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Cp6uja
Jul 12th, 2008, 06:36 PM
Alize Cornet, upcoming tennis star from France, is currently youngest TOP20 player and tommorow she will (probably) reach her career first title in Budampest. Actualy she is only 1990+ player together with #30 Wozniacki ranked in TOP50 (including ATP). So all looks so good in her case, almost perfect, BUT... her case is totaly unique, so i want to start discussion about that. Is she realy on good way like seems from her meteoric improvement in rankings or her unique way is actualy big mistake?

Last season she become maybe first player ever in WTA history with more than 40 matches at claycourt surface in one single season (in ATP even Nadal never managed that, only Davydenko) and this season together with Almagro she is only one with 30+ claycourt matches. She is born 1990, but looking at all WTA players which is born after 1985 only Dinara Safina played in whole career so far more claycourt matches than Cornet in just last two years :eek:. If we look all her seasons she played 100% of her 2005 matches at clay, 62% in 2006, 70% in 2007 and 77% so far in 2008, which means she played at clay 82 of her 114 career matches (72%!!!) which is totaly unique case, especialy if we talking about TOP100 players. Out of clay (61-21) her career W/L record at all other surfaces is just 16-16 (which include only 6 TOP100 wins) and without her claycourt points in last 12 months Alize will be ranked about #150 place :tape: at WTA right now (at hardcourts, grass, carpet, she reach just about 200 of her about 1300 overal points from last 52 weeks). I watch her match at USO/07 against Jankovic and she is not so bad at all, but because she ignoring and avoid all other surfaces (except clay) no big progress in her game (except at clay of course).

So what you thinking about Alize Cornet career strategy so far?


EDIT: Here is Alize Cornet career stats (by surfaces) in tables:

SEASON OVERALL CLAY OTHERS SUMMARY
2005: 1- 1 1- 1 0- 0 at clay - 2 of 2 matches
2006: 9- 4 6- 2 3- 2 at clay - 8 of 13 matches
2007: 42-18 31-11 11- 7 at clay - 42 of 60 matches
2008: 25-14 *23- 7 2- 7 at clay - 30 of 39 matches
OVERALL: 77-37 61-21 16-16 at clay - 82 of 114 matches
* - i counted tommorows final like win already :devil:



Here is some interesting facts about "Experience" of active slam winners at clay:

Alize Cornet since 2007: 72 claycourt matches
Svetlana Kuznetsova since 2003: 91 claycourt matches
Serena Williams since 2000: 79 claycourt matches
Venus Williams since 2003: 78 claycourt matches
Maria Sharapova: 57 career claycourt matches
Ana Ivanovic: 52 career claycourt matches
Lindsay Davenport since 2000: 48 claycourt matches
Amelie Mauresmo since 2005: 41 claycourt matches

RenaSlam.
Jul 12th, 2008, 06:38 PM
She won't be as good on other surfaces. Her serve is weakk.

Lucas
Jul 12th, 2008, 06:44 PM
Yeah, for now she's a clay court specialist, and also she has to put on some more muscles in order to play a more effective tennis on the other surfaces.

But, anyways, if she's followed by a good team, she has plenty of time to improve and adapt her game to hard courts (indoor and grass is a different story). Time is on her side, after all. No need to draw conclusions at this point, really.

ZAK
Jul 12th, 2008, 06:59 PM
Clay will always be her best surface, but she has shown some signs of good play on hardcourts. Grass on the other hand...

hankqq
Jul 12th, 2008, 07:26 PM
I think clay will be her best surface throughout her career, but I think with her game she can do well on hardcourts too. She'll probably struggle on grass, and I'm not sure indoors will be good for her either. Who knows-maybe with experience she'll do better on other surfaces in the future. I think she's too young for us to say "she'll only do well on clay".

ASP0315
Jul 12th, 2008, 07:36 PM
i only saw her on clay so far. She got a prety good grinding game but her serve is pretty weak. i think she can develop other weapons in future though. At the moment she is a clay specialist. ;)

Malva
Jul 12th, 2008, 07:41 PM
A promising thread. Not that I have much to contribute myself but will be following what others have to say.

twight6
Jul 12th, 2008, 07:41 PM
That much play on clay is a little extreme...

But it's working for her :shrug:

Her game (right now) is definitely most suited for clay, so she's smart just to play on clay. Sure, if she played other surfaces she'd improve quicker, but she just wants to get up the rankings, make money, and have good results, and so far she can do that just on clay :shrug:

iPatty
Jul 12th, 2008, 07:45 PM
Her game is well-suited for clay, yes. However she should be just as good on hardcourts. She isn't some moonballer, she hits the ball nicely, and can flatten that backhand out when she needs too. I am not worried she is going to become a clay-court extremist, as you put it. Of course right now she is a clay-court specialist because that is all she has had a chance to play on this year so far. I think we will see good things from her on hardcourts too.

Slumpsova
Jul 12th, 2008, 07:50 PM
of course, she is. i don't think she is the only one thought.

Cp6uja
Jul 12th, 2008, 07:56 PM
Here is Alize Cornet career stats (by surfaces) in tabel:

SEASON OVERALL CLAY OTHERS SUMMARY
2005: 1- 1 1- 1 0- 0 at clay - 2 of 2 matches
2006: 9- 4 6- 2 3- 2 at clay - 8 of 13 matches
2007: 42-18 31-11 11- 7 at clay - 42 of 60 matches
2008: 25-14 *23- 7 2- 7 at clay - 30 of 39 matches
OVERALL: 77-37 61-21 16-16 at clay - 82 of 114 matches
* - i counted tommorows final like win already :devil:



Here is some interesting facts about "Experience" of active slam winners at clay:

Alize Cornet since 2007: 72 claycourt matches
Svetlana Kuznetsova since 2003: 91 claycourt matches
Serena Williams since 2000: 79 claycourt matches
Venus Williams since 2003: 78 claycourt matches
Maria Sharapova: 57 career claycourt matches
Ana Ivanovic: 52 career claycourt matches
Lindsay Davenport since 2000: 48 claycourt matches
Amelie Mauresmo since 2005: 41 claycourt matches

Kworb
Jul 12th, 2008, 08:08 PM
Fascinating thread, one of your best :eek:

hablo
Jul 12th, 2008, 08:34 PM
Here is Alize Cornet career stats (by surfaces) in tabel:

SEASON OVERALL CLAY OTHERS SUMMARY
2005: 1- 1 1- 1 0- 0 at clay - 2 of 2 matches
2006: 9- 4 6- 2 3- 2 at clay - 8 of 13 matches
2007: 42-18 31-11 11- 7 at clay - 42 of 60 matches
2008: 25-14 *23- 7 2- 7 at clay - 30 of 39 matches
OVERALL: 77-37 61-21 16-16 at clay - 82 of 114 matches
* - i counted tommorows final like win already :devil:



Here is some interesting facts about "Experience" of active slam winners at clay:

Alize Cornet since 2007: 72 claycourt matches
Svetlana Kuznetsova since 2003: 91 claycourt matches
Serena Williams since 2000: 79 claycourt matches
Venus Williams since 2003: 78 claycourt matches
Maria Sharapova: 57 career claycourt matches
Ana Ivanovic: 52 career claycourt matches
Lindsay Davenport since 2000: 48 claycourt matches
Amelie Mauresmo since 2005: 41 claycourt matches

How many has Momo played since 2003 or 2000 ?
Why the difference in years here ?

Noctis
Jul 12th, 2008, 08:43 PM
Shes also a Chair Specialist,The Empire today ask her to fix her chair today lol,she done it in 2 secs,

Ceri
Jul 12th, 2008, 08:57 PM
Nice thread :-) hope Alize makes successful transition to other surfaces in the future.

Cp6uja
Jul 12th, 2008, 09:01 PM
How many has Momo played since 2003 or 2000 ?
Why the difference in years here ?That is irelevant for this subject... i just want to present more close how is "monster" number of matches which young Alize played at clay last year and half ago (since 2007).

BTW Amelie Mauresmo played in her career so far 175 matches at clay - but dont forget that she is PRO since 1995 (14 seasons).

ViennaCalling
Jul 12th, 2008, 09:56 PM
Well, she´s really good on Clay.

On other surfaces: Uhm ... Slumping Tamira won against her, so i guess not that good (on clay she would have won against Tamira 6-1 6-1 :p )

colt13
Jul 12th, 2008, 10:50 PM
Hmmm..., i wonder what Kirilenko's numbers are like?

This is interesting because i think she can do well on hardcourts but to have that many more matches on clay stands out. A good sign for her is that she was willing to play singles, doubles and mixed on grass and might for the US Open.

Cp6uja
Jul 12th, 2008, 11:40 PM
I just checked - with about 1100 points from clay (under or over depending on tommorows Budampest final result) Alize Cornet is just one of 4 players which reach in last 12 months at claycourt tournaments more than 1000 pts (actualy except Cornet only three others reach more than 850 pts at clay). This three others is Ana Ivanovic, Jelena Jankovic and Dinara Safina (leader with 1225 pts).

:eek:Hmmm..., i wonder what Kirilenko's numbers are like?Kirilenko this season have very bad results at other surfaces and at clay better than ever, but in generaly percentage of matches which she played at claycourt surface is typical for career of some WTA player. She played so far about 160 PRO matches and about 40 at clay (about 25%). So she is not even close to be compared with Cornet 72% monster career percentage.

Volcana
Jul 12th, 2008, 11:45 PM
She's 18 years old.
She ranked #20 in the world.
She's made a Tier I final, a SF in another Teir I, and a Tier II final.
She's beaten two top ten players (I don't count walkovers), and another couple top twenty players.


Does her way work in terms of player development? Of course it does! She's hardly a finished product! Specializing on clay means long points, and having to learn to strategize. Maybe she won't ever be a really good player on other surfaces, but she could easily turn out to have the career of say, Iva Majoli. A couple years in the top ten, seven or eight singles titles and a slam. That would have to be called success.

Cp6uja
Jul 13th, 2008, 09:05 AM
She's 18 years old.
She ranked #20 in the world.
She's made a Tier I final, a SF in another Teir I, and a Tier II final.
She's beaten two top ten players (I don't count walkovers), and another couple top twenty players.


Does her way work in terms of player development? Of course it does! She's hardly a finished product! Specializing on clay means long points, and having to learn to strategize. Maybe she won't ever be a really good player on other surfaces, but she could easily turn out to have the career of say, Iva Majoli. A couple years in the top ten, seven or eight singles titles and a slam. That would have to be called success.No doubt that player which is able to play at final of tier-I claycourt tournament and have other very good results is probably already worlds TOP10 at this surface. In one interview after Rome she is very fiery on Anna Chakvetadze which called her "good junior" and in one of threads here i explain that young Cornet have all rights to be anger because atleast at clay she played more matches (so have more "experience") than Anna or any other player of Chaky generation.

But my question is will that help her at end or she will pay high price b/c totaly postpone her improvment at all other surfaces? For example, last season after Wimbledon she played US Open, one tier-III HC indoors, and 5 claycourt ITF tournaments - is that realy so smart?

Elldee
Jul 13th, 2008, 09:16 AM
But my question is will that help her at end or she will pay high price b/c totaly postpone her improvment at all other surfaces? For example, last season after Wimbledon she played US Open, one tier-III HC indoors, and 5 claycourt ITF tournaments - is that realy so smart?


There's no way as a top 20 player she'll play any clay ITFs so this season she will get to grips with hardcourt. Last years US open and strong tournaments like Paris indoors at the start of the year [it was a strong performance for her at the time] indicate that she's ready to play on hard but knows that clay is her best and is making the most of it [a bit like Nadal does]. I still, for years to come, expect her to play a schedule a bit like AMG and returning to the clay when she can. Plus, in eastbourne [where by playing a grass warm-up she showed she wanted to do well] and eastbourne she had tough draws and was hardly demolished.

Alizé Molik
Jul 13th, 2008, 09:48 AM
last year was her first year on the tour, and she started the year ranked like 190 so it's not as if you can compare her USO preparation last year to what she'll do this year.

In terms of her entire career, she's played the last couple of years on ITF, and predominantly in Europe which is mostly played on clay, which is a surface that suits her game a lot..so it's more coincidence and good planning than any specific intent to create some 100% clay player.

janko
Jul 13th, 2008, 10:56 AM
I think the only problem is that Alizé is actually going far in every clay court tournament she plays, that's why she has such a high amount of matches on that surface.

Look at the situation, she's only 18 and was still playing a few juniors GS last year when she wasn't in the top 100

She has played the 4 GS, qualified for the AO and USO and made it to the 2nd round as a LL in Wimbledon

After Wimbledon she approached the top 100 by playing strong ITF's on clay in Europe (one victory and one SF) and qualified without problems after for the USO where she reached the 3rd round

Before the FO she had a normal clay court season, qualifying and winning a few matches in MD in South America and reaching the QF at Fes

I think another important factors is that all the strongs ITF's in France or Europe are played on clay (Cagnes sur mer, Bordeaux, Saint Gaudens, and so on) that's the occasion to make more points.

And last year as a non top 100 and non 18 yo she has a limited schedule and played well in every tournament, that's why she has such a ranking, she's deserving it.

Still a better choice for a good clay courter to play on clay before a clay court GS! Cleverer than playing on green clay and in Asia!

I think we'll see a difference next year when Alizé won't have the possibility to choose all her tournaments. The grass court factor is not a good one because the grass season is so short that it's hard to call it a season, and there are very few players on tour that really know how to play on that surface.

Let's see after the Olympics, the US Open and the indoor season what she can do, last year I also think she had to pass exams at the end of the season, playing only Quebec City and Poitiers for her return.

rockstar
Jul 13th, 2008, 11:44 AM
Well, she´s really good on Clay.

On other surfaces: Uhm ... Slumping Tamira won against her, so i guess not that good (on clay she would have won against Tamira 6-1 6-1 :p )

sheesh, stop whining about how tamira is slumping in every thread ok? :weirdo:

sebdenice
Jul 13th, 2008, 01:02 PM
Janko it's a real pleasure to read your analysis, 'cause I know that everything is right.
Let her developp her game through an entire season without any restriction in number of tournament, and then we'll see how good she can play on hard surface.
An addtionnal point, her technic is still evolving, take a look and compare her serve and forehand and backhand this year and last year, you'll probably understand how she can improve her game

akephon35695
Jul 13th, 2008, 01:57 PM
This season is just her breakthrough season on maintour and her result is come together at big clay tournament that why we worry about cause of this thread .Last season was not count because for young and up-coming player like her that a good idea to play on your familiar surface to get higher ranking.Don't worry about it we will see her more for coming up US hardcourt and her game on hardcourt that not bad.But she need to use more flat shot and going more for her shot if she want to challenge the tops on quicker surface.

Dawson.
Jul 13th, 2008, 02:44 PM
i think this year, its good for her ranking. but if she was to have a similar schedule next year, then its time to worry.

Kovalchuk
Jul 13th, 2008, 03:14 PM
Shes also a Chair Specialist,The Empire today ask her to fix her chair today lol,she done it in 2 secs,

i think she fix her MIC, so Alize is also MIC Specialist :worship:

Julian
Jul 13th, 2008, 03:56 PM
so she better win the French Open one day lol

améliemomo
Jul 13th, 2008, 04:23 PM
that discussion reminds me a little bit of one about Henin qualifying her as claycourt specialist because she won so many tournaments on that surface.
Then she became to win on hard courts and win on them.I think alize cornet has a real room of improvments to do well on hard courts,she has to gain some muscular form to hit the ball harder and challenge more the big hitters of the tour.
I think its too soon to judge a young player like that whereas she hasnt played so many hardcourts tournaments.
She can developp more her game and be a complete player like henin was.She has good mental strengh.

AnywhereButHome
Jul 13th, 2008, 04:42 PM
Bad career strategy. Good for current ranking, but not good for her future.

Volcana
Jul 13th, 2008, 05:34 PM
But my question is will that help her at end or she will pay high price b/c totaly postpone her improvment at all other surfaces? For example, last season after Wimbledon she played US Open, one tier-III HC indoors, and 5 claycourt ITF tournaments - is that realy so smart?If you look at the Williams sisters, and to a lesser extent, Marion Bartoli, I think it's pretty clear that there are a lot of different ways to develop a professional tennis player.


Is Cornet really one of the twenty best at her chosen profession? That's unproven. The ranking system is, at best, a crude and inaccurate tool for measuring relative skill. However, it's safe to say she's one of the FORTY best. And consdiering that thousands of women every year are trying to be professional tennis players, to be able to say that you certainly in the top five percent at age 18 is an accomplishment.


I'd say she's already proven her way works. Would another way work better? Who knows? But as I said, haven't we been having this discussion about Venus ans Serena Williams for ten years? Would ____________ have been better if she'd chosen a more traditional route? No one can answer that. What we DO know is, her way worked.

PLP
Jul 13th, 2008, 06:01 PM
I am a bit concerned about the wear and tear on her body. She is still quite young, but most players seem to have that concern when it comes to picking their clay schedules. It has been great at developing her game so far, but I hope that next season is a bit different. IMO, there is no reason that she can't excel on the other surfaces, she just needs more experience on them.

Cp6uja
Jul 13th, 2008, 07:04 PM
I remember one discussion here (b/c i'm also involved) about finish of 2005 season (october) - who have smarter shedule of two young upcoming "stars"... Ivanovic or Vaidisova. Nicole played in that october three Asian tier-III/tier-IV tournament and won all three and Ana played classic tier-I/tier-II shedule for elite players - Filderstadt(R32), Zurich(SF) and Linz(SF). Vaidisova started october/05 like #24 and finished season like #15 and Ivanovic started like #18 and finished like #16. Many posters suggest that Ana should learn of Nicole how to create "smart" shedule for one upcoming player because she managed in that month at end of season to improve in rankings about 10 places, reach three titles and learn "winning" WTA events. But now we know that winning several tier-III or tier-IV tournaments is not so helpfull at all to reach tier-II (or above) final and at other hand, playing strongest tournaments (no mater about competition or surface) is not best way for young player to improve in rankings, but yes in her game.

No doubt that Alize will always have much better results at clay in all cases... but is 72% at claycourt surface isn't litle too much. For example out of mandatory tournaments (AO, Wim, USO and Miami) and "her" Paris indoors, she played in last 3 seasons just 10 career matches at all other surfaces (most, 4, at 25K Hardcourt event in Biberach GER in 2006). She simple played out of clay ONLY when must, and that is reason why her case is so unique so far even in comparation with most famouos ATP claycourt specialist from Spain or Argentina (atlest TOP50 ATP players have 13 mandatory events).

AnomyBC
Jul 13th, 2008, 07:16 PM
She definitely is a clay court EXTREMIST. Apparently she was part of Safin's plan a few years ago to burn down Wimbledon. The plan was for Safin to hide the gasoline and matches in her nostrils and then pull them out at the one time when he knew no one would be paying attention---during a men's doubles match. But the plan went horribly wrong when Safin's entire upper body wound up being sucked into Alize's nose. It took a team of 15 English ball boys more than 24 hours to pull him out. One of the ball boys was so traumatized by the experience that he promised his mother that he'd "never make a face like that again". Anyway, after that they never tried that plan again, but they did come up with a new plan to try to convince Wimbledon to switch to a slower grass mixture---and, thankfully for them, that plan turned out to be much more successful.

Volcana
Jul 13th, 2008, 09:37 PM
I remember one discussion here (b/c i'm also involved) about finish of 2005 season (october) - who have smarter shedule of two young upcoming "stars"... Ivanovic or Vaidisova. Nicole played in that october three Asian tier-III/tier-IV tournament and won all three and Ana played classic tier-I/tier-II shedule for elite players - Filderstadt(R32), Zurich(SF) and Linz(SF). Vaidisova started october/05 like #24 and finished season like #15 and Ivanovic started like #18 and finished like #16. Many posters suggest that Ana should learn of Nicole how to create "smart" shedule for one upcoming player because she managed in that month at end of season to improve in rankings about 10 places, reach three titles and learn "winning" WTA events. But now we know that winning several tier-III or tier-IV tournaments is not so helpfull at all to reach tier-II (or above) final and at other hand, playing strongest tournaments (no mater about competition or surface) is not best way for young player to improve in rankings, but yes in her game.We only know that about one case. There was quite a famous player who insisted on playing all the big events instead of focusing on smaller ones and working her way up. Anna Kournikova. How'd that work out?


Cornet just won her first WTA title, something most WTA players never accomplish. She ranked in the top twenty. Again, something most WTA players never accomplish. She may never win a slam, but she's ridiculously far ahead of most WTA players at her age. As for Vaidisova vs Ivanovic, may we note that Vaidisova is a headcase, while Ivanovic is fairly level-headed. Emotional maturity may more to do with the current accomplishments of the respective players than what level events they chose to play. And given that Ivanovic is a year-and-a-half older, a difference in emotional maturity, given their respective ages, is rather to be expected.

Cp6uja
Jul 16th, 2008, 04:02 PM
If we not count Grass 4-weeks season and FED CUP week pause, since April Alize Cornet played every week some clay tournament (7 tournaments, and RG is two-weekers) :eek::eek::eek:

Actualy she try to play FULL 100 days claycourt season (with grass pause) but at last step in Bad Gastein she stumble and must withdraw already in first match.

Her next tournament is Beijing Olimpics and she will be one of 16 tournaments seeds... but will she be ready against some average #50 opponent at hardcourts after so dirty career shedule?

Mightymirza
Jul 16th, 2008, 04:38 PM
she also has game for other surfaces definately..She played very well at USO last year..Shuda beaten janko..

Julian
Jul 16th, 2008, 04:39 PM
very interesting. maybe she just loves clay?? lol but hopefully the plan is to bring her ranking up, and gain the experience that she can bring into the main events.

Cp6uja
Aug 13th, 2008, 02:32 PM
After US Open 2007, Alize Cornet agin at Beijing prove that she is not so helpless at hardcourts, so i think again that she overdosed herself with clay... why she for example after grass season insist on Europian Red Clay Mickey Mouse tournaments (Budampest and Bad Gastein) instead to play US Open Series (Stanford, LA or Montreal) where field is weak this Olympics season and she have perfect chance to reach more points and which is more important - to improve her game out of clay.

saint2
Aug 13th, 2008, 02:34 PM
After US Open 2007, Alize Cornet agin at Beijing prove that she is not so helpless at hardcourts, so i think again that she overdosed herself with clay... why she for example after grass season insist on Europian Red Clay Mickey Mouse tournaments (Budampest and Bad Gastein) instead to play US Open Series (Stanford, LA or Montreal) where field is weak this Olympics season and she have perfect chance to reach more points and which is more important - to improve her game out of clay.


Thanks to that "Mickey Mouse tournaments" she has a first single title...Would she achieved that playing in LA or Montreal?

debby
Aug 13th, 2008, 03:38 PM
Thanks to that "Mickey Mouse tournaments" she has a first single title...Would she achieved that playing in LA or Montreal?

Wozniak has actually won LA :tape: and I don't think she is a big deal... :shrug:

saint2
Aug 13th, 2008, 03:43 PM
Wozniak has actually won LA :tape: and I don't think she is a big deal... :shrug:

Wozniak plays well last time... Alize will have a lot of chances to show great play on clay...

Cp6uja
Aug 13th, 2008, 05:24 PM
Thanks to that "Mickey Mouse tournaments" she has a first single title...Would she achieved that playing in LA or Montreal?I'm not talking about Francheska Schiavone case which commit to play in Bad Gastein at 27 last season only to reach her career first title - this thread is about currently 2nd youngest WTA TOP50 player! Alize is 18yo and she is last person in WTA TOP100 which need to panic b/c still dont have title, and on other hand lack of experience at all other surfaces out of clay became already warning for some TOP20. She reach at this two Mickey Mouse career title and about 150pts with 30.000$ prize money. Other talented youngster Slovakian Dominika Cibulkova still never won title but instead waste her time at Europian Red Clay MM tournaments in Austria and Hungary in her neighborhood, she compete at US Open Series tier-I and tier-II hardcourt tournaments and reach about 400pts with 120.000$ and much improve her HC performance.

saint2
Aug 13th, 2008, 05:28 PM
I'm not talking about Francheska Schiavone case which commit to play in Bad Gastein at 27 last season only to reach her career first title - this thread is about currently 2nd youngest WTA TOP50 player! Alize is 18yo and she is last person in WTA TOP100 which need to panic b/c still dont have title, and on other hand lack of experience at all other surfaces out of clay became already warning for some TOP20. She reach at this two Mickey Mouse career title and about 150pts with 30.000$ prize money. Other talented youngster Slovakian Dominika Cibulkova still never won title but instead waste her time at Europian Red Clay MM tournaments in Austria and Hungary in her neighborhood, she compete at US Open Series tier-I and tier-II hardcourt tournaments and reach about 400pts with 120.000$ and much improve her HC performance.

Wich ranking Dominka has?
Wich ranking Alize has?

Title is always title. Alize shows in OG that she already has improved HC game. Last year, she was ranked outside top100, came to Wimbledon as a qualifier, never seen a grass before...and defeated Kirilenko. It matters something...

starin
Aug 13th, 2008, 05:29 PM
her game on hard is not bad. she moves very well and that'll work on all surfaces. It's just her forehand is not as much of a weapon on hard or grass. But her backhand if she can keep the UE down on that side is an effective shot. It's pretty flat though. She just needs to adjust her strategy on hard and maybe work on flattening out her forehand or iono do something with it. As it is right now it's attackable on hard.

ElusiveChanteuse
Apr 29th, 2009, 03:33 PM
Bump.:)