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pepe72
Feb 17th, 2008, 09:05 AM
Current rank (http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=13129420&postcount=43)


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Hi all.

This is to discuss (or predict) Aga's WTA rank. Tomorrow she should be the 20th female player in the world.

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WTA rank depends on 17 best results in the last 52 weeks. Except 4 Grand Slam and obligatory Tier I which is Miami which will count if player qualifies.
(BTW - I could not confirm Miami at official page. I would appreciate If someone can post me the link.)

So Agnieszka's points this week are:



points date tournament
------ ---------- --------------
250 27.01.2008 Australian O.
140 09.09.2007 US Open
115 10.02.2008 Pattaya
115 05.08.2007 Stockholm
110 21.10.2007 Zurich
90 07.07.2007 Wimbledon
70 15.07.2007 Biella
70 03.04.2007 Miami
60 14.10.2007 Moscow
40 07.10.2007 Stuttgart
35 25.08.2007 New Heaven
35 23.06.2007 Eastbourne
35 26.05.2007 Istanbul
35 06.05.2007 Warsaw
30 22.07.2007 Palermo
25 17.03.2007 Indian W.
---- do not count except Roland Garros ------
10 17.06.2007 Birmingham
5 24.02.2007 Dubai
2 09.06.2007 French O.
1 11.01.2008 Hobart
1 28.10.2007 Linz
1 30.09.2007 Luxembourg
1 20.05.2007 Rome


Total for today is 1257

Next week 5 points from Dubai will disappeared but it will NOT change Aga's points. If she earn more than 25 points it will increase her rank points.

Tomorrow I will describe situation what may happen after Doha.

spriwi
Feb 17th, 2008, 09:31 AM
hi & thanks, but i'd rather u made two tables: obligatory events & non-obligatory events (the same way it's made in the official ATP site when u wanna check rankings breakdown, this makes the situation more clear for someone who reads it)

+ you could have posted it in the statistics thread :angel:

papru
Feb 17th, 2008, 09:37 AM
nice :)
I believe Aga can earn loads of points until Roland Garros + at RG. Actually there can't be worse so her rank shouldn't drop :p she has got only 100 points to defend so there is a chance to move up the ranking a lot before Wimby - this could give her a better seeding so she didnt have to face Top8 in 3rd Round ;)

pepe72
Feb 17th, 2008, 09:44 AM
hi & thanks, but i'd rather u made two tables: obligatory events & non-obligatory events (the same way it's made in the official ATP site when u wanna check rankings breakdown, this makes the situation more clear for someone who reads it)

+ you could have posted it in the statistics thread :angel:

Maybe, but stats contains much more information so it is hard to read. BTW could you send me the link to rankings break down? I cannot find it :(

spriwi
Feb 17th, 2008, 10:04 AM
Maybe, but stats contains much more information so it is hard to read. BTW could you send me the link to rankings break down? I cannot find it :(

i meant for example: http://www.atptennis.com/3/en/players/playerprofiles/pointsbreakdown.asp?player=N409

(taken that there are no masters series in wta tour :p)

pepe72
Feb 18th, 2008, 06:35 AM
Today Agnieszka has got the highest rank. She is the 20th.

The rank around Aga is:

17. Peer Shahar 1480
18. Szavay Agnes 1478
19. Bammer Sybille 1286
20. Radwańska Agnieszka 1257
21. Bondarenko Alona 1141
22. Mauresmo Amelie 1123
23. Schiavone Francesca 1091

Mauresmo will lost 215 points next week. Szavay will lost 10 points next week.
To get higher rank Agnieszka has to:
1. Earn 30 points more than Bammer
2. Earn 221 points more than Szavay
3. Earn 224 points more than Shahar
and of course do not allow Bondarenko, Mauresmo and Schiavone to reduce their distance.

During first round of Qatar T. Open most interesting matches are:

Radwańska - Morigami

Bammer - Nakamura
Szavay - Sugiyama
Shahar - Schiavone
Bondarenko - Daniilidou
Mauresmo - Lisicki

justine schnyder
Feb 18th, 2008, 05:48 PM
Welcome to the boared Pepe :)
I'm glad to see Aga as 20, she deserves this and I'm sure she'll go further than that.
She doesn't have a lot of points to defend in the next months (Exept Miami, where she reached the 4th round..) So She can even get a new best ranking.
Imo, she might pass Shahar who is not in the best shape and had great result in USA last year (I doun't know if I should be happy about it or sad..)

kolan
Feb 18th, 2008, 09:03 PM
i think aga should climb to about #15 before she has a lot of points to defend. i can see her being top 10 by the end of the year :p

pepe72
Feb 19th, 2008, 04:37 AM
Welcome to the boared Pepe :)
I'm glad to see Aga as 20, she deserves this and I'm sure she'll go further than that.
She doesn't have a lot of points to defend in the next months (Exept Miami, where she reached the 4th round..) So She can even get a new best ranking.
Imo, she might pass Shahar who is not in the best shape and had great result in USA last year (I doun't know if I should be happy about it or sad..)

Thanks,

However Agnieszka's draw was really tough and she may loose distance after Doha. :(
We will see ...

justine schnyder
Feb 19th, 2008, 12:44 PM
Thanks,

However Agnieszka's draw was really tough and she may loose distance after Doha. :(
We will see ...

The draw is though, but it's a tier 1 and she has a good chance to make it to the 3rd round which is very good

pepe72
Feb 19th, 2008, 07:40 PM
Doha update:

Shahar Peer - out in 3rd round

Agnes Szavay - out of the tournament in first round, but to get her it is required to be in the final.

Alona Bondarenko - does not participate (medical reasons).

Amelie Mauresmo - out of the tournament in second round.

Francesca Schiavone - out of the tournament in second round.

pepe72
Feb 22nd, 2008, 03:02 PM
Sybille Bammer is out in QF and it means that Agnieszka will be 19th on Monday!


CONGRATULATIONS!

Dexter
Feb 22nd, 2008, 04:32 PM
Schnyder, Golovin, Pietrowa, Safina, Szavay, Peer... all this girl are ahead of Aga in the rankings and suck so far this year or are injured. With little points to defend before RG, I wouldn't be surprised if Aga gets at least inside top16.

pepe72
Feb 22nd, 2008, 09:13 PM
I would not be surprised too. However I have seen other QF where Maria Scharapova destroyed Caroline Wozniacki (btw she spoked with her father in Polish during break!).
So I afraid that Aga miss 1 point to be equal with Agnes Szavay. And her distance to 16th - Nadia Petrova is 315 ranking points. Of course if Aga will win with Maria ...

Good play in Dubai may also help. And we will see what will happen in Indian Wells and Miami.

I will update the status on Monday

pepe72
Feb 25th, 2008, 05:20 AM
Hi folks.

This is second week and Agnieszka is one position higher. Lets hope that next 19 weeks she will be number one :)

Her rank points are as following:

--------- Obligatory ---------
French O. 09.06.2007 2
Wimbledon 07.07.2007 90
US Open 09.09.2007 140
Australian O. 27.01.2008 250
Miami 03.04.2007 70
------------------------------
Doha 24.02.2008 210
Pattaya 10.02.2008 115
Stockholm 05.08.2007 115
Zurich 21.10.2007 110
Biella 15.07.2007 70
Moscow 14.10.2007 60
Stuttgart 07.10.2007 40
New Heaven 25.08.2007 35
Eastbourne 23.06.2007 35
Istanbul 26.05.2007 35
Warsaw 06.05.2007 35
Palermo 22.07.2007 30
--------- Do not count -------
Indian W. 17.03.2007 25 <- will disappear next
Birmingham 17.06.2007 10
Hobart 11.01.2008 1
Linz 28.10.2007 1
Luxembourg 30.09.2007 1
Rome 20.05.2007 1


Total for Aga is 1442. The rank is 19.

:)

pepe72
Feb 25th, 2008, 05:45 AM
Couple words about the opponents.

1627 - 15. Dinara Safina - diff. 185
1569 - 16. Nadia Petrova - diff. 127
1468 - 17. Agnes Szavay - diff. 26
1445 - 18. Shahar Peer - diff. 3

1366 - 20. Sybille Bammer - diff. 76
1297 - 21. Vera Zvonareva - diff. 145
1156 - 22. Na Li - diff. 286
1141 - 23. Alona Bondarenko - diff. 301 - does not matter.


1627 - 15. Dinara Safina (-185)
Dubai - unseeded.
In second round she may play against Anna Chakvetadze. In the second against Jankovic.

Next Points Expire: 70p on 3.04 (Miami)

1569 - 16. Nadia Petrova (-127)
Dubai - unseeded.
If she win 1st round against qualifier, she will play against Henin.

NPE: 65p on 17.03 (Indian Wells)

1468 - 17. Agnes Szavay (-26)
Dubai - unseeded.
Agnes should loose against Shavapova in first round. To get her Aga needs to qualify and win first round.

NPE: 15p on 3.03 (Doha)

1445 - 18. Shahar Peer (-3)
Memphis (t. III)- seeded #3.
Venus Williams plays there as #1 and Tatiana Golovin #2. Finalist earns 100 r.p. winner 140 r.p. To get Shahar, Aga has to be semi-finalists in Dubai.

NPE: 115p on 17.03 (Indian Wells)

1366 - 20. Sybille Bammer (+76)
Dubai - unseeded.
In 2nd round she may play against Marion Bartoli. In 3rd against Justine Henin.

NPE: 210p on 17.03 (Indian Wells)

1297 - 21. Vera Zvonareva (+145)
I cannot find her in any tournament this week.

NPE: 115p on 17.03 (Indian Wells)

1297 - 22. Na Li (+286)
Dubai - unseeded.
Kuzniecova in 2nd round, Sharapova in 3rd.
UPDATE: She finally canceled her Dubai attendance.

NPE: 210p on 17.03 (Indian Wells)

pepe72
Feb 27th, 2008, 06:28 AM
Agnieszka lost in Dubai. She will receive 15 points but it will not count to her rank points. Till IW she will not get better position. However it does not mean that she lose #19.

Sybille Bamer needs 76 points to get Aga. However her lowest countable result is 35. So she needs at least 111 r.p. in Dubai to beat Aga. It means Semi Final in Dubai. In case of beating F. Schiavone 3rd round should be J. Henin. Justine did not play in Doha and is No. 1.

So cheer up folks!

spriwi
Feb 27th, 2008, 12:13 PM
pepe 1) please learn to spell "LOSE" properly ;) no double o there :)

2) i think updating aga's points in the first post of the thread would be very useful, we wouldnt have to look for it


thanks for the info!!! :wavey:

pepe72
Feb 27th, 2008, 05:09 PM
:) Thanks.

I will add link to current rank in first post.

spriwi
Mar 13th, 2008, 10:43 PM
let me comment before IW.

points w/o last year's IW (thanks to TBE) ---only players in bold playing IW

tati 1579 (aga lacks 137)
nicole 1557 (115)
nadia 1505 (63)
agnes 1489 (47)
aga 1442
shahar 1395 (-47)

aga's 17th best result: 30 pts, so she needs to get more than that to gain points

points for IW: (and how many will aga get) =new rank (provived none of players lower than aga goes really deep: shahar at least QF to overcome aga)
r64: 1 (0) = 18
r32: 40 (10) = 18
r16: 65 (35) = 18
QF: 115 (85) = 16
SF: 210 (170) = 14 (provided nicole loses before QF)
(she won't get further--masha there :p)

let's hope at least for QF here and no.16 in the world :drool:

papru
Mar 14th, 2008, 03:09 PM
this would be awesome if she made it to the SF :drool:

pepe72
Mar 20th, 2008, 11:03 AM
Hi all.

I was a little bit busy lately so no updates.

Great news is that Aga SHOULD be 16th after IW. She have earned 115 points and Nadia Petrova and Agnes Szavay did not start there.

spriwi
Mar 20th, 2008, 12:39 PM
Hi all.

I was a little bit busy lately so no updates.

Great news is that Aga SHOULD be 16th after IW. She have earned 115 points and Nadia Petrova and Agnes Szavay did not start there.

look up, it was mentioned already ;)

justine schnyder
Mar 20th, 2008, 08:59 PM
let's hope at least for QF here and no.16 in the world :drool:

Woohoooooooooo Aga!!:D

kolan
Mar 21st, 2008, 05:27 PM
no 16 :woohoo:

CoeXist
Mar 22nd, 2008, 04:19 PM
i checked that without playing aga will be no 15 after miami if she gets 3 points more than agnes, and 51 more than dinara she will be no 13 if she plays as well as in IW she is able to do it :)

justine schnyder
Mar 22nd, 2008, 06:36 PM
i checked that without playing aga will be no 15 after miami if she gets 3 points more than agnes, and 51 more than dinara she will be no 13 if she plays as well as in IW she is able to do it :)

:eek: :eek:
Omg.. C'mon Aga!!!

pepe72
Mar 25th, 2008, 09:55 AM
Hi all.

Aga is 16th today. Total rank points are: 1527. Miami is obligatory tournament, so 70pts. will be replaced by let's hope much better result next week!

Her points are:

--------- Obligatory ---------
French O. 09.06.2007 2
Wimbledon 07.07.2007 90
US Open 09.09.2007 140
Australian O. 27.01.2008 250
Miami 03.04.2007 70
------------------------------
Doha 24.02.2008 210
Indian W. 23.03.2008 115
Pattaya 10.02.2008 115
Stockholm 05.08.2007 115
Zurich 21.10.2007 110
Biella 15.07.2007 70
Moscow 14.10.2007 60
Stuttgart 07.10.2007 40
New Heaven 25.08.2007 35
Eastbourne 23.06.2007 35
Istanbul 26.05.2007 35
Warsaw 06.05.2007 35
--------- Do not count -------
Palermo 22.07.2007 30
Birmingham 17.06.2007 10
Dubai 01.03.2008 1
Hobart 11.01.2008 1
Linz 28.10.2007 1
Luxembourg 30.09.2007 1
Rome 20.05.2007 1

pepe72
Mar 25th, 2008, 10:23 AM
Situation before Miami:

1627 - 13. Dinara Safina - diff. -100
1579 - 14. Tatiana Golovin - diff. -52
1558 - 15. Nicole Vaidisova - diff. -31

1505 - 17. Nadia Petrova - diff. 22
1488 - 18. Agnes Szavay - diff. 39
1400 - 19. Shahar Peer - diff. 127

moreover in case of wining the tournament more players can get Agnieszka. Agnieszka will lose 70 points and Miami result will count for next year.

1627 - 13. Dinara Safina (-100)
Last Miami - 70 pts.
Last Amelia - 70 pts.
+30 points to get her. (Remember, that 70 pts. from last Miami will be lost).
Easy draw in Miami. Bammer/Garbin in 3rd round, Ivanovic in 4th.

1579 - 14. Tatiana Golovin (-52)
Tatiana earned 45 pts. last Miami. Last Amelia I. - 275 pts.
Tatiana does not participate in Miami.

1558 - 15. Nicole Vaidisova (-31)
Nicole had got 125 last year. Aga can lose by 24 pts. with her.
Zvonareva in 3rd round. Hantuchova in 4th.


1505 - 17. Nadia Petrova (22)
Nadia had got 125 last Miami, and 190 in Amelia Island. She needs 267 points to get Aga.
Mauresmo in 3rd round, Jankovic in 4th one.

1488 - 18. Agnes Szavay (39)
Agnes had got also 0 pts. +31 required
She may play against Razzano and Henin.

1400 - 19. Shahar Peer (127)
Shahar had got excellent result last year - 225 pts. She needs 282 to beat Aga!

CoeXist
Mar 25th, 2008, 12:30 PM
Pepe next week will be rejected also points from Amelia Island & real situation is much more comfortable for Aga, but despite of it great job!:)

Dexter
Mar 25th, 2008, 12:32 PM
I don't know from where you get info from. :tape: Nadia was in Miami QFs last year.

pepe72
Mar 25th, 2008, 12:35 PM
Thanks - I will update.

spriwi
Apr 3rd, 2008, 07:35 AM
bepa is in the SF so aga won't get the no.15 position :(

(anyways she didnt really deserve it fot this performance;) )

and polish newspapers wont have to ask fibak why aga's ranking improved after a first round loss :rolls:

papru
Apr 3rd, 2008, 08:09 AM
:fiery:

justine schnyder
Apr 3rd, 2008, 01:06 PM
Ufff
I still think she deserves the 15th place.. More than... Um.. Szavay will be in the 14th place prehaps? :o :o :o

spriwi
Apr 7th, 2008, 01:26 PM
100% aga will be at least no.15 in the world in a week of time.

unless safina goes to the SF and aga loses early she ll get the no.14

if she gets >30 more than szavay (who is in hopeless form) and she does not get less then <60 points than safina, she'll be the no.13 then :eek:

good luck, i keep my fingers crossed :yeah:

SOA_MC
Apr 7th, 2008, 02:02 PM
100% aga will be at least no.15 in the world in a week of time.

unless safina goes to the SF and aga loses early she ll get the no.14

if she gets >30 more than szavay (who is in hopeless form) and she does not get less then <60 points than safina, she'll be the no.13 then :eek:

good luck, i keep my fingers crossed :yeah:

Aga is only defending 71 points between now and RG (Where she lost first round) she should pick up alot of ranking points in the next few months.

justine schnyder
Apr 7th, 2008, 02:15 PM
Aga is only defending 71 points between now and RG (Where she lost first round) she should pick up alot of ranking points in the next few months.

Wow that's quite little.. Aga must take advantage of it :armed:

Btw, I agree with your comment in that interview thread in GM

CoeXist
Apr 7th, 2008, 03:22 PM
Aga is only defending 71 points between now and RG (Where she lost first round) she should pick up alot of ranking points in the next few months.

hmmm i even don't agree that she defends 70 points, cause her 18th is 30, 19th is 15 thus she defends only 45points:D that makes matters even better :D:D:D

kolan
Apr 7th, 2008, 07:54 PM
100% aga will be at least no.15 in the world in a week of time.

unless safina goes to the SF and aga loses early she ll get the no.14

if she gets >30 more than szavay (who is in hopeless form) and she does not get less then <60 points than safina, she'll be the no.13 then :eek:

good luck, i keep my fingers crossed :yeah:

shouldnt be long before shes top 10 :drool:

pepe72
Apr 15th, 2008, 10:27 AM
Hi all

After disaster in Miami and bad performance in Amelia Island Agnieszka is No. 14! Unfortunately Miami result will stay for next year. The only consolation is that last French Open Agnieszka scored 2 so there is big chance to promote in June.

So far lets be pleased of Aga's current rank.


--------- Obligatory ---------
French O. 09.06.2007 2
Wimbledon 07.07.2007 90
US Open 09.09.2007 140
Australian O. 27.01.2008 250
Miami 05.04.2008 1
------------------------------
Doha 24.02.2008 210
Indian W. 23.03.2008 115
Pattaya 10.02.2008 115
Stockholm 05.08.2007 115
Zurich 21.10.2007 110
Biella 15.07.2007 70
Moscow 14.10.2007 60
Stuttgart 07.10.2007 40
Amelia I. 13.04.2008 35
New Heaven 25.08.2007 35
Eastbourne 23.06.2007 35
Istanbul 26.05.2007 35
--------- Do not count -------
Warsaw 06.05.2007 35 <---- next to expire
Palermo 22.07.2007 30
Birmingham 17.06.2007 10
Dubai 01.03.2008 1
Hobart 11.01.2008 1
Linz 28.10.2007 1
Luxembourg 30.09.2007 1
Rome 20.05.2007 1

pepe72
Apr 15th, 2008, 11:07 AM
Situation of Aga's neighbors:

2198 - 11. Marion Bartoli - diff. -740
1915 - 12. Patty Schnyder - diff. -457
1558 - 13. Agnes Szavay - diff. -100

1433 - 15. Nicole Vaidisova - diff. 25
1392 - 16. Dinara Safina - diff. 66
1327 - 17. Vera Zvonareva - diff. 131


2198 - 11. Marion Bartoli (-740)
Min. pts. count: 60
Next to expire: 30 - 6th May
Marion plays in Charleston. No way to get her this tournament.

1915 - 12. Patty Schnyder (-457)
Min. pts. count: 45
Next to expire: 110 - 13th May
Patty plays in Charleston. No way to get her this tournament.

1558 - 13. Agnes Szavay (-100)
Min. pts. count: 1
Next to expire: 65 - 29th April
Agnes plays in Charleston. So far Aga needs to be semi-finalists to get her.

1433 - 15. Nicole Vaidisova (25)
Min. pts. count: 1
Next to expire: 250 - 9th June
Nicole does not play this week.

1392 - 16. Dinara Safina (66)
Min. pts. count: 40
Next to expire: 110 - 13th May
Dinara plays in Charleston. She needs 106 points to get Aga. It means QF.
She may play against A. Szavay in 3rd round, A. Chakvetadze in QF.

1327 - 17. Vera Zvonareva (131)
Min. pts. count: 1
Next to expire: 90 - 9th September
Vera plays in Charleston. She needs 131 points to get Aga. It means QF.
She may play against M. Bartoli in 3rd round, A. Jankovic in QF.

pepe72
May 12th, 2008, 03:01 PM
Aga's rank is 16th now. Because of great progress of Zvonareva and Safina she lost 14th position. Now she needs to participate in the final to promote.

And this is current rank:


--------- Obligatory ---------
French O. 09.06.2007 2
Wimbledon 07.07.2007 90
US Open 09.09.2007 140
Australian O. 27.01.2008 250
Miami 05.04.2008 1
------------------------------
Doha 24.02.2008 210
Indian W. 23.03.2008 115
Pattaya 10.02.2008 115
Stockholm 05.08.2007 115
Zurich 21.10.2007 110
Biella 15.07.2007 70
Berlin O. 11.05.2008 60
Charleston 20.04.2008 60
Moscow 14.10.2007 60
Stuttgart 07.10.2007 40
Amelia I. 13.04.2008 35
New Heaven 25.08.2007 35
--------- Do not count -------
Eastbourne 23.06.2007 35
Istanbul 26.05.2007 35
Palermo 22.07.2007 30
Birmingham 17.06.2007 10
Dubai 01.03.2008 1
Hobart 11.01.2008 1
Linz 28.10.2007 1
Luxembourg 30.09.2007 1
Rome 20.05.2007 1 <---- next to expire

pepe72
May 12th, 2008, 03:33 PM
The closest competitors:

1742 - 13. Vera Zvonareva - diff. -234
1732 - 14. Dinara Safina - diff. -224
1712 - 15. Agnes Szavay - diff. -204
1508 - 16. Agnieszka Radwańska
1434 - 17. Nicole Vaidisova - diff. 74
1245 - 18. Shahar Peer - diff. 263
1189 - 19. Victoria Azarenka - diff 319

1742 - 13. Vera Zvonareva (-234)
Min. pts. count: 30
Next to expire: 90 - 9th September
Vera may play against Venus Williams in 3rd round.
To get her Aga has to play in final (and it may no be enough).

1732 - 14. Dinara Safina (-224)
Min. pts. count: 40
Next to expire: 110 - this week
Dinara withdrew from Rome so SF is enough.

1712 - 15. Agnes Szavay (-204)
Min. pts. count: 30
Next to expire: 65 - this week
Agnes may meet Serena Williams in 3rd round
To get her Aga has to play in final (and it may no be enough).

1434 - 17. Nicole Vaidisova (74)
Min. pts. count: 1
Next to expire: 250 - 9th June
Nicole should meet Maria Sharapova in 3rd round. So 2nd round may be enough.

1245 - 18. Shahar Peer (263)
Min. pts. count: 35
Next to expire: 60 - this week
Shahar withdrew from Rome.

1189 - 19. Victoria Azarenka (319)
Min. pts. count: 1
Next to expire: 2 - 9th June
Victoria will play against Sybille Bammer in 1st round. She may play against Ana Ivanovic in 3rd round. She needs to participate in final to get Aga.

pepe72
May 19th, 2008, 09:36 PM
Aga plays in Stanbul this week. However it will not change her rank. Since J. Henin retired Aga is 15th.

Malva
May 24th, 2008, 08:17 PM
WTA Ranks Update Thread just got updated.

With 2007 Roland Garros points removed Agnieszka shot to #13, ahead of Szávay and Safina, and not much behind #12 Schnyder.

http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=236674

pepe72
May 24th, 2008, 08:24 PM
It is true, however RG points will be removed AFTER RG is over means beginning of June

Malva
May 24th, 2008, 08:55 PM
It is true, however RG points will be removed AFTER RG is over means beginning of June

I know that, pepe77. You are talking about the official ranking. I am -- about the rolling WTA Ranks Update on TennisForum.

jeo
May 28th, 2008, 01:12 PM
Casey Dellacqua def Marion Bartoli [9]. She will have only 2035 pts. after RG. Top10 chance for Aga.

Malva
May 28th, 2008, 01:44 PM
Casey Dellacqua def Marion Bartoli [9]. She will have only 2035 pts. after RG. Top10 chance for Aga.

Premature to talk about it I am afraid. Bartoli out but there are several strong contenders to take her place: Zvonareva, Safina, Szávay. And there is still Patty Schnyder.

Unless Agnieszka improves her serve, and produces consistently more winners, I can't see her winning on a regular basis against top players. At the moment she is vulnerable even with Chakvetadze.

pepe72
May 28th, 2008, 04:40 PM
jeo - hold your horses!

Situation is more less as following:


-399 - Marion Bartoli 2035
-396 - Daniela Hantuchova 2032
-136 - Vera Zvonareva 1772
-54 - Patty Schnyder 1690
Agnieszka Radwańska 1636
45 - Agnes Szavay 1591
114 - Dinara Safina 1522
390 - Victoria Azarenka 1246

(I have removed last year's RG and included 2 points for Bartoli).

So we have to wait, but it is true. In case of SEMI FINAL Aga will take over Marion.



GO AGA, GO!

sharapovarulz1
May 28th, 2008, 08:24 PM
Nice work Aga!!!! :D

papru
May 29th, 2008, 06:38 AM
just in case ;)

pepe72
May 29th, 2008, 02:52 PM
BTW Hantuchova des not participate in RG so SEMI FINAL and 2 top players behind :)

spriwi
May 31st, 2008, 08:34 PM
ok so now as Agnes lost, it's almost certain Aga will improve her ranking after RG.

BAD SCENARIOS:
Dinara will overcome Aga if she reaches SF :scared:
Azarenka will overcome Aga if she reaches F
Penetta or Srebotnic will overcome Aga if one of them wins RG ;) (wanted to be accurate on all the possibilities :rolls:)

if none of mentioned above happens and Aga loses to jj, she ll be no.13 in the world :D :D :D

still, i hope Aga can beat jj, then oust some lame opposition in the QF (penetta/spanish miracle) to reach SF and become the no.9 :hearts: ok, i m dreaming now :)

pepe72
May 31st, 2008, 08:45 PM
Szavay out so maybe your dreams may come true :)

I think that it is our COMMON dream.

Good luck Aga!

Malva
May 31st, 2008, 09:34 PM
still, i hope Aga can beat jj, then oust some lame opposition in the QF (penetta/spanish miracle) to reach SF and become the no.9 :hearts: ok, i m dreaming now :)

I am salivating merely at the thought of it... Well, better not to indulge in such daydreaming. Not yet...

sharapovarulz1
Jun 1st, 2008, 08:19 PM
13* Nice :)

pepe72
Jun 1st, 2008, 10:06 PM
Only if Safina will not reach final.

sharapovarulz1
Jun 1st, 2008, 10:10 PM
Only if Safina will not reach final.

Don't see that happening ;)

pepe72
Jun 1st, 2008, 10:15 PM
Use glasses ;)

There were several surprises this RG.

sharapovarulz1
Jun 1st, 2008, 10:49 PM
Use glasses ;)

There were several surprises this RG.

Suppose! Plus if Maria doesn't start playing well then she ain't got a chance of winning Safina! :(

papru
Jun 2nd, 2008, 06:26 PM
psierdulona Safina :fiery: mad:

AndreConrad
Jun 2nd, 2008, 06:35 PM
psierdulona Safina :fiery: mad:
Don't be mad at Safina, she's doing really well lately. It seems that clay is her cup of tea and not necessarily Maria's. We will see how things will look on grass ;)

SOA_MC
Jun 2nd, 2008, 07:31 PM
psierdulona Safina :fiery: mad:

Hmmmm I'm torn on this Safina threatens Aga's ranking and that's not good but Safina beating the screamer today helps Ana get the #1 ranking:shrug:

sharapovarulz1
Jun 2nd, 2008, 08:12 PM
Don't be mad at Safina, she's doing really well lately. It seems that clay is her cup of tea and not necessarily Maria's. We will see how things will look on grass ;)

Clay will never be Maria's cup of tea :( But Safina did very well today :)

kiew
Jun 13th, 2008, 06:35 PM
I think that in next few weeks Agnieszka has a great opportunity to improve her rank. Last year in Birmingham , Eastbourne and Wimbledon all together she get only 135 points. It's less then form R16 in Wimbledon and i'm sure that Aga is capable of reaching even semi-final. In Eastbourne, Agnieszka as a no 4 also could get many points. As a no 4 she should reach SF what is 125 points.

In my opinion after Wimbledon will get another for sure one position, but mayby more.

250 points ahead of Agnieszka is Bartoli, but last yeat she was in semis in Birmingam and Eastbourne and in Wimbledons Final, so she have almost 1000 points to defend. Furthermore she isn't playing well this season. This year she was no 1 in Birmingam, but she losse already in 2nd round.

Dexter
Jun 21st, 2008, 02:59 PM
#11 b&tches! :rocker2:

justine schnyder
Jun 21st, 2008, 04:48 PM
Yesssssssssssss

spriwi
Jun 21st, 2008, 05:17 PM
without wimby points she's no.9 :drool:

;)

1 Ana Ivanovic 06/11/87 SRB 2 3740
2 Maria Sharapova 19/04/87 RUS 2 3568
3 Jelena Jankovic 28/02/85 SRB 2 3547
4 Svetlana Kuznetsova 27/06/85 RUS 2 3317
5 Elena Dementieva 15/10/81 RUS 2 2657
6 Serena Williams 26/09/81 USA 2 2428
7 Anna Tchakvetadze 05/03/87 RUS 2 2348
8 Dinara Safina 27/04/86 RUS 2 2199
9 Agnieszka Radwanska 06/03/89 POL 2 1923
10 Vera Zvonareva 07/09/84 RUS 2 1914
11 Daniela Hantuchova 23/04/83 SVK 2 1869
12 Patty Schnyder 14/12/78 SUI 2 1802
13 Venus Williams 17/06/80 USA 2 1608

to be in top10 she needs to do better than vera & dani & patty (:haha:) + vee not going further than SF
shouldnt be such a problem :)

justine schnyder
Jun 21st, 2008, 06:15 PM
Actually she can do it.. Daniela is just coming from an injury, and I'm not sure she's even 85% healthy, Vera is unpredictable and Patty+Wimbledon=:help: (:sad:)

sharapovarulz1
Jun 21st, 2008, 07:34 PM
11 bloody brilliant :D

pepe72
Jun 23rd, 2008, 10:24 AM
Aga RULEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!

However I am really pissed off by todays newspaper. Everybody says that Aga is almost 10th (BTW without last Wimbledon it is true! - thanks spriwi) but nobody see that:

Vera Zvonareva is only 9 (nine) points behind (R64)
Daniela Hantuchova is only 54 points behind (R64)
Patty Schnyder is 121 points behind (R16)
Agnes Szavay - 367 (SF)
Marion Bartoli - 591 (Final)
Victoria Azarenka - 627 (Final)
Alize Cornet, Francesca Schiavone, Tatiana Golovin, Nadia Petrova, Shahar Peer more than 700 pts. difference so it requires victory in Wimbledon

pepe72
Jun 23rd, 2008, 10:45 AM
BTW.

Dinara Safina has 276 points more than Aga
Anna Chakvetadze - 425
Serena Williams - 507
Elena Dementieva - 736

So final in Wimbledon and Aga will be top 5 :)

SOA_MC
Jun 23rd, 2008, 10:48 AM
Aga will be top 10 by the US Open;)

Pszczelny
Jun 23rd, 2008, 12:25 PM
The Race

.1. Ivanović ............ 2761 ... 2671 ..... 90
.2. Janković ............ 2645 ... 2505 .... 140
.3. Szarapowa ........... 2455 ... 2395 ..... 60
.4. S.Williams .......... 2015 ... 1765 .... 250
.5. Kuzniecowa .......... 1821 ... 1681 .... 140
.6. Dementiewa .......... 1741 ... 1601 .... 140
.7. A.Radwańska ......... 1727 ... 1477 .... 250
.8. Safina .............. 1723 ... 1633 ..... 90
.9. Zwonariowa .......... 1523 ... 1463 ..... 60
10. V.Williams .......... 1016 .... 766 .... 250
11. Czakwetadze .......... 955 .... 815 .... 140
12. Schnyder ............. 945 .... 943 ...... 2
13. Cornet ............... 927 .... 925 ...... 2
14. Azarenka ............. 883 .... 793 ..... 90
15. Hantuchova ........... 846 .... 786 ..... 60
16. Wozniacki ............ 790 .... 700 ..... 90
17. Szavay ............... 787 .... 647 .... 140
18. Pennetta ............. 782 .... 722 ..... 60
19. Srebotnik ............ 749 .... 747 ...... 2
20. Pietrowa ............. 747 .... 497 .... 250

sharapovarulz1
Jun 23rd, 2008, 09:07 PM
Looking good :D

pepe72
Jun 24th, 2008, 10:27 AM
Patty Schnyder and Alize Cornet out!

After yesterday's victory situation is as following:
69 Vera Zvonareva
114 Daniela Hantuchova
427 Agnes Szavay
591 Marion Bartoli
685 Victoria Azarenka
840 Francesca Schiavone
881 Tatiana Golovin
910 Nadia Petrova

hydrofor
Jun 25th, 2008, 08:33 PM
BTW.

Dinara Safina has 276 points more than Aga
Anna Chakvetadze - 425
Serena Williams - 507
Elena Dementieva - 736

So final in Wimbledon and Aga will be top 5 :)
She should chase not Serena, but Venus. Venus is Wimbledon winner from last year, so if she doesn't reach the final this year, Aga has a huge chance to jump over her :)

jeo
Jun 26th, 2008, 02:00 PM
Tanasugarn def. Zvonareva in 2nd round. It's great gift for Aga's ranking.

Pszczelny
Jun 26th, 2008, 02:15 PM
so with Bepa is out, to overtake Aga:

Hantuchova must be at least in QF
V.Williams in SF
Szavay in final
Bartoli in final
Azarenka, Pennetta, Pietrowa to win

Aga is almost in top 10 :)

papru
Jun 26th, 2008, 06:23 PM
Aga's already 9th :)
this place is already granted unless something you've mentioned happens :) then Aga's 10th :D

Malva
Jun 26th, 2008, 07:12 PM
After Hantuchová's loss it's now nearly official: Agnieszka reaches Top 10!

justine schnyder
Jun 26th, 2008, 07:28 PM
After Hantuchová's loss it's now nearly official: Agnieszka reaches Top 10!

:eek: Yay!!

Malva!! :D Great to have you back!!! :)

Pszczelny
Jun 26th, 2008, 07:33 PM
Aga still can theoretically be 12th

Azarenka beats V.Williams in SF and then beats Szavay or Bartoli in the final :p

sharapovarulz1
Jun 26th, 2008, 08:06 PM
Great stuff Aga, alot of help from the other players today though ;)

Dinayer
Jun 26th, 2008, 08:49 PM
After Hantuchová's loss it's now nearly official: Agnieszka reaches Top 10!

:worship: :worship:

pepe72
Jun 27th, 2008, 07:48 PM
Hi all.

Aga will be 11th ONLY in case of final between Agnes Szavay and Venus Williams. It is possible but I would NOT bet a lot of money for this. And of course Aga has to loose next match.

SOA_MC
Jun 27th, 2008, 07:57 PM
Aga Top 10 end today on some good news:worship:

Pszczelny
Jun 27th, 2008, 08:06 PM
Hi all.

Aga will be 11th ONLY in case of final between Agnes Szavay and Venus Williams. It is possible but I would NOT bet a lot of money for this. And of course Aga has to loose next match.

OR if Azarenka or Pietrowa beats Szavay in the final ;)

but if Aga plays in SF, she will be in top 10 without checking other results :p

polishprodigy
Jun 27th, 2008, 09:04 PM
Aga vs. Sveta.... they play so often! I hope Aga pulls off an upset again!

papru
Jun 27th, 2008, 10:22 PM
OR if Azarenka or Pietrowa beats Szavay in the final ;)

but if Aga plays in SF, she will be in top 10 without checking other results :p

I like that option :p

Pszczelny
Jun 28th, 2008, 05:47 PM
so after today we know:

Aga won't be top 10 if Pietrowa beats Szavay in the final or Szavay plays the final against V.Williams (Aga losing in last 16)

QF doesn't change much: Szavay vs. V.Williams still means Aga out of top 10

:angel:

sharapovarulz1
Jun 29th, 2008, 05:27 PM
I don't think Szavay will make the final!

pepe72
Jun 30th, 2008, 07:41 AM
Till QF Szavay has got no seeded oponent.

Plus you did not believe Safina in the final in RG :)

Dexter
Jun 30th, 2008, 09:08 AM
I'm quite confident that Zheng will beat Szavay... Agnes struggled to beat such a grasscourt queen like Medina Garrigues. :tape:

Pszczelny
Jun 30th, 2008, 10:20 AM
as long Szávay, V.Williams or Pietrowa stay in the draw, the probability of overtaking Aga by them is still higher than zero, we're writing here all the possibilities, though if we're talking about what we believe or not, than I can tell you I don't believe Aga ends this Wimbledon outside top 10 since the tournament started :angel:

Pszczelny
Jun 30th, 2008, 12:35 PM
ok, Aga is now top 10 whatever happens :smoke:

Dexter
Jun 30th, 2008, 12:37 PM
Told ya. :cool:

justine schnyder
Jun 30th, 2008, 01:01 PM
Ok so Szavay won't reach the finals ;)

pepe72
Jun 30th, 2008, 01:23 PM
According to Yahoo we should say something like:

繁體中文版

:)

justine schnyder
Jun 30th, 2008, 01:28 PM
What does it mean? :unsure:

Pszczelny
Jun 30th, 2008, 04:34 PM
The Race - after Wimbledon

.1. Ivanović ............ 2761 ... 2671 ..... 90
.2. Janković ............ 2645 ... 2505 .... 140
.3. S.Williams .......... 2465 ... 1765 .... 700
.4. Szarapowa ........... 2455 ... 2395 ..... 60
.5. Dementiewa .......... 2051 ... 1601 .... 450
.6. Kuzniecowa .......... 1821 ... 1681 .... 140
.7. V.Williams .......... 1766 .... 766 ... 1000
.8. A.Radwańska ......... 1727 ... 1477 .... 250
.9. Safina .............. 1723 ... 1633 ..... 90
10. Zwonariowa .......... 1523 ... 1463 ..... 60
11. Czakwetadze .......... 955 .... 815 .... 140
12. Schnyder ............. 945 .... 943 ...... 2
13. Cornet ............... 927 .... 925 ...... 2
14. Azarenka ............. 883 .... 793 ..... 90
15. Hantuchova ........... 846 .... 786 ..... 60
16. Wozniacki ............ 790 .... 700 ..... 90
17. Szavay ............... 787 .... 647 .... 140
18. Pennetta ............. 782 .... 722 ..... 60
19. Srebotnik ............ 749 .... 747 ...... 2
20. Pietrowa ............. 747 .... 497 .... 250

Pszczelny
Jun 30th, 2008, 04:36 PM
Aga will finish Wimbledon at least 8th in race and 10th in entry

only Venus can overtake Aga

pepe72
Jun 30th, 2008, 05:06 PM
What does it mean? :unsure:

My mistake. It use to be thank you :)

Try babelfish.yahoo.com - it looks like I have made mistake :)

pepe72
Jun 30th, 2008, 05:28 PM
Hi all.

So we have following options.

1. Aga will lose against Serena, Venus will play in final
Aga will be 10th

2. Aga will lose against Serena, Venus will not play in final
Aga will be 9th

3. Aga will beat Serena, Venus will win Wimbledon
Aga will be 9th

4. Aga will beat Serena, Venus won't win Wimbledon
Aga will be 8th

5. Aga will play in final
Aga will be 6th

6. Aga will win Wimbledon, Dementieva will loose against Petrova
Aga will be 5th

And it is all she can do at Wimbledon

sharapovarulz1
Jun 30th, 2008, 05:42 PM
Thanks pepe72 :D

SOA_MC
Jun 30th, 2008, 05:43 PM
Hi all.

So we have following options.

1. Aga will lose against Serena, Venus will play in final
Aga will be 10th

2. Aga will lose against Serena, Venus will not play in final
Aga will be 9th

3. Aga will beat Serena, Venus will win Wimbledon
Aga will be 9th

4. Aga will beat Serena, Venus won't win Wimbledon
Aga will be 8th

5. Aga will play in final
Aga will be 6th

6. Aga will win Wimbledon, Dementieva will loose against Petrova
Aga will be 5th
And it is all she can do at Wimbledon

No worries Aga's got the #5 ranking in the bag:haha:

sharapovarulz1
Jun 30th, 2008, 05:49 PM
No worries Aga's got the #5 ranking in the bag:haha:

:lol: Loving it :worship:

justine schnyder
Jun 30th, 2008, 05:56 PM
Yeah right :lol: :rolls:

_AlbA_
Jul 1st, 2008, 12:11 PM
Hi all.

So we have following options.

1. Aga will lose against Serena, Venus will play in final
Aga will be 10th

2. Aga will lose against Serena, Venus will not play in final
Aga will be 9th

3. Aga will beat Serena, Venus will win Wimbledon
Aga will be 9th

4. Aga will beat Serena, Venus won't win Wimbledon
Aga will be 8th

5. Aga will play in final
Aga will be 6th

6. Aga will win Wimbledon, Dementieva will loose against Petrova
Aga will be 5th

And it is all she can do at Wimbledon

Thanks, Pepe72:kiss:Aga will win Wimbledon and will be 5th, Dementieva will loose against Petrova?:eek::eek::cool::worship:
Vamos, Nadia!!:p

Pszczelny
Jul 3rd, 2008, 01:56 PM
Venus in the final, so Aga will be #10

now fingers crossed for Serena to win Wimbledon, because Venus is also dangerous in the Race :angel:

sharapovarulz1
Jul 3rd, 2008, 05:14 PM
Thanks Pszczelny :D

Malva
Jul 5th, 2008, 06:28 PM
What's Agnieszka's standing in the Race after Wimbledon?

SOA_MC
Jul 5th, 2008, 06:49 PM
What's Agnieszka's standing in the Race after Wimbledon?

Aga drops to 8th 39 points behind Venus

_AlbA_
Jul 6th, 2008, 12:19 PM
Aga drops to 8th 39 points behind Venus

:(:(:(

Malva
Jul 10th, 2008, 09:09 PM
Now Agnieszka is in the Top 10 Last-12-Months Tracking Graph

http://www.coretennis.net/ct/1/image/Players/Graphs/topWta.png

Observe the slope of her ranking curve. It is essentially a linear growth. Amazing...

kasia_q
Jul 10th, 2008, 10:09 PM
Observe the slope of her ranking curve...

If she keeps that pace she'll be no.1 in a few months ;)

Pszczelny
Jul 11th, 2008, 04:00 AM
Observe the slope of her ranking curve. It is essentially a linear growth. Amazing...

yup, that's an important fact she made this rank without any big result, so she doesn't depend on big points from one or two tournaments :)

sharapovarulz1
Jul 12th, 2008, 07:38 AM
Thanks Malva :D

Caipirinha Guy
Jul 13th, 2008, 11:55 AM
I think she will decrease in ranking because she doesn't take part in tournaments in Stanford, Los Angeles and Montreal. Hantuchova, Schnyder, Petrova and Zvonareva will.

Malva
Jul 13th, 2008, 12:44 PM
I think she will decrease in ranking because she doesn't take part in tournaments in Stanford, Los Angeles and Montreal. Hantuchova, Schnyder, Petrova and Zvonareva will.

I wouldn't be too worried about it. All except Zvonareva are far behind and have big points to defend.

So the ranking movement will probably be minimal, if any.

sharapovarulz1
Jul 13th, 2008, 05:52 PM
I wouldn't be too worried about it. All except Zvonareva are far behind and have big points to defend.

So the ranking movement will probably be minimal, if any.

Thats good news :)

pepe72
Jul 14th, 2008, 08:16 AM
Hi all.

This week situatoin looks like:

10. 2141 - Agnieszka Radwańska
She does not play this week
30 pts. which will expiry this week will not change her rank points (min. is 40).
No way to get anybody above.

11. 1972 - Vera Zvonareva (diff. 169)
She plays in Stanford this week (tier II).
To get Aga she needs to win this tournament.

12. 1927 - Daniela Hantuchova (diff. 214)
She also plays in Stanford this week (tier II).
To get Aga she needs to win this tournament.

So in the worse case Aga may be 11th.

spriwi
Jul 14th, 2008, 10:31 AM
none of them will win the tourney. serena will.

pepe72
Jul 14th, 2008, 12:39 PM
hmmmmm. We will see.

This tournament is sparring for Olympics so I would NOT bet a lot for Williams winner.

sharapovarulz1
Jul 14th, 2008, 07:26 PM
Well I must cheer on Serena so Aga can stay in the top 10 ;)

Malva
Jul 14th, 2008, 07:38 PM
Chakvetadze by the way has a lot of points to defend this Summer. I wouldn't be surprised if Agnieszka overtakes her before US Open. Even most ardent Hantuchová's fans think that her returning to the Top 10 this year will be a tall order.

Only Zvonareva appears to be dangerous to Agnieszka's ranking at the moment. I don't see that much difference between being #10 and #11 except that 'Top 10' sounds better.

pepe72
Jul 17th, 2008, 12:49 PM
Hantuchova is OUT.

sharapovarulz1
Jul 17th, 2008, 01:21 PM
Looks like she´ll stay top 10, since Zvonareva has been knocked out early!

AndreConrad
Jul 17th, 2008, 01:38 PM
Looks like she´ll stay top 10, since Zvonareva has been knocked out early!

I think Vera is still in the game; she is playing Samantha Stosur today in Stanford.

Malva
Jul 17th, 2008, 01:43 PM
Looks like she´ll stay top 10, since Zvonareva has been knocked out early!

From which tournament?

sharapovarulz1
Jul 17th, 2008, 04:41 PM
I think Vera is still in the game; she is playing Samantha Stosur today in Stanford.

Oh right my bad, I just saw a thread in GM yesterday where Vera had got knocked out and I just ashumed Stanford! Apologies :)

Malva
Jul 17th, 2008, 05:27 PM
Oh right my bad, I just saw a thread in GM yesterday where Vera had got knocked out and I just ashumed Stanford! Apologies :)

That thread was from Jan 3, 2008.

:: :: ::

In the evening, Вера Звонарёва lost 3:6 2:6 to Samantha Stosur in her first match at Stanford. Thus she gained no ranking points, I suppose.

I watched the match, Stosur was solid throughout while Vera was erratic, interleaving brilliant shots with all too many errors. In the second set, she went down quite meekly, and not because Stosur was really aggressive.

The most remarkable thing about the match was probably that Samantha in the opening game had 3 aces, and in her first two service games something like 5. Total for the match: 10, and only a few double faults.

Zvonarevs's loss means of course that Agnieszka's ranking is secure for the next two weeks I guess.

Malva
Jul 19th, 2008, 04:19 AM
With Chakvetadze losing 3:6 4:6 to Bartoli in Quarter-Final at Stanford University she will not be able to defend her title. Thus the prospect that Agnieszka may be overtaking her in the ranking around the time of US Open, or even sooner, increases.

sharapovarulz1
Jul 19th, 2008, 01:29 PM
With Chakvetadze losing 3:6 4:6 to Bartoli in Quarter-Final at Stanford University she will not be able to defend her title. Thus the prospect that Agnieszka may be overtaking her in the ranking around the time of US Open, or even sooner, increases.

Good to hear :D

Malva
Jul 21st, 2008, 07:25 PM
With Los Angeles points off, Czakvetadze drops to the 9th place with just 1 (one) point more than Agnieszka.

Now, if only Marta could rise to the occasion in her Round 2 match against Anna, then she would help Agnieszka tremendously.

_AlbA_
Jul 21st, 2008, 10:01 PM
With Los Angeles points off, Czakvetadze drops to 9th place with just 1 (one) point more than Agnieszka.

:eek::eek::bounce::bounce:GO AGA!!:bounce::kiss::angel:

Caipirinha Guy
Jul 22nd, 2008, 11:02 AM
GO AGA!!

I would rather say - Go Marta.:devil: (and win with Czakwetadze)

_AlbA_
Jul 22nd, 2008, 11:30 AM
I would rather say - Go Marta.:devil: (and win with Czakwetadze)

I would rather say Go Aga;):):drool::lick:

sharapovarulz1
Jul 22nd, 2008, 11:54 AM
:eek::eek::bounce::bounce:GO AGA!!:bounce::kiss::angel:

Oh Yes :D:worship:

CoeXist
Jul 22nd, 2008, 01:38 PM
i'm thinkin' 'bout if it's possible that aga will be in the Top8 B4 UsOpen?
That would give her a very nice seed - straight way to the quarters...

Malva
Jul 24th, 2008, 10:14 PM
Anna Czakvetadze lost in Los Angeles 4:6 7:5 2:6 to Sybille Bammer. For Bammer this seems to be the first time in a long run that she won 3 matches in a row. This shows also how bad Marta must have been against Czakvetadze.

On Monday Anna will have just 35 points more than Agnieszka.

Iceland
Jul 24th, 2008, 10:23 PM
Was thinking about that too :)! Sounds good for Aga!! She will need to go far in Beijing to secure a good seed for the US Open. With the WS ranked before top 4, a 9-12 seeding is not a gift!

What is sure is that she really has a shot at finishing in top 8 at the end of the year!

sharapovarulz1
Jul 24th, 2008, 10:47 PM
Top 8, come on Aga :D

Malva
Jul 24th, 2008, 11:02 PM
Next week for Chakvetadze is not going to be much nicer: she has 195 points to defend in Montreal. Agnieszka, in comparison, only 115 in Stockholm. Thus Agnieszka's overtaking of Anna a week from now seems a very distinct possibility. I really didn't expect this to be happening so fast.

Anna also has some big points to defend at the US Open. Agnieszka has the 4th Round to defend, and I really hope she can do at least that.


Now, Vera Zvonareva lost after what must have been a fantastic battle to Nadia Petrova, 4:6 5:7. Nadia is an incredible fighter.

This means, next Monday, Agnieszka stays #10, 35 points behind Czakvetadze, and 2141 - 1977 = 164 points ahead of Zvonareva.

With the points for the next week tournaments deducted (Stockholm for Agnieszka, and Montreal for Czakvetadze), Agnieszka is moving into spot #9, 55 points ahead of Anna.

I really wasn't expecting this to be happening so fast.

Anna has been very erratic the last two weeks, Vera is better but still far from convincing. Add to this a really poor form of Daniela, and the picture that emerges is that few forum members should be resentful of the fact that Agnieszka is continuing her climb in the rankings.

Malva
Jul 30th, 2008, 06:51 AM
WIth a surprising defeat of Zvonareva by Razzano 6:3 1:6 7:6(2), Vera cannot overtake Agnieszka, and everything indicates that in 5 days Agnieszka will reach her career high #9.

Pszczelny
Jul 30th, 2008, 07:38 AM
Aga just needs Czaky not to reach SF. In case of QF, Aga must be in Stockholm final. :)

olivero
Jul 30th, 2008, 10:15 AM
Well the most important thing is that Aga will stay in TOP 10, after Vera'a loss.

Dexter
Jul 31st, 2008, 10:52 PM
Et voila! Aga will be #9 on Monday, regardless of the final outcome in Stockholm. :banana:

Aryman3
Jul 31st, 2008, 10:53 PM
Chaky lost, so Aga takes 9th position, but Safina runsaway quickly

Pszczelny
Aug 1st, 2008, 05:36 AM
Et voila! Aga will be #9 on Monday, regardless of the final outcome in Stockholm. :banana:

:banana:

long way to #8 ;)

Malva
Aug 1st, 2008, 06:09 AM
:banana:

long way to #8 ;)

All of this can drastically change after the Olympics and the US Open. Safina already overtook Venus, so now Agnieszka has to catch up the older of the Williams sisters.

olivero
Aug 1st, 2008, 08:14 AM
All of this can drastically change after the Olympics and the US Open. Safina already overtook Venus, so now Agnieszka has to catch up the older of the Williams sisters.
I hope so. Venus has a lot of points to defend in US Open.

When it comes to Safina I don't think Aga can overtake her before 2009 clay season, although anything can happen...

Caipirinha Guy
Aug 1st, 2008, 08:30 AM
I think that she would be #8 in Race if she won Stockholm overtaking Venus?

Malva
Aug 1st, 2008, 09:00 AM
I think that she would be #8 in Race if she won Stockholm overtaking Venus?

Yes, she will. She is not far behind Kuznetsova in the race either.

Dinayer
Aug 1st, 2008, 12:13 PM
:banana:

Malva
Aug 20th, 2008, 04:35 PM
Next Monday Agnieszka will be out of Top 10.

This would not be the case if she won Stockholm or, beat at least Schiavone.

And she will not have a chance of getting there back sooner than in 3 weeks.

Agata.
Aug 20th, 2008, 04:58 PM
You shouldn't have written it today, my day has been already "ruined" by our volleyball and handball players defeats :sad:


To be serious, this things happen, she performed badly and because of that she is lower in the rankings. Nothing to do about this. We should stop looking at the past and concentrate on the future ;)

And I don't care if she is out of Top10 for 2weeks (not 3, if I've counted well) if she comes back there after these weeks, it doesn't affect her seeding in any tournament (in opposition to losing nr8 seed at USO), only gives Chaky fans some happiness for 2 weeks (well, somebody will be higher than her after she losses her SF points at USO- I'll be suprised if she defends them) and Aga haters more reasons to laught from her- I don't care about them :shrug: But only IF she comes back in the TOP10 after these 2 weeks.

sharapovarulz1
Aug 20th, 2008, 07:49 PM
These things happen and I believe she will be back there as soon as possible :D

Malva
Aug 24th, 2008, 12:54 AM
The relevant portion of the rankings with the US Open 2007 points taken off.


1 Ана Ивановић 3474
2 Јелена Јанковић 3267
3 Serena Williams 3093
4 Мария Шарапова 3041
5 Елена Дементьева 2982
6 Динара Сафина 2909
7 Светлана Кузнецова 2483
8 Venus Williams 2138
9 Вера Звонарёва 2029
10 Agnieszka Radwańska 1938
11 Daniela Hantuchová 1847
12 Анна Чакветадзе (ანა ჩაკვეტაძე) 1782




Bartoli who is 13, is 300 points behind Chakvetadze.

Agnieszka even has a chance for #8 after the US Open. Sharapova is virtually certain to be #6.

Note that after Wimbledon Agnieszka was so close behind Safina. Now the gap is almost 1000 points.


P.S. 8 out of 12 spell their names in Cyrillic.

sharapovarulz1
Aug 25th, 2008, 05:15 PM
Hmmm not to bad I suppose! Need a good US Open from Aga :)

Aryman3
Aug 25th, 2008, 11:19 PM
Chaky is no longer a threat for Aga's top ten position

SOA_MC
Aug 26th, 2008, 01:53 AM
Malva can you just write names using the English alphabet this is a English language board

olivero
Aug 26th, 2008, 07:47 AM
Chaky :lol: now I'm less worried about Aga :)

Caipirinha Guy
Aug 26th, 2008, 08:50 AM
Malva, try to use this original not english-made latin russian alphabet:devil: You will be delighted and everyone will be :

transliteration is in the second column :P Have fun:devil:

А а A a
Б б B b
В в V v
Г г G g
Д д D d
Е е Ê ê
Ё ё Ë ë
Ж ж Ž ž
З з Z z
И и I i
Й й J j
К к K k
Л л L l
М м M m
Н н N n
О о O o
П п P p
Р р R r
С с S s
Т т T t
У у U u
Ф ф F f
Х х H h
Ц ц C c
Ч ч Č č
Ш ш Š š
Щ щ Ŝ ŝ
Ъ ъ "
Ы ы Y y
Ь ь '
Э э È è
Ю ю Û û
Я я Â â

Malva
Aug 26th, 2008, 10:40 AM
Martin, I am not sure how to understand your post...

Is your browser display not UTF-8, and you can't see non Latin glyphs? Today such a behavior would be regarded as strange. I use Firefox and occasionally Microsoft's Explorer, and both display all the glyphs by default, even the Georgian glyphs in Anna Chakvetadze (ანა ჩაკვეტაძე), and the Chinese characters in Lǐ Nà (李娜) and Zhèng Jié (鄭潔).

If you don't use some ancient operating system, you should be seeing all the glyphs properly displayed. Do you see something different?

Caipirinha Guy
Aug 26th, 2008, 11:13 AM
I do not see the russian alphabet, :rolleyes: chinese either.

Malva
Aug 26th, 2008, 12:03 PM
I do not see the russian alphabet, :rolleyes: chinese either.

What do you see? PM me a screenshot.

But then you shouldn't be seeing Cyrillic letters in your own post:


А а A a
Б б B b
В в V v
Г г G g
Д д D d
Е е Ę ę
Ё ё Ë ë
Ж ж Ž ž
З з Z z
И и I i
Й й J j
К к K k
Л л L l
М м M m
Н н N n
О о O o
П п P p
Р р R r
С с S s
Т т T t
У у U u
Ф ф F f
Х х H h
Ц ц C c
Ч ч Č č
Ш ш Š š
Щ щ Ŝ ŝ
Ъ ъ "
Ы ы Y y
Ь ь '
Э э Č č
Ю ю Ű ű
Я я Â â


What browser and what operating system do you use?

_AlbA_
Aug 26th, 2008, 12:08 PM
Go Aga:kiss::)leverages the defeat of Chaky:devil::bounce:

Caipirinha Guy
Aug 26th, 2008, 05:09 PM
What do you see? PM me a screenshot.

But then you shouldn't be seeing Cyrillic letters in your own post:




What browser and what operating system do you use?

I see only white squares insted of russian. :) And squares instead of chinese. I don't see the russian letters in my post on my computer. :) I blindly copied them.

netimka
Aug 26th, 2008, 06:15 PM
Its not a browser/operating system but language settings... I cant see the chinese letters on my us laptop where I have set up polish language in the option - I cannot see them nether on IE or FF... but on my deskop, bought in uk where I didnt bother to set up polish language/keyboard I can see the without any problem on both browsers...

HTH

Malva
Aug 26th, 2008, 06:39 PM
Its not a browser/operating system but language settings... I cant see the chinese letters on my us laptop where I have set up polish language in the option - I cannot see them nether on IE or FF... but on my deskop, bought in uk where I didnt bother to set up polish language/keyboard I can see the without any problem on both browsers...

HTH

No this can't be 'language settings' -- do the following experimentt: on your desktop purchased in UK change the locale to Polish. This will change a lot of things, including the keybord map but your browser, and Notepad will still properly display texts, and filenames, in Unicode containing Cyrillic, Greek, Arabic, Hebrew, Chinese glyphs.

Believe me. And this has nothing to do with keyboard settings: I wrote my own keyboard modules under Windows XP, and Windows Vista, so that I can type anything in any Central European Language (any), and when necessary rotate with a single key pressing between 5 different keyboard maps allowing me to type at ease also in any Romance and Nordic language, or Cyrillic, Arabic, Classical Greek (with all the complex combinations of polytonic accents, breathings, and iota subscripts).

If you see white (or black squares) this means only one thing: that you don't have necessary fonts installed. On Windows XP and Windows Vista this wouldn't be possible because the level of internationalization is very good by default. This was a priority for Microsoft in order to gain World wide dominance.

My laptop is one of the least expensive Compaq's with Windows Vista. I use only default fonts and everything is nicely displayed. The Tennis Forum server informs the browsers that postings are UTF-8 encoded, so the encoding is not a problem.

If you have the original Operating System installation CD you can install additional fonts. In international environment you really need good glyph coverage. Starting from Windows XP (and maybe even Windows 2000), Microsoft default fonts like Arial, Courier, Times New Roman, Palatino automatically cover enormous variety of glyphs, including basically all European languages, Hebrew, Arabic, even Chinese. I strongly recommend that you install these missing fonts in order to have your browser, Notepad, and other programs, properly displaying text. Do this as soon as possible.

Matt.
Aug 26th, 2008, 06:45 PM
I'm on a Mac running OS X Tiger here and I can view all of the fonts (Cyrillic, Asian, etc.).

netimka
Aug 26th, 2008, 07:19 PM
netimka's problem is likely of the following nature (and very different from what he thinks):

Whoever preinstalled Windows (I suppose) on her laptop bought in Poland, installed only the minimal subset of fonts, and probably specialized versions with emphasis on Polish (yes, it is possible). I don't want to disappoint you, but it looks very likely that they used obsolete fonts when the glyph coverage was limited a single plane of 256 glyphs. These are leftovers from the Windows 85/98 era, and they are freely available. If you got such fonts installed and your Operating System is XP or Vista, then you were cheated.

If you have the original Operating System installation CD you can install additional fonts. In international environment you really need good glyph coverage. Starting from Windows XP (and maybe even Windows 2000), Microsoft default fonts like Arial, Courier, Times New Roman, Palatino automatically cover enormous variety of glyphs, including basically all European languages, Hebrew, Arabic, even Chinese. I strongly recommend that you install these missing fonts in order to have your browser, Notepad, and other programs, properly displaying text. Do this as soon as possible.

dont think this is a case as I bought my laptop in usa with original xp... the only difference I set up at the beginning is this language option (i wanted to be able to type polish letter with alt IYKWIM) and I didnt bother with it when I bought my deskop in UK with XP again...

Anyway it doesn't bother me and I can read it so be back to Aga... another close by is out Hantuchova... so Aga is staying in Top 10 for awhile?

Malva
Aug 26th, 2008, 07:40 PM
(i wanted to be able to type polish letter with alt IYKWIM) and I didnt bother with it when I bought my deskop in UK with XP again...


Displaying properly glyphs has absolutely nothing to do with keyboard settings, believe me. My keyboard maps also use GrAlt combinations to type diacritics, this is how I type ń, ć, č, ř, and all the others. Displaying properly glyphs depends only on the availability of the corresponding fonts to the corresponding applications (web browsers, Notepad, etc).


Well, displaying properly glyphs ceased generally to be a problem several years ago. Anybody experiencing problems can contact me by PM.

olivero
Aug 27th, 2008, 06:24 PM
omg. Vera had such an easy draw and she lost in the 2nd round!

I hope Aga won't blow it. Perfect chance for getting 9 in ranking and she can get away in Race ranking as well. Good luck!

Malva
Aug 27th, 2008, 10:41 PM
Just shows what kind of mediocre form Zvonareva has been all the Summer, including the Olympics :bigcry:(the tears are for the opportunity wasted by Agnieszka whose mind instead of Olympics was probably focused on :drive: Now I realize that this smiley was created with Agnieszka in mind).

Agnieszka has a chance of returning back to #9 but she must beat Cibulková, and that is not going to be easy. Look how hard her route up is going to be:

Cibulková -> Venus Williams -> Serena Williams (harder even than Safina's hard draw at the Roland Garros).

Matt.
Aug 27th, 2008, 11:13 PM
I'm really, really anxious to see how Aga does tomorrow. I hope there will be a feed. As shown by yesterday, the score-line doesn't indicate a player's form, and I want to see if Aga has improved from yesterday.

OT, I'm really not happy Zvonareva lost. I somehow had her getting to the semis of my racquet bracket. :mad:

sharapovarulz1
Aug 30th, 2008, 03:04 PM
I am anxious to see how she plays too!

_AlbA_
Aug 30th, 2008, 04:57 PM
Aga won!:worship::hearts:
how would it now?:confused:

netimka
Aug 30th, 2008, 07:56 PM
Aga is 10 now with 2076 points..
Vera is 9 - 2087 and wont get any more...
Venus is 8 with 2276 and...

so if Aga win with Venus she will have 2186 ->9 place
to be 8 Aga needs another win

there is an option if Bartionli reach QF and Aga lost to Vee she will overtake Aga
Shyder(f)/Caro/Alize/Flavia/Nadia need F and Aga loosing to Vee to overtake her
hope didnt make any misstake here or miss someone but let concentrate only on Aga keep winning:angel:

HTH

_AlbA_
Aug 30th, 2008, 07:59 PM
10:awww:
Well, no lost to Venus,please;):bounce:

_AlbA_
Aug 30th, 2008, 08:00 PM
thanks:D

SOA_MC
Aug 30th, 2008, 10:51 PM
The race rankings before USO

Rank, Name, Points, Tournaments Played

+1 JANKOVIC, JELENA SRB
2970 15
+2 IVANOVIC, ANA SRB
2821 11
3 WILLIAMS, SERENA USA
2680 10
4 SAFINA, DINARA RUS
2673 16
*5 SHARAPOVA, MARIA RUS
2515 9
6 DEMENTIEVA, ELENA RUS
2405 13
7 KUZNETSOVA, SVETLANA RUS
1932 13
8 WILLIAMS, VENUS USA
1856 9
9 RADWANSKA, AGNIESZKA POL
1805 17
10 ZVONAREVA, VERA RUS
1735 17
11 CHAKVETADZE, ANNA RUS
1310 18
12 WOZNIACKI, CAROLINE DEN
1298 16
13 CORNET, ALIZE FRA
1241 17
14 AZARENKA, VICTORIA BLR
1196 16
15 SCHNYDER, PATTY SUI
1139 18

+ Already qualified for YEC

* Won't play for rest of the year

Malva
Aug 31st, 2008, 12:19 AM
so if Aga win with Venus she will have 2186 ->9 place
to be 8 Aga needs another win

there is an option if Bartionli reach QF and Aga lost to Vee she will overtake Aga
Shyder(f)/Caro/Alize/Flavia/Nadia need F and Aga loosing to Vee to overtake her
hope didnt make any misstake here or miss someone but let concentrate only on Aga keep winning:angel:

HTH

You are mistaken re. Bartoli: as of today, she is 431 pts behind Agnieszka.

I would say, Agnieszka is safe at #10. I am not counting on her winning on Monday, so she will most likely end up just a few points behind Zvonareva.

I am relieved she successfully defended her US Open points.

Malva
Sep 21st, 2008, 03:13 PM
Zvonareva won a Tier III tournament, Agnieszka lost in a Tier I Quarter-Final. They stay in the rankings where they were a week ago. Vera increased her lead slightly to 21 points.

Matt.
Sep 21st, 2008, 06:21 PM
I am relieved she successfully defended her US Open points.

Off topic for this thread, but this sentence struck me as I was reading it: It may be exactly what Aga was thinking at that time.

Malva
Nov 11th, 2008, 10:17 AM
The season is over. Agnieszka at #10 and about 230 points behind Sharapova who has enormous amount of points to defend in Australia. Petrova, #11, is over 300 points behind Isia, and #12, Woźniacki is over 600 points behind — that's a massive lead! Isia already looks like somebody pretty well established at the Top (not yet the top of the Top — for this we'll have to wait a bit longer).

AndreConrad
Nov 11th, 2008, 12:31 PM
If I am not mistaken these are the points Agnieszka has to defend next year:

Tournament Date Points
-------------------------------------------
Australian Open 27-Jan-08 250
Wimbledon 5-Jul-08 250
French Open 7-Jun-08 140
US Open 7-Sep-08 140
Miami 5-Apr-08 1
Eastbourne 21-Jun-08 275
Doha 24-Feb-08 210
YEC 3-Nov-08 185
Istambul 24-May-08 140
Linz 26-Oct-08 125
Pattaya City 10-Feb-08 115
Indian Wells 23-Mar-08 115
Tokyo 21-Sep-08 110
Charleston 20-Apr-08 60
Berlin 11-May-08 60
Rome 18-May-08 60
Stckholm 3-Aug-08 50
------------
2286

Malva
Nov 11th, 2008, 08:49 PM
The same arranged in a chronological order


Tournament Date Points
-------------------------------------------
Australian Open 27-Jan-08 250
Pattaya City 10-Feb-08 115
Doha 24-Feb-08 210
Indian Wells 23-Mar-08 115
Miami 5-Apr-08 1
Charleston 20-Apr-08 60
Berlin 11-May-08 60
Rome 18-May-08 60
Istanbul 24-May-08 140
French Open 7-Jun-08 140
Eastbourne 21-Jun-08 275
Wimbledon 5-Jul-08 250
Stockholm 3-Aug-08 50
US Open 7-Sep-08 140
Tokyo 21-Sep-08 110
Linz 26-Oct-08 125
YEC 3-Nov-08 185
------------
2286


That single victory over Kuznetsova gave her 185 points! In Doha with basically two matches (in February — over Cibulková) she totalled 395 points! A really lucky place for her. Only at AO, Wimbledon and Eastbourne she earned more, but not dramatically more. There she had to work hard for those points.

Cinek
Dec 31st, 2008, 10:39 AM
She will also play good in Miami, Charleston, Berlin, Rome and get many points.

pepe72
Jan 13th, 2009, 05:49 PM
Hi all

New season started so I would suggest to close this topic and start WTA RANK 2009. If no objections I will do this next couple of days

pepe72
Jan 13th, 2009, 05:52 PM
Hi all

New season started so I would suggest to close this topic and start WTA RANK 2009. If no objections I will do this next couple of days

Malva
Jan 13th, 2009, 08:00 PM
Hi all

New season started so I would suggest to close this topic and start WTA RANK 2009. If no objections I will do this next couple of days

Why? I don't understand. There is no need for a new thread. Ranking points are not from January 1 to December 31. This thread is not obsolete.

Matt.
Jan 13th, 2009, 11:32 PM
Why? I don't understand. There is no need for a new thread. Ranking points are not from January 1 to December 31. This thread is not obsolete.

Correct. Based on how WTA rankings work, this thread will only be obsolete when Isia retires or the WTA completely overhauls their ranking system in such a way.

Dexter
Jan 14th, 2009, 06:47 AM
There's no need for creating 2nd thread when this one exists and serves its purpose. I'm not doing anything with it.

Aryman3
Jan 23rd, 2009, 04:14 PM
Actual rankings according to TBE after Friday AO matches

2008 Pts off: AUSTRALIAN OPEN + 50k Waikoloa
LAST UPDATE: 23 Jan 11:45 GMT

DD-MM-YY Nation POINTS
1 Jelena Jankovic 28/02/85 SRB 280 8580
2 Dinara Safina 27/04/86 RUS 280 8030
3 Serena Williams 26/09/81 USA 160 7592
4 Elena Dementieva15/10/81 RUS 160 7476
5 Venus Williams 17/06/80 USA 100 6144
6 Vera Zvonareva 07/09/84 RUS 280 6020
7 Ana Ivanovic 06/11/87 SRB 160 5492
8 Svetlana Kuznetsova27/06/85 RUS 160 5170
9 Agnieszka Radwanska06/03/89 POL 5 3977
10 Nadia Petrova 08/06/82 RUS 280 3882
11 Flavia Pennetta 25/02/82 ITA 160 3280
12 Caroline Wozniacki11/07/1990 DEN 160 3230
13 Alize Cornet 22/01/90 FRA 280 3192
14 Marion Bartoli 02/10/84 FRA 160 3096
15 Vika Azarenka 31/07/89 BLR 160 3046
16 Maria Sharapova 19/04/87 RUS 0 3030
17 Patty Schnyder 14/12/78 SUI 100 3030
18 Dominika Cibulkova06/05/89 SVK 160 2760
19 Anna Tchakvetadze05/03/87 RUS 100 2644
20 Jie Zheng 05/07/83 CHN 160 2266
21 Katarina Srebotnik 12/03/81 SLO 0 2224
22 Ana Isabel Medina31/07/82 ESP 160 2212
23 Amelie Mauresmo 05/07/79 FRA 160 2200
24 Kaia Kanepi 10/06/85 EST 160 2090
25 Agnes Szavay 29/12/88 HUN 5 2059
26 Ai Sugiyama 05/07/75 JPN 160 2030
27 Sybille Bammer 27/04/80 AUT 5 1899
28 Alisa Kleybanova15/07/89 RUS 280 1830
29 Na Li 26/02/82 CHN 0 1718
30 Alona Bondarenko13/08/84 UKR 160 1666

One can easily deduct thar Aga will probably stay in Top 10 as no 9 or 10(it depends mostly on Petrova's performance)
Pennetta needs two more victories and "hordettes" - winning AO finals. February looks like the most dangerous moment for Agnieszka.
As regards Marta -she'll fall to the very end of top 100.

Malva
Jan 24th, 2009, 08:17 AM
One can easily deduct thar Aga will probably stay in Top 10 as no 9 or 10(it depends mostly on Petrova's performance)
Pennetta needs two more victories and "hordettes" - winning AO finals.

Well, I made that «deduction» already, but what is the meaning of "hordettes"?

Aryman3
Jan 24th, 2009, 09:34 AM
This is general name for the upcoming young players ranked so far outside top ten: Wozniacki, Cornet, Cibulkova, Azarenka: some of them still have chances

Malva
Jan 24th, 2009, 12:14 PM
This is general name for the upcoming young players ranked so far outside top ten: Wozniacki, Cornet, Cibulkova, Azarenka: some of them still have chances

Thank you for your kind explanation. What is the etymology of this word? Never encountered it before.

Matt.
Jan 24th, 2009, 01:41 PM
Thank you for your kind explanation. What is the etymology of this word? Never encountered it before.

I've never heard of it either... Google brought up this (http://wtabackspin.blogspot.com/2000/05/wk18-hordette-in-waiting.html), however.

Aryman3
Jan 24th, 2009, 01:51 PM
Have you ever heard of primitive horde(it's Morgan's term - Founding Father of modern anthropology)
Hordettes means that young talents are attacking as group(wave) It's used widely even on this Forum.

Malva
Jan 25th, 2009, 12:11 AM
Have you ever heard of primitive horde(it's Morgan's term - Founding Father of modern anthropology)
Hordettes means that young talents are attacking as group(wave) It's used widely even on this Forum.

I happen to be familiar with the word 'horde' and you don't need the authority of some anthropologist named Morgan to invoke it -- that word existed long before Mr Morgan was born. But I never encountered before the neologism 'hordette'. I must be blind then if your assertion «It's used widely even on this Forum» is correct.

Malva
Jan 25th, 2009, 04:30 AM
After Petrova's poor performance against very determined but also playing poorly, Zvonareva, Agnieszka is staying in #9. Looks pretty realistic that she will not fall out of Top 10, even likely staying where she is: at #9.

Malva
Jan 29th, 2009, 08:07 AM
In spite of her miserable performance at the AO, Agnieszka is still 660 points ahead of #11 (Bartoli). If she starts playing as a Top-tenner, I don't see her leaving Top 10 any time soon. If she doesn't, well, then it is only logical that she shouldn't be Top 10.

I really hope she does...

AndreConrad
Jan 29th, 2009, 10:55 AM
In spite of her miserable performance at the AO, Agnieszka is still 660 points ahead of #11 (Bartoli). If she starts playing as a Top-tenner, I don't see her leaving Top 10 any time soon. If she doesn't, well, then it is only logical that she shouldn't be Top 10.

I really hope she does...

In spite of her poor performance she advanced one position to #9 thanks to Maria's absence. I do share your hope that she will confirm soon that she belongs in the top 10.

AndreConrad
Jan 29th, 2009, 11:16 AM
I think this is Agnieszka's current standing:
1. In descending point value order. Required tournaments first (however I am not sure at the moment if this works the same way)

Tournament Date Points
--------------------------------------
Wimbledon 5-Jul-08 500
French Open 7-Jun-08 280
US Open 7-Sep-08 280
Australian Open 1-Feb-09 5
Miami 5-Apr-08 2
Eastbourne 21-Jun-08 550
Doha 24-Feb-08 420
YEC 3-Nov-08 370
Istambul 24-May-08 280
Linz 26-Oct-08 250
Pattaya City 10-Feb-08 230
Indian Wells 23-Mar-08 230
Tokyo 21-Sep-08 220
Charleston 20-Apr-08 120
Berlin 11-May-08 120
Rome 18-May-08 120
-------
Total 3977


2. In chronological order

Tournament Date Points
--------------------------------------
Pattaya City 10-Feb-08 230
Doha 24-Feb-08 420
Indian Wells 23-Mar-08 230
Miami 5-Apr-08 2
Charleston 20-Apr-08 120
Berlin 11-May-08 120
Rome 18-May-08 120
Istanbul 24-May-08 280
French Open 7-Jun-08 280
Eastbourne 21-Jun-08 550
Wimbledon 5-Jul-08 500
US Open 7-Sep-08 280
Tokyo 21-Sep-08 220
Linz 26-Oct-08 250
YEC 3-Nov-08 370
Australian Open 1-Feb-09 5
-------
3977

cordec
Feb 8th, 2009, 04:21 PM
if Aga doesn't want to lose any of her rank points she need to reach sf or more in Paris, otherwise she won't defend her last year Pattaya gain... Hopefully, the draw isn't so bad. Even Amelie is beatable (although she plays in her country).

AndreConrad
Feb 9th, 2009, 04:19 PM
I think this is Agnieszka's current standing:
1. In descending point value order. Required tournaments first (however I am not sure at the moment if this works the same way)

Tournament Date Points
--------------------------------------
Wimbledon 5-Jul-08 500
French Open 7-Jun-08 280
US Open 7-Sep-08 280
Australian Open 1-Feb-09 5
Miami 5-Apr-08 2
Eastbourne 21-Jun-08 550
Doha 24-Feb-08 420
YEC 3-Nov-08 370
Istambul 24-May-08 280
Linz 26-Oct-08 250
Pattaya City 10-Feb-08 230
Indian Wells 23-Mar-08 230
Tokyo 21-Sep-08 220
Charleston 20-Apr-08 120
Berlin 11-May-08 120
Rome 18-May-08 120
-------
Total 3977


2. In chronological order

Tournament Date Points
--------------------------------------
Pattaya City 10-Feb-08 230
Doha 24-Feb-08 420
Indian Wells 23-Mar-08 230
Miami 5-Apr-08 2
Charleston 20-Apr-08 120
Berlin 11-May-08 120
Rome 18-May-08 120
Istanbul 24-May-08 280
French Open 7-Jun-08 280
Eastbourne 21-Jun-08 550
Wimbledon 5-Jul-08 500
US Open 7-Sep-08 280
Tokyo 21-Sep-08 220
Linz 26-Oct-08 250
YEC 3-Nov-08 370
Australian Open 1-Feb-09 5
-------
3977


I am not quite sure hot elimination of 230 points from Pattaya City and replacing it with 100 points from Stockholm leads to 3867 points as they list for Agnieszka today. I have to have something wrong. Does anyone know?

olivero
Feb 9th, 2009, 05:46 PM
I am not quite sure hot elimination of 230 points from Pattaya City and replacing it with 100 points from Stockholm leads to 3867 points as they list for Agnieszka today. I have to have something wrong. Does anyone know?
She got 120 pts for Sydney, I think they counted those points, not Stockholm.

pepe72
Feb 12th, 2009, 05:18 PM
I have tried to apply new rules to calculate the current Aga'a rank.
I can understand new rules but I have no idea how to calculate current rank.

CoeXist
Feb 12th, 2009, 05:28 PM
It's simple:

4 GS + 4 premiere madnatory (IW, miami, madrid, beijing) + 2 best from premiere 5 (as long as she is top10) + rest to 16 best

now her rank is based on:

4GS + Miami + SEC + 10 best results

AndreConrad
Feb 13th, 2009, 12:19 AM
She got 120 pts for Sydney, I think they counted those points, not Stockholm.

You are correct I forgot the tourney after her loss AT AO :lol:

AndreConrad
Feb 13th, 2009, 12:24 AM
I hope this is correct Agnieszka's current standing:

1. In descending point value order.

Tournament Date Points
--------------------------------------
Wimbledon 5-Jul-08 500
French Open 7-Jun-08 280
US Open 7-Sep-08 280
Australian Open 1-Feb-09 5
Miami 5-Apr-08 2
Eastbourne 21-Jun-08 550
Doha 24-Feb-08 420
YEC 3-Nov-08 370
Istambul 24-May-08 280
Linz 26-Oct-08 250
Indian Wells 23-Mar-08 230
Tokyo 21-Sep-08 220
Charleston 20-Apr-08 120
Berlin 11-May-08 120
Rome 18-May-08 120
Sydney 16-Jan-09 120
-------
Total 3867


2. In chronological order

Tournament Date Points
--------------------------------------
Doha 24-Feb-08 420
Indian Wells 23-Mar-08 230
Miami 5-Apr-08 2
Charleston 20-Apr-08 120
Berlin 11-May-08 120
Rome 18-May-08 120
Istanbul 24-May-08 280
French Open 7-Jun-08 280
Eastbourne 21-Jun-08 550
Wimbledon 5-Jul-08 500
US Open 7-Sep-08 280
Tokyo 21-Sep-08 220
Linz 26-Oct-08 250
YEC 3-Nov-08 370
Sydney 16-Jan-09 120
Australian Open 1-Feb-09 5
-------
3867

pepe72
Feb 13th, 2009, 09:36 AM
It's simple:

4 GS + 4 premiere madnatory (IW, miami, madrid, beijing) + 2 best from premiere 5 (as long as she is top10) + rest to 16 best

now her rank is based on:

4GS + Miami + SEC + 10 best results

I have found new WTA rules and according to the official media presentation it is not so easy.

4 GS
4 premier mandatory (I. Wells, Miami, Madrid, Beijing)
2 of 5 premier5 (Paris, Charleston, Stuttgart, Stanford, LA)
4 of 5 premier (Dubai, Rome, Cincinnati, Toronto, Tokyo)
others up to 16th.

However it is not clear for me, what are the penalties for missing more than one from "4 of 5".
Moreover as I understood the "top 10" assignment will be executed once a year. Means even if Aga become 11th it will change nothing in her obligations.

And I have found nothing about this year - adaptation from old system to new one.

adner
Feb 13th, 2009, 10:09 AM
You are definitely wrong.

4 Slams
4 Mandatory events
2 best of Premier 5 (Dubai, Rome, Cincinatti, Toronto, Tokio)
6 other best results(must include Doha if qualified)

pepe72
Feb 13th, 2009, 12:00 PM
Adner,

You should check the rules, page 11 - "MINIMUM COMMITMENT REQUIREMENTS"

1. Commitments
Top 10 and Marquee Players must commit to specific WTA Tour Tournaments, exclusive of the Grand Slam events and WTA Tour Championships (“Commitment Tournaments”), as outlined below.

Tournament Category - Top 10 Player
Premier Mandatory - 4
Premier 5 - 4
Premier $700 - 2
TOTAL 10

adner
Feb 13th, 2009, 05:36 PM
Adner,

You should check the rules, page 11 - "MINIMUM COMMITMENT REQUIREMENTS"

1. Commitments
Top 10 and Marquee Players must commit to specific WTA Tour Tournaments, exclusive of the Grand Slam events and WTA Tour Championships (“Commitment Tournaments”), as outlined below.

Tournament Category - Top 10 Player
Premier Mandatory - 4
Premier 5 - 4
Premier $700 - 2
TOTAL 10

And? Please, if you don't understand some word you get to read, you should really check the dictionary :rolleyes: hint: commitment

pepe72
Feb 17th, 2009, 07:39 AM
Adner, polish your English.

Hint: "must commit"

It suggests that there is punishment.

adner
Feb 17th, 2009, 07:49 AM
Adner, polish your English.

Hint: "must commit"

It suggests that there is punishment.
I am sorry but I have to use polish for a moment cuz he seems to be dumb enough not to understand what I say in english o.o

Człowieku, czy ty umiesz czytać? Ona musi grać w tych turniejach, które napisałeś, co wcale nie oznacza, że muszą się liczyć do jej rankingu. Może jaśniej. Aga musieć wejść do turniej, ale nie musieć mieć punkt do ranking wliczyć. Być dobra? Ty rozumieć?

CoeXist
Feb 17th, 2009, 09:49 AM
guys please talk in friendly manner ;) yes she have to commit to such tournaments but her ranks still is based on:
4 grand sslam
1 yec
4 premiere mandatory
2 premiere v (till she's named TOP10 player)
and the rest best ;)

if you do not believe me please read this more carefully:

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/3/global/includes/TrackIt.asp?file=http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/3/global/Pdfs/rankings/howitworks.pdf

adner
Feb 17th, 2009, 11:04 AM
guys please talk in friendly manner ;) yes she have to commit to such tournaments but her ranks still is based on:
4 grand sslam
1 yec
4 premiere mandatory
2 premiere v (till she's named TOP10 player)
and the rest best ;)

if you do not believe me please read this more carefully:

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/3/global/includes/TrackIt.asp?file=http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/3/global/Pdfs/rankings/howitworks.pdf

Which is just what I am trying to tell him :angel:
And she will be considered a TOP 10 player for the rest of year as they don't shuffle that position during the season.

CoeXist
Feb 17th, 2009, 11:09 AM
Which is just what I am trying to tell him :angel:
And she will be considered a TOP 10 player for the rest of year as they don't shuffle that position during the season.

i know adner buy you could have been a little nicer :)

pepe72
Feb 17th, 2009, 07:24 PM
I am sorry but I have to use polish for a moment cuz he seems to be dumb enough not to understand what I say in english o.o

Człowieku, czy ty umiesz czytać? Ona musi grać w tych turniejach, które napisałeś, co wcale nie oznacza, że muszą się liczyć do jej rankingu. Może jaśniej. Aga musieć wejść do turniej, ale nie musieć mieć punkt do ranking wliczyć. Być dobra? Ty rozumieć?

Try to understand.

If something is obligatory it means that there is some kind of punishment if ones breach the obligations. As I clearly stated I DO NOT KNOW what exactly is the punishment. Especially that official presentation for media:
www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/3/global/pdfs//shared/roadmap/media.pdf
(page 24) says that Possible "0" pointers for Top 10 players is 14.
Before you insult somebody try to read what ones have written.

Translation to Polish, however I do not think that this is the problem

W dorosłym świecie obowiązkowy znaczy, że wystepuje kara za niedotrzymanie. I jak to napisalem w #216 nie wiem jaka jest kara. W szczególności, że oficalna prezentacja dla mediow [tu link] na stronie 24 stwierdza, że "0" w rankingu może wystapić 14 razy.
Nim kogoś dzieciaku zaczniesz obrażać spróbuj poczytać co zostało napisane.

olivero
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:00 AM
so now Aga's ranking looks like that

In descending point value order.

Tournament Date Points
--------------------------------------
Wimbledon 5-Jul-08 500
French Open 7-Jun-08 280
US Open 7-Sep-08 280
Australian Open 1-Feb-09 5
Miami 5-Apr-08 2
Dubai 21-Feb-09 1*
Eastbourne 21-Jun-08 550
YEC 3-Nov-08 370
Istambul 24-May-08 280
Linz 26-Oct-08 250
Indian Wells 23-Mar-08 230
Tokyo 21-Sep-08 220
Charleston 20-Apr-08 120
Berlin 11-May-08 120
Rome 18-May-08 120
Sydney 16-Jan-09 120
-------
Total 3448

* - Premier 5


right?

and her closest rivals:
9. Nadia Petrova 3882
10. Agnieszka Radwańska 3448
11. Viktoria Azarenka 3406

it seems Aga may drop out of TOP 10 after IW

Aryman3
Mar 10th, 2009, 05:44 AM
On start of IW 2009 Agnieszka is eleventh losing about 100 points to Azarenka and with just 2 more points than Bartoli.
Marta is 94th and Ula-102 If Aga reach SF she could top Petrova(injured)

olivero
Mar 19th, 2009, 08:11 PM
With today's loss Agnieszka is out of TOP 10.
but hopefully she'll be back there after Miami ;)

Malva
Mar 25th, 2009, 01:03 AM
I was disappointed to note that with the Miami points off, Agnieszka is still far behind Azarenka and Petrova. Even if she beat Pavlyuchenkova, she would be at #11 at the start of the Miami.

olivero
May 2nd, 2009, 12:34 PM
Updated


Tournament Date Points
--------------------------------------
Wimbledon 5-Jul-08 500
French Open 7-Jun-08 280
US Open 7-Sep-08 280
Australian Open 1-Feb-09 5
--------------------------------------
Indian Wells 22-Mar-09 250
Miami 5-Apr-09 140
--------------------------------------
Eastbourne 21-Jun-08 550
YEC 3-Nov-08 370
Istambul 24-May-08 280
Linz 26-Oct-08 250
Tokyo 21-Sep-08 220
Berlin 11-May-08 120
Rome 18-May-08 120
Sydney 16-Jan-09 120
Paris 15-Feb-09 120
Dubai 21-Feb-09 1*
-------
Total 3606

* - Premier 5

next points coming off - Berlin

olivero
Jun 30th, 2009, 05:21 PM
After Wimbledon (current rank #14)


Tournament Date Points
--------------------------------------
Wimbledon 5-Jul-09 500
French Open 7-Jun-09 280
US Open 7-Sep-08 280
Australian Open 1-Feb-09 5
--------------------------------------
Indian Wells 22-Mar-09 250
Miami 5-Apr-09 140
Madrid 17-May-09 5
--------------------------------------
YEC 3-Nov-08 370
Linz 26-Oct-08 250
Tokyo 21-Sep-08 220
Rome 9-May-09 200*
Sydney 16-Jan-09 120
Paris 15-Feb-09 120
Stuttgart 3-May-09 120
Eastbourne 20-Jun-09 120
Dubai 21-Feb-09 1*
-------
Total 2981

* - Premier 5

Agnieszka is very likely to stay in TOP 16 before US Open since she has no points to defend in US Open Series + she can gain many points in Cincinnati (replacing Dubai) :)

Does anybody know will her Top 10 status last till the end of 2009?

Caipirinha Guy
Jun 30th, 2009, 08:03 PM
This status should be over after Wimbledon.

adner
Jul 1st, 2009, 09:57 AM
No, it will stay until the end of year.

Agnieszka is not just "very likely" to stay in top 16, shes very likely to advance back to top 12 as her opponents have massive amounts of points to defend.

Cinek
Sep 11th, 2009, 08:25 PM
The best for Aga will be when Aga be 11 in the rank in the end of season.
She can do it, because Ivanovic said she do a rest from tennis on few months and Aga only must defend her points in few tournaments and Petrova fall down behind Aga, because Petrova must defens many points than Aga and Aga be in 11 in the rank. It will be the best place in 2010 to attack the top 10 and maybe be top8,7...

Cinek
Sep 30th, 2009, 10:42 PM
why Aga has got 2980 points? I thought that if she be in QF, she got +200 points and has got 3100 points and will be 11 (before Ana) http://tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=236674

Malva
Oct 9th, 2009, 08:39 PM
Isia back to the Top 10. Cheer up!

AndreConrad
Oct 9th, 2009, 11:39 PM
Isia back to the Top 10. Cheer up!
Good to see you back... but Agnieszka has to defeat Marion, otherwise Marion will become #10

Malva
Oct 10th, 2009, 03:31 AM
Good to see you back... but Agnieszka has to defeat Marion, otherwise Marion will become #10

Yes, I noticed that too. I hope this may provide her a necessary motivation. Actually, even better this way... She must win if she wants to enter Top 10 but if she does she earns so many points she may have a passing shot even at #9.

Malva
Oct 10th, 2009, 05:20 PM
I am so happy she retained her motivation & focus levels and she is is firmly in the Top 10 again.

Cinek
Jan 22nd, 2010, 02:50 PM
Aga will be '9' after AO 2010 and if she win with Schaivone, she can be '8' (120 points to Jankovic) :).

AndreConrad
Jan 22nd, 2010, 03:05 PM
Aga will be '9' after AO 2010 and if she win with Schaivone, she can be '8' (120 points to Jankovic) :).
I don't think so Jelena still got 160 points for AO so she is leading by 240 points. Look here: http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=236674

Aryman3
Feb 1st, 2010, 08:40 AM
Aga is back on 9th position in singles ranking
What's more important - she is now the highest ever ranked Pole in doubles(no. 32)
Congratulations Aga
Show your class in Bydgoszcz against Wickmayer and Flipkens

Agata.
Feb 1st, 2010, 11:03 AM
^^Congrats Agnieszka :yeah:
Career-high now both in singles and doubles

Aryman3
Feb 13th, 2010, 01:56 PM
Pennetta lost to Safarzova in Paris SF. It's good news for Aga.
If she wins in eventual 3 round Dubai direct showdown Aga may even attack the 8th position

Shvedbarilescu
Feb 15th, 2010, 06:15 PM
Given Jankovic's current form and the fact that Jelena has absolutely no points to defend in either Indian Wells or Miami I can not see Aga overtaking Jankovic in the ranking anytime soon.

I can however see a fairly good possibility for Aga finally capturing that 8th spot in the rankings occuring in the very near future. Azarenka was in incredible form last year at this time but over the next month all those points she gained from last year will be dropping over.

Next week Azarenka's points for winning Memphis last year fall off. Soon after her points for semi in Indian Wells and Miami fall off. With the Memphis points off Aga is just under 1100 points behind Azarenka. Azarenka has 1000 points to defend in Miami and 450 in Indian Wells. Aga has 140 and 250 points to defend respectively. So basically all Aga needs to do over her next three tournaments is to out perform Azarenka and when the rankings come out after Miami is finished she could very conceivably find herself ranked at number 8. Of course this won't be easy, particularly as Azarenka played well at the AO and we must assume she will continue to play for these three events but it there certainly is a possibility for Aga.

adner
Feb 15th, 2010, 06:23 PM
What is "Jankovic's current form"? Do you judge it by her beating Kleybanova? :p

AndreConrad
Feb 15th, 2010, 06:40 PM
What is "Jankovic's current form"? Do you judge it by her beating Kleybanova? :p
If you look at it from this perspective the objectively Agnieszka is not in much better shape if at all.

adner
Feb 15th, 2010, 06:41 PM
If you look at it from this perspective the objectively Agnieszka is not in much better shape if at all.

I mean, you said that she's in good form but what do you base that on?

ArturZ
Feb 18th, 2010, 02:30 PM
She's done it, new #8 :D

Cinek
Feb 18th, 2010, 02:54 PM
Good job Aga :worship: