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"Topaz"
Jul 28th, 2002, 10:09 PM
Once again, Venus beams in victory!

Fans and non-fans alike can revel in this kind of success that comes after hard work, dedication and sacrifice, despite ominous social and personal hurdles.

Simply Venus!

iluvtrent
Jul 28th, 2002, 10:10 PM
Venus wins BOW final in straight sets!! She now has 26 career titles!!

"Topaz"
Jul 28th, 2002, 10:11 PM
Congrats Vee on your 63-63 victory over Kim!

Good tourney, Kim!

Playa
Jul 28th, 2002, 10:36 PM
CONTRATS VENUS !!!
What a fantastic JOB !

GogoGirl
Jul 28th, 2002, 10:39 PM
Praises are definitely warranted for Victory Venus. I had a strong feeling she would walk away w/the throphy. After all, she considers this area her domain. She grew up in the area and she loves it probably better than any other place on earth.

+ Her daddy was in the stands 2. IMO - Venus excels and has more confidence when Pops in on hand.

Kudos to Kim for reaching the final - and especially since she won here last year.

"WAY TO GO - VENUS" "I KNEW YOU WOULD GO DOWN EITHER FIGHTING OR WINNING" "CONGRATULATIONS" "ENJOY - AND SEE YOU NEXT WEEK" "KEEP THEM WHEELS AND PEDALS TO THE METAL - GIRLFRIEND"

"I LOVE U X SISTERS X 2"

Ntosake
Jul 28th, 2002, 10:41 PM
Yesssssssss! I'm glad to see Venus get a win here!


Congratulations, Venus, BOTW Champion!:kiss:

And Congrats to Kim also, who had a good tourney run.

QueenO
Jul 28th, 2002, 10:43 PM
Congrats Venus.... :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

yoyo
Jul 28th, 2002, 10:53 PM
I am happy for her and I have my fingers crossed for the US OPEN. That's the one I really want her to win now even if she will have to crush Lis Sis!

Althea
Jul 28th, 2002, 11:15 PM
Congratulations Venus:)
Best wishes to both Venus and Serena at the USO
and to each... Just get out there and play your game!

Rubylips
Jul 28th, 2002, 11:41 PM
Believe me,Venus will win.She let her little sister Serena , do her thing.Now its back to be Ms. Q-Vee.Can you dig it.!

Rubylips
Jul 28th, 2002, 11:41 PM
sorrow,mean being.lol

GogoGirl
Jul 28th, 2002, 11:57 PM
For goodness sakes. Venus had 10 - count 'em - double faults. Wow!

Kim say she didn't think Venus made too many UEs.



www.sportsillustrated.cnn.com


Back on track

Venus ends drought with win at Bank of the West
Posted: Sunday July 28, 2002 6:38 PM
Updated: Sunday July 28, 2002 7:01 PM


STANFORD, Calif. (AP) -- There's more to Venus Williams than pure power.

With savvy shotmaking -- and, of course, her booming serve -- Williams defeated Belgian Kim Clijsters 6-3, 6-3 Sunday to win the Bank of the West Classic title.

Williams, the top seed, won her fifth title of the year to maintain her No. 2 ranking behind sister Serena Williams, the Wimbledon champion.

Clijsters, the fourth seed and defending champion, will fall from No. 5 in the world to No. 7 with the loss at Taube Family Tennis Center.

Clijsters, with boyfriend and top-ranked men's star Lleyton Hewitt looking on, valiantly tried to keep up with the lanky Williams, who fired off a 112-mph ace to seal the first set.

Williams kept her 19-year-old opponent on the run throughout the 1-hour, 4-minute match with precise shots, compensating for an uncharacteristic 10 double-faults.

She thwarted Clijsters in the opening game of the second set with a perfectly executed tap that just cleared the net.

When Clijsters double-faulted later in the set, she visibly shrugged in frustration. For the next point, Williams blasted her with an unreturnable smash and went up 3-0.

Down 4-0 in the set, Clijsters wouldn't give in. She finally broke Williams, who was serving for the match to narrow it to 5-3.

"It was good to break her in that match," Clijsters said. "She's got so much power. She hardly made any unforced errors, I think."

Williams, closely watched by her father, Richard, and the sellout crowd, came right back to break Clijsters for the victory.

"That's why she was No. 1, when she feels she needs to, she does a little bit extra," said Clijsters, who struggled recently with shoulder and upper arm pain.

Williams beat Lisa Raymond in the semifinals to advance in the $585,000 tournament. Clijsters upset second-seeded Lindsay Davenport, who played in her first tournament in nine months after a knee injury.

Earlier this year, Clijsters beat Williams in the final at Hamburg to even their career series at 1-1. Williams won in the quarterfinals of the U.S. Open last year.

Williams, who made her eighth appearance at Stanford, won the title in 2000 with a victory over two-time champion Davenport.

Clijsters, whose lone title this year came at Hamburg, defeated Davenport in the Bank of the West last year.

Serena Williams, who took the No. 1 rank from her older sister with her victory at Wimbledon, did not play in the Northern California event.

KingA
Jul 29th, 2002, 12:14 AM
I really do appreciate the success of Venus, even though I don't like her!!!

persond
Jul 29th, 2002, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by KingA
I really do appreciate the success of Venus, even though I don't like her!!!

:D :D KingA, at least you have the decency to admit and credit her for her success. I really couldn't ask for more!!!:kiss: :kiss:

HAIL-VENUS
Jul 29th, 2002, 01:06 AM
YAAAAAYYY!!!!
My Queen is winning titles again!!!! Go, Vee-nuus!

harloo
Jul 29th, 2002, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by Rubylips
Believe me,Venus will win.She let her little sister Serena , do her thing.Now its back to be Ms. Q-Vee.Can you dig it.!

You never know what will happen in a slam. Let's hope both Venus and Serena make it to the finals. I would like Vee to win this time, but if Serena wins then so be it.;) :D

Jovon
Jul 29th, 2002, 03:21 AM
I believe this is a wonderful start to the hard court season for Ms Venus Williams ending of course with a hard court Slam victory!!!!!:D

TeeRexx
Jul 29th, 2002, 06:20 AM
Both VENUS and this thread will continue at the top!! :)

Go VENUS!!

Amanda
Jul 29th, 2002, 06:25 AM
Venus...Back to the top where she belongs! Impressive stuff from Venus today. ......more than just power!!!!!!!!! Go VENUS!!!

Williams Rulez
Jul 29th, 2002, 10:58 AM
Hurray... Venus is such a champion! :D

"Topaz"
Jul 29th, 2002, 01:18 PM
Keep it up, Vee! :wavey:

servenrichie
Jul 29th, 2002, 01:41 PM
Go Venus!

Hulet
Jul 29th, 2002, 02:20 PM
awesome job, venus :bounce:

Go win Acura too :)

lala
Jul 29th, 2002, 02:21 PM
We Love you Venus :kiss: You champion you!!!! Now take San Diego too.......

Joseosu19
Jul 29th, 2002, 03:03 PM
She's just too tough...She deserved this win...Nice job Venus:)

Bright Red
Jul 29th, 2002, 03:17 PM
Now this is the Venus I'm used to reading about.

Keep on winning, Venus. You're the best!

Roseie
Jul 29th, 2002, 03:38 PM
Congrats Venus, nice job. Now keep working on that 2nd serve so it can be consistant at 100 MPH.

GrandSlammed
Jul 29th, 2002, 04:49 PM
I heard that Roseie... back that massive 1st serve up, with a punishing 2nd serve Venus. Serena's 2nd serve, as good as it already is, only seems to be getting stronger ... incredible.

TeeRexx
Jul 29th, 2002, 10:59 PM
Come on, VENUS and smack little sis around at the Open.
Just very little smacks, that is. :)

Infiniti2001
Jul 30th, 2002, 12:40 AM
http://www.fortunecity.com/olympia/bischoff/239/19aa5e5e0.gif




IS AWESOME!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Playa
Jul 30th, 2002, 01:20 AM
That's cute Infiniti.

persond
Jul 30th, 2002, 01:24 AM
:wavey: Hi Infiniti01:wavey:

Great post. I just love your graphics!!:kiss: :kiss: :hearts: :hearts:

Larrybid
Jul 30th, 2002, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by GrandSlammed
I heard that Roseie... back that massive 1st serve up, with a punishing 2nd serve Venus. Serena's 2nd serve, as good as it already is, only seems to be getting stronger ... incredible.

Alas the problem is Venus' serve has been shaky all year. The good news is that is doesn't matter except when she's playing her sister. I hope she get's it together this summer, same as she has the last 2 summers. But the fact that she had double digit double-faults concerns me for the Open showdown with lil sis.

Jovon
Jul 30th, 2002, 05:03 AM
Thats soooo nice Infiniti2001:hearts:

LucasArg
Jul 30th, 2002, 06:40 AM
Congrats Queen Vee:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Williams Rulez
Jul 30th, 2002, 08:30 AM
Hehe... if Venus gets a second serve as good as Serena's... she'll be very close to being unbeatable... :)

Raisin
Jul 30th, 2002, 09:53 AM
Oh my infiniti, you come up with wonderful graphics about the queen:wavey:

Go Venus:bounce:

RAA
Jul 30th, 2002, 02:42 PM
Glad to see Venus back and HUNGRY for more titles. Congrats on her win in Stanford. now I want to see another win in San Diego!!!

Raisin
Jul 30th, 2002, 02:48 PM
Yeah, Venus 3-peat in San Diego:bounce:

Ntosake
Jul 30th, 2002, 02:54 PM
This is nice thread, thanks TennisPower!

Let's all keep it going. Positive vibes are always a good idea!

Beautiful work, Infiniti, keep 'em coming!

"Topaz"
Jul 31st, 2002, 01:23 AM
You're welcome, Ntosake.

A very determined Venus will be back on the court tomorrow. Let's wish her the best of luck, just in case she needs it. ;)

HAIL-VENUS
Jul 31st, 2002, 01:50 AM
Good Luck Tomorrow and throughout the tournament, Venus!!! Hugs and Kisses!!!:kiss: :kiss: :kiss:

Jovon
Jul 31st, 2002, 03:04 AM
Venus is


SIMPLY THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!! :kiss: :hearts: :) :D :p :cool: :lick: :hearts: :kiss: :bounce: :bounce:

TeeRexx
Jul 31st, 2002, 07:52 AM
Almost time for VENUS to get her swerving serve on!! :)

Raisin
Jul 31st, 2002, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by Jovon
Venus is


SIMPLY THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!! :kiss: :hearts: :) :D :p :cool: :lick: :hearts: :kiss: :bounce: :bounce:

I second that

Williams Rulez
Jul 31st, 2002, 09:47 AM
Lalala... 2 titles in 2 weeks! :D

Jovon
Jul 31st, 2002, 11:53 PM
Best Wishes tonight Venus!!!!!


WIN WIN WIN:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

"Topaz"
Aug 1st, 2002, 03:30 AM
Venus just defeated Husarova 64-61 (2nd round, Acura Classic/02).

Congratulations, Vee!

Berlin_Calling
Aug 1st, 2002, 03:37 AM
Congrats Venus

Chance
Aug 1st, 2002, 07:31 AM
VENUS GOOD LUCK AND DEFEND YOUR TITLE

Raisin
Aug 1st, 2002, 08:13 AM
Congrats Queen Vee and good luck on your next match:bounce:

joe
Aug 1st, 2002, 08:36 AM
A good win indeed. Well done Venus!!!

Williams Rulez
Aug 1st, 2002, 08:49 AM
Keep it going Vee! :D

Ntosake
Aug 1st, 2002, 04:11 PM
Congrats Venus!

It was good to see Venus pull out another win. I hope her and Richard are doing some tweaking with her serve tho'!

Keep the wins coming, Venus, you can do this!

Also I was wondering if anyone has actually seen how Venus is moving (are any of her fans actually there to see it live and sending in any reports?) Just curious.

I'm jumping ahead a bit but I would love to get to the Staples Center this November, anybody going? The USOpen is out for me, but are any of you going to be there either?

Meanwhile...Go Venus, Best Wishes and Positive Vibes still coming your way today!:bounce: :kiss: :hearts: :) :D :angel:

victory1
Aug 1st, 2002, 04:23 PM
Great win last week Venus, now defend your title!!!:bounce:

Pureracket
Aug 1st, 2002, 04:27 PM
Go Venus!!!!!

Shuji Shuriken
Aug 1st, 2002, 04:38 PM
Go Venus...i'm all behind you babe. Take this title and rip your way through the rest of the hardcourt season. This is your time to shine baby...so don't let anyone steal your thunder. I'm a Venus kind of guy 4 eva. Come on Vee. Best of luck today.

Williams Rulez
Aug 2nd, 2002, 07:10 AM
I'm so glad Richard is back... Venus plays so much better when Richard is around... :D

Raisin
Aug 2nd, 2002, 08:22 AM
Great win Venus. Good luck on your next tournament:hearts:

Ntosake
Aug 2nd, 2002, 04:53 PM
Keep the wins coming, Venus!

Looks like our girl is on a roll! Go Venus! Win it all!

GrandSlammed
Aug 2nd, 2002, 11:26 PM
Venus Williams has done it again!!!:bounce:


She defeats Clijsters back2back!! A player "tennis fans" are hailing as Venus' "nemesis"... LOL!!!

KEEP CRAMMIN" IT BACK DOWN THEIR THROATS QUEEN VEE!!
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20020802/capt.1028329403acura_classic_gox106.jpg

Williams Rulez
Aug 3rd, 2002, 02:29 AM
I love her hair do... :)

TeeRexx
Aug 3rd, 2002, 05:19 AM
LOL@GrandSlammed!

VENUS, go and keep kicking ass!!

TeeRexx
Aug 3rd, 2002, 01:05 PM
VENUS do it to Davey today! :)

Ntosake
Aug 3rd, 2002, 01:31 PM
Congratulations Venus! You're fighting like the true champion that you are!

Keep the wins coming!

QueenO
Aug 3rd, 2002, 05:10 PM
Nice win Champ...
Take it to her tonight :bounce: :kiss: :bounce: :kiss: :bounce:

Informative
Aug 4th, 2002, 12:33 AM
Take Davenport down in straight sets Venus! I know you will...

Williams Rulez
Aug 4th, 2002, 02:24 AM
Take it Davenport! :D

GrandSlammed
Aug 4th, 2002, 02:17 PM
EXCUSE ME Williams Rulez!!!! :confused:


Venus took Davenport to the wood shed! 6/2, 6/1.:)



VENUS WILLIAMS applauds fans, who CLEARLY did not want her to win last night. ;)
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20020804/capt.1028435949acura_classic_gox113.jpg

Ntosake
Aug 4th, 2002, 02:35 PM
Congratulations Venus, you're looking good!

Take it all the way! Goooo Champ!!!

Playa
Aug 4th, 2002, 03:12 PM
Venus is kicking their MESSIAH's Butt !!!

GO VEE ! Show the world what you're made of !

:wavey: :bounce: :wavey:

Ntosake
Aug 4th, 2002, 11:26 PM
Simply Awesome!

Congratulations to Miss. Williams!

Keep rising, Venus.:kiss:

Acura Classic Champion 2002

Raisin
Aug 5th, 2002, 09:24 AM
Wow Queen Vee, you made history

3- peat at Acura:bounce:

Williams Rulez
Aug 5th, 2002, 11:15 AM
Well done Venus! You did it again! :D

RAA
Aug 5th, 2002, 01:19 PM
Congrats Venus!! well done yet again.

Raisin
Aug 5th, 2002, 01:37 PM
Venus, have a well deserved break and only come back stronger:D

tennischick
Aug 5th, 2002, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by Williams Rulez
I'm so glad Richard is back... Venus plays so much better when Richard is around... :D

is this true? i truly hadn't noticed. i think Venus plays well regardless. or are you saying that Richard's absence was a factor in her recent spate of losses to Serena? is Serena Oracene's fave and Venus, Richards?

i didn't think it was a much competitive match except for the couple of opening games when it looked as if Dokic might pose a bit of a challenge. but it soon became clear that the match against Capriati had left her tired and she could pose no challenge to Venus. not that a more rested Dokic had any better chance of winning but it may have made the match a tad more interesting and the outcome a tad less predictable.

what got confirmed for me in the match is that Venus plays such a sperb defensive game. it's amost pointless to attack her -- she just gets everything back!

"Topaz"
Aug 6th, 2002, 02:12 AM
Belated congrats to Venus on her 3rd consecutive victory at Acura Classic! I was away for the long weekend.

This win also represents her 2nd in a row this Summer, 6th for the year, 27th career-wise ... Keep the good stats coming, Vee!

Williams Rulez
Aug 6th, 2002, 08:14 AM
tennischick, Venus really plays better when Richard is around, just look at AO and the beginning of the year, when Richard isn't around, Venus played like crap, she had various weird loses, and her matches were much tighter. And looking at Wimbledon and RG, her serve was detriorating, and so were her groundstrokes. With him back, she is doing far better again. I dunno, many have observed that as well... :)

Jovon
Aug 6th, 2002, 11:14 PM
Venus had a great 2 week run!!!!!


Now it is lil sis time!!!!!!


Go Venus and Serena sweep the hardcourt season!!!!!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Williams Rulez
Aug 7th, 2002, 10:53 AM
I like your quote Jovon! :D

Raisin
Aug 7th, 2002, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by Jovon
Venus had a great 2 week run!!!!!


Now it is lil sis time!!!!!!


Go Venus and Serena sweep the hardcourt season!!!!!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Amen:wavey:

servenrichie
Aug 7th, 2002, 01:43 PM
Venus is simply the best!

Amanda
Aug 7th, 2002, 02:52 PM
Venus is still the best...today and always!!!!!

Jovon
Aug 7th, 2002, 11:04 PM
Thanks Williams Rulez and Raisin:wavey:



ROCK ON VENUS AND SERENA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

tennischick
Aug 8th, 2002, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by Williams Rulez
tennischick, Venus really plays better when Richard is around, just look at AO and the beginning of the year, when Richard isn't around, Venus played like crap, she had various weird loses, and her matches were much tighter. And looking at Wimbledon and RG, her serve was detriorating, and so were her groundstrokes. With him back, she is doing far better again. I dunno, many have observed that as well... :)

in this case i hope that Oracene shows up at matches for the rest of the year so that Serena can keep spanking her butt...:p :p

QueenO
Aug 8th, 2002, 01:00 AM
Your just AWESOME Venus....
Keep it up Champ.....

Raisin
Aug 8th, 2002, 08:01 AM
Yeah Venus keep winning those titles and playing great.

Williams Rulez
Aug 8th, 2002, 09:59 AM
No way tennischick... Richard is healthy and he is back... :p

servenrichie
Aug 8th, 2002, 10:49 AM
It is Venus' party for the rest of the year, little sis notwithstanding!

Raisin
Aug 8th, 2002, 12:04 PM
Go Venus:bounce:

tennischick
Aug 8th, 2002, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Williams Rulez
No way tennischick... Richard is healthy and he is back... :p

pffftttt!! and to think he actually passed on his flipping camera-toting genes to her too! :eek: it's gonna be a looooong, hot summer. ;)

Raisin
Aug 8th, 2002, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by tennischick


pffftttt!! and to think he actually passed on his flipping camera-toting genes to her too! :eek: it's gonna be a looooong, hot summer. ;)

LMAO @ flipping camera-toting genes passed to Venus.

Queen Venus, you rock:bounce:

"Topaz"
Aug 8th, 2002, 03:28 PM
Tennischick, you seem to have a little problem with Venus that I didn't know of. When did it develop?

tennischick
Aug 8th, 2002, 03:38 PM
hey Tennispower: it's no biggie. i prefer Serena, that's all. i've never been much of a Venus fan. i don't like the way she makes playing tennis look like an unbearable chore. but this is not news -- i've always said this. i've said before too that i prefer both Serena's game and her warm personality. i can apppreciate Venus the champ and never miss a chance to watch her games, but i have other preferences.

"Topaz"
Aug 8th, 2002, 04:38 PM
Oh yes, I hear you, Tennischick! Venus is always very serious on the court; I think it's all about concentration. Same for Seles and others. Serena, OTOH, lets it out more.

Williams Rulez
Aug 9th, 2002, 02:25 AM
Hehe, so does Cappy, that's why there's so much drama on court when Serena plays Jennifer... lol... :D

BK4ever
Aug 9th, 2002, 03:05 AM
I don't know why Serena always has trouble with Jen...

But its okay, because Big Sis...always waxes that ass...

Keep em coming Vee...U MUST TAKE THE 2002 OPEN CROWN :D

kay
Aug 9th, 2002, 03:18 AM
Venus is a true champ and we should be able to tell if she will win the Open in the first round. If she is walking that walk, she will win.

You know that walk, the one that reminds me of the Ludacris(sp? Im not much of a rap fan) song.....Move, $$$$$$$ get out the way! If Venus is walking that walk, it will be a sure win.

Williams Rulez
Aug 9th, 2002, 09:43 AM
lol, you gotta tell me if Venus is walking that way after you watch Venus play the first round... ;)

Raisin
Aug 9th, 2002, 10:17 AM
Don't worry Williams Rulez, I'm sure Vee will be walking that walk throughout the whole tournament;)

Williams Rulez
Aug 10th, 2002, 07:01 AM
Hehe... sure hope so... :)

It'll be sad if Venus take home a slam this year... :(

Ntosake
Aug 10th, 2002, 03:13 PM
*bump*:) Can't wait for Pilot Pen! Hope Venus has been on the court tweaking that serve!

Williams Rulez
Aug 11th, 2002, 01:57 AM
Yeah, and that forehand needs some serious improvement too... her stroke is so weird... :p

TeeRexx
Aug 11th, 2002, 02:05 AM
It will be good to see VENUS back in action next week at the Pilot Pen event.

Williams Rulez
Aug 11th, 2002, 02:27 AM
No no... 2 more weeks... next week Serena is playing in Montreal

Informative
Aug 11th, 2002, 08:39 AM
Venus is elegant, graceful, gracious, gorgeous, sweet, mesmerizing, funny, witty, smart, regal and a GREAT champion/warrior. Continue to show the world what true majesty really is and what mastery of the game really means.

"I like 'em tall. I like 'em proud. And when they walk, you know they draw a crowd"
--James Brown "Mother Popcorn"

MrV
Aug 11th, 2002, 11:58 AM
VENUS IS AWESOME :kiss: :hearts:

:bounce: :bounce:

QueenO
Aug 11th, 2002, 04:22 PM
Hey UK :wavey:

:kiss: :) :kiss:

Jovon
Aug 11th, 2002, 11:01 PM
Queen Vee will return to shine again at Pilot Pen !!!!!


......then we have the WILLIAMS OPEN original known as the US OPEN!

I can't wait!!!!!!!!!!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Hulet
Aug 11th, 2002, 11:14 PM
I am going through a tough Venus withdrawal already. How I wish she would play next week! Come back with your winning ways, Venus.:)

Raisin
Aug 12th, 2002, 09:09 AM
eta psi, what withdrawal are you talking about?

BTW go Queen Vee:bounce:

Hulet
Aug 12th, 2002, 11:22 AM
Raisin, I am just saying that I miss Venus already. She should have entered the CO, IMO.

Williams Rulez
Aug 12th, 2002, 11:57 AM
She won't Serena is playing there... :p

Raisin
Aug 12th, 2002, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by eta psi
Raisin, I am just saying that I miss Venus already. She should have entered the CO, IMO.

O.k. :wavey: I was just a bit scared that she'd retire from next week's tournament.

MrV
Aug 12th, 2002, 02:15 PM
Hey Queen O :kiss: :hearts: :kiss:


CONTINUE YOUR WINNING STREAK VEE :wavey:

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Williams Rulez
Aug 13th, 2002, 07:13 AM
All Venus! All the time! ;) :D

Raisin
Aug 13th, 2002, 08:16 AM
Go Venus just do what you know best : WINNING:bounce:

"Topaz"
Aug 14th, 2002, 01:24 AM
With Serena's withdrawal from Montreal, the dynamics around the #1 spot has changed somewhat. This Monday, the rankings will show:

Vee - 5178
Ree - 5323

Vee is defending 407 points at New Haven, and Ree, nada. You can anticipate where I'm going. If Vee wins next week and wins US Open, we'll most likely have a new #1 !!! :D :D

Remember what they defend at US Open:
Vee 956
Ree 818

Pretty close!

Amanda
Aug 14th, 2002, 06:42 AM
Venus....Back on top where she belongs!!!!

They thought she was finished....she's just getting started!!!!

Raisin
Aug 14th, 2002, 07:53 AM
Come on Venus. You're the Queen of the WTA:hearts:

Williams Rulez
Aug 14th, 2002, 09:48 AM
Let's go Venus, you've got a shot at the number 1 ranking...

Just win at New Haven, Flushing Meadows and Bahia! :D

Bероника
Aug 14th, 2002, 06:46 PM
Go Venus!!!!

QueenO
Aug 14th, 2002, 08:06 PM
It's yours for the taking Queen....

tennis4life
Aug 15th, 2002, 04:21 AM
Can we change the name of this thread? I am not intending to be negative, I love Venus, but this "Simply Venus" business just will not do. Maybe a thread title similarly will do for some other players, but there is nothing simple/y about Venus.

I do not know if we can rename it but if we can, how about "Venus Rising, Heavenly Venus or Cosmic Venus" Okay so I do not know what to name it, but I am not down with this because it's been done and it doesnt reflect the complexity that is Venus, IMHO.

t4l

servenrichie
Aug 15th, 2002, 06:57 AM
How i miss Vee!

servenrichie
Aug 15th, 2002, 06:58 AM
I am with you there tennis4life. Venus is special and this title will not do.

Williams Rulez
Aug 15th, 2002, 08:21 AM
Hmmm, I think the title is apt, there is not one word that will sum up Venus cause she is such a complex being, hence, the word 'Venus' is used as an adjective here, Simply Venus. Like Simply 'Amazing' or something.

Raisin
Aug 15th, 2002, 08:55 AM
Great idea Tennis4life, is it possible for the author to please change the title?

Go Queen Venus, you're simply the best:bounce:

servenrichie
Aug 15th, 2002, 01:23 PM
The problem i have with the title is this, such a title has been existing longer for Martina and well there is nothing to compare there as far as the quenn is concerned. Call it "Venus" or "fabulous Venus" or any other thing, but remove the 'simply' there, it makes it cheap

moon
Aug 15th, 2002, 09:21 PM
you're right about that servenrichie. when it comes to comparing Venus and that other tennis player. Venus wins, no contest. :)

btw--we get Great coverage for Pilot Pen next week! It'll be great to see Vee on tv 2 or 3 days in a row. :D

Williams Rulez
Aug 16th, 2002, 10:47 AM
I dunno, go PM the author then! :D

servenrichie
Aug 16th, 2002, 11:17 AM
did that already, but have not heard anything.
Though it looks like TP has not been around now for sometime :D
:wavey: :wavey:

"Topaz"
Aug 17th, 2002, 03:32 AM
Thank you, guys, for your concern about the title. I really appreciate the depth of your care and love for Queen Vee; she deserves all her fans. This thread is just a container for everything good and amazing about Venus. For now, let's keep it simply the Venus way, that is, focused, dedicated, unwavering, yet open to new ideas and ready to unlearn regressing techniques and master triumphant styles.

Williams Rulez
Aug 17th, 2002, 09:08 AM
Hmmm, I really hope Venus wins the US Open, I'd be very heartbroken if she didn't win a slam this year... :(

TeeRexx
Aug 17th, 2002, 01:46 PM
I can't wait until VENUS wins the Pilot Pen tourney and her SEVENTH title of the year as well!!

QueenO
Aug 17th, 2002, 04:55 PM
I can't wait as well....
:)

Williams Rulez
Aug 18th, 2002, 03:18 AM
Venus has never lost at New Haven, 3 straight titles since she played there in 1998.

TeeRexx
Aug 18th, 2002, 08:33 AM
Go VENUS! Win Pilot Pen and then the Open.

MrV
Aug 18th, 2002, 10:05 AM
Keep your unbeaten streak Vee :)

Hi Oka :kiss:

Williams Rulez
Aug 18th, 2002, 02:11 PM
New Haven is like Venus' playground... ;)

Playa
Aug 18th, 2002, 05:44 PM
C'mon vee ! win the pilot pen tourny !

"Topaz"
Aug 18th, 2002, 09:32 PM
"Pilot Pen", the last prep work before the US Open, is upon us.

It's unfortunate that all the players I want Venus to test against are all piled up on the second half of the draw: Hingis, Davenport, Justine, Amelie. It's really too bad she'll get to play only one of them (if at all)! :(

Oh well! Take the title anyway, Vee!

tennischick
Aug 18th, 2002, 09:34 PM
this thread is still here? :p :p :p

"Topaz"
Aug 18th, 2002, 09:41 PM
Oh yes, tennischick! :kiss: :kiss:

tennischick
Aug 18th, 2002, 09:46 PM
whatever...:p :p Serena will be back soon...to take her USO trophy. and i will be watching her in person too :eek: i hope Venus has been taking notes...:o :o :o

Okasu
Aug 18th, 2002, 10:07 PM
Hey.... UK
I'm gone for good :sad: So I''l be using Okasu from now on.

Go Venus :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Williams Rulez
Aug 19th, 2002, 11:40 AM
Hi, who are you Okasu? :p

Jovon
Aug 20th, 2002, 12:53 AM
I cant wait to see Venus on TV kickin' butt as usual!!!!!


GO VENUS WIN PILOT PEN!!!!!!!!!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Raisin
Aug 20th, 2002, 08:48 AM
Go Venus:bounce:

Ntosake
Aug 20th, 2002, 03:10 PM
Awww, you guys...:kiss:

"A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet..." would it not? ( so who cares what we call this thread--it can still be fun!) and since when did they start giving out points around here for originality:p

Another old guy once said "there is nothing new under the sun..." so sometimes you just duplicate stuff, make it your own, make it work for your purposes, so no harm in that.

Anyway, I agree with what TP said. He simply duplicated an already good idea. It's just simply talking about Venus. If he decides to change it to any other title, I'd be cool with that too.

Love to all the Venus Fans in the house! and


Goooooo Venus, win the Pilot Pen!!!

Hulet
Aug 20th, 2002, 03:44 PM
I came across this little pic with venus (and her sweet smile) on it from New Haven Advocate and didn't know where to post it. I hope posting it here would be okay:
http://www.newmassmedia.com/cgi-bin/showimage.cgi?id=6558&nocache=1029857424

And here is the tiny article that runs along with it:

Tennis pro Venus Williams served up a whammy. She didn't write in, but Scoop's obtained proof that she ate at Bentara Malaysian Restaurant (76 Orange St., New Haven, 562-2511) last year, enjoying Malaysian cuisine for the first time ever. It was part of the Mayor's Passport to Downtown Dining. Pilot Pen tennis tournament players are encouraged to eat at one of 15 downtown eateries during their stay. So if you're out and about during the month of August, and you happen upon, say, Lindsay Davenport at Istanbul (245 Crown St., New Haven, 787-3881), you know what to do.


GO venus! Follow the same route as last year: eat your fill, then win the trophy :)

Ntosake
Aug 21st, 2002, 02:20 AM
Nice picture, eta psi, and yes, Venus does have a sweet smile.

Congratulations go out to Venus tonight because, like a true champion, she hung tough and pulled through to win!

Raisin
Aug 21st, 2002, 08:01 AM
Congrats for your win Queen Vee:bounce:

Williams Rulez
Aug 21st, 2002, 09:26 AM
Welld one Vee! I love your new outfit! :hearts:

Jovon
Aug 22nd, 2002, 12:55 AM
It is all most time for another Williams final countdown!!!!!:p



Go Venus win PP!!!!!:bounce:

Okasu
Aug 22nd, 2002, 02:11 AM
Nice pic of Venus...:bounce: :bounce:

tennis4life
Aug 22nd, 2002, 02:17 AM
Did Venus win? Man, I have not seen any pictures of her! I simply loved her 2001 Acura Dress, especially the earring, they were fun!

t4l

tennis4life
Aug 22nd, 2002, 02:18 AM
FABULOSA!!!!!

tl

goodolvs
Aug 22nd, 2002, 03:42 AM
i love vee!

Raisin
Aug 22nd, 2002, 08:07 AM
Go Venus

Williams Rulez
Aug 22nd, 2002, 10:06 AM
Go Venus... your draw maybe a little tough, but you can do it! :D

Hulet
Aug 22nd, 2002, 11:07 AM
From the New Haven Register (venus on serena):

Pilot Pen Notes
Sean O'Rourke, Sean Barker and Dan Nowak August 22, 2002

Family fun
Serena Williams wasn't there to defend herself, but it didn't stop sister Venus Williams from poking fun at her baby sister Tuesday night.

Venus was asked about the qualities that helped Serena get to the top of the tennis world, and for whatever reason, it made her laugh.

"She hates to lose, No. 1," said Venus after winning her second-round match. "When we were little, she'd do anything to win. I don't want to get into that ... but ... we would let her win. If we had a talent competition, like a singing contest, she would sing the same song every time. Me and my other sisters would all sing a song, and if (Serena) didn't win, she would cry.

"So we would fix it so she would win. She's always been like that."

And the song Serena always sang was? "'Saving All My Love,'" by Whitney Houston. "And it sounded pretty bad."

And that reminded her of another story, regarding their play-acting in the back yard when they were kids.

"(Serena) always had to be the princess," said Venus, almost inaudibly through her laughter. "Lyn would be the wizard and I would be the warrior. But Serena always had to be the princess."

Hulet
Aug 22nd, 2002, 11:08 AM
Go you warrior you - win Pilot Pen and USO :D

"Topaz"
Aug 22nd, 2002, 10:02 PM
"(Serena) always had to be the princess," said Venus
Well, Vee, just be the Queen!

Congrats on your 62-61 win over Granville!
Now, take this title and proceed to the US Open with confidence.

Hulet
Aug 23rd, 2002, 10:50 PM
Go Venus! Win tonight too and please make it easy for your fans!http://www.ctnow.com/media/photo/2002-08/4326442.jpg

Ntosake
Aug 23rd, 2002, 10:51 PM
Keep the wins coming, Vee!
Best Wishes to you in tonight's semi!

GrandSlammed
Aug 23rd, 2002, 11:31 PM
Pleeeeeease CRUSH Hantuchova tonight Venus!!!

Joseosu19
Aug 24th, 2002, 12:49 AM
Congrats to Venus on making it to the New Haven final:)

junkartist
Aug 24th, 2002, 12:51 AM
Venus looks gooooood!!! Her play is different..BETTER!!:eek: :eek: GOOOO VENUS!!!

Hulet
Aug 24th, 2002, 01:06 AM
Great win, Venus. Now, win tomorrow too.
Is anybody else worried about tomorrows match too? LD would be looking for a big revenge for that san diego final. Hopefully, Venus will be focused and play her dominating game.

QueenO
Aug 24th, 2002, 01:31 AM
She did look good. I like the hair...

HAIL-VENUS
Aug 24th, 2002, 01:58 AM
Yeah, I'm a bit worried because Lindsay's just getting better and better. I hope it's gonna be a great match, with Venus winning the title, ofcourse. It seems that Lindsay hasn't skipped a beat. She's playing some great tennis and winning her matches with relative ease. But, so is Venus. That's why tomorrow's match up is gonna be interesting.

DO YOUR THANG VENUS WARRIOR- GODDESS-AND-EBONE-STARR WILLIAMS

You're the Greatest :kiss: :kiss::wavey:

Jovon
Aug 24th, 2002, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by eta psi
Great win, Venus. Now, win tomorrow too.
Is anybody else worried about tomorrows match too? LD would be looking for a big revenge for that san diego final. Hopefully, Venus will be focused and play her dominating game.

I am not too worried, eta psi, Venus looked really well tonight against Dani. Most of the match her serve was on and that is the key for Venus. She will beat anyone win that serve is on. I think Venus will be focused to win her fourth title in a row here.

COME ON VENUS MOVE LINDSAY ALL OVER THE COURT!!!!!!

Williams Rulez
Aug 24th, 2002, 03:02 AM
Impressive wins by Venus... I think she's gonna win this title quite easily... :D

Informative
Aug 24th, 2002, 04:02 AM
Venus will crush Lindsay tomorrow in 2 sets 6-3, 6-1

Hulet
Aug 24th, 2002, 12:03 PM
From the Hartford courant:

PILOT PEN TENNIS TOURNAMENT

It's Pure Venus
Seeks Fourth Straight Title

August 24, 2002
By ROBERTO GONZALEZ, Courant Staff Writer

NEW HAVEN -- There is no question Daniela Hantuchova is a rising star, but Friday she ran into Venus.

And Venus Williams easily took care of Hantuchova, winning 6-3, 6-3 to advance to final of the Pilot Pen before 9,709 - the second largest crowd in tournament history.

Williams, the top seed, will seek her fourth consecutive Pilot Pen title today when she faces second-seeded Lindsay Davenport for the second consecutive year in the championship match.

Davenport advanced with a 6-2, 6-2 victory over Anastasia Myskina.

Williams has won 15 consecutive matches and has lost only one set at the Pilot Pen since 1999.

"I would love to make it 16, but nothing is for granted," Williams said. "I'm sure Lindsay would like to put that one mark on the losing side of the record."

Williams is 3-0 against Hantuchova, who last played Williams in the third round of the Australian Open, losing in three sets.

The difference Friday was huge, Hantuchova said.

"I think she has improved a lot," Hantuchova said. "Especially tactically. I think she is much better prepared than she was before."

Hantuchova had trouble handling Williams' serve, which reached 116 mph. She had one fault that clocked at 120 mph.

"Her serve was unbelievable," Hantuchova said. "There was not much I could I could've done about that. But still I gave my best and I think I got a lot of experience from this match."

About two hours before the match, Williams was spotted practicing her serve on Stadium Court under the watchful eye of her father Richard. It was nothing unusual, she said, but it helped.

"I've been working on my toss," Williams said. "That's really been throwing me off, I guess my whole life. If I'm not hitting the ball in the right spot, the ball doesn't go in. This whole tournament week has been a lot of great tosses. I think that helped me out today."

It wasn't all about power, however. Mixed in with 100 mph-plus serves were several softer ones at key moments. Hantuchova could never get her rhythm.

"Sometimes it's nice to mix it up," Williams said. "I do like to force the issue, but sometimes I do also like to mix it up."

Hantuchova played a sloppy game in the eighth game of the first set, double faulting on game point to give Williams a 5-3 lead. Williams wasted little time taking advantage of the break, cracking a 113-mph service winner to go up 30-0 on her way to winning the first set.

Hantuchova did show flashes of her potential. She hit a beautiful crosscourt dropshot that kissed the line for a 30-0 lead while serving in the first game of the second set. She tried another cutesy dropshot at 40-30, but Williams made her pay, pouncing and pounding a forehand winner.

Down 4-2, Hantuchova showed some mental toughness. Serving at 40-15, umpire Furgis Murphy overruled the linesman on a Williams forehand return. After arguing, Hantuchova came back with a nifty volley winner to win the game, pumping her fist as the ball dropped for a winner.

"That one was clearly out," Hantuchova said. "I was right there and I saw it. I was very surprised he overruled it. But I still won the next point and won the game, so it was all right."

Williams easily won her service game, then broke Hantuchova with a powerful backhand winner at match point.

"I didn't serve as well as I did all week," Hantuchova said. "And I don't think I played my best, but I still hit some pretty good shots and I think it was good tennis. Hopefully next time it's going to finish differently."

Williams had kind words. In a way, she sees a little of herself in Hantuchova, 19.

"I"ve been where she is now, playing against top players and playing great matches and also losing some," Williams said. "I think it's all up to her how good she does, basically."

Self-motivation has never been a problem for Williams.

"Topaz"
Aug 24th, 2002, 02:47 PM
Thanks for the article, Eta psi.

Ntosake
Aug 24th, 2002, 04:44 PM
Goooo Venus, and defend your title!

Best Wishes!!!

GogoGirl
Aug 24th, 2002, 05:00 PM
"CONGRATULATIONS VENUS - ON REACHING YOUR 4TH STRAIGHT PILOT PEN FINAL" "YOU JUST GO GIRL - ON & ON & ONNNNNNNN" "BEAR DOWN, HANG TOUGH AND BEAT LINDSAY - VENUS" "YOU CAN DO IT"






http://www.ctnow.com/sports/hc-pennight0824.artaug24.story?coll=hc%2Dheadlines%2D sports
SPORTS

PILOT PEN TENNIS TOURNAMENTIt's Pure Venus Seeks Fourth Straight TitleAugust 24, 2002 By ROBERTO GONZALEZ, Courant Staff Writer NEW HAVEN

There is no question Daniela Hantuchova is a rising star, but Friday she ran into Venus. And Venus Williams easily took care of Hantuchova, winning 6-3, 6-3 to advance to the final of the Pilot Pen before 9,709 - the second-largest crowd in tournament history.

Williams, the top seed, will seek her fourth consecutive Pilot Pen title today when she faces second-seeded Lindsay Davenport for the second consecutive year in the championship match.

Davenport advanced with a 6-2, 6-2 victory over Anastasia Myskina.Williams has won 15 consecutive matches and has lost only one set at the Pilot Pen since 1999.

"I would love to make it 16, but nothing is for granted," Williams said. "I'm sure Lindsay would like to put that one mark on the losing side of the record."

Williams is 3-0 against Hantuchova, who last played Williams in the third round of the Australian Open, losing in three sets.The difference Friday was huge, Hantuchova said."I think she has improved a lot," Hantuchova said. "Especially tactically. I think she is much better prepared than she was before."

Hantuchova had trouble handling Williams' serve, which reached 116 mph. She had one fault that clocked at 120 mph."Her serve was unbelievable," Hantuchova said. "There was not much I could've done about that. But still I gave my best and I think I got a lot of experience from this match."

About two hours before the match, Williams was spotted practicing her serve on Stadium Court under the watchful eye of her father Richard. It was nothing unusual, she said, but it helped."I've been working on my toss," Williams said. "That's really been throwing me off, I guess my whole life. If I'm not hitting the ball in the right spot, the ball doesn't go in. This whole tournament week has been a lot of great tosses. I think that helped me out today."

It wasn't all about power, however. Mixed in with 100 mph-plus serves were several softer ones at key moments. Hantuchova could never get her rhythm."Sometimes it's nice to mix it up," Williams said. "I do like to force the issue, but sometimes I do also like to mix it up."

Hantuchova played a sloppy game in the eighth game of the first set, double faulting on game point to give Williams a 5-3 lead. Williams wasted little time taking advantage of the break, cracking a 113-mph service winner to go up 30-0 on her way to winning the first set.Hantuchova did show flashes of her potential. She hit a beautiful crosscourt dropshot that kissed the line for a 30-0 lead while serving in the first game of the second set. She tried another dropshot at 40-30, but Williams made her pay, pouncing and pounding a forehand winner.

Down 4-2, Hantuchova showed some mental toughness. Serving at 40-15, umpire Furgis Murphy overruled the linesman on a Williams forehand return. After arguing, Hantuchova came back with a nifty volley winner to win the game, pumping her fist as the ball dropped for a winner."That one was clearly out," Hantuchova said. "I was right there and I saw it. I was very surprised he overruled it. But I still won the next point and won the game, so it was all right."

Williams easily won her service game, then broke Hantuchova with a powerful backhand winner at match point."I didn't serve as well as I did all week," Hantuchova said. "And I don't think I played my best, but I still hit some pretty good shots and I think it was good tennis. Hopefully next time it's going to finish differently."

Williams said she sees a little of herself in Hantuchova, 19. "I've been where she is now, playing against top players and playing great matches and also losing some,"

Williams said. "I think it's all up to her how good she does, basically."

"Topaz"
Aug 24th, 2002, 06:55 PM
Williams has won 15 consecutive matches and has lost only one set at the Pilot Pen since 1999. "I would love to make it 16, but nothing is for granted," Williams said.And you did make it 16, with a bagel to go (75-60)! Bravo!

Kudos to Davenport for a strong 1st set which could have gone her way, if Venus's defensive skills weren't so sharp and outstanding.

Legends
Aug 24th, 2002, 07:00 PM
:hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

VENUS

Okasu
Aug 24th, 2002, 07:34 PM
Way to go Venus :) :) :) :) :)

Ntosake
Aug 24th, 2002, 08:28 PM
Our Girl did it, and I'm still grinning from ear to ear.

I am so very proud of the way she digs deep and triumps!

*sigh* That'll do for now, Venus. See ya at the Open!

Ntosake
Aug 25th, 2002, 01:46 AM
Still grinning....

and looking forward to this week. Keep the wins coming, Venus!

Hulet
Aug 25th, 2002, 01:49 AM
congrats Venus. Now, win the USO. :D

Hulet
Aug 25th, 2002, 01:54 AM
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20020824/capt.1030220825pilot_pen_tennis_ppn106.jpg

Hulet
Aug 25th, 2002, 01:55 AM
...and another one....
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20020823/capt.1030157119pilot_pen_tennis_ppn114.jpg

Williams Rulez
Aug 25th, 2002, 02:49 AM
Venus is on a row... 13 match winning streak, 7 finals in a row, 3 titles in a row... I think she'll do really well at the US Open... (champion)

Hulet
Aug 25th, 2002, 10:43 AM
okay ... found this article about richard from The Hatford Courant:
Jeff Jacobs

Lindsay, It's Richard
August 25, 2002

NEW HAVEN - He has been hailed as the Robert Young of the ghetto and reviled for having a mouth bigger than the competitive gap between his daughters and the rest of women's tennis.

He has raised two champions while raising, oh, 2 billion eyebrows. Venus and Serena Williams have been called bright, beautiful, powerful, polite and grounded. The man who nurtured them has been called nuttier than the Planters mascot.

Over the years, Richard Williams has called people too many names and been called so many more. Never before Saturday at the Connecticut Tennis Center, however, had he been called Lindsay Davenport's coach.

"Anybody can be beaten. Muhammad Ali got beat," Richard said after Venus put another Pilot Pen trophy on the Williams' mantel of invincibility. "Yes, my girls can be beat.

"If Venus wasn't so mentally strong, she would have lost that match easy today. Venus did not play well. In my opinion, Venus' left knee was hurting and I don't think Lindsay picked up on it. Lindsay had a great, great, great game plan for Venus. But I don't think her groundstrokes are what I'd have had her do if I was working with her."

Has Richard suddenly decided to lock step with the rest of the tennis world? Is he so bored with his daughters' dominance that he has decided to aid and abet the downtrodden? Is he using his newly anointed position as Nostradamus Of The Hardcourt - hey, he did predict years ago Venus and Serena would be Nos. 1 and 2 in the world - to visualize his daughters' destruction?

With Richard nothing is certain. He always seems one syllable away from genius. He always seems one syllable away from insanity. So who knows what voices drove him to show such intense interest in sharing his game plan on how Davenport could defeat Venus at the U.S. Open final in two weeks.

"I would say if Monica [Seles] has a real good Open, she's a danger," Richard said. "Lindsay has a chance, but she needs to change a few things. She better not come out hitting that ball hard. Venus and Serena are so fast, they can get to the ball. When they get it back, they're not going to bloop it. They're going to blast it. Lindsay can't get to the other side in time."

Richard, in a pique, once called Romanian Irina Spirlea a "a big, ugly, tall, white turkey," and, in turn, was labeled a big, ugly, tall, black turkey. Richard seems a little more careful these days. After his daughter dusted Davenport 7-5, 6-0 he wasn't saying Lindsay's coach, Peter Van't Hof, is Peter Can't Coach. He was only saying father knows best.

"If I were Lindsay, I would have raised the ball a little bit more and waited for the short ball and then nailed Venus," Richard said. "She probably would have won the match if she did. Lindsay can't stand behind that baseline and expect to beat Venus. It's impossible."

Richard calls Venus mentally tougher than any player in the world and he is right on that count.

"You could see it today," Richard said. "Venus should have lost that first set. Lindsay fell apart, because Venus buffaloed her way through there. If I had been Lindsay I would have regrouped. You could see the look on her face. There's no need to get discouraged because she lost 6-0. That don't mean nothing."

The result of Venus' tenacity was her fourth Pilot Pen title in a row and fifth successive victory over Davenport.

"This is Venus' house," Richard said.

Ah, but it's Richard's world.

"I can't go noplace," he said. "I can't even go to the restroom. You've got Venus, Serena, Andre Agassi and the Russian girl [Anna Kournikova]. Other than that, I am it on the tour. I am it. I was in Paris and according to their statistics, I had the eighth or ninth most recognizable face in the world."

That recognizable face could be seen on CBS, talking on a cellphone at courtside during key points in the first set.

"I had a couple of major deals I need to close off," Richard said.

Hey, maybe he is going to make good on his bizarre promise to buy Rockefeller Center for $3.9 billion. Maybe he's going to go into business with Dionne Warwick in a 1-900 crystal-ball service.

"Everybody wants to listen to somebody who can predict the truth," he said. "I'd like to be in the business she's in. Who's going to win the U.S. Open? Then I can run to the bookies and win a lot of money."

And if I were a betting man ...

"Bet a Williams," he said. "Unbelievable odds."

He hints Venus may have the edge with her mental toughness and he says Serena should stop fretting over missed shots. He says neither will be in the game in four or five years. But those words might only be a prod. Serena has won the last two meetings at Roland Garros and Wimbledon and with Richard, well, you never know his intentions.

"I am a ghetto person. I love the ghetto. I have a ghetto heart. I have a ghetto mind," Richard said. "But you see some guy come out of the ghetto who doesn't know anything about tennis. The way Venus and Serena played when they first came up, lose here, lose there, I'd probably have felt the same way about me. They didn't realize how hard the girls hit the ball and how few tournaments they had played and how they could change it all by missing a little less."

He grew up in Compton, Calif., and he says if an entire neighborhood helped raise a child, like in the old days, the world would be a better, more respectful place. He says he raised his kids that way. And guess what, it worked.

"If you look at the last 50 years that's where your champions came from. Larry Bird didn't come from Beverly Hills. Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson ... everybody keeps looking for a champion from the good place. Where they have the best training, those parents don't want their kids to be tennis players. They want them to be doctors, attorneys, senators, governors, president."

And with that, Richard said he was going to Harlem to look for some fried fish.

He was satisfied he had reeled in enough listeners in Connecticut.

Hulet
Aug 25th, 2002, 10:50 AM
...and a similar one from The New Haven Register....(but I like this one better than the above one)....

Father knows, shows us best
Dave Solomon August 25, 2002

NEW HAVEN — At first, we thought him an old man running his mouth off.

We were incredulous to his words and not the message; we were mesmerized by his style and missed the substance.
Richard Williams made us laugh instead of making us think — and we couldn't have been more wrong.

As we've watched his baby tennis prodigies Venus and Serena grow up to beat everyone in sight, he's become nothing short of a prophet. As we've watched Venus and Serena conduct themselves with charm and grace and dignity wherever they go, we've come to admire the eccentric brilliance of Richard Williams.

By the time Venus Williams was shaking hands with Lindsay Davenport at the conclusion of Saturday's Pilot Pen Tennis final, Richard Williams was gone from his box seat, heading for the van and out of town.

His bombast intact, Williams stopped long enough to leave us laughing. And thinking. And appreciating the gift he has given tennis.

The Daughters Williams make him look like a genius with their hard work, mental toughness and excellence on the tennis court, but it is Richard Williams who has orchestrated one of the most astonishing sports stories of any generation.

Without a tennis background, he not only has given the sport the two greatest women's players in the world, but he has given the sport soul.

"I'm one of those guys who's proud to be from the ghetto," Williams said. "I love the ghetto. I have a ghetto mind, a ghetto heart. If you look back at the ghetto for Please see Willliams, Page C13

the last 50 years, it's where champions come from. Larry Bird didn't come from Beverly Hills. Magic Johnson didn't come from there. Sure, Michael Jordan was out of North Carolina, but he wasn't in the best of North Carolina. Muhammad Ali. Mike Tyson. Chris Evert was a champion, and she didn't come from no more than a ghetto, like I did.

"Everyone keeps looking for a champion from a good place. But the good places, where they have all the best training, those parents don't want their kids to be tennis players. They want their kids to be doctors, attorneys, senators, statesmen, governors, presidents. They have the right idea. I wish I had the right idea."

I have no doubt the remarkably thoughtful, poised and well-spoken Venus and Serena Williams could have grown up to be worthy representatives in any of the professions he mentions. I use the word remarkable not because of where they come from, but because of how they carry themselves as compared with the majority of superstars from all sports.

"It's a great human interest story," said Butch Buchholz, tournament chairman of the Pilot Pen.

"They're people who have come from the roughest part of L.A. He (Richard Williams) was a parks director there and ended up having the No. 1 and 2 players in the world. Unbelievable. And the other thing is, they're nice people, too. Besides being great tennis players, they're really nice people. The parents have to be congratulated."

That's the best work of Richard Williams, by far. Not only did he build champions in the most unconventional ways, he and his wife Oracene produced two wonderful role models.

And naturally, Richard Williams has a theory for that.

Has there ever been a question asked that Williams didn't have a theory about, oddball or otherwise?

In short, yes, there's an underlying explanation that Richard Williams is more than happy to share.

"They had no other choice (but to be good people)," Williams said. "See, I was born in '42 ... I'm 60 years old. So when I was born, that's the way I was raised. I was raised that no matter whether you're white, black ... everyone in my neighborhood raised everyone. You couldn't walk down the street and not have a white person say, 'I'm going to kick your ass and tell your mom (if you were doing something wrong).' The black people would do the same thing. So you had no other choice but to be respectable — to everyone.

"That same training was taught to my kids. That's why they have so much respect for every race, no matter who it is or what they're saying. And I think if we could ever get back to that in America, where a whole neighborhood is raising a child, we would produce better teachers, better attorneys, better everything."

And where does Williams think his daughters will be in the tennis rankings five years from now?

"They'll be gone," he promised. "They'll be gone from tennis. We're going to give it back to the good neighborhoods."

With that, Richard Williams was gone, leaving his audience laughing, maybe gasping. Certainly thinking.

express
Aug 25th, 2002, 12:43 PM
No Longer Outsiders, Williams Sisters Are Still Different

By SELENA ROBERTS

The invitation-only tennis society no longer stares at Venus and Serena Williams as if they were two gate-crashers who just swiped through the icing of the petit fours.

Over the past five years, Venus and Serena have taken over the establishment and made it their own with a bold style and haymaker swings never before witnessed in the sport. As they have become less of a curiosity and more of a fixture on the scene, it is easy to forget how Venus and Serena would be folk-tale characters if not for their flesh and bone, how the passage of two African-American sisters from the inner city to worldwide fame would be a fantasy if it weren't so real.

It is easy to get lost in the victories that have left Serena No. 1 and Venus No. 2 and forget their journey along the way to winning 7 of the last 11 majors. Venus has four and Serena has three as they arrive at the United States Open this week.

"I can compare it to if Tiger Woods had a brother who was No. 2 in golf," said Mary Carillo, a former player who is a CBS analyst. "That is basically what Venus and Serena have done. It's one of those remarkable stories. It's so improbable that it almost seems impossible."

But despite the Woodslike social impact the sisters have made as minority success stories and the similar backgrounds the athletes share as products of public parks, despite the sisters' unmatched dominance in their sport and their charismatic star quality, Venus and Serena are not afforded the same reverence from their peers, total embrace from fans or margin for human error that Tiger Woods has enjoyed.

He can curse on the golf course, duck uncomfortable issues, receive a reported $60 million a year to pitch corporate products and withdraw from events with little backlash. It is not the same for Venus and Serena. While the sisters have disarmed many of their critics by maturing into gracious champions, they are still scrutinized on a harsh level by jealous peers and by fans who seem to resent two powerful black women leading change.

While Venus and Serena are sports icons, transcending tennis as cover subjects on magazines like Time, according to Forbes's Celebrity 100 list for 2002, they are also well behind the male stars in pay, a disparity of a different sort.

"I live comfortably; I'm grateful and I'm not a greedy person," Venus Williams said in an interview last week. "Nowadays, in this market, you have to be an athlete who is superspecial, and you have to win all the time.

"But the thing is, women are historically paid less than men. That's changing, but that's a factor that plays into it."

According to the Forbes list, Venus's annual income is $11 million, while Serena's is $8 million. Three years ago, Venus signed a $40 million deal with Reebok for five years, and Serena could approach those figures with a coming shoe deal, with suitors like Nike vying to sign her away from Puma.

As well as Venus and Serena have done — and they are the first to appreciate it — their income is still in the same bracket as that of players like Martina Hingis and Jennifer Capriati. In contrast, Andre Agassi's income is listed at $18.5 million. Ten years ago, Jim Courier, the No. 1 player, had an income reported at $9 million a year.

"Perceptions about men and women are different," said Bob Williams, president of Burns Sports and Celebrities. "But there is a great potential for Venus and Serena to create change and close that gap in how women athletes are viewed.

"When the physical skills are close to a man's skills, that's when you'll see other women's sports take off like women's tennis has. In basketball, it's too big of a difference. But Venus and Serena play above the rim in their own way. When you see them, there doesn't seem like a lot of difference between how they play and the men."

While Venus and Serena have a mannerly approach to tennis — they refrain from expletives and do not bicker with umpires — their muscle is unwelcome to some fans.

Last month, a Wimbledon cabdriver underscored one slice of public opinion when he told a carful of reporters that he believed the strength of Venus and Serena was "unnatural" and "unfair." He said he longed for the days when women played a "feminine" game.

Boring: that is how players like Justine Henin have labeled the matchups between Venus and Serena. Phony: that's how Jennifer Capriati views Venus and Serena's rise to No. 1 and No. 2. Fixed: that's how Amélie Mauresmo sees the showdowns between the sisters.

Jelena Dokic, ranked No. 4, said, "I think tennis, for me, was more exciting 5 or 10 years ago than it is right now."

Martina Navratilova disagrees. Like many, she watched Serena take Wimbledon from Venus in a match of top quality and unprecedented might. "I think people need to check where they are coming from with those kinds of comments," she said. "These are two good athletes going at it, and I think they are great for the game."

Where is the negativity coming from? Tennis officials have privately suggested theories over the past few months: the culture of the teenage-based sport is innately immature (everyone is picked apart); the image of two strong-willed black women is still viewed as a threat to parts of society (code for racism).

Above it all, Venus and Serena have never complained, never accused.

"You have to be satisfied with you and who you are," Serena said after her Wimbledon title. "Venus and I have learned that we're satisfied and we're happy with us. We don't have any problem with anyone because you have to be happy with the person inside. When you're a little bitter and a little angry, then you're going to become resentful. Instead of becoming resentful, you should go do something about it."

Venus and Serena took their image into their own hands after one important turning point 18 months ago in Indian Wells, Calif. Venus pulled out of a match with Serena four minutes before their semifinal.

The timing was terrible for obvious and not-so-obvious reasons: that same week, a supermarket tabloid reported that their father, Richard Williams, had fixed their semifinal match at Wimbledon a year earlier.

Unable to dissociate themselves from their controversial father until recently, the family took a painful hit in Indian Wells. As Venus and her father made their way down the steps to watch Serena play Kim Clijsters in the final, a cascade of boos drenched them, a reaction Richard Williams later labeled as racist. The fans also took their hostility out on Serena, actually cheering on her double faults.

At the time, Agassi had a prescient response to the situation, saying Venus and Serena should take the controversy as an opportunity to "make assessments and judgments as to how you want things to go in the future, to realize that those things are in your control."

Woods isn't asked to apologize for withdrawals. Basketball stars, baseball icons and men on the tennis tour bail out of games, matches and events on a regular basis.

But Serena and Venus have come to terms with the scrutiny placed on them. Learning from Indian Wells, Serena withdrew from a tournament in Montreal two weeks ago but faced the crowd of 11,000 and voiced an apology in nearly flawless French.

They cheered her effort. Crisis averted. Another step in responsibility.

"You get a few blowups like Indian Wells," Tracy Austin said, "and you start to learn. I think they have matured. And I've got to say, it's tough to mature in front of the whole world."

Once seen as aloof, Venus and Serena Williams are known to reach out to players who are injured. Once viewed as arrogant, they have learned to credit their opponents.

"When I was younger, I didn't always compliment my opponent," Venus said. "When I lost a match, I'd just say, `I think I played bad.' It's how you handle things."

Venus continued by admitting: "But really, I still believe that I'm the best, and I'm going to be top dog.

"I don't know why anyone would be offended by that, because, to be honest, they should be thinking they're the best, too. I know I've heard other players say, `I thought I'd never be here,' but that's not how I felt. When I was younger, my mom and dad said, `You're going to be there,' so of course, you believe them. I guess if you look back, they brainwashed me to think I was the best."

If you look back, Venus and Serena have come a long way in public opinion, but through little fault of their own, they have miles left to go.

new york times

"Topaz"
Aug 25th, 2002, 04:10 PM
These are three great articles in a row! :angel:

Thanks guys.

The Williamses seem to have impacted the American society way beyond tennis.
- Unspoken discourses are now held in the open for all to hear, digest and reflect on.
- Hidden attitudes can't be camouflaged for long when you are on the stand for hours with other spectators' osmotic enticement.

Oh boy! Keep on doing what you're doing, Willis: play great tennis and win. That alone will go a long way towards keeping such discourses in the main stream, towards shaping, straining the minds of many (even in messageboards like this one!).

Infiniti2001
Aug 25th, 2002, 04:56 PM
Thanks for the articles... You guy are the BEST fans.. Keep it up...

Go http://www.fortunecity.com/olympia/bischoff/239/1a99e6730.gif :bounce: :bounce:

Okasu
Aug 25th, 2002, 09:42 PM
Very cool Infiniti....

kiwifan
Aug 25th, 2002, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by eta psi
From the New Haven Register (venus on serena):

Pilot Pen Notes
Sean O'Rourke, Sean Barker and Dan Nowak August 22, 2002

Family fun
Serena Williams wasn't there to defend herself, but it didn't stop sister Venus Williams from poking fun at her baby sister Tuesday night.

Venus was asked about the qualities that helped Serena get to the top of the tennis world, and for whatever reason, it made her laugh.

"She hates to lose, No. 1," said Venus after winning her second-round match. "When we were little, she'd do anything to win. I don't want to get into that ... but ... we would let her win. If we had a talent competition, like a singing contest, she would sing the same song every time. Me and my other sisters would all sing a song, and if (Serena) didn't win, she would cry.

"So we would fix it so she would win. She's always been like that."

And the song Serena always sang was? "'Saving All My Love,'" by Whitney Houston. "And it sounded pretty bad."

And that reminded her of another story, regarding their play-acting in the back yard when they were kids.

"(Serena) always had to be the princess," said Venus, almost inaudibly through her laughter. "Lyn would be the wizard and I would be the warrior. But Serena always had to be the princess." :D :D :D

I just got off the courts and I'm too tired to laugh, but I will be smiling over this for the rest of the week.

I can totally see the rest of the sisters giving each other looks while Princess Serena sings the same damn song for the 100th time and wins the contest.

Probably pumping her little fist the whole time.:p :p :p

Raisin
Aug 26th, 2002, 08:03 AM
Wow girl you did it:eek:

Four in a row:bounce:

You go Venus, win the US Open:kiss: :hearts:

I the Williams Tennis Association:cool:

Williams Rulez
Aug 26th, 2002, 08:58 AM
thanks for the great articles! :D

Okasu
Aug 27th, 2002, 03:32 AM
Nice articles...
Do your thang Venus:)

Williams Rulez
Aug 27th, 2002, 08:10 AM
Good luck Venus! Win your opener nice and easy! :D

Raisin
Aug 27th, 2002, 09:43 AM
Good luck for your opening match Queen Vee:kiss:

TeeRexx
Aug 27th, 2002, 12:12 PM
Let's go VENUS!!
This tourney is yours!

TSequoia01
Aug 27th, 2002, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by TeeRexx
Let's go VENUS!!
This tourney is yours!

After witnessing Serena's form, Venus has to be the favorite no doubt! :cool:

"Topaz"
Aug 27th, 2002, 09:35 PM
Venus seems to have taken some baking lessons lately. She's serving out bagels in a row. Today, Lucic got two. Last week, Lindsay got one. Who is next?

Bagels set aside, I think Vee is ready for her 3rd US Open title. Her stats in the match with Lucic were excellent

Match Summary V. Williams(USA)

1st Serve 22 of 36 = 61 %
Aces 2
Double Faults 2
Unforced Errors 9
Winning % on 1st Serve 18 of 22 = 82 %
Winning % on 2nd Serve 7 of 14 = 50 %
Winners (Including Service) 11
Break Point Conversions 6 of 12 = 50 %
Net Approaches 3 of 3 = 100 %
Total Points Won 55
Fastest Serve 122 MPH
Average 1st Serve Speed 100 MPH
Average 2nd Serve Speed 82 MPH

We should also recognize that Lucic does have some good tennis in her. Her close to 6-ft figure and big serve sure could help. But the weight ... the extra weight ..., that's where her key problem lies, next is the mental form. If she can resolve those, I see top ten a la Dokic.

Williams Rulez
Aug 28th, 2002, 07:08 AM
Wow more bagels! I think Venus is gonna win this... :D

Raisin
Aug 28th, 2002, 08:56 AM
Come on Vee. Show us that you're the hardcourts Queen and that you're unbeatable during this period.;)

Hulet
Aug 28th, 2002, 11:55 AM
Good Job against Lucic yesterday, venus. I almost felt sorry for Lucic at the end - almost. But, I like the ruthlessness of venus on the court.;)

Who is she playing next? Barbara schett? I am too lazy to look at the draw.

Hulet
Aug 28th, 2002, 12:12 PM
Another question: is venus wearing two different earrings on her two ears? LOL that would be too funny.

Ntosake
Aug 28th, 2002, 02:24 PM
Wow, Venus! You really came out smoking! Excellent first match, now keep it up!

A "wow" also to Lucic, oh my goodness. If this girl ever gets fit, and gets some accuracy and placement going, look out top ten ladies!

And yeah, ets psi, Venus was wearing two different earrings as she has in the past. I've done it myself a few times and think it's fun and a break from the norm. But it really comes in handy when I can't find the darn match to the pair I want to wear!

"Topaz"
Aug 29th, 2002, 02:08 AM
Today, Vee, Serena responded by serving a bagel of her own. So, watch out! Lil sis won't be an easy pushover. :angel:

Hulet
Aug 29th, 2002, 02:10 AM
TennisPower, do you know who Venus is playing next? It seems like noone want to answer that for me and I don't want to look for her next opponent in the draw yet;)

Jovon
Aug 29th, 2002, 02:12 AM
Best wishes in your second round match Vee!:bounce:


HOPING FOR A SISTER ACT IV!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

COME ON VENUS JUST 5 MORE WINS!!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

COME ON SERENA JUST 4 MORE WINS!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

"Topaz"
Aug 29th, 2002, 02:24 AM
Eta psi, Venus is playing Alicia Molik tomorrow at 7:00 pm EST.

I'm hoping for SISTER ACT IV too, Jovon. :wavey:

Hulet
Aug 29th, 2002, 02:29 AM
Thanks, TennisPower.

I am sure venus will make it to the sister act IV but I am not sure about serena yet. She seems so distracted these days.

Any-road, Go VENUS :) Go for another double bagel tomorrow.;)

Raisin
Aug 29th, 2002, 08:49 AM
Come on Venus:bounce:

Williams Rulez
Aug 29th, 2002, 11:08 AM
I hope Venus double bagels her next opponent... ;) :D

Okasu
Aug 30th, 2002, 01:26 AM
Nice win...

:bounce: :kiss: :bounce: :kiss: :bounce: :)

"Topaz"
Aug 30th, 2002, 01:27 AM
Congrats Vee on this 61-62 win over Alicia Molik! Yes, the title must be won one match at a time.

Boy! I didn't know Alicia was so tall and strong! The average height in WTA is going up and up.

Ntosake
Aug 30th, 2002, 03:58 AM
I was thinking the same thing myself, TennisPower. The ladies seem to be getting taller, stronger, and faster.

Congrats to Venus! Keep the wins coming!

Raisin
Aug 30th, 2002, 08:01 AM
Congrats Queen Vee on your win. On to the next match:bounce:

servenrichie
Aug 30th, 2002, 10:40 AM
Hi Guys, nice to be back here with Venus.
I want the queen to concentrate on 3-peating, nothing less will do!

Hulet
Aug 30th, 2002, 10:45 AM
ITA with Servenrichie. Only another win @ USO for venus will erase my disappointments at the results of the wimbledon final.

GO VENUS! win!

Williams Rulez
Aug 30th, 2002, 01:21 PM
C'mon Vee! Win this damn tourny! :D

servenrichie
Aug 30th, 2002, 02:31 PM
Yes and it is time to let lil sis know who is in control.
I repeat nothing less than that will do!

MrV
Aug 31st, 2002, 01:47 PM
Good luck Vee!!!

lets have another double bagel :kiss: :bounce: :hearts:

Okasu
Aug 31st, 2002, 04:43 PM
Have a great match Venus....:bounce: :kiss: :bounce:

"Topaz"
Aug 31st, 2002, 05:49 PM
Congrats Vee on this 61-62 win over Martina M.

I hope I'll get to see the match! :mad: :mad: at CBS!

Okasu
Aug 31st, 2002, 07:22 PM
I don't think they'll show Venus today!:mad: :mad: Venus has gotten awful coverage :mad:

Hulet
Aug 31st, 2002, 10:02 PM
Good luck against chanda, Venus, and please don't underestimate her.

Jovon
Sep 1st, 2002, 04:38 AM
Great win today Venus, even though they did not show it at all:(

WILLIAMS VS WILLIAMS U. S. OPEN FINAL


COME ON VENUS JUST 3 MORE WINS!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

COME ON SERENA JUST 3 MORE WINS!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Williams Rulez
Sep 1st, 2002, 11:28 AM
C'mon Vee! Take home this title! :D

TeeRexx
Sep 1st, 2002, 03:38 PM
Well, some good out of the rain delay because they are showing VENUS'saturday match on Sunday. :rolleyes:

Okasu
Sep 1st, 2002, 04:52 PM
Only because of the rain delay...It's still Disrespect IMO

"Topaz"
Sep 2nd, 2002, 05:00 AM
Venus, don't be kissy kissy with Rubin tomorrow! It's serious matter now. Take her out!

Williams Rulez
Sep 2nd, 2002, 06:48 AM
C'mon Venus... Serena did a great job today... show everyone you can do better! :p

Okasu
Sep 2nd, 2002, 02:39 PM
Have a great match Venus... and don't be messing around with rubin

Raisin
Sep 3rd, 2002, 12:39 PM
Come on Queen Vee:bounce:

Ntosake
Sep 3rd, 2002, 02:04 PM
All the Way, Venus!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Roseie
Sep 3rd, 2002, 03:02 PM
GO VENUS TAKE OUT RUBIN. ANYONE NOTICE HOW CLEAN VENUS IS PLAYING NOW. SHE HAS CAUGHT UP TO SERENA IN THAT RESPECT.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE FORGET VENUS IS JUST 1 YR OLDER THAN SERENA. THERE IS NO GREAT BIG AGE DIFERENCE BETWEEN THEM.
THEY TRAINED & WERE TAUGHT THE SAME THINGS AT THE SAME TIME. I THINK VENUS HAS DECIDED TO GET SERIOUS, & WORK ON HER GAME. SERENA HAS ALWAYS WORKED HARDER ON HER GAME & FITNESS. YOU CAN SEE FROM HER SIZE WHEN SHE WAS 17 TO NOW. SHE'S STRONGER & FASTER. SHE'S CAUGHT UP TO VENUS IN TERMS OF STRENGHT.

Okasu
Sep 3rd, 2002, 05:49 PM
Great Win Venus...
:bounce: :kiss: :bounce: :kiss: :bounce: :kiss: :bounce:

"Topaz"
Sep 4th, 2002, 01:03 AM
Get ready for Seles, Vee. Take inspiration from Rena who just had
an awesome 62-62 win over talented Hantuchova.

Jovon
Sep 4th, 2002, 01:33 AM
TennisPower, I think she heard you;) they showed Vee on the practice courts with Richard after her match. Venus will get it together for tomorrow.

...and wow I am scared of Serena she aint playing around:eek:


Its drawing nearer and nearer:

Sisters Supreme Final

Come on Venus just 2 more wins!!:bounce: :bounce:

Come on Serena just 1 more win!:bounce:

Williams Rulez
Sep 4th, 2002, 06:23 AM
C'mon Venus... you have got to pick it up... :D

Raisin
Sep 4th, 2002, 09:33 AM
Come on Vee:bounce:

"Topaz"
Sep 4th, 2002, 10:35 PM
Somehow, I have the good feeling Venus will make it to the final. I don't see either Monica or Momo stopping her. First test is in half an hour, we shall see!

Take care of business, Vee! :)

"Topaz"
Sep 5th, 2002, 12:28 AM
Yup! Vee is in the semis with this 62-63 victory over Seles! I now can smell the all-Williams final.

Monica didn't look sharp today, but, as always, she deserves all our respect.

Jovon
Sep 5th, 2002, 12:30 AM
WAY TO GO QUEEN VEE!!!!!!!


ONE MATCH TO GO FOR THE SUPREME SISTERS U.S. OPEN FINAL!!!!! :bounce:

COME ON VENUS BEAT MOMO!!!!!!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Hulet
Sep 5th, 2002, 01:38 AM
I second Jovon's motion.

Come on, Venus, beat amelie!! :bounce: :bounce:

Informative
Sep 5th, 2002, 02:11 AM
Venus Forever! Great win against Monica tonight.

Okasu
Sep 5th, 2002, 02:42 AM
Congrats Venus....
Awesome :bounce: :kiss: :bounce: :kiss: :bounce: :kiss: :bounce: 2 more wins to go!!!!