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SV_Fan
Apr 10th, 2008, 02:19 PM
Nikolay is probably the least recgonized in the top 5 on the ATP tour. He's reached the semi-finals at all slams. Very good player. But even last year at #4 he gave Roger Federer a run for his money in the Semis of the US Open and he still did not have a clothing contract!!!!! So who on the WTA tour is like him.

I would say Chakvetadze.

DA FOREHAND
Apr 10th, 2008, 02:25 PM
Jj

rockstar
Apr 10th, 2008, 02:29 PM
kuznetsova?

goldenlox
Apr 10th, 2008, 02:30 PM
He has a clothing deal with Airness, and he gets in a lot of Prince ads

beriadan
Apr 10th, 2008, 02:32 PM
Kuznetsova.

jonny84
Apr 10th, 2008, 02:34 PM
It probably is Kuznetsova, although she has won a grand slam and Davydenko has not got one yet. Kuzzy has even lamented how at the US Open people don't recognise her and ask her who she is!!!

cellophane
Apr 10th, 2008, 02:37 PM
Chakvetadze. More people definitely know Kuznetsova.

Renalicious
Apr 10th, 2008, 02:38 PM
Chakvetadze definitely!

SV_Fan
Apr 10th, 2008, 02:40 PM
He has a clothing deal with Airness, and he gets in a lot of Prince ads

He got that contract earlier this year. He should have been had one. He's a really good player.

Paris75
Apr 10th, 2008, 02:41 PM
I would say Petrova, she's got the same attitude on the court and she was not very well-known when she was in the TOP 3.

Expat
Apr 10th, 2008, 02:41 PM
Chakvetadze. More people definitely know Kuznetsova.

chakvetadze is pretty
if u r comparing to davydenko kuzzy is a more appropriate choice
in terms of looks and on court personality

HenryMag.
Apr 10th, 2008, 02:42 PM
Davydenko never reached semis in AO or Wimby.

I would say Kuznetsova.

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 10th, 2008, 02:45 PM
Chakvetadze.
Like Davydenko she has a on-court personality and entertainment value of an orange.

sammy01
Apr 10th, 2008, 02:45 PM
serena? because shes so shy and retiring lol, erm well my anna chakvetadze is very new to the top of tennis so most people are only seeing her for the 1st time. as for sveta i think most people dont know/forgot shes a grand slam champion (i mean casual fans not ones that post on a tennis forum lol), i guess sveta alothough being up there is not realy up there, if you get what i mean.

clementine
Apr 10th, 2008, 02:47 PM
Kuznetsova. Both dull as dirt.

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 10th, 2008, 02:48 PM
chakvetadze is pretty
if u r comparing to davydenko kuzzy is a more appropriate choice
in terms of looks and on court personality

Kuzzy has an oncourt personality.
She's doing splits here and there, using her game to bring things out of her opponents to beat her.

Chakvetadze just bores players with her constant change of grips, constant change of the pace of the ball, and sloppy movement.

brickhousesupporter
Apr 10th, 2008, 02:53 PM
Jelena Jankovic

Both have nice ground games and not to amazing serves. Althought Nikolay served amazingly during Miami. They both consistently get deep into the draws but never really win against top players.

Optima
Apr 10th, 2008, 02:54 PM
I never understood why people pick on Nikolay's game as being boring. Did you guys not watch the Miami final where he whipped Nadal? He was absolutely on fire.

RenaSlam.
Apr 10th, 2008, 02:54 PM
Jankovic or Anna C.

SAEKeithSerena
Apr 10th, 2008, 02:57 PM
Kuznetsova.

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 10th, 2008, 02:58 PM
I never understood why people pick on Nikolay's game as being boring. Did you guys not watch the Miami final where he whipped Nadal? He was absolutely on fire.

He pretty much hits the same ball ALL the time.
There's not much variety. He hovers at that baseline and acts like a backboard.

Yes he played a bit out of character against Nadal, but I think it has to do more with his new racket and him hitting so flat with an angle that was getting to Nadal more than anything.

Sefo
Apr 10th, 2008, 03:41 PM
I dare to say Henin. Both tennis and size. And ofcourse, modesty.

Pureracket
Apr 10th, 2008, 03:48 PM
The USO semi score was, 7-5 6-1 7-5. Is this really considered giving a Fed a run for his money?

Cp6uja
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:08 PM
According to stupid season shedule (playing almost every week) - Jelena Jankovic
According to career h2h results (bad against real TOP players, very good against all others) - Svetlana Kuznetsova
According to unique game style - Anna Chakvetadze (he in ATP, she in WTA)
According to connections with gambling mafia - Tatiana Poutchek
According to his marketing value - Sesil Karantancheva (thankfull to gambling cheating)
According to off-court profit - Maria Sharapova (thankfull to gambling cheating)
According to Martina Hingis - Amelie Mauresmo (one half)

Poova
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:10 PM
Kuznetsova. Both dull as dirt.
Sveta is not dull. :shrug:

Chakvetadze, however, sends me to sleep. :zzz:

joćo.
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:24 PM
Sveta.

MrSerenaWilliams
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:25 PM
Kuznetvedaze :shrug:

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:28 PM
He pretty much hits the same ball ALL the time.
There's not much variety. He hovers at that baseline and acts like a backboard.

Yes he played a bit out of character against Nadal, but I think it has to do more with his new racket and him hitting so flat with an angle that was getting to Nadal more than anything.

LMAO :rolleyes:
that how he ALWAYS plays :weirdo:
go back to watching someone who is a backboard ----->> Roddick

Ellery
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:29 PM
Sveta. Both don't really get the recognition they deserve, and both have a great sense of humor :worship:

Langers
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:30 PM
Nikolay is probably the least recgonized in the top 5 on the ATP tour. He's reached the semi-finals at all slams. Very good player. But even last year at #4 he gave Roger Federer a run for his money in the Semis of the US Open and he still did not have a clothing contract!!!!! So who on the WTA tour is like him.

I would say Chakvetadze.
Agreed. The thing they have in common is that they're both rubbish.

SV_Fan
Apr 10th, 2008, 05:01 PM
I think Chakvetadze still. She top 10 and she is not know that well. I mean Marion Bartoli is waayyyyy popular than her for different reasons but still. I think its Anna C.

Dexter
Apr 10th, 2008, 05:02 PM
It used to be Petrova, they were just so alike. Right now it's difficult to find comparison... maybe Chak, but she sucks this year and Kolya doesn't.

cypher_88
Apr 10th, 2008, 05:20 PM
Jj

cn ireland
Apr 10th, 2008, 05:26 PM
Jankovic. She's a good player that is consistent in every tournament but hasn't made the breakthrough at a Grand Slam as of yet.

Serenidad.
Apr 10th, 2008, 06:48 PM
Davydenko never reached semis in AO or Wimby.

I would say Kuznetsova.

JJ plays week in week out. Prince Racquet, Grinding Style of Play. Both don't really serve hard just baseline rally.

Max565
Apr 10th, 2008, 06:50 PM
Immediately I thought of Kuzzy. :p

kolan
Apr 10th, 2008, 06:53 PM
my first thought was dementieva with the way that they can lose quite badly in some tournies and then go to win tier 1's. admittedley, Dementieva has done better in slams and Davydenko is higher in the rankings but i see a comparison at least :p

Simplicity.
Apr 10th, 2008, 07:09 PM
JJ plays week in week out. Prince Racquet, Grinding Style of Play. Both don't really serve hard just baseline rally.

Did you see him in Miami at all?

pancake
Apr 10th, 2008, 07:29 PM
Agreed. The thing they have in common is that they're both rubbish.

I am surprised you don't know they are not rubbish... I mean you are rubbish yourself I think you must know if one is rubbish accordingly.
Oh I forgot rubbish like you doesn't have a brain.

DownTheLine21
Apr 10th, 2008, 07:41 PM
Immediately I thought of Kuzzy. :p

I did as well.

missvarsha
Apr 10th, 2008, 08:15 PM
My first reaction was to say Jankovic, based on the play every week factor (LoL), but really she is building a reputation as somewhat of a personality off the court, and her general swings between cheerfulness and drama queeniness on court as well are miles apart from Davydenko.
Now, Davy unfortunately is one of those players, who despite having a complete solid game, lacks "Star Quality". And this is not a criticism of him, its just something that some people have and some don't. For example, Agassi has had lesser success than Sampras over the course of their careers - but no one can argue that Agassi isn't the bigger star, and always was. He just HAD it, and Sampras just...didn't.

Based on that, I would have to say it is Chakvetadze. Now I have seen her play, and I've seen her interviews and each time I'm just like...eh, who cares ? She can keep winning tournaments and flitting between #5 and #6 but sorry, is just completely forgettable to me.

Carsten
Apr 10th, 2008, 08:21 PM
Petrova, without a doubt. Both russian, both boring as hell, both the same sponsor...

dybbuk
Apr 10th, 2008, 08:22 PM
He pretty much hits the same ball ALL the time.
There's not much variety. He hovers at that baseline and acts like a backboard.

Yes he played a bit out of character against Nadal, but I think it has to do more with his new racket and him hitting so flat with an angle that was getting to Nadal more than anything.

So how many times have you watched him before? Once or twice is my guess. :lol:

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 10th, 2008, 08:24 PM
LMAO :rolleyes:
that how he ALWAYS plays :weirdo:
go back to watching someone who is a backboard ----->> Roddick

Yes because someone with a slice with bite on it, a forehand with some wicked spin, and a backhand he can now flatten out with better net awareness is such a backboard. :lol:

I didn't even have to mention the serve.

No. He plays that way against Nadal, most of the top ten players, he's awful against.
But defend the cheater, see if I care.

shrOOf
Apr 10th, 2008, 08:26 PM
Petrova.

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 10th, 2008, 08:30 PM
So how many times have you watched him before? Once or twice is my guess. :lol:

As many times as he's on my TV.
So last year I saw him in China, Paris, Moscow, Davis Cup, US Open
New Haven (where he was almost outplayed by Donald young), Cincy (where he got crushed by James Blake), Roland Garros, Hamburg, Rome (where he gave Nadal a scare but he wouldn't dare leave that baseline), Australian Open.

dybbuk
Apr 10th, 2008, 08:33 PM
As many times as he's on my TV.
So last year I saw him in China, Paris, Moscow, Davis Cup, US Open
New Haven (where he was almost outplayed by Donald young), Cincy (where he got crushed by James Blake), Roland Garros, Hamburg, Rome (where he gave Nadal a scare but he wouldn't dare leave that baseline), Australian Open.

Oh, good. Then you know he has one of the most potent baseline games on the ATP. :)

As for Andy's "better net awareness", I'm sure that was a fact when Nikolay passed him at will and was better at net than him in their Miami match.

Jankovic is who comes to mind, regarding the topic.

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 10th, 2008, 08:40 PM
Oh, good. Then you know he has one of the most potent baseline games on the ATP. :)

As for Andy's "better net awareness", I'm sure that was a fact when Nikolay passed him at will and was better at net than him in their Miami match.

Jankovic is who comes to mind, regarding the topic.

As I said on MTF, this was the only chance Davydenko will ever get to beat Andy.
Andy was on cloud 9 after beating Federer, he had nowhere to go but down.
This is a player Andy beat around on clay 5 years ago.
When Andy kicks your ass on clay, you're going to have to hope intangibles become a factor in a match, which they did.

And I wouldn't call him potent with his record against the top 10.

danieln1
Apr 10th, 2008, 08:42 PM
Chakvetadze, and maybe Sveta...

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 10th, 2008, 08:45 PM
As I said on MTF, this was the only chance Davydenko will ever get to beat Andy.
Andy was on cloud 9 after beating Federer, he had nowhere to go but down.
This is a player Andy beat around on clay 5 years ago.
When Andy kicks your ass on clay, you're going to have to hope intangibles become a factor in a match, which they did.

And I wouldn't call him potent with his record against the top 10.


Kolya 5 yrs ago wasnt even 1/100 of the player he is now
so no big deal

Kolya will beat Ducky again and again :p

Simplicity.
Apr 10th, 2008, 09:06 PM
No. He plays that way against Nadal, most of the top ten players, he's awful against.
But defend the cheater, see if I care.

This is the first Ive heard of him being a cheater, how is he a cheater exactly?

Slutiana
Apr 10th, 2008, 09:09 PM
According to stupid season shedule (playing almost every week) - Jelena Jankovic
According to career h2h results (bad against real TOP players, very good against all others) - Svetlana Kuznetsova
According to unique game style - Anna Chakvetadze (he in ATP, she in WTA)
According to connections with gambling mafia - Tatiana Poutchek
According to his marketing value - Sesil Karantancheva (thankfull to gambling cheating)
According to off-court profit - Maria Sharapova (thankfull to gambling cheating)
According to Martina Hingis - Amelie Mauresmo (one half)

:weirdo:

skanky~skanketta
Apr 11th, 2008, 01:04 AM
Davydenko and Federer and probably the least charismatic people in the top 5. Davydenko more so than Federer.

svetaisthebest
Apr 11th, 2008, 06:33 AM
Kuznetsova. Both dull as dirt.

:rolleyes::mad::p

LudwigDvorak
Apr 11th, 2008, 06:51 AM
I'm surprised only one said Dementieva. Both are baseline grinders with little variety in their ground games, and I don't really care what any Davydenko fan says--he makes his bread and butter hitting flat baseline winners, not doing anything else. Although he did display a better variety, especially at net, in Miami. But also like Dementieva he can just win a huge tournament like this out nowhere then lose 1R next week.

She's had the better career, I guess, and she's much more popular, but game wise they're fairly similar. But yeah, Kuznetsova, Petrova, Chakvetadze, Dementieva, he's just like all the Russian chicks.

*Jean*
Apr 11th, 2008, 07:05 AM
Petrova is the Davydenko of WTA about me, without any doubt...

Bartosh
Apr 11th, 2008, 07:35 AM
Petrova, Kuznetsova, Dementieva, Chakvetadze...

Harvs
Apr 11th, 2008, 07:41 AM
i would say its kuznetsova easily... she receives no attentions despite being a top 5 consistent player... exact same thing

Keadz
Apr 11th, 2008, 08:40 AM
Jankovic mostly because of their game(Good defence)...the amount of major tournament success they have had with their rankings...which have quite similar for sometime. But personality wise very different

Ben.
Apr 11th, 2008, 08:52 AM
I can't believe that people are saying sveta :o as if :rolleyes: her personality is nothing like davydenko's & thats the same with their style of play.

Just because sveta doesn't get a lot more attention than the williams sisters or sharapova doesn't mean that she's like a davydenko of the WTA. sveta would be more popular than him by a few notches.

but that is my opinion & I think that petrova or chakvetadze would be the davydenko of the WTA.

skanky~skanketta
Apr 11th, 2008, 08:58 AM
Lol! Nobody wants their faves to be like Davydenko!

SV_Fan
Apr 11th, 2008, 02:05 PM
Why petrova?

Brett.
Apr 11th, 2008, 02:25 PM
Martina Hingis

bwahahahahaha
Apr 11th, 2008, 02:29 PM
Martina Hingis

:weirdo:

SV_Fan
Apr 11th, 2008, 02:58 PM
Not Martina

Vamos.
Apr 11th, 2008, 03:12 PM
Chakvetadze.
Like Davydenko she has a on-court personality and entertainment value of an orange.

Which orange are you referring to? 'Coz if I was that orange I would be so pissed right now :fiery:

:lol::yeah:

Chakvetadze=dull,dull,dull. (except Fed Cup) She is the "Davydenko" of the WTA, for sure.

Except at least Davydenko was involved in an off-court scandal so people can at least have some sort of opinion on him; maybe Chak should go and rob a bank? :shrug:

Vamos.
Apr 11th, 2008, 03:20 PM
According to stupid season shedule (playing almost every week) - Jelena Jankovic
According to career h2h results (bad against real TOP players, very good against all others) - Svetlana Kuznetsova
According to unique game style - Anna Chakvetadze (he in ATP, she in WTA)
According to connections with gambling mafia - Tatiana Poutchek
According to his marketing value - Sesil Karantancheva (thankfull to gambling cheating)
According to off-court profit - Maria Sharapova (thankfull to gambling cheating)
According to Martina Hingis - Amelie Mauresmo (one half)

Oh. Maybe you need to re-check who are the real TOP players.

Look at her H2H with Serena, Venus and Sharapova. Who, along with Henin, make up the "real TOP players".


No, not Ivanovic. She is Slamless. No, not Jankovic. She can't win a tournament.

The real ELITE of this game or the "real TOP players" as you so put it are indeed Henin, Sharapova, Serena and Venus.

Yep, her H2H with Henin is AWFUL; lets put it down to being a bogey player for her.

Just look at the Serena/Venus/Sharapova H2H...then you can come back and edit your post.:rolleyes:

Diogenovna
Apr 11th, 2008, 04:49 PM
Hantuchova - both tall, thin, blondy and quiet.

frenchie
Apr 11th, 2008, 04:52 PM
LOL at those saying ANNA C is boring

Actually her game is one of the most surprising in the top 10
She has all the shots

and she can be feisty on court

BuTtErFrEnA
Apr 11th, 2008, 05:58 PM
jj

TennisGuy21
Apr 11th, 2008, 06:49 PM
If I was to base this off of the WAY HE HITS THE BALL, and compare it to a female, I have to say Lindsay Davenport- only Davy MOVES!!!! lol, but the groundies- are crisp, and to those lines.

Ellery
Apr 11th, 2008, 08:28 PM
Kolya has a great personality :shrug: Being compared to him shouldn't be the ultimate insult :shrug:

friendsita
Apr 11th, 2008, 09:50 PM
I would say Petrova, she's got the same attitude on the court and she was not very well-known when she was in the TOP 3.

Was about to say the same thing, deff petrova, they both are shockers!

MakarovaFan
Apr 11th, 2008, 11:59 PM
Chakvetadze no doubt......1)both are small,thin inconspicious non tennis looking 'players'; 2)both feed off pace and can do alot with the ball but are not close to being considered big hitters; 3)both are non descript,'russian' looking people(though anna is actually very pretty and highly underrated,but on court she looks so blah and frumpy)with no personality and are very unknown to the general public; 4)both are very emotionless and tend to always look very hard and stern; 5)both have beaten every one BUT two top players(Davy never been close with roger and JUST beat andy who owned him;anna hasnt made a dent against justine and is owned by Maria)

Morrissey
Apr 12th, 2008, 12:42 AM
I disagree about Petrova she's just not as good as Davydenko. I think Kuznetsova is similar to Davydenko they go far in the slams and regular events but rarely win the titles.

SV_Fan
Apr 12th, 2008, 12:46 AM
I think Anna C. She is just not that popular. People dont talk about her there are lots of girls ranked wayy lower than her who are more famous.

Pasta-Na
Apr 12th, 2008, 12:57 AM
Nikolay is probably the least recgonized in the top 5 on the ATP tour. He's reached the semi-finals at all slams. Very good player. But even last year at #4 he gave Roger Federer a run for his money in the Semis of the US Open and he still did not have a clothing contract!!!!! So who on the WTA tour is like him.

I would say Chakvetadze.

no way, i think everyone knows him after the news of "gambling". :p

davidmario
Apr 12th, 2008, 01:00 AM
Jj