PDA

View Full Version : NCAA Championship predictions


desariofan
May 9th, 2008, 02:29 AM
Who's poised to take it at the end? The top 4 are Northwestern, Georgia, Stanford, and Ga Tech. Of the four, Northwestern looks the strongest. I have no idea how Georgia is all the way up at #2. Stanford and Ga Tech have been very shakey at the end. 2 out of 3 critics over at tennisrecruiting.com are calling for FL (6) to reach the final and take them all out.
Any takers?

trivfun
May 9th, 2008, 03:33 PM
Who's poised to take it at the end? The top 4 are Northwestern, Georgia, Stanford, and Ga Tech. Of the four, Northwestern looks the strongest. I have no idea how Georgia is all the way up at #2. Stanford and Ga Tech have been very shakey at the end. 2 out of 3 critics over at tennisrecruiting.com are calling for FL (6) to reach the final and take them all out.
Any takers?

What about UCLA?

desariofan
May 10th, 2008, 01:37 AM
Critic didn't mention anything about UCLA. I don't believe they are even in the top 5. But, you never know. I am thinking GA Tech might make it all the way again. For some reason they seem to be able to put it together in a big tournament. They could face UF, however. That'll be their biggest test. Northwestern is too talented for not able to make it all the way to finals. Stanford could provide the upset, however.

In the end, we might just see another classical finals between the 2 most storied programs in women's tennis: UF vs Stanford.

thoughts??

urklerlay
May 11th, 2008, 07:47 AM
huh? Stanford is on a 9 match win streak and has won their last 24 out of 25. is that your idea of 'shakey'?

anyway, for Stanford to reach the finals, the seniors really need to step it up. Durkin came through in doubles, but got killed in singles against Tex A&M.

Stanford and Ga Tech have been very shakey at the end.

desariofan
May 11th, 2008, 09:16 AM
huh? Stanford is on a 9 match win streak and has won their last 24 out of 25. is that your idea of 'shakey'?

anyway, for Stanford to reach the finals, the seniors really need to step it up. Durkin came through in doubles, but got killed in singles against Tex A&M.

a nine match win streak is really nothing to be pride about when you use that to go with a program like Stanford. You are talking about a tennis program that's used to win nationals year after year. TO have more than 2 losses in one single season for a program like that is "Shakey". Regardless, I did predict that they'd make it all the way to the finals against FL. We'll see how that plays out.

cheo23
May 11th, 2008, 04:59 PM
Celia is actually a GOOD player, but I just don't understand why she got killed yesterday. I had thought she was going to Play at No.2 as a senior!!

desariofan
May 12th, 2008, 05:32 AM
Celia is actually a GOOD player, but I just don't understand why she got killed yesterday. I had thought she was going to Play at No.2 as a senior!!

it has been the case for stanford this whole season. such a talented team and so tough, but yet sometimes they aren't focused enough. perhaps they are getting a bit complacent? i still think they'd go through to the finals, though, however.

desariofan
May 12th, 2008, 05:45 AM
The sweet 16 are in. Those are the teams who made it through and i'll give it my best shot to make predictions with these...

Sweet 16 Predictions!!

Left Half:

1 Northwestern vs 16 Fresno
Northwestern easily 4-0

8 California vs 9 Duke
Both have come through easily for far. I am giving the edge to Duke 4-2

4 Stanford vs 13 Clemson
This is where Stanford could get shaky. I say a tight 4-2 for Stanford, however, with the 2 winning coming back from brink of losing

5 Baylor vs 12 Miami
Baylor 4-1

Right Half

11 Vanderbilt vs 6 Florida
Vandy barely got by Kentucky last round where as FL has been looking very solid. Florida 4-0

Texas vs 3 Ga Tech
This could provide the upset of the tournament here. I say Texas stays alive when the dust is settled: 4-3

10 USC vs 7 UCLA
A pac-10 rematch... the edge goes to UCLA 4-2

Arkansas vs 2 Gerogia
Arkansas upset UNC to get here, even with their #1 ranked player losing. I say Arkansas 4-3

desariofan
May 12th, 2008, 05:51 AM
Quarterfinal Predictions!!

1 Northwestern vs 9 Duke - Duke plays their best, but still won't come close: 4-1
4 Stanford vs 5 Baylor - Stanford regroups from the near loss in previous round and puts on a perfect match: 4-2
6 Florida vs Texas - FL takes out Texas in championship form: 4-1
7 UCLA vs 2 Arkansas - Arkansas' luck runs out to UCLA: 4-2

desariofan
May 12th, 2008, 05:59 AM
Semis!

1 Northwestern vs 4 Stanford - Stanford shows why they have been the most winning program in women's tennis by staging another stellar performance, albeit a close contest: 4-3
6 Florida vs 7 UCLA - A rematch of last year's quarterfinals. Florida takes the revenge and reverses the score to a better finish: 4-2

FINALS

4 Stanford vs 6 Florida - This match between two of the most successful programs in women's tennis has been played out countless times. Florida took out Stanford at home for the title in 2003 and Stanford got its revenge a couple years ago in the semi's. Like a pendulum, the luck swings back to Florida this time and the Gators takes home their 5th NCAA National titles in another classically contested final: 4-3

cheo23
May 12th, 2008, 07:35 AM
it has been the case for stanford this whole season. such a talented team and so tough, but yet sometimes they aren't focused enough. perhaps they are getting a bit complacent? i still think they'd go through to the finals, though, however.

They just don't have the BEST players anymore like Amber Liu and Anne Yelsey. Now they face the consequences of having the most number of losses in the regular season in a LONG time. If they win the NCAAs I will be really, really surprised.

desariofan
May 12th, 2008, 07:46 AM
They just don't have the BEST players anymore like Amber Liu and Anne Yelsey. Now they face the consequences of having the most number of losses in the regular season in a LONG time. If they win the NCAAs I will be really, really surprised.

Ya those were the golden years. I would say the tennis monopoly's fallen LOL j/k. I never thought the once dominating Stanford would step down from the throne as queen of tennis.

What do you think of the predictions? What are you top 4 picks? And, who wins it all?

Tennisace
May 13th, 2008, 04:44 AM
Celia is actually a GOOD player, but I just don't understand why she got killed yesterday. I had thought she was going to Play at No.2 as a senior!!

She injured herself in Friday's match...but I guess it wasn't that serious seeing how she played Saturday?

cheo23
May 13th, 2008, 06:32 AM
How do you know she injured herself? Btw, I predict that Stanford will not reach the final.

desariofan
May 13th, 2008, 11:02 AM
How do you know she injured herself? Btw, I predict that Stanford will not reach the final.

who will win it all?

Tennisace
May 13th, 2008, 02:31 PM
How do you know she injured herself? Btw, I predict that Stanford will not reach the final.

Round of 16 awaits Stanford

Women's tennis travels to Tulsa, Okla. looking to wins its fourth national title in five years

May 12, 2008 (http://daily.stanford.edu/2008/5/12)
By Anthony Nguyen (http://daily.stanford.edu/author/Anthony+Nguyen)
Two down, four to go.
Junior Jessica Nguyen and the No. 4 Stanford women’s tennis team experienced litle trouble in the first and second rounds this weekend.

Opening the 2008 NCAA Tournament on the Farm, the No. 4 Stanford women’s tennis team punched its ticket to Tulsa, Okla. with two wins over the weekend.

Playing in front of the home crowd, the Cardinal women continued their dominance at home.

“I definitely love playing at school and in front of the Stanford crowd,” freshman Hilary Barte said. “There’s something electric about the crowd. I could definitely feel it turn up the intensity to another level mentally and energy-wise for both matches.”

To start off their 27th consecutive appearance at the Tournament, the Cardinal women blanked Boston University 4-0, in quick fashion.

Barte returned to the courts in doubles, teaming up with sophomore Lindsay Burdette for an 8-0 win.
Stanford would sweep doubles for a 1-0 lead.

Recovering from a strain at the Pac-10 Championships, Barte was kept out of the singles lineup against the Terriers as a precautionary measure.

“I was itching to get out there,” Barte said. “I knew we’d be playing a lot of tennis ahead, so there was no need to rush. By helping myself I was helping the team.”

Junior Jessica Nguyen stepped in for Barte and easily won 6-0, 6-0 against Francine Whu. Burdette also recorded a 6-0, 6-0 victory, and freshman Carolyn McVeigh sealed the win with a 6-1, 6-2 victory.

In the match, senior Celia Durkin appeared to injure herself against Vanessa Steiner. Despite the injury, Durkin led 6-4, 4-1 when play was suspended.

“Cel[ia]’s such a fighter and competitor,” Barte said. “Even when we’re practicing and she’s hurt, she doesn’t tell anyone. Last year she played the entire year with mono and she did great.

“If she’s hurt, she’ll make up for it in effort,” Barte added.
Saturday’s matchup against Texas A&M wasn’t nearly as easy as the opening round, however.
On the afternoon, doubles play began at 12:13 p.m. and finished at 1:55 p.m. when Durkin and McVeigh won 9-8 (2) on Court 3.

“To watch Cel[ia] and Carolyn pull off the win was great,” Barte said. “Throughout the season, they’ve been extremely clutch. When I see them battling out and they’re the last team on, I feel confident — they really come through when we need them to.”
In singles, Barte returned to the top of the lineup with a quick and flawless 6-0, 6-2 win over Elze Potgieter.

“It felt great to get back out there and play side by side with my teammates,” Barte said. “I look forward to more of it in Tulsa.”

In fact, Barte logged only 1 hour and 42 minutes of court time, nearly the length of Durkin and McVeigh’s doubles match.

But, timing aside, the results are what counted in the 4-1 victory over the Aggies.

“We all go out there and give it our all every match,” Barte said. “It doesn’t matter how long it takes, as long as you get it done.”

After Barte’s win, Durkin fell 6-2, 6-1 to Anna Blagodarova, trimming the Cardinal lead in half.
However, McVeigh surged back for a 6-3, 6-0 win, and senior Whitney Deason clinched the match with a 6-3, 6-3 tally.

With the two wins, the Cardinal women are now 106-12 in the postseason. They extended their home win streak to 134 matches, and have won their last 28 postseason matches on the Farm.
Though Stanford now heads to Tulsa along with 15 other top programs, they are confident in their abilities to win away from home, especially after a travel-heavy season.

“We played away a lot this season,” Barte said. “In February we were gone almost every weekend. We’re looking forward to making Tulsa our home court for a week.”

On Thursday, Stanford will face off against No. 13 Clemson in the Round of 16.
But, currently on a nine-match win streak, the Cardinal women are certainly aiming for higher goals.
“We’re definitely one of the top teams vying for the national championship,” Barte said, “It’s definitely going to be a battle. We’re not going to just walk through. We have a chance but we just have to fight hard.”

Today, Stanford will head to Tulsa, where they’ll prepare for their Thursday match against the Tigers. Starting then, the Cardinal will be four victories and five days away from reclaiming the national title.

urklerlay
May 13th, 2008, 03:51 PM
Here's an article that appeared in the SF Chronicle earlier this month:


NCAA TENNIS CHAMPIONSHIPS
Barte finds her niche in college instead of as pro
Freshman is thrust into spotlight for Stanford

Bryan Chu, Chronicle Staff Writer

Wednesday, May 7, 2008

(05-06) 20:50 PDT -- Life on the tennis tour wasn't what Hilary Barte expected.

There were those lonely nights in hotel rooms wondering what her senior year of high school could have been like. There were those countless flights for tournament after tournament, in the United States and overseas. And, oh yeah, for a youngster with high hopes, there was also that reality check.

"I definitely struggled," said Barte, who could only muster a guess of around 480 for her top ranking in the world. "After I played at the U.S. Open, and I noticed how all the players were so mature, I knew going to college would help me."

So, having kept her amateur status, she cut short her fledgling career on tour and went to Stanford.

Barte, a freshman, is No. 3 in the nation in singles and is the top player for fourth-seeded Stanford, which hosts Boston University in the first round of the NCAA tournament Friday.

At the start of the season, the 19-year-old lefty from Chatsworth (Los Angeles County) was more pedestrian than anything.

Barte vacillated between the three and two spot in the lineup and had an 8-5 record. Her season, however, received a jolt when she fell into the top spot after injuries to Stanford's key players.

Barte took advantage of the late-February fortune, stringing together 19 straight victories.

"We haven't had too many people put together a string that long and that well at the No. 1 position," said Stanford coach Lele Forood, who is aiming for her sixth NCAA team title in eight years at the helm. "I think (the move) inspired, motivated her more. She knew she had to take each match, in a way, more seriously."

Barte, who holds a 27-6 record, saw her streak snapped in the quarterfinals of the Pac-10 championships when she had to withdraw from the match because of a hyperextended left shoulder, an injury she said should be fine now.

At first glance, Barte is a 5-foot-5 freshman who likes to hum to herself and is rarely seen without a smile on her face.

That's deceiving when it comes to competition.

Teammates describe Barte as the ultra competitor. She keeps score for everything, even a friendly game of pingpong or paper football at the dinner table.

"Hilary's competitiveness comes out all the time," said sophomore Lindsay Burdette, who is Barte's doubles partner.

Forood added: "It's the joy of competing and keeping score that keeps her having a good time."

Lex Barte, Hilary's older brother by four years, knows a lot about that.

When Lex was in the fourth grade, and Barte in kindergarten, the two would have batting practice in the backyard. Lex was the pitcher and Barte the batter. A lot of balls wound up over the fence.

"I was really frustrated," remembers Lex, now 23. "She was this little thing and I'd throw my hardest. I'd look at her and she would just smile."

Hilary picked up a tennis racket at age 6. She remembers hating the sport at first, often getting upset at herself for unforced errors. By the time she was 10, she had made up her mind to stick with it.

"I was having so much fun watching the other person run around and seeing them kind of like at my mercy," she said.

desariofan
May 14th, 2008, 02:10 AM
Thanks for all the information regarding the players and such. But, let's not forget this is a prediction thread. I know it's easy to get off track, but give me your best shot at predicting the outcome of this year's NCAA championships, folks :)

Tennisace
May 15th, 2008, 01:43 PM
My Predictions
1 Northwestern def. 16 Fresno 4-0
Northwestern arguably has one of the strongest No. 1 to 5 line-ups in the country. Very strong No. 1/2 punch and Ghazal at No. 5 is basically a guarentee, making it tough for any team to take out NW. Fresno State should have been much stronger with a pretty good No. 1 to 4, but no where near NW.

8 California def. 9 Duke 4-3
Very tight match. There are great match-ups up and down the line-up. The doubles point will be very important, and the winner will claim the doubles point. That being said I think Duke has a stronger doubles line-up. In order for Cal to win they must sweep the lower courts No. 5 and No. 6 (Cal has a stronger line-up here). And then a win at No. 1 or No. 4 even if Cal loses the doubles point. No. 4 between Mang and Ilckinas will be a great match between two hot players. Babos needs to win at No. 1 against Iyer, who really isn't that good this year (despite her All-American win) but Babos has been having a rather poor year. Babos will play No. 1, seeing how putting Cossou at No. 2 is a better choice strategically (Babos being a senior, and Cossou at No. 2 will give a Cal a better shot at winning a point there). In this dual, Cossou will have a much better chance vs. Nze seeing how she has a counter puncher game which matches well against the hard hitting of Nze. If you like moonballs, watch the No. 3 match between Zslinksa and Visico. If the dual comes down to the last match, it will be this one seeing how they will be extremely long points. If this does happen bet your money on Cal and Visico, who is extremely mentally strong and is the person you want in this kind of spot.

4 Stanford def. 13 Clemson 4-1
Stanford has the weakest No. 5/6 singles line-up in a long time, luckily Clemson isn't much better at that section of the line-up. Stanford should cruise easily 4-0, although make it 4-1 because I can see them losing the doubles point.

5 Baylor def. 12 Miami 4-0
Baylor has a deeper team. Miami is a team that will upset teams ranked No. 6-11 but not much higher. Baylor 4-0


6 Florida def. 11 Vanderbilt 4-0
On paper Florida is much stronger, that being said Vandy has always been a dangerous opponent. It's unfortunate that Srebovic is not in the line-up, but Flordia will win 4-0.

3 Ga Tech def. Texas 4-1
Georgia Tech is too deep in singles and doubles to lose to a rather young Texas team. Unless Texas can steal the doubles point and get on the board early this upset isn't going to happen.

7 UCLA def. 10 USC 4-1
UCLA won both Pac-10 matches, and unless Nelson/Fansler can get their act together the Bruins are going to win again. It's a shame they had to meet so early in the draw. UCLA has Schnack back in singles at the spells bad news for all teams.

Arkansas def. 2 Gerogia 4-2
The problem with Georgia is this far into the tournament they're going to surrender No. 5/6 because they're really weak compared to the teams left in the draw. That puts Georgia down 0-2 already. That being said Arkansas' strength is also the top of the line-up. If Arkansas can grab the doubles point, it's an upset for the Razorbacks seeing how that puts them up basically 3-0. Georgia for the second straight year, overranked!!

Tennisace
May 15th, 2008, 02:06 PM
Here's My Prediction Beyond Sweet 16

I'll come after today's matches to give my further in-depth predictions but here's what I think will happen based on my earlier post.

Quarters
1 Northwestern def. 8 California 4-0

5 Baylor def. 4 Stanford 4-3
Very close, it'll come down to the No. 3-6 players. Yeah that's being really general but the problem is both teams have great No. 1/2s and Baylor has a great No. 3. That match will come down to the non-star players. Whoever wins though will lose to NW, I'm going to go with the Baylor upset.

6 Florida def. 3 Ga Tech 4-3

7 UCLA def. Arkansas 4-1

Semis
1 Northwestern def. 5 Baylor 4-1

7 UCLA def. 6 Florida 4-2

Finals
7 UCLA def. 1 Northwestern 4-3

tennis_pIayer
May 15th, 2008, 11:29 PM
I see UCLA beating stanford 4-3 in the finals
stanford will beat baylor 4-2. cal will beat NW easily 4-1 or 4-2. I am not impresseed by NWs players outdoors.
Stanford beats cal 4-2.
ucla beats everyone 4-1 or 4-2 to get to the finals.

Tennisace
May 17th, 2008, 04:43 PM
I see UCLA beating stanford 4-3 in the finals
stanford will beat baylor 4-2. cal will beat NW easily 4-1 or 4-2. I am not impresseed by NWs players outdoors.
Stanford beats cal 4-2.
ucla beats everyone 4-1 or 4-2 to get to the finals.

As much as I love Cal, NW is just a little better. NW has the better doubles teams and it will be considered a major upset if Cal can win the doubles. I can't imagine Babos beating Mosolova. They played in the fall (when Babos was in better form), which Mosolova won. She also has the type of game that Babos struggles against...counter puncher type game. Babos does better against hard hitters. NW's second point will be Mosolova at No. 1. The third point will be Murray at No. 3 over Visico. And the fourth point is No. 5 Ghazal over Kusano. I would say that NW has stronger players at the No. 1, 3, and 5 spots than Cal.

No. 2 Rose vs. Cossou is a toss up while I would favor Cal's No. 4 Ilcinkas and No. 6 Bobusic. The problem is Cal is going to have to win 4 of 6, which is going to be a tall order. Although Cal has shown that it can win 5 of 6 and 6 of 6 against Stanford and USC, also very tall orders.

tennis_pIayer
May 18th, 2008, 12:58 AM
Tennisace, you should have more confidence in your players.
Babos, visico and kusano all won for you!
GO CAL!!! go pac10
and DOWN GOES STANFORD. I'm so happy.
I hope Cal beats Baylor though.

Tennisace
May 18th, 2008, 02:32 AM
Tennisace, you should have more confidence in your players.
Babos, visico and kusano all won for you!
GO CAL!!! go pac10
and DOWN GOES STANFORD. I'm so happy.
I hope Cal beats Baylor though.

I'm well shocked. The thing with Babos is she can get hot really fast. Case in point in 2006 when she won the singles title, she was playing No. 2 singles because of poor form and had lost to Fresno State's No. 2 player (who was not very good...not even ranked) and this was before Fresno State was a top 16 team. Then not even two weeks later she was NCAA champion. Mosolova should have won that match, wasn't she up 3-0 in the third set? Should be a very interesting match between her and Zemenova, both look to be in very good form.

Visico is a true counter puncher through and through. Compared to other teams, she's a weak No. 3 player. In fact, she's without a doubt the fourth best No. 3 player out of the Final Four teams. I don't understand how players don't take advantage of her weak serves but you have to give it to her she knows how to win and is mentally very strong. If she wins her singles match, its almost a guarantee that Cal will win the dual.

Ghazal is like Elizabeth Lumpkin of UCLA in that they are stalwarts at the bottom of the line-up who hardly ever lose. I'm surprised that she went down so easily to Kusano. Granted I think Kusano's level of tennis has risen after a mediocre sophomore and junior years that and I think the fact that she's a senior and potentially playing her last match each time has really fueled her game.

Stanford was in major trouble when they lost the doubles point. They'll be much better next year with Clayton and Hansen. Barte and Nguyen will stay at the top. I think they'll put Clayton/Burdette in the No. 3/4 spot with McVeigh at No. 5 and Hansen at No. 6.

Baylor vs. Cal will be very interesting. Baylor has better doubles and should win the doubles point. Zemenova vs. Babos at No. 1 is a big toss up. Cossou vs. Ormond is very tight although I think I'm leaning towards Cossou. Brossova should handle Visico easily at No. 3. I think Cal has a stronger bottom line-up, and if they want a chance to reach their first final they need all three wins. Unfortunately for both Cal and Baylor, they're going to lose to whoever wins the other final. Cal has dropped the doubles point in the last two matches and then was able to come up with four wins in singles. I just don't know if they can keep on doing that this deep in the tournament and hence I think it's Baylor 4-3.

desariofan
May 18th, 2008, 03:48 AM
WOW when was the last time that the top 4 seeds did NOT make it to the semi's? ALL of them??

[5] Baylor def. [4] Stanford, 4-1
[8] California def. [1] Northwestern, 4-2
[7] UCLA def. [17-32] Arkansas, 4-0
[6] Florida def. [3] Georgia Tech, 4-2

All in a convincing fashion. Per may prediction, one of the semis is between UCLA and FL. But, I didn't see both Baylor and Cal taking out Stanford and Northwestern so soon in the draw. Wow.

FL will have a very tough match against UCLA, however. FL should take the doubles point. Julia should do well against Riza @ 1 singles. Didn't Csilla take out Tracy Lin last year at the NCAA singles? Megan @ 3 is hit and miss. Lastly, the depth of FL's 4, 5, 6 will end any of UCLA's hopes to advancing.

Baylor and California's match will be tight. Zusana is playing too well not to beat Susie. But Cal's Marina's gonna take #2 singles. I am giving the double's edge to Baylor. Although Cal has a very deep lineup, I see 2 of the girls dig it out to take Baylor into the Final's against FL.

FL vs Baylor in the Finals anyone??

desariofan
May 18th, 2008, 04:01 AM
I'm well shocked. The thing with Babos is she can get hot really fast. Case in point in 2006 when she won the singles title, she was playing No. 2 singles because of poor form and had lost to Fresno State's No. 2 player (who was not very good...not even ranked) and this was before Fresno State was a top 16 team. Then not even two weeks later she was NCAA champion. Mosolova should have won that match, wasn't she up 3-0 in the third set? Should be a very interesting match between her and Zemenova, both look to be in very good form.

Visico is a true counter puncher through and through. Compared to other teams, she's a weak No. 3 player. In fact, she's without a doubt the fourth best No. 3 player out of the Final Four teams. I don't understand how players don't take advantage of her weak serves but you have to give it to her she knows how to win and is mentally very strong. If she wins her singles match, its almost a guarantee that Cal will win the dual.

Ghazal is like Elizabeth Lumpkin of UCLA in that they are stalwarts at the bottom of the line-up who hardly ever lose. I'm surprised that she went down so easily to Kusano. Granted I think Kusano's level of tennis has risen after a mediocre sophomore and junior years that and I think the fact that she's a senior and potentially playing her last match each time has really fueled her game.

Stanford was in major trouble when they lost the doubles point. They'll be much better next year with Clayton and Hansen. Barte and Nguyen will stay at the top. I think they'll put Clayton/Burdette in the No. 3/4 spot with McVeigh at No. 5 and Hansen at No. 6.

Baylor vs. Cal will be very interesting. Baylor has better doubles and should win the doubles point. Zemenova vs. Babos at No. 1 is a big toss up. Cossou vs. Ormond is very tight although I think I'm leaning towards Cossou. Brossova should handle Visico easily at No. 3. I think Cal has a stronger bottom line-up, and if they want a chance to reach their first final they need all three wins. Unfortunately for both Cal and Baylor, they're going to lose to whoever wins the other final. Cal has dropped the doubles point in the last two matches and then was able to come up with four wins in singles. I just don't know if they can keep on doing that this deep in the tournament and hence I think it's Baylor 4-3.

Who do you reckon Baylor will meet in the Finals?

tennis_pIayer
May 18th, 2008, 05:22 AM
for UCLA florida, I see
#1- UCLA easily
#2- tossup, but probably ucla. lin is gonna play inspired tennis as its her last matches
#3- easily ucla. schnack is too good to lose to a counterpuncher. you have to hit her off the court
#4- easily ucla. remynse is much better than benik.
#5- tossup. could go either way.
#6- i'm gong with florida. florida is totlaly stacking the lineup with revzina down here. she was their #2 player last year.
doubles- it won't matter.
UCLA beats florida again.

desariofan
May 18th, 2008, 07:32 AM
for UCLA florida, I see
#1- UCLA easily
#2- tossup, but probably ucla. lin is gonna play inspired tennis as its her last matches
#3- easily ucla. schnack is too good to lose to a counterpuncher. you have to hit her off the court
#4- easily ucla. remynse is much better than benik.
#5- tossup. could go either way.
#6- i'm gong with florida. florida is totlaly stacking the lineup with revzina down here. she was their #2 player last year.
doubles- it won't matter.
UCLA beats florida again.

Good analysis. #3 Alexander is more of an aggressive baseliner than a counterpuncher however. But, she's hit & miss, although she has been on since day 1 of these championships. #1 I see Cohen taking Riza out of her rhythem with her all court tactical tennis against Riza's power baseline shots. The one sure singles victory for UCLA is #2 for Lin, even tho Borsanyi has beaten Lin before, but she's just too inconsistent right now to beat anyone, especially Lin. #5 Boonstra is unstoppable and undefeated in that position. #4 Benik is playing the best tennis out of her career at this moment, having taken out 2 consecutive ranked opponents in a row in Venderbilt & Ga Tech. She's also undefeated @ #4. FL takes the doubles point for the 23rd consecutive times.

Adding to the fuel energized by the loss of last year, FL will surely be extra prepared to avenge last year's loss.

When Miami beat FL in the NCAA 2004, FL won the next match against them. When Texas beat FL in 2005 NCAA's, FL won the next match against them. Granted the matches they won weren't NCAA's, but odds are heavily in FL's favor. With the execption of Stanford, I don't believe FL has lost 2 consecutive matchest against the same team in a row in its program history, at least not recently.

I say FL takes the semis.

OF COURSE all this is trash until the day of the match ROFL!!

Go gators!:bounce:

Tennisace
May 19th, 2008, 03:48 PM
for UCLA florida, I see
#1- UCLA easily
#2- tossup, but probably ucla. lin is gonna play inspired tennis as its her last matches
#3- easily ucla. schnack is too good to lose to a counterpuncher. you have to hit her off the court
#4- easily ucla. remynse is much better than benik.
#5- tossup. could go either way.
#6- i'm gong with florida. florida is totlaly stacking the lineup with revzina down here. she was their #2 player last year.
doubles- it won't matter.
UCLA beats florida again.

I favor UCLA at No. 2, No. 3, and No. 4. Lumpkin hasn't looked as sharp so I give Florida No. 5 and I doubt McGoodwin will be able to beat Revzina at No. 6. And Cohen hasn't looked that good in her last two matches. I do think that doubles will be the decider. Florida has the stronger doubles. I believe they haven't dropped the doubles point all year. Florida is stronger at No. 3 and will win that match. I favor UCLA at No. 1 and am inching toward Florida at No. 2. Extremely tight. UCLA will need to sweep No. 1 to No. 4 singles for the win. I'm only going to go with UCLA because they're an older team who reached the finals last year. I think it will make a difference and made the difference in the Cal-Northwestern match where Cal has a heavily junior/senior team that made the semis last year. Lucky for NW they return their entire line-up plus add blue chip Stacey Lee.

desariofan
May 19th, 2008, 07:07 PM
It's not looking good for FL. UCLA just took their doubles point.

UCLA is gonna sneak through FL...

gouci
May 19th, 2008, 07:36 PM
1st let me take a stab at why UCLA may not have been mentioned to contend for the NCAA title before the playoffs began.

1. UCLA hasn't had an opportunity to play with their full lineup because of injuries except for a handful of matches. This resulted in UCLA picking up too many losses. As a result they were given a #7 seed. UCLA did not get a chance to show people what they can do at full strength against some of the other elite teams.

2. UCLA on paper had a very tough road to win the title. In my opinion any top 10 team can beat any other top 10 team on any given day. However UCLA would ideally have had to down 4 top 10 teams in #10 USC, #2 Georgia, #3 Georgia Tech and #1 Northwestern in order to win the title. I can see why experts may not have mentioned UCLA when they ideally needed to beat 4 top 10 teams and no less needed to ideally beat the top 3 teams in a row for an ideally improbable NCAA title run.


However this year UCLA caught a few breaks. :bounce:

3. UCLA doesn't need to play any of the top 4 seeds to win the title, as they were all upset.

4. Someone else told me a good point. UCLA got an extra scholarship for this year (great timing) granted by the NCAA for a medical 5th year in Alex McGoodwin... since this occurred after they had signed Andrea Remynse, they get 9 scholies this year and then only 7 next year. Basically, they got an extra card in the deck. They have a deep team and this extra spot is huge for them now that Ashley Joelson, who played #4 last year, is hurt and out for the tourney... this extra scholie means they have not been hurt by having to bring up Victoria Lind to the 6th spot.

At the start of the season my favorite to win the national title was UCLA. The NCAA finalist the previous year had their top 8 players returning plus added a top 10 recruit Andrea Remynse who could crack the line-up. I predict UCLA to go all the way because they have experience. I think the four seniors will get Stella Sampras her first NCAA team title as the coach.

P.S. Stella Sampras may have been able to win a title earlier. Someone else told me a couple years ago she shipped out a few starting players with bad attitudes. A title this year would be like a reward for her choosing to stick to her principles over winning at any cost. I admire someone who would rather lose a possible championship, then lose their principles.:worship:

desariofan
May 19th, 2008, 09:14 PM
UCLA looks really good to win now. up 3-2 at this point with #2 singles and # 5 singles left to go.

tennis_pIayer
May 19th, 2008, 09:20 PM
Listen desario fan,
if UCLA wins it'll because they are the BETTER team than Florida. I don't like ucla. they beat my USC trojans 3x this year but the Pac10 is by far the best conference, much better than SEC or ACC in outdoor tennis.
Gouchi,
Stella sampras didn't just ship "a few good players" She shipped out Megan bradley, who goes on to be a dominant #1 for Miami, Daniela Bercek and Jackie Carleton, who both went onto Duke, and were ranked in the top 10, top 20. That takes guts. I have to hand it to her, she always gets her team ready for the NCAA. USC has the better teams in the past (not this year) but ucla often beats them and gets farther in the tournaments.

desariofan
May 19th, 2008, 09:23 PM
Listen desario fan,
if UCLA wins it'll because they are the BETTER team than Florida. I don't like ucla. they beat my USC trojans 3x this year but the Pac10 is by far the best conference, much better than SEC or ACC in outdoor tennis.
Gouchi,
Stella sampras didn't just ship "a few good players" She shipped out Megan bradley, who goes on to be a dominant #1 for Miami, Daniela Bercek and Jackie Carleton, who both went onto Duke, and were ranked in the top 10, top 20. That takes guts. I have to hand it to her, she always gets her team ready for the NCAA. USC has the better teams in the past (not this year) but ucla often beats them and gets farther in the tournaments.

aint nothing here to take it personal, pal. take a chill pill before you tell someone to "listen"

desariofan
May 19th, 2008, 09:26 PM
it looks like boonstra will lose the 3rd set to lumpkin at this point --- to win it 4-2. i would hate it if it came down to #2 borsanyi vs Lin. she lost it for FL last year, too. Wonder if it'd make a difference if diana were to be healthy and played. she isn't being reshirted, either. she is done with tennis.

UCLA wins ncaa 2008

Tennisace
May 19th, 2008, 09:34 PM
Listen desario fan,
if UCLA wins it'll because they are the BETTER team than Florida. I don't like ucla. they beat my USC trojans 3x this year but the Pac10 is by far the best conference, much better than SEC or ACC in outdoor tennis.
Gouchi,
Stella sampras didn't just ship "a few good players" She shipped out Megan bradley, who goes on to be a dominant #1 for Miami, Daniela Bercek and Jackie Carleton, who both went onto Duke, and were ranked in the top 10, top 20. That takes guts. I have to hand it to her, she always gets her team ready for the NCAA. USC has the better teams in the past (not this year) but ucla often beats them and gets farther in the tournaments.

There was also Feriel Essenghier who went to Northwestern. I've read the other side of the story and I wouldn't necessarily say they had bad attitudes. The only people that know the story were those girls and Stella Sampras.

USC had tons of promise although the injury to Nelson and Fansler going MIA really hurt them. It is dissapointing but you have to remember they are a very young team and although Ramos is no Nelson (that we know of yet) she's very talented and should be at No. 2/3 in the line-up next year.

Although some teams like to do the two recruits per year, it's almost as if teams are building toward a three-four recruits per year that way you have a very seasoned team come senior year (good examples are UCLA, Cal and USC in a couple years). That is of course if you can get that many good recruits and have them all peak at the right time.

Tennisace
May 19th, 2008, 09:41 PM
it looks like boonstra will lose the 3rd set to lumpkin at this point --- to win it 4-2. i would hate it if it came down to #2 borsanyi vs Lin. she lost it for FL last year, too. Wonder if it'd make a difference if diana were to be healthy and played. she isn't being reshirted, either. she is done with tennis.

UCLA wins ncaa 2008

That's the crazy part to think about what if Florida had Srebovic. She would play No. 1/2 and then everyone moves down plus add her to doubles. That would be sick. Unfortunately for Florida that wasn't the case.

In terms of Pac-10 love, I think they get overlooked a lot compared to the East Coast teams. I gave a reasoning why in another thread (thanks in part to ranking as a result of the proximity of other highly ranked teams compared to the East Coast. The East Coast teams are closer distance which allows for easy scheduling of top teams) but year after year they show everyone at NCAA.

Coming up, Pac-10 grudge match. The rubber match for the NCAA. Granted Cal beat UCLA when UCLA was not at full strength, but then again when UCLA won it was 4-3 victory. Should be excellent. Go Bears!

tennis_pIayer
May 19th, 2008, 09:46 PM
Pac10 showdown Cal vs UCLA. congratulations. Just like i predicted, pac10 schools in the finals! once again, pac10 shows all the other conferences to be pure pretenders.
I'm cheering for Cal more. it's a good story for both schools, as they have large contingency of seniors graduating. good for them.
Tennis ace, congrats to your team. I'm disappointed in fansler. She had such a good freshman year and this year she's bellow 500! i dont know. plus maria sanchez and leyla both have good games but need to develop them more. sanchez could be a #2/3 player for SC. leyla could hold down #6 even better if she just went for her groundstrokes once in a while.

tennis_pIayer
May 19th, 2008, 09:48 PM
Cal would've been unbeatable if they had kept henkel btw. she would be #2 and cossou #3. that's crazy. she was a semifinalist at USO btw.
UCLA wins doubles
#1- Cal wins, babos vs zalaeda not a good matchup for ucla if babos is playing well.
#2- Cal Cossu is too consistent and fast for lin
#3- Schnack: she lost to alexander b/c she got hit off the court. viscio will not d othat. UCLA
#4- tossup. can't predict
#5- tossup. but i'm gonna go with lumpkin as kusano confidence just aint there.
#6 bosubic over mcgoodwin easily.
so it'll boil down to the matchups at 4 and 5. i see ucla winning only if the get both. if cal wins one of them they'll be the champs.

Tennisace
May 19th, 2008, 10:52 PM
Here are the results from the two times Cal and UCLA played this year:

No. 8 California 4, No. 11 UCLA 3
Mar. 1, 2008 | Los Angeles Tennis Center | Los Angeles
Doubles
1. No. 30 Lin/Zalameda (UCLA) def. No. 53 Babos/Kusano (CAL) 8-5
2. No. 49 Lumpkin/Wetmore (UCLA) def. Cossou/Ilcinkas (CAL) 8-0
3. Joelson/Schnack (UCLA) def. Bobusic/Dillon (CAL) 8-2
Order of finish: 2, 3*, 1 (UCLA wins doubles point)
Singles
1. No. 10 Riza Zalameda (UCLA) def. No. 7 Susie Babos (CAL) 6-4, 2-6, 6-4
2. No. 52 Marina Cossou (CAL) def. Tracy Lin (UCLA) 6-4, 2-6, 6-1
3. No. 41 Cristina Visico (CAL) def. No. 27 Andrea Remynse (UCLA) 1-6, 6-2, 7-6(2)
4. No. 83 Claire Ilcinkas (CAL) def. Ashley Joelson (UCLA) 6-3, 6-1
5. Elizabeth Lumpkin (UCLA) def. No. 87 Bojana Bobusic (CAL) 6-2, 6-3
6. Stephanie Kusano (CAL) def. Anna-Viktoria Lind (UCLA) 6-1, 6-3
Order of Finish: 4, 6, 5, 2, 1, 3*


No. 9 UCLA 4, No. 6 California 3
Apr. 4, 2008 | Hellman Tennis Complex | Berkeley, Calif.
Doubles
1. No. 20 Babos/Kusano (CAL) def. No. 9 Lin/Zalameda (UCLA) 8-6
2. Cossou/Ilcinkas (CAL) def. No. 59 Lumpkin/Wetmore (UCLA) 8-4
3. Joelson/McGoodwin (UCLA) def. Moore/Visico (CAL) 8-1
Order of finish: 3, 2, 1* (California wins doubles point)
Singles
1. No. 16 Susie Babos (CAL) def. No. 11 Riza Zalameda (UCLA) 3-6, 6-2, 7-6(4)
2. No. 12 Marina Cossou (CAL) def. No. 43 Tracy Lin (UCLA) 6-4, 6-2
3. No. 48 Yasmin Schnack (UCLA) def. No. 34 Cristina Visico (CAL) 6-3, 6-4
4. No. 52 Andrea Remynse (UCLA) def. No. 91 Claire Ilcinkas (CAL) 3-6, 7-6(10), 6-3
5. Ashley Joelson (UCLA) def. Stephanie Kusano (CAL) 1-6, 6-4, 6-4
6. No. 92 Elizabeth Lumpkin (UCLA) def. No. 102 Bojana Bobusic (CAL) 7-5, 6-4
Order of finish: 2, 3, 6, 1, 5, 4*

gouci
May 20th, 2008, 03:02 AM
Listen desario fan,
if UCLA wins it'll because they are the BETTER team than Florida. I don't like ucla. they beat my USC trojans 3x this year but the Pac10 is by far the best conference, much better than SEC or ACC in outdoor tennis.
Gouchi,
Stella sampras didn't just ship "a few good players" She shipped out Megan bradley, who goes on to be a dominant #1 for Miami, Daniela Bercek and Jackie Carleton, who both went onto Duke, and were ranked in the top 10, top 20. That takes guts. I have to hand it to her, she always gets her team ready for the NCAA. USC has the better teams in the past (not this year) but ucla often beats them and gets farther in the tournaments.

Listen tennis_pIayer, you're killing my name! :eek:

It's "Go UCI," my team is UC Irvine.

Gouchi? ...You made me sound like a designer bag! :lol:

Tennisace
May 20th, 2008, 02:05 PM
I think it's UCLA's to lose. They have better doubles and I think they're favored on courts No. 1, 3, and 5 in singles. No. 3 and No. 5 are locks and I think Zalameda is playing better tennis than Babos. At No. 3 doubles it'll be interesting in that it will be a new UCLA No. 3 team vs. a new Cal No. 3 team although the UCLA team is still better than the Cal No. 3. The other two doubles match-up will play each other for the third time. It looks like Cal has a lock at No. 2 and No. 6.

No. 4 will be a very important match. Since Ilckinas' semifinal run at the Pac-10 tournament, she's been very on. I think she's playing better tennis (with more confidence) than the last time she played Remynse. Interestingly enough, they are both undefeated in NCAA play and Cal needs this in order to win the NCAA championships.

It'll be very interesting to see how experience plays a role in this match. Obviously UCLA got to the finals last year and their entire team save for Remynse has been in this situation. While Cal, didn't reach the finals last year it's semifinal run will be important but I wonder if they will have enough experience to win.

I kind of feel like Cal has great momentum but like I predicted from the very beginning I'm going with UCLA 4-3.

gouci
May 20th, 2008, 06:27 PM
No. 3 singles a lock for UCLA? The scoreboard prediction disagrees with you. It says 6-2,6-1 for Visico. :lol:

Quick look before the match starts. http://tulsahurricane.cstv.com/livestats/m-tennis/TulsaTennis.html

tucker1989
May 21st, 2008, 12:56 AM
UCLA takes its first title 4-0 over Cal with victories from #'s 1 and 3 doubles and 1, 4, and 6 singles.

I was watching on ESPNU, and I was very impressed with the resolve of the UCLA team. Riza Zalameda has been so instrumental to UCLA's success, and it was fantastic to see her get wins in singles and doubles today, playing very, very well. Andrea Remynse also left a lasting impression, showing tremendous composure to win a tight first set tiebreak and then get the win after a slight choke at the end. Finally, Alex McGoodwin totally redeemed herself for her disappointing performance last year in the final in singles. She was in control from the get-go, and she played as well as I have ever seen her play.

Now to the bad, Babos really just fell apart at #1 in the second and third sets. Granted, Riza was playing great tennis, but I expected Susie to be a little more fired up and to make the contest a little closer. Also disappointing were both players in the #5 singles match. Both Lumpkin and Kusano have to be among the most annoying personalities that I've seen in NCAA women's tennis, arguing with calls and yelling basically every game. Kusano played superb tennis to come back in the second, but she was definitely aided by Lumpkin's complete collapse.

Overall, the match was closer than the score indicates. I think that Cal definitely would have gotten the win at #2, as Cossou is just stronger than Lin in tight moments. #3 was up for grabs, and, although I would bet against another Lumpkin choke, #5 was also up in the air. Congrats to UCLA, a well deserved title!

Tennisace
May 21st, 2008, 01:26 AM
The sad part for both teams is next year is definitely a rebuilding year and either will have a tough time making quarters/semis of NCAAs. Schnack and Remynse will go from playing No. 3/4 to most likely No. 1/2. I imagine Nina Pantic will put in the No. 3 spot followed by Joelson at No. 4, and incoming freshman Alexandria Walters at No. 5.

Cal is lucky it picked up Cossou this year as she will play No. 1 next year and has at least shown she can handle the top spot. I'm predicting No. 2 singles will go to freshman Mari Andersson followed by red shirt senior Marion Ravelojaona at No. 3. I think she'll keep Ilcinkas at No. 4 (or possibly swap her with Marion). Bobusic will move to No. 5 and incoming freshman Stephany Chang at No. 6.

That being said the Pac-10 won't be as strong as it has been in years past. Stanford had it's transition period this year although they will have a very young team next year (four returning starters but they're starting six will be 2 freshman, 2 sophomores, 1 junior, and 1 senior). It's USC's opportunity to take the Pac-10 reigns next year. They better hope the sophomore slump is not a new tradition (ie Fink and Fansler's sophomore slump) that Sanchez and Entekhabi pick up.

tennis_pIayer
May 21st, 2008, 02:55 AM
The sad part for both teams is next year is definitely a rebuilding year and either will have a tough time making quarters/semis of NCAAs. Schnack and Remynse will go from playing No. 3/4 to most likely No. 1/2. I imagine Nina Pantic will put in the No. 3 spot followed by Joelson at No. 4, and incoming freshman Alexandria Walters at No. 5.

Cal is lucky it picked up Cossou this year as she will play No. 1 next year and has at least shown she can handle the top spot. I'm predicting No. 2 singles will go to freshman Mari Andersson followed by red shirt senior Marion Ravelojaona at No. 3. I think she'll keep Ilcinkas at No. 4 (or possibly swap her with Marion). Bobusic will move to No. 5 and incoming freshman Stephany Chang at No. 6.

That being said the Pac-10 won't be as strong as it has been in years past. Stanford had it's transition period this year although they will have a very young team next year (four returning starters but they're starting six will be 2 freshman, 2 sophomores, 1 junior, and 1 senior). It's USC's opportunity to take the Pac-10 reigns next year. They better hope the sophomore slump is not a new tradition (ie Fink and Fansler's sophomore slump) that Sanchez and Entekhabi pick up.
USC really should've won the pac-10 last year when they had Nelson, fansler, Fink, Diane Matias, AncaAnastasiu and Judy Devera. That was a really good team but of course they couldn't manage to beat stanford, ucla, and even lost to a very mediocre miami team at 1-3 singles.
Next year, i def see ucla/cal slipping. But i don't see usc taking the helms. The USC coach just isn't very good at developing players and improving their weaknesses. They keep the same game after 4 years and they most definitely don't play TOGETHER. stanford will probably gain their place again given they lose only durkin/deason/hodjic, all pretty noncontributory to success.
Congrats to UCLA

gouci
May 24th, 2008, 01:45 AM
Lumpkin nearly put the Bruins ahead 3-0 in the match just moments later at court No. 5, however she was overruled on a match point in the second set when she called Kusano's serve out. Kusano would end up rallying to take the set 7-5 and send it to a third.- from UCLA website

Talk about the worst time to get cheated, at match point. :eek: I'm glad to see the umpire overruled and justice was served with Kusano at least winning the set. :lol:

Congrats to Riza Zalameda who was named ITA National Senior Player of the Year. Keri Phebus is the only other UCLA player to earn the award, winning it in 1996.