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TheBoiledEgg
Sep 15th, 2001, 05:13 PM
All the best Elena for rest of 2001 <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

I'm sure you'll get back to your best again very soon.

SloKid
Mar 7th, 2008, 01:37 PM
Old thread. (http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=4416)

Enjoy the new one as much as you did the old one.

Corswandt
Mar 7th, 2008, 01:44 PM
"vol. 2" is lame.

saint2
Mar 7th, 2008, 01:45 PM
pff...

SloKid
Mar 7th, 2008, 01:50 PM
"vol. 2" is lame.
TBE can change it into anything he wants. :p Or you guys can tell me and I'll change it. We have to make a temporary change not to confuse people. I guess when the old thread falls off page 1, I can change this title back to the old one.

goldenlox
Mar 7th, 2008, 02:02 PM
The others will fall off page 1 in a few days.
This is the spring and summer thread. It will prbably get 5,000 posts by then.

miffedmax
Mar 7th, 2008, 02:30 PM
How about ED Fan Club II: The Return in honor of what our girl does so well.

Danči Dementia
Mar 7th, 2008, 05:11 PM
yeah something new....a new name.....I don´t like this volume 2 thing either

UDACHi
Mar 7th, 2008, 05:38 PM
basically the clay/grass aka lena's nightmare cheering thread. :)

miffedmax
Mar 7th, 2008, 07:00 PM
ED Fan club: The Second Set?

Shoulderpova
Mar 7th, 2008, 07:47 PM
I don't get this. I miss the old thread and was waiting for it to set a record of the longest thread of WTA :fiery:
Allez Lena :fiery:

Paco
Mar 7th, 2008, 08:10 PM
the vol.2 is pretty stupid. But on the other hand what can we do?
Lets just make this thread as the biggest one :D

anyway I can't wait to see Lena playing again ;)

Demska
Mar 7th, 2008, 08:40 PM
Urgh. Where were we...

Viktymise
Mar 7th, 2008, 08:42 PM
Its just not the same. :sobbing:

Lena herself would not be best pleased I imagine!

E.Dementieva_FAN
Mar 7th, 2008, 08:45 PM
C'mon Lena! ;):)

Dementinator
Mar 7th, 2008, 08:47 PM
The powers that be at WTAWorld have fucked it all up big time, not that they care of course.

Rix643
Mar 7th, 2008, 08:58 PM
Well, I must admit that this thread seems to respond faster than the previous one.

And don't y'all worry: this will soon be the thread (if you can still call it that way) with the most volumes/sets/chapters whatsoever.

Let's see if we can make it to vol.4 before the end of this season!!

saint2
Mar 7th, 2008, 09:05 PM
First they are censoring my posts, and then they are close theards without a reason...Is here a still right to breath? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 7th, 2008, 10:02 PM
This thread sucks

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 7th, 2008, 10:05 PM
As a measure of protest we should not write in here anymore or we should make spam in here to reach ASAP the post number 5000 and ruin the administrator plans

I like the first option

HenryMag.
Mar 7th, 2008, 10:08 PM
I don't like it too...But the reason why we are here it's not to complain about old/new thread....Let's forget about, since the Administrators wont't change it, and support the golden goddess Elena Dementieva!!

Go Elena!!

saint2
Mar 7th, 2008, 10:08 PM
As a measure of protest we should not write in here anymore or we should make spam in here to reach ASAP the post number 5000 and ruin the administrator plans

I like the first option

second seems to be more fun.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 7th, 2008, 10:12 PM
Yes ,to make this thread a chat thread with nothing related to tennis

How is the life in Poland saint2 ?

saint2
Mar 7th, 2008, 10:17 PM
OK. Nice weather, spring is comming :bounce::bounce:

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 7th, 2008, 10:20 PM
Here in Chile , 20 more days of Summer

saint2
Mar 7th, 2008, 10:23 PM
Here in Chile , 20 more days of Summer

There are any other seasons than summer here? :p

miffedmax
Mar 8th, 2008, 12:53 AM
I don't like it too...But the reason why we are here it's not to complain about old/new thread....Let's forget about, since the Administrators wont't change it, and support the golden goddess Elena Dementieva!!

Go Elena!!

Exactly. Let's keep our positive mental energy flowing to the Golden Goddess, the all-time bebanged cutie in the history of the WTA, the one, the only, the true, the incomparably adorable Elena Dementieva!

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 8th, 2008, 12:59 AM
Fellows , we should not write here anymore

We are following orders like cheeps and I hate that .

this thread should die slowly

Alenyaa
Mar 8th, 2008, 01:11 AM
Maybe the high powers on this board should just put a big middle finger in their logo, as that would perfectly represent how they feel about their users.

Anyhoo, here goes volume 2!

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 8th, 2008, 01:15 AM
Alenyaa , you will accept this new thread :sad:

Nobody is rebel in here :sobbing: .

Alenyaa
Mar 8th, 2008, 01:18 AM
Feel free to copy my new signature :angel:

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 8th, 2008, 01:29 AM
Why we don´t create another cheering thread in the Gardens of Edem ?

The shit which I don´t like is this ... Enjoy the new one as much as you did the old one . Fucking great , a dictator tell us what we have to do and we accept that like cheeps

I mean , this thread should be deleted and we will see what we do in our own forum (Gardens of Edem ), there is no reason to follow orders. That is my idea , I don´t know what the rest think

Corswandt
Mar 8th, 2008, 01:34 AM
Feel free to copy my new signature :angel:

Too whiny.

Alenyaa
Mar 8th, 2008, 01:37 AM
Well, it is the way I feel. But I respect your opinion.

Dementinator
Mar 8th, 2008, 09:25 AM
Well, it is the way I feel. But I respect your opinion.

I wouldnt respect his opinion if I were you, anyhow, I dont like it, I think the people running this board are assholes and are only in it to make $$ but there is not much we can do, and I am not going to refuse to post here because theres too many good folks I would miss and if we keep posting 5000 will be reached soon and the mods will have to do it again and again and again which will make it such a pain in the ass they will wish they hadnt bothered.

GO Lena you AFR

miffedmax
Mar 8th, 2008, 11:30 AM
Our beloved isn't even playing, at we're filling up our 2nd volume faster than anyone else. Just wait a couple weeks and we'll be into volume 3 before you know it.

Dan23
Mar 8th, 2008, 12:43 PM
:lol: another thread to re-subscribe to....hopefully this one can be a little more peaceful between the variously aligned posters ;) :hatoff:

Dementinator
Mar 8th, 2008, 01:10 PM
not gaonna happen.

Dementinator
Mar 8th, 2008, 04:28 PM
God bless her little cotton socks.

Demska
Mar 8th, 2008, 06:49 PM
:mad:

Fricking Serena, Venus has a MP :mad:

Shoulderpova
Mar 8th, 2008, 07:00 PM
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
and shes not playing in IW :o

Demska
Mar 8th, 2008, 07:07 PM
yup. is it the sisters who never play indian wells cos one of them gave a w/o to another in the final one year. :tape: :rolls:

this is just another reason why not playing indian wells is a dumb idea

goldenlox
Mar 8th, 2008, 07:13 PM
I don't understand it. Top 2 seeds at IW are Ana and Sveta. Lena just beat both of them.
If Sharapova draws in the other half, there would be a great chance of a rematch of the 2006 final.

Miami will have Sharapova. And Henin, both Williams and everyone else.

saint2
Mar 8th, 2008, 07:16 PM
I don't understand it. Top 2 seeds at IW are Ana and Sveta. Lena just beat both of them.
If Sharapova draws in the other half, there would be a great chance of a rematch of the 2006 final.

Miami will have Sharapova. And Henin, both Williams and everyone else.

Elena is simply not reasonable in making scheldule. I think after years we all learned it...

Demska
Mar 8th, 2008, 07:20 PM
I don't understand it. Top 2 seeds at IW are Ana and Sveta. Lena just beat both of them.
If Sharapova draws in the other half, there would be a great chance of a rematch of the 2006 final.

Miami will have Sharapova. And Henin, both Williams and everyone else.

Yup. I mean Hantuchova won Indian Wells last year, beating Na Li in the SF :tape:

that says something about IW field.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 8th, 2008, 07:23 PM
Serena is not the problem there (top ten). Actually , I like her as top ten , Bartoli is the player who should not be top 10 and another player , but I won´t say her name

Paco
Mar 8th, 2008, 08:42 PM
well for sure Lena can't play too much. And for sure she could be ready for IW but as it was said she's going to play a lot so maybe skipping it is good idea
Anyhow the worst thing is that I have to wait more to see her back on court ;)

SloKid
Mar 8th, 2008, 08:43 PM
But IW gave us one of Lena's all time best wins.

That comeback against Justine from 2-6 2-5 to win 2-6 7-5 7-5 was something special. :drool:

But yeah, March through May is the most gruelling period every year, esp. since a big chunk is on clay, so good scheduling is the key to arrive in top form to the FO.

Paco
Mar 8th, 2008, 08:49 PM
But IW gave us one of Lena's all time best wins.

That comeback against Justine from 2-6 2-5 to win 2-6 7-5 7-5 was something special. :drool:

Oh yes it was amazing :drool: :D

miffedmax
Mar 9th, 2008, 04:07 AM
I actually think that for once, Lena has an actual, discernable plan. We may not all like it, or agree that it will give her the best odds of winning, but she has a fan.

Demska
Mar 9th, 2008, 10:15 AM
But IW gave us one of Lena's all time best wins.

That comeback against Justine from 2-6 2-5 to win 2-6 7-5 7-5 was something special. :drool:

But yeah, March through May is the most gruelling period every year, esp. since a big chunk is on clay, so good scheduling is the key to arrive in top form to the FO.
how weird. i watched that match on my pc last night :bolt:

No Name Face
Mar 9th, 2008, 02:17 PM
yup. is it the sisters who never play indian wells cos one of them gave a w/o to another in the final one year. :tape: :rolls:

this is just another reason why not playing indian wells is a dumb idea

stop being such a hater :mad:

lena should have played IW. end.

Demska
Mar 9th, 2008, 02:59 PM
i'm not. just stating a fact. :p

TiK-Tee
Mar 9th, 2008, 04:28 PM
miss Lena .... 2weeks

Viktymise
Mar 9th, 2008, 04:30 PM
Dementieva/Krasnoroutskaya v Venus/Serena Wimbledon 2003 last game.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=38L6BDML

Sorry, its off my digital cam again. :lol:

miffedmax
Mar 9th, 2008, 06:13 PM
Spot on, Max. :yeah:

If Elena like. Ever returns to the top five/gets an olympic gold/wins a slam, namely one of the latter two, would Elena still be one of your life's biggest disappointments? ;)

I guess in a tennis sense .. . :devil: ;)

No Name Face
Mar 10th, 2008, 03:36 AM
i'm not. just stating a fact. :p

shut it. i quite like you but not your WS hatred. please don't make my opinion change. :awww:

anyway, lena/roddick winning dubai is kind of interesting. two "over-the-hill" winners both beating 2 & 3 in the world to win too. maybe lena and andy will win wimbledon this year. even though i don't want andy to win another major title, i'd root for him to win the golden slam if it meant our lena could win just ONE grand slam. ;)

Demska
Mar 10th, 2008, 05:14 PM
i don't hate the WS, only one of them. Venus I don't mind and quite like.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 10th, 2008, 09:46 PM
This would have been Elena's quarter at IW

1-Ivanovic vs. BYE
Olaru vs. Meng
King vs. Kremer
31-Garbin vs. BYE

19-Pennetta vs. BYE
Kanepi vs. Muller
Ani vs. WC-Oudin
13-Schiavone vs. BYE

12-Zvonareva vs. BYE
Pin vs. Rezai
Qualfier vs. Parmentier
22-Krajicek vs. BYE

32-Paszek vs. BYE
Qualifier vs. Qualifier
Pouchtkova vs. Dellacqua
7-Vaidisova (Elena Dementieva) vs. BYE

Demska
Mar 10th, 2008, 10:02 PM
Hmm, average draw. Not bad seeing her highest seed is Ivanovic who is her bitch. Not much else that would have troubled her, maybe Zvonareva or Schiavone but not much else. Anyway, Lena hasn't entered so there is no point dweling on it.

Corswandt
Mar 10th, 2008, 10:40 PM
lena should have played IW. end.

At her age, she can no longer whore every tournament in sight. IW-Miami-Amelia-Charleston in consecutive weeks, possibly going deep in all of them, would have been too taxing. In 2006, Petrova went from a similar schedule to win Berlin, entered RG as one of the two main favourites, and then what happened?

It seems Lena still fancies herself a claycourter, and has built her schedule with preparation for RG as its main goal. First time I've seen any kind of plan behind her scheduling, and it turns out to be a wholly misguided one.

Demska
Mar 10th, 2008, 10:42 PM
comparing lena's physical attributes to petrova :tape:

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 11th, 2008, 12:09 AM
Terrible on clay ---> this applies to basically every player on the WTA Tour apart of Henin. Elena doesn´t lose nothing trying to have a good preparation before RG even if she is "terrible" , the whole WTA Tour is terrible

Although , I don´t see any relation between the green quick stuff and red slow stuff. If she does well at AI and Charleston , that doesn`t mean she will go far at RG . Different surfaces

miffedmax
Mar 11th, 2008, 12:36 AM
Paris is the next Slam. Planning for it makes sense, especially since that's the one she wants most.

It's not like this would be great hardcourt experience for the US Open, what with Paris and Wimby in between.

I think the schedule makes sense, although I think that New York is still her best chance for a major.

Corswandt
Mar 11th, 2008, 12:52 AM
comparing lena's physical attributes to petrova :tape:

That's one reason I didn't mind her not doing IW--she's in enough events leading up to Paris anyway, although I must agree with Ollie, Petrova is and never was anywhere close to Elena in physical fitness.

Remember what happened the last time Lena played many weeks in a row (2007 USO series): played four consecutive weeks, collapsed at the New Haven SF, with visibly not a drop left in the tank, both physically and mentally, then went on to self destruct against Bammer in the 3R of the USO.

Terrible on clay ---> this apllies to basically every player on the WTA Tour apart of Henin. Elena doesn´t lose nothing trying to have a good preparation before RG on even if she is "terrible" , the whole WTA Tour is terrible

Although , I don´t see any relation between the green quick stuff and red slow stuff. If she does well at AI and Charleston , that doesn`t mean she will go far at RG . Different surfaces

I agree with both your points. The only women's match not featuring Henin that I saw last year in which actual claycourt tennis was played was Garbin d. Pennetta in Rome. And green clay is pretty much a hardcourt one can slide on.

Lena's reasoning probably goes along the lines of: Sharapova is shit on clay, it's the sisters' least favourite surface, and of those more at ease in it, Jankovic has been playing zombie tennis since mid '07, Ivanovic is her bitch and Kuznetsova is beatable, which leaves Henin. I just don't think this offsets the fact that Lena's game is unsuited to clay. Being a baseline grinder doesn't necessary translate to claycourt success.

I mean, I think you and I have discussed her on clay in the past, and we both agree she's terrible on it (or so I remember), but if she can fight like she did in Dubai, she can maybe make a final at one of the clay events she's entered, possibly even win it. :shrug: Paris is the slam she wants to win most, I say let her try as hard as she can. Although my question is why you find it so misguiding.

See paragraph above.

miffedmax
Mar 11th, 2008, 02:17 AM
She did win Istanbul on red clay.

Not the biggest tournament, but a title is a title.

Dementinator
Mar 11th, 2008, 10:35 AM
Dont anyone ever compare Petrova to Elena, there is simply no comparison, physically or otherwise between that feeble, dour faced whining coward Petrova and Elena.

Lenas schedule seems ok to me, plenty of areas to pick up points, Lenas main problem has been heat, thats why she threw the towel in at New Haven, not from playing to many matches.

We will simply have to see.

cant be arsed to read all the above posts, both Ludders and Corswandts posts may indeed contain loads of valuable info, well Ludwigs maybes but fuck me they are so boring, cure for insomnia right there.

Miami first, lets see what the big golden one brings there.

Dan23
Mar 11th, 2008, 12:30 PM
Aww, you check up on Lena and her fans? :p

Glad to see everyone's taking the new changes well! I don't really care that a new thread started. We can still talk about the fabulousness that is Elena Dementieva.
Yes I do :p Its too dangerous to post a lot of the time though :lol:

Strange to see Lena out of IW

Dementinator
Mar 11th, 2008, 01:20 PM
Its not dangerous, its just fun!

Its an exciting thread, no brown nosing allowed in here, say what you think..

Dementinator
Mar 11th, 2008, 04:35 PM
:lol:

did I not say what you said made sense, I am jsut feeling bored with it all right now, but it may change once Lena starts playing again.

Corswandt is obviously knowledgeable but hes got this really "superior than thou" attitude and I cant really take to him at all, he seems to think hes the shit and everyone else is an asshole that knows fuck all, its possibly not like that and just the way his posts come across but I aint the only one whos noticed it, but yes Ludders, I know you are in love with him but as for the best poster on this board? Nahh, I think not, Miffed maybes, and despite what you think, I enjoy your own posts when they havent gone all statastic and you arent trying to be Mr loved by all.

I am bored and when I am bored, its dangerous. be warned....

Dementinator
Mar 11th, 2008, 04:53 PM
There are some that are not, I am bloody sure there is, isnt there?

rrfnpump
Mar 11th, 2008, 05:13 PM
Just something random...
I am currently doing a spanish course at the university and today we got an excersise sheet to practice nationality adjectives and there was the question : "¿Quién es Elena Dementieva?". Hehe, nobody knew the answer but me. "Es una tenista rusa". :tape: :p

That said, good luck Lena in Miami!

Dementinator
Mar 11th, 2008, 05:15 PM
well done.

rrfnpump
Mar 11th, 2008, 05:19 PM
well done.

:lol:. That question was just so random and I was :eek: when I saw it. I mean, they could have taken Putin or somebody to practice ruso/-a, but no, they took Lena. The person doing the excersises must be a Lena fan, they are all over the world!

HenryMag.
Mar 11th, 2008, 06:07 PM
what a nice spanish class.

Demska
Mar 11th, 2008, 06:09 PM
i wish my lessons were about elena. especially photography.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 11th, 2008, 06:27 PM
I'm glad in Europe are not teaching that useless good for nothing language called french :D

Demska
Mar 11th, 2008, 06:32 PM
ohh they still are :D

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 11th, 2008, 06:37 PM
People have realized french is useless and want to learn spanish :D

Demska
Mar 11th, 2008, 06:49 PM
Vache :ras:

saint2
Mar 11th, 2008, 07:03 PM
People, especially in Europe should start to learn arabian. Will be useful to future generations...

rrfnpump
Mar 11th, 2008, 07:06 PM
People have realized french is useless and want to learn spanish :D

Sí, sí. :D I always refused to learn french, took Latin instead and now it's rather easy learning all the Roman languages. I like Spanish a lot. I would love to learn Russian as well and some Asian language, too. However, I am glad being able to speak just German, English y un poco de Espanol. :p I am realizing every time I learn another language how difficult and :weirdo: German actually is and understand people having a hard time learning it.

But Felipe... as Lena speaks French you shouldn't be that harsh on the French language. :p


People, especially in Europe should start to learn arabian. Will be useful to future generations...

I don't think so. One should learn Indian or Chinese, that would be useful to future generations.

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Mar 11th, 2008, 07:52 PM
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Don't discuss it any more, not until Mommy Vera gives us the high sign.

Corswandt
Mar 11th, 2008, 10:06 PM
Vache :ras:

http://blogue.canoe-inc.com/mediam/photo_4811_VacheW.jpg

Demska
Mar 11th, 2008, 10:16 PM
Please go to "pics of yourself" thread :D

Corswandt
Mar 11th, 2008, 10:34 PM
Please go to "pics of yourself" thread :D

No, that would have been

http://www.enlighted.com/media/fuzzy/pdcoat/pimp3x600.jpg

I'm all class.

Dementinator
Mar 11th, 2008, 10:54 PM
what the fuck has been going on in here? :lol:

Now we are arguing about Languages.

miffedmax
Mar 11th, 2008, 11:16 PM
No, that would have been

http://www.enlighted.com/media/fuzzy/pdcoat/pimp3x600.jpg

I'm all class.

Wow! Both you and the cap'n love to get dates with girls from Amarillo!

Alenyaa
Mar 12th, 2008, 12:48 AM
Mum???

:p :lol:

No Name Face
Mar 12th, 2008, 02:52 AM
stop stealing my man crushes chris. corswandt and miffed are my intellectual property.

Dementinator
Mar 12th, 2008, 10:16 AM
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!

Demska
Mar 12th, 2008, 11:15 AM
:rolls:

Shoulderpova
Mar 12th, 2008, 11:46 AM
Just something random...
I am currently doing a spanish course at the university and today we got an excersise sheet to practice nationality adjectives and there was the question : "¿Quién es Elena Dementieva?". Hehe, nobody knew the answer but me. "Es una tenista rusa". :tape: :p

That said, good luck Lena in Miami!

:worship::worship::worship::worship:

miffedmax
Mar 12th, 2008, 07:09 PM
Thanks Dennis . . . I think ;)

Anyway, I love the way we are blowing away the other volume 2s around here in a week when our beloved Lena is idle.

Sometimes, we're almost as cool as she is.:lol:

Dementinator
Mar 12th, 2008, 11:41 PM
Bit quiet in here tonight, no Xenophobia, suggested genocide or anything, no ones even bitched about the Vol2 thing or the fact that France continues to exist..

Come on guys, youre slacking..... ooooh almost forgot, got some stats for Ludwig.

In 2000, the color of the roll of asswipe in Lenas hotel was a gentle shade of pink, but in 2001 it was blue. In 2003 (Lenas breakout year) the bum fodder was white but in 2004 it was a dirty grey color.
Now, in 2005, not a great year for Lena, the hotel had in fact totally run out of shitter roll and resorted to kitchen towel instead, but in 2006 and 2007 pink was once again the predominant color..

Hmm I wonder what all this means for Lenas chances in 2008 then eh??

No Name Face
Mar 13th, 2008, 01:26 AM
Thanks Dennis . . . I think ;)

Anyway, I love the way we are blowing away the other volume 2s around here in a week when our beloved Lena is idle.

Sometimes, we're almost as cool as she is.:lol:

Yeah it's a no homo intellectual man crush, don't worry :lol:

Dementinator
Mar 13th, 2008, 09:05 AM
I posted this in Edem, its a small dictionary of British slang terms to help our friends from the Colonies etc understand them..


Knackered = Means Either something is broken (Its Knackered) or Tired ( I'm Knackered) can be replaced with 'fucked'

Bollocks = Slang term for the testicles, used in many ways (its bollocksed) or (you are talking total bollocks) or as a simple expletive ( BOLLOCKS!!)

Wank = Slang term for self gratification of a sexual manner, used as an insult ( You wanker!!) or as an expresion of tiredness ( I'm feeling wanked!)

Bint = Slang term for 'woman' similar to 'broad' or 'wench'

Gurt= Old English country term for 'big' such as (Lena has gurt muscles or Lenas gurt) can be combined with Bint (Lenas a gurt bint)

Bugger = An old Expletive ( BUGGER!!) or what happens if you drop the soap in the prison showers ( he got buggered from behind)

most of these words can also be combined..as in the following..

"I watched a match with Elena and she was buggering about and bolocksed up the set, the gurt bint then managed to win, leaning us all knackered and completed wanked out"

Hope this all helps

Demska
Mar 13th, 2008, 11:01 AM
I know about all of them in England but never heard of Gurt :p

Alenyaa
Mar 13th, 2008, 11:51 AM
Hey guys, did any of you know... Lena AFR? :eek:

Paco
Mar 13th, 2008, 12:11 PM
Hey guys, did any of you know... Lena AFR? :eek:

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
It can't be ;)

miffedmax
Mar 13th, 2008, 12:35 PM
I knew Elena cried out that she hated her serve during the FO F. I didn't know she cried literally in the post-match interview when the journalists were pestering her about her serve. That's rough.

I find out something new every day.

I have to admit that there for a while after that match I was seriously thinking of jumping the SS for the gunboat Myskina. I mean, she was my second favorite and Elena had just humiliated herself.

Then I saw my poor baby girl crying, and I totally melted. Haven't ever wavered since.

Dementinator
Mar 13th, 2008, 01:04 PM
Glad to hear it.....the penalty for jumping the SS is, well, its simple, its death.

miffedmax
Mar 13th, 2008, 04:36 PM
Hey, even Mother Theresa's faith wavered now and then!

But that final, well, it was one of my darker days as a tennis/Lena fan.

Dementinator
Mar 13th, 2008, 05:18 PM
It wasnt a good match thats for sure, but believe it or not, theres been worse FO finals since then, last years was even more one sided, Lena at least made a few close games.

miffedmax
Mar 13th, 2008, 05:55 PM
Plus an eyefull of Lena (let alone an eyefull of Lena AND Nastya) can't be all bad.

HenryMag.
Mar 13th, 2008, 06:39 PM
I have to admit that there for a while after that match I was seriously thinking of jumping the SS for the gunboat Myskina. I mean, she was my second favorite and Elena had just humiliated herself.


Funny....In that match were when I fell in love with Lena.

miffedmax
Mar 13th, 2008, 10:43 PM
I remember my thoughts at the time . . .

"Why do I feel sorry for someone that rich and that beautiful when they're crying over a freakin' tennis match"

transitioned to

"OMG, someone give that poor girl a hug"

to

"Oh, Lena, I'll love you forever!!!"

Alenyaa
Mar 13th, 2008, 11:07 PM
Yeah, that was so sad to see. It always hurts to see someone you care about being sad.
I'm hoping I'll only see happy tears from her in the future :)

Demska
Mar 13th, 2008, 11:10 PM
watching the FO Final, I could never see Elena shout out "I hate my serve" in russian or english. i will check tomorrow

Dementinator
Mar 13th, 2008, 11:15 PM
Well ,she did at least realise one of her big goals by winning her Beloved Moscow title last year.

miffedmax
Mar 14th, 2008, 12:56 PM
Don't. Ever.

Dementinator
Mar 14th, 2008, 02:01 PM
Changing the matches slightly and heading over to "angry" Lena instead, I still remember that 04 YEC where Lena got pissed and tossed her racket to one side, of course being Lena and with Lena being rather a strong girl, it acheived near escape velocity before ending up well into the crowd and almost taking out a poor dude, whereupon he then had to hand it back to a rather sheepish looking Lena, who was then bollocked by the ump and given a racket abuse violation.

Was kinda funny to see, Lena was shocked at where it ended up and I had never seen her lose it like that before, Lenas a gentle thing most of the time, but she can and does lose her temper.

miffedmax
Mar 14th, 2008, 02:46 PM
Which are harder to find--matches where Elena throws her racket, or matches where Myskina doesn't?

ys
Mar 14th, 2008, 03:30 PM
Changing the matches slightly and heading over to "angry" Lena instead, I still remember that 04 YEC where Lena got pissed and tossed her racket to one side, of course being Lena and with Lena being rather a strong girl, it acheived near escape velocity before ending up well into the crowd and almost taking out a poor dude, whereupon he then had to hand it back to a rather sheepish looking Lena, who was then bollocked by the ump and given a racket abuse violation.

Was kinda funny to see, Lena was shocked at where it ended up and I had never seen her lose it like that before, Lenas a gentle thing most of the time, but she can and does lose her temper.

Recently rewathched my old tapes of YEC2000.. She threw her racket there too.

miffedmax
Mar 14th, 2008, 04:00 PM
Both were good years. Like I said, I love it when Lena shows a little piss and vinegar. Sometimes I think she's too sweet for her own good.

Demska
Mar 14th, 2008, 05:41 PM
Lena played the, if i should say, better tennis of the match towards the end of the FO final. it was too late by then.

Demska
Mar 14th, 2008, 05:46 PM
Supposedly it was in the second to last game when she yelled it out. I never watched the match. Would rather not, frankly.

Yup. Lena was down 16 *24 and double faulted on the first point of the game and yelled it out.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 14th, 2008, 10:27 PM
I doubt we will reach 5000 posts this year :( , I hope Elena wins her title number 10 this season :D

miffedmax
Mar 14th, 2008, 11:16 PM
If our beloved wins a major, we will pass 5,000 posts that weekend.

Alenyaa
Mar 15th, 2008, 01:41 AM
9 months to go, which means 270 days, leaves us with about 17 posts a day.
That's very achievable :)

miffedmax
Mar 15th, 2008, 03:18 AM
Yes, but I like my scenario better.

Paco
Mar 15th, 2008, 09:43 AM
5000 is reachable this year without any doubt :)

azmad_88
Mar 15th, 2008, 11:36 AM
lets go for it then

miffedmax
Mar 15th, 2008, 12:36 PM
So anyway, I was over in the nontennis thread in the one about large ta-tas where I was thinking about my old line about I'd rather have the girl with the best legs over the girl with the nicest chest and realized that either way you end up with Lena D. Then I realized it applied to eyes, abs, arms, smile, nose, hair, feet, and just about everything else.

It's too early and I'm bored, so forgive me incoherent :drool: over our beloved.

Rix643
Mar 15th, 2008, 02:20 PM
Still,.........

miffedmax
Mar 15th, 2008, 06:51 PM
Yes, these are two seperate, yet somewhat related facts.

I am a perv.

Elena is off-the-charts beauty-wise.

There you have it.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 15th, 2008, 07:26 PM
I don´t know why english speakers use the word SUCH quite often. I mean , the word could not be there and it would be the same :shrug:

saint2
Mar 16th, 2008, 12:56 PM
Elena is going to play exo in Warsaw...in the middle of the season :help::help: Will she ever make a reasonable decision?

azmad_88
Mar 16th, 2008, 01:06 PM
udachi Lena! whats her calender after miami?

Miami
Charleston
then?

FFS
Mar 16th, 2008, 01:11 PM
Miami
Amelia Island
Charleston
2 weeks off (the exbition in warsaw)
Berlin
Rome
maybe Istanbul
RG

azmad_88
Mar 16th, 2008, 01:32 PM
i think after berlin is a 3 weeks break

so shes playing miami - charleston (1 month in a row)
3 weeks break (exo in warsaw)
Berlin - RG ( 5 weeks in a row )

i think its ok,but i prefer her to sit out Istanbul this year

miffedmax
Mar 16th, 2008, 02:25 PM
I just realized. This Drake guy on the board is going to IW and like. Talking to players and stuff. He's even going to interview a player.

If I can somehow meet up with Elena, I'd want to ask her some questions. I can't think of any off the top of my head, but I could ask questions you guys want answered. Anything you can think of? Serious questions only, please. :ras:

I'll make a thread here or on the official forum the closer it gets to Charleston about any questions you all want asked + my sightings and talks with Elena/other players. Unlike cap'n I can basically see her every day she's here.

This is of course if I don't go into cardiac arrest upon looking at the incredible beauty and power of Elena.

I need to brush up on my Russian, I'll be telling her what to do from the stands if she's losing. :lol: How do you say "Hit more to her backhand!"? :lol:

I'd ask her if she thinks it's fair to hog all the beauty, brains and talent.

Demska
Mar 16th, 2008, 02:38 PM
Lena to play an exho in Warsaw. lineup has Sveta and Lindsay .

FFS
Mar 16th, 2008, 02:40 PM
i think after berlin is a 3 weeks break

so shes playing miami - charleston (1 month in a row)
3 weeks break (exo in warsaw)
Berlin - RG ( 5 weeks in a row )

i think its ok,but i prefer her to sit out Istanbul this year
Not sure she plays Berlin and not Rome.
about Istanbul, usually WTA asks the winner of the previous year to play.
(and don't forget there is a quite interesting extra check from the tournament for players like Elena)

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 16th, 2008, 05:31 PM
That obsession for those fake , joke of tennis matches that Elena has :o

I saw only one real match in a exho , when Petros Sampras won to Frauderer in Malaysia

Paco
Mar 16th, 2008, 07:08 PM
so Lena gonna play in Warszawa. Well I really hope I'll manage to be there :)

Dementinator
Mar 16th, 2008, 07:44 PM
what to ask Elena eh, well, while some of us are whinging AGAIN about Lena deciding to have some fun in Warsaw, I will attempt to answer Mr Ludders question..

Well you could ask her for my pen back but I am sure theres something better to ask her....

Does she still have her little dog Patrick? Does she still collect those crystal thingies and exactly how does she maintain that incredible physique, I have see her doing her stretching and running and even playing with a great gurt fuck off shuttlecock (Ask her what the fuck thats about for me) but shes gotta do more than that to get the frame she has, try asking her for her real height, shes said 183cm I think in an interview somewhere.

Its probably all immaterial as you will simple be awestruck when in her presence and forget everything.

miffedmax
Mar 16th, 2008, 07:53 PM
Chris, man, I'm hurt you didn't like my question.

Seriously, though, I've often thought that if I interviewed Elena, I would ask (as one of my questions) the following:

"Elena, tennis fans know about you and your mother and how important she's been to your career. But it's also been said that successful women often learn how to be successful from their fathers. What traits or characteristics do you think you got from your dad that have contributed to your success?"

miffedmax
Mar 16th, 2008, 07:54 PM
Aside from that fantastic nose, of course.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 16th, 2008, 08:05 PM
what to ask Elena eh, well, while some of us are whinging AGAIN about Lena deciding to have some fun in Warsaw, .

She can get an injury or play tired as hell (this is for sure) in RG or some important tier 1 tournament. On the ATP tour any contender play that ARAG World Team Championship nonsense before RG

2 exhos per year is too much , it doesn´t help to her ranking - game and can suffer a serious injury for a pair of thousand of dollars

Dementinator
Mar 16th, 2008, 08:12 PM
moan bitch gripe complain

even whinging the word "such" turns up a lot in the English language, this from someone who speaks a language where 23,000 words a minute in speech is common.

hehehehe :lol:

FFS
Mar 16th, 2008, 08:15 PM
She can get an injury or play tired as hell (this is for sure) in RG or some important tier 1 tournament.
In your opinion, which is the difference between to play an exho and practice ?
Usually in practice a woman player plays with a man. So an injury can happen playing a practice match or an exho, in Elena's case injury was because of an idiot of trainer not because exho.

In my opinion an exho, close to the place she plays the tournament is a good thing to practice, having fun and put in a pocket a fat check

miffedmax
Mar 16th, 2008, 08:16 PM
You'll represent!

Dementinator
Mar 16th, 2008, 08:19 PM
I saw Lena a lot in the grounds at Eastbourne, she doesnt hide all to herself, she was trying to drag the south stand along when I caught sight of her and her mom.

Demska, why have you got Linda from "Dr Becker" in your avatar, or should I say Shawnee Smith, you been watching Saw 1 2 or 3 have you?

Nowt wrong with playing an Exhib, no pressure, some fun, plus lots of Lena pix.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 16th, 2008, 08:23 PM
In your opinion, which is the difference between to play an exho and practice ?


Lena serves very well in practices , Lena in exhos serves at her usual level. Huge difference

Nah, but seriously , even Sampras has lost 6-0 in practices against some mug player. Practices are 10 times less serious than an exho , and exhos are 10 times less serious than a real match

FFS
Mar 16th, 2008, 08:37 PM
I probably will be awestruck when I see her. I'm just wondering where I'll find her. On a practice court, maybe? Walking around? I'm so shy. :lol: Too bad the European team can't be here, I'm sure I'll be the only Dementard there.
what's the European Team?

I think practice court is the best option

saint2
Mar 16th, 2008, 09:05 PM
what to ask Elena eh, well, while some of us are whinging AGAIN about Lena deciding to have some fun in Warsaw

She has a right to "have fun in Warsaw" and I, as a fan, have a right to comment that idea. Simple deal.

Pilongo
Mar 16th, 2008, 09:08 PM
Life is soo boring without our dear Lena . Luckily I have lots of fun reading your stuff here guys, hehe ;)
I just can't wait for her to be on the court again. It's amazing the feeling:
"Oh she's playing today" - and that means a good day, or a thrilling day at worst, but it's very addictive!
Lord I became a Lenaddict, just as everyone here. It's all your fault!! :devil:
But thank you :worship:
Lena will AFR in Miami, Warsaw and everywhere!!

Dementinator
Mar 16th, 2008, 09:25 PM
I have one of those flags, Lenas signed it... :hearts:

miffedmax
Mar 16th, 2008, 09:31 PM
You know, if you go to the official site there's that "be a correspondent" link. I've never actually clicked it because I'm never near any of Lena's tournaments--so far--but maybe you could check it out.

FFS
Mar 16th, 2008, 09:34 PM
There's a team in Europe consisting of about four or five people who follow Elena around when she plays an event and support her. They usually carry a flag and some signs and cheer her on.

I'll be doing the same thing basically (minus the signs and flag) in Charleston.
I see. Thanks
Lucky (and rich) European team :D

good luck in Charleston ! :D

Dementinator
Mar 16th, 2008, 10:23 PM
I'd click that link Max but the official site hasn't worked for me in several days. Dunno what's up.

And thanks FFS. :)

It is what we technical folk commonly refer to as fucked.

miffedmax
Mar 16th, 2008, 11:22 PM
Yeah, I just tried it and it's not working for me.

Hopefully it will be back up soon.

Dementinator
Mar 16th, 2008, 11:30 PM
Well theres your answer, Miffed has tried it and now its broke, for some reason the Miffedster and the Official site simply do not get along, should he even get as far as typing 'www.dem....' into his browser, then the servers have a panic attack and go tits up for the next 3 weeks.

Stick to the ladies of the night in Lubbock Max, they dont break so easily, shit, thats another of my secrets out, goddamn it!

miffedmax
Mar 17th, 2008, 01:17 AM
Happiness is Lubbock in your rearview mirror.

No Name Face
Mar 17th, 2008, 02:37 AM
if lena picks up a title in amelia or charleston (hoping for charleston), it'll already be one of her best seasons title wise.

she's obviously playing to do well in roland garros. i hope she doesn't get tired though...clay can be very arduous.

miffedmax
Mar 17th, 2008, 07:37 AM
I actually expect her to drop out of one of those pre-Paris tournaments if she wins a title. That thigh is always a possible excuse, or the shoulder . . .

Dementinator
Mar 17th, 2008, 09:09 AM
I wouldnt call it obsessive, when I finally saw the Golden One live I prattled on and on about it endlessly and bored everyone here to death I reckon.

Its a big moment getting to see her and boy oh boy she doesnt dissapoint in the flesh either, however gorgeous and impressive you think she is in pix, shes even more so for real, utterly beautiful and very sweet.

She does take her practice very seriously however so pick your moment to speak to her carefully, shes more than happy to sign stuff but also likes her time as well.

I STILL remember the look on her face when she saw the pic I gave her to sign hehehehehehehe.

miffedmax
Mar 17th, 2008, 02:48 PM
None of us are obsessed. We are showing that we have good taste and a sense of perspective when we incessantly post about the supremely adorable Lena D.

No Name Face
Mar 18th, 2008, 12:43 AM
Loves LenaD.

I hope she wins Charleston, Berlin, and RG.


:cool:

cypher_88
Mar 18th, 2008, 12:46 AM
it feels so refreshing to come here and actually see people having sense of humour :hearts:. keep going Lena :kiss:

miffedmax
Mar 18th, 2008, 01:42 AM
I think it's "None of us is obsessed." None is singular. Sorry Max. I hope you all see why I want to be an English teacher. :p

Dammit. I only write for a living and shit. I should do grammar gooder than that.

Alenyaa
Mar 18th, 2008, 01:56 AM
You're the goodest at grammar, Max

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 18th, 2008, 07:50 AM
The day when Elena defeated the (Evil) Ego King

Really funny to read some comments about Federer having troubles with Elena's return during the match :lol:

Since post number 7 to 40 ---> http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=7622

azmad_88
Mar 18th, 2008, 08:47 AM
i miss Lena

HenryMag.
Mar 18th, 2008, 10:24 AM
The day when Elena defeated the (Evil) Ego King

Really funny to read some comments about Federer having troubles with Elena's return during the match :lol:

Since post number 7 to 40 ---> http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=7622

Lena has one of the best returns in the world, so even Federer has troubles...especially when he's not 100% focus in the match.

miffedmax
Mar 18th, 2008, 01:03 PM
Lena is a goddess. Federer, for all his abilties, is a mortal.

It really is that simple.

Viktymise
Mar 18th, 2008, 01:25 PM
The tour is extremely boring without Lena. :(

miffedmax
Mar 18th, 2008, 03:39 PM
A clash between my fav, and my favorite-in-waiting could be almost unwatchable if they're both off.

I actually like Lena's chances against Chaky, though.

HenryMag.
Mar 18th, 2008, 10:42 PM
I would love to see Lena vs Chaky again, but not on 4th round...Maybe QF or better...

They're my 2 favourite players on Tour and I think Lena would be favourite to that match because of her great form this year.

fredlander
Mar 19th, 2008, 12:30 AM
Loves LenaD.

I hope she wins Charleston, Berlin, and RG.


:cool:Lets not get greedy, Denny boy. BTW, are you still in college or have you joined us in the real(work) world? :lol:

Viktymise
Mar 19th, 2008, 11:24 AM
Lena will relish playing Chaky again for Moscow 06. REVENGE!

Demska
Mar 19th, 2008, 12:46 PM
Lena vs Chakky

Hmmm...when anna if off, she is :help:

miffedmax
Mar 19th, 2008, 02:03 PM
Hey Cap'n!!

Is it still HOT CROSS BUN time there in England?

Saw 'em at my local bakery this a.m. for the first time. England's greatest contribution to civilization.

saint2
Mar 19th, 2008, 02:34 PM
Lena will relish playing Chaky again for Moscow 06. REVENGE!

Im waiting for a rematch, and cant wait...If they'll meet in next 3 weeks, my bet is: Elena 76 62 at best, or 57 62 75 at worst...

Dementinator
Mar 19th, 2008, 04:55 PM
Hey Cap'n!!

Is it still HOT CROSS BUN time there in England?

Saw 'em at my local bakery this a.m. for the first time. England's greatest contribution to civilization.

Oh yes, there plenty of the things around, can get em all year round now as well as easter time.

Lena much greater player than Anna C, end of.

miffedmax
Mar 19th, 2008, 07:07 PM
Year round HCBs? The Church of England allows such a thing?

Demska
Mar 19th, 2008, 07:10 PM
Yes, you can get everything all year round in England. Except the sunshine.

Demska
Mar 19th, 2008, 10:27 PM
I got bored. :p It is not permenent though . :p

Yah thanks. You should watch the Dance video though :drool:

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 19th, 2008, 10:54 PM
So Ollie , What does Demska mean exactly ?

I guess Dem is for Dementieva but ska :confused:

Demska
Mar 19th, 2008, 10:56 PM
Well, Dem was Dementieva like you said, I think ska came from myskina somewhere. :p

fredlander
Mar 20th, 2008, 12:58 AM
BTW, Myskina doesn't look like that avatar anymore, if you know what I mean. :baby:

Demska
Mar 20th, 2008, 11:46 AM
BTW, Myskina doesn't look like that avatar anymore, if you know what I mean. :baby:

:baby: :baby: :baby:

I can only imagine what Nastya will be like in labour. :tape:

miffedmax
Mar 20th, 2008, 12:14 PM
Your right... I used to think the dad ducking out was kind of low, but maybe he was just thinking the same thing.

itzhak
Mar 20th, 2008, 01:24 PM
great interview in french with some interesting quotes: http://www.grandchelem.net/mon_weblog/2008/03/elena-dementiev.html

and here is the translation of ROCKETMAN84 from the forum of the official site:


The latest contributor to our big study entitled 'Female Tennis', Elena Dementieva has also had to confront the criticisms put forward by Wilander's survey. This is the moment for the biggest Francophile of all the Russians on the circuit to pay tribute to the complete tennis of Justine Henin and Amelie Mauresmo, well the Amelie Mauresmo of 2006. Equally this interview offers an interesting insight on the small problem of weight among the women of the WTA: for the girls, when one is stressed out, one eats sugar! And what is wrong with that?

Female tennis, is it as spectacular as the male version?

It's a difficult question. First of all because i am a woman and i like being one of them so i'm always going to take the side of the women! There are some very beautiful matches between the men and some which are very spectacular amongst the women. But i think that there is more dramatic tension in women's matches. Nobody can predict who is going to win and you never know the exact moment when the match will change. As a result, i think that the spectators appreciate that more in the women's matches. When you have a favourite on the men's circuit, they will win 99 percent of the time, that is not the case on the women's circuit.

You speak of dramatic tension, but since the defeat of Hingis by Graf in Paris, there no longer seems to me to be a marked difference in the attitude of the girls on court. Are the girls too timid?

I don't agree with you. We have so many different personalities on the circuit, a variety of styles. Sharapova is always very focused and very aggressive on the court or there is Serena Williams who is very difficult to play against because she has such a big aura around her when she is on court. Ok it's true that there are no bad girls like you can have bad guys, but do we really have a need for this?

Last year Mats Wilander heavily criticised female tennis whilst saying that this brand of tennis was too rigidly uniform, with girls camped on the baseline and that girls don't have a plan B when plan A doesn't work. What do you think of this?

I think that in reality for most of the time there isn't a plan B for the girls. They like playing their own way. If a player is aggressive, she's going to adopt an aggressive game until the end of the match. And besides i don't think this is completely illogical, you play your game. Everyone has their own style of play and it's true that often there is a lack of variation. But it's very nice to see someone like Justine Henin or Amelie Mauresmo who have a lot of strokes in their racquet, who are able to vary their game all the time and who can make the difference with a single stroke.

But for example, Maria Sharapova won the Australian Open whilst charging to the net (really? ). Is this the future of women's tennis?

Without a doubt. It is what one has to do. It is necessary to shorten the rally, it is so much harder to finish the points at the back of the court. If you want to play against top ten girls, you don't have a choice, it is necessary to charge the net, it is necessary to do different things, to create your game. In addition this allows you to conserve energy for upcoming matches. If you win the match in question of course. (Laughs).

So why aren't there more volleyers?

Because the girls are very afraid of the passing shot. When you go to the net and your opponent passes you, it's horrible (laughs). You have constructed the point, you have taken the risk and you find yourself at net without touching the ball. One is afraid to go there. On the male circuit, they don't have this fear there. Even if they lose the point, they keep trying and trying until they are satisfied with the results. Us, we try to stay on the baseline, it is more comfortable. And then i have the impression that as the girls play deeper, they pass better.

What do you think of the fact that Lindsay Davenport was able to stop playing, have a baby and return to win 2 tournaments on the circuit?

That is really unbelievable. I don't know why she did that, but it is necessary to recognise the enormity of this. It almost doesn't surprise me that she was able to make her comeback and play at a very good level. It is a force of nature!

What do you want to say? That it is a unique player or that female tennis.....(she cuts in)

has a mediocre level? (laughs). But it is a very good question! It is a very special player, very strong. Given that her groundstrokes are very heavy, she didn't need to change much in her game. She can win a point in 2, 3 strokes. Thus i don't think that she has required that last level.

What do you think of the retirement of Kim Clijsters and the announcement from Nicole Vaidisova who has explained that her plan is to play only until the age of 25 because tennis is not her entire life?

I don't like this way of thinking because you can never know what you will be able to do in the future. You can hurt yourself or others and it is very difficult to see what change in plans the planets have in store for you(?? ). For Kim, i know that she was tired of playing because she was chained to a lot of competitons. And her way of playing was very physical, she said to herself "no that is enough, my body can no longer follow (this schedule)". I think that she would have been able to play longer but it is her choice.

Can you give me an example of a particularly spectacular match in 2007 or 2008?

The Final of the Masters between Sharapova and Henin. I think that was the best match of the year.

Do you think that there is a weight problem among the players?

I think that the players have a very particular relationship with stress and they have a tendency to manage this with sugary things. But it is also because of this that i like tennis, it is less important if you are delicate or sturdy, small or big you have the chance to win.

Now that the stadiums are full, and that television regularly features women's matches, why aren't the women paid more than the men?

We say that at this level of prize money we are already well advanced, to the point where henceforth it is equal. It remains the case that the men play longer and that in the end prize money is perhaps more a question of quantity than of quality....

itzhak
Mar 20th, 2008, 01:50 PM
another news: The official site will change his design in the next days or weeks. this is probably how it will be in the front page (still not official):

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/4439/cfd4451f2d5esy6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

miffedmax
Mar 20th, 2008, 02:33 PM
Well, I'm glad to hear Elena enjoys being a woman.

I think she makes some good points, although I enjoy mens and women's tennis equally.

Dementinator
Mar 20th, 2008, 06:51 PM
Is quite Simple, Mens Tennis Sux , Womens doesnt..

I Find men to be hideous stupid things mostly (Inc me :lol: ) so would rather see the girls, unless of course its Kuznetsova or Schiavone playing, then you may as well be watching ugly hairy assed tennis.

Yes indeed, a good read from Lena.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 20th, 2008, 07:22 PM
Wow , surprised in what Nicole Vaidisova said (if she really said that)

Dementinator
Mar 20th, 2008, 07:30 PM
Why do some harp on about this "weight" problem in the Womens game? Theres like 2 girls I think of who have a weight problem, Bartoli and Kuznetsova, they are both carrying more than they need ,but they are hardly both bloaters and its hardly an epidemic, for the best part, most of the girls today are very good atletes and in excelent shape, they are taller and stronger than they used to be and older players like McEnroe wouldnt be anywhere near as physically strong s the likes of our Dear Lena, Serena, Venus etc, even in his prime he looked less athletic.

Sure theres some hefty girls, but not all the guys are honed athletes either, every sport has a few who re not exactly in great shape, but it doesnt always stop them doing well and I fail to see this army of wobbling, hugely obese female players than the male reporters keep going on about.

Its the age old problem of mens egos, they cant stand the fact that some females are better than them, and it bothers them terribly.

saint2
Mar 20th, 2008, 07:32 PM
Its the age old problem of mens egos, they cant stand the fact that some females are better than them, and it bothers them terribly.

Actually they arent. Can You imagine a match between top20 male and top20 female player? I cant.

Dementinator
Mar 20th, 2008, 07:44 PM
I wasnt simply talking about tennis Mr Arsehole, I was saying a lot of Men have problems with women who are good or better then them at some things, sounds to me like you are one of them too.

saint2
Mar 20th, 2008, 07:49 PM
I wasnt simply talking about tennis Mr Arsehole, I was saying a lot of Men have problems with women who are good or better then them at some things, sounds to me like you are one of them too.

Well, personaly I dont have a problems with women being "better than me"
at some things, cos (except typically femine things) they arent. Women needs to stay femine, not compete with men.

Dementinator
Mar 20th, 2008, 07:55 PM
And you need to stay as far away from women as possible you Male Chauvinistic prick.

saint2
Mar 20th, 2008, 08:02 PM
And you need to stay as far away from women as possible you Male Chauvinistic prick.

Well, I never had problems with women and they never had problems with me.Wich with mine charisma and intelect is not a problem :lol:

No offence, but You sound like a feminist to me. Feminists in Poland have their own party. When Im looking at those women (?), and listen to bulshit they are saying I always wonder: do they even shave their legs? :tape::tape:

Dementinator
Mar 20th, 2008, 08:07 PM
I wouldnt say I am a Feminist, but I am from the late part of the 20th Century and have no problem with strong women and dont think they should all just stand there looking pretty and letting men tell them what to do.

Guess thats what comes from being raised by a strong woman.

You have as much charisma as a blocked toilet by the way, at least thats how your posts come across, thats when you arent complaining.

Try joining the 21st Century one day, its not all that good but it does have its moments.

saint2
Mar 20th, 2008, 08:10 PM
I wouldnt say I am a Feminist, but I am from the late part of the 20th Century and have no problem with strong women and dont think they should all just stand there looking pretty and letting men tell them what to do.

Strong Women? Mean who? Elena Dementieva? And who else?

21 century? Is women who are not shaving their legs a part of 21 century?

And or my charisma: well, there are girls who have diffrent opinion than You...

Dementinator
Mar 20th, 2008, 08:13 PM
Honestly you really cant be this stupid surely? You have to be playing around, no one is that much of an idiot, they cant be.

Anyhow, keep your opinions, they are yours, I wish to longer have anything to do with your posts, always thought you were a pain in the ass and seems I am right.

Just so we dont forget Lena AFR

Paco
Mar 20th, 2008, 09:40 PM
Oh my dear, Do you really don't have topics to talk about in here? :p :lol:

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 20th, 2008, 11:16 PM
another news: The official site will change his design in the next days or weeks. this is probably how it will be in the front page (still not official):

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/4439/cfd4451f2d5esy6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

It looks fresher than the simple previous design .

I like it :yeah:

Dementinator
Mar 20th, 2008, 11:19 PM
It does look more professional thats for sure, a good improvement.

Demska
Mar 21st, 2008, 12:14 AM
Italian ? :rolleyes:

the cat
Mar 21st, 2008, 01:32 AM
great interview in french with some interesting quotes: http://www.grandchelem.net/mon_weblog/2008/03/elena-dementiev.html

and here is the translation of ROCKETMAN84 from the forum of the official site:


The latest contributor to our big study entitled 'Female Tennis', Elena Dementieva has also had to confront the criticisms put forward by Wilander's survey. This is the moment for the biggest Francophile of all the Russians on the circuit to pay tribute to the complete tennis of Justine Henin and Amelie Mauresmo, well the Amelie Mauresmo of 2006. Equally this interview offers an interesting insight on the small problem of weight among the women of the WTA: for the girls, when one is stressed out, one eats sugar! And what is wrong with that?

Female tennis, is it as spectacular as the male version?

It's a difficult question. First of all because i am a woman and i like being one of them so i'm always going to take the side of the women! There are some very beautiful matches between the men and some which are very spectacular amongst the women. But i think that there is more dramatic tension in women's matches. Nobody can predict who is going to win and you never know the exact moment when the match will change. As a result, i think that the spectators appreciate that more in the women's matches. When you have a favourite on the men's circuit, they will win 99 percent of the time, that is not the case on the women's circuit.

You speak of dramatic tension, but since the defeat of Hingis by Graf in Paris, there no longer seems to me to be a marked difference in the attitude of the girls on court. Are the girls too timid?

I don't agree with you. We have so many different personalities on the circuit, a variety of styles. Sharapova is always very focused and very aggressive on the court or there is Serena Williams who is very difficult to play against because she has such a big aura around her when she is on court. Ok it's true that there are no bad girls like you can have bad guys, but do we really have a need for this?

Last year Mats Wilander heavily criticised female tennis whilst saying that this brand of tennis was too rigidly uniform, with girls camped on the baseline and that girls don't have a plan B when plan A doesn't work. What do you think of this?

I think that in reality for most of the time there isn't a plan B for the girls. They like playing their own way. If a player is aggressive, she's going to adopt an aggressive game until the end of the match. And besides i don't think this is completely illogical, you play your game. Everyone has their own style of play and it's true that often there is a lack of variation. But it's very nice to see someone like Justine Henin or Amelie Mauresmo who have a lot of strokes in their racquet, who are able to vary their game all the time and who can make the difference with a single stroke.

But for example, Maria Sharapova won the Australian Open whilst charging to the net (really? ). Is this the future of women's tennis?

Without a doubt. It is what one has to do. It is necessary to shorten the rally, it is so much harder to finish the points at the back of the court. If you want to play against top ten girls, you don't have a choice, it is necessary to charge the net, it is necessary to do different things, to create your game. In addition this allows you to conserve energy for upcoming matches. If you win the match in question of course. (Laughs).

So why aren't there more volleyers?

Because the girls are very afraid of the passing shot. When you go to the net and your opponent passes you, it's horrible (laughs). You have constructed the point, you have taken the risk and you find yourself at net without touching the ball. One is afraid to go there. On the male circuit, they don't have this fear there. Even if they lose the point, they keep trying and trying until they are satisfied with the results. Us, we try to stay on the baseline, it is more comfortable. And then i have the impression that as the girls play deeper, they pass better.

What do you think of the fact that Lindsay Davenport was able to stop playing, have a baby and return to win 2 tournaments on the circuit?

That is really unbelievable. I don't know why she did that, but it is necessary to recognise the enormity of this. It almost doesn't surprise me that she was able to make her comeback and play at a very good level. It is a force of nature!

What do you want to say? That it is a unique player or that female tennis.....(she cuts in)

has a mediocre level? (laughs). But it is a very good question! It is a very special player, very strong. Given that her groundstrokes are very heavy, she didn't need to change much in her game. She can win a point in 2, 3 strokes. Thus i don't think that she has required that last level.

What do you think of the retirement of Kim Clijsters and the announcement from Nicole Vaidisova who has explained that her plan is to play only until the age of 25 because tennis is not her entire life?

I don't like this way of thinking because you can never know what you will be able to do in the future. You can hurt yourself or others and it is very difficult to see what change in plans the planets have in store for you(?? ). For Kim, i know that she was tired of playing because she was chained to a lot of competitons. And her way of playing was very physical, she said to herself "no that is enough, my body can no longer follow (this schedule)". I think that she would have been able to play longer but it is her choice.

Can you give me an example of a particularly spectacular match in 2007 or 2008?

The Final of the Masters between Sharapova and Henin. I think that was the best match of the year.

Do you think that there is a weight problem among the players?

I think that the players have a very particular relationship with stress and they have a tendency to manage this with sugary things. But it is also because of this that i like tennis, it is less important if you are delicate or sturdy, small or big you have the chance to win.

Now that the stadiums are full, and that television regularly features women's matches, why aren't the women paid more than the men?

We say that at this level of prize money we are already well advanced, to the point where henceforth it is equal. It remains the case that the men play longer and that in the end prize money is perhaps more a question of quantity than of quality....
I enjoyed the interview. Thanks itzhak. Elena is so thoughtful.

miffedmax
Mar 21st, 2008, 04:46 AM
I like the new look. It's very Lenaesque. It captures that classic, contradictory I'm an uber-jockette girly girl that is such a huge part of her charm.

Viktymise
Mar 21st, 2008, 10:38 AM
If anyone wants any pic of Lena made into an Avatar or a Banner just send it to me and I'll do it for you if you like. ;)

miffedmax
Mar 21st, 2008, 01:25 PM
If anyone wants any pic of Lena made into an Avatar or a Banner just send it to me and I'll do it for you if you like. ;)

I shall scour the old files for a nice pic of Lena's you-know-whats and take you up on this generous offer.

miffedmax
Mar 22nd, 2008, 06:51 PM
What? Has it really been so long since somebody posted?

In case you haven't noticed, EVD AFRs 24/7, which is why we should post about her AFRness 24/7.

Viktymise
Mar 22nd, 2008, 06:54 PM
Lena is gonna devastate the Miami draw!

Viktymise
Mar 22nd, 2008, 07:00 PM
LOL, Max is leading the Cap'n in number of posts for the new cheering thread. :armed:

Demska
Mar 22nd, 2008, 10:03 PM
Hot banner lenavee.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 22nd, 2008, 11:42 PM
Mardy Fish is my hero


I can't wait for Miami's draw .

Demska
Mar 22nd, 2008, 11:43 PM
I knew you would bring that up.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 23rd, 2008, 01:46 AM
With a little bit of luck , Elena can be the new number 8 after Miami

Although I expect this after Charleston or Amelia

Alenyaa
Mar 23rd, 2008, 02:23 AM
Only monday?
What are we supposed to do in the meantime??? Talk about what a fabulous creature she is? Oh wait, we already do that...

slk45
Mar 23rd, 2008, 05:19 AM
Happy Easter (Western calendar) to Lena and her fans! :)

slk45
Mar 23rd, 2008, 05:40 AM
"vol. 2" is lame.
Well then, how about "2nd Edition"?

Demska
Mar 23rd, 2008, 02:39 PM
love it, they moved Anastasia's forum to the "Retired Players Forums"

Pfft.

saint2
Mar 23rd, 2008, 03:06 PM
love it, they moved Anastasia's forum to the "Retired Players Forums"

Pfft.

Nah, its still in RR

Demska
Mar 23rd, 2008, 03:38 PM
Oh yay, my rant made them move it back.

DEETHELICK
Mar 23rd, 2008, 04:38 PM
While waiting for the Miami draw, just to look back on previous success, one thing that stuck out for me in Elena's performance at Dubai was her calmness in the final set and trusting her serve. 6-2 final set is nice and convincing. However I read on tennisreporters that Elena has a shoulder injury (I am optimistic that this was just a reason to not play IW and that she is resting her shoulder and tweaking her serve motion to gain even better efficiency.

Secondly, Elena played very good aggressive tennis in that final. The FH is starting to pack some oopmh and against Sveta that isnt easy.

Elena seems to be maturing and seasoning well as a tennis player. She is slowly but surely achieving her goals. Gold medal seems to be her key prize. Although looking at her clay schedule, anyone else see that RG also seems to be a target?

Good luck to her this year! :)

No Name Face
Mar 24th, 2008, 03:38 AM
man i hope she draws chakvetadze....

Demska
Mar 24th, 2008, 11:39 AM
You don't want Sexytadze to win? :eek:

:speakles: :hearts:

Sveta kills me so much. When she asked who the best dancer was, she wanted to say herself :rolls:

miffedmax
Mar 24th, 2008, 01:52 PM
I don't think the draw matters. Either Lena will be on, or she won't.

saint2
Mar 24th, 2008, 01:54 PM
Anyone knows when Draws come out? No Sharapova, so Elena is capable to win with anyone in this draw. IW was quite boring this year, so I hope Miami will be beter...

Demska
Mar 24th, 2008, 02:05 PM
2pm Miami time.

Dementinator
Mar 24th, 2008, 06:37 PM
Right lets see, several things, In that video thing Ludders posted, Lena is simply utterly devine, Demska or "triple periods" or whatever has probably THE ugliest sig pic I have ever seen, Will be interesting to see the Miami Draw and now Screamupova is out, its not impossible that Lena could do rather well, or of course she could suck big time, either way, she AFR as much as ever if not more.

Demska
Mar 24th, 2008, 06:42 PM
:haha:

glad you like it

Miami draw should be out very soon, Justine and Serena are in the same QF.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 24th, 2008, 06:46 PM
I want the weakest link in the top 10 (apart of Bartoli) : Hantuchova . Nothing else

Lena winning that match would be top 8 for sure

Dementinator
Mar 24th, 2008, 06:49 PM
:haha:

glad you like it

Miami draw should be out very soon, Justine and Serena are in the same QF.

thats good, the two players I most wanted to NOT be in Lenas quarter.

Demska
Mar 24th, 2008, 07:01 PM
Why not Bartoli ?

On a hardcourt and Bartoli's form lena would take her to the bakery

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 24th, 2008, 07:13 PM
Bartoli is 9th seeded . Elena has to play vs 5-8 in R16

No Name Face
Mar 24th, 2008, 07:57 PM
You don't want Sexytadze to win? :eek:

not against lena :angel:

saint2
Mar 24th, 2008, 09:04 PM
Anyone else waiting for Main Draw? :lol::lol:

Demska
Mar 24th, 2008, 09:09 PM
yeah, mens draw was out hours ago :help:

Demska
Mar 24th, 2008, 09:15 PM
Lena is in the 3rd quarter

Anna Chakvetadze (RUS) [5]
vs.
Anna Chakvetadze
Bye

Alize Cornet (FRA)
vs.

Tamira Paszek (AUT)




Coco Vandeweghe (USA) WC
vs.

Sabine Lisicki (GER) WC

Bye
vs.
Sania Mirza
Sania Mirza (IND) [29]




Francesca Schiavone (ITA) [20]
vs.
Francesca Schiavone
Bye

Zi Yan (CHN)
vs.

Dominika Cibulkova (SVK)




Kateryna Bondarenko (UKR)
vs.

Pauline Parmentier (FRA)

Bye
vs.
Elena Dementieva
Elena Dementieva (RUS) [10]




Nadia Petrova (RUS) [14]
vs.
Nadia Petrova
Bye

Jie Zheng (CHN)
vs.

Qualifier Q




Shuai Peng (CHN)
vs.

Eleni Daniilidou (GRE)

Bye
vs.
Amelie Mauresmo
Amelie Mauresmo (FRA) [24]




Karin Knapp (ITA) [31]
vs.
Karin Knapp
Bye

Lucie Safarova (CZE)
vs.

Sorana Cirstea (ROU) WC




Sofia Arvidsson (SWE)
vs.

Qualifier Q

Bye
vs.
Jelena Jankovic (SRB) [4]

Demska
Mar 24th, 2008, 09:17 PM
2R: Parmentier/K. Bondarenko
3R: Petrova :unsure:
4R: Chakvetadze :devil: :armed:
QF: Jankovic
SF: Ivanovic
F: Henin

HenryMag.
Mar 24th, 2008, 09:20 PM
it's 2nd round vs Bondarenko
3rd: Schiavone
4th: Chaky
QF: Jankovic
...

tough draw.

saint2
Mar 24th, 2008, 09:21 PM
Cakewalk draw I see...Winning against Bondarenko is her DUTY. Petrova wont survive till 3rd round, even if, then Elena will easily beat her. Then maybe we'll finally see rematch for Moscow'06..

Demska
Mar 24th, 2008, 09:23 PM
Yah, tough draw. 1st should't be a problem (:p) but Schiavone has always given Lena problems.

goldenlox
Mar 24th, 2008, 09:26 PM
There's no easy section. The other quarters have players like Serena and Venus.
This quarter has the weakest high seed, but Fran is a tough early round opponent

saint2
Mar 24th, 2008, 09:28 PM
Schiavone instead of Petrova...That may complicate few thins, but I think Fran already passed her limit of luck against Elena...Maybe it would be easier if Yan or Dominika would be able to take FS out...

Demska
Mar 24th, 2008, 09:31 PM
Can I have you credits Ludwig :p :angel:

Demska
Mar 24th, 2008, 09:37 PM
Thank you :)

I don't think Lindsay is too much of a threat. If she plays against Ana, her movement is too poor to trouble her. We should see how the first few rounds go before we start thinking about the 4r +

miffedmax
Mar 24th, 2008, 09:43 PM
JJ is one of the few who scares me. But we'll see.

saint2
Mar 24th, 2008, 09:51 PM
JJ is one of the few who scares me. But we'll see.

Its still long way till JJ...First Bondarenko/Parmentier.

miffedmax
Mar 24th, 2008, 09:52 PM
http://www.thetennischannel.com/sys_media/flash/vt_5%20questions.html In case you didn't see it on her official forum, some Q&A when she was at Dubai. She looked so cool, calm, and collected. And her answers were so good. :hearts:

I just melt for this girl.

Ah, she's so shy and cute. I couldn't understand what she can't leave home without.

But she (or even Masha the Lesser) can cook borsht for me anytime :lol: (in my dreams!!).

Demska
Mar 24th, 2008, 09:53 PM
I'm prettu sure she said Cell Phone :lol:

TheBoiledEgg
Mar 24th, 2008, 09:56 PM
lets go Lena ;) time to get off to a winning start in Miami and take it from there
let the players worry about Lena, not Lena worrying about them ;)

Viktymise
Mar 24th, 2008, 09:58 PM
Promising draw, and its not a piss easy one either.

I predict a SF against Vaidisova.

Venus/Serena/Justine all top, and they were the one's I was worried about for Lena.

No Name Face
Mar 24th, 2008, 10:20 PM
Granted, this is the best she's gonna get. No Sharapova, no WS, no Henin. Scared about Jankovic, but I don't see how Lena (in Dubai form) could lose to her. Schiavone :scared: