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GoDominique
Mar 10th, 2008, 05:35 AM
After this one I will never post another thread on Dokic, I promise. :angel:

Since it's now obvious that she's back into hiding and not playing anytime soon I am interested in some speculation (with Dokic, it's always just that) on what her trip to Australia was all about. Because I don't really get it.

First of all, was she initially serious about wanting to play again full-time?

If yes, when do you think did she get derailed, and at what point did she give up completely, and what were the reasons? What was her real mindset after she lost in the AO qualifying, or when she left Australia? Or do you think it all has to do with mental issues, like depression for example?

If no, what do you think was her real motivation to go through this ordeal? The money, because she's broke? A place to live for a few months? Just a vacation, or a weight-loss program?

Please post your thoughts on this matter.

LudwigDvorak
Mar 10th, 2008, 05:37 AM
she beat three top 100 players!11 stop being a hater1111

Isn't she playing some Italian 10ks soon?

GoDominique
Mar 10th, 2008, 05:39 AM
she beat three top 100 players!11 stop being a hater1111

Isn't she playing some Italian 10ks soon?
Unlikely, in my opinion.

njnetswill
Mar 10th, 2008, 05:49 AM
Her comeback in January was so promising, with top 100 wins and everything.

Now she is becoming a regular no-show on the ITF circuit again, and not even entering the Aussie 25ks with poor fields where she can get some wins.

I'm sorry everyone. Dokic is done. For the final time.

brayster87
Mar 10th, 2008, 05:50 AM
It better be your last thread!

GoDominique
Mar 10th, 2008, 06:25 AM
It better be your last thread!
Unlikely.

switz
Mar 10th, 2008, 06:29 AM
i think the comeback was all about altruism. she sensed your life was very empty and felt by coming back she would give you something to obsess about and hence a reason to live :o

cellophane
Mar 10th, 2008, 06:29 AM
I don't know what's up with her... but she doesn't seem serious about putting in the work.

GoDominique
Mar 10th, 2008, 06:33 AM
i think the comeback was all about altruism. she sensed your life was very empty and felt by coming back she would give you something to obsess about and hence a reason to live :o
Well if that was true then she was even more altruistic than you realise. After all, you are quite busy being obsessed with myself, so Dokic's comeback gave you more reason to follow me around and by that some meaning to your life. :)

switz
Mar 10th, 2008, 06:35 AM
I don't know what's up with her... but she doesn't seem serious about putting in the work.

she lost 15 kilos in 3 months. that would have been easy :tape: as has been said she also beat 3 top 100 players during the Australian summer having not played competitive tennis for a very long time.

i'm not a particularly big fan or anything but i'll give her at least until mid year to make some noise. she is very injury prone so it's not all about laziness in my opinion.

GoDominique
Mar 10th, 2008, 06:38 AM
i'm not a particularly big fan or anything but i'll give her at least until mid year to make some noise.
Yup, certainly an advisable strategy to sit out another 6 months after playing for just a few weeks. :lol:
You are a riot.

switz
Mar 10th, 2008, 06:40 AM
Well if that was true then she was even more altruistic than you realise. After all, you are quite busy being obsessed with myself, so Dokic's comeback gave you more reason to follow me around and some meaning to your life. :)

ouch :o yes i can't help myself. i just love you so much but i know i can never have you so i mask those feelings with my hostile attitude in your oh so intelligent and original threads :lol:

switz
Mar 10th, 2008, 06:44 AM
Yup, certainly an advisable strategy to sit out another 6 months after playing for just a few weeks. :lol:
You are a riot.

yes that is exactly what i said. it's not like i actually said i will hold my judgment until mid year to see if she does anything before then. oh wait that is exactly what i said :tape:

GoDominique
Mar 10th, 2008, 07:15 AM
yes that is exactly what i said. it's not like i actually said i will hold my judgment until mid year to see if she does anything before then. oh wait that is exactly what i said :tape:
You know what I mean, so don't act dumber than you already are. :)
If she's not playing now, well I think it tells us all we need to know. Only deluded fanboys would have to wait until mid year to have confirmed what is already crystal-clear.

mckyle.
Mar 10th, 2008, 07:20 AM
GoDom :hearts:

The ultimate realist and spin-killer :worship:

switz
Mar 10th, 2008, 07:39 AM
You know what I mean, so don't act dumber than you already are. :)
If she's not playing now, well I think it tells us all we need to know. Only deluded fanboys would have to wait until mid year to have confirmed what is already crystal-clear.

people who don't really care are just as likely to wait as well. it's not about Dokic for me, i'd stick up for any player who was being incessantly written off by an armchair critic (even Henin or Sharapova who i have been known to criticise myself in the past). i'm happy for you to think of me as a deluded fanboy though :)

DimaDinosaur
Mar 10th, 2008, 07:48 AM
Are you RetardSlam558 by any chance?

rada
Mar 10th, 2008, 07:52 AM
I think something must be up she can't just give up after all that hard work she put in. Give her a few more months if nothing then i guess she might be back for AO 2009?

Golovinjured.
Mar 10th, 2008, 09:45 AM
I don't think I'll ever give up on Jelena, even though it seems more and more unlikely that she'll play. I just wish we had some word from her about the whole comeback ordeal.

I honestly think that had she made the AO MD, whether it be from WC or qualifying, and had a MD win I think she would have continued in her comeback.

I think her mother may have had some influence on her moving back to Zagreb, and I blame Tennis Australia for showing little interest in Dokic and her playing future.

If she had a plan implemented by Tennis Australia to stick by, I think her comeback would have cotinued. Say compete in the WTA Australian summer, and then stay in Australia and NZ and play the ITF Circuit until say April, and then hit the European clay in preparation for Roland Garros, whether it be at a WTA or ITF level.

I think this was her chance to have an amazing comeback, and reach atleast the top 50, and if she doesn't play very soon she may have to kiss this chance goodbye.

Petersmiler
Mar 10th, 2008, 11:03 AM
Oh no, GoDom had predicted that Jelena is done........again. My dreams have ended, I must give up on her now. How can I have been so stupid to have supported her all this time? Why did I still have hope despite all the setbacks?
Thank you GoDom, without you I would still be wasting my life waiting for her return!
(Petersmiler goes to Dokic's Domain to see whether she has entered anything.......)

Just Do It
Mar 10th, 2008, 11:39 AM
My Last Thread On Dokic: What Was Her "Comeback" All About?

I hold you on that.

Experimentee
Mar 10th, 2008, 12:38 PM
I don't think I'll ever give up on Jelena, even though it seems more and more unlikely that she'll play. I just wish we had some word from her about the whole comeback ordeal.

I honestly think that had she made the AO MD, whether it be from WC or qualifying, and had a MD win I think she would have continued in her comeback.

I think her mother may have had some influence on her moving back to Zagreb, and I blame Tennis Australia for showing little interest in Dokic and her playing future.

If she had a plan implemented by Tennis Australia to stick by, I think her comeback would have cotinued. Say compete in the WTA Australian summer, and then stay in Australia and NZ and play the ITF Circuit until say April, and then hit the European clay in preparation for Roland Garros, whether it be at a WTA or ITF level.

I think this was her chance to have an amazing comeback, and reach atleast the top 50, and if she doesn't play very soon she may have to kiss this chance goodbye.

She could have played the Australian ITFs if she wanted to, with or without a plan from TA.

And she did refuse coaching from them in her last 'comeback' so I dont think shes shown that she wants any help from them.

She has probably just lost motivation again, likes she done so many times in her other comeback attempts.

Havok
Mar 10th, 2008, 02:43 PM
Nobody knows what the hell is going on in her life right now. Her life was screwed up all throughout her tennis career, just that obviously when she was younger she was able to push that aside because she had the hunger for it and an actual support system. Even if her father was fucked in the head, she didn't realize at that age what a retard he was so she was always surrounded by her family and was never alone.

Once she grew a brain and left him, he went all psycho and she pretty much had no family after that. Kind of hard to find motivation in anything once that happens. There are no clear reasons behind her simply stopping after a promising month in her attempt at a true comeback January of this year, which simply means nobody will be able to give you a straight forward answer as to why except for Jelena herself.

So (1) stop asking because nobody knows, and (2) please get a life; it's unhealthy for people to be on these boards 24/7. There are things out there in this world, go enjoy them please.:) Being nosy and wanting to know everything about a player you don't really care for shouldn't be happening in the first place. There's a reason we don't like people and therefor couldn't give two shits about them. GoDom is obviously a closet Dokic fan.

Il Primo!
Mar 10th, 2008, 02:48 PM
:lol: at GoDom. Actually he has a point.
And I still don't get how people can believe in a comeback (the 9th to begin with). And I still don't get why Dokic's fans get so mad each time you expose the reality. (Axarus expects some nasty and injustified badreps)
This board is just off the chain!:haha:

Golovinjured.
Mar 10th, 2008, 03:03 PM
:lol: at GoDom. Actually he has a point.
And I still don't get how people can believe in a comeback (the 9th to begin with). And I still don't get why Dokic's fans get so mad each time you expose the reality. (Axarus expects some nasty and injustified badreps)
This board is just off the chain!:haha:

I'm not exactly mad, just disappointed. After her great start in January its sad to see all her hardwork go down the drain. In all honesty, aslong as she's happy, whether it being away from the spotlight or playing competitive tennis, I couldn't be happier for her. But I'll always maintain hope of a comeback, whether it be false hope or otherwise, until Jelena herself tells us otherwise.

Should this short stint in Australia be the last we see of her on the court, I hope she knows she had success unknown to hundreds of competitive players. A Wimbledon semifinal and highest rank of #4 are enough to be proud of, let alone wins over the likes of Hingis, Clijsters, Venus Williams etc and the many legions of fans she gained. I wish her the best of luck in the rest of her life, and hope that she's happy whatever she's doing, wherever she is, after what she's been through in her life so far she deserves atleast that.

Behind you forever Jelena :hug:

Shvedbarilescu
Mar 10th, 2008, 03:55 PM
I think quite simply Dokic suffers from depression. I don't think there is any need to explain why that might be. But she is not alone. There are several other girls who have fallen by the wayside over the last few years. Probably as many have disappeared as the result of emotional problems as physical problems. Tennis is a very very difficult tough demanding unforgiving sport. To succeed at it you have to be strong emotionally. You have to be motivated to a level folks like myself could not imagine. The thing about some of these girls who comeback sporadically, and Dokic isn't the only one, is that it is possible to fight hard for a few weeks or even a couple of months but to reestablish a tennis career takes a good year of pretty constant focus. For someone who suffers depression that is next to impossible.

vutt
Mar 10th, 2008, 03:57 PM
yeah...

:rocker2: GoDominique :rocker2:

Steffica Greles
Mar 10th, 2008, 06:55 PM
It's like I said in January, when people said my doubts were unfounded.

WhatTheDeuce
Mar 10th, 2008, 08:05 PM
I agree with ChrisCHorse. I think it's all related to depression. I honestly can't see any other plausible reason as to why she would just stop so abruptly without a word after making the claims she did. She's probably in an awful frame of mind for one reason or another, and it's sad, cause I've suffered with depression myself and it can be completely debilitating.

I hope with whatever's going on, she can find a way to be happy again, whether that involves playing tennis or not. And perhaps she should think twice about making such strong statements about her tennis comeback without being truly sure if she's mentally prepared for it.

I miss her, and I wish her the best.

mirzalover
Mar 10th, 2008, 08:51 PM
I love her and wish her the best. Venus and her are the reason I started playing tennis. I remember when I got my very first own tennis racquet after playing with my dads and we went to the sporting store and I told my dad i would not leave this store until I had Jelena Dokic's tennis racquet and thats the only one I'm willing to except.

-Sonic-
Mar 10th, 2008, 11:41 PM
I think she's hiding from her scary fanatics.

Karolina_Sprem
Mar 11th, 2008, 10:15 AM
As far as I know she is back to Zagreb because she is having some private problems in her family. Her mum has joined her in Zagreb...
Jelena will give an interview soon to one croatian magazine!!!

Just Do It
Mar 11th, 2008, 12:26 PM
As far as I know she is back to Zagreb because she is having some private problems in her family. Her mum has joined her in Zagreb...
Jelena will give an interview soon to one croatian magazine!!!

I hope you are right.

SM
Mar 13th, 2008, 01:58 AM
why doesnt she just seperate herself from the drama and just play tennis!

Wiggly
Mar 13th, 2008, 02:15 AM
Yeah, she could play in Australian Challengers?

calico_101
Mar 13th, 2008, 02:38 AM
I agree that it is probably due to depression. The truth is, she has no support system in the way of her family & hasn't had for a long time.

Losing one's family can sink the strongest of people, never mind a young girl like Dokic....

SvetaPleaseWin.
Mar 13th, 2008, 03:26 AM
shes a low ranked Australian so she only plays in the Aussie summer

Steffica Greles
Mar 13th, 2008, 04:06 AM
I'm not unsympathetic to depression, but look, here's a girl who was in the top five in the WORLD at one time.

Purely from a financial perspective, is the kind of money she could earn even as a top fifty, or moreover, as a top hundred player not in the least bit cheerful?

It's baffling that a player with minimal top fifty talent EVEN NOW can be so inert as to forego the financial incentive of prize money and sponsorships. Not to mention the comeback stories for which she could reel in the cheques.

As it is, Dokic must be rather broke. It was the same in the case of Mirjana Lucic. Why do players with world class talents just drop of the track?

When I've been depressed, it's rooted in feeling myself to be not much good at anything, with no prospects to make money or better myself. Dokic, to a much greater extent than flash-in-the-pan Lucic, has already proved herself at the highest level, and made millions of dollars.

It's all very strange.

esquímaux
Mar 13th, 2008, 11:04 AM
She can always opt for the Alexandra Stevenson approach :tape:;)

Serenidad.
Mar 13th, 2008, 11:50 AM
Who knows but as Dokic was blunt about other players lets be blunt about her.

She'll never do anything significant again. She's done.

~Eclipsed~
Mar 13th, 2008, 08:19 PM
She can always opt for the Alexandra Stevenson approach :tape:;)

Then that would at least mean she is out there playing. :shrug:

~Eclipsed~
Mar 13th, 2008, 08:23 PM
She is still signed up for some $10ks...hopefully she is training hard to play those, but i have a bad feeling she is not.

What i want to know is if she really is having "family problems"? What is it all about? I never heard of someone have so many family problems. She's a grown woman...when will she ever get smart and stay away. I dont' get her. :confused:

WhatTheDeuce
Mar 13th, 2008, 09:29 PM
She needs to write a book. She must.

Steff_forever
Mar 13th, 2008, 10:04 PM
Don't know what it is this time :shrug:
But I counted her out already last time she has hidden.
Maybe GoDo should write of all the Geman girls who never came back and were so promising :kiss:

oh, GoDo, oh what a lonely boy..
must be a real fan of my Jelena...

And I really doubt this will be your last thread on her, just wait some months ;)

Keaka
Mar 13th, 2008, 10:51 PM
I agree :o

But positevely, wanted her to comeback.

But after having such great momentum, she should keep playing tournaments. Unless she's injured...

switz
Jan 21st, 2009, 11:37 AM
You know what I mean, so don't act dumber than you already are. :)
If she's not playing now, well I think it tells us all we need to know. Only deluded fanboys would have to wait until mid year to have confirmed what is already crystal-clear.

:tape: couldn't help myself. let's await the justification and attempt to belittle Dokic's performance.

Golovinjured.
Jan 21st, 2009, 12:40 PM
:haha:

She had a plan after all, it seems. :hearts:

BuTtErFrEnA
Jan 21st, 2009, 01:08 PM
wow great bump :tape:

GoDominique
Jan 21st, 2009, 01:25 PM
She beat two slumping players in three sets. Congrats!

Viktymise
Jan 21st, 2009, 01:26 PM
Ouchies.

GoDominique
Jan 21st, 2009, 01:27 PM
Well if that was true then she was even more altruistic than you realise. After all, you are quite busy being obsessed with myself, so Dokic's comeback gave you more reason to follow me around and by that some meaning to your life. :)
QED.

volta
Jan 21st, 2009, 01:28 PM
*howls* :haha: :haha:

Petersmiler
Jan 21st, 2009, 02:05 PM
You could at least have the decency to blush a little bit.

GoDominique
Jan 21st, 2009, 02:07 PM
You could at least have the decency to blush a little bit.
Why?

Do 2 (two) decent matches make for a successful comeback? That's news to me.

Why not wait and see whether she goes back into hiding next month or not. :)

Petersmiler
Jan 21st, 2009, 02:18 PM
Why?

Do 2 (two) decent matches make for a successful comeback? That's news to me.

Why not wait and see whether she goes back into hiding next month or not. :)

But you predicted that she would disappear altogether, not that she wouldn't have a successful comeback. Indeed, two matches may not indicate a successful comeback but it's still two more matches than you thought she would even play. And after beating an (alright slumping) top 20 player, I think it unlikely she will just disappear again. After all, I believe she is just inside the Top 150 now.

I think it may be the delight you appear to feel at her troubles that does not endear you to her fans. You can hardly blame them for having a little laugh at your expense.

new-york
Jan 21st, 2009, 02:20 PM
last year or so, it was pretty relevant to wonder where her career would really go.

GoDominique
Jan 21st, 2009, 02:22 PM
Fair enough.

However, guide me to the parts of my original posts that are laughable.
After a decent start she did waste the rest of the year, and now she openly talks about her troubles with depression.

This now is not the same comeback, it's another one under different circumstances. If she's over her depression things might work out, who knows. :)

Petersmiler
Jan 21st, 2009, 02:30 PM
As my idol once sang "Kick them on the way up, kick you on the way down".

We may well be down again soon and I'm sure you're pulling your big boot back in preparation......

GoDominique
Jan 21st, 2009, 02:34 PM
Not really. I'm not one to gloat. :)

Also it has always been about her "fans" who cared more about her $10K results and commitments than her mental health.