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Russianboy
May 8th, 2008, 01:47 PM
:eek::eek:

:worship: dinara

2nd upset of the day!

Mauresmo, Kirilenko, Ivanovic and Schnyder were wathing this match :p

Hashim.
May 8th, 2008, 01:48 PM
:sobbing::bigcry:

damn it!!!

Justine:hug::(

Dinara:yeah:
a good win after ages :o :)

TheBoiledEgg
May 8th, 2008, 01:49 PM
Oafette :woohoo: ;) :)
well done Dinara !!!!!!! :banana:

she still had some Oafish moments near end :help:

jonny84
May 8th, 2008, 01:49 PM
Wow. Never really expected this to happen, especially as Safina is having a see-saw year, but good for her, should give her much needed confidence!

hingis44
May 8th, 2008, 01:49 PM
OMG!! I dont like much Dinara but today il love you Dinara:

Serena-rules-no1
May 8th, 2008, 01:49 PM
never in doubt, henin is finished

oleada
May 8th, 2008, 01:49 PM
Justine, wake the fuck up. Seriously.
Serena's going to be the top half finalist now (unless we get yet another upset) and I'm guessing we'll have a new RG champion.

Dave.
May 8th, 2008, 01:49 PM
:eek: Shocking. Terrible, Justine.

The Kaz
May 8th, 2008, 01:49 PM
HENIN!!!!!! :weirdo:

How could you lose to a scrub like Safina!!! :mad:

Thats it! Your out of my banner!

rockstar
May 8th, 2008, 01:49 PM
no bagel :sad:

dinara played really amazing tennis :yeah:
justine :o

Chunchun
May 8th, 2008, 01:50 PM
:worship: Congrats! No Justine-Serena QF :sad:
This match is weird :lol: Safina was 5-7 *0-2 down then she just let Henin to win 2 more games.
Dina should bagel her when she was *5-0 *40-15 :(

Elwin.
May 8th, 2008, 01:50 PM
Dinara :eek: :yeah: :banana:

Cp6uja
May 8th, 2008, 01:50 PM
No bagel :mad: Dinara have 4MPs at *5-0 :fiery:

Should Dinara Safina retire?









JuJu :sad: But claycourt season is boring if you play your best

Poova
May 8th, 2008, 01:50 PM
YOU'RE AMAZING DINARA!! :yeah:

Justine :rolls: :rolls: :rolls:

Nikkiri
May 8th, 2008, 01:50 PM
:spit: could have been another bagel for Henin.

Dinara :worship:

Keep the upsets coming except the last match please. :angel:

DownTheLine21
May 8th, 2008, 01:50 PM
Amazing victory. By avoiding the bagel, though, Justine misses direct entry into the Bagel Girls Exhibition Tournament.

Golovinjured.
May 8th, 2008, 01:50 PM
OH DEAR LORD!

Henin really is completely lost at the moment. Not a chance for Roland Garros IMO..

cocco80
May 8th, 2008, 01:50 PM
Dinara has all the shots but she's a choker and a nutcase.
I didn't see it coming. This is so strange.

Ana and Makiri were watching the match together, btw :)

Paneru
May 8th, 2008, 01:50 PM
:speakles: :eek: :bolt:

So Disrespectful
May 8th, 2008, 01:50 PM
AND 10....
9...
8.

Let the excuses begin! :aparty:

NeeemZ
May 8th, 2008, 01:50 PM
Dinara decided to make things interesting at the end.

3 Match Points for a last set bagel. Won the match on her 5th MP.

She lead in the first set as well 4-1.

AndreConrad
May 8th, 2008, 01:50 PM
Congrats Dinara, well deserved... Justin has to regreoup; I believe thare is a confidence issue.

CORIA01
May 8th, 2008, 01:50 PM
:kiss: WELL DONE DINARA
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH HENIN?:help:

ElusiveChanteuse
May 8th, 2008, 01:51 PM
Oh god.Justine should take a year break like Venus.:help:

Anyone has the clip after the MP?I'd like to see their reactions.;)

Anyway,congrats Dinara.:p

eck
May 8th, 2008, 01:51 PM
I'd rather Justine lose now because we all know that Serena would have pummeled Justine 0 and 0.

GrafMariaPetraK
May 8th, 2008, 01:51 PM
:sad::eek::bolt:

Serena-rules-no1
May 8th, 2008, 01:51 PM
was she afraid of being bamboozled by serena again?

OZTENNIS
May 8th, 2008, 01:51 PM
:o Justine
New Roland Garros Champion this year...(Serena Williams ;))

justine schnyder
May 8th, 2008, 01:51 PM
:sad: :sad: :Sad:
Justine is in such a bad slump :sad:

MaBaker
May 8th, 2008, 01:52 PM
Wtf Justine :confused::mad:

kfh_9118
May 8th, 2008, 01:52 PM
totally shocked with the result :eek:

but well done to Dinara :yeah:

Sir Stefwhit
May 8th, 2008, 01:52 PM
The mighty clay gods have fallen.

With Nadal losing yesterday for only the second time on clay in 105 matches; it's only fitting that Justine, the most dominate female player on clay, would suffer a similar fate. Both players are probably the odds favorite to repeat at Roland Garros this year and both players have shown some chinks in their once invincible armor. Nadal, unlike Justine though has had a great year and he currently sits on top of the tour with the most race points won so far. For Justine, her season started out promising when she won a title early in the year, but since then she's crumbled.

Coming off of last year, who would have thought that at this point in the year she would have been baggled two times; almost three. And what's more shocking is that Safina would come so close to taking her down 6-0.

Justine is a player that feeds off confidence, so if things aren't going well, their likely to spill into her next match. She's been having problems with her serve, making tons of double faults and her health hasn't been 100%. In addition to handling those things, it now seems as though her confidence is at an all time low.

She's built such a strong cushion on points, that she's not in danger of losing her top ranking anytime soon, but she's far from being viewed as the best player on tour this year. The only silver lining for her is that she'll come into the French Open with expectations for her at an all time low, but no one is counting her out just yet.

I'm sure Serena, Jankovic, Sharapova, and Kuznetsova are licking their chops at getting a chance to face the clay god- if she doesn't find a way to improve fast any of these players is likely to add to her woes.

Duramont
May 8th, 2008, 01:52 PM
Fantastic victory for Dinara! :bowdown: :banana: :drool:

She just hang in and never lost hope! :worship:


She even had 3 Mps to bagel Justine in third! :crazy:

svetaisthebest
May 8th, 2008, 01:52 PM
Congrats Dinara :yeah:
great win for her :worship:

Filippo-Nastya
May 8th, 2008, 01:53 PM
Great match from Dinara :yeah:
JH's form is really poor at the moment.

anon57
May 8th, 2008, 01:53 PM
Good match from Dinara, she started out the first set so well but her form dipped towards the end of the first set, when Justine started playing a bit better. Quite impressed that Safina was able to turn the match around after being down 7-5 2-0. As for Justine, I'm not sure what is going on with her but hopefully she'll be able to sort out her form and start playing better again.

Maharhar
May 8th, 2008, 01:53 PM
Can someone say what happened? All I know is that Henin's serve wasn't on. Was Dinara playing stellar tennis, or was this a meltdown on Henin's part?

Costanza
May 8th, 2008, 01:53 PM
Justine just bought breadstick from Safina bakery:lol:

Slutati
May 8th, 2008, 01:53 PM
This is really bad now. When do you think she'll lose the #1 ranking?
Anyways, good luck Makiri, this is a weird day, use it:kiss:

eck
May 8th, 2008, 01:54 PM
Stefwhit - Nadal's loss yesterday was forgivable.
He's played more matches (I think) than what he needed to if he wanted to win RG.

tim2502
May 8th, 2008, 01:54 PM
GJ!! Dinara

lilimi
May 8th, 2008, 01:54 PM
:banana: dinara :) hope you won't be too tired for next match. her game today was :hearts:

eck
May 8th, 2008, 01:55 PM
Can someone say what happened? All I know is that Henin's serve wasn't on. Was Dinara playing stellar tennis, or was this a meltdown on Henin's part?

To Safina's credit, she could have gone berserk like bro after leading 4-2 in first set, and then lose 7-5, and 2-0. She played a clean second set, 3 UEs?

G&R
May 8th, 2008, 01:55 PM
great result dinara!!!

cocco80
May 8th, 2008, 01:57 PM
Can someone say what happened? All I know is that Henin's serve wasn't on. Was Dinara playing stellar tennis, or was this a meltdown on Henin's part?

Dinara was amazing and in control of the match most of the time. She dared to play pretty agressive and highly risky game. It paid off.

bwahahahahaha
May 8th, 2008, 01:57 PM
:spit::spit::spit:

Justine :tape::help:

LudwigDvorak
May 8th, 2008, 01:57 PM
Dinara SAFINA - 9 wins
1) A.Mauresmo [4] - Paris indoors, 2005
2) M.Sharapova [1] - Moscow, 2005
3) K.Clijsters [2] - Rome, 2006
4) E.Dementieva [8] - Rome, 2006
5) S.Kuznetsova [10] - Rome, 2006
6) M.Sharapova [4] - Roland Garros, 2006
7) M.Hingis [7] - Gold Coast, 2007
8) A.Chakvetadze [6] - Moscow, 2007
9) Henin [1] - Berlin, 2008

5/9 top ten wins on clay. Safina still got it on clay at least.

I am SO proud of her. :sobbing: Great great stuff, girl. I hope her QF is good...that's all I want out of that.

Ntour
May 8th, 2008, 01:58 PM
I must say congrats to Dinara


Justine is becoming a joke though :haha:

I mean almost being bagelled again, i guess it really does put her losses to sharapova and serena in perspective, ifg safina can almost bagel her :o :o :o :help:

Ceze
May 8th, 2008, 01:58 PM
Omg what a win Dinara :worship: I hope she'll have a great red clay season :banana:
Juju :shrug: Well, at least she avoids the bagel in the last set :tape:

mon72
May 8th, 2008, 01:59 PM
wow! already the second surprise today!
Dina :worship:

frontier
May 8th, 2008, 01:59 PM
The road has been made easier for Serena,she has a chance of winning this event for the first time.

<Sven>
May 8th, 2008, 01:59 PM
Oh my f***ing god...
What is up with her? :confused:
Euhm, well, Congrats to Dinara, great win
But Justine really needs to get it together quickly now

дalex
May 8th, 2008, 02:00 PM
Great match for Dinara! She played great! :worship:
Justine, :unsure:

azinna
May 8th, 2008, 02:00 PM
Well.

ViennaCalling
May 8th, 2008, 02:01 PM
:spit: OMG, i didn´t expect THIS. Losing to Safina :tape: :help:

Billabong
May 8th, 2008, 02:01 PM
Wowww definitely didn't expect this, Dinara:yeah:
But... what the hell is happening to Henin, she already has as many losses as last year lolll;)! Nadal and Henin losing back to back, who would have expected that:p?

Dementinator
May 8th, 2008, 02:01 PM
very bad loss indeed for the supposed queen of clay.

mon72
May 8th, 2008, 02:01 PM
after Alona defeated Sveta, and Dina defeated Justine, it would be really funny if Aga defeated Serena too :)I am really looking forward to their match.

Wayn77
May 8th, 2008, 02:03 PM
Well, well, well, well ... :eek:

Just watched this ... Safina played brilliantly. The girl got talent when she puts it together aggressively.

Justine looked rusty, served like a drain - needs more matches. Henin will be ready for RG.

xieergai
May 8th, 2008, 02:03 PM
Dinara
a good win !

Kampi
May 8th, 2008, 02:03 PM
I'm really sad now.:sad: This season is really a difficult one for Justine. After last season's endless glory, this all is hard to take. I think she was aware that another 2007 maybe won't happen again. But now is the time to seriously consider. It is a test of will. Anyway, congrats to Dinara. Really a great performance and in the end it was of course well deserved.

Foot's Fingers
May 8th, 2008, 02:04 PM
Dinara :woohoo:

even was not able to close match and gave a bagel to the bitch still wondering win :woohoo:

Henin :ras:

Ntour
May 8th, 2008, 02:04 PM
Well, well, well, well ... :eek:

Just watched this ... Safina played brilliantly. The girl got talent when she puts it together aggressively.

Justine looked rusty, served like a drain - needs more matches. Henin will be ready for RG.

im not sure she will be, its been so long already i just don't see it getting any better until she gets her fucking head out of the clouds and back into tennis

Thkmra
May 8th, 2008, 02:04 PM
Safina :bigclap::clap2::banana::banana::rocker::woohoo:

I'm so proud of you!!! Maybe this will be the push you need to finally get your game back on track, and start living up to your potential! :yeah:

Justine, almost another bagel? :eek::tape::tape::o

And she was actually suppose to contend against Serena? :lol::tape::help:

Renalicious
May 8th, 2008, 02:04 PM
Well, Justine escaped the bagel...so kudos to her for that but what a really bad loss. Just :help: screaming all over it.

So much for Safina being in a big slump...beating the world #1 on her favorite surface :shrug:

hwanmig
May 8th, 2008, 02:06 PM
Justine almost got bagelled in that third set:o.

Lunaris
May 8th, 2008, 02:07 PM
Safina played well, her shots were deep, she was moving well. On the other hand Justine was too easily overpowered, did nothing on serve... and on red clay.
I for one ain't happy that Henin lost, not only because the Williams trolls will make the GM unbearable for a few days (once again), but also because Justine is one of the few top players that don't irritate me and one of the few female players whose game is really enjoyable to watch. Hopefully she can turn this so far disastrous season around.

cypher_88
May 8th, 2008, 02:08 PM
Justine :lol: :lol: you might as well miss RG cuz you ain't gonna win it with this form.

Thkmra
May 8th, 2008, 02:09 PM
AND 10....
9...
8.

Let the excuses begin! :aparty:

:lol::lol: *Oh, and they're coming!!!!:tape:

SAEKeithSerena
May 8th, 2008, 02:10 PM
this isn't a shock to me as i predicited almost the identical scoreline yesterday.

win this title Serena :) :) :)

looks like we will have a RG champion not in the name of Justine this year:)

Jasmin
May 8th, 2008, 02:15 PM
Wow, there's upsets everywhere....men and women.

I think Justine's mindset is on the future already.

cypher_88
May 8th, 2008, 02:15 PM
this isn't a shock to me as i predicited almost the identical scoreline yesterday.

win this title Serena :) :) :)

looks like we will have a RG champion not in the name of Justine this year:)

and with Heaven's help it won't be someone who has won it already.:hearts:

SAEKeithSerena
May 8th, 2008, 02:18 PM
and with Heaven's help it won't be someone who has won it already.:hearts:
you are in denial. we'll see:kiss::wavey:

pigmalion
May 8th, 2008, 02:20 PM
WTF :confused::confused:
God never expected this result, what a suprise.

I'm speechless, against Schiavone well it can happen but to lose against someone like Safina, that's low.

Thanks god she didn't play Serena, coz she is really out of shape:tape:

whyme225
May 8th, 2008, 02:21 PM
Congrats Dinara, well deserved... Justin has to regreoup; I believe thare is a confidence issue.

Serena knocked all her confidence away.

So Disrespectful
May 8th, 2008, 02:21 PM
:lol::lol: *Oh, and they're coming!!!!:tape:

Oops! This isn't MTF, is it?

Matt01
May 8th, 2008, 02:21 PM
She played a clean second set, 3 UEs?


4 UEs, I think. And something like 17 winners. Safina played really well.

Slumpsova
May 8th, 2008, 02:22 PM
Berlin 2008: Serema Williams :D

whyme225
May 8th, 2008, 02:24 PM
:o Justine
New Roland Garros Champion this year...(Serena Williams ;))

I hate when posters do stuff like this. Stop counting your chickens before they hatch. Anything can happen and we as Serena fans should just pray that she stays healthy instead of claiming she's going to win a tournament that has not even began yet.

*Jean*
May 8th, 2008, 02:25 PM
Wow amazing stuff :D

whyme225
May 8th, 2008, 02:26 PM
The mighty clay gods have fallen.

With Nadal losing yesterday for only the second time on clay in 105 matches; it's only fitting that Justine, the most dominate female player on clay, would suffer a similar fate. Both players are probably the odds favorite to repeat at Roland Garros this year and both players have shown some chinks in their once invincible armor. Nadal, unlike Justine though has had a great year and he currently sits on top of the tour with the most race points won so far. For Justine, her season started out promising when she won a title early in the year, but since then she's crumbled.

Coming off of last year, who would have thought that at this point in the year she would have been baggled two times; almost three. And what's more shocking is that Safina would come so close to taking her down 6-0.

Justine is a player that feeds off confidence, so if things aren't going well, their likely to spill into her next match. She's been having problems with her serve, making tons of double faults and her health hasn't been 100%. In addition to handling those things, it now seems as though her confidence is at an all time low.

She's built such a strong cushion on points, that she's not in danger of losing her top ranking anytime soon, but she's far from being viewed as the best player on tour this year. The only silver lining for her is that she'll come into the French Open with expectations for her at an all time low, but no one is counting her out just yet.

I'm sure Serena, Jankovic, Sharapova, and Kuznetsova are licking their chops at getting a chance to face the clay god- if she doesn't find a way to improve fast any of these players is likely to add to her woes.


Did you see the bruises on the botto of Nadal's feet yesterday. There was no way he could have won that match at least he tried and did not retire like Novak the joke.

Maria Croft
May 8th, 2008, 02:29 PM
Wow, I guess it's really a slump now, so strange after her 2007 season.

Jasmin
May 8th, 2008, 02:32 PM
I don't think Serena's licking her chops like maybe the others. I think she will always feel like she can beat Justine. Whether she wins or not is another story.

Sir Stefwhit
May 8th, 2008, 02:38 PM
Did you see the bruises on the botto of Nadal's feet yesterday. There was no way he could have won that match at least he tried and did not retire like Novak the joke.

Really! I changed the channel after he got down a break in the second set and I avoided MTF and all men's tennis altogether, so no, I missed that. You've suddenly made me feel a lot better; of course he was injured, that explains it... :angel:

Seriously though, even without the injury this loss for Justine is a lot more serious for her than it is for Nadal (assuming those blister will heal quickly). It's making this years clay season uber-interesant!! Who'd of guessed that Serena and Sharapova would be leading the tour on clay...

I'm hoping this only pumps Serena that much more and she takes full advantage.

The Kaz
May 8th, 2008, 02:39 PM
I hate when posters do stuff like this. Stop counting your chickens before they hatch. Anything can happen and we as Serena fans should just pray that she stays healthy instead of claiming she's going to win a tournament that has not even began yet.

An intellegent, analytical and understanding Serena fan :eek:

I never thought id ever see one :o

Whyme225 :yeah:

Sir Stefwhit
May 8th, 2008, 02:41 PM
I don't think Serena's licking her chops like maybe the others. I think she will always feel like she can beat Justine. Whether she wins or not is another story.
I think you're right. Serena is crazy in the sense that she'd rather Justine be playing at her absolute best. I think it's more satisfying for her to take down someone who stands tall and mighty.

2moretogo
May 8th, 2008, 02:46 PM
DINA!!!! So happy! Guess that week in Germany practicing as Marat played was good for you!!! Does anyone know if Mama Rausa was there?

So unexpected... way to go!!!

RenaSlam.
May 8th, 2008, 02:47 PM
:worship:

Blu€
May 8th, 2008, 02:48 PM
Yayyyyyyy Dinaraaaa:bounce::bounce::woohoo::woohoo:
If you played like this more often :awww:

HenryMag.
May 8th, 2008, 03:20 PM
:eek:

Congrats Dinara

starin
May 8th, 2008, 03:22 PM
Really! I changed the channel after he got down a break in the second set and I avoided MTF and all men's tennis altogether, so no, I missed that. You've suddenly made me feel a lot better; of course he was injured, that explains it... :angel:

Seriously though, even without the injury this loss for Justine is a lot more serious for her than it is for Nadal (assuming those blister will heal quickly). It's making this years clay season uber-interesant!! Who'd of guessed that Serena and Sharapova would be leading the tour on clay...

I'm hoping this only pumps Serena that much more and she takes full advantage.

:rolleyes: I don't pay that much attention to men's tennis but I swear every single time Nadal has a big loss he's injured. That fool has so many excused but I don't hear anyone complaining that he doesn't give credit to his opponents even though he happens to be injured after every bad loss he has.


:eek: at this result. How did Justine lose 61 in the 3rd set. That's the weirdest thing. I guess Safina is good on clay but still even at like 50% I still expect Justine to get through. very shocking stuff i'm guessing Safina played very well today. G'luck Serena :scared:

Spiritof42
May 8th, 2008, 03:25 PM
:eek:

So Safina, who had never won a set against Henin in their 5 previous meetings according to the WTA web site, no only beats her for the first time, but comes very close to handing her a bagel in the 3rd set? On clay? Pure madness!

Congrats to the Russian on a well-deserved win. :yeah:

Destiny
May 8th, 2008, 03:35 PM
ZOMG

could not believe this when i saw this

nooooooooooooooo i didn't want this i don't want this

Justine needs to get to her best so Serena can beat her :devil:

I so shocked Justine lost was it on purpose ????
:hug:

harloo
May 8th, 2008, 03:35 PM
I don't like Henin but all this gloom and doom talk is nothing but exaggeration. All top players have a moment where their career slows down, the wins don't come as easily as they did in the past. This has happened to all great champions but they always have a way of getting back into top form and playing excellent tennis again.

Everything is falling apart in Justine's game at the moment but I think she'll regroup at some point. Sometimes I really think fans expect these women to be perfect on court. It's not possible for any player to maintain a high level for years on end. At some point their will be slumps, disappointments, injuries, and moments where confidence is lacking.

With that said, Great win for Dinara!!

Emina.
May 8th, 2008, 03:37 PM
omg juju:o:rolleyes:

DragonFlame
May 8th, 2008, 03:38 PM
OMFG!:o


pathetic, really. That's just inacceptable.:(

Lindsayfanumber1
May 8th, 2008, 03:39 PM
:eek:

Olórin
May 8th, 2008, 03:39 PM
Get it together Justine :shrug:

Is she playing Rome?

Optima
May 8th, 2008, 03:40 PM
Agree with harloo - Serena, Venus, Maria - they have all had awful slumps in the past before. Justine needs to take an extended break, clear her mind, and think about why she plays tennis. I hope she skips everything else and plays Roland Garros. That being said, well done Dinara, I did not expect this at all. Well deserved.

Mina Vagante
May 8th, 2008, 03:44 PM
Justine :tape:

She needs a break

Mina Vagante
May 8th, 2008, 03:45 PM
OMFG!:o


pathetic, really. That's just inacceptable.:(

*un :)

treufreund
May 8th, 2008, 03:48 PM
Nope. Justine does NOT need a break! she needs to play MORE matches not just go away and "think" about her game LOL.

Kim's_fan_4ever
May 8th, 2008, 03:49 PM
Dinara you choker :hearts: After this match, I can't be your hater anymore, I can't hate on a player who plays such an awesome tennis :worship:
But more seriously. Henin was pathetic from the start till the end, only when she got back in the first set she was playing on her normal level, other than that it was her 20% :tape: Her serve was miserable as never :tape:
But Dinara was brilliant :hearts: I hope she repeats that match against Serena :yeah:

Bероника
May 8th, 2008, 03:50 PM
Dinara :worship:at least some good news today.Now if only you could find a way not to lose your next match ;)

Adaora
May 8th, 2008, 03:51 PM
Deep down inside, Justine just doesn't wanna face Serena soon again.

goldenlox
May 8th, 2008, 03:52 PM
The last 3 years Justine lost in Berlin to Nadia, Sveta and Dinara.
I saw this with Sharapova last year. An injury can totally screw up your year.
For Justine, she still has time to make this a good year.

bellascarlett
May 8th, 2008, 03:56 PM
WOAH!!

Justine!! :weirdo: Where the hell are you?

This is bad...gotta get up and try harder Justine. Where has all her fighting spirit gone? Losing in the third and getting fed a breadstick by headcase Safina?! :o

Is Justine playing Rome? Coz I think she should...seems she's forgotten how to play. Unless she is injured of course.

AnnaK_4ever
May 8th, 2008, 04:00 PM
Even though I dislike Safina I have to admit she played superbly throughout almost the whole match. If it hadn't been for her brainfarting she would have won in straights or at least bagelled Henin in the third set -- that DF at 5-0 40-15 -- :tape:

kwilliams
May 8th, 2008, 04:03 PM
I had a feeling this might happen at the start of the second set. The only thing I would say is that although Henin is undoubtedly in a slump she is still a champion and if anyone can pull it back in time for RG, she can. I would hate for this to happen but it is possible, you can never count her out on red clay, especially in Paris. However if she repeats a performance like this in Rome next week then it is really, really unlikely. She will have to make at least the semis next week to actually get some decent match play before RG. She needs to get her confidence back.

AcesHigh
May 8th, 2008, 04:04 PM
Henin, WAKE UP!! :( I don't think any true tennis fan wants to see her playing like this.

Congrats to Safina though. Maybe this year she'll be on her way to realizing her talent, because there's a lot there.

missvarsha
May 8th, 2008, 04:07 PM
She needs to get her confidence back

Confidence and motivation. I was really hoping we would start to see the turnaround in Charleston, but she declined to play and then another early flameout. Not much time left before the French now..

Demska
May 8th, 2008, 04:14 PM
OMGGGG DINARA :rocker: :rocker:

i check the score on my mobile when walking home and almost drop it down the drain when i found out :spit:

Dexter
May 8th, 2008, 04:15 PM
Okay, that's official... Justine's in a serious slump. :o

Mightymirza
May 8th, 2008, 04:17 PM
YEah justine :help: Congrats to safina

DA FOREHAND
May 8th, 2008, 04:18 PM
Good match from Dinara, she started out the first set so well but her form dipped towards the end of the first set, when Justine started playing a bit better. Quite impressed that Safina was able to turn the match around after being down 7-5 2-0. As for Justine, I'm not sure what is going on with her but hopefully she'll be able to sort out her form and start playing better again.

Dinara, Bartoli'd her LMBAO!!!:tape::lol::lol::bounce::worship:

Demska
May 8th, 2008, 04:20 PM
Okay, that's official... Justine's in a serious slump. :o

:weirdo:

hablo
May 8th, 2008, 04:24 PM
:eek::eek:

:worship: dinara

2nd upset of the day!

So proud of you, Safina!! What an upset! :bowdown:

Well done. :banana:

Mauresmo, Kirilenko, Ivanovic and Schnyder were wathing this match :p :devil:

StarDuvallGrant
May 8th, 2008, 04:36 PM
Great start to the morning. Awesome :clap2:

Harju.
May 8th, 2008, 04:37 PM
Congrats Dina :yippee:
She's dangerous on clay.

Ju :hug:
I think she'd bounce back, like all other great players (Serena, Maria, Vee)

RJWCapriati
May 8th, 2008, 04:38 PM
:speakles:

crazylace01
May 8th, 2008, 04:51 PM
dinara :eek:

Dodoboy.
May 8th, 2008, 04:59 PM
:haha:

I wish she won this match because Serena would have just physically DESTROYED her on court!

Why oh why :bigcry:

Oh well, i have never been more happy and sad at the same time. I really wanted to see Serena improve her h2h against JH on clay but w/e.

We will just have to wait till RG :devil:

Dodoboy.
May 8th, 2008, 05:05 PM
:eek::eek:

:worship: dinara

2nd upset of the day!

Mauresmo, Kirilenko, Ivanovic and Schnyder were wathing this match :p

There were all probably having an orgasm :lol:

homogenius
May 8th, 2008, 05:05 PM
:o

Princeza
May 8th, 2008, 05:19 PM
At least clay season will seem more interesting.

LindsayRulz
May 8th, 2008, 05:20 PM
Wow :eek::speakles:

morningglory
May 8th, 2008, 05:38 PM
DAMN I wanted Serena to thrash her so baaaad :mad:

xr6turbo
May 8th, 2008, 05:42 PM
geez. :unsure:

roxi
May 8th, 2008, 05:42 PM
:o:o:o:o

Mileen
May 8th, 2008, 05:44 PM
Very well done Dinara! :kiss: :worship:
Ju, please lose in Rome and RG again, so you'll get hungry to win again.

G1Player2
May 8th, 2008, 05:45 PM
:lol:

Denise4925
May 8th, 2008, 05:45 PM
:eek: :eek: :lol: Congrats Dinara. :lol: Wow!! What the hell happened??

young_gunner913
May 8th, 2008, 05:48 PM
Justine :haha:

Rocketta
May 8th, 2008, 05:57 PM
so has Justine said she has an injury? Is this just a random slump or is she hurt and trying to play through it.

miss molly
May 8th, 2008, 06:02 PM
Justine:sad: What is happening to you?:sad: I hope she'll find her form again.

Denise4925
May 8th, 2008, 06:03 PM
AND 10....
9...
8.

Let the excuses begin! :aparty:

:lol::tape: OMG she almost got bagelled again. :rolls:

Denise4925
May 8th, 2008, 06:05 PM
I'd rather Justine lose now because we all know that Serena would have pummeled Justine 0 and 0.

Yes, and I was so looking forward to another QF revenge for Serena. Oh well, maybe they will meet in the quarters of RG. :devil:

Denise4925
May 8th, 2008, 06:11 PM
Well.

:lol:

goldenboi356
May 8th, 2008, 06:12 PM
justine what has happened to you?? are you saving energy for the RG Wimbledon double, having an injury, or what? No matter, you still have my belief in you!!!!

cn ireland
May 8th, 2008, 06:13 PM
Wow brilliant result!!! Definitely didn't expect it. I'm not exactly a Safina fan but for beating Justine on clay I admire her. Great result for tennis!!!

vejh
May 8th, 2008, 06:15 PM
She stated specifically that it is not a physical problem or a tennis problem but she doesn't have enough courage to be aggressive on court. She said she is lacking confidence.

Denise4925
May 8th, 2008, 06:15 PM
Safina played well, her shots were deep, she was moving well. On the other hand Justine was too easily overpowered, did nothing on serve... and on red clay.
I for one ain't happy that Henin lost, not only because the Williams trolls will make the GM unbearable for a few days (once again), but also because Justine is one of the few top players that don't irritate me and one of the few female players whose game is really enjoyable to watch. Hopefully she can turn this so far disastrous season around.

:o :haha: I can't stop laughing. :lol:

mirzalover
May 8th, 2008, 06:18 PM
I'm so happy!

cardio
May 8th, 2008, 06:19 PM
video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-KPL0uR4hqM
and same file in better quality
http://rapidshare.com/files/113489631/safina_vs_henin.avi.html

Denise4925
May 8th, 2008, 06:20 PM
I think you're right. Serena is crazy in the sense that she'd rather Justine be playing at her absolute best. I think it's more satisfying for her to take down someone who stands tall and mighty.

I feel that way too. The win is somehow sweeter. I feel the same and really hate to see that Justine is not going to play Serena in the quarters. I wanted Serena to have another QF revenge on Justine. But, oh well. Maybe RG. I do hope Justine gets her shit together, so there will be no excuses at the next showdown between them.

Denise4925
May 8th, 2008, 06:23 PM
:eek: at this result. How did Justine lose 61 in the 3rd set. That's the weirdest thing. I guess Safina is good on clay but still even at like 50% I still expect Justine to get through. very shocking stuff i'm guessing Safina played very well today. G'luck Serena :scared:

Yeah, this is Justine's favorite and best surface. How does she not pull out a win by will alone? It's her best surface, she's the No. 1 player and she leads a set and a break in the second set. WTF happened?? :eek: Even if she was at 50% of her best, she still should have won this.

G1Player2
May 8th, 2008, 06:23 PM
I feel that way too. The win is somehow sweeter. I feel the same and really hate to see that Justine is not going to play Serena in the quarters. I wanted Serena to have another QF revenge on Justine. But, oh well. Maybe RG. I do hope Justine gets her shit together, so there will be no excuses at the next showdown between them.

Doesn't matter to me a win is a win. Who knows, no matter what condition JH is in, we know she is capable of doing other things, even when she is healthy and playing great like in 2003. :rolleyes:

I aslo don't care because the JH fans were gloating beyond belief when Serena was clearly injured at Wimbledon which took her out for the entire summer going into the US Open.

hablo
May 8th, 2008, 06:28 PM
Can someone upload this match ? Please ? :awww:

Denise4925
May 8th, 2008, 06:31 PM
She stated specifically that it is not a physical problem or a tennis problem but she doesn't have enough courage to be aggressive on court. She said she is lacking confidence.

:weirdo: What the hell does that mean? She's the No. 1 player. It's her best service. What is she afraid of?

gmak
May 8th, 2008, 06:31 PM
dinara :yeah: :D :) :woohoo: :drool: :devil:
FANTASTIC!!!

Denise4925
May 8th, 2008, 06:36 PM
I aslo don't care because the JH fans were gloating beyond belief when Serena was clearly injured at Wimbledon which took her out for the entire summer going into the US Open.

You're right about that. No excuses. Just like they said, if you're out there, you're ready to play.

Demska
May 8th, 2008, 06:42 PM
OMG Dinara at 40/15 at *5-0 :rolls:

G1Player2
May 8th, 2008, 06:45 PM
OMG Dinara at 40/15 at *5-0 :rolls:

How does it feel Dumbska? Just getting off of suspension, Serena wins, and then Justine loses. I'd hate to be you now. :lol:

Expat
May 8th, 2008, 06:48 PM
How does it feel Dumbska? Just getting off of suspension, Serena wins, and then Justine loses. I'd hate to be you now. :lol:
i dont think he likes justine
he just wants serena to lose

hablo
May 8th, 2008, 06:52 PM
http://www.lalibre.be/sports/tennis/article/420053/la-galere-continue-pour-justine.html

"Je vais maintenant prendre quelques jours de repos, avant d'aller à Rome. Cette semaine était importante pour moi en termes de confiance, je préférerais arriver à Roland Garros en ayant joué plus de matches sur terre battue", a reconnu Henin, vainqueur des trois dernières éditions de Roland Garros.

Looks like JH will be playing in Rome.

Denise4925
May 8th, 2008, 06:54 PM
http://www.lalibre.be/sports/tennis/article/420053/la-galere-continue-pour-justine.html



Looks like JH will be playing in Rome.

Translation please, hablo. :)

starin
May 8th, 2008, 06:55 PM
http://www.lalibre.be/sports/tennis/article/420053/la-galere-continue-pour-justine.html



Looks like JH will be playing in Rome.

not surprised..seeing as there was no Warsaw this year and she did poorly at Berlin wouldn't be surprised to see Kuznetsova this year too and maybe Ivanovic. Looks like Rome will be pretty stacked.

Safina sounds really cute in her interview on WTAtour.com. Kind belies her appearance on court. Apparently her and Serena are friendly and Safina's coach and Serena's hitting partner are decorating partners or something ..lol..couldn't really make that out.

Expat
May 8th, 2008, 07:02 PM
Translation
"I shall now take a few days rest before going to Rome. This week was important for me in terms of getting back to confidence, I prefer to arrive at Roland Garros having played more matches on clay, "admitted Henin, winner of the last three titles in Roland Garros

hotandspicey
May 8th, 2008, 07:51 PM
Juju :haha: wtf?? Stay away from those hungry players whose name begins with S..Serena, Sharapova, Schiavone and now Safina. :eek: Nice tank job to aviod Serena. ;) :lol: j/k
Dinara :hatoff: :bounce: :woohoo:

VasVas
May 8th, 2008, 07:53 PM
impressive scoreline, well done Safina :hug:

Serenidad.
May 8th, 2008, 08:14 PM
Not a surprise. Dinara should have won this in straights. Horrible to let Henin extend you to three sets on clay. RETIRE DINARAAAAAAAAAAA.

Seriously though, Henin needs to have the surgery/procedure she was contemplating something is just not working. I'm glad she lost because with the way Serena is playing she would have gotten rocked mentally.

Denise4925
May 8th, 2008, 08:19 PM
Not a surprise. Dinara should have won this in straights. Horrible to let Henin extend you to three sets on clay. RETIRE DINARAAAAAAAAAAA.

Seriously though, Henin needs to have the surgery/procedure she was contemplating something is just not working. I'm glad she lost because with the way Serena is playing she would have gotten rocked mentally.

Damn!!! :(

hingisGOAT
May 8th, 2008, 08:25 PM
The reign of Henin is over, for better or worse. I think she's gotten every ounce of energy out of her tiny body. I don't see her situation improving very much from this point on :help: That being said I fully expect her to get it together by RG and be there during the second week, but I think we will see a new champion.

spartanfan
May 8th, 2008, 08:27 PM
She stated specifically that it is not a physical problem or a tennis problem but she doesn't have enough courage to be aggressive on court. She said she is lacking confidence.
To me that has always been Justine's biggest weakness, her mental strength. Even after all this time and all her success, she still lacks courage. But I suppose that's why she had to cheat Serena in 03 at the FO to win a match, because she lacks both courage and true character.

.:sk:.
May 8th, 2008, 08:28 PM
Dinara :banana: :worship: she played much more aggressive than Justine :yeah:

Denise4925
May 8th, 2008, 08:30 PM
To me that has always been Justine's biggest weakness, her mental strength. Even after all this time and all her success, she still lacks courage. But I suppose that's why she had to cheat Serena in 03 at the FO to win a match, because she lacks both courage and true character.

:worship::worship::worship::worship:
AMEN, AMEN, AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!! PREACH BROTHER!!!! :lol:

This is also why she cheated Amelie out of her Championship victory at the AO in '06.

Lapin
May 8th, 2008, 08:32 PM
:eek: Well done Dinara! :D (Have always had rather a soft spot for Dinara since an interview some years back when she was asked something along the lines of 'How do you cope with losses?' To which she replied: 'I eat some chocolate!' :lol: )


Mauresmo, Kirilenko, Ivanovic and Schnyder were watching this match :p


:devil:


:lol: That is the exact smilie that I had in mind for my post when I read about who was in the crowd! :p
:devil: too! ;)

Matt01
May 8th, 2008, 08:36 PM
To me that has always been Justine's biggest weakness, her mental strength. Even after all this time and all her success, she still lacks courage. But I suppose that's why she had to cheat Serena in 03 at the FO to win a match, because she lacks both courage and true character.


Shut up, troll.

Escape
May 8th, 2008, 08:38 PM
Dinara :banana: :banana: :banana:

spartanfan
May 8th, 2008, 08:39 PM
Shut up, troll.
Yo Mama's a troll you bitch!:(

njnetswill
May 8th, 2008, 08:59 PM
:eek: Of all the players to beat Henin on clay, DINARA?! :worship:

Denise4925
May 8th, 2008, 09:04 PM
Shut up, troll.

Why, because he speaks the truth?

Textor
May 8th, 2008, 09:10 PM
I do not understand exactly what is the main problem with Justine, but she lost sth from her game... It's just a feeling. I hope she works on her play, and find her form until RG.

Mrs. Peel
May 8th, 2008, 09:11 PM
lol @ Henin fans being sensitive after their digusting, hateful display of gloating last year at Serena's expense. :tape:
6-1 in the 3rd...wow. :tape:

Denise4925
May 8th, 2008, 09:13 PM
lol @ Henin fans being sensitive after their digusting, hateful display of gloating last year at Serena's expense. :tape:
6-1 in the 3rd...wow. :tape:

:yeah:

Zombielicious
May 8th, 2008, 09:21 PM
Davai Dina! :eek: :yeah:

Matt01
May 8th, 2008, 09:24 PM
Why, because he speaks the truth?


No, because he is speaking crap. Claiming that Justine is lacking mental toughness, and is lacking courage as a person because of what happened in 2003, is really beyond ridiculous.

Of course I know that you are incredibly happy that Justine lost today. As a supposed lawyer of your age one would think that you would be a bit more mature, but honestly, I've given up having hope for you years ago.

sweetpeas
May 8th, 2008, 09:26 PM
It"s just a pre clay warm up!Not the FRENCH OPEN.Lady Justine will prevail,that"s for sure!

Denise4925
May 8th, 2008, 09:36 PM
No, because he is speaking crap. Claiming that Justine is lacking mental toughness, and is lacking courage as a person because of what happened in 2003, is really beyond ridiculous.

Of course I know that you are incredibly happy that Justine lost today. As a supposed lawyer of your age one would think that you would be a bit more mature, but honestly, I've given up having hope for you years ago.

Why do you always have to get so personal??!! It doesn't hurt my feelings and all it does is make you look immature yourself. It also demonstrates your lack of ability to channel your frustrations, gather your thoughts and communicate why you disagree with the poster. :(

I really have mixed emotions about her loss today. :shrug: I'm happy on one hand, but on the other I wanted Serena to thrash her again in another QF for payback.

Justine said it herself that she lacked courage and that is why she couldn't beat Dinara today. Spartan pointed out that she also lacked courage and sportsmanship in the FO '03 semi against Serena and I pointed out her lack of courage and sportsmanship in the AO '06 final against Amelie. We forgot about the Miami '07 display when her so-called mental toughness failed her against Serena in the final.

This is Justine's achillies heel. She's always lacked mental toughness, which is why she would try whatever gamesmanship she could get away with to turn the match her way, instead of showing mental fortitude, digging her heels in and fighting it out. She truly lacks confidence in herself. This is what I dislike about Justine the most.

Pasta-Na
May 8th, 2008, 09:36 PM
i think serena will win this year FO.

Marionated
May 8th, 2008, 09:39 PM
This is great win for Dinara, especially when you consider all the beatdowns she's recieved from Henin.

Mileen
May 8th, 2008, 09:46 PM
Why, because he speaks the truth?

you're delusional if you think he is speaking the truth.
You all are pathetic to be so happy with so much hatred because Justine lost today. And abusing it to proof your delusional theories, the endless ridiculous statements and biases on this board, not to mention the shameless disgrace with which Justine is treated here on this forum. Just get a serious reality check.

winone23
May 8th, 2008, 09:59 PM
Wow......

Matt01
May 8th, 2008, 10:02 PM
I'm happy on one hand, but on the other I wanted Serena to thrash her again in another QF for payback.


And that's exactly what I meant to say in my post. A tremendous lack of maturity :shrug:
Thank you for proving me right.

I didn't write my post above to hurt your feelings or whatever. And I didn't insult you on a personal level at all :shrug:

Denise4925
May 8th, 2008, 10:03 PM
you're delusional if you think he is speaking the truth.
You all are pathetic to be so happy with so much hatred because Justine lost today. And abusing it to proof your delusional theories, the endless ridiculous statements and biases on this board, not to mention the shameless disgrace with which Justine is treated here on this forum. Just get a serious reality check.

:spit: :lol:

UDACHi
May 8th, 2008, 10:04 PM
amazing. :worship:
dinara has been in terrible form and suddenly beats henin on clay. :lol:
keep going now!

aznunit2k5
May 8th, 2008, 10:08 PM
Serena Migrates to the Quarters with no Henin in sight. :) *Raises hand* high fives Dinara...

Denise4925
May 8th, 2008, 10:11 PM
And that's exactly what I meant to say in my post. A tremendous lack of maturity :shrug:
Thank you for proving me right.

How is it a lack of maturity to feel happy she lost on one hand, because I don't want Serena to have to dispatch Justine on her favorite surface in order to get to the finals and on the other hand feel kind of sad that Serena will not have an opportunity to thrash her in a QF?

I didn't write my post above to hurt your feelings or whatever. And I didn't insult you on a personal level at all :shrug:

It didn't hurt my feelings. :lol: But you did mean it to be insulting. It was unnecessary, but you felt the need to do it because your feelings are hurt b/c Justine lost today, and your feelings were hurt by Spartan's post. The truth stings like a motherfucker, doesn't it?

And I didn't say you insulted me on a personal level, I said you got personal when you didn't have to. Me being a lawyer and 47 years old has nothing whatsoever to do with me agreeing with spartanfan. Address the issue not the person. Don't try to discredit my argument with statements about my age, profession and maturity, because it just shows your lack of anything substantive to rebut my argument with.

kinglear
May 8th, 2008, 10:12 PM
Justine, wake the fuck up. Seriously.
Serena's going to be the top half finalist now (unless we get yet another upset) and I'm guessing we'll have a new RG champion.

Well good riddens. :worship:

RVD
May 8th, 2008, 10:14 PM
All I can say is :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: WHAT HAPPENED?!!!!

Damn Dinara ! Slaying Henin is Serena's job! NOT YOURS!! :fiery: :lol:

Denise4925
May 8th, 2008, 10:15 PM
All I can say is :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: WHAT HAPPENED?!!!!

Damn Dinara ! Slaying Henin is Serena's job! NOT YOURS!! :fiery: :lol:

:lol:

#1Davenport
May 8th, 2008, 10:16 PM
Way to go Safina... I watched this match and Safina played awesome! Make way for Serena... thats all I can say! :hearts: :devil:

Conor
May 8th, 2008, 10:19 PM
Probably the best ive ever seen Dinara play, very impressive :worship:

However Justine... its just getting ridiculous now. Constantly hitting half pace balls up the middle of the court is not going to get the job done... please get your act together... and quick!

iPatty
May 8th, 2008, 10:26 PM
WOOHOO DINARA YOU MADE MY LIFE!
So unexpected and great, I never saw this coming, never ever ever never ever ever.

She always seems to pull a big win or a big tournament during the clay season every year, no matter how badly she is playing.

Do it again tomorrow.

Matt01
May 8th, 2008, 10:30 PM
How is it a lack of maturity to feel happy she lost on one hand, because I don't want Serena to have to dispatch Justine on her favorite surface in order to get to the finals and on the other hand feel kind of sad that Serena will not have an opportunity to thrash her in a QF?


You basically said that on the hand you are happy that Justine lost, but on the other hand you wanted Serena to trash Justine.

Hoping that someone loses is always showing a lack of maturity. And attacking Justine as a person because of one incident that happended years ago, like spartanfan did (and you agreed with him) even though he doesn't know her, is very classless as well.

When players like Venus or Pova have lost a match, I never state after the match that I'm happy that they lost or that I'm feeling happy about that. Instead, I say that I'm happy that their opponent (when I like her) have won the match. That's a fine but important difference.

Ellery
May 8th, 2008, 10:32 PM
OMG Justine :help:

Matt01
May 8th, 2008, 10:38 PM
Oh, and one last thing:

In a certain way, I'm happy that my fave didn't win today, because IMO Justine and Serena are way too good as players to always play in the quarters against each others. :rolleyes:

Tomorrow I will be watching the quarters live, and I will root for Serena, Ana, Janko and Vika, but I will not root against any of their opponents because I respect ALL players.

Vacant
May 8th, 2008, 10:42 PM
Wow, unexpected.

spartanfan
May 8th, 2008, 10:55 PM
You basically said that on the hand you are happy that Justine lost, but on the other hand you wanted Serena to trash Justine.

Hoping that someone loses is always showing a lack of maturity. And attacking Justine as a person because of one incident that happended years ago, like spartanfan did (and you agreed with him) even though he doesn't know her, is very classless as well.

When players like Venus or Pova have lost a match, I never state after the match that I'm happy that they lost or that I'm feeling happy about that. Instead, I say that I'm happy that their opponent (when I like her) have won the match. That's a fine but important difference.
I'm classless? How am I classless for bring up something that Justine did in a semifinals of a GS in front of not just a stadium full of people but before the entire world? To me what Justine did was the pure definition of classless, a cheat and a coward. To have to cheat to win a match, I can never respect a player for that, ever. Nor will I ever forget it, and no I will never get over it. She doesn't have the heart of a champion, she has the heart of a cheater, plain and simple. She was a coward then, and she's still a coward in 2008. Deal with it.

Denise4925
May 8th, 2008, 11:03 PM
You basically said that on the hand you are happy that Justine lost, but on the other hand you wanted Serena to trash Justine.

Hoping that someone loses is always showing a lack of maturity. And attacking Justine as a person because of one incident that happended years ago, like spartanfan did (and you agreed with him) even though he doesn't know her, is very classless as well.

When players like Venus or Pova have lost a match, I never state after the match that I'm happy that they lost or that I'm feeling happy about that. Instead, I say that I'm happy that their opponent (when I like her) have won the match. That's a fine but important difference.

:weirdo:

Okay, is this a sport?? :unsure: I thought in sports, if one person or team loses and it benefits your fave, it's okay to feel happy they lost. And, I am at a complete loss as to why I'm even dignifying this sappy illogical crap you are spewing right now. :lol: It's laughable at best.

Who's attacking her as a person? It's who she is on court that is being questioned here. People do it to players everyday. Her mental fortitude is being questioned simply because she brought it up herself in her interview. And, spartanfan and myself related her statement today back to other incidences that cement what she said.

You are free to do whatever you like when a player wins or loses. However, you are not the barometer for how I'm supposed to react or behave when a player wins or loses. :lol: What is this first grade?

Get over yourself Matt. You're fighting a losing battle and you're digging yourself in deeper and deeper. I know it's easy to get caught up in the moment, especially after a big loss and you're so emotional, but quit while you still have some semblance of pride and self-respect left.

Denise4925
May 8th, 2008, 11:04 PM
Oh, and one last thing:

In a certain way, I'm happy that my fave didn't win today, because IMO Justine and Serena are way too good as players to always play in the quarters against each others. :rolleyes:

Tomorrow I will be watching the quarters live, and I will root for Serena, Ana, Janko and Vika, but I will not root against any of their opponents because I respect ALL players.

Good for you. :worship: Sorry, but I'm fresh out of gold stars. :)

Serenidad.
May 8th, 2008, 11:04 PM
Keep fighting Justine Joketine Henin.

Topspin2
May 8th, 2008, 11:07 PM
Dinara wow :D

Olórin
May 8th, 2008, 11:09 PM
I just watched some of this match, and I really don't understand how Justine can play like that. She's a very odd person. :shrug:

cecilija
May 8th, 2008, 11:14 PM
I just watched some of this match, and I really don't understand how Justine can play like that. She's a very odd person. :shrug:

I genuinely believe that this is not Justine Henin playing :lol: Must be her doppelganger Christine :o

cs0803
May 8th, 2008, 11:15 PM
A little late..... but congrats Dinara!

Matt01
May 8th, 2008, 11:19 PM
Okay, is this a sport?? :unsure: I thought in sports, if one person or team loses and it benefits your fave, it's okay to feel happy they lost.


You really don't get it, do you? :help:
Anyway, I'll rest my case. Like I have said, you are hopeless.

The Dawntreader
May 8th, 2008, 11:19 PM
The world's going mad this week: Nadal losing in Rome and now the WTA Queen on Clay just slumping miserably to defeat in historically one of her most prolific tournaments. It's very strange, she seems to have lost all confidence and eagerness to compete. No matter how well Safina played, a 6-1 set on her favourite surfae is:o

Everything just seems so tetchy, the forehand is flying everywhere, serving so erratic amd there's no real presence there. Almost a void this year :shrug:

Denise4925
May 8th, 2008, 11:22 PM
You really don't get it, do you? :help:
Anyway, I'll rest my case. Like I have said, you are hopeless.

No, I don't get your logic. :lol: Why don't you explain it to me? Do you play any sports Matt or follow any other sports besides tennis? Do you have one iota of competitiveness in your body? Maybe it's an American sports mentality that I have and you don't. Because, this is how it works in American sports. Football, baseball and basketball. Sometimes in these sports it's imperative for a team to lose, in order for your team to move to the next round or be in a better position to make the championships. Maybe you just don't understand this type of sports mentality.

kinglear
May 8th, 2008, 11:24 PM
Speaking of upsets, I still to this day haven't seen her win against Sharapova at the 2006 Roland Garros. Can someone post that in the media section if it's not already there? I still have to check that.
Now back on topic lol. Justine really must get it together. Knowing her, she probably will. I don't get it, somehow Safina can defeat Justine, but Svetlana can't. Hmm...:rolleyes:

aznunit2k5
May 8th, 2008, 11:28 PM
And that's exactly what I meant to say in my post. A tremendous lack of maturity :shrug:
Thank you for proving me right.

I didn't write my post above to hurt your feelings or whatever. And I didn't insult you on a personal level at all :shrug:

Sour grapes...Serena bageled Henin and Safina almost did today too. Admit it, Justine is done and so are you. Your insults of people being "immature" because they are happy a cheater lost.

Admit it, you were caught red handed JUST like Justine. :)

aznunit2k5
May 8th, 2008, 11:30 PM
The world's going mad this week: Nadal losing in Rome and now the WTA Queen on Clay just slumping miserably to defeat in historically one of her most prolific tournaments. It's very strange, she seems to have lost all confidence and eagerness to compete. No matter how well Safina played, a 6-1 set on her favourite surfae is:o

Everything just seems so tetchy, the forehand is flying everywhere, serving so erratic amd there's no real presence there. Almost a void this year :shrug:

Nadal has an excuse. He played 2-3 tournaments in a row and made the finals in each and won. Henin has weeks...Nevermind weeks, a FULL month to prepare! Nadal lost because of fatigue because the ATP is trying to kill him. Henin lost because Safina was purely superior.

treufreund
May 8th, 2008, 11:32 PM
yes Justine has accomplished so much because she lacked courage. :rolleyes: Her game sucks now so her confidence is low but to IMPLY that lack of confidence is a permanent character trait in a woman who loves to skydive, has won dozens of titles, fought back in numerous marathon matches and faced illness and huge personal upheavals is truly rather short-sighted. Enjoy your day! I know that Justine losing brings about wonderfully ego-enhancing feelings of Schadenfreude for many of you who hate Justine (or any other player who is struggling).

On another note, is it too much to ask that ALL TOP PLAYERS be healthy and playing well? It just never happens anymore. It is a tough thing for the WTA that top players like serena, maria, amelie, venus, justine seem to take turns slumping. :sad:

kinglear
May 8th, 2008, 11:34 PM
Treufreund, I understand what you're saying: getting back into form is not as easy as it looks, or rather easier said than done. I'm sorry though, I'm just happy that other people can win. Basically, I'm saying that an in-form Henin is very hard to beat, so I'm giving her a big compliment. :)

pov
May 8th, 2008, 11:40 PM
No, I don't get your logic. :lol: Why don't you explain it to me? Do you play any sports Matt or follow any other sports besides tennis? Do you have one iota of competitiveness in your body? Maybe it's an American sports mentality that I have and you don't. Because, this is how it works in American sports. Football, baseball and basketball. Sometimes in these sports it's imperative for a team to lose, in order for your team to move to the next round or be in a better position to make the championships. Maybe you just don't understand this type of sports mentality.
I know that mentality. Thing is, it really isn't a sports mentality (American or otherwise) or a competitive mentality. It's a "get over" mentality - which is much different. It's a mentality usually found only among some fans. Generally, top athletes want to compete against others considered the best. That's a competitive drive.

Matt01
May 8th, 2008, 11:52 PM
Admit it, Justine is done and so are you.


:weirdo:

Denise4925
May 9th, 2008, 12:00 AM
I know that mentality. Thing is, it really isn't a sports mentality (American or otherwise) or a competitive mentality. It's a "get over" mentality - which is much different. It's a mentality usually found only among some fans. Generally, top athletes want to compete against others considered the best. That's a competitive drive.

Then obviously you have failed to read the thread. I said in earlier posts that I was sad that she was beaten so early. It prevented Serena from the opportunity of THRASHING her in the QF for payback. I also said, I hope it's not an injury, because I don't want to hear any excuses from her fans that she only lost because of injury. I want her good and healthy when Serena gets another crack at her this year. That's my competitive drive.

Did you even read what I said about why in other American sports such as football, basketball and baseball it's good for some teams to lose? But, I guess you wouldn't understand that unless you followed those sports. Please don't offer an opinion on something you don't have a clue about.

Matt01
May 9th, 2008, 12:09 AM
No, I don't get your logic. :lol: Why don't you explain it to me? Do you play any sports Matt or follow any other sports besides tennis? Do you have one iota of competitiveness in your body? Maybe it's an American sports mentality that I have and you don't. Because, this is how it works in American sports. Football, baseball and basketball. Sometimes in these sports it's imperative for a team to lose, in order for your team to move to the next round or be in a better position to make the championships. Maybe you just don't understand this type of sports mentality.


Yes and yes. I'm playing tennis since more than ten years and I'm regularly going to figure skating competitions, so you don't need to tell me anything about how a competition works.

And if that the way it works in America, fine. I'm not forcing others to understand my point of view or see things the way I do. But when in Germany in a, lets say tennis event, a local players plays someone from another country, it is generally (not by everyone because everywhere are some idiots) considered IMPOLITE to express the view that you hope that the foreign players loses and gets trashed. It is considered UNFAIR and RUDE when people express that view by clapping when the the foreign player makes e.g. a double fault. Of course, I don't expect you to understand or adopt to that point of view, but I see nothing wrong with expresing my opiion by calling a behaviour IMMATURE when people do/think the things I just stated above.

DownTheLine21
May 9th, 2008, 12:11 AM
Yes and yes. I'm playing tennis since more than ten years and I'm regularly going to figure skating competitions, so you don't need to tell me anything about how a competition works.

And if that the way it works in America, fine. I'm not forcing others to understand my point of view or see things the way I do. But when in Germany in a, lets say tennis event, a local players plays someone from another country, it is generally (not by everyone because everywhere are some idiots) considered IMPOLITE to express the view that you hope that the foreign players loses and gets trashed. It is considered UNFAIR and RUDE when people express that view by clapping when the the foreign player makes e.g. a double fault. Of course, I don't expect you to understand or adopt to that point of view, but I see nothing wrong with expresing my opiion by calling a behaviour IMMATURE when people do/think the things I just stated above.

It's not just America. Have you ever watched the French Open? The crowd is exactly as you describe.

spiritedenergy
May 9th, 2008, 12:15 AM
I don't know if it's really confidence. It looks to me more like lack of motivation and health problems (knee). I mean she dominated last year and reunited with her family and now she found a new boyfriend (?). It's just normal for her to be less focused and interested but I think she'll get the will to win back.

aznunit2k5
May 9th, 2008, 12:15 AM
:weirdo:

:rolleyes: That was a very immature response. :)

aznunit2k5
May 9th, 2008, 12:17 AM
I don't know if it's really confidence. It looks to me more like lack of motivation and health problems (knee). I mean she dominated last year and reunited with her family and now she found a new boyfriend (?). It's just normal for her to be less focused and interested but I think she'll get the will to win back.

Knee problems?!?! She just used it as an excuse. She was running just fine. It just so happens that it hurts only when Safina was beating her.

spiritedenergy
May 9th, 2008, 12:22 AM
Knee problems?!?! She just used it as an excuse. She was running just fine. It just so happens that it hurts only when Safina was beating her.

Well you clearly hate her so you are biased.

dearplastic
May 9th, 2008, 12:24 AM
To all the Serena fans who say Justine is "done" or "beginning her decline":

Shut up. You give a bad name to Serena fans. Why exactly is Justine on the decline again? Because she lost a few matches here and there? This has happened to the Williams sisters before. Justine is in a little slump, that's it. So just shut up, seriously. I'm a hardcore Serena fan but this anti-Justine attitude is just annoying. When she loses 2r or 3r at the next couple slams, I'll eat my hat.

Good job Dinara for a well-earned win.

Matt01
May 9th, 2008, 12:31 AM
It's not just America. Have you ever watched the French Open? The crowd is exactly as you describe.


The crowd at RG can be very quite "extreme" by expressing their opinions but they are not generally rude or unfair against foreign players.

Matt01
May 9th, 2008, 12:31 AM
:rolleyes: That was a very immature response. :)


I thought that smiley was the most fitting for your post :)

OsloErik
May 9th, 2008, 12:39 AM
Is anyone else not particularly surprised, and not because Henin is slumping? Safina has been on the radar as a future top 10er since she was 15. It's 6 years later, and she has never quite stepped it up as well as she should, but she's dangerous, and clay is her surface. She's been a sleeper pick for the semifinals since 2006, and she's consistently done well at the Tier I's, so this was hardly a loss to a nobody.

DaMamaJama87
May 9th, 2008, 12:52 AM
LOL!

And you atheists still don't believe that there is a GOD! :rolls: :bounce:

WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND AND I FOR ONE AM ENJOYING HER REAP THE FRUITS OF HER CHEATING

flyingmachine
May 9th, 2008, 12:57 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :bigcry:

spartanfan
May 9th, 2008, 12:59 AM
The crowd at RG can be very quite "extreme" by expressing their opinions but they are not generally rude or unfair against foreign players.
Apparently this clown has never watched a Fed Cup or Davis Cup match or an international soccer match. Face it, you're a loser.

LightWarrior
May 9th, 2008, 01:02 AM
She's lost it, it was totally obvious. God know I've hated her in the past, but it is so sad to see a champion being lost the way she was today. No spark, no motivation. Eerie she talks about retirement at the same time. Something is broken.
And it is so ironic that while henin has been falling apart, Serena has been picking up. Serena seems so serene and unstoppable, with a such a beautiful game developping

Matt01
May 9th, 2008, 01:04 AM
Face it, you're a loser.


:lol: :tape:

LightWarrior
May 9th, 2008, 01:07 AM
LOL!

And you atheists still don't believe that there is a GOD! :rolls: :bounce:

WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND AND I FOR ONE AM ENJOYING HER REAP THE FRUITS OF HER CHEATING


Oh, karma then...Btw look what happened to Capriati after her win againt Serena when Serena had only bad calls at the US Open a few years ago !

F-R-E-A-K
May 9th, 2008, 01:09 AM
:eek: :eek:

Congrats Dinara. :) :D


Justine :sad:

vettipooh
May 9th, 2008, 01:38 AM
What a shock defeat. Well done Dianra.:woohoo: I would have loved to see the look on that Carlos' face at 5/0. :lol: Now everyone knows she's vulnerable and will be waiting for her in Rome, if she plays. :o

new-york
May 9th, 2008, 01:41 AM
very surprising.

i didn't believe that Dinara could do that, especially after losing the first set.

pov
May 9th, 2008, 01:41 AM
LOL!

And you atheists still don't believe that there is a GOD!
WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND AND I FOR ONE AM ENJOYING HER REAP THE FRUITS OF HER CHEATING
:haha: That's beyond moronic.

Cheating? I hope you're not just talking about that hand incident.

How does that go? MamaJ's god: "That Henin woman didn't admit that she had put her hand up! She'll have to pay. I will send her the scourge of self-doubt."

Junex
May 9th, 2008, 01:47 AM
Well... as a true justine fan...

Its a wait and see game for us....

on to Rome.... and Roland Garros...
the season is not yet over and we know very well that Justine will recover....
she just makes the drama more intense..................

SOA_MC
May 9th, 2008, 01:55 AM
LOL!

And you atheists still don't believe that there is a GOD! :rolls: :bounce:

WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND AND I FOR ONE AM ENJOYING HER REAP THE FRUITS OF HER CHEATING

5 years and 7 GS later god finally decides to punish her (Talk about cutting through the red tape)

I've read some dumb comments on this board but this one is the dumbest congratulations:weirdo:

spartanfan
May 9th, 2008, 01:57 AM
:lol: :tape:
I'm glad that you agree that you're a loser.:lol:

friendsita
May 9th, 2008, 02:07 AM
Serena's going to be the top half finalist now (unless we get yet another upset) and I'm guessing we'll have a new RG champion.

And that is a fact :bounce:

Il Primo!
May 9th, 2008, 02:08 AM
The crowd at RG can be very quite "extreme" by expressing their opinions but they are not generally rude or unfair against foreign players.

Get real

mckyle.
May 9th, 2008, 03:27 AM
Wow, get it together Justine :o

That's really all I can say :lol:

RandomShot
May 9th, 2008, 07:59 AM
:eek:

Beny
May 9th, 2008, 08:15 AM
Dinara played really well. She might beat Serena as well

OsloErik
May 9th, 2008, 08:41 AM
I don't know why people keep on scoffing at Henin for losing to Safina; she's been inside the top 20 for two years, reached two Tier I finals on clay...she's quality on this surface; maybe not Henin-Serena-Kuznetsova-Ivanovic-Jankovic quality, but certainly among the 2nd tier of clay courters.

Sammy 4 eva!!!
May 9th, 2008, 08:45 AM
Dina :worship:

Mileen
May 9th, 2008, 09:45 AM
Knee problems?!?! She just used it as an excuse. She was running just fine. It just so happens that it hurts only when Safina was beating her.

Stop projecting Serena crap on Justine. We all know Serena and Serena fans are the queen of excuses and even worse statements, really low and not-done statements.

What, you're from yesterday??? You didn't know she has a knee injury??

Justine probably needs surgery on her knee. She's been playing with shots in her knee twice. Indeed, at AO and Miami pain bothered her play.
Also, it appeared she had/still has an iron deficiency. Don't know if that is over yet.

BUT: that has nothing to do with her loss today. Mainly, she is having motivation problems. Which is completely logical, after having established herself, built up her career and having won so so much.

andrewC
May 9th, 2008, 09:56 AM
i thought dinara wasted her chances when she was leading in the first set but still lost it. surprising!

homogenius
May 9th, 2008, 10:33 AM
I don't know why people keep on scoffing at Henin for losing to Safina; she's been inside the top 20 for two years, reached two Tier I finals on clay...she's quality on this surface; maybe not Henin-Serena-Kuznetsova-Ivanovic-Jankovic quality, but certainly among the 2nd tier of clay courters.

The problem for Henin is not the losses but the way she lost.She's still n°7 in the race with 2 tournaments won and has RG to comeback on tracks so her year is not THAT horrible.
Losing to Safina on clay is not a shame but the way Henin has played and lost her matches this year (no fight in second set against Sharapova and Serena, almost bagel by Safina in the third) is strange.Something is wrong with her (dunno if it's the knee, lack of motivation or burn out after her great 2007) and for the moment playing on clay has not changed that.