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tennisIlove09
Jul 6th, 2008, 08:46 PM
All-Williams Wimbledon final raises TV ratings

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NEW YORK (AP)óThe Williams sistersí duel drew the highest preliminary television ratings for a womenís Wimbledon final in three years.
Venus Williams (http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/players/87/;_ylt=Ap.__cFO6BxCHIBOTRIfmS8gv7YF)í straight-set victory over younger sister Serena on Saturday earned a 3.4 overnight rating and a 10 share on NBC, the network said Sunday. Thatís up 21 percent from the 2.8/8 for last yearís meeting between Venus and Marion Bartoli (http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/players/354/;_ylt=Asiwd_OvkUvNXRafmKTRnhQgv7YF).
Itís the best rating since a 4.0/12 in 2005 for the match between Venus and Lindsay Davenport (http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/players/93/;_ylt=Ao519GFVBCRpBABxqdUrC94gv7YF).
The rating is the percentage watching a program among homes with televisions, and the share is the percentage tuned into the broadcast among those households with TVs on at the time. Overnight ratings measure the countryís largest markets

Apoleb
Jul 6th, 2008, 08:50 PM
yes, that's *shocking*.

Marcell
Jul 6th, 2008, 08:51 PM
I just saw this. Not surprising! All my friends who are non-tennis fans were glued to the tv yesterday.

Expat
Jul 6th, 2008, 08:58 PM
expected
2 americans playing against each other
would love to see global ratings

anyone got UK ratings yet

jamatthews
Jul 6th, 2008, 08:59 PM
So Lindsay is a bigger star than Serena...:hehehe:

johnoo
Jul 6th, 2008, 09:06 PM
Be interesting to see what the figures were in the uk for the womens final compared with the girls final.The girls final with laura robson was shown live after the williams final on the same channel BBC1.

friendsita
Jul 6th, 2008, 09:10 PM
not surpising

Expat
Jul 6th, 2008, 09:11 PM
Be interesting to see what the figures were in the uk for the womens final compared with the girls final.The girls final with laura robson was shown live after the williams final on the same channel BBC1.
yep i think laura robson would have got more viewers
zheng jie vaidisova scored more than serena zheng jie in china at 100 million viewers
does that mean vaidisova is bigger than serena
nope all it means is that in all countries native players get better ratings and even better if they are winning

same with the williams sisters and america

cellophane
Jul 6th, 2008, 09:14 PM
So Lindsay is a bigger star than Serena...:hehehe:

:haha:

supergrunt
Jul 6th, 2008, 09:33 PM
shocking

supergrunt
Jul 6th, 2008, 09:34 PM
they prob. would have been higher if the people on ESPN stopped saying that they can't play well against eachother.

lizchris
Jul 6th, 2008, 09:40 PM
It is impressive since it is a holiday weekend in America (July 4 fell on a Friday this year).

Kworb
Jul 6th, 2008, 09:40 PM
The US is probably the only country where ratings for the final went up compared to last year.

Dodoboy.
Jul 6th, 2008, 09:43 PM
Great stuff?

So 2005 ratings were better, hmm interesting.

But i guess it was a better match. But they weren't to know :lol:

tequila
Jul 6th, 2008, 09:57 PM
Two Americans playing in the final. Of course it will raise the ratings in America. If two Chinese were playing, it will raise the ratings in China too. :shrug:

slamchamp
Jul 6th, 2008, 10:04 PM
tv ratings in the US I suppose? cause it's very different from ratings worldwide you know?:rolleyes:

supergrunt
Jul 6th, 2008, 10:06 PM
no it's an American television station reporting ratings for Bangalore

raquel
Jul 6th, 2008, 10:08 PM
The US is probably the only country where ratings for the final went up compared to last year.
They were up in the UK too. Last year's final averaged 2.9 million viewers with 30% of all people watching TV watching the final, and it peaked at 3.9 million viewers. This year it averaged 3.9 million viewers and 35% of all people watching TV watched it. Not sure what it peaked at yet but will obviously be more than last year. No doubt Laura Robson being on afterwards helped the average rating of the programme but still quite a big rise.

Expat
Jul 6th, 2008, 10:30 PM
They were up in the UK too. Last year's final averaged 2.9 million viewers with 30% of all people watching TV watching the final, and it peaked at 3.9 million viewers. This year it averaged 3.9 million viewers and 35% of all people watching TV watched it. Not sure what it peaked at yet but will obviously be more than last year. No doubt Laura Robson being on afterwards helped the average rating of the programme but still quite a big rise.
this is combined ratings right
williams sisters + laura robson averages
would love to see only williams sisters ratings if thats possible
but if people were tuned for laura they could have started watching earlier too or vice versa with them staying on to watch laura's match

Dodoboy.
Jul 6th, 2008, 10:33 PM
Thats great!

Where did you get the info?

~Kiera~
Jul 6th, 2008, 10:33 PM
http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/other/display.var.2381722.0.10_million_tune_in_as_Doctor _Who_sets_out_to_battle_Daleks.php

Meanwhile, British teenage tennis sensation Laura Robson proved a bigger draw for viewers than the top players in the women's game.

On average 4.5 million watched the 14-year-old claim the Wimbledon girls' title, one million more than saw Venus Williams beat her sister Serena to claim a fifth senior title.

raquel
Jul 6th, 2008, 10:35 PM
Thanks Kiera ;)

This year's final outrated last year's then in the UK too then :)

Marcell
Jul 6th, 2008, 11:17 PM
Williams Sisters Final Draws Highest Rating Since '05

The Williams sisters drew a crowd in Saturday's Wimbledon final.

NBC Sports' coverage of yesterday's Wimbledon final between Venus Williams and Serena Williams (9 a.m.-2 p.m. Eastern), won by Venus in straight sets in two hours earned the best rating for a ladies final since 2005 with a 3.4 overnight rating and a 10 share (Venus Williams-Lindsay Davenport, 4.0/12 in 2005) and showed an increase of 21 percent over last year (Venus Williams-Marion Bartoli, 2.8/8) according to overnight ratings released today by Nielsen Media Research.

NBC's rating peaked toward the end of the Williams sisters match at 11 a.m. with a 5.1/15. Below is the half-hour breakdown for yesterday's telecast:

Time, Rating/share
9:00 a.m. 3.5/12
9:30 a.m. 4.1/13
10:00 a.m. 4.7/14
10:30 a.m. 5.0/15
11:00 a.m. 5.1/15
11:30 a.m. 3.3/9
12:00 p.m. 2.4/7
12:30 p.m. 2.1/6
1:00 p.m. 2.0/5
1:30 p.m. 2.0/5

Top metered markets for Saturday's coverage of the ladies final:

1. West Palm Beach 6.8/17
2. Richmond 6.4/15
3. Norfolk 5.6/12
4. St. Louis 5.5/13
5. Baltimore 5.4/15
T6. Providence 4.8/12
T6. Memphis 4.8/10
T8. Nashville 4.5/11
T8. Greenville 4.5/10
T10. New York 4.4/13
T10. Washington D.C. 4.4/13

slamchamp
Jul 6th, 2008, 11:31 PM
maybe because they are both amreican and the network is American? I don't know I'm just guessing:shrug::rolleyes:

Geisha
Jul 7th, 2008, 12:03 AM
Great stuff?

So 2005 ratings were better, hmm interesting.

But i guess it was a better match. But they weren't to know :lol:

The 2005 final was longer than the 2008 final - I would think that has something to do with it.

Length has something to do with it, I'm guessing, especially on the east coast. It is still 9 and 10 AM in the first hour, but as the match goes on, more people are waking up, etc.

tennisbum79
Jul 7th, 2008, 12:16 AM
maybe because they are both amreican and the network is American? I don't know I'm just guessing:shrug::rolleyes:
How about just because people like the universal story of 2 sisters from humble background on top of a sport where it is rare to see people of their race?

If you passed the lazy, obligatory, obvious and easy explanation, the above could be why the 2 sisters may be known in countries where people do not really care about tennis but can relate to the Cinderella angle of the sisters presence in the sport of tennis.

xan
Jul 7th, 2008, 12:19 AM
The Zheng match was watched by 100 million people - in China

tennisbum79
Jul 7th, 2008, 12:52 AM
I just saw this. Not surprising! All my friends who are non-tennis fans were glued to the tv yesterday.

I too have friend who have no interest in tennis, but like the story of 2 sisters
on top of a sport where their like is a rarity.

It is the same appeal Tigers Woods brought to golf by broadening golf popularity among minority where membership to country club is non-existent.

DemWilliamsGulls
Jul 7th, 2008, 01:25 AM
WHAT I TELL YOU...that was expected...say what you want to say...but people LOVE The Williams Sisters...they ARE the WTA baby!!!!

Thanx4nothin
Jul 7th, 2008, 02:34 AM
I can't believe how cringworthily desperate the British are with their tennis 'hopes' sometimes....poor Laura, the pressure she will have inflicted upon her over the next few years will be immense.

tanisha's_juice
Jul 7th, 2008, 03:49 AM
tv ratings in the US I suppose? cause it's very different from ratings worldwide you know?:rolleyes:

its all about the usa, everybody know about american television shows worldwide, why yall hating, american television is tha best and american tennis academies are tha best . why all these foreigners are applying for tennis scholarships to american colleges, whats wrong with the colleges in their countries. im tired of people dissing america.

mal
Jul 7th, 2008, 03:54 AM
its all about the usa, everybody know about american television shows worldwide, why yall hating, american television is tha best and american tennis academies are tha best . why all these foreigners are applying for tennis scholarships to american colleges, whats wrong with the colleges in their countries. im tired of people dissing america.

It depends where you earn your money.
If you are working in teh USA, you get paid in local currency.
If you come from China to learn, and don't work you probably pay 10 times as much. Imagine saving for $8,000 years to be told, sorry, teh price is four time now so go away I'm not too interested thank anyway, I don't know?
For example.:tape: :lol:

Sir Stefwhit
Jul 7th, 2008, 05:36 AM
I think combined both the mens and womens finals have probably had the best ratings they've had in a very long time. No surprise about Serena and Venus, when they play tons of people who don't follow tennis tune in for the action; after all these years it's still an event. I'll be anxious to see how the mens' ratings turn out; I have a feeling that Roger and Rafa ushered in a whole new wave of fans to mens tennis.

~Kiera~
Jul 7th, 2008, 12:47 PM
I'll be anxious to see how the mens' ratings turn out; I have a feeling that Roger and Rafa ushered in a whole new wave of fans to mens tennis.

I don't know about the ratings in the US, but in the UK the figures were pretty impressive.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/jul/07/tvratings?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront

The longest Wimbledon men's tennis final in history, which saw Rafael Nadal beat Roger Federer in a five-set epic, saw its ratings peak at 12.7 million viewers last night, Sunday July 6.

The match, which lasted four hours and 48 minutes and included several breaks for rain, played havoc with BBC1's schedule, with most of its evening programming shunted onto BBC2 to make way for the tennis.

It also meant the channel's launch of new Martin Shaw drama George Gently was postponed until next Sunday.

BBC1's tennis coverage attracted an average audience of 7.4 million and a 39% share between 1.30pm and 9.30pm. The action peaked at 12.7 million viewers for the 15 minutes from 9pm.

Last year, the men's final between Federer and Nadal, another five-set epic that saw Federer triumph, peaked at 7.3 million viewers for the 15 minutes from 5.45pm.

vwfan
Jul 7th, 2008, 12:48 PM
congrats to Venus and Serena, again.

Expat
Jul 7th, 2008, 05:25 PM
mens ratings beats womens ratings even in the USA

Star-Studded Wimbledon Finals Earn Big Ratings On NBC
NBC Earns 4.6/12 Overnight Rating For Nadal-Federer Final NBC's coverage yesterday of the Wimbledon men's final, which saw Rafael Nadal defeat Roger Federer in the event's longest final ever at Wimbledon, earned a 4.6/12 overnight Nielsen rating, up…

LindsayRulz
Jul 7th, 2008, 05:33 PM
So Lindsay is a bigger star than Serena...:hehehe:

Of course :lol:

Louis Cyphre
Jul 7th, 2008, 05:37 PM
its all about the usa, everybody know about american television shows worldwide, why yall hating, american television is tha best and american tennis academies are tha best . why all these foreigners are applying for tennis scholarships to american colleges, whats wrong with the colleges in their countries. im tired of people dissing america.

:eek::lol::worship:


I have only one thing to add


"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity...and I'm not sure about the universe."

A.E.

Expat
Jul 7th, 2008, 05:38 PM
wimbledon ratings over the years
http://tvbythenumbers.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/wimbledonthru2007-500x400.gif
The decline in tennis’ The Championships, Wimbledon US TV ratings has been quite substantial, much more so than most other sports championship events (you can find many such charts in our Reference category). Recent upward ticks seem to occur (with only a few exceptions) when the Men’s champion is from the US, and then the long term downward trend takes hold again. Discounting comparisons to the ratings prior to 1987 (because of a Nielsen measurement quirk described below) viewership has fallen almost in half the last 20 years. Is this due to the lack of a US Men’s champion since 2000? On the other hand, US Women have done quite well since 1999, but don’t seem to have helped the ratings. I admit to not having any clever guesses as to why the decline has been so severe. Anyone else have any better guesses?

Complete Wimbledon Tennis TV Ratings, 1973-2007:
Year Viewers (million) HH Rating Share Telecasts Network Winners (Women/Men)
1973 4.60 4.5 19 2 NBC KING/KODES
1974 6.62 5.6 23 2 NBC EVERT/CONNORS
1975* 6.89 5.4 23 4 NBC KING/ASHE
1976* 6.04 5.1 20 4 NBC EVERT/BORG
1977* 6.37 5.6 25 3 NBC WADE/BORG
1978* 7.81 5.8 23 3 NBC NAVRATILOVA/BORG
1979* 6.51 5.1 22 3 NBC NAVRATILOVA/BORG
1980* 8.42 6.6 26 4 NBC GOOLAGONG/BORG
1981* 7.98 6.0 25 5 NBC EVERT-LLOYD/MCENROE
1982* 7.79 5.1 20 6 NBC NAVRATILOVA/CONNORS
1983* 4.78 4.1 17 6 NBC NAVRATILOVA/MCENROE
1984* 4.56 3.9 14 7 NBC NAVRATILOVA/MCENROE
1985* 5.69 4.5 17 8 NBC NAVRATILOVA/BECKER
1986* 5.22 3.9 14 7 NBC NAVRATILOVA/BECKER
1987 3.95 3.6 14 7 NBC NAVRATILOVA/CASH
1988 4.29 3.6 14 9 NBC GRAF/EDBERG
1989 4.56 3.9 15 9 NBC GRAF/BECKER
1990 3.74 3.1 12 9 NBC NAVRATILOVA/EDBERG
1991 4.65 3.7 13 15 NBC GRAF/STICH
1992 4.48 3.7 13 15 NBC GRAF/AGASSI
1993 3.74 3.1 11 14 NBC GRAF/SAMPRAS
1994 3.16 2.7 10 14 NBC MARTINEZ/SAMPRAS
1995 3.54 3.0 11 10 NBC GRAF/SAMPRAS
1996 2.91 2.5 9 9 NBC GRAF/KRAJICEK
1997 2.70 2.3 9 9 NBC HINGIS/SAMPRAS
1998 2.64 2.2 8 9 NBC NOVOTNA/SAMPRAS
1999 3.38 2.9 10 9 NBC DAVENPORT/SAMPRAS
2000 4.07 3.2 11 9 NBC WILLIAMS/SAMPRAS
2001 3.20 2.6 9 9 NBC V. WILLIAMS/IVANISEVIC
2002 2.71 2.1 7 9 NBC S. WILLIAMS/HEWITT
2003 2.49 2.0 7 9 NBC S. WILLIAMS/FEDERER
2004 2.54 1.9 6 9 NBC SHARAPOVA/FEDERER
2005 2.49 1.9 6 9 NBC V. WILLIAMS/FEDERER
2006 2.06 1.6 5 9 NBC MAURESMO/FEDERER
2007 2.29 1.7 5 9 NBC V. WILLIAMS/FEDERER

slamchamp
Jul 7th, 2008, 05:55 PM
its all about the usa, everybody know about american television shows worldwide, why yall hating, american television is tha best and american tennis academies are tha best . why all these foreigners are applying for tennis scholarships to american colleges, whats wrong with the colleges in their countries. im tired of people dissing america.
America or the USA? cause those are different things u know?

Destiny
Jul 7th, 2008, 06:07 PM
Good stuff:yeah:

sfselesfan
Jul 7th, 2008, 06:29 PM
Regardless of the nation, there is an interest in the remarkable sports story of two sisters meeting in slam finals. The story transcends the USA. For those of you who are too (1) short sighted or (2) jealous to appreaciate it...you have my pity.

SF

sfselesfan
Jul 7th, 2008, 06:33 PM
I admit to not having any clever guesses as to why the decline has been so severe. Anyone else have any better guesses?

Easy. Wimbledon used to be shown on Network television, before there were cable channels. When there were like, four channels to watch. Then it moved to HBO for the preliminary matches. Now, basically every match is shown (of importance), which never happened before.

People used to tune in simply for the finals...because that's pretty much all they showed. Now people watch the tournament as it progresses. They follow their favorites until they lose, and may or may not come back for the final.

To sum up - viewership is more evenly distributed over a period of time, and over a MUCH wider range of channels.

SF

Seyz
Jul 7th, 2008, 06:34 PM
Why can't people just accept the fact that the ratings are high because they are the two greatest female tennis champions on tour right now. Now that Henin is gone, they're leaps and bounds above everyone else in terms of acheivements. No one even comes close. That itself should be enough to explain the good ratings. It has nothing to do about whether they are from the united states or not.

Dodoboy.
Jul 7th, 2008, 07:29 PM
If they did it again at the USO i would expect 8.2 mil or close to it.

irinska
Jul 7th, 2008, 08:03 PM
More than 13 million British viewers watched the scintillating climax of last night’s men’s final at Wimbledon
The next most popular match was not the Williams’ sisters match in the women’s final but the climax of the girl’s junior event, which was won by Laura Robson, a young British player.
Around 4.5 million people watched the 14-year-old as she became the youngest winner of the girl’s event since Martina Hingis.
So much for the sisters appeal in Europa and it's the same worldwide.Get over it men tennis is more interesting than anything in the women tennis right now.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/wimbledon/article4285904.ece

Jem
Jul 7th, 2008, 09:53 PM
Glad to see so many Americans tuned in for the Nadal-Federer classic. If that don't turn you on to tennis, nothing will!

By the way, this thread is so depressing -- all the dissing of nationalities. When I was a kid, I dreamed of being able to see tennis played -- for lots of prize money -- around the entire globe. The international flavor of the game attracted me; I literally craved to see players from places that rarely produced champions. It was a dream of so many to see the game blossom -- like having a great pie and making it bigger for more people to enjoy. Now we have that, and it seems to be creating only anger and ill will. If you read between the lines of this thread, it's like folks want to see tennis fail. If you really love this game, I just can't understand that kind of thinking. I want to see lots of people everywhere -- in Madagascar and Finland and Vietnam, and, yes, even the United States of America -- playing, watching and enjoying what is the greatest sport ever in my mind. If you only love the game because of a particular player, then you're missing something really great. It's fantastic to have your favorites (Chris Evert was the best!), but you appreciate and respect other players and enjoy the thrill of the competition.

To my European friends, please don't let current politics color your feelings about the game. Contrary to popular belief, most Americans do not have a superiority complex. We're decent folk who have a long history of both good intentions and of doing the right thing. Yes, we've made mistakes, but we try to right them whenever possible.

Tennis is a brilliant game, and sport really should bring people together instead of drag them apart. I love women's tennis, I love men's tennis. Heck, I even follow junior results.

The cool thing about this board is people being able to share points of views and opinions. This was a thread about TV ratings in the USA. I don't know what the thread starters intentions were, but Venus and Serena gave a boost to the ratings for women in the USA. I'm more thrilled by the fact that the men's final -- with the two greatest players in the game today -- drew strong ratings. That's great for America, and it doesn't hurt anybody, so why get all upset about it. Go ahead and share TV ratings from your various countries. It would be interesting to see how it all shakes out and how the game plays on TV in other places.

Long live this great game and may it grow all over the world!

soomaal
Jul 7th, 2008, 10:01 PM
Glad to see so many Americans tuned in for the Nadal-Federer classic. If that don't turn you on to tennis, nothing will!

By the way, this thread is so depressing -- all the dissing of nationalities. When I was a kid, I dreamed of being able to see tennis played -- for lots of prize money -- around the entire globe. The international flavor of the game attracted me; I literally craved to see players from places that rarely produced champions. It was a dream of so many to see the game blossom -- like having a great pie and making it bigger for more people to enjoy. Now we have that, and it seems to be creating only anger and ill will. If you read between the lines of this thread, it's like folks want to see tennis fail. If you really love this game, I just can't understand that kind of thinking. I want to see lots of people everywhere -- in Madagascar and Finland and Vietnam, and, yes, even the United States of America -- playing, watching and enjoying what is the greatest sport ever in my mind. If you only love the game because of a particular player, then you're missing something really great. It's fantastic to have your favorites (Chris Evert was the best!), but you appreciate and respect other players and enjoy the thrill of the competition.

To my European friends, please don't let current politics color your feelings about the game. Contrary to popular belief, most Americans do not have a superiority complex. We're decent folk who have a long history of both good intentions and of doing the right thing. Yes, we've made mistakes, but we try to right them whenever possible.:hug::hug:

Tennis is a brilliant game, and sport really should bring people together instead of drag them apart. I love women's tennis, I love men's tennis. Heck, I even follow junior results. :lol:

The cool thing about this board is people being able to share points of views and opinions. This was a thread about TV ratings in the USA. I don't know what the thread starters intentions were, but Venus and Serena gave a boost to the ratings for women in the USA. I'm more thrilled by the fact that the men's final -- with the two greatest players in the game today -- drew strong ratings. That's great for America, and it doesn't hurt anybody, so why get all upset about it. Go ahead and share TV ratings from your various countries. It would be interesting to see how it all shakes out and how the game plays on TV in other places.

Long live this great game and may it grow all over the world!

What an excellent post! Many a wtaworld posters could learn a thing or two from you. Thank you for a wonderful and refreshing post. :wavey:

Sir Stefwhit
Jul 7th, 2008, 11:03 PM
The next most popular match was not the Williamsí sisters match in the womenís final but the climax of the girlís junior event, which was won by Laura Robson, a young British player.

Around 4.5 million people watched the 14-year-old as she became the youngest winner of the girlís event since Martina Hingis.
So much for the sisters appeal in Europa and it's the same worldwide.Get over it men tennis is more interesting than anything in the women tennis right now.
Ok, so you've established that in the UK people are more interested in a local player and the men, but you still haven't prooved that Serena-Venus aren't more or less of an attraction compared to the other women on tour.

If there truly isn't any interest in the sisters in the UK, then the stats will show that their final didn't bring in higher ratings than previous finals. Do you have that info to support what you're saying?

wally1
Jul 7th, 2008, 11:08 PM
Some interesting viewing figures from around the world here:- http://www.tennis.com/tournaments/2008/wimbledon/wimbledon.aspx?id=139526

tequila
Jul 7th, 2008, 11:21 PM
Some interesting viewing figures from around the world here:- http://www.tennis.com/tournaments/2008/wimbledon/wimbledon.aspx?id=139526

Wow, 100 million people watched Zheng's semis. :worship: Kinda blows away the top figure in that list. A measly 13.1 million in the UK. As many people watched Zheng in a semi, not even a final, as the population of the UK and Spain combined. :lol:

Shepster
Jul 8th, 2008, 12:11 AM
Ok, so you've established that in the UK people are more interested in a local player and the men, but you still haven't prooved that Serena-Venus aren't more or less of an attraction compared to the other women on tour.

If there truly isn't any interest in the sisters in the UK, then the stats will show that their final didn't bring in higher ratings than previous finals. Do you have that info to support what you're saying?
Well you cannot compare the mens final yesterday because that went on all day and finished at 9.30 at night. Obviously you're going to have way more of an audience then. Thing is though, all-Williams finals traditionally don't do that well in Britain and coupled with that there's an overall downward trend since the beginning of the decade.

2008 - Serena/Venus, 3.5m average (no peak given, 35% share for entire coverage with Robson)
2007 - Marion/Venus, 2.9m average (4.1m peak, 39% share)
2006 - Amelie/Justine, ? average (4.5m peak, 44% share)
2005 - Lindsay/Venus, 5.4m average (6.8m peak, 36% share)
2004 - Serena/Maria, 4.4m average (6.3m peak, 55% share)
2003 - Serena/Venus, 4m average (5.5m peak, 52% share)
2002 - Serena/Venus, -3m average (no specific, just said under 3m)
2001 - Justine/Venus, 5.6m average (7.5m peak, 45% share)
2000 - Lindsay/Venus, 6.1m average (7.5m peak)

(those taken from the Guardian's media section, there's a written report for every day, hence why it's not always the average and the peak given.)

So, the interest in the game really did taper off in Britain when the Williamses originally were in the finals, it picked up pace every year after that but since 2005 (which was still significantly down on the same matchup 5 years previously) it's been in the crapper again. This new Williams final was basically halfway between the previous two and is a very saddening result as with two "superstars" as the bbc put it (which in tennis terms they most definitely are) Venus playing Serena barely got more than half a million viewers more than Venus and the unknown French girl.

To put all that into perspective the two previous Rafa/Roger finals got over 7m peak.

Jem
Jul 8th, 2008, 12:19 AM
Some interesting viewing figures from around the world here:- http://www.tennis.com/tournaments/2008/wimbledon/wimbledon.aspx?id=139526
Excellent! Good to see so many people tuning in! 100 million in China. That's a lot of potential tennis player's for the world's greatest sport!

supergrunt
Jul 8th, 2008, 12:40 AM
the fact that the men's final out-did Vee and serena kind of upsets me :sad: but I guess an all williams final didn't even appeal to me that much simply because there was nothing at stake- also, I guess no one can change the fact that a lot of Americans just don't like the Williams sisters.

CrossCourt~Rally
Jul 8th, 2008, 12:41 AM
Impressive :worship:. Does anyone know the rating for sundays Mens Final in the US ? :confused:

Optima
Jul 8th, 2008, 12:44 AM
the fact that the men's final out-did Vee and serena kind of upsets me :sad: but I guess an all williams final didn't even appeal to me that much simply because there was nothing at stake- also, I guess no one can change the fact that a lot of Americans just don't like the Williams sisters.

Total BS. When I talk about tennis with people, the only players they know are Serena and Venus and usually, almost 100 percent of the time they think they kick ass. I have no idea where you are living.

Expat
Jul 8th, 2008, 12:45 AM
Impressive :worship:. Does anyone know the rating for sundays Mens Final in the US ? :confused:
4.6 in the US over rain delays and 7 hours
much higher than the all american williams sisters final

Expat
Jul 8th, 2008, 02:08 PM
Well you cannot compare the mens final yesterday because that went on all day and finished at 9.30 at night. Obviously you're going to have way more of an audience then. Thing is though, all-Williams finals traditionally don't do that well in Britain and coupled with that there's an overall downward trend since the beginning of the decade.

2008 - Serena/Venus, 3.5m average (no peak given, 35% share for entire coverage with Robson)
2007 - Marion/Venus, 2.9m average (4.1m peak, 39% share)
2006 - Amelie/Justine, ? average (4.5m peak, 44% share)
2005 - Lindsay/Venus, 5.4m average (6.8m peak, 36% share)
2004 - Serena/Maria, 4.4m average (6.3m peak, 55% share)
2003 - Serena/Venus, 4m average (5.5m peak, 52% share)
2002 - Serena/Venus, -3m average (no specific, just said under 3m)
2001 - Justine/Venus, 5.6m average (7.5m peak, 45% share)
2000 - Lindsay/Venus, 6.1m average (7.5m peak)

(those taken from the Guardian's media section, there's a written report for every day, hence why it's not always the average and the peak given.)

So, the interest in the game really did taper off in Britain when the Williamses originally were in the finals, it picked up pace every year after that but since 2005 (which was still significantly down on the same matchup 5 years previously) it's been in the crapper again. This new Williams final was basically halfway between the previous two and is a very saddening result as with two "superstars" as the bbc put it (which in tennis terms they most definitely are) Venus playing Serena barely got more than half a million viewers more than Venus and the unknown French girl.

To put all that into perspective the two previous Rafa/Roger finals got over 7m peak.

i guess this means that lindsay is the most popular in england

Shepster
Jul 8th, 2008, 02:40 PM
i guess this means that lindsay is the most popular in england
The thing to look at with the second Venus/Lindsay final is the share. It indicates that 18 million people were at home watching tv at that time, which is 50% more than the previous years where there were higher shares and lower ratings - it was on at a later timeslot as that only represents the viewing of the play after the rain delay, which didn't restart til after 4 and is not the rating for the whole match. There were basically 6 million more viewers available at that later time than there were for the 3 years before and after - 4-5 million or so were watching Live 8 on BBC2 and Venus & Lindsay probably got half of the remaining extra 1-2 million.

I'm more inclined to think seeing as the peak for the first Venus/Lindsay was the same as Venus/Henin when Justine was unknown here, it's not necessarily proof Lindsay is the most popular (more that she was more of a draw than Henin was at that time). I think what it means is the Williamses are popular (it's Maria, them, then the rest), just when they're a/ not playing each other and b/ playing someone good. Venus/Marion and Venus/Serena 1 being the worst rated finals this decade would indicate that too.

Infiniti2001
Jul 8th, 2008, 02:47 PM
The US open is the most watched slam anyway :shrug:

Dawson.
Jul 8th, 2008, 02:48 PM
http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/other/display.var.2381722.0.10_million_tune_in_as_Doctor _Who_sets_out_to_battle_Daleks.php

:eek: wow 4.5 million watching a junior match on a saturday afternoon is very impressive!
i know murray had about 10 million watch his match against gasquet - prime time, monday night.

Slutiana
Jul 8th, 2008, 03:03 PM
Well the rain delays and everything helped the Federer-Nadal match go into prime-time. I bet the peak came right at the end of the match. :shrug: It's kind of hard to compare the mens and the womens because of how sexist wimbledon is on the women. Sorry, the non-british women.. ;)

If Robson didn't have a higher rating than the WS it would have been suprising because of how cringeworthy the papers are when reporting about a sucessful brit.

But very interesting.

Malva
Jul 8th, 2008, 03:06 PM
If you read between the lines of this thread, it's like folks want to see tennis fail. (...)

If you only love the game because of a particular player, then you're missing something really great. It's fantastic to have your favorites (...), but you appreciate and respect other players and enjoy the thrill of the competition.


A great post and a very timely reproach! Thank you!

Shepster
Jul 8th, 2008, 03:33 PM
The US open is the most watched slam anyway :shrug:
- Over 75 million people watched all or some of the 2007 US Open on television. More than 45 million people watched all or part of CBSís coverage, including nearly 17 million viewers of the Menís Final. The US Open was broadcast to more than 180 countries around the world, including the Armed Forces Network reaching U.S. troops worldwide.

- The 2006 [Wimbledon] Championships coverage of 8,233 hours was broadcast to networks around the world in 178 territories reaching an estimated cumulative audience of over 562 million homes.

This year, in Britain, with 1/5th of the population of the USA, in the *second week alone* got 52.4m and that's not counting the girls/womens singles and mens/womens doubles seperately.

Rafa/Roger final - 12.7m
Girls'/Women's final - 4.1m avg. for both
Doubles final - 2m avg for both
Roger/Safin semi - 2.4m avg.
Rafa/Rainer semi - 1.5m avg.
Womens' semis - 1.9m avg for both.
Murray/Rafa qf - 10.4m
Mens quarters - 2.7m avg for rest.
Womens qf highlights - 1.5m
Murray/Gasquet - 10.4m
Last 16 monday - 2.3m average.
Last 16 highlights - 0.5m

supergrunt
Jul 8th, 2008, 04:50 PM
Total BS. When I talk about tennis with people, the only players they know are Serena and Venus and usually, almost 100 percent of the time they think they kick ass. I have no idea where you are living.

Do you like the Williams sisters? Your conversations are prob. only a small percent of their total likability. Having said that, I live in a very conservative area and every body I know who plays tennis either does not like the Williams sisters, or simply doesn't care for women's tennis. Quite honestly the majority of the their fans are black. I think there was even a study that proved that the Williamses were the most popular, but not that high on likability. Idk... good ratings though I guess. :)

ivanban
Jul 8th, 2008, 05:10 PM
OMG, WSs final drew bigger TV rating than Vee - Fatoli?!!! Shocking achievement :speakles:

Plus, I don't see thread title mentioning that this involves only USA TV ratings :rolleyes:

Sir Stefwhit
Jul 10th, 2008, 12:20 AM
Well you cannot compare the mens final yesterday because that went on all day and finished at 9.30 at night. Obviously you're going to have way more of an audience then. Thing is though, all-Williams finals traditionally don't do that well in Britain and coupled with that there's an overall downward trend since the beginning of the decade.

2008 - Serena/Venus, 3.5m average (no peak given, 35% share for entire coverage with Robson)
2007 - Marion/Venus, 2.9m average (4.1m peak, 39% share)
2006 - Amelie/Justine, ? average (4.5m peak, 44% share)
2005 - Lindsay/Venus, 5.4m average (6.8m peak, 36% share)
2004 - Serena/Maria, 4.4m average (6.3m peak, 55% share)
2003 - Serena/Venus, 4m average (5.5m peak, 52% share)
2002 - Serena/Venus, -3m average (no specific, just said under 3m)
2001 - Justine/Venus, 5.6m average (7.5m peak, 45% share)
2000 - Lindsay/Venus, 6.1m average (7.5m peak)

(those taken from the Guardian's media section, there's a written report for every day, hence why it's not always the average and the peak given.)

So, the interest in the game really did taper off in Britain when the Williamses originally were in the finals, it picked up pace every year after that but since 2005 (which was still significantly down on the same matchup 5 years previously) it's been in the crapper again. This new Williams final was basically halfway between the previous two and is a very saddening result as with two "superstars" as the bbc put it (which in tennis terms they most definitely are) Venus playing Serena barely got more than half a million viewers more than Venus and the unknown French girl.

To put all that into perspective the two previous Rafa/Roger finals got over 7m peak.
OK, so Venus and Serena finals aren't as popular as they used to be when compared to themselves, but that still doesn't shed any light on how a final with Venus or Serena compares with finals without either of them. If 2006 had a higher rating then I guess it could be fair to say that comparitively speaking, people in the UK aren't that interested in them. But if the 2006 average is lower, then one can conclude the opposite and that while they may not be as popular as the men or as they used to be, they're still more popular than most of the other women currently on tour.

The bottom line is that it's hard to really know because with the exception of the 2006 final, you've got to go back a mighty long time to find finals you could use to compare where there weren't any Williams sister playing in them. And if you go back too far the comparisons aren't really as relevant.

frontier
Jul 10th, 2008, 01:48 AM
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