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Wojtek
Jul 10th, 2008, 11:48 AM
For me Dementieva / Myskina RG 2004

frenchie
Jul 10th, 2008, 11:53 AM
pffff

Elena played crap in that match but Nastya was playing great!

NeeemZ
Jul 10th, 2008, 11:55 AM
RG 03: Henin v Clijsters - I expected a better match. There was nothing remotely special about the match itself.

Shvedbarilescu
Jul 10th, 2008, 11:57 AM
No Grand Slam men's or women's final over the last decade put a bigger smile on my face than did RG 2004 so I'm sure as hell not going to support the statement that that is the lowest quality final. Anything that makes Chris smile is high quality. Period.

Adal
Jul 10th, 2008, 11:58 AM
RG 03, 04, 05 were all pretty bad :(

jimbo mack
Jul 10th, 2008, 11:59 AM
there's too many to choose from lol

but french open 02, 04 and 07 are the ones that first spring to my mind

the french seems to be the worst in terms of quality, but also have had some high quality and dramatic ones too 89,92,93,95,96,98,99,01

OsloErik
Jul 10th, 2008, 11:59 AM
The 1993 Wimbledon final (Graf beating Novotna) was horrendous. It started off innocently enough, with nervous service games from both. Then Novotna steadied a little in the 2nd, while Graf continued to be uneven. Then, without Graf getting any better, Novotna got SO MUCH WORSE it was embarrassing. She couldn't keep the ball in the court for more than three shots. The fact that Graf played badly enough to keep it at 6-4, that's saying something. I feel like Camille Pin could've beaten either one on that day.

tennnisfannn
Jul 10th, 2008, 12:03 PM
pffff

Elena played crap in the match but Nastya was playing great!
they did say they were such close friends it was difficult to play their best. I am pretty sure that was Elena's remark (perhaps it was a friends' decision)

Dave.
Jul 10th, 2008, 12:38 PM
The 1993 Wimbledon final (Graf beating Novotna) was horrendous. It started off innocently enough, with nervous service games from both. Then Novotna steadied a little in the 2nd, while Graf continued to be uneven. Then, without Graf getting any better, Novotna got SO MUCH WORSE it was embarrassing. She couldn't keep the ball in the court for more than three shots. The fact that Graf played badly enough to keep it at 6-4, that's saying something. I feel like Camille Pin could've beaten either one on that day.

:lol: It's not that bad, is it? 1st set was okay, but then the 2nd and 3rd up to 4-1 Novotna was playing high quality stuff. It's just the end of the match where Graf comes back that's real low quality IMO.


Anyway, in answer to the topic, lowest quality slam final of recent years is probably French 05, French 07 and special mention to Wimbledon 04.

mr_burns
Jul 10th, 2008, 12:44 PM
I really get bored by clijsters pierce at the us open, mary was awful that day

John.
Jul 10th, 2008, 12:48 PM
There have been a few stinkers the past few years

Hardiansf
Jul 10th, 2008, 12:48 PM
Oz : 1995, Pierce def ASV
French : 2004, 2007, 2005, 2003
Wimbledon : mmm... none
USO : 2005, 2007

OsloErik
Jul 10th, 2008, 01:50 PM
:lol: It's not that bad, is it? 1st set was okay, but then the 2nd and 3rd up to 4-1 Novotna was playing high quality stuff. It's just the end of the match where Graf comes back that's real low quality IMO.

UGH, I find the whole thing almost unwatchable. And I watch anything!

In the past ten years, I'd have to say Mary Pierce's showings in both of her '05 finals were wretched. If she weren't French, the French Open would have been murder, and if Clijsters weren't going for a slam, nobody would've cared about the US Open.

OsloErik
Jul 10th, 2008, 01:52 PM
OH, and special mention for the French in 2002. Over 50 unforced errors in two sets? Ouch. If it were anyone but Venus and Serena, I would have taped over it ages ago.

slamchamp
Jul 10th, 2008, 03:25 PM
french 2007

kwilliams
Jul 10th, 2008, 03:28 PM
FO 2004 and FO 2008 spring to mind.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jul 10th, 2008, 03:29 PM
In a highest quality Finals thread is more difficult to choose

~Cherry*Blossom~
Jul 10th, 2008, 03:30 PM
OH, and special mention for the French in 2002. Over 50 unforced errors in two sets? Ouch. If it were anyone but Venus and Serena, I would have taped over it ages ago.

:haha: Same here ;) I can only watch the first two/three games of the second set. That's about it :rolls:

As for other crappy finals:

AO 06
FO 03, 04, 05, 07
USO 05, 07

ElusiveChanteuse
Jul 10th, 2008, 03:35 PM
Ao 07!:d

sammy01
Jul 10th, 2008, 03:40 PM
i realy felt pain watching venus vs serena wimbledon '03, the rallies were horrible (serena played some baffling shots) and venus was injured yet serena made it last 3 sets and 2 hours. i realy feel had it been serena against an injured maria she would have taken pleasure in slaughtering her but because it was sis a slam final and venus in obvious pain it made it just a car crash watch, i felt sorry for both that day.
at least they sorted it out this year and if its to be the last all williams final is was miles better than the previous last!

$uricate
Jul 10th, 2008, 03:44 PM
FO 02 :tape:
FO 03 too.

clementine
Jul 10th, 2008, 05:11 PM
Too many to list.

You'd get a shorter list naming the high quality grand slam finals.

LindsayRulz
Jul 10th, 2008, 05:14 PM
US Open 04

In The Zone
Jul 10th, 2008, 05:14 PM
they did say they were such close friends it was difficult to play their best. I am pretty sure that was Elena's remark (perhaps it was a friends' decision)

Omg. :rolls: :death:

I would say RG 05. Mary just was so nervous and couldn't come up with the goods. :(

Markus
Jul 10th, 2008, 05:15 PM
Wimbledon 1998 was no fun to watch, such nervous performances.

gmak
Jul 10th, 2008, 05:21 PM
FO 2003-2004-2005 were all awful :o
the fact that Kim, Lena and Mary never really showed up doesn't make it any better :(

The Kaz
Jul 10th, 2008, 05:29 PM
AO 07 :yawn: & RG 07 :tape:

Williamsser
Jul 10th, 2008, 06:00 PM
Justine has been so dominant that it makes the finals lopsided.

Geisha
Jul 10th, 2008, 06:33 PM
Omg. :rolls: :death:

I would say RG 05. Mary just was so nervous and couldn't come up with the goods. :(

I think Mary said that she wasn't nervous at all...she was just too calm.

kiwifan
Jul 10th, 2008, 06:34 PM
The year Monica wouldn't grunt at Wimbledon.

:(

Geisha
Jul 10th, 2008, 06:35 PM
AO 07 :yawn: & RG 07 :tape:

I have no problem watching Serena hit screaming winners past opponents.

Serenita
Jul 10th, 2008, 06:40 PM
For me Dementieva / Myskina RG 2004

In The Zone
Jul 10th, 2008, 06:44 PM
I have no problem watching Serena hit screaming winners past opponents.

Anyone who says 2007 Melbourne is clearly a hater. That was marvelous tennis played by Serena. The best complete match I think I've ever seen anyone play. Just flawless. A scoreline doesn't mean low quality.

Dodoboy.
Jul 10th, 2008, 07:34 PM
Anyone who says 2007 Melbourne is clearly a hater. That was marvelous tennis played by Serena. The best complete match I think I've ever seen anyone play. Just flawless. A scoreline doesn't mean low quality.

Agreed.

It's like someone downplaying the match where JMac took Jimmy Connors to the cleaners in a wimbledon final :drool:

Viktymise
Jul 10th, 2008, 07:35 PM
RG 02.

Terrible match. Neither could hit snow off a rope that day. It felt like there was about 100 UE's between them by the end of the match.

CanIGetAWhat
Jul 10th, 2008, 07:42 PM
FO 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, and 07 were all low quality and horrible.

Worst GS final goes to FO 04.

Miss Amor
Jul 10th, 2008, 07:47 PM
fo has a trend of producing the worst slam finals

hankqq
Jul 10th, 2008, 07:55 PM
I have to say, the FO 2006 wasn't that bad. Kuznetsova at least won like 7 games total. Henin was always ahead, but Sveta didn't get crushed like she did at the USO 2007 final :o

I would say low quality slam finals:

AO 2006 for obvious reasons. Mauresmo played well, but...
FO 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007. 2002 was an error-fest between Venus/Serena, 2003-Clijsters was just pathetic, 2004-no comment, 2005-Mary really couldn't do anything in this match, 2007-Ivanovic froze up.
USO 2003, 2005, 2007. 2003-Clijsters couldn't put up a fight against a dehydrated Henin? Kimmie showed her lack of mental toughness again. 2005-Mary again-after torching the rest of field to reach the final, she was horrible. 2007-Kuznetsova just looped in her forehand, and Henin pounced on it.

slamchamp
Jul 10th, 2008, 07:57 PM
I have to say, the FO 2006 wasn't that bad. Kuznetsova at least won like 7 games total. Henin was always ahead, but Sveta didn't get crushed like she did at the USO 2007 final :o

I would say low quality slam finals:

AO 2006 for obvious reasons. Mauresmo played well, but...
FO 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007. 2002 was an error-fest between Venus/Serena, 2003-Clijsters was just pathetic, 2004-no comment, 2005-Mary really couldn't do anything in this match, 2007-Ivanovic froze up.
USO 2003, 2005, 2007. 2003-Clijsters couldn't put up a fight against a dehydrated Henin? Kimmie showed her lack of mental toughness again. 2005-Mary again-after torching the rest of field to reach the final, she was horrible. 2007-Kuznetsova just looped in her forehand, and Henin pounced on it.
8 games

manu32
Jul 10th, 2008, 09:17 PM
henin pierce....i was in the crowd ....dramatic

debopero
Jul 10th, 2008, 10:53 PM
US Open 2007. I have never watched a more boring or one sided match in my life. Jeez.

US Open 2005.

French Open 2007-After a while I just stopped watching.

French Open 2005- It wasd so qucik I really do not remember it that well.

French Open 2006- See 2007.

-VSR-
Jul 10th, 2008, 10:58 PM
The past 7 Roland Garros finals.

tobi
Jul 10th, 2008, 11:01 PM
Many to choose from.

Denise4925
Jul 10th, 2008, 11:01 PM
OH, and special mention for the French in 2002. Over 50 unforced errors in two sets? Ouch. If it were anyone but Venus and Serena, I would have taped over it ages ago.

:lol:

Denise4925
Jul 10th, 2008, 11:03 PM
:haha: Same here ;) I can only watch the first two/three games of the second set. That's about it :rolls:

As for other crappy finals:

AO 06
FO 03, 04, 05, 07
USO 05, 07

I'll go with that. But don't you think Wimbledon '07 was bad? I mean come on. Talk about lopsided. It was a drubbing. Poor Marion, she was so outclassed and outplayed.

moon
Jul 10th, 2008, 11:16 PM
any final with Kutnetsova and Justine.
Just awful.

RenaSlam.
Jul 10th, 2008, 11:18 PM
Every RG Final since 2001.

2004 was beyond :tape:

Serenidad.
Jul 10th, 2008, 11:20 PM
Most, if not all, of the recent FO finals.
The rest are scattered.

slamchamp
Jul 10th, 2008, 11:22 PM
I'll go with that. But don't you think Wimbledon '07 was bad? I mean come on. Talk about lopsided. It was a drubbing. Poor Marion, she was so outclassed and outplayed.well I think it was quite entertaining ,the first set was kinda even

Bounty Hunter
Jul 10th, 2008, 11:39 PM
2005 French Open - Women's Singles

Justine Henin-Hardenne def. Mary Pierce, 6-1, 6-1


I felt so sorry for Mary..... nothing worked for her that day...

~Cherry*Blossom~
Jul 10th, 2008, 11:41 PM
I'll go with that. But don't you think Wimbledon '07 was bad? I mean come on. Talk about lopsided. It was a drubbing. Poor Marion, she was so outclassed and outplayed.

I thought the first set was pretty good tennis. It wasn't an error fest and Marion wasn't nervous being out there. She played pretty well. The second set was a bit rubbish because Venus' serve just got to Marion. However, I don't believe it was as bad as the ones I have mentioned before.

Marshmallow
Jul 10th, 2008, 11:59 PM
I thought the first set was pretty good tennis. It wasn't an error fest and Marion wasn't nervous being out there. She played pretty well. The second set was a bit rubbish because Venus' serve just got to Marion. However, I don't believe it was as bad as the ones I have mentioned before.

I agree, Marion was ready to eat Venus alive in that first set. Venus raced to a 3-0 lead but Marion fought back to level it at 4-4 and things were tense (for me at least) I thought Marion would turn into Super Marion again and almost miraculously start dominating. It was edge of your seat stuff :scared:, but then Venus turned it up.

My picks will probably be 2005 and 2007. I never saw the FO 2002 or 2004 finals, but considering the comments, I'll count myself as lucky.

friendsita
Jul 11th, 2008, 12:06 AM
Rg 03

Dave.
Jul 11th, 2008, 12:07 AM
I'll go with that. But don't you think Wimbledon '07 was bad? I mean come on. Talk about lopsided. It was a drubbing. Poor Marion, she was so outclassed and outplayed.

:lol: that's a bit extreme. the first set got very close in the end before Venus ran away with it. I thought she had a nice end to her great run, and put up a better performance than many others (including Venus) did in their 1st slam final.

I agree, Marion was ready to eat Venus alive in that first set. Venus raced to a 3-0 lead but Marion fought back to level it at 4-4 and things were tense (for me at least) I thought Marion would turn into Super Marion again and almost miraculously start dominating. It was edge of your seat stuff :scared:, but then Venus turned it up.
.

:worship:

Exactly. At 3-0 it looked like it was gunna be a complete nightmare but Marion stuck in and made that set close! If only Marion took that 1st set it could have been a real memorable match.

gaviotabr
Jul 11th, 2008, 12:12 AM
FO 2007: For a game and a half I tought it could be a good final, but then it was sad to see Ana so nervous that she couldn't even serve.
USO 2007: Kuzzie's forehand was so wild, it was ugly.
FO 2005: Pierce didn't show up to play.
FO 2003: Kim's nerves got to her.
FO 2004: Elena's serve?

Dave.
Jul 11th, 2008, 12:21 AM
UGH, I find the whole thing almost unwatchable. And I watch anything!



You know the BBC sell this match on dvd as a classic in case you're interested :lol:

frontier
Jul 11th, 2008, 12:33 AM
Rg 05
Rg 04
Usa Open 07
Usa Open 04
Usa Open 05
Ao 08
Rg 07

mckyle.
Jul 11th, 2008, 12:43 AM
Australian Open 2008 was HORRIBLE. It was good because Maria won, but it was so boring. I couldn't wait for it to be over.

Danči Dementia
Jul 11th, 2008, 12:45 AM
FO :2004 2005 2007
Wimbledon :05
USO: 05
AO: 2006...........Justine :ras:

gaviotabr
Jul 11th, 2008, 01:03 AM
Australian Open 2008 was HORRIBLE. It was good because Maria won, but it was so boring. I couldn't wait for it to be over.

I don't think it was horrible, I actually liked it. But it is true that it could have been much more exciting. Had Ana taken her opportunity there at 5-4* in the first set, it could have gone 3 sets and have some drama. But after that hideous drop shot she totally lost focous. And it became a kind of boring match.

starin
Jul 11th, 2008, 01:38 AM
FO 2004, 2005, 2007
all the losing finalist in those matches played awful.

Il Primo!
Jul 11th, 2008, 01:48 AM
Henin's FO wins were HORRID.

Malva
Jul 11th, 2008, 01:59 AM
RG 03, 04, 05 were all pretty bad :(

What is the basis of your assertion?

Recollections of a 10 year old kid?

Harvs
Jul 11th, 2008, 02:04 AM
myskina dementieva... myskina played average while dementieva played horrible...

at least in one sided finals with serena/maria or kim/mary, one player has played great... not in this case

Robert-KimClijst
Jul 11th, 2008, 02:05 AM
Australian Open 2006

Roland Garros 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006 (Sad to Watch), 2007, (2008 wasn't great either)

Wimbledon 2007

US Open 2004, 2007 (Sooo Boring)

Harvs
Jul 11th, 2008, 02:07 AM
Anyone who says 2007 Melbourne is clearly a hater. That was marvelous tennis played by Serena. The best complete match I think I've ever seen anyone play. Just flawless. A scoreline doesn't mean low quality.

exactly... in that case, maria didnt even play that bad (obviously she didnt play great or it would have been closer) but serena played some of her best tennis ever...

AnomyBC
Jul 11th, 2008, 05:50 AM
RG 2004 is the worst I've seen. I'm sure there's been worse though.

Uranium
Jul 11th, 2008, 05:59 AM
I don't think it was horrible, I actually liked it. But it is true that it could have been much more exciting. Had Ana taken her opportunity there at 5-4* in the first set, it could have gone 3 sets and have some drama. But after that hideous drop shot she totally lost focous. And it became a kind of boring match.
That match was so boring. I am sorry, but Ana could not keep a forehand in the court, the fact she won a slam is amazing. Maria played average, and could have lost if she played someone else.
What is the basis of your assertion?

Recollections of a 10 year old kid?

no, it's the truth, 2005 Pierce couldn't keep the ball in the court, 2004 Dementieva played bad, 2003 Kim made it competitive in the second, but still lost.

I feel the worst slam finals were FO 2005(I love Pierce but it was dreadful), 2006 French was bad quality, Justine played well, but Sveta choked in the moment. 2006 Ao since Henin was sick/injured I don't even remember.
Matches I can't judge-French 2004 I wasn't able to see, and I haven't watched a USO final since 2004:tape:.

LudwigDvorak
Jul 11th, 2008, 06:21 AM
RG '04 F is a lost classic. All of you are just haters111111

Wojtek
Jul 11th, 2008, 06:25 AM
RG '04 F is a lost classic. All of you are just haters111111

Yep and you're need eye doctor

Cakeisgood
Jul 11th, 2008, 06:31 AM
Anyone who says 2007 Melbourne is clearly a hater. That was marvelous tennis played by Serena. The best complete match I think I've ever seen anyone play. Just flawless. A scoreline doesn't mean low quality.

As a Maria fan, I agree. Maria wasn't even allowed to play her game. It was a total beatdown from a great Serena.

After the the excellent 1st game, Ana died in FO '07, and to be fair, Justine didn't even look like she was in it 100%. That was lame.

USO '05 and '07 were crappy, but of course '06 was marvelous :angel:

Dor Y
Jul 11th, 2008, 07:14 AM
RG 2007 and 2004 :help:

shoparound
Jul 11th, 2008, 08:16 AM
Henin's FO wins were HORRID.

Which is sad because she can produce beautiful shots in good games.
With that said, its no surprise now why her name was mentioned a lot in the most boring players thread.

Nikkiri
Jul 11th, 2008, 08:23 AM
RG final this year wasn't bad at all.. last year was awful though :o :sad: Ana was so nervous she couldn't serve Justine didn't even have to play that well to win it.

austennis
Jul 11th, 2008, 08:33 AM
A0 - 2006 at least the rest of players finished

basset
Jul 11th, 2008, 08:48 AM
graf/zvereva

spriwi
Jul 11th, 2008, 09:02 AM
ao '06 :o
rg '07 :yawn:

StephenUK
Jul 11th, 2008, 10:45 AM
Some of the early Venus v Serena finals were awful because they seemed nervous playing each other and played their worst tennis. The 2007 Wimbledon was a massive improvement, it was just a shame it did not go to three sets.

Myskina v Dementieva FO 04 was terrible; poor Elena was hopeless.

Henin v Ivanovic, Graf v Zvereva were bad because one player was appalling but I don't know if they were the lowest quality overall as one player played well.

Matt01
Jul 11th, 2008, 11:06 AM
Which is sad because she can produce beautiful shots in good games.
With that said, its no surprise now why her name was mentioned a lot in the most boring players thread.


:confused: It was hardly Henin's fault that her opponents didn't play well in the FO finals.

When Serena trashed Pova in the AO final, her fans found it exciting.

Matthias13
Jul 11th, 2008, 11:29 AM
I don't think you can blame Justine for the fact that her opponents were nervous as hell :drool: And she didn't have to play her best to win, so why should she have ? US Open 2005 is still the best final I have ever seen :angel: Kim was just wonderful that year ! Worst GS final: FO 2004 :tape:

Elena: "I don't know how to serve" :lol:

Shvedbarilescu
Jul 11th, 2008, 11:57 AM
A0 - 2006 at least the rest of players finished

Totally agree. Nothing comes close. Even a non competitive poorly played final is 10 times better than a final which finishes with a retirement and no satisfactory resolution. Henin proved in this final what she confirmed before Roland Garros this year, that she would rather give up than allow herself to accept defeat if she didn't believe she had a possibility of winning.

gaviotabr
Jul 11th, 2008, 01:00 PM
RG final this year wasn't bad at all.. last year was awful though :o :sad: Ana was so nervous she couldn't serve Justine didn't even have to play that well to win it.

I also liked this years RG. I tought Dinara played pretty well for her first Grand Slam final, and Ana was very composed all the way through, making her forehand and serve work, wich was what had let her down in the previous finals. There was a point in the second set, Dinara serving at 1-1 40-30, that is definitely my favorite point this year so far.

gaviotabr
Jul 11th, 2008, 01:02 PM
A0 - 2006 at least the rest of players finished

That's true. And my favorite moment in finals is always that last point and the reaction from the player who won it. AO 2006 this moment was Justine telling Amelie that she wasn't going to play anymore. Major letdown.

~Cherry*Blossom~
Jul 11th, 2008, 02:09 PM
:confused: It was hardly Henin's fault that her opponents didn't play well in the FO finals.

When Serena trashed Pova in the AO final, her fans found it exciting.

The Australian crowd seemed to be loving it too.

Il Primo!
Jul 11th, 2008, 02:16 PM
As a Maria fan, I agree. Maria wasn't even allowed to play her game. It was a total beatdown from a great Serena.


Agreed. I was kind of cheering for Maria but Serena was just PHENOMENAL. I just loved this see this Serena: focused, composed, bossy, bitchy.

Obviously, Shazza could have served better but it won't have been enough, Serena's superior to her on on slow surfaces, she couldn't really do anything.

Serena's never played better than this day I guess, there was something supranatural about this match, I swear:worship:

Malva
Jul 11th, 2008, 02:16 PM
Some of the early Venus v Serena finals were awful because they seemed nervous playing each other and played their worst tennis. The 2007 Wimbledon was a massive improvement, it was just a shame it did not go to three sets.


I agree with you saying that the Wimbledon 2008 (I suppose you meant that) Final was simply not to be compared in terms of competitiveness and quality, to say US Open 2001 Final which to a lot of onlookers seemed to be a recreation tennis.

$uricate
Jul 11th, 2008, 02:22 PM
Agreed. I was kind of cheering for Maria but Serena was just PHENOMENAL. I just loved this see this Serena: focused, composed, bossy, bitchy.

Obviously, Shazza could have served better but it won't have been enough, Serena's superior to her on on slow surfaces, she couldn't really do anything.

Serena's never played better than this day I guess, there was something supranatural about this match, I swear:worship:

Aussie Final 07 was the best I have ever seen a woman play, hands down.

I dont think it was a bad final because it was a beatdown, I think it was a marvel to watch and see a player playing her phenomenal best :worship:

I still maintain that anyone would have been embarrassed by Serena that day :shrug:

skinnypoon
Jul 11th, 2008, 02:52 PM
Like what most have been saying, the '04 and '07 FO. It's really sad that almost all of the grand slam finals for the past 5 years have been so non-competitive or one-sided (bar 2005 Wimbledon). It gives idiots like Janko ammunition to dump on women's tennis.

polishprodigy
Jul 11th, 2008, 02:54 PM
The one where Mary Pierce lost 6-1 6-1

Sander.
Jul 11th, 2008, 03:34 PM
Roland Garros 2004: Dementieva- Myskina

jonny84
Jul 11th, 2008, 03:52 PM
There have been somre really unimpressive finals over the last five years. The worst probably has to be Dementieva vs Myskina. Elena was so nervous and Anastasia felt she couldn't celebrate it so it turned out to be a damp squib.

The best has to be Venus vs Lindsay in Wimbledon 2005. The fight in the last set and Lindsay missing championship point was gutting.

frenchie
Jul 11th, 2008, 04:02 PM
Roland Garros 2004: Dementieva- Myskina

Strangely this is my favorite match of all time:confused:

scoobsuk
Jul 11th, 2008, 04:22 PM
There's been so many, in the past several years, that it's be unfair to pick just one.

sammy01
Jul 11th, 2008, 04:27 PM
isn't womens tennis blessed to have such depth over the last few years when it comes to bad slam finals, who says the womens tour lacks depth pffffffffft lol

3Dcool
Jul 11th, 2008, 04:31 PM
RG 2008: Ana Ivanovic vs Dinara Safina.

The Dawntreader
Jul 11th, 2008, 04:51 PM
RG 2003 for me, it always will be:o

As well as Justine played, the absolute shitty nature of Kim's play that vday just brought the quality WAY down:rolleyes:

As much as i love them both, RG 2002 F was a crappy, error-flooded affair:lol:

manu32
Jul 11th, 2008, 08:09 PM
pierce henin a nigthmare

BuTtErFrEnA
Jul 12th, 2008, 01:28 AM
Totally agree. Nothing comes close. Even a non competitive poorly played final is 10 times better than a final which finishes with a retirement and no satisfactory resolution. Henin proved in this final what she confirmed before Roland Garros this year, that she would rather give up than allow herself to accept defeat if she didn't believe she had a possibility of winning.

:worship: no poor quality finished final can ever come close to a player declaring perfect health just before the match then retire in a GS final..

Dave.
Jul 12th, 2008, 01:31 AM
:worship: no poor quality finished final can ever come close to a player declaring perfect health just before the match then retire in a GS final..

I agree that Henin retiring spoiled the match obviously, but before that the quality was good. You had to appreciate the tactical masterclass Mauresmo was demonstrating. She had the perfect gameplan for playing against Henin on a slow hardcourt. The rest of the tour should have taken notes from that 1st set.

danieln1
Jul 12th, 2008, 01:55 AM
Any final that Henin played, with maybe the exception of Australia:
RG 2003 2005-2007 - In 2003 Clijsters choker/nervous played like shit and the other ones were just as bad because the opponents were very nervous
US Open 2003 and 2007: Same above

Australian Open 2005 also was very terrible

Williamsser
Jul 12th, 2008, 02:01 AM
isn't womens tennis blessed to have such depth over the last few years when it comes to bad slam finals, who says the womens tour lacks depth pffffffffft lol

:lol:

VS Fan
Jul 12th, 2008, 02:02 AM
FO :2004 2005 2007
Wimbledon :05
USO: 05
AO: 2006...........Justine :ras:
Wimbledon 05!!??
Are you nuts? Venus vs Lindsay, three sets, match point for Lindsay, third set 9-7, Venus wins her third at Wimby out of nowhere, What the heck are you smokin'???:confused:

MagicMilan
Jul 12th, 2008, 02:28 AM
the worst: RG 08.......
the best : RG 99 & Wimbledon 06
IMO, the match had some great points, it was good quality, much better than previous years :shrug:

Nikkiri
Jul 12th, 2008, 03:34 AM
IMO, the match had some great points, it was good quality, much better than previous years :shrug:

It doesn't like Ana thats the only basis for it I'm sure ;)

zvonarevarulz
Jul 12th, 2008, 03:38 AM
AO 06:p

LightWarrior
Jul 12th, 2008, 04:09 AM
Looks like all the Justine Henin GS finals (except maybe for Wimmbledon '06) have been awful. And also finals in roland garros in general suck, this tournament sucks.

Matt01
Jul 12th, 2008, 10:43 AM
Looks like all the Justine Henin GS finals (except maybe for Wimmbledon '06) have been awful. And also finals in roland garros in general suck, this tournament sucks.


Yeah, especially the finals in '85, '92, '96 and '99 all sucked :p

Viktymise
Jul 12th, 2008, 11:54 AM
Oh dear ....

As I said earlier, maybe because Justine was soo much better than everyone else on red clay. Nobody was good enough to give her a close match.

Roland Garros :hearts:

Finals tend to suck in most major sports, rarely do we get a classic - particularly Grand Slam finals. It's all if's, but's and maybe's on finals day ... had Safina taken the first set against Ivanovic this year, we could have been on to something special, match-wise.

RG has easily been the worst slam since 2000, and will continue to be, as the tennis most of the WTA plays, is much better suited to faster surfaces.

Calypso
Jul 12th, 2008, 03:11 PM
The 1993 Wimbledon final (Graf beating Novotna) was horrendous. It started off innocently enough, with nervous service games from both. Then Novotna steadied a little in the 2nd, while Graf continued to be uneven. Then, without Graf getting any better, Novotna got SO MUCH WORSE it was embarrassing. She couldn't keep the ball in the court for more than three shots. The fact that Graf played badly enough to keep it at 6-4, that's saying something. I feel like Camille Pin could've beaten either one on that day.

Wow, thanks for the info! Was planning to buy this match because I thought it was high quality tennis by two of the players I enjoyed to watch play on grass (at least until the choke:lol:). I guess it was only high on drama?

The personal worst I've seen: 2002 F.O final, neither sister could keep the ball on court:help:, and Mary Pierce's thrashing by Justine in the F.O final.

mapaliey
Jul 29th, 2008, 11:30 PM
the worst: RG 08.......
the best : RG 99 & Wimbledon 06

daffodil
Jul 30th, 2008, 12:07 AM
Just because I forgot the match ever occurred... I'd have to go w/ Clijsters & Pierce @ USO 2005.

daffodil
Jul 30th, 2008, 12:12 AM
Any final that Henin played, with maybe the exception of Australia:
RG 2003 2005-2007 - In 2003 Clijsters choker/nervous played like shit and the other ones were just as bad because the opponents were very nervous
US Open 2003 and 2007: Same above

Australian Open 2005 also was very terrible

AO 2005 wasn't AMAZING quality, but it doesn't even come close to the worst finals. Serena played a fantastic third set, and her ass was getting kicked in the first set. In the second set, @ 2-3 down, Serena played something like a 20 minute service game & came away w/ it.

daffodil
Jul 30th, 2008, 12:17 AM
Anyone who says 2007 Melbourne is clearly a hater. That was marvelous tennis played by Serena. The best complete match I think I've ever seen anyone play. Just flawless. A scoreline doesn't mean low quality.

Agree over & over again. Serena haters have selective remembering. They fail to remember that Maria made like 4 unforced errors in the first set & a half [& still got her ass smashed up 6-1 & a break]:kiss::hearts::kiss::hearts:

AcesHigh
Jul 30th, 2008, 12:28 AM
RG 2008 wasnt that bad, although I only watched in patches.

The AO final this year was bad although not the worst. I thought both players only played well in patches and Ana, although she played much better than her last slam final, couldnt step it up at all.

VS Fan
Jul 30th, 2008, 12:30 AM
Why is it considered a low quality match when one player (Serena) played "in the zone" and the other player played slightly subpar? (AO 2007). Serena has played about a dozen such matches and I find them entertaining. When both players play bad such as the RG 2002, I will agree. It is better when both players play at a high level such as Venus / Monica I think at the Accura classic a few years ago(2001?), or Venus/ Serena Wimby 2008 or the best match ever, Venus/Lindsay Wimby 2005.
Some matches are considered classic even though they are error filled such as Kim C./Jennifer C. at RG 2001. Over 100 UFEs each played over an equivilant 5 sets (12-10 in the third set). The competetion and suspense made us overlook the hugh number of errors.

Marionated
Jul 30th, 2008, 12:31 AM
Well, I've only followed tennis properly for about a year now so the worst final I've seen was the US open 2007. Sveta was in desperate need of some :help: