited until the last minute to pull out of the games and that prevented Serena from being able to play!

I have to agree. The last 8 years Lindsay has treated the Olympics like any other tournament.

She pulled out late in 2000. She wanted to "rest" in 2004 and then snuck a wildcard to Cincy on the same week.
Why can't she be honest like Roddick and Agassi were and just say that the US Open is my focus.
You won a gold we get it.

But don't do it this way. Don't bullshyt or make irrational judgements that fuck up other athlete's chanc at something they might ever have another chance of doing.
It's just not right.

I have gave her two passes but this shit is not fucking kool and IMo she's fucking up the legacy I really thought she had.

Elldee
Aug 8th, 2008, 10:49 PM
I'm extremely dissapointed in Lindsay. She hasn't play singles and doubles without pulling out of one since her comeback.

Why all of a sudden would she think it would happen now?

IMO, she's been selfish. Very selfish.

In 2004 she didn't play Athens because she didn't feel safe.
BULLSHIT.
Greece paid a billion dollars just on security.

And I doubt that Lindsay Davenport is high on terrorist list of kidnapping.

Now she wants to play when she likely will have to pull out of the doubles as well, costing the US a medal.
I don't like Huber but the bitch has a shot of getting the silver if she would have played with a more versatile doubles player in Lisa who can play with new partners and win.

I'm just annoyed.
What haopened the last time we put two players in over 30 in doubles for the Olympics who weren't that speedy?
We didn't medal.

Now we decide to put a fatter women in with a women who can't move for shit with her knee.
Perfect represntation of the US I say.

Lindsay didn't play in Athens because she was in great form and the favourite for the US Open.

Lindsay will play doubles and if not Craybas is there who has played with Huber before and has had decent results in doubles during her career. I do however think Lindsay will play.

Someone will play Molik in the first round, someone will get a chance.

Elldee
Aug 8th, 2008, 10:50 PM
I have to agree. The last 8 years Lindsay has treated the Olympics like any other tournament.

She pulled out late in 2000. She wanted to "rest" in 2004 and then snuck a wildcard to Cincy on the same week.
Why can't she be honest like Roddick and Agassi were and just say that the US Open is my focus.
You won a gold we get it.

She did. She literally said that in regard to athens last month.

IanRadi
Aug 8th, 2008, 10:54 PM
Linds :help: I'm sorry to say this, but this is the end of your career :sobbing:

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 8th, 2008, 10:54 PM
She did. She literally said that in regard to athens last month.

She regrets her decision and she should because she played so much she cost herself that US Open.
And I don't feel the least bit sorry for her anymore in that regard.
Her sneaky ass deserved to lose it.

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 8th, 2008, 10:59 PM
Lindsay didn't play in Athens because she was in great form and the favourite for the US Open.

Lindsay will play doubles and if not Craybas is there who has played with Huber before and has had decent results in doubles during her career. I do however think Lindsay will play.

Someone will play Molik in the first round, someone will get a chance.

It should have been an American. That is not a team effort.
You have to make the Olympics by playing FED CUP or at least making yourself available.
Why would you fuck up that team up by pulling out late?
That's why it's selfish.

She knows her knee is going to nag her. Her doctors told her she only had 2 years left on it and I'm sure holding that 25 pound bowling ball Jagger isn't helping things.

As I said, Lisa has shown her versatility throughout the years playing. She should have been chosen over Lindsay IMO who has shown nothing in regards to doubles IMO this year.

And I see nothing wrong with her not playing Athens.
What I have a problem with is she said on national TV after winning the big three hard court tournis, that she was going to rest.

What she did instead on the same week as Athens is beg for a wildcard to play Cincy.
She lied. She's a liar. And I let it pass four years ago but she has a pattern that I don't think is respectful of the Olympic games.

And you know why I'm so pissed, because I forecast this months ago.
I knew Lindsay was going to do this shit.

I mentioned it when Mary Pierce was trying to play singles.
She's so predictable. She's such a bad fucking liar.

I'm dissapointed in both Lindsay and Mary Pierce.

Both have to know they're 50/50 wehn it probably comes to the Olympics.

Mary should have given up playing singles for the Olympics to play doubles and allow Mauresmo to play singles.

If Lindsay wants to play singles at the Olympics, that's fine.
But Lindsay has NEVER played with Leizel Huber and if she would say something now, fully knowing that it's tough for her to play both singles and doubles, then Lisa could get herself in better shape and play with Huber.

IMO, it's a little bit selfish.

I really hate being right.

LindsayRulz
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:06 PM
Thanks for clearing up the mystery around Lindsay's withdraw Wannabeknowitall, I didn't know that you know what she's thinking. :yeah:

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:10 PM
Thanks for clearing up the mystery around Lindsay's withdraw Wannabeknowitall, I didn't know that you know what she's thinking. :yeah:

You know you can be a smartass all you want but the reason I know Lindsay is it's not hard to.
Just think like an anti-social selfish bitch and you pretty much have Lindsay Davenport.

There are things I like about Lindsay but she's done some shady shit and I'm gonna call her out on it.

And if you recall, I was one of the few who continued to mention that Lindsay was coming back especially after Kim Clijsters took her name off the rankings and Lindsay didn't.

But I don't know anything about my favorite player.
I didn't just show you the opposite of what Lindsay would do and forecast it because she's selfish.

Lindsayfan32
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:17 PM
It should have been an American. That is not a team effort.
You have to make the Olympics by playing FED CUP or at least making yourself available.
Why would you fuck up that team up by pulling out late?
That's why it's selfish.

She knows her knee is going to nag her. Her doctors told her she only had 2 years left on it and I'm sure holding that 25 pound bowling ball Jagger isn't helping things.

As I said, Lisa has shown her versatility throughout the years playing. She should have been chosen over Lindsay IMO who has shown nothing in regards to doubles IMO this year.

And I see nothing wrong with her not playing Athens.
What I have a problem with is she said on national TV after winning the big three hard court tournis, that she was going to rest.

What she did instead on the same week as Athens is beg for a wildcard to play Cincy.
She lied. She's a liar. And I let it pass four years ago but she has a pattern that I don't think is respectful of the Olympic games.

And you know why I'm so pissed, because I forecast this months ago.
I knew Lindsay was going to do this shit.

I mentioned it when Mary Pierce was trying to play singles.
She's so predictable. She's such a bad fucking liar.



I really hate being right.

In Lindsay's case there is another way of looking at it. She could've have pulled out of the doubles and left Huber high and dry and not being able to play. Lindsay earns the right to be there and I said a long time ago that she should go just to play doubles so there is less stress on her knee. Put in the same position as Lindsay I would be doing the same thing. The main concern was 11 matches in 7 days if Lindsay kept winning and as far as I'm concerned Lindsay did do the team not me thing by pulling out of the singles and not the doubles usually when this situation arises the doubles go first so I hope Lindsay get rewarded for her selflessness and wins a few matches. I personally think you are dead wrong.

LindsayRulz
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:23 PM
You know you can be a smartass all you want but the reason I know Lindsay is it's not hard to.
Just think like an anti-social selfish bitch and you pretty much have Lindsay Davenport.

There are things I like about Lindsay but she's done some shady shit and I'm gonna call her out on it.

And if you recall, I was one of the few who continued to mention that Lindsay was coming back especially after Kim Clijsters took her name off the rankings and Lindsay didn't.

But I don't know anything about my favorite player.
I didn't just show you the opposite of what Lindsay would do and forecast it because she's selfish.

Your post make no sense, you're judging a person you don't even know, basing your arguments on guesses or feelings. You could at least bring facts to this conversation and then someone might believe the crap you are writting about Lindsay.

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:26 PM
In Lindsay's case there is another way of looking at it. She could've have pulled out of the doubles and left Huber high and dry and not being able to play. Lindsay earns the right to be there and I said a long time ago that she should go just to play doubles so there is less stress on her knee. Put in the same position as Lindsay I would be doing the same thing. The main concern was 11 matches in 7 days if Lindsay kept winning and as far as I'm concerned Lindsay did do the team not me thing by pulling out of the singles and not the doubles usually when this situation arises the doubles go first so I hope Lindsay get rewarded for her selflessness and wins a few matches. I personally think you are dead wrong.

Oh please with the spin.
Craybas actually can move for her age and America has a better chance with a healthy Jill than with a 50% Lindsay.

If she can't play singles with this draw, then she should retire right now.

Like the Green Bay Packers, you're not answering my question, you're evading it as much as possible.

You can't tell me she didn't know she wouldn't be able to play both after not being able to play both singles and doubles in any tourni without withdrawing from one during this comeback.
You don't find it a least bit irrational that she thinks she can now play both?

The answer is Lindsay knows her body, she knew she couldn't do both ss I said a month ago and instead of taking a bash at her ego and take into consideration that she isn't the same player she was 4 years ago, she just went for it anyway without considering what it would do to the other American athletes.

It's fucking selfish and there's nothing you can say or spin to make it look any different.

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:32 PM
Your post make no sense, you're judging a person you don't even know, basing your arguments on guesses or feelings. You could at least bring facts to this conversation and then someone might believe the crap you are writting about Lindsay.

Judging a person.
I gave her two passes, two straight Olympics.
Three times. Oh Hell no.

I brought facts to this. Are you fucking blind?

She pulled out in 2000 late.

She lied about wanting to rest in 2004 and played when she shouldn't have and possibly could have cost her an US Open.
I saw her right after she won the big three summer hard courts, the first time she's done that since 1998 say to Mary Joe Fernandez, I'm going to rest.
There's video proof of it.

She LIED. If you say one thing and do another...

Just because she didn't outright do it this time doesn't mean it's not effecting other people.
That's the selfishness of it.

And they're educated guesses based on tendencies of Lindsay throughout 15 years. Ok.
Don't hate.
I took into consideration the irrationality of her playing singles and doubles when she hasn't all year without withdrawing.
I took into consideration her knee issue which as I mentioned before her doctors told her she had only 1-2 years left on it.
I took into considerations her irrational actions from previous Olympics.

It's not that hard to make a good prediction from that just as i did when she didn't take her name off the rankings after Kim Clijsters did in May of 2007.
There was the intent to come back from that action.

Lindsayfan32
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:35 PM
Oh please with the spin.
Craybas actually can move for her age and America has a better chance with a healthy Jill than with a 50% Lindsay.

If she can't play singles with this draw, then she should retire right now.

Like the Green Bay Packers, you're not answering my question, you're evading it as much as possible.

You can't tell me she didn't know she wouldn't be able to play both after not being able to play both singles and doubles in any tourni without withdrawing from one during this comeback.
You don't find it a least bit irrational that she thinks she can now play both?

The answer is Lindsay knows her body, she knew she couldn't do both ss I said a month ago and instead of taking a bash at her ego and take into consideration that she isn't the same player she was 4 years ago, she just went for it anyway without considering what it would do to the other American athletes.

It's fucking selfish and there's nothing you can say or spin to make it look any different.

I agree with you that Lindsay not the same players she was four years ago but this is just pointless rant. The olympics mean a lot to Lindsay and I know she would be considered other people in her decision. Who else apart from Lisa could've replaced Lindsay? I also agree with you that Lindsay should retire after the US open but she needs to look after her long term health. Also if she kept playing after the olympics and the US open what would she be playing for?

LindsayRulz
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:41 PM
Judging a person.
I gave her two passes, two straight Olympics.
Three times. Oh Hell no.

I brought facts to this. Are you fucking blind?

She pulled out in 2000 late.

She lied about wanting to rest in 2004 and played when she shouldn't have and possibly could have cost her an US Open.
I saw her right after she won the big three summer hard courts, the first time she's done that since 1998 say to Mary Joe Fernandez, I'm going to rest.
There's video proof of it.

She LIED. If you say one thing and do another...

Just because she didn't outright do it this time doesn't mean it's not effecting other people.
That's the selfishness of it.

[I was more refering your judgement about the comments you made on Lindsay like calling her a selfish bitch]

She didn't pull out late in 2000, she played and injured herself. Oh and what a huge lie in 2004, she played three matches in her backyard, it's almost the same as resting...

The Daviator
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:42 PM
Oh please with the spin.
Craybas actually can move for her age and America has a better chance with a healthy Jill than with a 50% Lindsay.

If she can't play singles with this draw, then she should retire right now.

Like the Green Bay Packers, you're not answering my question, you're evading it as much as possible.

You can't tell me she didn't know she wouldn't be able to play both after not being able to play both singles and doubles in any tourni without withdrawing from one during this comeback.
You don't find it a least bit irrational that she thinks she can now play both?

The answer is Lindsay knows her body, she knew she couldn't do both ss I said a month ago and instead of taking a bash at her ego and take into consideration that she isn't the same player she was 4 years ago, she just went for it anyway without considering what it would do to the other American athletes.

It's fucking selfish and there's nothing you can say or spin to make it look any different.

Lindsay reached #23 in the rankings, the 3rd highest ranked American, she earned a spot on the Olympic team, a spot that is rightfully hers, if she wants to go to Beijing and wait until the day before the tennis event begins to withdraw, then that's her fucking right since she earned the spot!

I don't know what you heard, but I heard Lindsay opting out of Athens due to security fears and to prepare for the USO and that's what she did.

spartanfan
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:45 PM
I'm sorry y'all but that was fuckin bitch move on Lindsays part. That bitch knew she couldn't play both singles and doubles with a fucked up knee before she got her big ass on that plane to head to China. She cost another American player the opportunity to play in the Olympics. To me, that's the definition of a selfish ****.

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:46 PM
I agree with you that Lindsay not the same players she was four years ago but this is just pointless rant. The olympics mean a lot to Lindsay and I know she would be considered other people in her decision. Who else apart from Lisa could've replaced Lindsay? I also agree with you that Lindsay should retire after the US open but she needs to look after her long term health. Also if she kept playing after the olympics and the US open what would she be playing for?

It's not a pointless rant. It is to you because you can't see Lindsay for the person she really is.
The thing is I do and for the most part I could care less but the one thing I can't stand about any player is the lack of ability to grow from a previous incident, whether it be on court or off-court.

And IMO, she did not learn from 2004 and I'm not going to pat her on the back and say oh Lindsay.
No. She was wrong. She knows she's wrong. And it's just fucked up.

Freakan
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:49 PM
How selfish :o

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:50 PM
[I was more refering your judgement about the comments you made on Lindsay like calling her a selfish bitch]

She didn't pull out late in 2000, she played and injured herself. Oh and what a huge lie in 2004, she played three matches in her backyard, it's almost the same as resting...

It's still a lie sweetie and obviously you can't seem to wrap your head around that.

And whether you want to believe it or not, that lie cost her.

If she would have rested when she said maybe she would have had enough left to beat Kuzzie.
She didn't. She played so much during that hard court season, she was bound to have something go wrong.

The Daviator
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:50 PM
I'm sorry y'all but that was fuckin bitch move on Lindsays part. That bitch knew she couldn't play both singles and doubles with a fucked up knee before she got her big ass on that plane to head to China. She cost another American player the opportunity to play in the Olympics. To me, that's the definition of a selfish ****.

Maybe if the other American players recorded better results than 32-year old big ass mother with a duff knee/back/hip/everything then they would be going to the Olympics.

But they didn't, Lindsay did, she booked her spot and she was entitled to go to Beijing, even to go sightsee, who cares, she earned that ticket.

Lindsayfan32
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:52 PM
[I was more refering your judgement about the comments you made on Lindsay like calling her a selfish bitch]

She didn't pull out late in 2000, she played and injured herself. Oh and what a huge lie in 2004, she played three matches in her backyard, it's almost the same as resting...

Played one match and went straight home with what she thought was stress fractures in her foot and it turned out it was tendonsis and only found out after she got home. If she had known before she left Sydney she may have played on.

DownTheLine21
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:53 PM
Oh no. This is terrible news. I know how much the Olympics meant to her. I hope she'll be healthy for the USO, but it looks doubtful.

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:55 PM
Maybe if the other American players recorded better results than 32-year old big ass mother with a duff knee/back/hip/everything then they would be going to the Olympics.

But they didn't, Lindsay did, she booked her spot and she was entitled to go to Beijing, even to go sightsee, who cares, she earned that ticket.

Let's take line from Billie Jean King and use it for this.

The Olympics are a privilege. It's not something that is a guarantee.
And for you to make that assumption when Monica Seles missed the games in Barcelona because of lack of play in FED CUP is silly to say the least.

Your place is not guaranteed no matter what your ranking is.
Ask the two Germans who didn't make it in 2004.

I mean there's proof that your assumption is clearly wrong and yet you continue to proceed with it.

Lindsayfan32
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:56 PM
It's still a lie sweetie and obviously you can't seem to wrap your head around that.

And whether you want to believe it or not, that lie cost her.

If she would have rested when she said maybe she would have had enough left to beat Kuzzie.
She didn't. She played so much during that hard court season, she was bound to have something go wrong.

Does it really matter what Lindsay did four years your a dickhead who won't let go. Lindsay felt it was in her best interests not to play the olympics in 2004 end of story and she playing now and there is nothing you can do about it. There was no one who could've replaced Lindsay and I hope she still gets to play in the doubles. If Lisa was an option she would've been included in the team and play with Huber so let go and get over it.

LindsayRulz
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:56 PM
It's still a lie sweetie and obviously you can't seem to wrap your head around that.

And whether you want to believe it or not, that lie cost her.

If she would have rested when she said maybe she would have had enough left to beat Kuzzie.
She didn't. She played so much during that hard court season, she was bound to have something go wrong.

But it's just a speculation, Cinci was three weeks before the US Open and again, she only played three matches there so I think she fully recovered by the Open. :shrug:

Chriskip
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:57 PM
I think the Olympics mean a lot to everyone and no one player can prove that it means more to them than to another. The only difference is that a select few have better chances at medalling than other, but that doesnt lessen their dream and desire to be there. Thats why there were so many smiling faces of over-excited participants at the opening ceremony...many of them know they will never get out of the preliminary rounds of their respective sports.

I say this to say that I think Lindsay really wanted to be there, knowing that its more likely her last chance. I think she was hoping against hope that she would be able to compete. But I think its not fair to another player who had an olympic dream and just missed the cut by virtue of the rules. Jill could have been just as competent a player in the doubles as an injured Lindsay, or better yet Lisa could have been given her fair chance to play. I dont wish to bash Lindsay because I do cheer for her, but if I am being honest I cant see how she can bring that much to the doubles now if she is not at full fitness. I really think Lindsay just wanted a ticket to be at that olympics and doubles was it. I hope I can get to see her play to rate her, because so help me God, if she is out there with that lead foot of hers I will have no sympathy for her after this. Though I like her game I have always known that she was fortunate in not receiving the same bashing as other players when she comes up with her excuses and late withdrawals etc...now I wont be surprised if her luck runs out.

barboza
Aug 9th, 2008, 12:00 AM
I can't believe people are attacking Lindsay for this. She has withdrawn from so many events just so she can rest her knee and wait till the last minute to evaluate her condition. Michelle Kwan did the same thing in Torino and she pulled out after her practice there. Besides, the next American player would not have been ranked high enough to be entered into the Olympics, so the next alternate deserves her spot anyway.

The Daviator
Aug 9th, 2008, 12:03 AM
Let's take line from Billie Jean King and use it for this.

The Olympics are a privilege. It's not something that is a guarantee.
And for you to make that assumption when Monica Seles missed the games in Barcelona because of lack of play in FED CUP is silly to say the least.

Your place is not guaranteed no matter what your ranking is.
Ask the two Germans who didn't make it in 2004.

I mean there's proof that your assumption is clearly wrong and yet you continue to proceed with it.

A privilege which Lindsay EARNED under the rules of the IOC related to qualification for the Olympic tennis event. Are you denying that Lindsay did not fairly qualify?

What did the other American players do to earn the right to compete in the world's most prestigious sporting event? This is not something that is given to you, you have to earn it, if you weren't good enough to meet the Olympic standard, then you don't deserve to go, period.

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 9th, 2008, 12:06 AM
Does it really matter what Lindsay did four years your a dickhead who won't let go. Lindsay felt it was in her best interests not to play the olympics in 2004 end of story and she playing now and there is nothing you can do about it. There was no one who could've replaced Lindsay and I hope she still gets to play in the doubles. If Lisa was an option she would've been included in the team and play with Huber so let go and get over it.

It does matter. She set a pattern. She lied and she should ave handled this situation better from the previous situation.

That's how we all grow as people.
Yes there's noone she could have replaced her in singles. Which is why in my quote a month ago I have no problem with her playing singles.

I have an issue with her playing doubles when there are a few other player ready for the opportunity.

Lisa is always an option. The only reason Leizel was picked is because she pressured the USTA.
How would the USTA look if they said no to Leizel after she left the RSA because they weren't paying much attention or giving her enough respect?

That's why she's the bitch of all bitches.

Because Venus, Serena, and Federer, have done more in Africa then Leizel can ever imagine and like Cara Black, she had a responsibility to stand by her country no matter what.

Lindsayfan32
Aug 9th, 2008, 12:08 AM
I think the Olympics mean a lot to everyone and no one player can prove that it means more to them than to another. The only difference is that a select few have better chances at medalling than other, but that doesnt lessen their dream and desire to be there. Thats why there were so many smiling faces of over-excited participants at the opening ceremony...many of them know they will never get out of the preliminary rounds of their respective sports.

I say this to say that I think Lindsay really wanted to be there, knowing that its more likely her last chance. I think she was hoping against hope that she would be able to compete. But I think its not fair to another player who had an olympic dream and just missed the cut by virtue of the rules. Jill could have been just as competent a player in the doubles as an injured Lindsay, or better yet Lisa could have been given her fair chance to play. I dont wish to bash Lindsay because I do cheer for her, but if I am being honest I cant see how she can bring that much to the doubles now if she is not at full fitness. I really think Lindsay just wanted a ticket to be at that olympics and doubles was it. I hope I can get to see her play to rate her, because so help me God, if she is out there with that lead foot of hers I will have no sympathy for her after this. Though I like her game I have always known that she was fortunate in not receiving the same bashing as other players when she comes up with her excuses and late withdrawals etc...now I wont be surprised if her luck runs out.

I do see your point but Jill was last American who qualified and also Lindsay hasn't pulled out of the doubles yet and you only cover half the court for doubles and a lot less lateral movement from what I've heard that was the main problem for Lindsay. The rules are the rules as dumb as they may be and no one else could've replaced her and if Lindsay can't play I hope Jill can replace her in the doubles. I also think this decsion would've been taken lightly and been done without a lot thought. Let's hope this debate means nothing tommorrow and Lindsay plays and even if she doesn't can't blame her for wanting to. But your point is well taken too.

Dave.
Aug 9th, 2008, 12:10 AM
Oh please with the spin.
Craybas actually can move for her age and America has a better chance with a healthy Jill than with a 50% Lindsay.

If she can't play singles with this draw, then she should retire right now.

Like the Green Bay Packers, you're not answering my question, you're evading it as much as possible.

You can't tell me she didn't know she wouldn't be able to play both after not being able to play both singles and doubles in any tourni without withdrawing from one during this comeback.
You don't find it a least bit irrational that she thinks she can now play both?

The answer is Lindsay knows her body, she knew she couldn't do both ss I said a month ago and instead of taking a bash at her ego and take into consideration that she isn't the same player she was 4 years ago, she just went for it anyway without considering what it would do to the other American athletes.

It's fucking selfish and there's nothing you can say or spin to make it look any different.

What exactly does it do to the other American athletes? Lindsay withdrawing from the singles has no effect on anyone from the US. Nobody else qualified. In this situation, if she has to pick between singles and doubles it's obviously going to be doubles, it's less demanding on her body. It was always planned that Lindsay would play doubles. Lisa, up until Wimbledon had been struggling alot with results and fitness, I don't think the team Huber/Raymond was ever a plan.

Judging a person.
I gave her two passes, two straight Olympics.
Three times. Oh Hell no.

I brought facts to this. Are you fucking blind?

She pulled out in 2000 late.

She lied about wanting to rest in 2004 and played when she shouldn't have and possibly could have cost her an US Open.
I saw her right after she won the big three summer hard courts, the first time she's done that since 1998 say to Mary Joe Fernandez, I'm going to rest.
There's video proof of it.

She LIED. If you say one thing and do another...

Just because she didn't outright do it this time doesn't mean it's not effecting other people.
That's the selfishness of it.

And they're educated guesses based on tendencies of Lindsay throughout 15 years. Ok.
Don't hate.
I took into consideration the irrationality of her playing singles and doubles when she hasn't all year without withdrawing.
I took into consideration her knee issue which as I mentioned before her doctors told her she had only 1-2 years left on it.
I took into considerations her irrational actions from previous Olympics.

It's not that hard to make a good prediction from that just as i did when she didn't take her name off the rankings after Kim Clijsters did in May of 2007.
There was the intent to come back from that action.

Casual off-court interviews are hardly signed contracts. Lindsay was perfectly entitled to change her mind and enter another tournament. Playing Cincy was alot less stressful than going all the way to Athens- something she didn't want to do and doesn't have to. I don't understand how you are "passing" her for two straight Olympics. 2000 she injured herself during the tournament- it's unfortunate. 2004 she never intended to play in the first place- it wasen't a priority for her then she didn't want to play. She didn't effect anyone else by not playing.

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 9th, 2008, 12:12 AM
A privilege which Lindsay EARNED under the rules of the IOC related to qualification for the Olympic tennis event. Are you denying that Lindsay did not fairly qualify?

What did the other American players do to earn the right to compete in the world's most prestigious sporting event? This is not something that is given to you, you have to earn it, if you weren't good enough to meet the Olympic standard, then you don't deserve to go, period.

She did fairly qualify for the SINGLES but the USTA as other country's association has a say in who they want to play for doubles.

Sharapova really considered doubles.
You really think that was going to happen?

Mary Pierce according to the IOC rules could have played doubles.
Was that going to happen? No.
That's part of the reason why Mauresmo was picked.

She hasn't finished one doubles tourni this year.
She's not anywhere in the top rankings in doubles.
If you look just at doubles Lisa earned the right over Lindsay to play.

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 9th, 2008, 12:25 AM
What exactly does it do to the other American athletes? Lindsay withdrawing from the singles has no effect on anyone from the US. Nobody else qualified. In this situation, if she has to pick between singles and doubles it's obviously going to be doubles, it's less demanding on her body. It was always planned that Lindsay would play doubles. Lisa, up until Wimbledon had been struggling alot with results and fitness, I don't think the team Huber/Raymond was ever a plan.



Casual off-court interviews are hardly signed contracts. Lindsay was perfectly entitled to change her mind and enter another tournament. Playing Cincy was alot less stressful than going all the way to Athens- something she didn't want to do and doesn't have to. I don't understand how you are "passing" her for two straight Olympics. 2000 she injured herself during the tournament- it's unfortunate. 2004 she never intended to play in the first place- it wasen't a priority for her then she didn't want to play. She didn't effect anyone else by not playing.

Her first round is against Alicia Molik.
Alicia is still overweight, has moving issues, her backhand is off, I wouldn't even consider it top 100 at this point.

Yeah. So demanding.
Stosur was sick. And honestly Lisa is no worse than Leizel right now.
So one player whose overweight but winning because Cara Black is carrying the team is fine.
But another whose losing because her regular partner is not playing with her and no american is focusing on doubles that she could practice with is odd to say the least.

Huber IMO could have attempted to play with more doubles players from the US.
The fact remains that when Lindsay had a choice to play she picked Lisa and they almost beat Huber/Black at Pilot Pen last year.

I asked the question.
Why couldn't Lindsay just say her focus is the US Open and tell her intent to play during the Olympic week like Agassi and Roddick have done?
I don't agree with their decision but I respect the way they did it.

She couldn't. She had to be sneaky about it.

She didn't effect anyone by not playing in 2004?

She put Venus in a sticky situation as the only American with a chance to win a medal for the women with Capriati and Serena out with injuries.

It's hypocritical for a player who if you haven't noticed historically does better when an American is still in a draw of majors and the focus is not on her to then pretty much ditch someone else.

I don't think you understand the concept that there is a team concept for the Olympics in tennis because you have to or should play FED CUP.
They were still team USA.

Lindsayfan32
Aug 9th, 2008, 12:29 AM
This is a no win debate. I respect everyone opinions on this as it's their right to have one and be heard but we are beating a dead horse here. Lindsay in China Lisa's not. Let's just let it go and agree to disagree on this one and wait to see what happens in next few days.

barboza
Aug 9th, 2008, 12:29 AM
Enough, Wannabeknowitall. Lindsay deserves her spot at the Olympics and her injury cost her at the last minute. She chose not to play in the last Olympics, so keep your mouth shut.

QUEENLINDSAY
Aug 9th, 2008, 12:34 AM
Sue Lindsay!!

Chriskip
Aug 9th, 2008, 12:44 AM
Her first round is against Alicia Molik.
Alicia is still overweight, has moving issues, her backhand is off, I wouldn't even consider it top 100 at this point.

Yeah. So demanding.
Stosur was sick. And honestly Lisa is no worse than Leizel right now.
So one player whose overweight but winning because Cara Black is carrying the team is fine.
But another whose losing because her regular partner is not playing with her and no american is focusing on doubles that she could practice with is odd to say the least.

Huber IMO could have attempted to play with more doubles players from the US.
The fact remains that when Lindsay had a choice to play she picked Lisa and they almost beat Huber/Black at Pilot Pen last year.

I asked the question.
Why couldn't Lindsay just say her focus is the US Open and tell her intent to play during the Olympic week like Agassi and Roddick have done?
I don't agree with their decision but I respect the way they did it.

She couldn't. She had to be sneaky about it.

She didn't effect anyone by not playing in 2004?

She put Venus in a sticky situation as the only American with a chance to win a medal for the women with Capriati and Serena out with injuries.

It's hypocritical for a player who if you haven't noticed historically does better when an American is still in a draw of majors and the focus is not on her to then pretty much ditch someone else.

I don't think you understand the concept that there is a team concept for the Olympics in tennis because you have to or should play FED CUP.
They were still team USA.

I am not going to let emotions rule my head right now so I am not afraid to say I see most if not all your points. I am not a USA fan (I am a fan of individuals when it comes to tennis) and dont really care who replaces Lindsay in singles, but I just think an early withdrawal would have given someone else, whoever that may be, a better chance at preparation and also the opportunity to march in the opening ceremony like Lindsay did and obviously enjoyed this morning. Someone may have been robbed of that.

Also if she is so into team play and spirit she better make sure she plays her full part in the doubles....this whole argument about playing half the court dont sit well with me. Good team play would suggest that if you are not at your best you allow a better off player to do the job. Fine she may not have to do all the running as in singles but I think all Lindsays fans, if they really know her, know that she is one to go into a slump and dont run for anything at all....just drop her shoulders and walk with her heavy foot from side to side. That wont be accepted at this olympics and after what she did this morning she better make sure she is prepared to die out there on that doubles court to rectify things.

Dave.
Aug 9th, 2008, 12:47 AM
Her first round is against Alicia Molik.
Alicia is still overweight, has moving issues, her backhand is off, I wouldn't even consider it top 100 at this point.

Yeah. So demanding.
Stosur was sick. And honestly Lisa is no worse than Leizel right now.
So one player whose overweight but winning because Cara Black is carrying the team is fine.
But another whose losing because her regular partner is not playing with her and no american is focusing on doubles that she could practice with is odd to say the least.

Huber IMO could have attempted to play with more doubles players from the US.
The fact remains that when Lindsay had a choice to play she picked Lisa and they almost beat Huber/Black at Pilot Pen last year.

I asked the question.
Why couldn't Lindsay just say her focus is the US Open and tell her intent to play during the Olympic week like Agassi and Roddick have done?
I don't agree with their decision but I respect the way they did it.

She couldn't. She had to be sneaky about it.

She didn't effect anyone by not playing in 2004?

She put Venus in a sticky situation as the only American with a chance to win a medal for the women with Capriati and Serena out with injuries.

It's hypocritical for a player who if you haven't noticed historically does better when an American is still in a draw of majors and the focus is not on her to then pretty much ditch someone else.

I don't think you understand the concept that there is a team concept for the Olympics in tennis because you have to or should play FED CUP.
They were still team USA.

Regardless of her first round opponent, Lindsay is not fully fit for singles since she arrived in Beijing. Even if she did manage to scrape past Molik, she would probably eventually have to pull out.

The doubles situation is complicated and has been discussed alot this year. The best choice would have been good friends Davenport/Raymond (who already won a tournament & have a 5-0 record for 08). Huber/Raymond never seemed a likely option. From what I've observed, they don't seem to get along, they have never played together before despite being doubles specialists. And when these decisions were being made before Wimbledon, Raymond's results were all over the place.


In 2004, Lindsay didn't want to and never intended to play the Olympics. The Olympics are not a Grand Slam event and they are not required. Lindsay at the time was more concerned with getting her career back on track in her favourite environment. Lindsay shouldn't have to come up with excuses for not going to Athens, it's not a mandatory event.

I'm sure that Venus could handle the pressure of being the only American.

Lindsayfan32
Aug 9th, 2008, 01:03 AM
I am not going to let emotions rule my head right now so I am not afraid to say I see most if not all your points. I am not a USA fan (I am a fan of individuals when it comes to tennis) and dont really care who replaces Lindsay in singles, but I just think an early withdrawal would have given someone else, whoever that may be, a better chance at preparation and also the opportunity to march in the opening ceremony like Lindsay did and obviously enjoyed this morning. Someone may have been robbed of that.

Also if she is so into team play and spirit she better make sure she plays her full part in the doubles....this whole argument about playing half the court dont sit well with me. Good team play would suggest that if you are not at your best you allow a better off player to do the job. Fine she may not have to do all the running as in singles but I think all Lindsays fans, if they really know her, know that she is one to go into a slump and dont run for anything at all....just drop her shoulders and walk with her heavy foot from side to side. That wont be accepted at this olympics and after what she did this morning she better make sure she is prepared to die out there on that doubles court to rectify things.

I totally agree with you on the fact if Lindsay plays she better be able to finish the tournament as it would be totally unfair to Huber. I don't agree with you on going into a slump thing I've seen Lindsay play a lot of doubles over the years and she has never done that in doubles this is where I think this a better environment to play in as a team mate will be able to lift her and help her on the court.

enchantrezz
Aug 9th, 2008, 02:14 AM
Question. How could Lindsay not know she wasnt fit enough to play before they left for Beijing? Its interesting that she pulled out only after the draw was announced.

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 9th, 2008, 02:40 AM
Question. How could Lindsay not know she wasnt fit enough to play before they left for Beijing? Its interesting that she pulled out only after the draw was announced.

That's the question that these other Lindsay fans REFUSE to answer.

The answer is that she knew.
They just want to avoid that answer for as long as possible until hopefully others (like me) give up.

It's like I being right there in the Green Bay Packers media room.

enchantrezz
Aug 9th, 2008, 03:11 AM
That's the question that these other Lindsay fans REFUSE to answer.

The answer is that she knew.
They just want to avoid that answer for as long as possible until hopefully others (like me) give up.

It's like I being right there in the Green Bay Packers media room.

well i just hope Lindsay wont disappoint her doubles partner by pulling out or not playing well because she's not fit.

LindsayRulz
Aug 9th, 2008, 03:39 AM
That's the question that these other Lindsay fans REFUSE to answer.

The answer is that she knew.
They just want to avoid that answer for as long as possible until hopefully others (like me) give up.

It's like I being right there in the Green Bay Packers media room.

So the evil Lindsay either knew she couldn't play the Olympics, but still showed up at the ceremonie to do like she was still playing and at the last minute withdrew to steal someone a spot at the Olympics on purpose.

Or she simply focused on the event during all the year long and wanted to see the later possible whether the knee is going to hold up for the week. But Wannabeknowitall thinks the first possibility is a lot more likely than the second one, and he's always right. While us, poor peasants (Lindsay's fans) keep thinking the second one is the right one because we, ignorants, keep thinking Lindsay's good while she is clearly an anti-sociable-evil-bitch.

That sums it all I think.

darkchild
Aug 9th, 2008, 04:05 AM
I think wannabeknowitall is a secret fan.;) And he just could not take any more.
For doubles, if Lisa is substituted for Lindsay, isn't the pair Raymond/Huber fit your criteria: over 30, "fat", slow, etc?
Lindsay really has earned every right to be here and Mattek was not really qualified. Plus there would be an alternate, so it is not like Molik has a walkover to the 2R.

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 9th, 2008, 04:08 AM
So the evil Lindsay either knew she couldn't play the Olympics, but still showed up at the ceremonie to do like she was still playing and at the last minute withdrew to steal someone a spot at the Olympics on purpose.

Or she simply focused on the event during all the year long and wanted to see the later possible whether the knee is going to hold up for the week. But Wannabeknowitall thinks the first possibility is a lot more likely than the second one, and he's always right. While us, poor peasants (Lindsay's fans) keep thinking the second one is the right one because we, ignorants, keep thinking Lindsay's good while she is clearly an anti-sociable-evil-bitch.

That sums it all I think.

No the bitch did a Michelle Kwan. The problem is she did it twice and unlike Michelle at least someone is able to take her place.

That's the issue. She knew the consequences of pulling out and didn't give an opportunity for another healthy player to take her place in doubles.

And this is clearly not a team player attitude.
And I never called her evil.
I've called her sneaky. I've called her selfish. I've called her a bitch.
So if you want to be total douche by overstating what I said then fine but clearly I didn't say that or even imply it.


But the point remains that if this was Serena or Venus this board would be over it like they murdered someone.

But with Lindsay everything is ok.
Sorry i don't roll that way. You want to be bias, fine and you continue to show it but I'm going to call her out on this one.

barboza
Aug 9th, 2008, 04:49 AM
If Lindsay didn't think she had the chance to compete, she would not have gone to the Olympics. She's not a quitter and she clearly pushed herself to the last minute to test her knee. Will you now quit it? As your name suggests, you are clearly someone who is a wannabe know-it-all person.

LindsayRulz
Aug 9th, 2008, 04:55 AM
No the bitch did a Michelle Kwan. The problem is she did it twice and unlike Michelle at least someone is able to take her place.

That's the issue. She knew the consequences of pulling out and didn't give an opportunity for another healthy player to take her place in doubles.

And this is clearly not a team player attitude.
And I never called her evil.
I've called her sneaky. I've called her selfish. I've called her a bitch.
So if you want to be total douche by overstating what I said then fine but clearly I didn't say that or even imply it.


But the point remains that if this was Serena or Venus this board would be over it like they murdered someone.

But with Lindsay everything is ok.
Sorry i don't roll that way. You want to be bias, fine and you continue to show it but I'm going to call her out on this one.

I love the way you are playing the victim while you clearly judged Lindsay through several talkshitting posts about her in this thread, and in fact, you have no clue what she's thinking. You have an opinion and mine is just different and it wasn't necessairy to start to bash me personally...

Meelis
Aug 9th, 2008, 04:58 AM
Official now: Martinez Sanchez takes her place.

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 9th, 2008, 05:04 AM
I think wannabeknowitall is a secret fan.;) And he just could not take any more.
For doubles, if Lisa is substituted for Lindsay, isn't the pair Raymond/Huber fit your criteria: over 30, "fat", slow, etc?
Lindsay really has earned every right to be here and Mattek was not really qualified. Plus there would be an alternate, so it is not like Molik has a walkover to the 2R.

Lisa moves well for her age. She made the choice to not play singles anymore but considering she had Venus on the ropes in 2007 at Wimbledon maybe it wasn't the best choice.

I don't care whether Molik has an opponent to play.
She's going to lose anyway. It could have been another American for doubles.
Obviously some of you live outside of America and just don't understand the nationalistic concept I'm coming from.

The apathy honestly from people for this Olympics is just striking. I'm baffled by it.

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 9th, 2008, 05:10 AM
If Lindsay didn't think she had the chance to compete, she would not have gone to the Olympics. She's not a quitter and she clearly pushed herself to the last minute to test her knee. Will you now quit it? As your name suggests, you are clearly someone who is a wannabe know-it-all person.

Who the fuck are you? :lol:

Wasn't the bad rep enough.

Again as I have mentioned ego can get in the way as it did with Michelle Kwan.
The difference there is that an American alternate was picked.

She's not a quitter? I've seen the women quit on shot after shot in a match when she had a shot at it.
Anyone else one tour would have attempt to get at it.

Again these are things that sometimes work for Lindsay and I can deal with them but don't tell me that :bs:.
Don't tell me she's played to the best of her ability match after match.
Don't tell me she hasn't quit on herself.

She's the Phil Mickelson of women's tennis. I like Phil but his impairments are obvious and pretending he's the next best player after Tiger is delusional to say the least just as your innocent Lindsay plug is.

Uranium
Aug 9th, 2008, 05:11 AM
Lisa moves well for her age. She made the choice to not play singles anymore but considering she had Venus on the ropes in 2007 at Wimbledon maybe it wasn't the best choice.

I don't care whether Molik has an opponent to play.
She's going to lose anyway. It could have been another American for doubles.
Obviously some of you live outside of America and just don't understand the nationalistic concept I'm coming from.

The apathy honestly from people for this Olympics is just striking. I'm baffled by it.

2006;)

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 9th, 2008, 05:15 AM
I love the way you are playing the victim while you clearly judged Lindsay through several talkshitting posts about her in this thread, and in fact, you have no clue what she's thinking. You have an opinion and mine is just different and it wasn't necessairy to start to bash me personally...

My stance was clear a month ago.
I said it would be irrational for Lindsay to do what she did if Lisa could play better in doubles.
I was a bit dissapointed in her then. I'm extremely dissapointed for making the wrong choice now.

It's not like I just sat here for months waiting for Lindsay to fuck up.
I commented that Mary Pierce was being a diva too.

All i know is that Lindsay wasn't being a team player.

Oh please. You have some nerve, implying I'm some egomaniac whose delusional when I've backed my opinion with actions that Lindsay did.

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 9th, 2008, 05:16 AM
2006;)

Thank you. The point remains though that if she dedicated herself, she could have still been a top 40 player.

kwilliams
Aug 9th, 2008, 07:20 AM
It's too bad that Davenport has struggled with injuries so much in what is probably her last year on tour. If anything this will be another reason for her to hang up her racquet at the end of the year. Hopefully she can get back on tour soon and rack up a few more good wins or a tournament or two. Who knows maybe she'll play part of the 2009 season as well but I think she'll retire after the USO 09 at the very latest.

I just hope for the sake of her fans we see as much as possible of her before she does retire.

Elldee
Aug 9th, 2008, 09:37 AM
She put Venus in a sticky situation as the only American with a chance to win a medal for the women with Capriati and Serena out with injuries.





This is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Venus, IMO, doesn't give a shit about anyone else. The sisters weren't at the opening ceremony, they're not in the village - they don't CARE.

Secondly, tennis players lie. 'Oh, i'm not playing, i've hurt my left wrist.' Meaning, they don't want to play. Lindsay didn't go to Athens because she doesn't like being away from home and was in good shape for the Open. And, personally, I think the hip flexor injury was bad luck, not from overplaying. I can see your issue with Beijing [but think you're being OTT], I didn't follow the sydney situation, and then genuinely think the athens issue is nothing... she wasn't there, she shouldn't be judged for that. She let those who want to play - play.

And now we get down to the bones of your ever evolving argument: you are happy for Lindsay to play singles but not doubles. Well, she is playing doubles and she still is and she is looking forward to it, is hungry, is confident, will play and they will do well. And if they don't, it's not for lack of trying. If anything you should be happy with Lindsay's prioritisation of doubles. The knee is tempremental but the real issue was playing so many matches on it.

Similarly, all this talk of Raymond's success with a myriad of different players if guff. A few decent results with Likhovtseva [and some awful losses], a first round or two with Kirilenko... hardly gold winning stuff. Plus, two powder puff servers with much of the same strengths isn't going to cut it.

Noctis
Aug 9th, 2008, 12:02 PM
2006;)

2005 :haha: Oml :haha:

Noctis
Aug 9th, 2008, 12:04 PM
:sad: Lindsay I Am dissapointed like you now

Chriskip
Aug 9th, 2008, 12:11 PM
This is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Venus, IMO, doesn't give a shit about anyone else. The sisters weren't at the opening ceremony, they're not in the village - they don't CARE.

Now that is one of the most inaccurate things I have seen in this whole thread. People you all need to get over this damn lie you all keep posting about the girls not caring. For the most part tennis is an individual sport and like everybody else they have focussed on their own game.....even when players like Lindsay and Hingis admittedly made their pact years ago to gang up on them in tourneys and stop them, by the way. The succeeded despite all of that due to their talent and focus.

Now switch to the whole team play thing....they have been consistent supporters of team USA in both the Olympics and Fed Cup (and also of WTT....some of you all were just recently chastising them for even playing there). Why continue to spread this propaganda about them not caring when they have been the main ones carrying the flag for the same "Team USA" for the past years....even when its obvious that a lot of the "people" they carry this flag for dont even support them. Now look at Lindsay...okay she has a good individual record and also support Team USA...but what about when she made her statement of wishing only to play Fed Cup a few years ago, only if she could have both Venus and Serena playing too. Is it a sign of a good team player if you only want to be on what you consider to be a winning team? What about slaving away with the other little known players and being the leader and the one to help them along? Now imagine if one of the sisters had said that. They always try to turn up and play, even after coming off the most demanding Wimbledon of any other player. Venus especially is so a team player. A lot of the flack they get is because people form opinions of them and wont let them go, even when all the evidence is there to prove otherwise. My God, Lindsay has gotten away with so many things just because she was lucky enough to have been designated the "darling" of American tennis...and trust me, there are numerous instances of her being bitchy that we all know of.

I would love to know how many of these players are really in the Olympic Village, because obviously its now a crime not to be there too. And this whole marching in the opening ceremony thing...Venus and Serena have done that at past olympics. Maybe they think it best not to do so again considering they play 48 hours after all that long standing. In fact, how many other athletes, including tennis players, were not there. If all were there we may still even now be watching the opening ceremony. Gosh, both girls are coming off knee injuries...how wise would they be to be out there for so long, only to be bashed and chastised if they so much as lose 4 games afterward, not to mention their match. Lindsay could afford to be out there because she knew darn well she wouldnt have 2 matches to play in the next 48 hours. And who knows, maybe being in that march was her real reason for being in Beijing anyway. I dont mean to be mean to her but if we are going to look at the worst case motives for others, lets do the same for her. This idea of her getting away with anything in the eyes of many, while others get shafted for the same thing, or less, needs to stop, and it shouldnt have taken the end of her career for this to happen.

cn ireland
Aug 9th, 2008, 12:25 PM
This is very disappointing for Lindsay seeing as this was one of the main reasons for her comeback:sad:.

I really hope that she will be fit enough for 1 last US Open as her retirement now seems inevitable.

Dave.
Aug 9th, 2008, 03:48 PM
Question. How could Lindsay not know she wasnt fit enough to play before they left for Beijing? Its interesting that she pulled out only after the draw was announced.

I'm sure the draw didn't put Lindsay off singles. Her doubles draw is even tougher so by your logic she would have withdrawn from doubles not singles.


No the bitch did a Michelle Kwan. The problem is she did it twice and unlike Michelle at least someone is able to take her place.

That's the issue. She knew the consequences of pulling out and didn't give an opportunity for another healthy player to take her place in doubles.

And this is clearly not a team player attitude.
And I never called her evil.
I've called her sneaky. I've called her selfish. I've called her a bitch.
So if you want to be total douche by overstating what I said then fine but clearly I didn't say that or even imply it.


But the point remains that if this was Serena or Venus this board would be over it like they murdered someone.

But with Lindsay everything is ok.
Sorry i don't roll that way. You want to be bias, fine and you continue to show it but I'm going to call her out on this one.

Lindsay physically cannot play singles. Even if she was not playing doubles, she is not fit enough for singles. Doubles is less physically demanding which is why she can still play that.

Lindsay hasen't done anything wrong or bitchy in this situation. She is not a bitch, she is not arrogant and is a very down-to-earth person. She is modest about her achievements and she does not think of herself as better than everyone else. There is no bias, Lindsay just didn't do anything wrong here.

About Athens, Lindsay was not a part of the team so couldn't do anything wrong there either.


Now that is one of the most inaccurate things I have seen in this whole thread. People you all need to get over this damn lie you all keep posting about the girls not caring. For the most part tennis is an individual sport and like everybody else they have focussed on their own game.....even when players like Lindsay and Hingis admittedly made their pact years ago to gang up on them in tourneys and stop them, by the way. The succeeded despite all of that due to their talent and focus.

Ok, that "pact" thing is a load of nonsens- it was a simple joke in a press conference nothing more. Of course Lindsay and Martina wanted to stop all-Williams finals- if they didn't they shouldn't have been playing.

Now switch to the whole team play thing....they have been consistent supporters of team USA in both the Olympics and Fed Cup (and also of WTT....some of you all were just recently chastising them for even playing there). Why continue to spread this propaganda about them not caring when they have been the main ones carrying the flag for the same "Team USA" for the past years....even when its obvious that a lot of the "people" they carry this flag for dont even support them. Now look at Lindsay...okay she has a good individual record and also support Team USA...but what about when she made her statement of wishing only to play Fed Cup a few years ago, only if she could have both Venus and Serena playing too. Is it a sign of a good team player if you only want to be on what you consider to be a winning team? What about slaving away with the other little known players and being the leader and the one to help them along? Now imagine if one of the sisters had said that. They always try to turn up and play, even after coming off the most demanding Wimbledon of any other player. Venus especially is so a team player. A lot of the flack they get is because people form opinions of them and wont let them go, even when all the evidence is there to prove otherwise. My God, Lindsay has gotten away with so many things just because she was lucky enough to have been designated the "darling" of American tennis...and trust me, there are numerous instances of her being bitchy that we all know of.

Lindsay has played Fed Cup plenty of times without the WS.

What do you mean Lindsay has gotten away with things? What exactly, and who exactly let her off? I hope you're not talking about this board because people will say anything here.

It's stupid to think Lindsay deep down is a bitch and gets away with things. There's a reason why Lindsay is known as the best loved champion after Monica Seles, there's a reason why she has received awards for most approachable player, there's a reason why she is known and respected as a class act around the entire tour. It's because she is a fully commited, through-and-through professional, and thinking she has all along gotten away with everything is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

spartanfan
Aug 9th, 2008, 03:50 PM
My stance was clear a month ago.
I said it would be irrational for Lindsay to do what she did if Lisa could play better in doubles.
I was a bit dissapointed in her then. I'm extremely dissapointed for making the wrong choice now.

It's not like I just sat here for months waiting for Lindsay to fuck up.
I commented that Mary Pierce was being a diva too.

All i know is that Lindsay wasn't being a team player.

Oh please. You have some nerve, implying I'm some egomaniac whose delusional when I've backed my opinion with actions that Lindsay did.
I have to agree with 100% of everything that you've said. The only reason why Davenport hasn't pulled out of doubles is because then she'd be fucking Huber as well. But Davenport knew if she wasn't healthy back in the US she wasn't going to be healthy when she got to China. To me it shows what a selfish person and bitch that she is. I'm ready for her to re-retire already

Elldee
Aug 9th, 2008, 03:54 PM
I have to agree with 100% of everything that you've said. The only reason why Davenport hasn't pulled out of doubles is because then she'd be fucking Huber as well. But Davenport knew if she wasn't healthy back in the US she wasn't going to be healthy when she got to China. To me it shows what a selfish person and bitch that she is. I'm ready for her to re-retire already

That's crap. Her knee is okay. Not great but okay. She'll be fine to play and will play.

barboza
Aug 9th, 2008, 04:16 PM
Ignore baiters like Wannabeknowitall and spartanfan. Don't feed them anymore. Lindsay fully deserves to be at the Olympics and she has worked hard to come back for it. Period.

spartanfan
Aug 9th, 2008, 05:03 PM
Ignore baiters like Wannabeknowitall and spartanfan. Don't feed them anymore. Lindsay fully deserves to be at the Olympics and she has worked hard to come back for it. Period.
Yea ignore us because you know we're right. Yea, Davenport earned the right to play but should have shown some class and pulled out early enough to let another healthy player have a chance to play in the Olympics. But don't worry, KARMA will catch back up with her ass!:devil:

Dave.
Aug 9th, 2008, 05:10 PM
Yea ignore us because you know we're right. Yea, Davenport earned the right to play but should have shown some class and pulled out early enough to let another healthy player have a chance to play in the Olympics. But don't worry, KARMA will catch back up with her ass!:devil:

What do you mean let another player play? She's not fit enough for singles and there are no other players available. Doubles she is fit enough to play. I think you're just looking for reasons to bring her down, but she hasen't done anything wrong.

spartanfan
Aug 9th, 2008, 08:47 PM
What do you mean let another player play? She's not fit enough for singles and there are no other players available. Doubles she is fit enough to play. I think you're just looking for reasons to bring her down, but she hasen't done anything wrong.
No, my point is that she knew she was unfit to play before leaving America, when a substitution could have been made for another American player to play in the Olympics. Davenport brought her ownself down.

The Daviator
Aug 9th, 2008, 08:56 PM
No, my point is that she knew she was unfit to play before leaving America, when a substitution could have been made for another American player to play in the Olympics. Davenport brought her ownself down.

Another American player who didn't reach the Olympic standard? You really aren't getting the point, Lindsay earned her Olympic experience through winning matches and getting the 3rd USA spot, she went and enjoyed the opening ceremony and the village and all the other things that the qualified athletes enjoy, that's their right and privilege for qualifying.

And after saying all that, Lindsay will still compete in the doubles, I really don't know why Lisa Raymond is being brought into the conversation, there will be two USA teams in the doubles - Williams/Williams and Davenport/Huber :confused:

Dave.
Aug 9th, 2008, 10:03 PM
No, my point is that she knew she was unfit to play before leaving America, when a substitution could have been made for another American player to play in the Olympics. Davenport brought her ownself down.

NO OTHER AMERICAN PLAYERS QUALIFIED FOR THE OLYMPICS SINGLES EVENT.

LINDSAY IS STILL FIT ENOUGH FOR DOUBLES SO NO SUBSTITUTIONS WERE NEEDED FOR THAT.


What don't you understand?

Lindsayfan32
Aug 9th, 2008, 10:51 PM
No, my point is that she knew she was unfit to play before leaving America, when a substitution could have been made for another American player to play in the Olympics. Davenport brought her ownself down.

You are wrong there. Lindsay said yesterday that there was a small chance that she wouldn't be able to play singles. Your worse than a dog with a bone. Lindsay is playing in the doubles and that should be end of it. I just hope her health holds up so Lindsay can hopefully content for a medal and by the way Ivan Ljubicic is doing the same as Lindsay because of a back injury so he a selfish prick too?

spartanfan
Aug 9th, 2008, 11:04 PM
And who said that no other American besides Davenport qualified for the Olympics, that is a lie! Face the fact Davenport is a self-centered bitch!!

Matt01
Aug 9th, 2008, 11:13 PM
Face the fact Davenport is a self-centered bitch!!


Face the fact you are a stupid troll. :p

spartanfan
Aug 9th, 2008, 11:27 PM
Face the fact you are a stupid troll. :p
Ya mama's a stupid fat troll bitch!

Shoulderpova
Aug 9th, 2008, 11:28 PM
Lindzi :hug:

Matt01
Aug 9th, 2008, 11:32 PM
Ya mama's a stupid fat troll bitch!


:rolls:

spartanfan
Aug 9th, 2008, 11:33 PM
put a fork in her.

Worst.Comeback.Ever.
LOL. I know what a waste.