View Full Version : Should FWTT players have 2 pro's?

Aug 6th, 2002, 08:02 PM
Should a person be able to have 2 pro players?

Aug 6th, 2002, 08:11 PM

I think it will be more interesting, and more players

Aug 6th, 2002, 08:11 PM
Why not! But I think it should be a MAXIMUM of 2 players...

VSFan1 aka Joshua L.
Aug 6th, 2002, 08:35 PM
Yes, I think so too. More players means more fun and more events :D

But I don't think it should be automatically granted....I think all should start out in juniors like normal -- and they have to prove themselves.

I think, for example, Zerene Fernandez, who does not play juniors often but plays pros is a good example. She should graduate. I think also if you win 2 junior Grand Slams, that should qualify for automatic promotion ;)

Aug 6th, 2002, 08:38 PM
pozi :bounce:

Aug 6th, 2002, 09:25 PM
Some people I think already do :rolleyes:

I don't think it's a big deal one way or the other... but Zerene would love to be able to turn pro :p

Aug 6th, 2002, 09:26 PM
Let me also say, though, that if 2 players are allowed, you should wait until next season to start it.

Aug 6th, 2002, 09:28 PM

Aug 7th, 2002, 02:48 AM
yes, meghann adeva should have been a pro a long itme ago ;)

Aug 7th, 2002, 06:13 AM
I can't vote for some reason, but I am very against this idea. My reason will be explained shortly.

Sam L
Aug 7th, 2002, 06:39 AM
The voting has been like that for me too. You have to keep retrying, and eventually it will get through.

However, judging by the results of the poll, your vote won't matter.

Just have a strong case as to why you don't want this to happen.

Aug 7th, 2002, 08:44 AM
I still can't vote.

I am very annoyed at this poll. Can I ask what is the point of having two pro players? Personally I think that it will take away from the game very much. We have already seen, Linzi Paterson vs. Paula Masterton. It is inevitable for players to play against eachother. Even if they play separate tournaments, at the grand slams they may be matched up against eachother. It's not fun when two players of the same poster play, cause the poster already knows the result and no one else cares.

Each player has a different personality. A certain way of playing. And I for one have used that as strategy. I know what certain players do to distribute their points and I use that to my advantage. With 2 players, it is just going to become a mess. It will be impossible to keep anything straight.

Ok now lets say Josh has Taliamonosoko and Mutola, and wongks has Jane and Mary Wong and Monca Rules has Monica and Anne Gambill in the pros PLUS A NEW PLAYER IN THE JUNIORS. How is it fair to a new poster that is just discovering the game starting out. They will have to start with one player in the juniors. They wil have to get through the more experienced posters in the juniors, and then face two more players from each poster in the pros. It will prove impossible. Also, what fun will it be for BabsiFan to have two players dominate the game.

What is the point??? If you want another player, play the juniors. If you want yet another, play one of the 10 copy cat games on the board. I think things are perfectly fine now. Why ruin them? However, its already starting to get dumb. Cuase juniors are getting wild cards and players ranked 12 have to play qualifying. Doesn't make much sense.

We are going to overdo this game and really damage it I think.

Mateo Mathieu
Aug 7th, 2002, 09:17 AM
I am against it!!

Aug 7th, 2002, 10:00 AM
I am in a bit of double dilemma, part of me think it is a good idea as it will boost the tour, with more player and it will be more fun, however, Tennis124 is very right in saying that it may lost a bit of fun if someone dominate the game with two players, and the game will become less and less strategic. (coz better player no longer can use the point system to their advantage if they have to play 5 players in a tier 3 draw etc.) and very soon we will see unseed winner wins all the time coz it will eventually goes into a game of lottery

Aug 7th, 2002, 02:14 PM
Consiedering I'm playing so many more games ,I'm finding it difficult to manage one player alone :eek:
How could I manage two ? :confused:

This tour would become much more boring ,if we had 2 players each ;)

King Aaron
Aug 7th, 2002, 02:36 PM
yes because we can have something to rely on if our player losses early

Aug 7th, 2002, 04:03 PM
I don't think its fair...For example a few tournaments ago One of the conde martinez sisters had a bye in the first round and Sandy, my player, had to play the other in the first round...Well Sandy won her first round match and who did she have to play in the second round? Another Conde Martinez...Which was extremely unfair because all the owner of those two had to do was use two different types of points and the chances are one will beat me...

Plus if you have two players you have double the chances of winning compared to a person who only has one...IMO its a bad idea...

Aug 7th, 2002, 05:36 PM
Absolutely not!!!

Aug 7th, 2002, 06:38 PM
i'm glad to see that i am finally getting ome support

Aug 7th, 2002, 06:47 PM
aloso, i'd like to point out, that people have multiple alias on the board and the polls are not accurate. you should base it on the replies

VSFan1 aka Joshua L.
Aug 7th, 2002, 07:10 PM
Okay, I'm starting to agree with Tiffini ;)

Change my "YES" vote to a "NO" vote. I am against having 2 pros.

Also, there have been a lot of complaints about Wild Cards to juniors, and I think Alx and I will work together for next years comittments and things will be completely revamped and less wild cards will be awarded.

Also, Alx and I are working on Gold Exempt status for FWTT. It will be similar to the WTA but with less players eligible for Gold Exempt status. What do you all think abouth that?

Aug 7th, 2002, 08:58 PM
Glad to see you agree Josh. It's very good to have your support.

What does Gold Exempt mean?

Aug 7th, 2002, 09:14 PM
Gold Exempt means that by finishing a certain ranking one year, you are guranteed I believe unlimited wildcards the next year. As for the issue, I don't think it is fair. Why should the top FWTT players be allowed to be gluttons by having countless players? And while the sheer number of players might grow higher, the number of individual posters playing will probably shrink. One player is enough for all of us. That is fair and square.

Aug 7th, 2002, 11:57 PM
I like having two pro players, but I do see its disadvantages. Nevertheless, I found juniors to be boring and disorganized with less flare than the pros. I like having my player play pros, plus I wanna make a new name! ;) But I do see its bad side.....ie. what joseusa19 said.

VSFan1 aka Joshua L.
Aug 8th, 2002, 12:54 AM
Gold Exempt would work like this -

The top 4 year-end players PLUS one extra voted on by the other FWTT players.

The advantages of Gold Exempt - you earn prize money from a year end pot ;) as long as you take an active part in the game. This includes posting articles in every tournament you enter.

In FWTT you will not get unlimited Wild Cards - you will be allowed to enter 2-4 exta events.

Also, you can enter late and change your entry as much as you want as a Gold Exempt player without being suffered with the "Late Entry" policy.

So, if you start out Gold Exempt, and fall down to #25 you can still enter the Top Tier events. :)

Also, maybe we are thinking that all Grand Slam winners that are NOT Gold Exempt should be allowed to enter one extra event.

Just little things like this to make the game more interesting. :)

Sam L
Aug 8th, 2002, 12:59 AM
So how can Regla be a gold exempt player?

Yes I am now opposed to having 2 players too, please change my vote from yes to no.

Also I feel we should be looking at ways to make it more interesting from what we have rather than introducing a whole new bunch of players.

Aug 8th, 2002, 02:37 AM
Tiffani won be over this argument after careful thoughts, I am changing my vote from yes to no

Aug 8th, 2002, 03:13 AM
I must say that I do agree with Tennis124 in that it is ridiculous that top 20 players are having to play qualies while some juniors get MD Wc's. However, I do like juniors playing SOME pro events, but only if they have a sufficient ranking or room is available for a WC.

I have to change my answer to NO, as I do see the many disadvantages. I would like Gold exempt WC though! :o

Aug 8th, 2002, 03:25 AM
I would also like to add that juniors can be given wildcards. That is really great. Especially and maybe only to the posters without any other pros. I also think that these Wild cards should be granted into the qualifying and not the main draw and take away the spot from a top 15 player. It is great that this league is thriving, I don't think we need to clog it with duplicate players. Thanks for the support, keep it coming!!

VSFan1 aka Joshua L.
Aug 8th, 2002, 04:14 AM
So right now the vote is 14 yes 13 no? ;)

So Tiff, what about the Gold Exempt stuff......what you think about it? By the way....you should be a lawyer, lol.

Aug 8th, 2002, 04:37 AM
Well, based on the posts in this forum the votes are 7yes -11 no. I think that alx needs to make the final decision. If he still wants a democratic vote then we need to each post our vote with our name. Not using the poll thing.

Thanks Josh for the compliment. I just feel very strongly about this and told this to alx last year when he asked me the same question. Gold exempt sounds cool. I mean like Martina N should be allowed to play any tournament she wants nowadays, I think. So there could be a thing like that in our game.

Also, back to what m!ssundaztooD said, in real tennis if a player loses what do they have to fall back on? only doubles. thats what we have. there shouldnt be another player.

why do venus and serena not play the same events, because they don't like playing each other. its just a bad bad idea.

i agree juniors is disorganized. i think that i did a decent job with it last summer. but i had computer problems and lost all my hard work to a virus. and i dont have the time to make the same committment, but that shouldn't have any affect on the fwtt game.

Aug 8th, 2002, 04:47 AM
I'm trying my best:fiery: with the juniors!

Aug 8th, 2002, 04:56 AM
i know, you are working hard to clean it up and you are doing a good job, thanks rus 4 ever!

King Aaron
Aug 8th, 2002, 11:07 AM
Tennis124, I know about the real life thing but when we get so excited and is so happy hoping we can win but then we suddenly lose it'd be very disppointing and sometimes we don't play doubles. However, I really wouldn't have mind about the no. of players allowed since it's tough to manage them

Aug 9th, 2002, 03:36 AM
Russia 4 ever, I hope you do a good job with it too! I'm glad you are taking on this big responsibility!

the jamierbelyea
Aug 9th, 2002, 05:28 AM
I disagree w. two players...

I agree w. Tennis124 totally

Aug 10th, 2002, 11:10 PM
I like to see how an unique opinion can change everyone´s opinion in a second wether if their own opinion had some good arguments inside it or not.

Aug 10th, 2002, 11:12 PM
btw, I don´t remember who said that it wouldn´t be very nice to see Larissa and her partner dominating the tour, but who guarantees that? maybe the other player wouldn´t win any match in the tour.

Aug 17th, 2002, 02:34 PM
I vote for no

Aug 20th, 2002, 05:48 PM
anyways I think the poll was only for a week and the time´s gone many days ago ;) so the Yes wins.

Aug 20th, 2002, 08:55 PM
I'm glad to find that people have started opposing the idea now :D:D
As I said , it make the tour a mess ,and players who play other games too ,will have no time to manage two players in FWTT.
If you are interested in a 2nd player ,please try other games like FWTA, ETA and Fantasy Season.