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perseus2006
Apr 13th, 2008, 10:24 PM
Charleston: The Numbers, The Stakes. Prelim!

2007 Charleston finishing round and points are shown in the first
two columns, then the Rank and Points for the top 12 players.
Points earned at 2008 Charleston are projected by round to the
right. Note that a number of players have over 17 tournaments
so they need to earn more points than their 17th tournament before
the 2008 Charleston points earned add into their Ranking Points.

The Numbers:
WTA Ranking Info ======= Charleston Points by Round =======
= ==== ======= ======= ==========================================
07 Cha 14APR08 1 60 110 195 300 430
R Pnts # Pnts Player 2 3 QF SF F W
====== = ===== ======= ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ====
-np- 1 6105 Justine -np-
3 60** 2 4157 Ana -np-
-np- 3 3905 Kuzy -np-
-np- 4 3876 Pova 3877 3936 3986 4071 4176 4306
W 430** 5 3770 JJ 3770 3770 3775 3860 3965 4095
-np- 6 2665 Achak 2665 2690 2740 2825 2930 3060
S 195 7 2586 Venus -np-
-np- 8 2305 Elena 2305 2305 2355 2440 2545 2675
2 1 9 2296 Serena 2297 2356 2406 2491 2596 2726
-np- 10 2257 Dani -np-
2 35* 11 2198 Bartoli 2198 2198 2243 2328 2433 2563
2 1* 12 1915 Patty 1915 1915 1965 2050 2155 2285

-np- = not playing.
* 2007 points not included in the best 17 Tournaments points.
** 18th Tournament points considered.

The Stakes:

Pova: Ana and Kuzy are not playing. Pova can pass Kuzy for #3 with
a third round finish. Pova could also pass up Ana for the #2 rank
by making the Final! To catch Ana, Pova has to get by Serena in the
QF's. This adds a bit of spice to that prospective meeting.

JJ: JJ has possibilities to get back into the Top 4. The most obvious
is to make the Final and pass Kuzy. There are also scenarios where JJ
and Pova fight for the #3 and the #4 rank.

AChak: AChak has another opportunity to add to her lead over Venus.

Elena: Elena is in a tough spot. Serena is right behind her and there
are way too many scenarios where Serena recaptures the #8 Rank. Elena
has to outperform Serena to have a chance to keep #8.

Bartoli: Bartoli will pass Dani by reaching the SF's.

If you see a problem with a player's points, let me know. Be sure to
check their 17th tournament points first, though.

Craig.
Apr 13th, 2008, 10:28 PM
So, according to this... If Maria gets to the quarters and JJ to the final... Maria would be #3!

E.Dementieva_FAN
Apr 13th, 2008, 10:30 PM
You should add 60 pts to Elena's pts from the third round. ;)

sammy01
Apr 13th, 2008, 10:33 PM
its such a good oppurtunity for achak to gain points, beating the winner of king vs cristea will improve her points by 25 and thats only getting to the 3rd round, such was her bad clay court season last year.

perseus2006
Apr 13th, 2008, 11:08 PM
You should add 60 pts to Elena's pts from the third round. ;)

I don't think that's right. The 60 points from 2007 Berlin are currently in her 2305 Ranking Points as her 17 tournament. If Elena earns more than 60 points at Charleston, then Berlin's points are taken out: 2305 - 60 = 2245. Then Charleston points added in: if Elena made the QF's worth 110 points, then: 2245 + 110 = 2355.

Are we in agreement now?

SAEKeithSerena
Apr 13th, 2008, 11:47 PM
serena, win this. you need the points :)

spartanfan
Apr 14th, 2008, 03:45 AM
If JJ is the defending champ, how can she add to her point total?

Expat
Apr 14th, 2008, 03:48 AM
If JJ is the defending champ, how can she add to her point total?

charleston points came off last week
thats why maria is now no 4

perseus2006
Apr 15th, 2008, 05:17 PM
Tuesday, 15Apr08,

If AChak falls in the 2nd rnd, Elena can pass both Venus and her with a Win. Serena will pass Venus by making the Final and also, with a Win, Serena will pass AChak if AChak doesn't get to the QF's or better.

AChak can protect her #6 rank with a deep run.

Elena and Serena can make ranks #6 to #9 a real positional battleground for future tournaments by going very deep here in Charleston.

The opportunities are there, will anyone take them?

vadin124
Apr 15th, 2008, 05:58 PM
basically if Maria reaches the final she's #2...:bounce:

Mikey.
Apr 15th, 2008, 06:17 PM
basically if Maria reaches the final she's #2...:bounce:

:hearts::hearts::hearts:

Galsen
Apr 15th, 2008, 07:48 PM
Serena can be 6th:)

joćo.
Apr 15th, 2008, 07:50 PM
omfg! Maria needs to get at least a 3R win then. :D

Slutati
Apr 15th, 2008, 07:54 PM
AChak: AChak has another opportunity to add to her lead over Venus.

Bartoli: Bartoli will pass Dani by reaching the SF's.

Yeah, that's gonna happen:rolls::rolls:

Mina Vagante
Apr 15th, 2008, 08:03 PM
Serena can be 6th:)

How?

Expat
Apr 15th, 2008, 08:13 PM
with chaky loss now serena can be 6th if she wins the tourny

doni1212
Apr 15th, 2008, 08:16 PM
with chaky loss now serena can be 6th if she wins the tourny

Yes! What if she makes it to the finals?

Expat
Apr 15th, 2008, 08:20 PM
Yes! What if she makes it to the finals?
assuming elena does not win the tourno and serena reaches the final she will rise to no 7

doni1212
Apr 15th, 2008, 08:23 PM
assuming elena does not win the tourno and serena reaches the final she will rise to no 7

Ok, thanks!

perseus2006
Apr 16th, 2008, 03:10 PM
Wednesday, 16Apr08,

Yesterday:

AChak failed to take advantage of her opportunities, again. Her #6 rank is now in peril.

Serena moves on to the 3rd Round, passing Elena for the #8 rank at this point. Further opportunities for Serena include passing Venus for #7 by making the final and AChak for #6 by winning the tournament.


Today's matches of interest:

Elena v Craybas at 10:00 AM EDT. Starts now. For Elena to take back #8 she needs to get to the SF while Serena falls in the QF. From that point on, Elena needs to finish a notch ahead of Serena in this tournament to stay ahead of her in the rankings. Lets see how she plays.

Cornet v Errani at 11:30 AM EDT. Cornet made the SF at Amelia Island. Can she make a deep run at Charleston and demonstrate that she is an emerging player.

Pova v Mattek at 7:00 PM EDT. If Pova wins this match she is into the 3rd round and passes Kuzy for #3 rank. Pova could pass Ana at #2 by making the Final. However JJ is on her heels and can challenge for the #3 rank until Pova makes the Final. Lets see how Pova plays this week after four arduous matches last week.

Lots of fun on the court today.

RenaSlam.
Apr 16th, 2008, 03:12 PM
:wavey: Anna C :)

perseus2006
Apr 17th, 2008, 02:56 PM
Thursday, 17Apr08, 3rd Round

Notice the ranking points column includes 3rd Round points through
17APR08. Pova has bumped Kuzy for #3 and Serena has bumped Elena
for #8


The Numbers:

WTA Ranking Info ======= Charleston Points by Round =======
= ==== ======= ======= ==========================================
07 Cha 17APR08 1 60 110 195 300 430
R Pnts # Pnts Player 2 3 QF SF F W
====== = ===== ======= ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ====
-np- 1 6105 Justine -np-
3 60** 2 4157 Ana -np-
-np- 3 3905 Kuzy -np-
-np- 4 3936 Pova 3877 3936 3986 4071 4176 4306
W 430** 5 3770 JJ 3770 3770 3775 3860 3965 4095
-np- 6 2665 Achak 2665 out
S 195 7 2586 Venus -np-
-np- 8 2305 Elena 2305 2305 2355 2440 2545 2675
2 1 9 2356 Serena 2297 2356 2406 2491 2596 2726
-np- 10 2257 Dani -np-
2 35* 11 2198 Bartoli 2198 2198 2243 2328 2433 2563
2 1* 12 1915 Patty 1915 1915 1965 2050 2155 2285

-np- = not playing.
* 2007 points not included in the best 17 Tournaments points.
** 18th Tournament points considered.


Yesterday:

Pova and Elena kicked open the Bakery doors and served out three bagels in four sets! It appears they are taking this tournament seriously.

Cornet won through in three sets. A nice follow-up to her Amelia Island play.


Today:

All the matches today are interesting. The big guns, Serena, Pova and JJ, are all up against journeyman players who could take them out if they don't bring game. Four other matches features an up-and-comer against an established player. My picks for most interesting are:

Patty v ARad. After Patty's disappointing performance at Amelia Island, she has something to prove! ARad just wants to win. This should be a good clay court match-up between #12 Patty and #14 ARad.

Cornet v Cirstea. Cirstea showed some good game at Amelia Island but was taken out by Ame. I expect #86 Cirstea to seriously challenge #40 Cornet for this match.

Everybody is going to be monitoring Pova's and Serena's matches to see if these Galactic Superstars both come through for the anticipate Quarter Final contest.

An exciting day for tennis. Wish I were there!

Emina.
Apr 17th, 2008, 04:16 PM
yay..masha :bounce:

perseus2006
Apr 18th, 2008, 02:15 PM
Friday. 18Apr08, Quarter Finals.

Notice the ranking points column includes Quarter Final points
through 18APR08.


The Numbers:


WTA Ranking Info ======= Charleston Points by Round =======
= ==== ======= ======= ==========================================
07 Cha 18APR08 1 60 110 195 300 430
R Pnts # Pnts Player 2 3 QF SF F W
====== = ===== ======= ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ====
-np- 1 6105 Justine -np-
3 60** 2 4157 Ana -np-
-np- 3 3905 Kuzy -np-
-np- 4 3986 Pova 3877 3936 3986 4071 4176 4306
W 430** 5 3775 JJ 3770 3770 3775 3860 3965 4095
-np- 6 2665 Achak 2665 out
S 195 7 2586 Venus -np-
-np- 8 2355 Elena 2305 2305 2355 2440 2545 2675
2 1 9 2406 Serena 2297 2356 2406 2491 2596 2726
-np- 10 2257 Dani -np-
2 35* 11 2198 Bartoli 2198 2198 out
2 1* 12 1965 Patty 1915 1915 1965 2050 2155 2285

-np- = not playing.
* 2007 points not included in the best 17 Tournaments points.
** 18th Tournament points considered.


Yesterday there were no surprises in 3rd round play.

Today, the Quarter Finals seem to be all about the Pova v Serena
match. This match will be featured on ESPN2 at 1:00 PM EDT. This much
anticipated clash of the Titans has a high probability of occurring.
The only known obstacle is the impact of Serena's fall in her match with Srebotnik. Serena said she would have to see how she is feeling Friday
after the adrenaline from the Srebotnik match wears off.

The other three QF matches are all good, though, and worthy of monitoring

Expat
Apr 18th, 2008, 10:02 PM
after the pova exit today jelena can only displace her off no 3 if she wins the tournament

E.Dementieva_FAN
Apr 18th, 2008, 10:09 PM
I don't think that's right. The 60 points from 2007 Berlin are currently in her 2305 Ranking Points as her 17 tournament. If Elena earns more than 60 points at Charleston, then Berlin's points are taken out: 2305 - 60 = 2245. Then Charleston points added in: if Elena made the QF's worth 110 points, then: 2245 + 110 = 2355.

Are we in agreement now?

You're right, yes. Great work! :worship:

Cp6uja
Apr 18th, 2008, 11:01 PM
Originally Posted by perseus2006
Friday. 18Apr08, Quarter Finals.

Notice the ranking points column includes Quarter Final points
through 18APR08.

The Numbers:
WTA Ranking Info ======= Charleston Points by Round =======
= ==== ======= ======= ==========================================
07 Cha 18APR08 1 60 110 195 300 430
R Pnts # Pnts Player 2 3 QF SF F W
====== = ===== ======= ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ====
-np- 1 6105 Justine -np-
3 60** 2 4157 Ana -np-
-np- 3 3986 Pova QF out
-np- 4 3905 Kuzy -np-
W 430** 5 3775 JJ QF 3775 3860 3965 4095
-np- 6 2665 Chaky R2 out
S 195 7 2586 Venus -np-
2 1 8 2491 Serena SF 2491 2596 2726
-np- 9 2355 Elena QF 2355 2440 2545 2675
-np- 10 2257 Dani -np-
2 35* 11 2198 Bartoli R3 out
2 1* 12 1965 Patty QF 1965 2050 2155 2285

-np- = not playing.
* 2007 points not included in the best 17 Tournaments points.
** 18th Tournament points considered.


.Good work :wavey:

But when you update with new facts i think is better if you simple delete numbers which is not relevant anymore (see code area which i copy/paste from your latest post and than delete usefull numpers).

perseus2006
Apr 19th, 2008, 04:57 PM
Saturday. 19Apr08, Semi-Finals.
Notice the ranking points column includes Semi-Final points
through 19APR08.


The Numbers:


WTA Ranking Info ======= Charleston Points by Round =======
= ==== ======= ======= ==========================================
07 Cha 19APR08 1 60 110 195 300 430
R Pnts # Pnts Player 2 3 QF SF F W
====== = ===== ======= ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ====
-np- 1 6105 Justine -np-
3 60** 2 4157 Ana -np-
-np- 3 3905 Kuzy -np-
-np- 4 3986 Pova 3877 3936 3986 out
W 430** 5 3775 JJ 3770 3770 3775 out
-np- 6 2665 Achak 2665 out
S 195 7 2586 Venus -np-
-np- 8 2440 Elena 2305 2305 2355 2440 2545 2675
2 1 9 2491 Serena 2297 2356 2406 2491 2596 2726
-np- 10 2257 Dani -np-
2 35* 11 2198 Bartoli 2198 2198 out
2 1* 12 1965 Patty 1915 1915 1965 out

-np- = not playing.
* 2007 points not included in the best 17 Tournaments points.
** 18th Tournament points considered.

Yesterday saw JJ, Pova and Patty all exit the tournament! In the
featured match on TV, Serena and Pova played tight splitting the first
two sets. Then Serena ran away with the third.

Today it's the "all Russian" Elena v Vera match and Serena taking
on the up-and-comer Cornet. The stakes are high: Elena needs to win the
tournament to get back ahead of Serena. If Serena also wins today, she
passes Venus for #7.

Who will be in the Final?

LudwigDvorak
Apr 19th, 2008, 05:35 PM
What happens if it's a Serena/Lena F, with Lena winning it all?

perseus2006
Apr 19th, 2008, 05:44 PM
If Elena d Serena in the Final, then:

#6 Elena
#7 AChak
#8 Serena
#9 Venus

All within 100 points of each other!

Mikey.
Apr 19th, 2008, 05:48 PM
WOW! That's pretty cool. I love the competitive rankings.

LeRoy.
Apr 19th, 2008, 07:51 PM
I hope Serena gets to # 6 by winning the title tomorrow.

What about Vera's ranking if she gets to the final ? what if she wins the title?

perseus2006
Apr 20th, 2008, 12:22 AM
Sunday. 20Apr08, Final.

Notice the ranking points column includes Finalist points.

The Numbers:


WTA Ranking Info ======= Charleston Points by Round =======
= ==== ======= ======= ==========================================
07 Cha 20APR08 1 60 110 195 300 430
R Pnts # Pnts Player 2 3 QF SF F W
====== = ===== ======= ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ====
-np- 1 6105 Justine -np-
3 60** 2 4157 Ana -np-
-np- 3 3905 Kuzy -np-
-np- 4 3986 Pova 3877 3936 3986 out
W 430** 5 3775 JJ 3770 3770 3775 out
-np- 6 2665 Achak 2665 out
S 195 7 2586 Venus -np-
-np- 8 2440 Elena 2305 2305 2355 2440 out
2 1 9 2596 Serena 2297 2356 2406 2491 2596 2726
-np- 10 2257 Dani -np-
2 35* 11 2198 Bartoli 2198 2198 out
2 1* 12 1965 Patty 1915 1915 1965 out
S 195 17 1627 Vera 1627 1757

-np- = not playing.
* 2007 points not included in the best 17 Tournaments points.
** 18th Tournament points considered.


Semi-Final Results:

Elena loses her SF match to Vera and will drop to #9 on 21Apr08, 144 points behind Venus at #8.

Serena is into the Final and Finalist points are just enough to pass Venus for the #7 rank.

Vera, added to the list above, made the Semi-Finals last year and gets to the Final this year, passing Aga Radwanska for #14.


The Final: Serena v Vera.

A win for Serena would see her past AChak for the #6 rank.

A win for Vera gives her the #13 rank over Szavay.

Kunal
Apr 20th, 2008, 01:33 AM
lets go rena

Thanx4nothin
Apr 20th, 2008, 02:02 AM
Serena deserves the 6th ranking over AC on form so far lol!

sammy01
Apr 20th, 2008, 02:07 AM
Serena deserves the 6th ranking over AC on form so far lol!

yeah she does if annas gonna lose the #6 ranking then its serena that should take it from her.

perseus2006
Apr 21st, 2008, 12:49 AM
Sunday. 20Apr08, Wrap-up.

Note the players are rearanged to reflect new ranks.

The Numbers:


WTA Ranking Info ======= Charleston Points by Round =======
= ==== ======= ======= ==========================================
07 Cha 21APR08 1 60 110 195 300 430
R Pnts # Pnts Player 2 3 QF SF F W
====== = ===== ======= ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ====
-np- 1 6105 Justine -np-
3 60** 2 4157 Ana -np-
-np- 3 3986 Pova 3877 3936 3986 out
-np- 4 3905 Kuzy -np-
W 430** 5 3775 JJ 3770 3770 3775 out
2 1 6 2726 Serena 2297 2356 2406 2491 2596 2726
-np- 7 2665 Achak 2665 out
S 195 8 2586 Venus -np-
-np- 9 2440 Elena 2305 2305 2355 2440 out
-np- 10 2257 Dani -np-
2 35* 11 2198 Bartoli 2198 2198 out
2 1* 12 1965 Patty 1915 1915 1965 out
S 195 17 1627 Vera 1627 out

-np- = not playing.
* 2007 points not included in the best 17 Tournaments points.
** 18th Tournament points considered.

Who succeeded (in rank order):

Pova passed Kuzy for the #3 Rank with her quarter-final finish!

Serena passed Elena, Venus and AChak for #6 with her tournament Win!

Vera moved up to #14 with her Finalist finish.


Next up: Berlin on Terre Battue! I'll implement some changes suggested by Cp6uja and a few others I received through pm's. Let me know if there is an important detail you would like to see in the charts.