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pengluv
Mar 12th, 2008, 06:52 PM
Bartoli to Navratilova: Enough Already
by John Koblin | August 30, 2007 | Tags: StyleMarion BartoliMartina NavratilovaUS Open

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Marion Bartoli.


Marion Bartoli begs to differ -- strongly -- with tennis legend Martina Navratilova's assessment of her game.

Bartoli told me yesterday that she didn't care for Navratilova's criticism when the 5759-time Grand Slam champion told the The New York Times, "[Bartoli] can beat a top-10 player here and there, but not day in and day out. For that, you need better movement."

Bartoli, who made a surprise run to the Wimbledon Finals, has been teased for her conditioning and her physical appearance. She's had enough.

"This really makes me nuts," she said. "You can't be in the final of Wimbledon if you can't move. I mean how impossible to beat the number one in the world [Justine Henin] in the semifinal if not moving great.

"And I beat Jelena Jankvoic, the number three in the world, and she moves so well. If you don't move well you cannot beat her, there is no way. So you cannot throw this kind of thing in the air and say 'she is a bad mover, she is not a great athlete.' You cannot say that, there is no way. So maybe Martina Navratilova is not right every time

http://www.observer.com/2007/bartoli-navratilova-enough-already

lol

TennisGuy21
Mar 12th, 2008, 07:00 PM
LOL! good for marion!

pengluv
Mar 12th, 2008, 07:05 PM
all i remember narvat sayin is how fat she was... marina needs to go bac to prague

Slutati
Mar 12th, 2008, 07:08 PM
They are both extremely annoying.

serenus_2k8
Mar 12th, 2008, 07:09 PM
Lay off Bartoli, its so dull to hear her criticised over and over again.

pov
Mar 12th, 2008, 07:10 PM
To put this in context, this all had to with Bartoli's weight:

---- iht ---

While Bartoli earned that respect at Wimbledon, her figure prompted criticism. She is listed as 58 kilos, or 128 pounds, hefty for a woman of 1.70 meters, or 5 feet 7 inches.

Martina Navratilova, an analyst during the Wimbledon coverage, talked about Bartoli's weight on television. In a recent interview, Navratilova said that Bartoli could be a top-five player but that she was too heavy and too slow.

"She can beat a top-10 player here and there, but not day in and day out," Navratilova said. "For that, you need better movement. But it just shows how good she is and how well she hits the ball. She doesn't have the foot speed, but she still gets the job done."

----

Article is HERE (http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/08/26/america/BARTOLI.php)

justine schnyder
Mar 12th, 2008, 07:22 PM
Golovin must like Martina now

venus_rulez
Mar 12th, 2008, 07:56 PM
I thought martina was going back to the Czech Republic? I wish she'd get on with it already.

hablo
Mar 12th, 2008, 08:13 PM
While Bartoli earned that respect at Wimbledon, her figure prompted criticism. She is listed as 58 kilos, or 128 pounds, hefty for a woman of 1.70 meters, or 5 feet 7 inches.


:haha:

128 pounds is NOT hefty for someone who's height is 5'7. :rolleyes:

(There is no way Bartoli weighs that little.)

Denise4925
Mar 12th, 2008, 08:15 PM
:yeah: Good for Bartoli. :lol:

UDACHi
Mar 12th, 2008, 08:17 PM
i love that marion always sticks up for herself, no matter who it's to. :lol:

Dave.
Mar 12th, 2008, 08:17 PM
I have full respect for Martina in all she went through in life and all her off-court battles, plus her amazing on-court achievements.

But I dislike her as a commentator/critic. She says some things that just annoy me so much. Marion is a great player and all this critiscm of her game is boring. They complain when the top 10 is too dull, then when someone new arrives, they complain more. Good for Marion sticking up for herself. :yeah:

Denise4925
Mar 12th, 2008, 08:18 PM
To put this in context, this all had to with Bartoli's weight:

---- iht ---

While Bartoli earned that respect at Wimbledon, her figure prompted criticism. She is listed as 58 kilos, or 128 pounds, hefty for a woman of 1.70 meters, or 5 feet 7 inches.



Are you joking? :confused:

Keaka
Mar 12th, 2008, 08:18 PM
:haha:

128 pounds is NOT hefty for someone who's height is 5'7. :rolleyes:

(There is no way Bartoli weighs that little.)

:haha: yeah, so true...

Demska
Mar 12th, 2008, 08:19 PM
Cos he game is the total opposite of what Marina stood for,

Denise4925
Mar 12th, 2008, 08:20 PM
:haha:

128 pounds is NOT hefty for someone who's height is 5'7. :rolleyes:

(There is no way Bartoli weighs that little.)

Sorry Barti, but more like 148 at the very least at that height.

Barbarela
Mar 12th, 2008, 08:22 PM
:haha:

128 pounds is NOT hefty for someone who's height is 5'7. :rolleyes:

(There is no way Bartoli weighs that little.)


It's impossible, 58 kilos it's of someone thiny for a height of 1,70m. Someone is joking here!;)

Dodoboy.
Mar 12th, 2008, 08:29 PM
I love Marion for this!

She shouldn't be critised for an outstanding tournament and it definitely shouldn't be brushed aside as a one of!

She shows she has the ability to beat some players...she may not be able to do it day in and day out but i am very sure she will do it again:yeah:

Go Marion :woohoo:

dwynn10
Mar 12th, 2008, 08:29 PM
I have full respect for Martina in all she went through in life and all her off-court battles, plus her amazing on-court achievements.

But I dislike her as a commentator/critic. She says some things that just annoy me so much. Marion is a great player and all this critiscm of her game is boring. They complain when the top 10 is too dull, then when someone new arrives, they complain more. Good for Marion sticking up for herself. :yeah:

Bahwahwah! When Bartoli can do a two-handed serve, in addition to all her other two-handed "accomplishments," I "two" will acknowledge she's a great player. :devil:

DA FOREHAND
Mar 12th, 2008, 08:33 PM
bECAUSE Martina has a fat mouth that she doesn't know how to keep shut. YOu've receieved your Czech citizenship, BOUNCE

mauresmofan
Mar 12th, 2008, 09:19 PM
Martina might know what she's talking about cause before she was a model of physical excellence she too was overweight and sluggish. I think Bartoli is overweight and her movement isn't great too and she really needs to lose some weight to move on to the next level - maybe she should ring Monica and ask what she did to lose the weight as there is more than just a passing resemblance to both their physiques and games.

mckyle.
Mar 12th, 2008, 09:25 PM
While Bartoli earned that respect at Wimbledon, her figure prompted criticism. She is listed as 128 pounds, hefty for a woman of 5 feet 7 inches.

Are you kidding me? Hefty?

Maybe this is why women are anorexic :shrug:

spiceboy
Mar 12th, 2008, 09:38 PM
Navratilova said that Bartoli could be a top-five player but that she was too heavy and too slow.

"She can beat a top-10 player here and there, but not day in and day out," Navratilova said. "For that, you need better movement. But it just shows how good she is and how well she hits the ball. She doesn't have the foot speed, but she still gets the job done."


In bold what the journalist said :rolleyes::rolleyes:

The rest is what Martina said...couldn't agree more. I don't think anyone can deny that. Marion with a better movement would be top 5 in no time and would be beating top 10 regularly. Which is what she doesn't do now, like it or not

venus_rulez
Mar 12th, 2008, 10:05 PM
This comment is especially annoying cause even when she played she was always the first to talk about crowd support against her and some of the media's hurtful comments and she makes says some of the most insensitive things.

Andy T
Mar 12th, 2008, 10:11 PM
Nobody's pointed out that Marion's results since Wimbledon add weight (pardon the pun) to Martina's assessment.....

Bartoli's record since Wimbledon: Played 37 matches, won 19, lost 18. Top 5 players beaten: 2 - and that includes Jankovic's retirement at YEC

-also, since when did saying someone would be a consistently better player if she got into better shape equal 'hating someone's game so much'??

nytrainer
Mar 12th, 2008, 10:28 PM
Martina has a good point. If marion were more fit and weighed less she would be a better tennis player. Martina is speaking her mind and i respect her for it.

Marion, if you need meal plans and progressively intense training, contact me and i will help you to help yourself. :)

Bruno71
Mar 12th, 2008, 10:37 PM
Nobody's pointed out that Marion's results since Wimbledon add weight (pardon the pun) to Martina's assessment.....

Bartoli's record since Wimbledon: Played 37 matches, won 19, lost 18. Top 5 players beaten: 2 - and that includes Jankovic's retirement at YEC

-also, since when did saying someone would be a consistently better player if she got into better shape equal 'hating someone's game so much'??

I agree with this and with Martina (who, as Spiceboy pointed out, did NOT say anything about her weight, at least not in that article). The fact that she showed she's capable of beating top 5 players but then losing to lesser ranked players in droves just illustrates her point. And anyone in this thread telling Martina to go back to the Czech Republic is just upset with her over other issues.

pov
Mar 12th, 2008, 10:51 PM
bECAUSE Martina has a fat mouth that she doesn't know how to keep shut. YOu've receieved your Czech citizenship, BOUNCE
This from someone who tags their posts with the quote:
"Hatred is the coward's revenge for being intimidated" - George Bernard Shaw
:haha:

BTW Who is the "you" that's being addressed in the second sentence in that profound bit of wisdom?
:haha: :haha:

toxina90
Mar 12th, 2008, 11:00 PM
If Bartoli lost some weight she would be ten times better and could beat top 10 players day in and day out.

Kart
Mar 12th, 2008, 11:12 PM
Martina is right but Marion's entitled to be sick of hearing it.

She's not stupid, she knows what she has to do without it being repeated ad nauseam.

Super_Marion
Mar 12th, 2008, 11:43 PM
this, again..

treufreund
Mar 13th, 2008, 12:21 AM
Martina I love you but please lay off the "cake". No reason to say those things really even though Bartoli seems annoying sometimes.

kwilliams
Mar 13th, 2008, 12:23 AM
Bartoli had one great tournament. I don't think it's fair of her to say she has great movement because she beat Henin and Jankovic at Wimbledon, what did she do after Wimbledon that exemplified her fantastic movement? She may be sick of hearing it but it's probably true and one event doesn't refute that.

As for Navratilova she is too critical. I wonder where a Navratilova in her prime would feature in the top 10 of today? We'll never know but the game has certainly progressed since her day and she may be like many others, a great player but one who possibly wouldn't be as consistent as she was back in her day.

cheo23
Mar 13th, 2008, 12:25 AM
They are both extremely annoying.

Oh My Goddd!!!! You are Absolutely Right!!!!!

SV_Fan
Mar 13th, 2008, 12:33 AM
Marion needs to put Martina on blast. I like Bartoli's game, alot.

pov
Mar 13th, 2008, 12:35 AM
I wonder where a Navratilova in her prime would feature in the top 10 of today? We'll never know but the game has certainly progressed since her day and she may be like many others, a great player but one who possibly wouldn't be as consistent as she was back in her day.

That's irrelevant and could be said about any player in any sport at any time. There are a couple things that many seem to be ignoring probably because the article initially posted only took some of what she said (the media can give a slant to anything:

- She was a commentator bat the event. That means she was being asked to comment on players.

- She complimented Bartoli's talent.

Her words were: "She can beat a top-10 player here and there, but not day in and day out," Navratilova said. "For that, you need better movement. But it just shows how good she is and how well she hits the ball. She doesn't have the foot speed, but she still gets the job done."

If that is too critical then I don't know what it would be acceptable for any commentator to say about anyone.

Matt01
Mar 13th, 2008, 12:37 AM
That's irrelevant


Exactly.

I agree with Martina.

goldlion
Mar 13th, 2008, 12:38 AM
Marion,

Aside from being a surprising Wimbledon finalist last year, what other achievements have you made?

You so deserve criticism, considering your performance starting from 2008 and your ranking.

Dubai, Doha: Round 32

Sydney: Round 16

Paris: SF

Australian Open: 1st Round but being top 10 seeded?

I rarely see you play well and ur movement is definitely VERY slow.

Lose some weight girl, and stop being stubborn.

Martina might not be true all the time, but this time she is telling the truth.

kiwifan
Mar 13th, 2008, 12:54 AM
Often in life those who have gone from flabby to fit have added contempt for the flabby...

...its actually a bit of self loathing.

And its actually the most unhealthy form of self loathing because you can't really argue that being more fit isn't better.

Message good (in general), Motive questionable (in practice). :shrug:

Elldee
Mar 13th, 2008, 12:54 AM
People are reacting in a sensationalised way to a sensationalised story. Reading the direct quotes from Martina within context illustrates that she was showing no disrepect to Bartoli. In fact she, IMO, is being more complimentary about Marion's talent than I would. I don't think movement is that much of an issue for Marion [because she puts her heart into running down balls and getting balls back] but more consistency and her serve.

toasino
Mar 13th, 2008, 01:22 AM
It seems as though Bartoli played the match of her life, so far, the day she beat Justine at Wimbledon. Since then she has done nothing. It would help her game if she lost some weight and discontinued some of the more ridiculous exercises her father forces one her. She, along with Sveta, needs a new coach.

DefyingGravity
Mar 13th, 2008, 01:24 AM
I think Martina realizes the talent that a physically more fit Bartoli could have. She's got the game, and I remember watching her play here in 2002 when she was WAY skinnier. She had the same amount of power she does now as a skinnier girl, and had much better mobility before, but now that she's ballooned some, she's working harder to maintain the mobility.

Martina sees that Bartoli's strokes are pretty darn good, and she's got good hands.

toasino
Mar 13th, 2008, 01:28 AM
Bartoli had one great tournament. I don't think it's fair of her to say she has great movement because she beat Henin and Jankovic at Wimbledon, what did she do after Wimbledon that exemplified her fantastic movement? She may be sick of hearing it but it's probably true and one event doesn't refute that.

As for Navratilova she is too critical. I wonder where a Navratilova in her prime would feature in the top 10 of today? We'll never know but the game has certainly progressed since her day and she may be like many others, a great player but one who possibly wouldn't be as consistent as she was back in her day.

Most of the greatest players of earlier eras, with todays equipment and training programs, would be at least as good as any of todays very best players.

colt13
Mar 13th, 2008, 03:16 AM
I like Martina, but she might be the most critical announcer out there(US). However Bartoli(as well as Safina) is below 40 in the year end race so she's struggling.

mirzalover
Mar 13th, 2008, 03:23 AM
I think Martina realizes the talent that a physically more fit Bartoli could have. She's got the game, and I remember watching her play here in 2002 when she was WAY skinnier. She had the same amount of power she does now as a skinnier girl, and had much better mobility before, but now that she's ballooned some, she's working harder to maintain the mobility.

Martina sees that Bartoli's strokes are pretty darn good, and she's got good hands.

Yup I agree if she got in shape and just improved her movement she really would play better and it would improve her stamina. If she lost like 8 pounds that would help alot, its not like she has to lose 40 pounds or something. Just lose a tiny bit of fat and tone up some.

SvetaPleaseWin.
Mar 13th, 2008, 03:24 AM
Bartolis not a great mover but shes a better mover than she looks

her slump isnt cos of her movement, shes generally not playing well-IMO she played extremely well at Wimby but she cant do it week in week out yet

rockstar
Mar 13th, 2008, 03:52 AM
good that marion is sticking up for herself, but she gives herself way too much credit :tape:

she should have been like "i make up for it in other areas" instead of "i move great"


it's also extremely irritating how she keeps harping about how she beat the world no 1 and 3, considering she hasnt done much since...

partbrit
Mar 13th, 2008, 03:52 AM
Bartoli is a decent mover, but nothing more. She has the Seles style, but unlike Monica--who could just stand at the baseline and kill--Marion is inconsistent. If Marion could be consistent at the baseline, it wouldn't matter, but since she isn't, yes--she needs to be a better mover. And I'm saying this as somewhat of a Bartoli fan.

switz
Mar 13th, 2008, 04:03 AM
Martina won 5759 grand slams :confused:

Marion should cover Martina in ketchup and eat her like pomme frites

dylan24
Mar 13th, 2008, 04:36 AM
martina knows that cake is the biggest fraud ever to reach a GS final.

dylan24
Mar 13th, 2008, 04:37 AM
bartoli does not weigh 128.
more like 150

SvetaPleaseWin.
Mar 13th, 2008, 04:44 AM
martina knows that cake is the biggest fraud ever to reach a GS final.

martina probably thinks martinez is :p

Slutati
Mar 13th, 2008, 04:46 AM
Yes Marion weighs 128.But kilos, not pounds.

-VSR-
Mar 13th, 2008, 05:16 AM
Martina Navratilova, needs to get a life and stay away from the tennis world. No one wants or likes to listen to her, it's horrible.

Indytennis
Mar 13th, 2008, 05:43 AM
Martina Navratilova, needs to get a life and stay away from the tennis world. No one wants or likes to listen to her, it's horrible.

Umm dont say that NO one likes her..if you dont like her then say you dont like her. Martina has done more for the sport of tennis than arguably anyone to set foot on the court.
So many people are so quick to jump all over her but try actually reading what she said not what just the headline says.
Martina's only fault here IMO is being WAY to generous/complimentary in her comments regarding Bartoli.

Dunlop1
Mar 13th, 2008, 05:44 AM
I don't know that Martina hates Bartoli's game, but I'll tell you why I hate her game:

It is fugly!!

She has a ridiculous serve, fug looking groundstrokes, she's overweight and to top it off she's not even cute (that could have at least been a mitigating factor).

I think it is embarassing that she is in the top 10 and hope she gets bounced soon.

rockstar
Mar 13th, 2008, 06:31 AM
I don't know that Martina hates Bartoli's game, but I'll tell you why I hate her game:

It is fugly!!

She has a ridiculous serve, fug looking groundstrokes, she's overweight and to top it off she's not even cute (that could have at least been a mitigating factor).

I think it is embarassing that she is in the top 10 and hope she gets bounced soon.

:lol:

Renalicious
Mar 13th, 2008, 08:30 AM
Martina needs to STFU. Stupid bitch. :fiery:

maumau
Mar 13th, 2008, 09:02 AM
some posts crack me up :haha:

Pasta-Na
Mar 13th, 2008, 09:25 AM
maybe martian would like her a bit if she put a bit make-up :o

TatiNovic
Mar 13th, 2008, 09:25 AM
Oh!!
What a strong words from Marion

So Disrespectful
Mar 13th, 2008, 10:01 AM
Marion moved terribly last time I saw her against Schiavone a few weeks ago. She looks bigger than ever and couldn't keep the ball in the court.

If she'd just work on her conditioning, she has solid strokes and a pretty good serve to her credit. If she wants to be taken seriously, she should lose some pounds.

And there's no way she weighs 128. Those are my statistics and people often remark on how thin I am. She'd be at least 155.

cardio
Mar 13th, 2008, 11:21 AM
To be fair, Navratilova was always obsessed with fitness and worked very hard to stay fit during her long-long career. She just cant stand when talented player like Bartoli underachieves because she is overweight. Lets compare

Harvs
Mar 13th, 2008, 11:24 AM
coz shes fugly and has a shit game...

HAHA KIDDING.

no shes got a very unconventional game, i personally cant stand to watch it... so yeah??

Adal
Mar 13th, 2008, 11:24 AM
Martina didn't say anything rude. I mean, Bartoli IS a bad mover.

Miranda
Mar 13th, 2008, 11:25 AM
pls don't exagerrate, martina did not hate bartolis' game, she just gave her some advice :rolleyes:
Bartoli to Navratilova: Enough Already
by John Koblin | August 30, 2007 | Tags: StyleMarion BartoliMartina NavratilovaUS Open

Getty Images
Marion Bartoli.


Marion Bartoli begs to differ -- strongly -- with tennis legend Martina Navratilova's assessment of her game.

Bartoli told me yesterday that she didn't care for Navratilova's criticism when the 5759-time Grand Slam champion told the The New York Times, "[Bartoli] can beat a top-10 player here and there, but not day in and day out. For that, you need better movement."

Bartoli, who made a surprise run to the Wimbledon Finals, has been teased for her conditioning and her physical appearance. She's had enough.

"This really makes me nuts," she said. "You can't be in the final of Wimbledon if you can't move. I mean how impossible to beat the number one in the world [Justine Henin] in the semifinal if not moving great.

"And I beat Jelena Jankvoic, the number three in the world, and she moves so well. If you don't move well you cannot beat her, there is no way. So you cannot throw this kind of thing in the air and say 'she is a bad mover, she is not a great athlete.' You cannot say that, there is no way. So maybe Martina Navratilova is not right every time

http://www.observer.com/2007/bartoli-navratilova-enough-already

lol

Dorcas Monjimbo
Mar 13th, 2008, 12:04 PM
Yes Marion may be on the fat side but I don't think she reached Wimbledon finals by chance. She beat Jankovic and went on to beat Justine at the semi finals and these two players move well.It is good to criticise because it makes room for improvement but it shouldn't over ride the positive side.

Adal
Mar 13th, 2008, 12:55 PM
I don't understand the ones praising Bartoli right now :O
Again she keeps saying "Well, I reached Wimbledon final. That means I'm not a bad mover, I'm fit and I'm amazing and etc etc." instead of really working hard on her fitness and improving her movement. That's why we don't see good results from her now. She's still living at 07 Wimby. And if she's not gonna change her attitude, she won't get any good results

skanky~skanketta
Mar 13th, 2008, 01:31 PM
To put this in context, this all had to with Bartoli's weight:

---- iht ---

While Bartoli earned that respect at Wimbledon, her figure prompted criticism. She is listed as 58 kilos, or 128 pounds, hefty for a woman of 1.70 meters, or 5 feet 7 inches.

Martina Navratilova, an analyst during the Wimbledon coverage, talked about Bartoli's weight on television. In a recent interview, Navratilova said that Bartoli could be a top-five player but that she was too heavy and too slow.

"She can beat a top-10 player here and there, but not day in and day out," Navratilova said. "For that, you need better movement. But it just shows how good she is and how well she hits the ball. She doesn't have the foot speed, but she still gets the job done."

----

Article is HERE (http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/08/26/america/BARTOLI.php)
That's the stupidest thing i've EVER heard.:fiery:

thomas.chung
Mar 13th, 2008, 01:40 PM
I think Martina's comment may have a little bit of merit there. The reason is that Bartoli after her amazing Wimbledon run, had a dismal rest of the year. Beating the number one in the world? She got her ass whooped at the YEC love-and-love by that very same number one in the world. She should be thankful that an injured Serena pushed Justine Henin. Now since this thread is neither about Serena nor Justine, let's not go further.

Kudos for Marion for sticking up for herself and to her unorthodox training method. Whatever it was it certainly worked for her at Wimbledon. However, her recent result just doesn't prove much about her conditioning and training. So maybe it is time to change a bit?

partbrit
Mar 13th, 2008, 02:12 PM
No one wants or likes to listen to her, it's horrible.

Speak for yourself--not for me.

davidmario
Mar 13th, 2008, 02:31 PM
martina is right but...

marion:rocker:

hayleytrotter
Mar 13th, 2008, 02:52 PM
look at her results since wimbledon. not good, martina played for a long time and marion is... well.... maybe not as fit as the other girls who have better success. maybe martina is right this time marion.

Sammm
Mar 13th, 2008, 04:34 PM
When was the last time Marion beat a top 10 player? I think it was Chakvetadze in Luxembourg last year. Or Jankovic at the WTA end of year champs. So Wimby 2007 doesn't prove she's a good mover. She's really out of form , it's not particularly her movement, which is OK, but her whole game is very lacklustre at the moment. She really needs to pick up points now whilst she's seeded, because she will fall a long way after Wimby :sad:

nazgul82
Mar 13th, 2008, 09:50 PM
Marion looks wider than higher. Sad but almost true. And with the weight, well she is at least 70kg. No doubt. She must do something, or after this season she will be out from top32 or even top50.

beecharmer
Mar 13th, 2008, 10:01 PM
Well Navratilova was a butterball so MAYBE that's why she's being a bitch

beecharmer
Mar 13th, 2008, 10:02 PM
but honestly, she's just a bitch

Il Primo!
Mar 13th, 2008, 11:41 PM
I don't know that Martina hates Bartoli's game, but I'll tell you why I hate her game:

It is fugly!!

She has a ridiculous serve, fug looking groundstrokes, she's overweight and to top it off she's not even cute (that could have at least been a mitigating factor).

I think it is embarassing that she is in the top 10 and hope she gets bounced soon.

Where do I co-sign?

pengluv
Mar 14th, 2008, 12:29 AM
If bartoli's game is so insulting... you might as mark justine and jankovic in wimbledon as trash.... Martina doesnt like bartoli and it is that way period..... this reminds me of when people were criticzing serena for not being fit she still beat people... give cake eater sometime

pengluv
Mar 14th, 2008, 12:30 AM
On the note even though overweight her game is better than any current two hander on tour

frontier
Mar 14th, 2008, 12:43 AM
I like Bartoli because she is unique and doesnt follow the crowd.....simply uncoventional maybe thats what bothers Martina .

nelsondan
Mar 15th, 2008, 09:49 PM
bartoli does not weigh 128.
more like 150

Sounds right. Can you correct this whole list?

Height And Weight Stats
by SuperMarion @ 2008-03-07 - 17:52:05
Top 20 Ranked Players
(Height / Weight)

1). Justine Henin
5' 5.75" (167cm) 126lbs

2). Ana Ivanovic
6' 1" (185cm) 152lbs

3). Svetlana Kuznetsova
5' 8.5" (174cm) 161lbs

4). Jelena Jankovic (ok)
5' 9.5" (177cm) 130lbs

5). Maria Sharapova
6' 2" (188cm) 130lbs

6). Ana Chakvetadze
5' 7" (170cm) 128lbs

7). Venus Williams
6' 1" (185cm) 160lbs

8). Daniela Hantuchova
5' 11.25" (181cm) 137lbs

9). Marion Bartoli
5' 6.75" (170cm) 128lbs

10). Elena Dementieva
5' 11" (180cm) 141lbs

11). Serena Williams
5' 9" (175cm) 150lbs

12). Patty Schnyder
5' 6.25" (168cm) 125lbs

13). Tathiana Golovin
5' 9" (175cm) 133lbs

14). Nicole Vaidisova
6' 0" (183cm) 139lbs

15). Dinara Safina
5' 11.5" (182cm) 154lbs

16). Nadia Petrova
5' 10.25" (178cm) 143lbs

17). Shahar Peer
5' 7" (170cm) 132lbs

18). Agnes Szavay
5' 7" (171cm) 139lbs

19). Agnieszka Radwanska
5' 8" (172cm) 123lbs

20). Sybille Bammer
5' 9" (174cm) 139lbs

sarciness
Mar 16th, 2008, 01:31 AM
Seriously... Nothing Navratilova has said is extreme or untrue. What's the problem!? Bartolli WOULD be better if she had decent movement! I personally like Martina for her honesty and hard-hitting comments! About time someone came out and said what everyone else was thinking and too scared to say!

gotthebend
Mar 16th, 2008, 11:40 AM
Why would Martina give Marion advice and compliment if she hates Marion?

She should just say Marion can eat whatever delicacies she wants,
and compliment on her "great" movement.:devil:

tennistuff
Mar 16th, 2008, 01:15 PM
I am a Martina fan But sometimes I think she looks to say things to get everyone talking. And she is in great shape for her age so she thinks evryone should do the same. But when she was younger her shape was not great either.

supergrunt
Mar 16th, 2008, 02:18 PM
Tell 'em Marion :yeah: .