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viele
Mar 9th, 2008, 06:16 AM
I don't wanna make the same mistake we Americans seem to make when it comes to young players. We tend to overhype them and put an amazing amount of pressure on them to live up to the hype. And then when they don't live up to our expectations we over-criticize them. Despite all of that, I am really excited about Asia Muhammed's prospect, as well as Brengle and Vanderwhege(sp?), but especially Muhammed. I've been following her since first learning about her at last year's Las Vegas challenger and can't help but think her recent success is a sign of great things to come. Any other thoughts?

spiritedenergy
Mar 9th, 2008, 06:21 AM
Barack Hussein Obama, Asia Muhammed... are the states turning into a pasdaran revolutionary country?

Wolverines08
Mar 9th, 2008, 06:24 AM
I guess it depends on the expectations you put on them...I've been following Asia since she was 11 so I've seen the growth and improvement...when she was 11 she didn't really have a backhand. Well she did, but it was just a shot she hit because she had to, but her forehand was BIG...now, alot more people think her backhand is bigger than her forehand...in person she defintely looks taller than 5"8 mor like 5"10 and she's going to get even taller. Her serve is exceptionally well defined for her age...she doesn't just hit her serve, she knows where she wants it to go. It's also good to see how well Tim helped her to develop a nice kick on her 2cd serve which you don't see alot in female players. Not to mention she's very brave at net, and has really good volleys for her age...Alot of young players practice them, but when they get into a match they don't come to net...she'll come to net with ease.

Sir Stefwhit
Mar 9th, 2008, 06:25 AM
http://picsrv.usta.com/?fif=/usta/usta/img_13_15496.jpg&obj=iip,1.0&wid=159&hei=240&rgn=0,0,0,0&cvt=jpeg
RANKING HISTORY
2006 – 5* (USTA 14s), 9* (USTA 16s)
2005 – 3* (USTA 14s), 7* (USTA 16s)
2004 – 4* (USTA 14s)
2003 – 5* (USTA 12s)
* Denotes highest ranking achieved during the year.

JUNIOR HIGHLIGHTS
I couldn't find her stats for 2007 or 2008?
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2004/Apr-29-Thu-2004/photos/asia.jpg

2006

* Won the girls’ 18 singles title at Mike Agassi's NO QUIT Championships, a USTA L3 event held in Las Vegas.
* Won the girls’ 18 doubles title (with Brittany Augustine) at the USTA National Clay Court Championships.
* Finished runner-up in singles and reached the doubles semifinals (with Tara Eckel) at the girls’ 18 Muterspaw Championships.
* Was a doubles finalist (with Keri Wong) and singles quarterfinalist at the girls’ 16 Easter Bowl, USTA Spring National Championships.

2005

* Advanced to the doubles semifinals (with Daisha Hill Hurtado) at the girls’ 16 Orange Bowl.
* Reached the doubles semifinals (with Brittany Augustine) at the girls’ 18 Chanda Rubin Evert American ITF Jr Circuit 2005, an ITF Grade 4 event.
* Finished runner-up in doubles (with Jade Frampton) at the girls’ 16 Wilson Jr. Championships.
* Won the doubles title (with Brittany Augustine) at the girls’ 16 USTA National Clay Court Championships.
* Was a doubles finalist (with Brittany Augustine) at the girls’ 14 BNP Paribas Cup in Paris.
* Reached the singles semifinals at the girls’ 16 Roxy Junior Championships.
* Finished runner-up in singles and doubles (with Brittany Augustine) at the girls’ 16 USTA National Open Championships in Elk Grove, Calif.
* Won the doubles title (with Brittany Augustine) and advanced to the singles quarterfinals at the girls’ 16 Easter Bowl, USTA Spring National Championships.
* Reached the doubles semifinals (with Brittany Augustine) and the singles quarterfinals at the Chanda Rubin ITF Junior Circuit - College Station, Texas.
* Was a singles semifinalist at the girls’ 16 USTA National Open Championships, held in February in Lakewood, Calif.
* Won the doubles title (with Brittany Augustine) at Les Petits As, the most prestigious 14-and-under event in the world held annually in Tarbes, France.
* Advanced to the singles semifinals and doubles quarterfinals (with Brittany Augustine) at Teen Tennis, another big event for players’ aged 14-and-under, held in Telford, England.

2004

* Reached the singles quarterfinals at the girls’ 14 Junior Orange Bowl.
* Won the girls’ 14 doubles title (with Krista Damico) and reached the singles quarterfinals at the USTA National Hard Court Championships.
* Won the girls’ 14 doubles title (with Krista Damica) and reached the singles semifinals at the USTA National Clay Court Championships.
* Advanced to the singles semifinals at the girls’ 16 USTA National Open Championships, held in July in Lakewood, Calif.
* Swept the singles and doubles titles (with Shauna Morgan) at the girls’ 14 USTA National Open Championships held in May in Park City, Utah.
* Finished runner-up in singles at the girls’ 14 Muterspaw Championships.
* Won the girls’ 14 doubles title (with Krista Damico) at the Easter Bowl, USTA National Spring Championships.

2003

* Reached the singles semifinals at the girls’ 14 California Bowl.
* Advanced to the doubles quarterfinals (with Jordana Kono) at the girls’ 12 USTA Super National Clay Court Championships.
* Was a singles quarterfinalist at the girls’ 12 Roxy Open.

PERSONAL

* Began playing tennis at age 8.
* Favorite playing surface is hard court.
* Is coached by Tim Bienkiron.
* Enjoys shopping, hanging out with friends, movies, computers and music in her spare time.

mboyle
Mar 9th, 2008, 06:36 AM
Isn't she 17? She's too old. You have to be ranked top 100 before your 18th birthday if you're going to win a slam, and most top ten players were ranked top twenty by age 18 (not all, but vast majority.)

mirzalover
Mar 9th, 2008, 06:38 AM
Isn't she 17? She's too old. You have to be ranked top 100 before your 18th birthday if you're going to win a slam, and most top ten players were ranked top twenty by age 18 (not all, but vast majority.)

Turning 17 next month.

mboyle
Mar 9th, 2008, 06:38 AM
Barack Hussein Obama, Asia Muhammed... are the states turning into a pasdaran revolutionary country?

This is so sad. :sad: As an American, I accept people of all backgrounds into my country with open, loving arms, so long as you have peaceful intentions. Barack Obama is an evangelical Christian. Asia is a Muslim I think, but so what? Most Muslims are peaceful.

Sir Stefwhit
Mar 9th, 2008, 06:45 AM
This is so sad. :sad: As an American, I accept people of all backgrounds into my country with open, loving arms, so long as you have peaceful intentions. Barack Obama is an evangelical Christian. Asia is a Muslim I think, but so what? Most Muslims are peaceful.

You should do what I do. The only time I ever see spiritedenergy's post are when someone like you quotes him, he's been on my ignore list for so long. That ignore function works wonders!

Wolverines08
Mar 9th, 2008, 07:13 AM
This is so sad. :sad: As an American, I accept people of all backgrounds into my country with open, loving arms, so long as you have peaceful intentions. Barack Obama is an evangelical Christian. Asia is a Muslim I think, but so what? Most Muslims are peaceful.

Lol...Asia IS NOT MUSLIM!!! Trust me!

safinismine
Mar 9th, 2008, 07:31 AM
Lol...Asia IS NOT MUSLIM!!! Trust me!


Hmmm...why do you say that ? Her last name indicates that she is, whether she's a practising Muslim or not is another matter.

hkyen
Mar 9th, 2008, 07:38 AM
Hope she can have a good future with other young americans

viele
Mar 9th, 2008, 08:17 AM
Isn't she 17? She's too old. You have to be ranked top 100 before your 18th birthday if you're going to win a slam, and most top ten players were ranked top twenty by age 18 (not all, but vast majority.)

You may or may not be right about that but I think it's sad nonetheless that you can have your entire career and future dismissed if you don't achieve certain things by 17 yo! Jeez! \

Anyway, I said nothing about her being a grand slam champion. I would just like her to have a solid pro career instead flaming out like so many promising young americans seem to do.

Sassy-Na
Mar 9th, 2008, 08:34 AM
her name is so special... Asia :hearts:

azza
Mar 9th, 2008, 08:47 AM
yes

OsloErik
Mar 9th, 2008, 09:16 AM
I'm optimistic, but tennis is crazy. I thought Tulyaganova and Bedanova would be duking it out for slams, and they were pushing the top 10 at 20 years old. Until I see a player hitting the top 20/10, I stay guarded, especially nowadays when injuries can be so much worse than in the 80's.

Lucyxx
Mar 9th, 2008, 09:26 AM
Those who have followed her since 16 knew she was one to look out for. She has the schooling and knowledge to be a steady top 100 player the majority of her career.

Highlandman
Mar 9th, 2008, 11:43 AM
She seems to be on a good way now.

With Malek, Czink & Bychkova, and also Brengle she had great wins in this tournament so far, which is just her second one in 2008 after an early loss in La Quinta. If she continues like that, she can maybe have a good future.

With Czink she has also beaten (maybe even trashed) a player now against who she got trashed in New York '07, so it looks like she has improved a lot since this time. It's also nice to see she wins so close matches (Malek/Bychkova) against players who have normally much more experience.

exposbabe
Mar 9th, 2008, 12:29 PM
I saw her play last year at a Fed Cup qualifier and I must say she stood out.
Statuesque, stunning girl with legs a mile long, so that was one thing.

But what most impressed me was her net game. Her ability to transition and move forward.

But before everyone rushes her onto the tour, let's be reminded that this type of complete game takes a lot longer to develop and mature. You have to master so many more things.

That's why no one does it; the coaches want the players to win in the juniors, so they constantly work on forehands and backhands and nothing else. And that's how they all play. And when they turn pro, it's too late to add any other dimensions. And so they don't.

Hopefully, with this one, people will give her the time she needs to work on that looks to be a potentially "new-wave" game in this current generation of tennis.

Natash.
Mar 9th, 2008, 01:24 PM
You may or may not be right about that but I think it's sad nonetheless that you can have your entire career and future dismissed if you don't achieve certain things by 17 yo! Jeez! \

Anyway, I said nothing about her being a grand slam champion. I would just like her to have a solid pro career instead flaming out like so many promising young americans seem to do.

Agreed. :o

bwahahahahaha
Mar 9th, 2008, 01:29 PM
I saw her play last year at a Fed Cup qualifier and I must say she stood out.
Statuesque, stunning girl with legs a mile long, so that was one thing.

But what most impressed me was her net game. Her ability to transition and move forward.

But before everyone rushes her onto the tour, let's be reminded that this type of complete game takes a lot longer to develop and mature. You have to master so many more things.

That's why no one does it; the coaches want the players to win in the juniors, so they constantly work on forehands and backhands and nothing else. And that's how they all play. And when they turn pro, it's too late to add any other dimensions. And so they don't.

Hopefully, with this one, people will give her the time she needs to work on that looks to be a potentially "new-wave" game in this current generation of tennis.

Great post.

Freakan
Mar 9th, 2008, 01:32 PM
yes.

Sally Todd
Mar 9th, 2008, 04:25 PM
Anyone who has seen Asia play knows she has much more potential than the other US girls. (Though I haven't seen Brodsky.)

She's still only 16, so her game is definitely in a state of transition, with a lot of rough edges. That's what makes her results this week really encouraging -- she's won close matches through mental toughness.

Also, the Czink scoreline does show she's improved a ton since last fall.

Asia is going to have to hit the ball much harder, especially on the forehand side, to reach top 50 in the next couple of years. But I think she'll be able to. Right now she's a little gawky and still growing, and so is her game. No need to hurry. I like the fact that she isn't playing tons of events.

She has more 'big babe' potential than any US woman I've seen in the last 5 years at least. Great backhand, nice kick serve, and I like the fact that she volleys.

Wolverines08
Mar 9th, 2008, 04:48 PM
Anyone who has seen Asia play knows she has much more potential than the other US girls. (Though I haven't seen Brodsky.)

She's still only 16, so her game is definitely in a state of transition, with a lot of rough edges. That's what makes her results this week really encouraging -- she's won close matches through mental toughness.

Also, the Czink scoreline does show she's improved a ton since last fall.

Asia is going to have to hit the ball much harder, especially on the forehand side, to reach top 50 in the next couple of years. But I think she'll be able to. Right now she's a little gawky and still growing, and so is her game. No need to hurry. I like the fact that she isn't playing tons of events.

She has more 'big babe' potential than any US woman I've seen in the last 5 years at least. Great backhand, nice kick serve, and I like the fact that she volleys.

Great Post!!!

Wannabeknowitall
Mar 9th, 2008, 05:26 PM
She reminds me a lot of Chanda Rubin, a new generation version of Chanda.

Everything about her game is good. Good volleys, good movement, good serve, the groundstrokes are sufficent.
The return needs to be better but other than that.

Her willingness to come to net and actually hit a true volley is something that's missing in today's game.

I could see her in the top 30 in 3-4 years.

tennisbuddy12
Mar 9th, 2008, 07:44 PM
The only other time I saw Asia play (tv this week) was in Lawrenceville this past October against Gail Broadsky. Both will be something when they get older. Asia outplayed Gail in the end and it was a close 3 setter. Since then, Asia has improved so much and she changed from a Head racket to a Prince....maybe that has been helping her?

Im so proud for her but she still may be deciding going to college. She really does like USC.

mckyle.
Mar 9th, 2008, 07:47 PM
Isn't she 17? She's too old. You have to be ranked top 100 before your 18th birthday if you're going to win a slam, and most top ten players were ranked top twenty by age 18 (not all, but vast majority.)

This is true for past generations, but if you'll notice, most younger players are taking longer to develop their games. And the veterans (Venus, Serena, Justine, etc) are making it harder for those younger girls to make it into the Top 10.

Jakeev
Mar 9th, 2008, 08:00 PM
I believe this week was her most significant week in any pro event right? She beat a ton of great players, albiet she didn't exactly make it look easy through the tournament.

She probably ran out of gas against Pin today, a type of player she will probably not lose too easy to again in the future.

matty
Mar 9th, 2008, 09:08 PM
Isn't she 17? She's too old. You have to be ranked top 100 before your 18th birthday if you're going to win a slam, and most top ten players were ranked top twenty by age 18 (not all, but vast majority.)

Well then according to your criteria, she has a whole year to reach the top 100.

égalité
Mar 9th, 2008, 09:23 PM
Isn't she 17? She's too old. You have to be ranked top 100 before your 18th birthday if you're going to win a slam, and most top ten players were ranked top twenty by age 18 (not all, but vast majority.)

This isn't true anymore. Age restrictions make it harded for younger players to be in the top 100. Amelie wasn't ranked in the top 100 by age 18, and it's definitely not true anymore that most top 20 players were in the top 20 by age 18.

~Eclipsed~
Mar 9th, 2008, 09:42 PM
yes.

she has a nice game and has a lot of potential, but until we see how she handles the grind of the tour on a weekly basis, no one can say she is gonna be the next big thing in tennis.

Lindsayfan32
Mar 10th, 2008, 06:09 AM
The so called tennis experts said once Lindsay she had hit 20 her chance of winning a slam had passed her by. Then 2 years later she won one for the next three years. There is such thing as late bloomer Lindsay is great proof of that. I don't know much about Asia but she sounds like a player to watch.

LudwigDvorak
Mar 10th, 2008, 08:25 AM
I was really impressed by her game in Las Vegas. She needs a lot of growth in her game, but she'll get there. I hope. I can imagine her being a favorite of mine if I can see more of her on TV. I remember finding Wozniacki here in the final last year, and that's when I started liking her. Las Vegas. :hearts:

By the way, she is GORGEOUS. And also kind of, like, you know, she just kinna talks like a valley girrrrrl. Hahahah! :unsure:

BarsonlyOne
Mar 10th, 2008, 08:33 AM
i dont think so. but we never really know how her career would be at this point. she does have a very good game at an early age. I must also admit that after watching her play, i too am excited, especially for the fact that America needs some young bloods out there. and having age as an indicator of how successful a player is in their career isnt really accurate. perhaps age can be used as an indicator of grand slam champion success as many past grand slam champions, truly successful players won their first titles while they were teenagers. sure there have been phenoms and players that have been highly profiled, but it isnt the end all.