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Cam'ron Giles
Apr 10th, 2008, 03:16 AM
;)

Volcana
Apr 10th, 2008, 03:24 AM
Yes, but not a LOT more exciting. In fact, after the Serena-Henin QF, it was Serena showing vulnerability that made the tournament interesting. That and ARod beating Fedex.

SAEKeithSerena
Apr 10th, 2008, 03:49 AM
are you kidding me? WITHOUT A DOUBT.

kittyking
Apr 10th, 2008, 03:51 AM
Lets think about

IW: Marina lost in first round of qualies (even bageled!)
Miami: Reaches 3rd round

Miami was way more exciting :p

frontier
Apr 10th, 2008, 03:57 AM
Miami by far,everybody was there and whoever won has the most satisfaction.I dont remember who won at IW....:p

AcesHigh
Apr 10th, 2008, 03:58 AM
The seeds in the bottom half didn't live up to expectations.

There were bigger matchups at Miami though: Justine-SErena, Venus-Kuzy, Serena-Kuzy, Jelena-Serena.

The quality of the matches in either one weren't amazing though.

Dunlop1
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:10 AM
Well let's see

IW
Fish beating Federer handily was pretty big.
Kuzy slaying Pova after Pova declared IW her home was :lol:
Ivanovic (WTA's next hottie) getting another title

Miami
Federer getting beaten by Roddick who has lost to him like 12 time in a row was :eek:
Davydenko playing AMAZING tennis and schooling Nadal in the final to win Miami was :drool::bounce:
Serena dropping only 2 games en route to destroying Henin was :sad:
As someone else said bigger matchups Serena-Justine QF (AGAIN!!!), Kuzy-Venus, Serena-Kuzy

I would say Miami was more exciting.

Serenidad.
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:18 AM
When Dramarena is on the court the excitement factor is +19.77.

When Dramarena plays Jankobitch in a game of "how much drama do I have to create to outdrama you?" the excitement factor is +29.83.

Yes.

Hardiansf
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:23 AM
It's not even a contest.
Miami is in the different league. Only Slams, YEC, and Olympic could have the same, or ..yes... better, excitement as Miami.

StarDuvallGrant
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:28 AM
What I could actually get on tv was good.

OrdinaryfoolisNJ
Apr 10th, 2008, 06:22 AM
What I could actually get on tv was good.

The lack of serious TV coverage (of the women in particular) cut down the excitement factor for both tournaments for me. Its been fun reading about both here, but it was a letdown not to see much play.

hayleytrotter
Apr 10th, 2008, 06:23 AM
For me, personally, no.
I preferred indian wells. more of my favourite players did better.
Eh.

QUEENLINDSAY
Apr 10th, 2008, 06:59 AM
Indian Wells atmosphere is better.

In The Zone
Apr 10th, 2008, 07:03 AM
Excluding the YEC Final, we haven't had a quality match in quite some time.

The one that comes to mind is Venus/Jelena QF USO 07. And after that, I'm stumped. :confused:

But Miami has been the closest. Serena/Henin had the Melbourne 07 Final excitement. And the SF and Final were great. Not stellar, but great. Better than IW.

AcesHigh
Apr 10th, 2008, 07:06 AM
Indian Wells atmosphere is better.

because? :confused:

Miami is the 5th slam.. has all the big name players there.. how much more atmosphere do you need? It's in Miami and has great history in recent years.

Nikkiri
Apr 10th, 2008, 07:24 AM
For me, personally, no.
I preferred indian wells. more of my favourite players did better.
Eh.

Yeah same I didn't really enjoy Miami at all but i understand why people here would have enjoyed Miami more ;)

winone23
Apr 10th, 2008, 07:48 AM
Miami was more exciting, but the thread about Venus/ Serena and Indian Wells was more exciting than both Miami and Indian Wells. :p

Nemo_Kool
Apr 10th, 2008, 08:19 AM
Miami Cos Serena Won!!!

Langers
Apr 10th, 2008, 08:28 AM
Indian Wells >>>>>> Miami.

May or may not have had something to do with Ana's results. ;)

Langers
Apr 10th, 2008, 08:28 AM
because? :confused:

Miami is the 5th slam.. has all the big name players there.. how much more atmosphere do you need? It's in Miami and has great history in recent years.
:lol: :lol:

faboozadoo15
Apr 10th, 2008, 08:31 AM
Miami lacked the best player this year, but IW was somewhat lame.

Let's hope for a good clay season!

Renalicious
Apr 10th, 2008, 08:36 AM
What kind of question is this....obviously Miami. Miami is the fifth slam and IW had a serious lack of good field.

cypher_88
Apr 10th, 2008, 09:12 AM
not really, no.

Elldee
Apr 10th, 2008, 09:22 AM
Lindsay/Ana was worth Lindsay/Dinara. So yes. Plus all the non-Lindsay bits. I wish Zvonareva would start producing in the latter rounds tho.

Natalicious
Apr 10th, 2008, 09:46 AM
miami :)

Avid Merrion
Apr 10th, 2008, 10:23 AM
there was a tournament at IW? :scratch:

:p

Kim's_fan_4ever
Apr 10th, 2008, 10:27 AM
Yes, Miami was more entertaining and had more quality matches.

Krzysiu.
Apr 10th, 2008, 10:54 AM
:cat: For me no matter. Makiri lost her first matches in Indian as well as in Miami :[

hayleytrotter
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:21 AM
i understand why people here would have enjoyed Miami more ;)


hahaha deeeefinately!:worship::worship:

austennis
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:59 AM
were both good tournies i happy for my faves cause they did well at all both

BuTtErFrEnA
Apr 10th, 2008, 01:01 PM
Miami...more top players and better match ups...it just had more excitement from the time rafa and rena stepped on the water court

~Cherry*Blossom~
Apr 10th, 2008, 01:07 PM
Easily Miami!

Serena/Kuzy was better than anything I saw at Indian Wells (although that wasn't much :o )

Ryan
Apr 10th, 2008, 01:44 PM
I preferred Indian Wells because Ana and Novak won, but neither tournament was very exciting IMO. :shrug: Federer lost twice, which was awesome, but to me Miami didn't have that many more "big players" - Serena and Venus, minus Sharapova. It evened out pretty well I think.

kwilliams
Apr 10th, 2008, 01:50 PM
Miami was definitely better, the three best female players in the world were at Miami but they weren't at IW.

Ryan
Apr 10th, 2008, 02:33 PM
Miami was definitely better, the three best female players in the world were at Miami but they weren't at IW.


Well, Ivanovic and Kuznetsova were both at Indian Wells so you mean that only Justine, the #1, wasn't at IW right? :p

DA FOREHAND
Apr 10th, 2008, 02:44 PM
Well, Ivanovic and Kuznetsova were both at Indian Wells so you mean that only Justine, the #1, wasn't at IW right? :p

No you are confusing highest ranked with best.:wavey:

Dave.
Apr 10th, 2008, 03:06 PM
Indian Wells had 4 of the best 5 players in the world in the semis. For me it was more exciting. Better atmosphere, better stadium. Miami was alright though.

But they are both tier 1 events, YEC is the 5th slam.

DA FOREHAND
Apr 10th, 2008, 03:09 PM
Indian Wells had 4 of the best 5 players in the world in the semis. For me it was more exciting. Better atmosphere, better stadium. Miami was alright though.

But they are both tier 1 events, YEC is the 5th slam.

Rankings don't always determine who the best players are.

Dave.
Apr 10th, 2008, 03:12 PM
Rankings don't always determine who the best players are.

I know, but neither do career achievements. Achievements in the last 6-12 months a more accurate way of measuring it.

perseus2006
Apr 10th, 2008, 03:34 PM
Miami the "fifth slam"? Truly absurd! It can't even get televised in the host country!?! Miami is a Tier I, at best. Without Pova, a listless Justine, an exhausted Ivanovic and a run down Jankovic, it might as well have been a Tier II! The freshest big name player won, as expected.

IW was much better, IMO of course.

Pureracket
Apr 10th, 2008, 03:37 PM
Miami the "fifth slam"? Truly absurd! It can't even get televised in the host country!?! Miami is a Tier I, at best. Without Pova, a listless Justine, an exhausted Ivanovic and a run down Jankovic, it might as well have been a Tier II! The freshest big name player won, as expected.

IW was much better, IMO of course.JH wasn't listless up to the quarters, and 6-3 in the third against a player that JJ describes as "too strong" doesn't sound too rundown to me.

Try harder.:tape:

fawnrc
Apr 10th, 2008, 03:39 PM
No you are confusing highest ranked with best.:wavey:

Okay!!!

friendsita
Apr 10th, 2008, 03:55 PM
Defff yeah! Miami was so much better.

Dexter
Apr 10th, 2008, 03:57 PM
The answer depends if you're a WS fan or not. :shrug:

Lunaris
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:22 PM
This shit about Miami being a 5th slam is only a pathetic propaganda of USTA and biased american media.

On topic: neither was spectacular.

spartanfan
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:28 PM
I preferred Indian Wells because Ana and Novak won, but neither tournament was very exciting IMO. :shrug: Federer lost twice, which was awesome, but to me Miami didn't have that many more "big players" - Serena and Venus, minus Sharapova. It evened out pretty well I think.
HA! That's a joke the Venus, Serena and Henin have more combined GS titles than the rest of the field combined! They showed up for Miami and didn't for IW. Was Sharapova even mentioned in Miami?? Please. Yea it was great that Ivanovic won IW, she is a very pretty girl and talented. But she is no substitution for a Venus or Serena in a finals. She would have been more impressive if she hadn't gotten schooled by LD. The fact alone that Serena can be a part-time player on tour and still beat 3 top 5 players in a row and bagel the #1 player like she did is drama and entertainment in and of itself!! MIAMI hands down.

Olórin
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:31 PM
Miami the "fifth slam"? Truly absurd! It can't even get televised in the host country!?! Miami is a Tier I, at best. Without Pova, a listless Justine, an exhausted Ivanovic and a run down Jankovic, it might as well have been a Tier II! The freshest big name player won, as expected.

IW was much better, IMO of course.

:spit: I read that and I thought: oh how hilarious it would be if you put forward if your arguments for downgrading it. And then you did. :rolls: Thanks :haha:

Ryan
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:31 PM
Thats your opinion, I never said Serena, Venus, or Justine weren't better players. I said in terms of excitement for me, I preferred IW a little more because my favorites did better, but neither was very exciting. But if you want to get offended by an opinion, go ahead. :lol:

AcesHigh
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:31 PM
This shit about Miami being a 5th slam is only a pathetic propaganda of USTA and biased american media.

On topic: neither was spectacular.

It is? What would you consider the 5th slam? YEC never has the strength of the field Miami has and IMO, a tourney where you can lose and still go on to win the tournament isn't as impressive as having to fight through 6 or 7 matches.

The environment, the field, the fact that it coincides with the men's tourney.. that it's two weeks, and that the fields are of the same quality of slams.. I think calling it the 5th slam is pretty legitimate. I don't know of any other tourney that's as big or that consistently gets as strong fields.

Olórin
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:32 PM
HA! That's a joke the Venus, Serena and Henin have more combined GS titles than the rest of the field combined! They showed up for Miami and didn't for IW. Was Sharapova even mentioned in Miami?? Please. Yea it was great that Ivanovic won IW, she is a very pretty girl and talented. But she is no substitution for a Venus or Serena in a finals. She would have been more impressive if she hadn't gotten schooled by LD. The fact alone that Serena can be a part-time player on tour and still beat 3 top 5 players in a row and bagel the #1 player like she did is drama and entertainment in and of itself!! MIAMI hands down.

I agree with this. Indian Wells a good tournament...but nothing special happend :shrug:
Miami had one of the best mactches of the year so far in Serena vs. Kuznetsova and the WTA'a two biggest drama queens made the final. What more could you want :p

Ryan
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:33 PM
No you are confusing highest ranked with best.:wavey:

No, you're confusing past accomplishments with present form. :wavey: Serena might be one of the "top 3" players right now, but Venus definitely isn't.

AcesHigh
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:35 PM
No, you're confusing past accomplishments with present form. :wavey: Serena might be one of the "top 3" players right now, but Venus definitely isn't.

I agree with that. IW was good.. it had the 3 of the top 4 players in Sharapova, Ivanovic, and Kuznetsova in the semi's. I actually forgot who Ivanovic faced in teh semi's :confused:

Miami had more significant match-ups though.

Expat
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:45 PM
I agree with that. IW was good.. it had the 3 of the top 4 players in Sharapova, Ivanovic, and Kuznetsova in the semi's. I actually forgot who Ivanovic faced in teh semi's :confused:

Miami had more significant match-ups though.
jankovic

The Daviator
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:50 PM
Miami the "fifth slam"? Truly absurd! It can't even get televised in the host country!?! Miami is a Tier I, at best. Without Pova, a listless Justine, an exhausted Ivanovic and a run down Jankovic, it might as well have been a Tier II! The freshest big name player won, as expected.

IW was much better, IMO of course.

What was IW then? Without the world #1 and both Williams sisters?

Yes, Miami was better, but IW was still good too.

Lunaris
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:50 PM
It is? What would you consider the 5th slam? YEC never has the strength of the field Miami has and IMO, a tourney where you can lose and still go on to win the tournament isn't as impressive as having to fight through 6 or 7 matches.

The environment, the field, the fact that it coincides with the men's tourney.. that it's two weeks, and that the fields are of the same quality of slams.. I think calling it the 5th slam is pretty legitimate. I don't know of any other tourney that's as big or that consistently gets as strong fields.
There is no 5th slam. ;)
By this logic I guess we are going to have a 6th slam at IW (which too is combined with the men's event), 7th in Beijing and 8th in Madrid, as all of those tournaments will be mandatory next year. Maybe Madrid and Beijing will be combined with men's tournaments as well in a few years. Hail the octaslam.
No seriously, Miami is no slam. Winning Miami doesn't come close to winning a real slam. It's just a oversized mandatory Tier I, nothing more. Do you think Sharapova would skip a slam like she skipped Miami?
It's just an illusion created by stupid american journalists.

Olórin
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:54 PM
There is no 5th slam. ;)
By this logic I guess we are going to have a 6th slam at IW (which too is combined with the men's event), 7th in Beijing and 8th in Madrid, as all of those tournaments will be mandatory next year. Maybe Madrid and Beijing will be combined with men's tournaments as well in a few years. Hail the octaslam.
No seriously, Miami is no slam. Winning Miami doesn't come close to winning a real slam. It's just a oversized mandatory Tier I, nothing more. Do you think Sharapova would skip a slam like she skipped Miami?
It's just an illusion created by stupid american journalists.

Of course it's not actually 5th Slam. It amazes me how literally some people try to take things. The whole 5th Slam is merely a nod to the fact that Miami is the biggest tournament apart from the slams.

Bounty Hunter
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:58 PM
When Dramarena plays Jankobitch in a game of "how much drama do I have to create to outdrama you?" the excitement factor is +29.83.

Yes.


:lol::lol::lol:

Lunaris
Apr 10th, 2008, 05:02 PM
Of course it's not actually 5th Slam. It amazes me how literally some people try to take things. The whole 5th Slam is merely a nod to the fact that Miami is the biggest tournament apart from the slams.
Yes, but even saying it's the 5th slam, be it literally or not, is absurd.

Olórin
Apr 10th, 2008, 05:06 PM
Yes, but even saying it's the 5th slam, be it literally or not, is absurd.

Why is it absurd? What are your reasons for thinking this?

vadin124
Apr 10th, 2008, 05:47 PM
Lets think about

IW: Marina lost in first round of qualies (even bageled!)
Miami: Reaches 3rd round

Miami was way more exciting :p

Marina is wonderful :kiss:

Sir Stefwhit
Apr 10th, 2008, 05:57 PM
Any tournamenet where I get to watch Federer lose is a great tournament in my book. You put on top of that Serena winning her 30th career title and her fifth Miami title, then it's pretty obvious.

But wait there's more. En route to winning her 5th title, Serena snaps her losing streak to Justine by beating her into submission and dishing out a bagel in the process. Serena got a chance to turn her losing h2h into an even h2h with Janko. Then watching Nadal beat Blake again, then watching him take out Byrdich- and improving his record on hardcourts to leave the first part of the season with more match wins on hardcourts than Djokovic, Rodick, and Federer!!!!!

Although IW had Ivanovic winning another title and Kuzy taking out Masha... can that even compare to all that wonderful stuff Miami had to offer? No.

Miami wins!!!

Just Do It
Apr 10th, 2008, 06:10 PM
Jelena-Serena final was better than the whole IW tournament for me :shrug: