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Joachim1978
Apr 12th, 2008, 04:36 AM
Which are the ones that surprise you.....

of the top of my head:

DULKO vs KUZNETSOVA 2-2

DULKO VS NAVRATILOVA 2-0

VAVRINEC VS HENIN 1-0

kittyking
Apr 12th, 2008, 04:37 AM
Leanne Baker vs Kim Clijsters 1-0 :eek:

In The Zone
Apr 12th, 2008, 04:38 AM
V.Williams v. Henin 7-2. :drool:

Direwolf
Apr 12th, 2008, 04:39 AM
Garbin 2-2 Henin
Golovin 2-0 Venus Williams
Davenport 11-10(notsure) Venus Williams

darrinbaker00
Apr 12th, 2008, 04:43 AM
Garbin 2-2 Henin
Golovin 2-0 Venus Williams
Davenport 11-10(notsure) Venus Williams
http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/2/players/playerprofiles/playerheadtoheaddetail.asp?PlayerID=230220&Player1ID=40106

njnetswill
Apr 12th, 2008, 04:44 AM
Jankovic's record against the Chinese girls. :help:

InsideOut.
Apr 12th, 2008, 04:49 AM
Which are the ones that surprise you.....

of the top of my head:

DULKO vs KUZNETSOVA 2-2

DULKO VS NAVRATILOVA 2-0

VAVRINEC VS HENIN 1-0

What's funny is that she actually played Martina...:drool:

Vavrinec defeated Henin???? :eek::eek: But actually their H2H is 1-1; Henin defeated Vavrinec in 2001.

Weird ones for me:
Vaidisova vs. Sharapova 0-0 (They were in Top 10 together but never met...)
K. Bondarenko vs. A. Bondarenko 3-2

Drake1980
Apr 12th, 2008, 04:52 AM
Maureen Drake leads Patty Schnyder 1-0:drool:

Wayn77
Apr 12th, 2008, 04:53 AM
Jankovic's record against the Chinese girls. :help:

:help: :tape: :o

off the top of my head ...

DEMENTIEVA 3-0 IVANOVIC

AcesHigh
Apr 12th, 2008, 04:59 AM
Justine Henin v. Eleni Danilidou: 2-2

and I am always surprised to see that Capriait never beat Venus: 0-4
Interesting that 3 of those wins came in 2001 when some say Capriati was the better player ;)

darrinbaker00
Apr 12th, 2008, 05:04 AM
Which are the ones that surprise you.....

of the top of my head:

DULKO vs KUZNETSOVA 2-2
One of Dulko's wins was a home Fed Cup rubber; the other was in two tiebreaks, where anything can happen. What's weird about those?
DULKO VS NAVRATILOVA 2-0
Navratilova was two minutes away from AARP membership when they played. It would have been weird if Navratilova had won either or both of those.
VAVRINEC VS HENIN 1-0
Actually, it's 1-1: in 1999, Mirka was ranked higher than Justine (211 vs. 230) when they played in the quarterfinals of a $25,000 Challenger event in Rockford, IL. In 2001, Justine was ranked higher than Mirka (6 vs. 90) when they played in the third round of the US Open. Again, what's weird about those?

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Apr 12th, 2008, 05:34 AM
:help: :tape: :o

off the top of my head ...

DEMENTIEVA 3-0 IVANOVIC

What is so weird ? :confused:

I mean , it's not a top 40-100 player or a journeywoman who leads that serie

RND
Apr 12th, 2008, 05:54 AM
Yung-Jan Chan 1:1 Serena Williams :drool: :p

Yung-Jan Chan 0:3 Akgul Amanmuradova :( :sad:

darrinbaker00
Apr 12th, 2008, 06:21 AM
Yung-Jan Chan 1:1 Serena Williams :drool: :p
What's so weird about that? The first time they played, Latisha was playing her first WTA Tour main-draw match (and her first match of any kind outside of Asia, if I'm not mistaken). The second time they played, Latisha made Serena quit. ;)

Chunchun
Apr 12th, 2008, 06:28 AM
Which are the ones that surprise you.....

of the top of my head:

DULKO vs KUZNETSOVA 2-2

DULKO VS NAVRATILOVA 2-0

VAVRINEC VS HENIN 1-0

DULKO VS DEMENTIEVA 2-0

HENIN VS KUZNETSOVA IS LIKE 16-2??

crazillo
Apr 12th, 2008, 06:44 AM
Tauziat-Graf 0:21 (don't think she won a single set...)
Tauziat-Seles 0:12
Testud-Hingis dunno but Hingis won every time and it was fucking close and exciting very often, it was like 0-14
Bacheva-Clijsters 1:0
Maleeva-Davenport 3-3
Maleeva-V.Williams 3-3
Maleeva-ASV 6-5
Maleeva-Rubin 7:1
Martinez-Maleeva 11:1
Novotna-Graf 4:28 (or 29)

faboozadoo15
Apr 12th, 2008, 06:47 AM
Navratilova was two minutes away from AARP membership when they played. It would have been weird if Navratilova had won either or both of those.


You don't reckon it slightly strange that Navratilova, playing as a 48 year old ran into the same 21 year old during her mini-look-what-I-can do-comeback?

I doubt when Gisela turned pro in 2001 she though't she'd ever set foot on the same court as Navratilova, let alone at the French Open AND Wimbledon.

AcesHigh
Apr 12th, 2008, 07:01 AM
You don't reckon it slightly strange that Navratilova, playing as a 48 year old ran into the same 21 year old during her mini-look-what-I-can do-comeback?

I doubt when Gisela turned pro in 2001 she though't she'd ever set foot on the same court as Navratilova, let alone at the French Open AND Wimbledon.

I agree.. it was a bit weird. I kinda thought it was funny and sad at the same time :lol:

Gunter
Apr 12th, 2008, 07:47 AM
Kim Clijsters - Chanda Rubin 7/0
Not so special, but Kim always won the tournament when she played Chanda :)

Jakeev
Apr 12th, 2008, 08:00 AM
What's so weird about that? The first time they played, Latisha was playing her first WTA Tour main-draw match (and her first match of any kind outside of Asia, if I'm not mistaken). The second time they played, Latisha made Serena quit. ;)
Interesting head to heads but not exactly weird. Like Vavrinec having a win over Justine for instance. That happened when both were up and coming players so why couldn't she have had a win over Henin?

You should read the names of some of the other players Henin lost to in her early days. Heck after that loss to Mira she was beaten by Nicole Pratt and Angeles Motolio in other events that same year.

faboozadoo15
Apr 12th, 2008, 08:03 AM
Does Pratt have a winning record over anyone?

RND
Apr 12th, 2008, 08:13 AM
What's so weird about that? The first time they played, Latisha was playing her first WTA Tour main-draw match (and her first match of any kind outside of Asia, if I'm not mistaken). The second time they played, Latisha made Serena quit. ;)
You actually did follow her. :eek: :lol: I thought you were just making fun of the name. ;) :angel:

tennis-jack
Apr 12th, 2008, 08:22 AM
Wozniacki 2-0 Bartoli 6-2 6-3, 6-3 6-1.

Brett.
Apr 12th, 2008, 08:43 AM
Venus Williams vs the Bulgarians :)

Adal
Apr 12th, 2008, 08:45 AM
Kuzzy-Henin one is so totally weird :o

Ballbasher
Apr 12th, 2008, 08:49 AM
Roesch leads Dementieva 3-1 it always has to come up :haha:

Slutati
Apr 12th, 2008, 09:05 AM
Golovin-Venus 2:0
Golovin-Kuznetsova 3:1
Golovin-Petrova 5:1
Dementieva-Hantuchova 9:3

Anabelcroft
Apr 12th, 2008, 09:15 AM
Amy Frazier leads Henin H2H-2:1

Highlandman
Apr 12th, 2008, 09:18 AM
Roesch vs. Dementieva 3-1 ;) By far my fave :p

matanuriel
Apr 12th, 2008, 09:56 AM
Shahar leads Ivanovic 2-0 :drool:

I love the Roesch- Dementieva one too.

Renalicious
Apr 12th, 2008, 10:32 AM
Dementieva leads Ivanovic 3-0
Safina leads Zvonareva 5-3 (5-1 before 2008)
Bartoli ties Jankovic 3-3 (I dunno, weird to me.)
Safarova leads Henin 1-0
Reeves (Highest Rank ever = 61) leads Sharapova 1-0
Molik leads Jankovic 4-2
Chakvetadze leads Jankovic 6-3
Na Li leads Jankovic 4-1 and Yan Zi leads JJ 2-0
Mattek, Ani, Dushevina, Poutchkova, Brandi, Gagrialdi, Arn, Widjaja, Zulaga all lead Jankovic 1-0
Schnyder leads Ivanovic 4-3

And now the Pratty section. :worship:
Pratt leads Bartoli 1-0
Pratt leads Castano 4-0
Pratt leads Craybas 2-1
Pratt leads Tanasugarn 5-3 (Pratt was ranked lower in all of their meetings)
Pratt ties Dementieva 1-1 :bolt:
Pratt leads Farina Elia 3-1 :D
Pratt ties Garbin 2-2
Pratt ties Golovin 1-1 :)
Pratt leads Jankovic 1-1. :hearts:
PRATT LEADS KIRILENKO 3-0. *omg* :haha:
Pratt leads Mirza 1-0
Pratt leads Morigami 3-0
Pratt leads Osterloh 3-0
Pratt ties Pennetta 1-1
Pratt leads Ruano Pascual 2-1
Pratt ties Safina 1-1
Pratt leads Shaughnessy 5-4
Pratt leads Suarez 2-0
Pratt leads Testud 2-1
Pratt ties Sugiyama 5-5, 5-1 before 2003
Pratt leads Tu 4-0
Pratt leads Tulyaganova 2-1
Pratt leads Vakulenko 2-0

AND also, Pratty took Justine to three sets on CLAY. :inlove:

There's so many more I can list but I'm tired now. :) You all need to bowdown. :worship:

Mina Vagante
Apr 12th, 2008, 10:37 AM
Tian Tian Sun vs Serena 1-0 :o

Beny
Apr 12th, 2008, 10:38 AM
Zvonareva leads Schiavone 7-0 :scratch:
Dulko leads Demnentieva 2-0 :o both easy two sets victories

Medina
Apr 12th, 2008, 10:40 AM
Pratty :bowdown: come back!!

janko
Apr 12th, 2008, 10:43 AM
Germana Di Natale leads Mary Pierce : 1/0 (and Mary won the FO on her next tournament)

Petra Begerow - Mary Pierce : 2/0

Caroline Vis - Mary Pierce : 1/0

Eva Martincova - Mary Pierce : 1/0

Anne Kremer - Mary Pierce : 2/1


Oh Mary...!

Slutati
Apr 12th, 2008, 10:54 AM
Chakvetadze-Jankovic 6:3 :weirdo:

Renalicious
Apr 12th, 2008, 10:55 AM
^ Yeah I put that up there in my post ... :)

Slutati
Apr 12th, 2008, 11:02 AM
^ Yeah I put that up there in my post ... :)
:ras:

Renalicious
Apr 12th, 2008, 11:02 AM
:)

kittyking
Apr 12th, 2008, 11:04 AM
Shona Lee vrs Anne Keothavong 1-0 :spit:

Just Do It
Apr 12th, 2008, 11:09 AM
Can anyone do Dokic's h2h 's ? Please.

I know her H2H with Davenport is horrible.

Renalicious
Apr 12th, 2008, 11:14 AM
Ok I know this is off topic but how weird was it that Pratt used to play doubles with SHARAPOVA. *shock: :bolt:

Highlandman
Apr 12th, 2008, 11:47 AM
Can anyone do Dokic's h2h 's ? Please.

I know her H2H with Davenport is horrible.

Dokic - Davenport 0-9
Dokic - V. Williams 1-3
Dokic - Hingis 2-3
Dokic - Henin 1-2
Dokic - S. Williams 0-4
Dokic - Clijsters 3-6
Dokic - Seles 1-4
Dokic - Stevenson 4-4
Dokic - Shaughnessy 4-3
Dokic - Schnyder 4-1
Dokic - Dementieva 5-3
Dokic - Kremer 2-3

roxi
Apr 12th, 2008, 12:15 PM
Šprem - Likhovtseva 4-0
Šprem - Maleeva 2-0
Šprem - Shaughnessy 3-2
Šprem - Hantuchova 2-1
Šprem - Zvonareva 2-1
Šprem - Sugiyama 2-1
Šprem - Dokić 1-0
Šprem - Bartoli 1-0
Šprem - Jankovic 1-1
Šprem - Golovin 1-1
Šprem - Davenport 0-5
Šprem - Clijsters 0-4
Šprem - Suarez 0-4
Šprem - Safina 0-2
Šprem - Myskina 0-2
Šprem - Farina Elia 1-3
Šprem - V.Williams 1-3
Šprem - Kostanić Tošić 1-2

Renalicious
Apr 12th, 2008, 12:49 PM
Does nobody else think it was weird that Pratt and Masha played together for dubs? :o

kwilliams
Apr 12th, 2008, 12:54 PM
V.Williams v. Henin 7-2. :drool:

I'd say that's about right, nothing too weird there.

Declan
Apr 12th, 2008, 12:57 PM
Germana Di Natale leads Mary Pierce : 1/0 (and Mary won the FO on her next tournament)

Petra Begerow - Mary Pierce : 2/0

Caroline Vis - Mary Pierce : 1/0

Eva Martincova - Mary Pierce : 1/0

Anne Kremer - Mary Pierce : 2/1


Oh Mary...!

Mary actually is an inexplicable 0-3 against Begerow. Thankfully her real H2H vs Kremer is now 2-2.

lympyisthebest
Apr 12th, 2008, 01:00 PM
Does nobody else think it was weird that Pratt and Masha played together for dubs? :o

Yup, when did they play together, what tournaments?

DefyingGravity
Apr 12th, 2008, 01:06 PM
Germana Di Natale leads Mary Pierce : 1/0 (and Mary won the FO on her next tournament)

Petra Begerow - Mary Pierce : 2/0

Caroline Vis - Mary Pierce : 1/0

Eva Martincova - Mary Pierce : 1/0

Anne Kremer - Mary Pierce : 2/1


Oh Mary...!

Weird! BTW, I love your profile picture/avatar thing. Love that show!

Matt01
Apr 12th, 2008, 01:51 PM
I'd say that's about right, nothing too weird there.


Expect for it should be the other way round :angel:

tennismaster8820
Apr 12th, 2008, 02:07 PM
Šprem - Likhovtseva 4-0
Šprem - Maleeva 2-0
Šprem - Shaughnessy 3-2
Šprem - Hantuchova 2-1
Šprem - Zvonareva 2-1
Šprem - Sugiyama 2-1
Šprem - Dokić 1-0
Šprem - Bartoli 1-0
Šprem - Jankovic 1-1
Šprem - Golovin 1-1
Šprem - Davenport 0-5
Šprem - Clijsters 0-4
Šprem - Suarez 0-4
Šprem - Safina 0-2
Šprem - Myskina 0-2
Šprem - Farina Elia 1-3
Šprem - V.Williams 1-3
Šprem - Kostanić Tošić 1-2

Šprem - Kuznetsova 1-0
Šprem - S.Williams 0-1

The Dawntreader
Apr 12th, 2008, 02:14 PM
Venus 9-1 over Seles. Venus owned Seles:drool:

And Serena 4-1 over Seles. Monica only had two wins over the Sisters:eek:

danieln1
Apr 12th, 2008, 02:35 PM
Sharapova vs Davenport 5-1, it´s the weirdest one!

InsideOut.
Apr 12th, 2008, 02:36 PM
Wozniacki 2-0 Bartoli 6-2 6-3, 6-3 6-1.

Nothing surprising there, Bartoli is playing like sh*t now.

Shahar leads Ivanovic 2-0 :drool:

I love the Roesch- Dementieva one too.

The H2H of Shahar-Ana is 1-0, not 2-0. The only two players who have played Ana more than once and not lost at least once are Henin and Dementieva, 4-0 and 3-0 respectively.

ivanban
Apr 12th, 2008, 03:03 PM
Mattek, Ani, Dushevina, Poutchkova, Brandi, Gagrialdi, Arn, Widjaja, Zulaga all lead Jankovic 1-0
Schnyder leads Ivanovic 4-3

And now the Pratty section. :worship:
Pratt leads Jankovic 1-1. :hearts:

AND also, Pratty took Justine to three sets on CLAY. :inlove:

There's so many more I can list but I'm tired now. :) You all need to bowdown. :worship:

Mattek leads 2:0 vs. JJ but these matches were from 2003 (tournament in Oyster City :help: ) and 2005 when JJ was pretty much still unknown or average player.
Ani leads JJ, but that one single match is from 2003
JJ leads Dushevina 3:1, I don't know where you found your incorrect info :rolleyes:
Puchkova leeds JJ 1:0 through retirement :rolleyes:
Brandi leads JJ 3:0 :eek: but last match is from 2003 ;)
Gagliardi and JJ also played last time in 2003 ;)
vs. Arn also one and only time in 2003 :rolleyes:
vs. Widjaja played one and only time in 2004 in Bali (which is pretty much home tourny for Widjaja)
Zuluaga actually leads JJ 2:0 :help: but matches were from Fullerton :lol: and 2004 Olympics (again when JJ was unknown or average player)

As far as for Patty leading Ivanovic 4:3, Ana won last 3 matches ;) (latest one 6:0, 6:2)

Does nobody else think it was weird that Pratt and Masha played together for dubs? :o

no, it's weird that Pratt is leading Jankovic 1:1 :rolleyes:

matanuriel
Apr 12th, 2008, 03:30 PM
Nothing surprising there, Bartoli is playing like sh*t now.



The H2H of Shahar-Ana is 1-0, not 2-0. The only two players who have played Ana more than once and not lost at least once are Henin and Dementieva, 4-0 and 3-0 respectively.

That is not quite true. In 2006 Shahar and Ana met for the first time in fed-cup, Ana was a top 20 player back then and Shahar emardged to the scene of world tennis. Shahar won it if I am not mistaken 7-6 in the third. The year after Shahar and Ana met in Gold Coast, and Shahar won once again in 3 sets.
This year Shahar loss to Shaharpova and win over Safina in fed-cup is listed, so I think Shahar win over Ana should be listed too.

Declan
Apr 12th, 2008, 03:36 PM
Mattek leads 2:0 vs. JJ but these matches were from 2003 (tournament in Oyster City :help: ) and 2005 when JJ was pretty much still unknown or average player.
Ani leads JJ, but that one single match is from 2003
JJ leads Dushevina 3:1, I don't know where you found your incorrect info :rolleyes:
Puchkova leeds JJ 1:0 through retirement :rolleyes:
Brandi leads JJ 3:0 :eek: but last match is from 2003 ;)
Gagliardi and JJ also played last time in 2003 ;)
vs. Arn also one and only time in 2003 :rolleyes:
vs. Widjaja played one and only time in 2004 in Bali (which is pretty much home tourny for Widjaja)
Zuluaga actually leads JJ 2:0 :help: but matches were from Fullerton :lol: and 2004 Olympics (again when JJ was unknown or average player)

As far as for Patty leading Ivanovic 4:3, Ana won last 3 matches ;) (latest one 6:0, 6:2)



no, it's weird that Pratt is leading Jankovic 1:1 :rolleyes:

Just because a player was unknown or lowly-ranked for some of their losses doesn't invalidate them, you know! They still happened, and still have to be listed in their head-to-head records.

Renalicious
Apr 12th, 2008, 03:42 PM
JJ leads Dushevina 3:1, I don't know where you found your incorrect info :rolleyes:

no, it's weird that Pratt is leading Jankovic 1:1 :rolleyes:

Err tenniscorner.com? Lol. Not my fault. And I gave info on JJ's H2Hs that were nice, as you just discovered her H2Hs were actually more severe. :lol: I can't believe Bradni leads Jankovic 3-0 :tape: :bolt:

It's not weird? :confused: Pratt doesn't lead, she's tieing. ;) Pratt's a brilliant player anyway.

Robert-KimClijst
Apr 12th, 2008, 03:48 PM
Safarova vs Henin 1-0 :D

Kim leads Hantuchova 9-0. :eek: Daniela has won just one set in those 9 meetings.

sammy01
Apr 12th, 2008, 03:59 PM
Safarova vs Henin 1-0 :D

Kim leads Hantuchova 9-0. :eek: Daniela has won just one set in those 9 meetings.

dont look at danis h2h she has a losing record against just about every top player!

Renalicious
Apr 12th, 2008, 03:59 PM
Yup, when did they play together, what tournaments?

They played together during May 2004 (before she got REALLY famous) but it's still weird I guess.

They played the Berlin Open and reached the in the QF to VRP and Suarez (1st seeds).

It's funny, Pratty also played with Dementieva in Rome where they also lost in the QF.

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/2/players/playerprofiles/PlayerActivity.asp

Pratty was be popular amongst the pretties. Lol.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Apr 12th, 2008, 04:59 PM
Kim leads Hantuchova 9-0. :eek: Daniela has won just one set in those 9 meetings.

In my opinion there is nothing weird here :shrug:

saint2
Apr 12th, 2008, 05:03 PM
In my opinion there is nothing weird here :shrug:

Really hav nothing to do than bashing Dani in every possibillity? :confused:

Il Primo!
Apr 12th, 2008, 05:39 PM
V.Williams v. Henin 7-2. :drool:

I see nothing weird about this scoreline;)

crazillo
Apr 12th, 2008, 05:39 PM
Sharapova and Tanasugarn used to play together, didn't they?

Ellery
Apr 12th, 2008, 05:40 PM
Nicole Pratt leads Maria Kirilenko 3-0 :worship: :hearts:

crazillo
Apr 12th, 2008, 05:42 PM
Mattek leads 2:0 vs. JJ but these matches were from 2003 (tournament in Oyster City :help: ) and 2005 when JJ was pretty much still unknown or average player.
Ani leads JJ, but that one single match is from 2003
JJ leads Dushevina 3:1, I don't know where you found your incorrect info :rolleyes:
Puchkova leeds JJ 1:0 through retirement :rolleyes:
Brandi leads JJ 3:0 :eek: but last match is from 2003 ;)
Gagliardi and JJ also played last time in 2003 ;)
vs. Arn also one and only time in 2003 :rolleyes:
vs. Widjaja played one and only time in 2004 in Bali (which is pretty much home tourny for Widjaja)
Zuluaga actually leads JJ 2:0 :help: but matches were from Fullerton :lol: and 2004 Olympics (again when JJ was unknown or average player)

As far as for Patty leading Ivanovic 4:3, Ana won last 3 matches ;) (latest one 6:0, 6:2)



no, it's weird that Pratt is leading Jankovic 1:1 :rolleyes:

Firstly, it's still Jelena Jankovic who stepped onto the court and played against these girls.
Also, in 2005 she was top-20, which is far from "unkown"...
I admit some of these players would probably lose against her now, but you should not "forget" or excuse count losses against other players with a comment like "she was still average".

Ellery
Apr 12th, 2008, 05:43 PM
Does nobody else think it was weird that Pratt and Masha played together for dubs? :o

:eek: Why couldn't Pratty get a better partner :confused: :p

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Apr 12th, 2008, 05:46 PM
Really hav nothing to do than bashing Dani in every possibillity? :confused:


A serious question ... Are you a mug ?


Just saying that I don´t find weird this particular serie Kim - Hantuchova or you don´t know what won Kim in her career in comparison to Hantuchova?

Elenarulez
Apr 12th, 2008, 06:22 PM
Now the best of all:

ALEXANDRA STEVENSON leads Jennifer Capriati 3:2

crazillo
Apr 12th, 2008, 06:26 PM
Brie Whitehead-Roger Federer 0:0

They are effectively tied!! :eek:

Dodoboy.
Apr 12th, 2008, 06:28 PM
Can we have some Dani ones :drool:

starin
Apr 12th, 2008, 06:41 PM
Can we have some Dani ones :drool:

Hantuchova:

v. S. William 1-6
v. V. Williams 0-9
v. Henin 2-3
v. Mauresmo 2-3
v. Davenport 0-7
v. Sharapova 1-7
v. Kuznetsova 4-6

total H2H v. active slam champions

10-38


actually her H2H is not that bad.

Archer16
Apr 12th, 2008, 08:34 PM
That is not quite true. In 2006 Shahar and Ana met for the first time in fed-cup, Ana was a top 20 player back then and Shahar emardged to the scene of world tennis. Shahar won it if I am not mistaken 7-6 in the third. The year after Shahar and Ana met in Gold Coast, and Shahar won once again in 3 sets.
This year Shahar loss to Shaharpova and win over Safina in fed-cup is listed, so I think Shahar win over Ana should be listed too.
http://www.fedcup.com/ties/tie.asp?tie=100007825
It was Shahar's first top 20 win in an unbelievable tie that decided the round-robin.
But for some reason only the World Groups ties are listed in the WTA site.

Obziler - Na Li 1-0
but H2Hs that are based on one match aren't that special.

Dodoboy.
Apr 12th, 2008, 08:39 PM
Hantuchova:

v. S. William 1-6
v. V. Williams 0-9
v. Henin 2-3
v. Mauresmo 2-3
v. Davenport 0-7
v. Sharapova 1-7
v. Kuznetsova 4-6

total H2H v. active slam champions

10-38


actually her H2H is not that bad.

Thanks :)

Lindsay and Venus :rocker:

Tennisstar86
Apr 12th, 2008, 08:41 PM
I see nothing weird about this scoreline;)

Should be 9-0 ;)

anyways... Davenport leads Venus 14-13 for whoever stated that...but this isnt shocking either considering they've had the "best" rivalry over the past decade...

roxi
Apr 12th, 2008, 10:32 PM
Šprem - Kuznetsova 1-0
Šprem - S.Williams 0-1
Yeah!!! And Henin 0-1

AnnaK_4ever
Apr 12th, 2008, 11:13 PM
Hantuchova:

v. S. William 1-6
v. V. Williams 0-9
v. Henin 2-3
v. Mauresmo 2-3
v. Davenport 0-7
v. Sharapova 1-7
v. Kuznetsova 4-6

total H2H v. active slam champions

10-41


actually her H2H is not that bad.

vs Kuznetsova (4-6), Hingis (3-2), Martinez (3-3) - 10-11

vs Serena (1-6), Venus (0-9), Davenport (0-7), Capriati (0-2), Seles (0-1), Henin (2-3), Clijsters (0-9), Mauresmo (2-3), Pierce (0-1), Sharapova (1-7), Myskina (0-2) - 6-50

total - 16-61 -- an Ok record.

darrinbaker00
Apr 12th, 2008, 11:44 PM
You actually did follow her. :eek: :lol: I thought you were just making fun of the name. ;) :angel:
Even before I found out about the name, I followed Yung-Jan after that idiot from USA Network made a snide remark about Serena's earrings costing more than Yung-Jan's career earnings (Serena should have decked him). I did a little research, I found out about the name and the website, and I've been a fan ever since. I'm still :scratch: over the name, because it's not common at all outside of African-American neighborhoods. Do you know how she came up with it?

markdelaney
Apr 12th, 2008, 11:58 PM
Jo Durie v Steffi Graf 4-3
Stevenson v Capriati 3-2

VeeJJ
Apr 13th, 2008, 12:41 AM
Jankovic is 2-0 against Hingis

Marionated
Apr 13th, 2008, 12:44 AM
Hingis leads Sanchez Vicario 18-2... and Seles 15-5!

Sir Stefwhit
Apr 13th, 2008, 01:50 AM
None of the 0-1 records surprise me because anyone can have a bad day. A 0-1 (or 1-0) in my book is rendered meaningless, it doesn't give any kind of meaningful insight into how players actually match up with one another.

The two that really stood out to me as peculiar were the Seles-Davenport and the Hingis/Seles H2Hs. I never understood Hingis' domination of Seles, to be honest even to this day I don't get it. It's almost equally surprising how much trouble Seles had with Davenport. If anything I would've thought they were evenly matched, but Davenport really had her way with Seles.

sammy01
Apr 13th, 2008, 02:05 AM
None of the 0-1 records surprise me because anyone can have a bad day. A 0-1 (or 1-0) in my book is rendered meaningless, it doesn't give any kind of meaningful insight into how players actually match up with one another.

The two that really stood out to me as peculiar were the Seles-Davenport and the Hingis/Seles H2Hs. I never understood Hingis' domination of Seles, to be honest even to this day I don't get it. It's almost equally surprising how much trouble Seles had with Davenport. If anything I would've thought they were evenly matched, but Davenport really had her way with Seles.

the 3 matches seles won against davenport she saved match points in all 3 lol, so in theory davenport was 1 point away from having a perfect record vs seles.

linds seles
Apr 13th, 2008, 02:12 AM
Venus 9-1 over Seles. Venus owned Seles:drool:

And Serena 4-1 over Seles. Monica only had two wins over the Sisters:eek:

Yeah, it's similar ro monica's records against Lindsay(3-10) and Martina(5-15).

All of these matches cam after Monica's peak, so IMO, they mean virtually nothing. Put Monica in her prime against any of these four, and in my opinion, the head to heads would be reversed.

And yes, Moica might be my fave, but Lindsay is my third, Martina fourth and Serena fith, so I could hardly be called biased.

linds seles
Apr 13th, 2008, 02:20 AM
I don't find these surprising, as an Anna fan, and because unlike people who barel watch the game, or have been doing so for just a few years, here are Anna K's.

Leads Capriati 3-1.
Leads Snachez-Vicario 3-2.
Leads Hantuchova 2-0.
Leads Scnyder 4-1.
Trails Clijsters 1-6.
Trails Davenport 3-7.
Trails Henin 0-4.
Trails Hingis 1-11.
Trails V Williams 0-8.
Trails S Williams 0-2.
Trails Seles 1-5.
Trails Graf 1-2.
Trails Mauresmo 1-2.
Trails Martinez 3-5.

So apart from the first four, her head to heads aren't great, but at least she has wins over most of them. Her records against lindsay and Martinez are pretty respectable. She's also taken ses from Serena and Venus. Her record against Henin is qite abysmal, having never taken a set.

Declan
Apr 13th, 2008, 04:13 AM
I don't find these surprising, as an Anna fan, and because unlike people who barel watch the game, or have been doing so for just a few years, here are Anna K's.

Leads Capriati 3-1.
Leads Snachez-Vicario 3-2.
Leads Hantuchova 2-0.
Leads Scnyder 4-1.
Trails Clijsters 1-6.
Trails Davenport 3-7.
Trails Henin 0-4.
Trails Hingis 1-11.
Trails V Williams 0-8.
Trails S Williams 0-2.
Trails Seles 1-5.
Trails Graf 1-2.
Trails Mauresmo 1-2.
Trails Martinez 3-5.

So apart from the first four, her head to heads aren't great, but at least she has wins over most of them. Her records against lindsay and Martinez are pretty respectable. She's also taken ses from Serena and Venus. Her record against Henin is qite abysmal, having never taken a set.


Against Mary Pierce: 0-2.

linds seles
Apr 13th, 2008, 04:18 AM
Against Mary Pierce: 0-2.

Sorry, I forgot about Mary. :rolleyes:

Were either of the matches close? I remember they palyed at The Australian Open one year, can't remem
ber the score though.

Sir Stefwhit
Apr 13th, 2008, 06:03 AM
All of these matches cam after Monica's peak, so IMO, they mean virtually nothing. Put Monica in her prime against any of these four, and in my opinion, the head to heads would be reversed.
If you're familiar with Monica's H2H, I'm wondering if her record before and after her return made a difference with the players she played prior to leaving the tour?

In other words, were the players that she was beating before the stabbing still the players she was beating after the stabbing?

If the answer is yes, then it would be hard to assume that there was any significant drop in her level of play, especially since she was still beating all the same players. The logic would go; If she was good enough to beat all the players she used to always beat, then she must have at least been just as good as she was before. We could always argue that Monica being out didn't have the benefit to progressively get better, as most players do at similar points in their careers, but taking that into account wouldn't make it any more likely for her to have a better record against those opponents (Hingis, Venus, Davenport, and Serena) when you say the old Monica would have faired better against them.

On the other hand, if there were a string of players she routinely beat before the stabbing but could no longer beat after the stabbing, then we could look at that as evidence that the 'New' Monica couldn't be fairly compared to the 'Old' Monica.

We should keep in mind that after being out for a couple of years Monica came back to win her very first tournament and then went onto to make the finals of her very first Slam- if she wasn't the old Monica, she couldn't have been that far off from the old one. She did manage to bring her ranking back up to #3 and I still believe if she would have got in better shape she would have definitely gotten her #1 ranking back.

It'll be interesting to look at some of her stats with the players she had an established history with- both before and after.

floriano
Apr 13th, 2008, 06:17 AM
I think one player Monica started having difficulties with after her comeback was Novotna. She used to beat Novotna routinely before, but I think after her comeback she lost 2 of 3 matches against Novotna. Those two losses were at fairly significant events, one was her Roland Garros comeback (I think) and the other was an 8-6 in the 3rd loss at the Atlanta Olympics.

RND
Apr 13th, 2008, 06:20 AM
Even before I found out about the name, I followed Yung-Jan after that idiot from USA Network made a snide remark about Serena's earrings costing more than Yung-Jan's career earnings (Serena should have decked him). I did a little research, I found out about the name and the website, and I've been a fan ever since. I'm still :scratch: over the name, because it's not common at all outside of African-American neighborhoods. Do you know how she came up with it?
I remember that. :lol:

I know nothing how she came up with that actually.And as a Taiwanese I didn't even notice there's anything so funny in the name untill Charleston last year. ;)

Here's a clue from Dav's AI report:
The next player I saw was Yung-Jan Chan who was practicing with her French coach on a back court. Her mom was sitting in a chair on an outside court and started to chat with her. I must say that she had to have been the nicest person I met all day. We talked for around 30 min, or at least tried, as her English was not the best. :) She did give me a lot of information, though, and was a joy to talk to. She even gave me Chinese lessons. :lol: When I told her that I was a big fan of Chan she went and got her daughter and asked her to sign an autograph for me. She was an extremely sweet girl, but also very shy. When I sat back down her mom told me a bit more about Chan. She even told me about her English name, "Latisha," obviously not knowing its WTAWorld famosity. She said that Asian players call her Yung-Jan while the Americans call her Latisha. It was a cute story and I was really glad I had met both of them. Before I left, though, she asked if I would like a picture with "Latisha" and of course I said yes.

Unfortunately she took it on my phone so I can't share it with you all. It was one of the best parts of the day, for sure.
I guess it has something to do with her personality,or like she had some American friends calling her Latisha for fun,like a nickname.So she started to use it. :lol:

Jakeev
Apr 13th, 2008, 07:43 AM
AND also, Pratty took Justine to three sets on CLAY. :inlove:


Pratt actually has an early career win over Justine. It was at a Challenger event in Midland in 1999. Nicole won in three sets.

Renalicious
Apr 13th, 2008, 08:53 AM
Oh really, wow. But I still think three sets on clay when Justine was already in the Top 5 was more impressive.

crazillo
Apr 13th, 2008, 09:31 AM
I think one player Monica started having difficulties with after her comeback was Novotna. She used to beat Novotna routinely before, but I think after her comeback she lost 2 of 3 matches against Novotna. Those two losses were at fairly significant events, one was her Roland Garros comeback (I think) and the other was an 8-6 in the 3rd loss at the Atlanta Olympics.

Routinely is actually not correct, the AO final was three sets and the second and third set weren't as clear as the score. ;)
They actually had really great matches. Some of them are on youtube. They didn't meet very often and usually just at big events. It was a very interesting rivarly and more matches should have happened...

BTW, Jana absolutely OWNED Venus. They had great matches and I know Venus got better in like 1999/2000 when Jana stopped, but don't forget Jana was a top player back then and Venus already top 10. They had good matches but Venus had lots of trouble with Jana's style. Later, she also didn't like to play Tauziat that much, just that Jana was by far the better player.

Bruno71
Apr 13th, 2008, 09:39 AM
Dechy-Kuznetsova 3-3

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/2/players/playerprofiles/playerheadtoheaddetail.asp?PlayerID=40254&Player1ID=110552&x=1&y=5

Of course, Sveta has turned that strange 1-3 disadvantage around this year...

rucolo
May 18th, 2014, 08:52 PM
Hercog - Koukalova 7-0

Very weird. Klara is the better player :unsure:

Little Dreamer
May 18th, 2014, 08:59 PM
Serena/Maria: 16-2

although Serena clearly is the better player, I find it so weird a great champion like Pova can lose 15 times in a row to someone. I mean, even players like Cepelova snuck a win within the past decade :help:

Jankovic/Henin: 0-10

Like...she couldn't catch her ONCE?!

Sammo
May 18th, 2014, 09:06 PM
Hingis / Sanchez-Vicario 18-2 :oh: It's funny because Martina only has one Slam more than Arantxa, but was miles better than her anyway.

salmon pants.
May 18th, 2014, 09:15 PM
They've only played twice, but Niculescu's double trouncing of Lucie Safarova should be used as primary example of tennis being a battle of match-ups. They played in 2011, and 2012, and Niculescu won 6-1, 6-0 and 6-2, 6-0. The former being a 3R match at the US Open.

MalJackson
May 18th, 2014, 09:26 PM
radwanska 7-0 vs bartoli surprises me

MalJackson
May 18th, 2014, 09:27 PM
They've only played twice, but Niculescu's double trouncing of Lucie Safarova should be used as primary example of tennis being a battle of match-ups. They played in 2011, and 2012, and Niculescu won 6-1, 6-0 and 6-2, 6-0. The former being a 3R match at the US Open.

yes completely agree, others who suffer vs niculescus game are lisicki- georges -hradecka- barthel

MalJackson
May 18th, 2014, 09:31 PM
poor patty

venus 11-0

http://www.itftennis.com/procircuit/players/head-to-head/result.aspx?player1=20005009&player2=20006783

TNT96
May 18th, 2014, 11:27 PM
Bammer 2-0 versus Serena

jameshazza
May 18th, 2014, 11:40 PM
IDK if it's been mentioned but the Davenport Masha H2H I've always found strange, not so much the total but just that the sole win Lindsay managed happened to be a double bagel.

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Aryman3
May 19th, 2014, 07:02 AM
Cetkovska vs A.Radwanska 4:0