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DefyingGravity
Mar 5th, 2008, 11:14 PM
I just wanted to see everyone's thoughts on the younger American women.

Obviously, there's been Ashley Harkleroad and Vania King, two of the more noted young American players (Ashley's break out year was 2003 and Vania's was 2006).

There's been Coco Vandeweghe, Madison Brengle, Melanie Oudin, Gail Brodsky, Asia Muhammad, Julie Ditty, Jamea Jackson, Shennay Perry, Mashona Washington (though I think I'm pushing it with her), and Angela Haynes (who I am watching the replay of her 2005 Wimbledon match with "Fat" Serena). I just want to see what the buzz is on these players and the other Americans who I've never seen play!

Karolina_Sprem
Mar 5th, 2008, 11:30 PM
I have to admit that I was expecting so much more from Vania King. She had VERY bad last year and nothing better so far in 2008.
She is still young, hope she can show her talent!!!

Good luck Vania

NyCPsU
Mar 5th, 2008, 11:36 PM
you realize that julie ditty and mashona washington are old, right?

jackson and perry have both had top100 breakthroughs but are going through injuries.

coco, asia, madison, and melanie oudin are the 4 true youngsters i would say to watch out for. none have really played a whole lot on the pro circuit yet but when they do they have had decent results.

madison will be playing more full time now so hopefully she can break into the top200 soon.

a few months ago i would have mentioned lauren albanese as well. saw her 1r match at the us open in 2006 when she took out savchuk. she showed lots of potential. however she seems to have hit a wall and is lacking confidence, so hopefully she can get back on track soon.

Archer16
Mar 5th, 2008, 11:38 PM
Considering the current state of American women's tennis, today has to be about the most positive day for women's US tennis in several years. Seriously, if Coco, Asia and Madison don't go on to have good careers, the future of US tennis looks unspeakably bleak. I'm sure there are people who are involved in the future of US Women's tennis who will be pulling out the champagne tonight, in relief as much as anything.
That pretty much sums it up.
None of them looks like a future GS finalist, to put it mildly.

DefyingGravity
Mar 5th, 2008, 11:47 PM
I'm not even looking for a GS finalist or winner. I just want a solid American player, because as long as you have that, you can get Slam winners later on...

Just look at the French, they had great tennis players after a certain point (I think after Durr, but could be later than that) who didn't win a Slam, and then they produced Amelie who finally broke through. If this crop doesn't get that Slam, American tennis isn't doomed for eternity! As long as we keep believing we're going to have that slam winner, and start to use our resources to train our own players, then maybe we would have more success

auntie janie
Mar 6th, 2008, 01:23 AM
coco, asia, madison, and melanie oudin are the 4 true youngsters i would say to watch out for. none have really played a whole lot on the pro circuit yet but when they do they have had decent results.

There's also Gail Brodsky.

ptkten
Mar 6th, 2008, 01:38 AM
Brengle, Muhammed, Brodsky, Oudin, and Vandeweghe are all very capable of reaching the top 100. The difficult part will be taking the next step and getting to the level that's required to challenge for the top tournaments. Certainly not all of them will reach that level but the good thing about this group is that there are so many of them that one is bound to have a breakthrough.

Right now based on results and age it looks like Oudin and Vandeweghe have the best shots but I've seen Brengle, Oudin, Brodsky, and Muhammed all play and the one I was most impressed with was Brodsky.

RJWCapriati
Mar 6th, 2008, 01:40 AM
Oh wow I didn't even know we had a young generation right now! :angel:

Sally Todd
Mar 6th, 2008, 01:53 AM
Since Szavay for President isn't looking to good as a stance right now, I'm casting my vote: Asia Muhammad for President...in 2012! :lol:

Seriously I think Asia has the most potential of the folks named. Years down the road. But I admit I haven't seen Brodsky.

Angela Haynes has a big game that can be quite fun to see when she's on. But she's had to deal with some tough off-court circumstances that took the wind out of her sails right when he was showing signs of arriving, or signs of progress.

As far as some of the other players being the future of US tennis: :help: And Ahsha Rolle deserves to be on the list as well, then, even if she's really backsliding since last year's USO. How's her fitness?

Wolverines08
Mar 6th, 2008, 02:11 AM
Ahsha has gotten alot more fit but it's not exactly transfering to results....I'm going to go with Asia and i've seen all play except Brodsky also...Asia has the luxury of training with Andre and Steffi and she has the game to get there...she's young and with her height i'm sure she's going to get even taller.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Mar 6th, 2008, 04:17 AM
I think Coco Vandeweghe is the best young hope

Lindsayfan32
Mar 6th, 2008, 09:05 AM
Madison Brengle has a great omen on her side. She was runner up in the Australian open girls two years running 06 - 07 I think. Lindsay was runner up in Australian open girls singles in 92 to an aussie player that went no where after that. Lindsay went on to have a great career and win three slams maybe Madison Brengle might do the same.

DimaDinosaur
Mar 6th, 2008, 11:33 AM
Are any of them tall or strong?

Harju.
Mar 6th, 2008, 02:14 PM
I think out of four, I'd bank my money on either Melanie or Coco to be the exciting prospect.

Kworb
Mar 6th, 2008, 02:41 PM
Poor Ahsha, no one ever cares about her.

Lulu.
Mar 6th, 2008, 03:14 PM
Where is Shenay Perry anyway? She just disappeared.

Natarajasana
Mar 6th, 2008, 04:15 PM
Julia Cohen & Mary Gambale ;) :p

Dodoboy.
Mar 6th, 2008, 06:16 PM
Who has the best serve out of those girls?

PamShriver
Mar 6th, 2008, 06:39 PM
I saw Brengle play Mattek at the U.S. Open last year and she seemed pretty short and she did not seem to be particularly fit. She's a really scrappy player and ran everything down, but when you play that kind of gain I think that you had better be very fit if you are going to make any impact. Haven't seen any of the other girls.

Shvedbarilescu
Mar 6th, 2008, 08:41 PM
Where is Shenay Perry anyway? She just disappeared.

Shenay has been injured for quite a while now. She is trying to work her way back to fitness by playing doubles on the US ITF circuit at the moment. She has actually won 3 US ITF doubles titles already this year. Hopefully she will start playing singles soon.

It would be great if Shenay can recapture the form that took her into the top 40 and the Wimbledon 4th round. She is definately my favorite American player of the last 10 years. She has a really nice smart game with a lot variety and I love the slices and off pace stuff.

auntie janie
Mar 6th, 2008, 10:28 PM
Poor Ahsha, no one ever cares about her.

I like Ahsha a lot, but she doesn't really belong with this group; she's several years older than these girls. I think Ahsha turns 23 this month. But it's great to see her doing so well and I hope she keeps on rising.

The Kaz
Mar 6th, 2008, 10:41 PM
Brengle isnt built to be sucessful tennis player.

When I saw her play against Tatiana Perebiynis at this years Australian Open, i was amazed at how short and "chunky" she is, her fitness on the court that day wasn't very good and she got puffed quite easily. Tatiana was outrunning her the whole match and only let her back in her brain left her body in the middle of the first set.

She has nice strokes, but didnt think all that great on court...

Oh well will wait and see what she does with her career :)

Wolverines08
Mar 6th, 2008, 11:16 PM
Who has the best serve out of those girls?

CoCo then Asia.

SvenssonFan
Mar 7th, 2008, 12:35 AM
The only hope for future American women is for up-and-coming young stars from Europe or Asia to apply for U.S. citizenship. :help:

Jakeev
Mar 7th, 2008, 12:51 AM
I'm actually kinda excited about the younger players considering U.S. tennis is in the doldrums.

I think Coco and Melanie, if they can handle the pressure, could become world class tennis players. Asia I think is coming into her own too. I also want to throw in Sabrina Mathews who was dominating at the junior Orange Bowl in 07. I have seen her play and she has a big game.

Madison though I am not so sure about. Time will tell. I am hoping she doesn't go the way of Jessica Kirkland before her. What Brengle does seem to have though is a fighting spirit on court and the will to win. She could become a decent top-50 player but I think she will need to get into better shape.

iPatty
Mar 7th, 2008, 12:56 AM
Perry has so much talent, it would be a shame to see it all go to waste. :( I hope she can become injury-free and return to the tour.

DefyingGravity
Mar 7th, 2008, 01:42 AM
If I may add my two cents in:

Shennay Perry has had the best result in a slam so far of all these girls, reaching 4r of Wimbledon. She's a tremendous athlete, and she knows how to mix it up well and come into net. I didn't know about her injury problems until people started mentioning them. I honestly think she'd be our best hope for a major title just because she's been there before and the raw talent she possesses. I hope she gets better physically and with the rest of her game.

Asia Muhammad seems to be the best non-injured one of this group. She's got a good game, nice athletic potential that's still growing. According to the posters, she's got a good serve and hits a lot like Jankovic, yet plays like Venus. That's a great combination. Let's see her mature some, and then maybe she could prove the fatalists for American tennis wrong.

Madison Brengle has been tossed around as a decent player but out of shape. After seeing a picture of her, I can agree a little. I've yet to see her play, but the scouting report is to make her run (even though I watched a point at the Australian Open that went on FOREVER, and she won it) and to make her hit. A lot more of the girls can do that, so she'd be in trouble for the most part.

Coco Vandeweghe, I don't know how old she is, but she's got skill obviously. Ahsha Rolle is another skilled player. I mean, she took out someone she could be competing against many more times on her first shot at the US Open in Golovin.

Natash.
Mar 7th, 2008, 01:50 AM
Coco was born in 1991 and is a couple of months younger than Asia. :)

I think Asia and Coco have the most potential. Shenay also is a very nice player to watch.

I'm not sold on Madison. She's a big fighter though which is admirable. :)

Natash.
Mar 7th, 2008, 03:10 AM
Great insight. Thanks. :hug:

ptkten
Mar 7th, 2008, 03:48 AM
hello, because i've spent a good portion of my tennis life around this group of young americans, i think i'll put my two cents in on this topic. :)

i think i'll start with melanie because i spend every waking day practicing with her and we play doubles. melanie has a lot of heart, has world class footwork, great speed, and works really hard. she has a really good forehand that's pretty much impossible to read, great passing shots, and in my opinion will be very successful on the tour probably easily breaking into the top 150 or even top 100. but she is going to have to step up her game if she wants to really make it to the top. she has good feel, is in good shape, has a good head on her shoulders, but the girls at the top aren't going to let someone who is 5'4 and just runs everything down stand in their way. she needs to be able to really hurt someone with a shot. this is just an opinion, but i think her game will be similar to hewitt's.


madison is someone i've known for awhile now also. her game is also that of the counterpunching style. she's going to have to be in tip top shape to be successful at the way she plays. she's pretty scrappy and has good anticipation from years of being a retriever, but as far as being top 100 or higher, i'm not too sure about it. maybe, there's always the possibility, but she'd have to change her behavior off court as well as on court. not to mention lose a few extra pounds (that would be the easy part though. :))


asia is also someone that i have a hard time with when it comes to reading her shots. personally, i love asia's groundies. her technique is really nice. she always plays with a very calm demeanor, has a ton of fans because she is a really likeable person, and DEFINITELY has the right people behind her to make it. she's very athletic and lanky (and in my opinion, has the perfect body type to be on america's next top model, haha) but i definitely don't think she hits like venus or jankovic. i don't know who she plays like, but i definitely don't think she plays with a ton of power. that's just my opinion, but this is coming from someone who has seen her play for 4 years and has played her.


coco is the one that i don't know at all, due to the fact that i refuse to be around her for more than 5 minutes at a time as i can only take her in small doses. what i can say about coco is that she has the best athletic genes that i've seen, is probably one of the biggest 16 year olds that i've ever seen (without steroids), and definitely has the game to make it to the top (but you guys probably already knew that). huge forehand, good backhand, good volleys, good variety, and a great serve when it goes in. movement could be improved, and mentally she seems a little fragile. i did see her get defaulted in a doubles match ON match point for jumping on her racquet after losing a point(?). didn't quite see the entire thing. :tape: she seems to be working on that though. very athletic game, definitely one of the best of the young guns in my opinion.


these are my opinions and i just felt like sharing. :D if anyone wants to know stuff about their games i can try to answer questions, considering i'm bored as hell and the only non-productive thing i'm doing is facebook.

Thanks Jamie! We should be including you in the discussion. You had some good results last year.

I saw that you played Gail once, I was impressed with her when I saw her play at the U.S. Open. Can you say anything about her game or her potential?

Also, good to hear that Asia and Melanie are good people. I'll keep supporting them.

AcesHigh
Mar 7th, 2008, 03:53 AM
hello, because i've spent a good portion of my tennis life around this group of young americans, i think i'll put my two cents in on this topic. :)

i think i'll start with melanie because i spend every waking day practicing with her and we play doubles. melanie has a lot of heart, has world class footwork, great speed, and works really hard. she has a really good forehand that's pretty much impossible to read, great passing shots, and in my opinion will be very successful on the tour probably easily breaking into the top 150 or even top 100. but she is going to have to step up her game if she wants to really make it to the top. she has good feel, is in good shape, has a good head on her shoulders, but the girls at the top aren't going to let someone who is 5'4 and just runs everything down stand in their way. she needs to be able to really hurt someone with a shot. this is just an opinion, but i think her game will be similar to hewitt's.


madison is someone i've known for awhile now also. her game is also that of the counterpunching style. she's going to have to be in tip top shape to be successful at the way she plays. she's pretty scrappy and has good anticipation from years of being a retriever, but as far as being top 100 or higher, i'm not too sure about it. maybe, there's always the possibility, but she'd have to change her behavior off court as well as on court. not to mention lose a few extra pounds (that would be the easy part though. :))


asia is also someone that i have a hard time with when it comes to reading her shots. personally, i love asia's groundies. her technique is really nice. she always plays with a very calm demeanor, has a ton of fans because she is a really likeable person, and DEFINITELY has the right people behind her to make it. she's very athletic and lanky (and in my opinion, has the perfect body type to be on america's next top model, haha) but i definitely don't think she hits like venus or jankovic. i don't know who she plays like, but i definitely don't think she plays with a ton of power. that's just my opinion, but this is coming from someone who has seen her play for 4 years and has played her.


coco is the one that i don't know at all, due to the fact that i refuse to be around her for more than 5 minutes at a time as i can only take her in small doses. what i can say about coco is that she has the best athletic genes that i've seen, is probably one of the biggest 16 year olds that i've ever seen (without steroids), and definitely has the game to make it to the top (but you guys probably already knew that). huge forehand, good backhand, good volleys, good variety, and a great serve when it goes in. movement could be improved, and mentally she seems a little fragile. i did see her get defaulted in a doubles match ON match point for jumping on her racquet after losing a point(?). didn't quite see the entire thing. :tape: she seems to be working on that though. very athletic game, definitely one of the best of the young guns in my opinion.


these are my opinions and i just felt like sharing. :D if anyone wants to know stuff about their games i can try to answer questions, considering i'm bored as hell and the only non-productive thing i'm doing is facebook.

Wow, that is awesome :worship: thank you so much

Lulu.
Mar 7th, 2008, 03:55 AM
Shenay has been injured for quite a while now. She is trying to work her way back to fitness by playing doubles on the US ITF circuit at the moment. She has actually won 3 US ITF doubles titles already this year. Hopefully she will start playing singles soon.

It would be great if Shenay can recapture the form that took her into the top 40 and the Wimbledon 4th round. She is definately my favorite American player of the last 10 years. She has a really nice smart game with a lot variety and I love the slices and off pace stuff.


Thats good to know, I was unaware that she was even playing at all. I hope she can get back into singles soon, when she is ready of course.

Jakeev
Mar 7th, 2008, 04:12 AM
coco is the one that i don't know at all, due to the fact that i refuse to be around her for more than 5 minutes at a time as i can only take her in small doses. what i can say about coco is that she has the best athletic genes that i've seen, is probably one of the biggest 16 year olds that i've ever seen (without steroids), and definitely has the game to make it to the top (but you guys probably already knew that). huge forehand, good backhand, good volleys, good variety, and a great serve when it goes in. movement could be improved, and mentally she seems a little fragile. i did see her get defaulted in a doubles match ON match point for jumping on her racquet after losing a point(?). didn't quite see the entire thing. :tape: she seems to be working on that though. very athletic game, definitely one of the best of the young guns in my opinion.

.

Uh oh what's wrong with Coco?:lol:

ptkten
Mar 7th, 2008, 04:33 AM
That was actually the third time I've played Gail. First couple of times I played her, I won very easily. I definitely don't want to make excuses as to why I lost because Gail played very well in our last match, but I had just gotten out of rehab for my shoulder and back. :help: Gail has always been a good striker of the ball for as long as I've known her, but lacks a good bit of control and definitely lacks patience. She plays very one dimensional and hits it very hard. She's not the biggest girl, nor the strongest, so patience is something she absolutely will have to have. The way she plays and her strokes remind me a good bit of Perianu from Romania. She has improved her serve in the last year or so because her second serve has always been a liability for her. It's still kinda shady. I've practiced with her quite a bit and she definitely knows her weaknesses, so it's good that she's improving them. I saw a little bit of her match at the US Open against Pavlyuchenkova last year, she hung in there for a bit but her lack of patience got the best of her and she completely folded in the second. All in all, I think she plays like the typical Russian girl - hard, flat, and tees off on everything. Honestly, I think her potential will be limited if she continues to play like that, because she just doesn't have the physical presence to make that type of game work. I could be wrong. There's a ton of room for improvement in her game though. She'll be a good player.

Thanks a lot. Gail has Eastern European roots so it makes sense that she would play like that ;). I only saw the first set of her match so I didn't see her collapse but it's seems like a few of the girls lack patience because I thought Asia also needed a bit more patience when I saw her play Jovanovski at the Open. They were probably all pretty nervous though, playing there.

I've never seen you play, are you a big hitter or more of a counter puncher?

Erika_Angel
Mar 7th, 2008, 04:46 AM
Jamie, thanks for the insights :) I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts about your own game? Your potential, future? etc.

Shvedbarilescu
Mar 7th, 2008, 07:16 AM
Hahaha, I'm not going to bad mouth anyone. What goes around comes around. There's nothing wrong with her. I'm not going to lie though, tennis-wise she's very talented.

You yourself strike me as a very nice person I must say and obviously very passionate about tennis with great insight. And looking at your results you must have a lot of talent too. Impressive to see you beat Caroline Wozniacki at the US Open juniors 2005 and then you took a set off my favourite player Yari Shvedova. So I'm impressed. I really hope you go on to have a good pro career too. All the best, Jamie and thanks for your insights. :worship:

Sir Stefwhit
Mar 7th, 2008, 07:28 AM
Could someone post photos of these youngins', I admit I'm not familiar with some of em' thanks!

Brengle_Nation
Mar 7th, 2008, 12:59 PM
Of course I'm going to say that Madison can have a bright future. She is a real battler and has great on-court character.

She is having an especially strong week this week having just beaten the world #66!

CrossCourt~Rally
Mar 7th, 2008, 01:11 PM
Hahaha, I'm not going to bad mouth anyone. What goes around comes around. There's nothing wrong with her. I'm not going to lie though, tennis-wise she's very talented.

Thanks for your write up . I really enjoyed it. I have seen coco play a couple times and i have never seen act in anyway but classy on court. She also seems very nice from her online posts ( as do u :D). However, she has even said herself that some people think that she is way over confident and allot of people take her attitude the wrong way :lol:. She just turned 16, so i am sure she will outgrow this stage of her life:).
Thanks for your posts and i hope that you play in the Hammond, LA ( 25K) the week of March 24th :cool:

Becool
Mar 8th, 2008, 05:11 PM
more infos on Asia Muhammed!

Have you talked to her? :)

PamShriver
Mar 8th, 2008, 05:36 PM
Jamie, what's the deal with Brengle's fitness? Is she just not committed? It seems to me that with her style of play she will have to be super-fit in order to have any shot at making a real impact.

disco_rage
Mar 8th, 2008, 08:10 PM
What about Brittany Augustine? what is she like as a player?

Wolverines08
Mar 8th, 2008, 08:14 PM
What about Brittany Augustine? what is she like as a player?

Oh my god I love Brittany...when she's on, she's OOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN....her and Asia used to be UNSTOPPABLE in Doubles!!! I love Brittany's game...she's pretty strong to be so young!

tiptop
Mar 8th, 2008, 09:12 PM
Thanks for your very insightful posts, Jamie. You come across as a nice and down to earth person, something that will surely help you in your further career. Good luck for that.:yeah:

Love you ava btw :lol:


All in all an interesting thread. Probably the future of American tennis is going to be someone we are not even yet talking about, someone who just comes around the corner and:bang. A lot depends on luck, determination and mindset, I guess.

DefyingGravity
Mar 9th, 2008, 01:39 AM
Thanks everyone, especially Jamie!

I've got much more information.

*JR*
Mar 9th, 2008, 03:27 AM
Obviously Carly Gullickson never lived up to her hype, but what about kid sister Chelsea?

And I'm amazed that there's nothing about Alexus Jones ITT. :tape:

Kevin.
Mar 9th, 2008, 03:36 AM
I basically saw all of the girls (including Jamie) except for Coco at the 50k in Lawrenceville.
Here's who I saw:
Asia Muhammed def. Gail Brodsky
Jamie and Melanie practice
Madison Brengle
Mary Gambale
Ashley Weinhold

I saw Ashley play in her 2rQ singles and doubles Q and she has a good serve, and runs the ball and has a really nice slice, and I see potential in her, but seemed kind of bored and not there in her doubles match, probably bc she lost like 75 67 75 an hour before :help:. But she has potential, absolutely.

I didnt see Madison play but she seems pretty cool, like the normal 18 year old ready to go on her own IMO. She seemed short,but i dont remember :help:. Her fitness can be a lot better

I saw Mary play against Lindsay Lee-Waters and I was not that impressed,but she hits the ball hard and clean, but she is the definition of a pusher.

Jamie and Melanie--two girls around my age, seemed very relaxed when hitting, and i defitnely saaw Jamie was rusty after her injuries, but still had fun despite missing a ton of volleys :). Melanie hits the ball real clean, and despite her height difference you better watch out for her in the future. I didnt see Jamie hit a lot, but from what I saw she defitnely has the talent and potential there.

Now Asia and Gail. TWO DIFFERENT GIRLS. Asia is really relaxed on court, her body is very skinny, but she has muscle. Her serve is impeccable, and her backhand is :hearts:. She defitnely has good people around her, and she is the big American hope along with Coco IMO. Gail has a nice serve and hits the ball HARD and she has a lack of focus, but she is really nice, just like Asia, but as Jamie said she is one dimensional and she can improve, she can work on her mental game just a bit, after she won the first set she just lost it, Asia was playing beautifully and would hit with spin and Gail would just hit the ball hard and out. But those two are defitnely watch out for. If Asia continues what she is doing, she will be a star. Gail can be top 100, but she needs to be a little more focused IMO.

And these girls are :hearts: Inside and Out they are nice and beautiful :D

Kevin.
Mar 9th, 2008, 03:38 AM
btw the Asia-Gail score was 46 63 62

Lucyxx
Mar 24th, 2008, 05:58 AM
and you playing qualies in a 25K during the same week .
No need to bash the young upstart. :o

Take a page from some huge country who nurtures their talant. :hatoff:

Derek.
Mar 24th, 2008, 06:26 AM
Ya know, Maddy is a friend, but I stick to what I said earlier about her. Her behavior will have to change off court more so than on court for her to be really successful. As far as I know, she's committed to tennis. Maybe not so much the tennis lifestyle. But I'm sure she knows this, so don't ever count her out. But yes, currently, I would consider her out of shape for her gamestyle.

Madison is a party girl.
Is this what you are referring to?

Kutuzova
Mar 24th, 2008, 09:07 AM
what about Julia Boserup..i think she has alot of talent..what do you think jamie?

auntie janie
Oct 27th, 2008, 11:59 PM
Welcome back, Jamie. :wavey: Thanks for taking the time to post all of your insights. What can you tell us about Kim Couts?

backslapu
Oct 28th, 2008, 12:10 AM
Does anyone know anything about Christina McHale, Sloane Stephens, or Kristie Ahn?

juki
Oct 28th, 2008, 12:52 AM
Jamie you are awesome for answering our questions!

Have you seen or played with Sacha Vickery or Madison Keys yet? Can you gauge there potential? How do you feel about your game and year so far? Whats next for you? Thanks :)

ArturoAce.
Oct 28th, 2008, 02:07 AM
anything on kim ahn nguyen?

Amalgamate
Oct 28th, 2008, 02:16 AM
I wish we had one of the nice up and comer's answering the questions. I have seen jamie play on numerous occassions and :tape: Also Jamie, you should probably go to college...

ArturoAce.
Oct 28th, 2008, 02:38 AM
awww man,, i was really looking foward to seeing her career develop because im a vietnamese american myself. i really hope she continues. thanks for the info bout her.

any other vietnamese players you can talk about?

Natash.
Oct 28th, 2008, 02:39 AM
Anything on Lauren Albanese? :)

Natash.
Oct 28th, 2008, 02:50 AM
I wish we had one of the nice up and comer's answering the questions. I have seen jamie play on numerous occassions and :tape: Also Jamie, you should probably go to college...

Jamie has been very nice, answering everyone's questions with great insight. Not just in this thread either.

ArturoAce.
Oct 28th, 2008, 02:52 AM
oh another question...sorry...

do you know anything about conditions of mashona & shenay?

ArturoAce.
Oct 28th, 2008, 03:02 AM
oh thanks anyway:)

that's it. :D

lolas
Oct 28th, 2008, 11:53 AM
What about Alexa Glatch? She just won two 50k tournaments.

auntie janie
Oct 28th, 2008, 12:34 PM
hey! i haven't seen kim play in awhile so i can't say too much. kim's basically a basher. she loves it when people it hard to her. her shots involve a lot of wrist snap if you watch closely, and she does it well. to hit the ball like that requires really good timing and i think she has that. however, when you play like that and your timing goes off, it causes you to lose control of the ball. she has a nice service motion and when her first serve goes in, it's really good. she's had success in doubles because her and tatishvilli love to stay back and bash cross court. i don't see her volley much, they are more swinging volleys. as far as speed goes, she's average. definitely not the slowest, but i have seen faster and more athletic people. i think her downfall comes when people mix it up against her because it throws her timing off and causes her to make a lot of errors. she has definitely made steady progress in her consistency in the last year and it has shown in her results.

Thanks, Jamie. :)
I follow Kim's results a little bit, and I was happy for her when she received a US Open QWC this year, after missing out last year. She lost to Albanese, but at least she made a real match of it.

But I saw her playing, at a distance, in Allentown last year, and it was frustrating to watch her (and her opponent, too!) stay completely glued to the baseline, as you say. Sometimes I wanted to shout, MOVE FORWARD, KIM! I'd love to think the next group of US players coming up would be more eager to approach the net now and then!

Good luck in those challengers next year, Jamie. I follow the challengers all the time, and I'll be rooting for you. :D

hammerhead
Oct 28th, 2008, 04:30 PM
American Teenagers Ranked Under 500

119 KING, VANIA USA
168 GLATCH, ALEXA USA
207 ALBANESE, LAUREN USA
209 OUDIN, MELANIE USA
223 BRENGLE, MADISON USA
308 COUTS, KIMBERLY USA
386 BRODSKY, GAIL USA
398 MUHAMMED, ASIA USA
416 COHEN, JULIA USA
426 VANDEWEGHE, COCO USA
430 GULLICKSON, CHELSEY USA
450 AHN, KRISTIE HAERIM USA
460 CECIL, MALLORY USA
477 MCHALE, CHRISTINA USA
491 STEPHENS, SLOANE USA

PamShriver
Oct 29th, 2008, 07:20 PM
I saw the Couts match against Albanese and I thought that Couts was by far the better player of the two, but she self-destructed (what's new?) She could easily make top 50 if she had the proper guidance, but she doesn't have the foggiest idea about point construction. Albanese had a great tan, and a Tiffany charm bracelet on, she was very much the epitome of the 'tennis princess' but she didn't seem to have a whole lot of game, especially in comparison to Couts.

I saw Glatch play a couple of matches in qualifying, she's a BIG STRAPPING girl and with her white blonde hair and whippy groundstrokes reminds me a bit of Brenda Schultz. I don't know who thought it would be such a great idea to teach her really loopy groundstrokes with gigantic swings when she was raised on California hardcourts. She also seems terrified to hit a backhand drive and just pretty much chips off that side, which from what I've read her coach seems to think is a great idea, but I'm sorry if you're going to play with the big girls, a chip is a nice thing to have, but you cannot be afraid to drive the ball off the backhand, and that's what it looks like with Alexa that she has no confidence in her backhand drive so she chips. Maybe I'm projecting my own baggage on her because whenever I got nervous I would start choking on my backhand drive and just chip the ball back. Her service motion is a bit goofy too and she really needs to take more advantage of her height. Right now she's a big girl playing a small girls game (think Sanchez or Coetzer) and she doesn't have the natural gifts to play that way, she needs to play a Big girl game.

Amalgamate
Oct 29th, 2008, 07:47 PM
American Teenagers Ranked Under 500

119 KING, VANIA USA
168 GLATCH, ALEXA USA
207 ALBANESE, LAUREN USA
209 OUDIN, MELANIE USA
223 BRENGLE, MADISON USA
308 COUTS, KIMBERLY USA
386 BRODSKY, GAIL USA
398 MUHAMMED, ASIA USA
416 COHEN, JULIA USA
426 VANDEWEGHE, COCO USA
430 GULLICKSON, CHELSEY USA
450 AHN, KRISTIE HAERIM USA
460 CECIL, MALLORY USA
477 MCHALE, CHRISTINA USA
491 STEPHENS, SLOANE USA

Favorites :hearts:
Cohen and Gullickson are in college right now.

the jamierbelyea
Oct 29th, 2008, 07:59 PM
Kristie Ahn has had a lot of encouraging results this year, and she I think is one of the youngest if not the youngest on the list.

Amalgamate
Oct 29th, 2008, 08:01 PM
Kristie Ahn has had a lot of encouraging results this year, and she I think is one of the youngest if not the youngest on the list.

Correct. Kristie is the second youngest with Sloane bringing up the rear as the only 1993 baby.

Tennis-Chick
Oct 29th, 2008, 08:21 PM
Hi Jamie, I enjoyed reading your thoughts on these players, thanks.

What about Brooke Bolender and Lauren Embree? What are there games like? Thanks.

BTW I know you had injuries and thats why you were out, have they healed or are you taking the rest of the year off?
:)

tonybotz
Oct 29th, 2008, 11:22 PM
sharapova isn't american? funny, she seems to reap all the rewards of an american athlete, yet still represents russia. hypocrisy at its finest.

Amalgamate
Oct 30th, 2008, 12:16 AM
:scratch: So are you going to college or not?

Amalgamate
Oct 30th, 2008, 12:18 AM
lauren is a grinder. plain and simple. light, moves well, plays safe. her game is pretty straightforward. i really don't have that much detail on her, her game is just that simple. she will run all day until you miss. she doesn't have a big weapon. she's a good doubles player. i think her serve is the weakest part of her game. she is going to play for florida in the fall of '09.

And you lost to her 3 & 4 in Kansas.

Amalgamate
Oct 30th, 2008, 12:21 AM
No, on here your portray yourself as very nice. But Jamie don't kid yourself, in real life you are anything but...

Amalgamate
Oct 30th, 2008, 12:21 AM
not only did i lose to her in kansas 3 and 4, i lost to her in the backdraw of nationals in berkeley, california 0 and 4. is there anything else you would like to add? :)

Also where you got killed by Julia :)

pancake
Oct 30th, 2008, 12:37 AM
No, on here your portray yourself as very nice. But Jamie don't kid yourself, in real life you are anything but...

Do you have to be that RUDE?

OsloErik
Oct 30th, 2008, 12:39 AM
Before Shenay Perry got injured, I thought she could be a late-blooming American in the top 20. She played a funky kind of serve and volley, and it looked like the kind of game that takes time to develop. Unfortunately, that injury took the air out of her balloon.

Of the youngsters, Asia Muhammed is still very young, but she's quite tall for her age, and from the clips I've seen she appears to be fairly fast. There aren't many fast tall players (Venus being the notable one), but they tend to do pretty well. If she's got a serve AND can move, the rest will come. I'm optimistic that she'll make it to the top 20 sometime.

Tennis-Chick
Oct 30th, 2008, 12:56 AM
brooke is fiesty! she is definitely one to wear her heart on her sleeve. very competitive. she has good hands but doesn't come to the net that often in singles. she does really well in doubles because she has good hands and seems much more comfortable at the net with a partner. her backhand is better than her forehand and it is a drive. forehand grip is pretty western so that can make it hard for her to drive through the ball consistently. it has improved a lot over the last couple of years though. i've played her twice and both times i felt like i didn't know how she was trying to beat me other than by overpowering me, which wasn't going to happen because i am a lot bigger than her. personally, i think brooke has to figure out what her game is. she's young though, so in time she will figure it all out and be okay! :)

lauren is a grinder. plain and simple. light, moves well, plays safe. her game is pretty straightforward. i really don't have that much detail on her, her game is just that simple. she will run all day until you miss. she doesn't have a big weapon. she's a good doubles player. i think her serve is the weakest part of her game. she is going to play for florida in the fall of '09.

Thanks for the feed back Jamie ;)

No, on here your portray yourself as very nice. But Jamie don't kid yourself, in real life you are anything but...

WTF is your problem??
If you have nothing nice or constructive to say, then shut the hell up :weirdo:

Jamie On Court
Oct 30th, 2008, 01:17 AM
just out of curiosity who's another fast tall girl?
like 6ft + tall and fast. Cuz Serena and Jankovic are tallish for women in general but in tennis are medium height.

ummm, that's a good question. all the americans are shrimpy compared to the europeans.

Amalgamate
Oct 30th, 2008, 01:31 AM
I actually know you fairly well off court Jamie. And for all those people calling me rude, it's understandable, but you would be saying the same things if you knew Jamie like I do.

Jamie On Court
Oct 30th, 2008, 01:37 AM
I actually know you fairly well off court Jamie. And for all those people calling me rude, it's understandable, but you would be saying the same things if you knew Jamie like I do.


you've got to be robin white.:lol: maybe someone from rcs. you can't even say you're name, can you? say something truthful for a change.

Wolverines08
Oct 30th, 2008, 02:52 AM
Asia is really good when she wants to be, but she just needs to build some muscle. She can bang the ball but also really construct nice points and creat angles. With her serve, she should always have close sets but she's has a tendency to just let it go WAY OFF...with Gil,I know they will find the perfect balance and give her the coaching she needs to be even better.

OsloErik
Oct 30th, 2008, 04:33 AM
just out of curiosity who's another fast tall girl?
like 6ft + tall and fast. Cuz Serena and Jankovic are tallish for women in general but in tennis are medium height.

Pam Shriver was a very good forward mover, and better than a lot of 6' tall players nowadays in the side-to-side department. I feel like Virginia Ruzici was 5'11 or something, and she was quite speedy. But yeah, Venus is pretty much it at the moment.

DefyingGravity
Mar 28th, 2009, 12:12 PM
A good time to bump, since we're on the last big American events for a while

miffedmax
Mar 28th, 2009, 02:04 PM
Alexa Glatch takes on Ree today.

Alexa's been the Yank on my favorite-in-waiting list for a while and is finally starting to hit her stride.

I don't expect her to win, but she does have a big serve and I hope she can keep it close to build on her accomplishments so far this year.

hammerhead
Mar 28th, 2009, 02:47 PM
You guys didn't even mention Alexa Glatch who will be the highest ranked American after Serena, Venus, Bethanie, and Jill after the Miami results go into the rankings. Given Vania had so many points to defend in Miami, looks like Alexa will indeed be above Vania and very close to Top 100. Alexa is 19. My friend got her autograph at Indian Wells and said she is definitely over 6 feet tall and really strong.

Inger67
Mar 13th, 2014, 01:48 PM
Not quite sure how I got to reading all of these but I just wanted to say I find it quite ironic that everyone was talking about the future of American tennis and not many people were talking about Jamie Hampton, the girl who was here answering your questions, yet she turned out to be more successful than all but 1 :lol: just funny and ironic is all..

Really hope Jamie comes back from injury strongly, she has a great game!

And I just wish more of you would have quoted Jamie's posts because they were deleted but still show up when they get quoted :tape:

pov
Mar 13th, 2014, 02:53 PM
And I just wish more of you would have quoted Jamie's posts because they were deleted but still show up when they get quoted :tape:

:eek: They were deleted but the rude posts directed at her were kept? I wonder why that was.

Inger67
Mar 13th, 2014, 02:55 PM
Well do you think Jamie herself deleted those posts? Or was it the mods? :scratch:

pov
Mar 13th, 2014, 02:58 PM
Well do you think Jamie herself deleted those posts? Or was it the mods? :scratch:
Ah! Good thinking and good point. She probably deleted them herself. :yeah:

Beat
Mar 13th, 2014, 04:47 PM
There's been Coco Vandeweghe, Madison Brengle, Melanie Oudin, Gail Brodsky, Asia Muhammad, Julie Ditty, Jamea Jackson, Shennay Perry, Mashona Washington (though I think I'm pushing it with her), and Angela Haynes

holy shit, reading this list is truly depressing and a reminder how little "talent" and "promise" means in this tough sport.