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Corswandt
Apr 9th, 2008, 09:45 PM
Clay sux - fact. Clay season begins and out come the pushers, the moonballers, the aimless grinding, the 5-to-1 UE to winner ratios, the 150 minute matches between scrubs nobody gives a damn about messing up TV schedules.

So I was thinking - what exactly can we do to entertain ourselves during this particularly dreary part of the tennis season?

Then I remembered. "What will Sharapova do during the clay season?" has been the hot topic among the resident punditry, some claiming she'll be the Rafa Nadal of the WTA, some claiming she's as comically hopeless on clay as Patty Schnyder is on grass. So why not a thread to keep tabs on Sharapova's results on the dirt, now that it seems she's willing to actually play a proper clay schedule?

This thread will be all-inclusive. Fans are welcome to list the victims of the Cow on Ice, h8t0rz are welcome to laugh at her losses. I promise not to badrep and insult the latter. Much.

Let the games begin.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/LordFlasheart/Cowonice.jpg

Moo.

Tennisation
Apr 9th, 2008, 09:47 PM
after reading the tittle, I immediately thought "What? Tonya Harding's back from retirement?":lol:

sammy01
Apr 9th, 2008, 09:49 PM
apperently cows lie down when it rains so that when it stops and they get up theres a dry patch of grass where they lay to eat.

that is all!

-Sonic-
Apr 9th, 2008, 09:54 PM
Mooooo.

I love clay.

goldenlox
Apr 9th, 2008, 09:54 PM
This isn't the ATP. The same players win the clay tournaments who win the other tournaments.
The 4 semifinalists from last year's FO are all in the top 5.

sammy01
Apr 9th, 2008, 09:57 PM
http://www.rsc.org/images/udder-275_tcm18-49731.jpg

this thread is udderly disgraceful!

Bruno71
Apr 9th, 2008, 09:58 PM
"Cow on Ice" report 1: AI 2R. The cow beat a player with such a long name, she forgot to look like crap on ice.

starin
Apr 9th, 2008, 09:59 PM
This isn't the ATP. The same players win the clay tournaments who win the other tournaments.
The 4 semifinalists from last year's FO are all in the top 5.

yeah pretty much. Except Davenport but I think Sharapova's mental toughness will allow her to beat most of the clay court headcases who should beat her on clay.

Emina.
Apr 9th, 2008, 10:00 PM
lol

Slutati
Apr 9th, 2008, 10:03 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/LordFlasheart/Cowonice.jpg


:awww:Sharapova used to look so good.

Kipling
Apr 9th, 2008, 10:04 PM
after reading the tittle, I immediately thought "What? Tonya Harding's back from retirement?":lol:

That was actually pretty funny.

Poova
Apr 9th, 2008, 10:08 PM
This isn't the ATP. The same players win the clay tournaments who win the other tournaments.
The 4 semifinalists from last year's FO are all in the top 5.
And the 4 semifinalists from last year's men's French Open are the top 4, what's your point? :scratch:

goldenlox
Apr 9th, 2008, 10:13 PM
The players who win RG, Rome and Berlin are the same players who win the USO, IW, and just made the Miami final.
There's no Brugueras and no Nadals, who only win multiple RGs.

cellophane
Apr 9th, 2008, 11:30 PM
http://www.rsc.org/images/udder-275_tcm18-49731.jpg

this thread is udderly disgraceful!

:haha:

Uranium
Apr 9th, 2008, 11:43 PM
:awww:Sharapova used to look so good.

:spit::tape::lol:

drgray
Apr 10th, 2008, 12:16 AM
She's doing better than Scnyder :lol:

And yes, who made the comment first? Was it Mary Carillo or someone else?

morningglory
Apr 10th, 2008, 12:32 AM
mooooooo... :lol:
Granted, she wont become a Nadal, but I do think she can make some significant improvements on it with enough effort and experience :lol: And even tho I generally hate clay tennis (esp. when players like Canas or Conchita play it) fact remains that if the cow wants to complete the career GS, which has eluded great players like Lindsay or Martina H, then she has to win in Paris.

twight6
Apr 10th, 2008, 12:34 AM
I thought for sure this was going to be about Lindsay's clay season :o

Although Sharapova's is much more fun to discuss :bounce:

UDACHi
Apr 10th, 2008, 12:36 AM
She's doing better than Scnyder :lol:

And yes, who made the comment first? Was it Mary Carillo or someone else?

maria. :lol:

Dan23
Apr 10th, 2008, 12:40 AM
isnt this what Maria's forum is for :scratch:

partbrit
Apr 10th, 2008, 12:45 AM
It's my favorite season. Always was, always will be.

spartanfan
Apr 10th, 2008, 01:29 AM
I thought for sure this was going to be about Lindsay's clay season :o

Although Sharapova's is much more fun to discuss :bounce:
What is that person doing in your picture? lol

AcesHigh
Apr 10th, 2008, 03:39 AM
Patty.. when did you start sucking so badly :help:

Nice thread.. although claycourt season is a big relief from the hardcourts. If they made the grasscourt season longer, it would be perfect :drool:

plantman
Apr 10th, 2008, 03:42 AM
http://www.rsc.org/images/udder-275_tcm18-49731.jpg

this thread is udderly disgraceful!

:haha:

Drake1980
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:31 AM
:lol:

Cator
Apr 10th, 2008, 04:33 AM
lmao @ this thread

Beat
Apr 10th, 2008, 08:01 AM
Clay sux - fact. Clay season begins and out come the pushers, the moonballers, the aimless grinding, the 5-to-1 UE to winner ratios, the 150 minute matches between scrubs nobody gives a damn about messing up TV schedules.

i completely disagree, but that was funny. :lol:

Sam L
Apr 10th, 2008, 08:08 AM
after reading the tittle, I immediately thought "What? Tonya Harding's back from retirement?":lol:

That's so mean...

http://www.virginmedia.com/microsites/sport/slideshow/cheats/img_8.jpg

:lol:

mankind
Apr 10th, 2008, 08:28 AM
This isn't the ATP. The same players win the clay tournaments who win the other tournaments.
The 4 semifinalists from last year's FO are all in the top 5.

Random observation, but I find your posts on this board to be consistently irrelevant, ill-thought-out, illogical and hypocritical.
So think about that before you hit the Submit Reply button next time.
Health and happiness to everyone! :wavey:

s_j
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:12 AM
http://www.icerink.co.za/images/Cow-Skating1.jpg

griffin
Apr 10th, 2008, 09:21 PM
Moo.

Dav.
Apr 10th, 2008, 09:25 PM
:awww:Sharapova used to look so good.
:spit:

Post of the year. :lol:

BuTtErFrEnA
Apr 10th, 2008, 10:37 PM
yay its opened back!! LOL...this is a funny thread

SOA_MC
Apr 10th, 2008, 10:39 PM
This thread is so much better than Serena?

BuTtErFrEnA
Apr 10th, 2008, 10:46 PM
nah...it's a close second though ;)

Bruno71
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:06 PM
"Cow on Ice" report 2: AI 3R. The cow got pushed to the limit by one of those "chickenshit clay pushers" Anabel Medina Garrigues. Used her experience to just get over the hump 7-6 5-7 7-6 :worship:

Corswandt
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:06 PM
Moo.

Skidded for a while, but then in the TB it was an unstoppable stampede.

Corswandt
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:13 PM
one of those "chickenshit clay pushers" Anabel Medina Garrigues

Ain't it so? Woman has never hit a winner in her life. I thought Maria would tank, or ret. claiming injury, but she probably felt it would be too shameful to do it when facing such an opponent.

At a crossroads now. If she is to still play Charleston, she has to w/d from AI now. Not much to win and a lot to lose here. The match vs Alona will be another grinding battle, and even if Maria wins she will still be facing Davenport in the SF. Whereas Charleston, now without JH and Venus, is easy points for all those involved.

Emina.
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:15 PM
:banana:

goldenlox
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:17 PM
Maria is 2-0 on clay in 2008, she's won 7 of her last 8 on clay, going back to her FO SF in 2007,
Maria lost her last hardcourt match, to Sveta. Lost her last grass match.
But has a clay winning streak.

Dodoboy.
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:21 PM
Maria is 2-0 on clay in 2008, she's won 7 of her last 8 on clay, going back to her FO SF in 2007,
Maria lost her last hardcourt match, to Sveta. Lost her last grass match.
But has a clay winning streak.

2 match winning streak? :eek:

homogenius
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:22 PM
2 match winning streak? :eek:

:tape:

goldenlox
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:22 PM
2 match streak overall. She lost to Sveta 3 matches ago.
7 out of her last 8 on clay matches anyone. Justine is also 7 of 8. Ana 0 for 1.

Corswandt
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:24 PM
Maria is 2-0 on clay in 2008, she's won 7 of her last 8 on clay, going back to her FO SF in 2007,
Maria lost her last hardcourt match, to Sveta. Lost her last grass match.
But has a clay winning streak.

Keep the funny stuff coming. :worship:

homogenius
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:25 PM
2 match streak overall. She lost to Sveta 3 matches ago.
7 out of her last 8 on clay matches anyone. Justine is also 7 of 8. Ana 0 for 1.

She won today because she's a fighter and AMG choked badly at the start of 3rd set.She still sucks on clay for the moment.

SOA_MC
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:26 PM
Maria is 2-0 on clay in 2008, she's won 7 of her last 8 on clay, going back to her FO SF in 2007,
Maria lost her last hardcourt match, to Sveta. Lost her last grass match.
But has a clay winning streak.

I'm :speakles: you didn't mention "If Maria plays like she did at the AO nobody will beat her":p

goldenlox
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:27 PM
Maria has great numbers. 7 of 8 on clay.
20 of 21 in 2008.
Lets enjoy it.

Corswandt
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:28 PM
I'm :speakles: you didn't mention "If Maria plays like her AO form nobody will beat her":p

Israel sucked because we lost our favourite goldenlox catchphrase: "She never played Fed Cup for Russia."

goldenlox
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:30 PM
Winning a major then going straight to Israel to play Fed Cup was something special.
She could have changed her mind. After winning a major, it would have been an expected decision

The Daviator
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:32 PM
2 match streak overall. She lost to Sveta 3 matches ago.
7 out of her last 8 on clay matches anyone. Justine is also 7 of 8. Ana 0 for 1.

Ana is 12 of 13 :wavey:

goldenlox
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:34 PM
Her last was 16 26.

SOA_MC
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:34 PM
Israel sucked because we lost our favourite goldenlox catchphrase: "She never played Fed Cup for Russia."

I have a Love/Hate relationship with Goldenlox:rolls:

SOA_MC
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:35 PM
Ana is 12 of 13 :wavey:

:worship::worship::worship::devil:

The Daviator
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:35 PM
Her last was 16 26.

Masha's was 26 16.

Whoops :lol:

The Daviator
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:38 PM
I have a Love/Hate relationship with Goldenlox:rolls:

I liked goldenlox much more before he became a Pova fanboy.

goldenlox
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:38 PM
The FO SF was one of Maria's best results last year. She only won 1 title.
Speaking of cows, they should have moved Davenport so Anna could start now.

LindsayRulz
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:39 PM
Masha's was 26 16.

Whoops :lol:

:lol:

SOA_MC
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:41 PM
The FO SF was one of Maria's best results last year. She only won 1 title.
Speaking of cows, they should have moved Davenport so Anna could start now.

Take a chill pill dude were just playing with ya

The Daviator
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:42 PM
The FO SF was one of Maria's best results last year. She only won 1 title.
Speaking of cows, they should have moved Davenport so Anna could start now.

Anna will be rolled out when they want to clear the stands :wavey:

goldenlox
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:45 PM
If they are charging for a night session, they are making them wait about 2 hours, maybe 3.
The day crowd got their money's worth already. If they want to stay 10 hours, they should be watching Davenport on a side court while the evening crowd comes in.

Dan23
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:46 PM
Just when ya thought there was some good moderation in the GM for once....it gets undone :haha:

Nikkiri
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:46 PM
Anna will be rolled out when they want to clear the stands :wavey:

:haha:

SOA_MC
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:47 PM
If they are charging for a night session, they are making them wait about 2 hours.
The day crowd got their money's worth already. If they want to stay 10 hours, they should be watching Davenport on a side court while the evening crowd comes in.

Goldenlox :hearts::rolls:

goldenlox
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:49 PM
This Sprem match looks like another 3 hours.
I'd rather see Sprem in the semis.

Dan23
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:49 PM
She won today because she's a fighter and AMG choked badly at the start of 3rd set.She still sucks on clay for the moment.
She won because shes a better player than AMG :shrug:

The Daviator
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:50 PM
If they are charging for a night session, they are making them wait about 2 hours, maybe 3.
The day crowd got their money's worth already. If they want to stay 10 hours, they should be watching Davenport on a side court while the evening crowd comes in.

Lindsay is a 3-time AI champion and an American, she's on a 12-match winning streak in AI, they even gave her a parade there one year, she won't be playing on any court besides the stadium court. Anna should have been moved in that case.

Thkmra
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:50 PM
"Cow on Ice" report 2: AI 3R. The cow got pushed to the limit by one of those "chickenshit clay pushers" Anabel Medina Garrigues. Used her experience to just get over the hump 7-6 5-7 7-6 :worship:

Or she could be an 'over-rated' ball retreiver! :tape:

Vamos.
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:50 PM
The players who win RG, Rome and Berlin are the same players who win the USO, IW, and just made the Miami final.
There's no Brugueras and no Nadals, who only win multiple RGs.

:rolls::rolls::rolls:

Sorry but you are way out of your depth here. :lol:

You CLEARLY have no idea what you are talking about.

Firstly, your point to back up your argument about the four semifinalists at RG 07 being in the top 5 can be turned on its HEAD to in fact mean nothing; as the four semifinalists for the ATP are the top 4. :dance:

Furthermore, Rafael Nadal is an incredible talent. And should've won Wimbledon last year. And might well do so this year. And, if it were not for the coincidence that R.Federer is so utterly dominant in this era, would've been #1 and had even more success.

Saying he only wins multiple RG is absolutely EMBARASSING. It is such an insult to him. And comes from somebody who only watches the ATP from the absolute outside; that statement in itself highlights your complete and utter ignorance of men's tennis.

Stick to what you know. That was just a pathetic comment.

Uranium
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:52 PM
goldenlox, really American fans would rather watch Davenport than Anna, so they should put Anna on a different court

Peterk07
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:53 PM
I probably wouldn't watch tennis if clay surface wasn't there. Tennis would be soo different and boring without it. We would see 6.6 and taller "basketball players" moving on the court like an elephant and bashing the ball mindlessly, producing countless aces, serve-volley games and no rallies longer that 3-4 hits at all. Clay gives chances to shorter players, keeps the importance to learn to volley, and brings a lot of drama into the game. I remember Lendl vs McEnroe, Courier vs Agassi, Agassi vs Medvedev, Graf vs Sanchez-Vicario or Pierce finally winning her slam. All those great memories. :)

goldenlox
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:54 PM
Did you see Nadal lose at the USO to Blake and Youzhny?
Did you see his loss to Tsonga?
You don't think he's much better on clay than on hardcourt?
Did you see the spanking he got Sunday?

Vamos.
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:56 PM
OMG. I hadn't even read page 2 of this thread. :tape:

Scratch my last post. Goldenlox is just an idiot regardless of his chosen topic.

WTF are you talking about?!

"Maria has a clay winning streak," yet "she lost her last hard and grass matches". Wow, you don't say?

She is a winning streak of 2. You're a baffoon.:o

goldenlox
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:58 PM
Keep thinking Nadal's equal on every surface

SOA_MC
Apr 10th, 2008, 11:59 PM
goldenlox, really American fans would rather watch Davenport than Anna, so they should put Anna on a different court

We should tell Goldenlox, Davenport is 3 time GS champion and Chakvetadze is a 0 time GS champion
You know only majors matter to Goldenlox.:lol:

homogenius
Apr 11th, 2008, 12:00 AM
Did you see Nadal lose at the USO to Blake and Youzhny?
Did you see his loss to Tsonga?
You don't think he's much better on clay than on hardcourt?

The guy won Indian W. Toronto, Madrid, made 2 finals at Wimbledon and reached is second final at Miami just last week beating Blake and Berdych.Yes, clearly he can't win on other surface than clay.

goldenlox
Apr 11th, 2008, 12:01 AM
They didn't put Anna out there, so she's waiting for hours. So is the evening crowd.
Nadal has NEVER lost a match at the FO. Never

Vamos.
Apr 11th, 2008, 12:01 AM
Did you see Nadal lose at the USO to Blake and Youzhny?
Did you see his loss to Tsonga?
You don't think he's much better on clay than on hardcourt?
Did you see the spanking he got Sunday?

Did you see him beat Blake at Indian Wells and then one week later in Miami?!

Did you see him beat Tsonga at Indian Wells?



Did you see the spanking Federer got from, wait for it, MARDY FISH? Oh, he is just a grasscourt player and nothing else. (That is your logic) And that is SUCH flawed logic.

Nadal is such a good player on all surfaces, he hasn't found his feet in the hardcourt majors but I tell you something; before the Final he played some AMAZING hardcourt tennis in Miami. I watched him take apart Blake and Berdych; two players he has struggled with in the past. He is ever-improving and he could quite easily have a Wimbledon title himself by now. In the words of Roger Federer:

"I have to take as many as I can get before he comes and takes them all" (In reference to Rafael Nadal and Wimbledon titles) What were you saying goldenlox?

Now save some face and leave the ATP lie because you are just talking rubbish.

Vamos.
Apr 11th, 2008, 12:02 AM
Nobody wants to see Anna anyway?

She is a snoozefest, everyone knows that.

I would actually rather watch a cow on ice, to be honest. A real cow on real ice. At least that would be funny. :shrug:

The Daviator
Apr 11th, 2008, 12:03 AM
I really think Jill Craybas is gonna win RG, she was on a 1-match winning streak before losing to Lindsay :worship:

tennisfanxx
Apr 11th, 2008, 12:03 AM
goldenlox is a fickle bitch,
disliking maria, then defending her to no end... don't listen to the fool

Vamos.
Apr 11th, 2008, 12:04 AM
Ye, I quite fancy AMG actually.

She is only a match winning streak of 0.

Which is equal to all her other surfaces, so clearly she is just a great claycourt player. :worship:

pov
Apr 11th, 2008, 12:08 AM
I probably wouldn't watch tennis if clay surface wasn't there. Tennis would be soo different and boring without it. We would see 6.6 and taller "basketball players" moving on the court like an elephant and bashing the ball mindlessly, producing countless aces, serve-volley games and no rallies longer that 3-4 hits at all. Clay gives chances to shorter players, keeps the importance to learn to volley, and brings a lot of drama into the game. I remember Lendl vs McEnroe, Courier vs Agassi, Agassi vs Medvedev, Graf vs Sanchez-Vicario or Pierce finally winning her slam. All those great memories. :)

I think that height is close to irrelevant on any surface. And if you think basketball players move like elephants, I'd suggest watching some NBA and WNBA games.

LindsayRulz
Apr 11th, 2008, 12:11 AM
They didn't put Anna out there, so she's waiting for hours. So is the evening crowd.
Nadal has NEVER lost a match at the FO. Never

She knew she wouldn't have played before 7:00PM... I'm pretty sure Lindsay and Karolina had to wait longer than this poor Anna.

Uranium
Apr 11th, 2008, 12:13 AM
Ye, I quite fancy AMG actually.

She is only a match winning streak of 0.

Which is equal to all her other surfaces, so clearly she is just a great claycourt player. :worship:

:yawn:
she made RG round of 16 last year:p

goldenlox
Apr 11th, 2008, 12:13 AM
Davenport and Sprem were waiting for several hours. Usually they move those matches.
Venus and Sania didn't want to move at the AO.
Maybe Lindsay didn't want to move.

Emina.
Apr 11th, 2008, 12:14 AM
the thred starter is not a hater...at least i dont think so :help::tape:

goldenlox
Apr 11th, 2008, 12:16 AM
I'm interested to see how this clay season plays out.
Last year Maria lost to Aga in round 3 at the USO, and to Ana in the FO SF.
Lets see what happens this year.

Uranium
Apr 11th, 2008, 12:18 AM
Davenport and Sprem were waiting for several hours. Usually they move those matches.
Venus and Sania didn't want to move at the AO.
Maybe Lindsay didn't want to move.

they would NEVER move Lindsay Davenport, who is a former champion and AMERICAN off Centre Court for Anna Chakvetadze, fans would rather watch Lindsay

LindsayRulz
Apr 11th, 2008, 12:19 AM
Davenport and Sprem were waiting for several hours. Usually they move those matches.
Venus and Sania didn't want to move at the AO.
Maybe Lindsay didn't want to move.

Hopefully Anna and Dominika won't start their match at 1:00AM :lol:

goldenlox
Apr 11th, 2008, 12:20 AM
But they didn't move Anna. That's the point.
Tomorrow is a working day, if the crowd is still waiting outside, they might be there for a while.

The Daviator
Apr 11th, 2008, 12:21 AM
Hopefully Anna and Dominika won't start their match at 1:00AM :lol:

:lol:

It's not even 9pm in AI yet, chill goldie.

goldenlox
Apr 11th, 2008, 12:26 AM
I'm fine. I enjoy the humor.
Although Nadal fans are pretty crazy.
I didn't realize Nadal's effort on Sunday against Davydenko was such a great performance. Cheers for Nadal!

SOA_MC
Apr 11th, 2008, 12:57 AM
Are all the QF's going to be played tomorrow?

faboozadoo15
Apr 11th, 2008, 01:27 AM
A few things:
I think this thread is pretty funny, tracking the results of the race leader on her least favorite surface, a player who goes so far as to call HERSELF a "cow on ice". Sharapova is far froma bad claycourter, nowhere near the worst even in the top10.

And why is goldenlox being mauled in this thread? The women's game and men's game is SO different. Women can play hardcourt tennis on a claycourt and win. Pierce, Majoli, Serena, Capriati-- and that's just RG winners within the last decade. On the men's side, Nadal can win on clay for months but loses at almost every other event he plays-- statistically. It's not even close. It just so happens that the top4 men's players also happen to be good claycourters-- maybe this is because players feel more pressure to be versatile since Federer has dominated. This has NEVER been the case before in the men's game. Sampras was a nonissue on clay year after year, and he was #1.

People want to compare Sharapova on clay to say, Andy Roddick. I think that's unfair. She fights her heart out, wants it, maybe even believes it-- that she can win. Also, Sharapova's competition is very different. There are a lot more Anabel Medina Gariggueses on the ATP. Many, many, many more.

Craig.
Apr 11th, 2008, 02:16 AM
I liked goldenlox much more before he became a Pova fanboy.

You really don't like Maria, huh?

SOA_MC
Apr 11th, 2008, 02:19 AM
You really don't like Maria, huh?

You don't like anybody but Maria so what's your point

Craig.
Apr 11th, 2008, 02:26 AM
You don't like anybody but Maria so what's your point

Umm, what the hell? Are you that poster's bodyguard or something? :lol: Was I even talking to you? How the hell would you know that I don't like anyone other than Maria? And they say Maria fans are immature. :rolleyes:

I just asked that because I've seen The Daviator post around a lot and he/she seems very realistic, polite and MATURE... and I'd noticed that he/she doesn't like Maria and I just wanted to find out why. Is that a problem?

So next time... how about you mind your own business and stop making biased assumptions about people before you find out who they are?

Emina.
Apr 11th, 2008, 02:29 AM
I hardly post in any Sharapova threads:confused:

:wavey:

SOA_MC
Apr 11th, 2008, 02:44 AM
:wavey:

That puts me in a grand total of two Sharapova threads I think that qualifies as hardly ever

The Sharapova fans need to get out of thier mentality of us against WTA World

SOA_MC
Apr 11th, 2008, 02:53 AM
Umm, what the hell? Are you that poster's bodyguard or something? :lol: Was I even talking to you? How the hell would you know that I don't like anyone other than Maria? And they say Maria fans are immature. :rolleyes:

I just asked that because I've seen The Daviator post around a lot and he/she seems very realistic, polite and MATURE... and I'd noticed that he/she doesn't like Maria and I just wanted to find out why. Is that a problem?

So next time... how about you mind your own business and stop making biased assumptions about people before you find out who they are?

No, not really there are just some crazy Sharapova fans who go on an all out attack on anything even slighty against Sharapova maybe your different who knows so chill:)

LH2HBH
Apr 11th, 2008, 02:56 AM
Love It.

BuTtErFrEnA
Apr 11th, 2008, 03:21 AM
:weirdo: goldenlox :lol:

SOA_MC
Apr 11th, 2008, 03:29 AM
I predict this is going to be one of WTA World's all-time greatest threads:devil:

BuTtErFrEnA
Apr 11th, 2008, 03:30 AM
no0o0o it can't out do serena? :fiery:

AcesHigh
Apr 11th, 2008, 03:31 AM
:lol: at this thread. Some people getting defensive.

And Nadal is a great player on ALL surfaces. How many people have made the RG-Wimby final double in the last 20 years? He also has several TMS/AMS titles. :weirdo:

SOA_MC
Apr 11th, 2008, 03:35 AM
no0o0o it can't out do serena? :fiery:

:lol:
I said one of the greatest, not that it will be the greatest.:wavey:

shell
Apr 11th, 2008, 03:49 AM
Ye, I quite fancy AMG actually.

She is only a match winning streak of 0.

Which is equal to all her other surfaces, so clearly she is just a great claycourt player. :worship:

:worship: :worship: :worship:

I laughed until I had tears in my eyes on this one.
Really, I think this is a great thread. Lovely humor, 4 -5 different conversations going on at once, and so far not too much bitching. And I'm not even a hugh Maria fan :cool: You guys are fun!

morningglory
Apr 11th, 2008, 03:55 AM
:lol: at this thread. Some people getting defensive.

And Nadal is a great player on ALL surfaces. How many people have made the RG-Wimby final double in the last 20 years? He also has several TMS/AMS titles. :weirdo:

Ummm.... FedEx?

AcesHigh
Apr 11th, 2008, 04:32 AM
Ummm.... FedEx?

Other than Fed, who is obviously great on all surfaces, and is GOAT... well, IMO.

I'm just saying that Nadal is great on all surfaces.

alfonsojose
Apr 11th, 2008, 04:42 AM
Wimbledon is a joke this days. The slowest, highest bouncing grass ever :sad:

Vamos.
Apr 11th, 2008, 08:55 AM
A few things:
I think this thread is pretty funny, tracking the results of the race leader on her least favorite surface, a player who goes so far as to call HERSELF a "cow on ice". Sharapova is far froma bad claycourter, nowhere near the worst even in the top10.

And why is goldenlox being mauled in this thread? The women's game and men's game is SO different. Women can play hardcourt tennis on a claycourt and win. Pierce, Majoli, Serena, Capriati-- and that's just RG winners within the last decade. On the men's side, Nadal can win on clay for months but loses at almost every other event he plays-- statistically. It's not even close. It just so happens that the top4 men's players also happen to be good claycourters-- maybe this is because players feel more pressure to be versatile since Federer has dominated. This has NEVER been the case before in the men's game. Sampras was a nonissue on clay year after year, and he was #1.

People want to compare Sharapova on clay to say, Andy Roddick. I think that's unfair. She fights her heart out, wants it, maybe even believes it-- that she can win. Also, Sharapova's competition is very different. There are a lot more Anabel Medina Gariggueses on the ATP. Many, many, many more.

:rolls:

Ohmygod.

Do you even follow men's tennis?

It it just so awful to hear people say these things; you just lose all credibility in my mind.

Nadal is soooooooo much more than a claycourt player. And to say anything less than that is simply ignorant. Stick with WTA. :shrug::rolleyes:

Vamos.
Apr 11th, 2008, 09:00 AM
I'm fine. I enjoy the humor.
Although Nadal fans are pretty crazy.
I didn't realize Nadal's effort on Sunday against Davydenko was such a great performance. Cheers for Nadal!

What?!

Try reading and comprehending. Nobody is saying Nadal's performance against Davydenko was great. Just like nobody is saying Federer, the supposed GOAT, played well against MARDY FISH.

People have off days. The best can have off days.

For someone like Nadal, on a hard court, if he goes up against someone with a huge serve and huge game IF that person plays (and I am not saying Davydenko falls under this category) to the pretty much the top of their game then sometimes there is just very little you can do. :shrug:

As Federer saw against Andy Roddick. Now who is going to say Roddick is a better hardcourt player than Federer? Nobody.

But if Roddick did the same to Nadal; then people like you and fabalalavasodzofsozozo would undoubtedly jump in and start calling him nothing but a player who wins "multiple RG" and put him in lists with Bruguera (sp). Which is just so DEMEANING to a player of Nadal's stature.

As I said with the Federer quote; it proves that in his mind Nadal is ready to win multiple Wimbledon's so that alone means he is so much more than just a claycourter.

Ignorant people are among the most annoying people and I dare say that you, goldenlox, right now are the epitome of ignorance on this subject.

faboozadoo15
Apr 11th, 2008, 09:17 AM
:rolls:

Ohmygod.

Do you even follow men's tennis?

It it just so awful to hear people say these things; you just lose all credibility in my mind.

Nadal is soooooooo much more than a claycourt player. And to say anything less than that is simply ignorant. Stick with WTA. :shrug::rolleyes:

:rolleyes: Yes, I do follow men's tennis :weirdo:
And yes, I know Nadal is amazing on all surfaces, but his play on other surfaces in NOWHERE NEAR AS GOOD AS HIS PLAY ON CLAY.

How many people have to point that out to you? He wins almost every event he plays on clay (All but one in the last few years, right?)

He's 0-6 on non clay events this year.
In 2007, he only won Indian wells (where he only beat 1 top 10 player-- Roddick) and Stuttgart, where he didnt beat a single top 20 player.
In 2006, he only won Dubai off the clay.

No one is saying he's incompetent on hardcoirts and grass. He's just so much better on clay. It's undeniable.

Harvs
Apr 11th, 2008, 09:19 AM
lol shes still gona win more matches on the surface than most players

Slutiana
Apr 11th, 2008, 09:28 AM
:lol:.

Vamos.
Apr 11th, 2008, 09:39 AM
:rolleyes: Yes, I do follow men's tennis :weirdo:
And yes, I know Nadal is amazing on all surfaces, but his play on other surfaces in NOWHERE NEAR AS GOOD AS HIS PLAY ON CLAY.

How many people have to point that out to you? He wins almost every event he plays on clay (All but one in the last few years, right?)

He's 0-6 on non clay events this year.
In 2007, he only won Indian wells (where he only beat 1 top 10 player-- Roddick) and Stuttgart, where he didnt beat a single top 20 player.
In 2006, he only won Dubai off the clay.

No one is saying he's incompetent on hardcoirts and grass. He's just so much better on clay. It's undeniable.


He is the best claycourt player of all time. :shrug:

Therefore, that is expected. I accept that he is much better on clay than other surfaces. Federer is much better on grass than other surfaces.

And the quote of your's that I bolded is where you're wrong.

If you look at goldenlox's original quote that I took issue with he gave Nadal as an example of a player who does NOTHING but wins "multiple RG"; now that does say he is incompetent on grass and hard. Whereas, for me, he is 2nd best player on grass and 3rd best player on hard.

:weirdo:...I never, at any point, contested that clay was not his best surface. :yawn:

faboozadoo15
Apr 11th, 2008, 09:55 AM
How is he the best claycourt player of all time? After 3 RG's?

And where's your evidence that he doesn't lose nearly every other event off of clay that he plays? he's only won 3 nonclay titles in 08,07,and 06.

LudwigDvorak
Apr 11th, 2008, 10:13 AM
Stuttgart was actually clay, faboo...

Anyway. I hope Lindsay beats Maria in the SF. :angel:

goldenlox
Apr 11th, 2008, 10:13 AM
Don't waste your time with that idiot.
Sharapova went further at RG than the USO in 2007 and 2004.
She's won the same amount of matches at both RG and the USO the last 4 years.

Nadal is a classic example of a multiple RG winner who can't even get to the big matches at the USO. He's bounced before he gets to Roddick, Fed or Djoke

Kipling
Apr 11th, 2008, 10:21 AM
She hasn't played as well as she's capable, but there's a lot of criticism for someone who's one of only two of the top 8 seeds to have advanced to the QFs. Where's the ragging on No.'s 2-7, all of whom are mysteriously missing from the QFs?

SOA_MC
Apr 11th, 2008, 10:39 AM
:rocker2:The cow on ice is on at 1 O'Clock going for a 3 clay court match winning streak:rocker2:

goldenlox
Apr 11th, 2008, 10:43 AM
Back to back cows because Lindsay plays next :rocker2:

Lindsayfan32
Apr 11th, 2008, 10:46 AM
Clay sux - fact. Clay season begins and out come the pushers, the moonballers, the aimless grinding, the 5-to-1 UE to winner ratios, the 150 minute matches between scrubs nobody gives a damn about messing up TV schedules.

So I was thinking - what exactly can we do to entertain ourselves during this particularly dreary part of the tennis season?

Then I remembered. "What will Sharapova do during the clay season?" has been the hot topic among the resident punditry, some claiming she'll be the Rafa Nadal of the WTA, some claiming she's as comically hopeless on clay as Patty Schnyder is on grass. So why not a thread to keep tabs on Sharapova's results on the dirt, now that it seems she's willing to actually play a proper clay schedule?

This thread will be all-inclusive. Fans are welcome to list the victims of the Cow on Ice, h8t0rz are welcome to laugh at her losses. I promise not to badrep and insult the latter. Much.

Let the games begin.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/LordFlasheart/Cowonice.jpg

Moo.

When I read the title of this thread I thought someone is taking pot shots at Lindsay's lack of clay prowess but I like it about Maria Scremapova. After today's match I really like Lindsay's chances of beating her on clay if they play in semi finals. I fully admit Lindsay a clay hack too but it will be an interesting match if they play as you could say it's a surface where they are both as bad as each other on. :)

I agree with you that the clay season is the most boring of the whole. I won't even watch Lindsay on clay and it a really long stretch for me to say that too.

Corswandt
Apr 11th, 2008, 10:33 PM
We would see 6.6 and taller "basketball players" moving on the court like an elephant and bashing the ball mindlessly, producing countless aces, serve-volley games and no rallies longer that 3-4 hits at all.

:hearts:

Clay gives chances to shorter players, keeps the importance to learn to volley, and brings a lot of drama into the game.

Most claycourters can't volley to save their lives.

Wiggly
Apr 11th, 2008, 10:45 PM
Corswandt strikes again. Always histyrical threads!:lol:

selesbooz
Apr 11th, 2008, 10:57 PM
Masha's was 26 16.

Whoops :lol:

Hold the fuck up. Didn't fat ass lose by the same scoreline in the finals?:confused:

selesbooz
Apr 11th, 2008, 11:00 PM
Keep the funny stuff coming. :worship:

When ws the last time Nicole won a match:help:

The Daviator
Apr 11th, 2008, 11:07 PM
Hold the fuck up. Didn't fat ass lose by the same scoreline in the finals?:confused:

If you read the thread :weirdo: You'd see that post was a response to gl saying 'fat ass' (:lol:) got beatdown in the final.

The Daviator
Apr 11th, 2008, 11:11 PM
Umm, what the hell? Are you that poster's bodyguard or something? :lol: Was I even talking to you? How the hell would you know that I don't like anyone other than Maria? And they say Maria fans are immature. :rolleyes:

I just asked that because I've seen The Daviator post around a lot and he/she seems very realistic, polite and MATURE... and I'd noticed that he/she doesn't like Maria and I just wanted to find out why. Is that a problem?

So next time... how about you mind your own business and stop making biased assumptions about people before you find out who they are?

Aw thanks :hug: But unfortunately I can't say I'm a huge fan of Sharpette, but I like a lot of her fans :yeah:

Corswandt
Apr 11th, 2008, 11:15 PM
When ws the last time Nicole won a match:help:

Can't remember. Late 2005?

Slutiana
Apr 11th, 2008, 11:31 PM
http://www.southparkstuff.com/images/stories/epiimgs/epi218/218_cartman_thumb_cow.gif

Maria starred in a south park episode? :eek: :eek:

So first she copies serena?'s wave and now her acting? :o:o

:bolt:

Craig.
Apr 11th, 2008, 11:39 PM
Aw thanks :hug: But unfortunately I can't say I'm a huge fan of Sharpette, but I like a lot of her fans :yeah:

No problem. Thanks to you too. :)

May I ask why you don't like her? (Hope I'm not bothering you too much with this and don't worry, I'm not stalking you, I just want to know.) :lol: ;)

Nikkiri
Apr 12th, 2008, 12:26 AM
Hold the fuck up. Didn't fat ass lose by the same scoreline in the finals?:confused:

When ws the last time Nicole won a match:help:

Defensive much? :o

pepaw
Apr 12th, 2008, 12:33 AM
Hold the fuck up. Didn't fat ass lose by the same scoreline in the finals?:confused:

When ws the last time Nicole won a match:help:

:o

The Daviator
Apr 12th, 2008, 12:34 AM
No problem. Thanks to you too. :)

May I ask why you don't like her? (Hope I'm not bothering you too much with this and don't worry, I'm not stalking you, I just want to know.) :lol: ;)

Well I don't want to open myself up to bad reps ;) I just think she's too managed and insincere, but sometimes I warm to her, I like the interviews she's given in AI this week for example :p

Craig.
Apr 12th, 2008, 12:35 AM
Well I don't want to open myself up to bad reps ;) I just think she's too managed and insincere, but sometimes I warm to her, I like the interviews she's given in AI this week for example :p

Hah, all right, thanks. Nice talking to you. ;)

pepaw
Apr 12th, 2008, 12:39 AM
I think she will do well this season. She hasn't done too well in Amelia Island yet but she's still in the tournament and has a great chance at winning her first clay title. If she does win, she will have a lot of confidence about the rest of the season.

This time last year she was nursing a sore shoulder but still managed a SF at RG. This practice wil do her good.

She'll probably play Amelia Island, Berlin and Rome. I don't expect her to win either of the red clay tournaments.

morningglory
Apr 12th, 2008, 01:01 AM
Well well well, next matchup will be interesting... Lindsay's no figure skater on the surface herself...
Should be a good match with lots of blazing winners

Vamos.
Apr 12th, 2008, 01:11 AM
How is he the best claycourt player of all time? After 3 RG's?

And where's your evidence that he doesn't lose nearly every other event off of clay that he plays? he's only won 3 nonclay titles in 08,07,and 06.

Ok...just a few words for you to answer the first question:

WIN STREAK. AGE.

Now, read into them. I don't think I need to expand. Realise what they entail. Then you can accept why it is not a sweeping statement to regard Nadal in such a manner. In fact, most commentators and pundits have already said the same thing. :yawn:

Next.

So you are essentially saying: "Nadal doesn't win the majority of tournaments he plays outside of clay."

AND?! Why should he? That says nothing about him. Neither does Djokovic. Neither has Federer this year. Nobody is right now. :shrug:

That is just an absolute NOTHING point.

As I have said, yes CLAY IS UNDOUBTEDLY HIS BEST SURFACE; but he is the 3rd best hardcourt player and the 2nd best grasscourt player.

While goldenlox dismissed him as nothing but a RG winner. Which is ludicrous. And that was my whole argument. Are you really going to disagree with that? No. Good.

Vamos.
Apr 12th, 2008, 01:14 AM
goldenlox is rapidly become more of a troll than supergrunt. :shrug:

I find your posts just empty. You state things that often are WRONG and ALWAYS irrelevant.

"Sharapova has a win streak of 2," that is not a win streak. To describe in such a way is to dress it up as something it isn't. Just buzz off.

goldenlox
Apr 12th, 2008, 11:14 AM
Go watch tapes of Nadal at the USO, dope

Medina
Apr 12th, 2008, 11:18 AM
"Cow on Ice" report 2: AI 3R. The cow got pushed to the limit by one of those "chickenshit clay pushers" Anabel Medina Garrigues. Used her experience to just get over the hump 7-6 5-7 7-6 :worship:

get a life, shes a clay pusher, then whats jankovic :eek:

SOA_MC
Apr 12th, 2008, 11:56 AM
Sharapova just 2 wins away from winning her first clay court title without facing one top 10 player. This has to make her the outright favorite for RG

ROCK ON MARIA:rocker2::rocker2::rocker2:

Emina.
Apr 12th, 2008, 11:58 AM
2 more matches! Go Maria!! :bounce:

sammy01
Apr 12th, 2008, 12:30 PM
the thing is maria could easily win this tournament, but shes still no match for a henin, jj, sveta, ivanovic and probably serena. so if she can avoid all of these players at the french open then she has a chance. chances are she will make the qtr finals at the french if her draw is nice (i.e she dosen't draw fran or flavia or a truely quality clay courter) before then.

joćo.
Apr 12th, 2008, 12:37 PM
Hopefully she'll be able to beat Lindsay today. :(

goldenlox
Apr 12th, 2008, 12:47 PM
the thing is maria could easily win this tournament, but shes still no match for a henin, jj, sveta, ivanovic and probably serena. so if she can avoid all of these players at the french open then she has a chance. chances are she will make the qtr finals at the french if her draw is nice (i.e she dosen't draw fran or flavia or a truely quality clay courter) before then.The whole point is that we don't know.
It's easy to say Sveta is better on clay, but if they meet at RG, there's no guarantee that Sveta wins that match.
Maria's edge is mental toughness. She is tough to keep out of slam semis.
Then she has proven she can win multiple majors.

Ballbasher
Apr 12th, 2008, 12:51 PM
Masha has done so well this week in my eyes :worship: Wasn't sure if she was able to beat Medina Garrigues on Clay,but she did :D Davenport is gonna be extremely tough but I give Masha a slight chance to win this one,too ;)

goldenlox
Apr 12th, 2008, 12:54 PM
I saw Maria's last match and she hit about 10 balls that hit the tape at the top of the net and fell back on her side, UE's that shouldn't happen.
Her game can still be effective on clay, she has to make slight adjustments to be steadier. It doesn't have to be this week. It takes more matches on clay.

sammy01
Apr 12th, 2008, 12:56 PM
The whole point is that we don't know.
It's easy to say Sveta is better on clay, but if they meet at RG, there's no guarantee that Sveta wins that match.
Maria's edge is mental toughness. She is tough to keep out of slam semis.
Then she has proven she can win multiple majors.

the point is marias mental strength is nulified by the fact that most players think they have a chance on clay. do you think AMG would have put up such a fight on hardcourts or kept breaking back in the 2nd and 3rd sets.

on red clay i'd back henin, ivanovic, jj, sveta, serena and fran to beat maria.

cellophane
Apr 12th, 2008, 01:01 PM
Who is your favourite Peak Cow on Ice?

Peak Cow Maria :inlove: or Peak Cow Lindsay :inlove:

goldenlox
Apr 12th, 2008, 01:01 PM
I've seen Sveta lose with mp twice at RG. It's never a sure thing with her.
Look at the AO, she lost to Aga.
Sharapova has a RG SF, a RG QF v Justine. She'll grind her way deep into that tournament, like she does at most tournaments.

sammy01
Apr 12th, 2008, 01:04 PM
I've seen Sveta lose with mp twice at RG. It's never a sure thing with her.
Look at the AO, she lost to Aga.
Sharapova has a RG SF, a RG QF v Justine. She'll grind her way deep into that tournament, like she does at most tournaments.

she also has a 4th round loss to safina from 5-1 up final set :o

goldenlox
Apr 12th, 2008, 01:06 PM
I remember that.. And then she lost to Jamea Jackson at Birmingham.
Maria has to be healthy and in form to be a true RG contender. So does any other contender.

Slampova
Apr 13th, 2008, 09:08 PM
Bump.

The cow has a title...
:lol:

perseus2006
Apr 13th, 2008, 09:40 PM
http://www.southparkstuff.com/images/stories/epiimgs/epi218/218_cartman_thumb_cow.gif

Maria starred in a south park episode? :eek: :eek:

So first she copies serena?'s wave and now her acting? :o:o

:bolt:

She'll be sporting a weave and beads at Charleston, no doubt! The cat suit idea didn't work because long enough ones aren't made and she couldn't lift the real Siberian Tiger hide. That's just a damn shame!

Corswandt
Apr 13th, 2008, 09:46 PM
First clay title.

Eat shit, "Crbija".

morningglory
Apr 13th, 2008, 09:46 PM
:lol: The cow just slipped herway through the ice to her first clay title! She's getting better! :bounce:

CrossCourt~Rally
Apr 13th, 2008, 09:47 PM
:worship:

Corswandt
Apr 13th, 2008, 09:53 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/LordFlasheart/capt_2f2c30d2e099495f842ffd807e1e5e.jpg

On a 5 match clay winning streak!11!!!!

faboozadoo15
Apr 13th, 2008, 09:57 PM
:woohoo:

sammy01
Apr 13th, 2008, 09:58 PM
On a 5 match clay winning streak!11!!!!

well done to her but are we calling a walkover a match win?

Corswandt
Apr 13th, 2008, 10:00 PM
well done to her but are we calling a walkover a match win?

H8t0r!

A walkover should be worth TWICE.

sammy01
Apr 13th, 2008, 10:05 PM
H8t0r!

A walkover should be worth TWICE.

cool in that case chakvetadze's on a 3 match win steak against williams sisters if a walkover/retirement counts twice lol :lol::bounce::p

SOA_MC
Apr 14th, 2008, 10:20 AM
On a 5 match clay winning streak!11!!!!

Goldenlox?:confused:

Nikkiri
Apr 14th, 2008, 10:37 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/LordFlasheart/capt_2f2c30d2e099495f842ffd807e1e5e.jpg

On a 5 match clay winning streak!11!!!!

AmAzInG!101!! :worship:

Corswandt
Apr 17th, 2008, 09:49 PM
Moo.

7 match clay winning streak!11!!!!!

goldenlox
Apr 17th, 2008, 09:56 PM
That's after a RG SF. A lot of players would like those results.
But Maria is playing these green clay events to improve, so she wins RG.

Bruno71
Apr 17th, 2008, 09:58 PM
Moo.

7 match clay winning streak!11!!!!!

6, walkovers don't count :p

pov
Apr 17th, 2008, 10:05 PM
That's after a RG SF. A lot of players would like those results.
But Maria is playing these green clay events to improve, so she wins RG.

And she has definitely improved - a lot! Better movement(footwork), variety of shots, net approaches and strategy.

AcesHigh
Apr 17th, 2008, 10:09 PM
It would be hilarious if Sharapova goes undefeated this clay season, :lol: How ironic it would be

Matt01
Apr 17th, 2008, 10:17 PM
It would be hilarious if Sharapova goes undefeated this clay season, :lol: How ironic it would be


Unless there are injuries, there's no way in hell that that will happen :lol:

ivanban
Apr 17th, 2008, 10:30 PM
Tomorrow battle of cows on ice :drool:

And Eurosport will not show it :fiery: :fiery:

Peterk07
Apr 17th, 2008, 10:40 PM
Well, I wouldn't say this about Serena. Not her favourite surface, but she can play on clay. It all depends on if she's got the mood. ;)

Archer16
Apr 18th, 2008, 07:49 PM
No milk today.

Dodoboy.
Apr 18th, 2008, 08:02 PM
Finally she gets some REAL competition :rolleyes:

Bruno71
Apr 18th, 2008, 08:20 PM
After that clay-turned-hardcourt bashing festival, I'll be interested to see how Maria does on the red stuff. I don't think it's the type of game that could be played in Berlin or Paris. Still, she's obviously not the clay court hack some think.

In The Zone
Apr 18th, 2008, 08:24 PM
Sharapova really was a cow on ice in that third set.

But again, her ability alone will "will" her to victory and beating tough players on clay. But against Venus, Serena, Henin, Ana, Jelena or Sveta -- not gonna happen.

ivanban
Apr 18th, 2008, 08:31 PM
Sharapova really was a cow on ice in that third set.

But again, her ability alone will "will" her to victory and beating tough players on clay. But against Venus, Serena, Henin, Ana, Jelena or Sveta -- not gonna happen.

Yep, agreed

Serve_volley
Apr 18th, 2008, 08:34 PM
I think Maria has a mental edge over Sveta regardless of who is better on clay, Justine might be bleh all clay season if this injury is anything serious to speak of (or if it just messes with her mind, like most of Serena's injuries). Ana will probably do well, as per usual, Venus? Maria beat her in round 3 last year, I forget the score. Venus isn't playing all that much better than Chakvetadze so I wouldn't be surprised if she lost to Maria.

But great effort by Sharapova today, she can look forward to probably at least another final next month.

matty
Apr 18th, 2008, 08:55 PM
It would be hilarious if Sharapova goes undefeated this clay season, :lol: How ironic it would be

Yah, just hilarious! :lol:

Bruno71
Apr 18th, 2008, 09:04 PM
I think Maria has a mental edge over Sveta regardless of who is better on clay, Justine might be bleh all clay season if this injury is anything serious to speak of (or if it just messes with her mind, like most of Serena's injuries). Ana will probably do well, as per usual, Venus? Maria beat her in round 3 last year, I forget the score. Venus isn't playing all that much better than Chakvetadze so I wouldn't be surprised if she lost to Maria.

But great effort by Sharapova today, she can look forward to probably at least another final next month.

Why do you think this? If anything, Sveta is the top player outside of the WS that actually seems to challenge Maria most often. Their h2h is dead even. And on clay, she's simply much more comfortable.

goldenlox
Apr 18th, 2008, 09:25 PM
I saw Maria struggle with Alona and Domi last week, and for 2 sets, she looked much better today.
I don't know how red clay will change things, but Maria is obviously motivated, she played 7 matches on green clay, some long matches, in about 10 days.

Dodoboy.
Apr 18th, 2008, 09:52 PM
I saw Maria struggle with Alona and Domi last week, and for 2 sets, she looked much better today.
I don't know how red clay will change things, but Maria is obviously motivated, she played 7 matches on green clay, some long matches, in about 10 days.

I agree, she seems really motivated this year.

She had to play this match, she will be humbled and try harder. :cool:

pepaw
Apr 19th, 2008, 06:04 AM
She put up a great fight against a former RG champ, this is probably one of her best matches on clay to date.

Congrats Maria, just a few points short, maybe next time.

Mikey B
Apr 19th, 2008, 08:26 AM
She put up a great fight against a former RG champ, this is probably one of her best matches on clay to date.

Congrats Maria, just a few points short, maybe next time.

absoloutely.. if the third set was closer i think it would have been her best match to date... these two clay court tourneys have been nothing but positive for maria.. things can only get better...

alfonsojose
May 15th, 2009, 03:01 PM
2009 :d

Mikey.
May 15th, 2009, 03:51 PM
:hearts:

jdog3008
May 15th, 2009, 04:13 PM
:crazy:

LCS
May 15th, 2009, 07:33 PM
:worship:

Corswandt
May 16th, 2009, 09:28 AM
Thread title edited.

Don't tell this to anyone, but I'm actually pleasantly surprised, relieved and hopeful at the same time with the Return of the Cow. ;)

Adal
May 16th, 2009, 09:29 AM
Exciting.

MechWarrior2k
May 16th, 2009, 03:09 PM
And the 4 semifinalists from last year's men's French Open are the top 4, what's your point? :scratch:

Since when is Monfils in the top 4....:confused:

Uranium
May 16th, 2009, 03:19 PM
Since when is Monfils in the top 4....:confused:

:o
He posted it in April 2008, refering to 2007 RG with Nadal, Fed, Djokovic and Davydenko.

Golovinjured.
May 16th, 2009, 03:52 PM
Papercut :worship:

eck
May 16th, 2009, 06:10 PM
:yeah:

partbrit
May 16th, 2009, 06:39 PM
Can't help you. Clay season is my absolute favorite.

Mikey B
May 16th, 2009, 08:19 PM
she's back!!!! woop! just what the wta needs...

Lord Choc Ice
May 16th, 2009, 10:50 PM
I'm really happy that Maria's back. Maybe she can put some certain pushers in the lower half of the Top 10 in their rightful place - the trash bag.

WowWow
May 27th, 2009, 03:20 AM
I'm really happy that Maria's back. Maybe she can put some certain pushers in the lower half of the Top 10 in their rightful place - the trash bag.

:yeah:

ROFL @ This thread:haha:

homogenius
May 27th, 2009, 05:45 AM
goldenlox and faboozadoo :rolls: :o

alfonsojose
Jun 2nd, 2009, 03:57 AM
:rolls: :yeah: Good luck , Masha

alfonsojose
Apr 7th, 2010, 03:32 AM
2004 Wimbledon
2006 USO
2008 AO
2010 Roland Garros :aparty: :rolls: :yeah: The revenge of the cow :devil:

Rafito.
Apr 7th, 2010, 03:57 AM
Clay season is the best :hearts:

nickyn4
Apr 7th, 2010, 05:23 AM
Never liked the clay season, becuase Maria never seems to do well. :/

Corswandt
Apr 7th, 2010, 10:02 AM
Sharapova w/d from Charleston.

goldenlox
Apr 7th, 2010, 10:11 AM
goldenlox and faboozadoo :rolls: :oI really thought she would win at least 1 FO before the rotator cuff injury.
Now I doubt her comeback being successful anywhere

Ryan
Apr 7th, 2010, 01:05 PM
:rolls: :yeah: Good luck , Masha

2004 Wimbledon
2006 USO
2008 AO
2010 Roland Garros :aparty: :rolls: :yeah: The revenge of the cow :devil:



Back-to-back posts almost a year apart. :bowdown:

Lord Choc Ice
Apr 7th, 2010, 01:20 PM
Maria HAS to win the FO. There's just no denying the pattern. :tape:

madmax
Apr 7th, 2010, 02:14 PM
Bring it on dirt season:banana: A cow on ice is well rested and prepared to slide her way into titles:devil:

mb011
Apr 7th, 2010, 06:02 PM
The players who win RG, Rome and Berlin are the same players who win the USO, IW, and just made the Miami final.
There's no Brugueras and no Nadals, who only win multiple RGs.

Mind you, nadal has also won Wimbledon - a total oposite to the RG.

As far as the thread topic is conserned - I love clay, and only the most skilled players are good on clay, real talents aand smart players, not just good servers and ball bashers. Clay is the best part of the season for me :)

Corswandt
Apr 7th, 2010, 09:27 PM
only the most skilled players are good on clay, real talents aand smart players, not just good servers and ball bashers.

Something which is conclusively proved by Ivanovic's successes on clay.

madmax
Apr 7th, 2010, 09:47 PM
Something which is conclusively proved by Ivanovic's successes on clay.

:haha::haha::devil: Nicely put...

tennisforadults
Apr 7th, 2010, 11:17 PM
Something which is conclusively proved by Ivanovic's successes on clay.

Yep, love watching her play on clay.

Archer16
May 22nd, 2010, 04:46 PM
(Small) One for the cow.

Are you guys asleep?
Usually on similar occasions these threads are bumped literally seconds after the tournament concludes...

njnetswill
May 22nd, 2010, 05:22 PM
It's a sign that Maria isn't the star/evil queen of this forum that she used to be. We're all obsessing over Dulgheru, Wozniacki, and Rezai instead.

Corswandt
May 22nd, 2010, 09:36 PM
(Small) One for the cow.

Are you guys asleep?
Usually on similar occasions these threads are bumped literally seconds after the tournament concludes...

I was going to bump this tonight, I swear. :o

http://i48.tinypic.com/33a5t91.jpg

Corswandt
May 22nd, 2010, 09:39 PM
It's a sign that Maria isn't the star/evil queen of this forum that she used to be. We're all obsessing over Dulgheru, Wozniacki, and Rezai instead.

+ all the Sharapova fans are pretty much entrenched at their Siberian Siren subforum and aren't very active in GM unlike say the Willitards, who have always treated GM as their own backyard. The Mashabators have got their own livescoring threads (into which I wandered by mistake a few days ago), etc.

Slutiana
May 22nd, 2010, 09:43 PM
I was going to bump this tonight, I swear. :o

http://i48.tinypic.com/33a5t91.jpg
:eek: x904094

Firstly because Barrois is taller than the Cow. And secondly because she is actually acknowledging the existence of a tennis player outside of the top 20 and even talking to her (*gasp*)!!!

This Claypova is good.

Galsen
May 22nd, 2010, 09:43 PM
:awww:Sharapova used to look so good.

:spit: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Corswandt
May 22nd, 2010, 09:45 PM
:eek: x904094

Firstly because Barrois is taller than the Cow. And secondly because she is actually acknowledging the existence of a tennis player outside of the top 20 and even talking to her (*gasp*)!!!

This Claypova is good.

:lol:

Sharapova is different nowadays I guess. She actually conceded a couple of points (you know, that wiping off the mark with her foot thing) to AMG in the SF. The Sharapova of 2006-2007 would never have done that.

Chorophyll
May 22nd, 2010, 09:48 PM
She's losing her edge. You can tell by her press conference with the "I'm just so lucky to even be a tennis player" and other things trying to wax philosophical. Can't be having that.

ce
May 22nd, 2010, 09:51 PM
Maria :awww:
adorable
i would love her to win French Open this year if JJ, Serena, Venus dont :inlove:

Slutiana
May 22nd, 2010, 09:52 PM
She's losing her edge. You can tell by her press conference with the "I'm just so lucky to even be a tennis player" and other things trying to wax philosophical. Can't be having that.
:lol:

Well I haven't seen this new Claypova yet, but i'm sure she's the same warrior on-court, and especially on clay. Can't wait to see her obliterate Henin in the 3R. :hearts:

Corswandt
May 22nd, 2010, 09:52 PM
She's losing her edge. You can tell by her press conference with the "I'm just so lucky to even be a tennis player" and other things trying to wax philosophical. Can't be having that.

I think she realizes that her career might well have ended by now. Yet she can still win a few MMs here and there, and is probably surprised at herself that she's still enjoying being a pro tennis player, even if she'll never contend for Slams again.

Chorophyll
May 22nd, 2010, 09:57 PM
:lol:

Well I haven't seen this new Claypova yet, but i'm sure she's the same warrior on-court, and especially on clay. Can't wait to see her obliterate Henin in the 3R. :hearts:

Sharaparis could only dream of such a feat.

alfonsojose
Apr 1st, 2011, 06:17 PM
C'mon :yeah: Update the title :p

Corswandt
Apr 1st, 2011, 09:58 PM
Done.

Break My Rapture
Apr 1st, 2011, 10:06 PM
:cheer:

Maria must be my favorite cow ever.

LCS
Apr 1st, 2011, 10:11 PM
:lol:

alfonsojose
Apr 2nd, 2011, 01:07 PM
Will she play Charleston?. I hope so :cheer:

Reptilia
Apr 2nd, 2011, 02:10 PM
All the Goldenlox posts at the start of this thread had me laughing so hard. :lol:

I'm so excited for the clay season! :cheer: Will be interesting to see how she does.

claypova
Apr 2nd, 2011, 04:34 PM
ew, cows :sobbing:

go maria :cheer:

Craig.
Apr 2nd, 2011, 07:18 PM
Bring it on.

Break My Rapture
Apr 2nd, 2011, 07:20 PM
The Cow On Ice will grace the claycourts of Charleston next week (hopefully). Coincidentally these courts have the same color as a cow's favorite meal. :oh:

The Daviator
Apr 2nd, 2011, 07:29 PM
Maria is 2-0 on clay in 2008, she's won 7 of her last 8 on clay, going back to her FO SF in 2007,
Maria lost her last hardcourt match, to Sveta. Lost her last grass match.
But has a clay winning streak.

I liked goldenlox much more before he became a Pova fanboy.

OMG :bigcry:

Goldie was so fanatical about Sharapova in early '08, she brainwashed him for a couple of months, thankfully Dinara started her run in Berlin to distract him :sobbing:

goldenlox
Apr 2nd, 2011, 07:58 PM
Maria used to be a really good player. I thought she could overcome clay.
She's not the same player after the surgery.

VeeReeDavJCap81
Apr 2nd, 2011, 08:15 PM
The Cow On Ice will grace the claycourts of Charleston next week (hopefully). Coincidentally these courts have the same color as a cow's favorite meal. :oh::lol:

claypova
Apr 3rd, 2011, 02:02 AM
The Cow On Ice will grace the claycourts of Charleston next week (hopefully). Coincidentally these courts have the same color as a cow's favorite meal. :oh:

cow on ice's return is delayed til Madrid :o

hurricanejeanne
Apr 3rd, 2011, 02:35 AM
Cow on Ice Season is love. :hearts:

BuTtErFrEnA
Apr 3rd, 2011, 02:38 AM
OMG :bigcry:

Goldie was so fanatical about Sharapova in early '08, she brainwashed him for a couple of months, thankfully Dinara started her run in Berlin to distract him :sobbing:

i remember the days...

maria has won 1 slam in the past 15mnths while ws have not...
if they continue like this she will surpass them both


:sobbing: so classic

Break My Rapture
Apr 3rd, 2011, 02:43 PM
cow on ice's return is delayed til Madrid :o
Blue clay. :scared:

Corswandt
Apr 3rd, 2011, 03:04 PM
Goldie was so fanatical about Sharapova in early '08, she brainwashed him for a couple of months, thankfully Dinara started her run in Berlin to distract him :sobbing:

Her, according to ancient TF wisdom. ;)

Anyway, that was a fairly brief stage in goldenbot's long and distinguished career of trolling at WTAW/TF; a temporary U-turn made necessary by the sadly ephemeral SuperMasha v. 2.0 actually playing vs Israel in the infamous Chamber Pot Tie in early 2008. Before that, Martha was the TF sacred cow goldenbot ragged on the most, mostly on account of the Fed Cup.

There were hundreds (literally hundreds - I'm sure you're all familiar with goldenbot's saturation M.O. by now) of posts by goldie going:

Maria is yet to play Fed Cup for Russia.
She says she wants to, but she never does.
The other players, Nastya, Lena, Sveta, don't want her there. They say she isn't a real Russian and doesn't want to play for Russia.

brickhousesupporter
Apr 3rd, 2011, 03:09 PM
Maria used to be a really good player. I thought she could overcome clay.
She's not the same player after the surgery.
Going by your track record for being right about player potential, I have faith that Caro will not achieve half of what you said she would.

goldenlox
Apr 3rd, 2011, 05:21 PM
Going by your track record for being right about player potential, I have faith that Caro will not achieve half of what you said she would.She is already a YE #1 with 14 titles, still with plenty of tournaments to play until she is 21.
I didnt forsee Maria's injury. She had done a lot by age 20, and was starting 2008 like she was never better.

Slutiana
Apr 3rd, 2011, 06:05 PM
My favourite part of the year. :inlove:

Mistress of Evil
Apr 3rd, 2011, 06:28 PM
Her, according to ancient TF wisdom. ;)

Anyway, that was a fairly brief stage in goldenbot's long and distinguished career of trolling at WTAW/TF; a temporary U-turn made necessary by the sadly ephemeral SuperMasha v. 2.0 actually playing vs Israel in the infamous Chamber Pot Tie in early 2008. Before that, Martha was the TF sacred cow goldenbot ragged on the most, mostly on account of the Fed Cup.

There were hundreds (literally hundreds - I'm sure you're all familiar with goldenbot's saturation M.O. by now) of posts by goldie going:

Maria is yet to play Fed Cup for Russia.
She says she wants to, but she never does.
The other players, Nastya, Lena, Sveta, don't want her there. They say she isn't a real Russian and doesn't want to play for Russia.

that's a new one :lol: I've seen slamchapm use chinkenpox :p

goldenlox
Apr 3rd, 2011, 06:41 PM
that's a new one :pThats from one of the idiots trolling Wozniacki threads last year or 2. The Wozniacki haters dont like me :cool:

WozLolz
Apr 3rd, 2011, 07:18 PM
that's a new one :lol: I've seen slamchapm use chinkenpox :p

It's G:hearts:ldenf:inlove:x, dude.

Umm, yeah, let's go clay. :cheer:

Corswandt
Apr 3rd, 2011, 08:58 PM
that's a new one :lol:

Credit to TF poster Hurley.