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Morrissey
Jul 6th, 2008, 07:32 PM
I think the 2005 Wimbledon final in Venus career was the start of her "comeback" to returning to champion form. I think people forget how hard it is to play a sibling but also to LOSE to a sibling it must hurt. I think Venus incredible fight against Davenport has given her the confidence to believe no matter what she can win. Davenport had so many chance to win but Venus dug deep and pulled out the awesome victory. Also, I think because of the confidence this helped her against Serena helping Venus to realize she isn't just Serena's sister she is also a great tennis champion. No Venus isn't the most consistent player but so what? She has won Wimbledon five times and she's in the history books forever. I think the 2005 Wimbledon has given Venus the inner belief she can overcome the odds.

-VSR-
Jul 6th, 2008, 07:34 PM
I think Wimbledon 2005 was a career saving tournament for Venus. Before that she was in one of the most horrible slumps ever since coming back that 2003 injury/trauma experience. She found a way to get the confidence back and I think she's healthy and ready to make another run. :yeah:

Morrissey
Jul 6th, 2008, 07:41 PM
Yes the 2005 Wimbledon did "save" Venus career because if she lost that match the critics would of said she is "finished". But Venus refused to lose she refused to give up. Lindsay just wasn't firm enough on that championship point she was hoping Venus would double fault again or hit an error. Instead, Venus went for it she went for her shots and cracked a winner. And I think that's just gave Venus a lot of confidence realizing that Davenport was getting tight. Remember Davenport served for the match at 6-5 in the second set. I don't think people give Venus enough credit for her incredible fighting spirit in that match. Venus 2005 Wimbledon victory is the most important victory of her career until now. The win over Serena yesterday is just going to give Venus EVEN MORE SELF CONFIDENCE. Venus served so smart and well against Serena she also volleys very well too. Also, I might add despite the hard times in Venus career she never gave up. Imagine, losing five slam finals in a ROW. How many players bounce back from that to win multiple slam titles? It is amazing Venus mental toughness.

vwfan
Jul 7th, 2008, 12:35 AM
she's incredible, no doubt. let's hope she goes on a run now.

after Serena finally beat Venus convincingly in Miami 2002, she never looked back. perhaps Venus will response this way as well. Serena has now had her day in the sun and now perhaps Venus can shine again, too and complete some unfinished business she has: Aus Open and French Open titles are at the top of the list.:cool:

slamchamp
Jul 7th, 2008, 12:39 AM
but I really wonder why does she plays like crap outside of wimbledon, the only tournament this year she played great was hong kong:tape:

Uranium
Jul 7th, 2008, 12:41 AM
but I really wonder why does she plays like crap outside of wimbledon, the only tournament this year she played great was hong kong:tape:

Did you see her matches?
Venus played well at Bangalore, Miami, and Rome. Just because you don't win the event doesn't mean you play like crap:rolleyes:

winone23
Jul 7th, 2008, 12:44 AM
I think the 2005 Wimbledon final in Venus career was the start of her "comeback" to returning to champion form. I think people forget how hard it is to play a sibling but also to LOSE to a sibling it must hurt. I think Venus incredible fight against Davenport has given her the confidence to believe no matter what she can win. Davenport had so many chance to win but Venus dug deep and pulled out the awesome victory. Also, I think because of the confidence this helped her against Serena helping Venus to realize she isn't just Serena's sister she is also a great tennis champion. No Venus isn't the most consistent player but so what? She has won Wimbledon five times and she's in the history books forever. I think the 2005 Wimbledon has given Venus the inner belief she can overcome the odds.

Morrissey didn't you say Venus' career was dead?

Dave.
Jul 7th, 2008, 12:48 AM
I think Wimbledon 2005 was career-saving. I was just thinking the other day, if she didn't win that final, I really don't know if she'd ever win a big title again.

Wimbledon 2007 was more of a turning point. She had been out of form/injured since 2006 and that tournament really got her back into top form. Since then, she has played a decent no. of events and has been consistent enough to stay inside the top10, something she didn't do after her 2005 victory.

Morrissey
Jul 7th, 2008, 01:05 AM
I think at the age of 28 Venus is focusing on the big events. I think the grand slams matter to her most now. Yes, winning Miami or whatever is important but slams count more. I think Venus is just enjoying her tennis and trying to stay fit and healthy. Venus loves tennis and she loves Wimbledon. It would be nice to see Venus win the Australian or French though that would be cool.

Uranium
Jul 7th, 2008, 01:14 AM
It would be nice to see Venus win the Australian or French though that would be cool.

yes, it would be cool,:hearts:

Marshmallow
Jul 7th, 2008, 03:43 AM
Morrissey didn't you say Venus' career was dead?

:haha: I remember that RIP Venus williams career 1997-2007? :lol: Venus is making Veeliever out of everyone.


Was 2005 a turning point? It's hard to say, because Venus has still yet to set a tournament on fire outside wimbledon since that 'turning point', got close at the US Open last year but ... But I do think it was important for her own self belief, because I remember at the time I used to think Venus' confidence on court was fragile because she knew she was a great talent, but was clutching at matches wanting the wins so badly because she hadn't had any in a while, that ultimately this craving was helping her lose matches (Antwerp 05 Final). You can just see what a different player Venus is post wimbledon, it's not just the surface, Venus has a solid and stable confidence that, provided she has a good schedule and stays healthy could translate into more success.

But I'm hesitant about calling it a turning point, and Venus hasn't had the best health after her wimbledon wins. But shes healthy now, and with a smart schedule THIS could have been her turning pointing, propelling her to winning big titles outside of Wimbledon. If she can stay healthy, serve and move like she did... there aren't many players that can stop here.

Capitalise Vee!!!

darrinbaker00
Jul 7th, 2008, 03:49 AM
:haha: I remember that RIP Venus williams career 1997-2007? :lol:
Here it is:
http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=301366

Morrissey is, in my opinion, the funniest poster on this board.

Marshmallow
Jul 7th, 2008, 04:01 AM
Morrissey didn't you say Venus' career was dead?

Here it is:
http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=301366

Morrissey is, in my opinion, the funniest poster on this board.

O.M.G I laughed my way through that but as a Venus fan some of that seems almost unforgiveable, just rude.

It doesn't even make sense how the OP can suggest 2005 was a turning point, twhen in 2007 he was posting THAT.

Oh Morrissey :o. Hopefully a born again Veeliever.

Thanx Mr. B :D

hankqq
Jul 7th, 2008, 04:01 AM
Wimbledon 2005 was HUGE for Venus-she hadn't won a slam in nearly 4 years, and everyone just assumed the game was passing her by. Although she'll probably never be as consistent as she was from 2000-2003, I think there are still plenty of big titles besides Wimbledon that she'll win in the next few years.

Dawn Marie
Jul 7th, 2008, 04:04 AM
The turning point was when she had her wrist surgery imho. Since then Venus has actually been serving alot better in many of her matches. When she is serving well her game comes together. If Vee lost to Lindsay back in 2005, I would still feel that she could win slams again in 06,07 and 08.
I wouldn't be surprised if Venus won the US Open. This year.

Thanx4nothin
Jul 7th, 2008, 04:09 AM
but I really wonder why does she plays like crap outside of wimbledon, the only tournament this year she played great was hong kong:tape:

If she played crap at the US last year then what did Sharpie do?
She played well in AO
She played well in Rome

Really Venus has had a decent season so far, a few surprising loses, yes, but all in all she has won another slam, which may well propel her to more titles and good results like last year.

tennisIlove09
Jul 7th, 2008, 04:18 AM
Did you see her matches?
Venus played well at Bangalore, Miami, and Rome. Just because you don't win the event doesn't mean you play like crap:rolleyes:

Exactly. Serena at Wimbledon is a perfect example of that.

Stamp Paid
Jul 7th, 2008, 04:36 AM
she's incredible, no doubt. let's hope she goes on a run now.

after Serena finally beat Venus convincingly in Miami 2002, she never looked back. perhaps Venus will response this way as well. Serena has now had her day in the sun and now perhaps Venus can shine again, too and complete some unfinished business she has: Aus Open and French Open titles are at the top of the list.:cool:This obsession with Serena must cease. Their careers are not as intertwined as you gals make it out to be, especially since coming back from injury in 2004. Venus has not been Serena's main obstacle to success for the past 5 years, and vice versa.

winone23
Jul 7th, 2008, 04:40 AM
O.M.G I laughed my way through that but as a Venus fan some of that seems almost unforgiveable, just rude.

It doesn't even make sense how the OP can suggest 2005 was a turning point, twhen in 2007 he was posting THAT.

Oh Morrissey :o. Hopefully a born again Veeliever.

Thanx Mr. B :D

:lol::lol::lol:Thanks for a second there I thought that I was wrong. Morrissey, must be enjoying the miraculous resurrection of Venus' career.

Leo_DFP
Jul 7th, 2008, 05:25 AM
The turning point was when she had her wrist surgery imho. Since then Venus has actually been serving alot better in many of her matches. When she is serving well her game comes together. If Vee lost to Lindsay back in 2005, I would still feel that she could win slams again in 06,07 and 08.
I wouldn't be surprised if Venus won the US Open. This year.
When did she have her wrist surgery? And how long was the recovery time?

I ask that because I was just saying how Venus' serve was relatively weak and meek (for her) between 2003-2006. And suddenly the last couple of seasons she's had BY FAR the biggest first serve on tour. Smacking it consistently in the 120s again. I was wondering what changed to make her hit the serve harder as she did between 1999-2002, because her technique/service motion seem to be the same.

50Sense
Jul 7th, 2008, 05:28 AM
Is there a maximum allotted time for a "comeback"?