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renstar
Jan 10th, 2008, 09:47 AM
I was just wondering, and this is still the reason i dislike Dokic to this day, if she ever apologised to that lower ranked player that beat her, that she said was a nothing, always was a nothing and always will be??

I mean after that Dokic became a nothing herself so I hope she knows how it feels now and maybe that was kalma teaching her a lesson. Some of these lower ranked players who battle through the qualies should never be called a nothing, they have beat hundreds of thousands of wannabes just to be in the qualies.

I hope now Dokic is mature she never has that sort of attitude again. :mad:

Dino?Dino.Dino!
Jan 10th, 2008, 09:53 AM
I think it's bad for your (own) karma to hold grudges.

renstar
Jan 10th, 2008, 09:57 AM
I think it's bad for your (own) karma to hold grudges.

I don't hold grudges im just wondering if shes a different person to what she was then, wondering if her nose down dive in the world of tennis into obscurity has taught her humility.... if it has im for her if she ever makes bitchy comments like that again i have no time for her or interest in her career.... maybe it was her crazy father that made her make crazy comments back then

venus_rulez
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:00 AM
Wasn't it Rita Kuti Kis that she said that about? That's the hardest thing being fans of this game is that we don't know the players personally and a lot of the information we get about them is from either questions posed directly to them and/or after a match that they've lost. I feel the same way about Hingis, she said some horrible things about the Sisters and Mauresmo, but she was also very young then. Still inexcusable, but if she were still making comments like that at her age now, then that would be a different story.

Uranium
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:03 AM
I don't hold grudges im just wondering if shes a different person to what she was then, wondering if her nose down dive in the world of tennis into obscurity has taught her humility.... if it has im for her if she ever makes bitchy comments like that again i have no time for her or interest in her career.... maybe it was her crazy father that made her make crazy comments back then

i'm sure me and Dokic don't care, she has more fans.:rolleyes:

renstar
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:04 AM
Hmm the name Rita Kuta Kis rings a bell, I know it was the early rounds of wimbledon, not hundred percent sure who the player was.

Besides all that I really wonder how there so many Aussie fans of her here when she changed countries back to Croatia when times were good then came back here when times were lean, yikes

Just Do It
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:04 AM
I was just wondering, and this is still the reason i dislike Dokic to this day, if she ever apologised to that lower ranked player that beat her, that she said was a nothing, always was a nothing and always will be??

I mean after that Dokic became a nothing herself so I hope she knows how it feels now and maybe that was kalma teaching her a lesson. Some of these lower ranked players who battle through the qualies should never be called a nothing, they have beat hundreds of thousands of wannabes just to be in the qualies.

I hope now Dokic is mature she never has that sort of attitude again. :mad:

I've never heard for this. Still, why did you open this thread NOW, when Dokic is winning ? Jealousy maybe ?

Dino?Dino.Dino!
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:05 AM
I don't hold grudges im just wondering if shes a different person to what she was then, wondering if her nose down dive in the world of tennis into obscurity has taught her humility.... if it has im for her if she ever makes bitchy comments like that again i have no time for her or interest in her career.... maybe it was her crazy father that made her make crazy comments back then

I like to think it has more to do with her growing up, becoming of age. When you look back to other players (Hingis, Williams sister, Kournikova), you see they've all had major attitude changes with the years. Though I think Dokic, of all, will probably be a different person now that she's been through 'hell and back' (in her own words). Having a crazy father sure didn't help her back in the day.

Just Do It
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:06 AM
Hmm the name Rita Kuta Kis rings a bell, I know it was the early rounds of wimbledon, not hundred percent sure who the player was.

Besides all that I really wonder how there so many Aussie fans of her here when she changed countries back to Croatia when times were good then came back here when times were lean, yikes

You mean Serbia ? Maybe because her retarded father forced her to ?

renstar
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:07 AM
I've never heard for this. Still, why did you open this thread NOW, when Dokic is winning ? Jealousy maybe ?

Winnning???? I dont think shes won a round or two in a legitimate tournament for over 2 years and about to fall off the rankings list lol........ she has won a round or two of qualifying woopee doo!

Just Do It
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:08 AM
Winnning???? I dont think shes won a round or two in a legitimate tournament for over 2 years and about to fall off the rankings list lol........ she has won a round or two of qualifying woopee doo!

Firstly Jelena DOES NOT have a ranking at all. Secondly, she won 3Q matches in Hobard and ONE MD match plus QR1 win at AO ;)

venus_rulez
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:11 AM
Didn't someone have a sig that said Rita kiss my Kuti Kis :haha:

Uranium
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:12 AM
Winnning???? I dont think shes won a round or two in a legitimate tournament for over 2 years and about to fall off the rankings list lol........ she has won a round or two of qualifying woopee doo!

shes won 5 matches this week basically:lol:(hobart and melbourne)
do u follow tennis properly
u hate exhibitions and dokic, but no one cares about your complaining.

renstar
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:13 AM
Wasn't it Rita Kuti Kis that she said that about? That's the hardest thing being fans of this game is that we don't know the players personally and a lot of the information we get about them is from either questions posed directly to them and/or after a match that they've lost. I feel the same way about Hingis, she said some horrible things about the Sisters and Mauresmo, but she was also very young then. Still inexcusable, but if she were still making comments like that at her age now, then that would be a different story.

Well yes that too but Serena can also be a little ungracious too sometimes, when she lost to Henin at the US open she said Henin got "lucky" in some points rather than say Henin just played too good, maybe its Serenas competitive nature. But Venus is always very gracious in her responses.

Ben.
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:15 AM
listen what she said about kuti kis was in the past okay, just get over it (referring to the thread starter).

renstar
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:17 AM
shes won 5 matches this week basically:lol:(hobart and melbourne)
do u follow tennis properly
u hate exhibitions and dokic, but no one cares about your complaining.

Well she did have a magical but brief spell at stardom when she beat Hingis at Wimbledon but the wheels fell off after that. Whether she can compete against todays girls remains to be seen. To me she has a very high rish game, quite flat shots, not much variation from playing flat out, plus mentally not that strong. If shes going to get back up the rankings she will need to do a lot of work and get a lot tougher mentally.

Goai
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:17 AM
I don't think Jelena is a nice person. But Rita Kuti Kis won a tournament soon after that comment, which was payback.

jd4eva
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:18 AM
Jelena did apologise and they made up. They even had a fairly cordial relationship for some time. If you want confirmation, you can read Jelena's interview after she defeated Rita in the 2001 Italian Open.

I hardly think Dokic became a nobody after her comments. She won 5 titles and was ranked as high as no 4 after she made those comments. Further, her comments were made when she was 17 and it was widely believed that she had been instructed by her father to make them.

jd4eva
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:20 AM
Well she did have a magical but brief spell at stardom when she beat Hingis at Wimbledon but the wheels fell off after that. Whether she can compete against todays girls remains to be seen. To me she has a very high rish game, quite flat shots, not much variation from playing flat out, plus mentally not that strong. If shes going to get back up the rankings she will need to do a lot of work and get a lot tougher mentally.

You're kidding us right? Beating Hingis at Wimbledon was only the beginning. The girl was ranked no 4 and won two Tier I titles. She's beaten almost every top player with wins over Hingis, V Williams, Seles, Clijsters, Henin, Mauresmo and Capriati. I highly doubt that three years in the top 10 can qualify as a "brief spell at stardom" (whatever that means anyway).

renstar
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:20 AM
shes won 5 matches this week basically:lol:(hobart and melbourne)
do u follow tennis properly
u hate exhibitions and dokic, but no one cares about your complaining.

Erm actually Ive followed tennis since seeing Chris Evert and Martina battle it out from the late 70s as a lil kid so maybe yes follow it a bit :bounce:

And id like to have followed Dokic over last few years but wait she hasnt played a tournament in that time:lol:

Привет
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:24 AM
renstar, Jelena never represented Croatia. If you are going to make a useless thread at least make some effort to hide your ignorance. :)

Uranium
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:25 AM
Well she did have a magical but brief spell at stardom when she beat Hingis at Wimbledon but the wheels fell off after that. Whether she can compete against todays girls remains to be seen. To me she has a very high rish game, quite flat shots, not much variation from playing flat out, plus mentally not that strong. If shes going to get back up the rankings she will need to do a lot of work and get a lot tougher mentally.
she came 4th place of Olympics in 2000 and won 5 tournaments, has beaten Venus, clijsters and hingis
Erm actually Ive followed tennis since seeing Chris Evert and Martina battle it out from the late 70s as a lil kid so maybe yes follow it a bit :bounce:

And id like to have followed Dokic over last few years but wait she hasnt played a tournament in that time:lol:

shes played tournaments every year.:rolleyes:

liuxuan
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:25 AM
She actually said this at the australian open in 2000, when Rita Kuti Kis had BEATEN her and she followed it up by saying, if anyone seen me in practise they would see theres only about 3 or 4 players out there who could beat me!" clearly, Rita was one of them.

GO RITA!!!

renstar
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:30 AM
renstar, Jelena never represented Croatia. If you are going to make a useless thread at least make some effort to hide your ignorance. :)

Well Serbia, part of the old yugoslavia like Serbia, exscuse me for my HUUUUUUGE mistake geez get over it, close a bloomin nuff!:confused:

renstar
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:31 AM
hmmm should of read Serbia part of old yugoslavia like Croatia, grrrrrr must really proof read before I post grrrrrrr

renstar
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:38 AM
You're kidding us right? Beating Hingis at Wimbledon was only the beginning. The girl was ranked no 4 and won two Tier I titles. She's beaten almost every top player with wins over Hingis, V Williams, Seles, Clijsters, Henin, Mauresmo and Capriati. I highly doubt that three years in the top 10 can qualify as a "brief spell at stardom" (whatever that means anyway).

She had once off wins against these players, yet did you give a head to head ??? NO Looking at Wikipedia the biggest tournament she won was Rome. I remember Serbia gave her sportswoman of the year at the time, now they have Jankovic and Ivanovic I dont think they rememeber who she is :bounce:

Other tournaments were Tokyo, Sarasota, Moscow and Birmingham. Year end rankings were 99: 43, 00: 26, 01: 8, 02: 9 After that :help:

Not that impressive, as i said before a brief stint at being an OK player

DimaDinosaur
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:42 AM
Obviously Dokic was right about Kuti Kis because I certainly never heard of her nothing ass

Uranium
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:43 AM
She had once off wins against these players, yet did you give a head to head ??? NO Looking at Wikipedia the biggest tournament she won was Rome. I remember Serbia gave her sportswoman of the year at the time, now they have Jankovic and Ivanovic I dont think they rememeber who she is :bounce:

Other tournaments were Tokyo, Sarasota, Moscow and Birmingham. Year end rankings were 99: 43, 00: 26, 01: 8, 02: 9 After that :help:

Not that impressive, as i said before a brief stint at being an OK player

well they shouldn't remember her, she's Australian
Tokyo, Moscow and Birmingham are big tournament wins
OK player, but she was 4 in the world and beat many top players
you sound really stupid right now and sound like you know noithing about her if u had to go to wikipedia.
have u seen her play?

Привет
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:43 AM
Well Serbia, part of the old yugoslavia like Serbia, exscuse me for my HUUUUUUGE mistake geez get over it, close a bloomin nuff!:confused:

Obviously your mistake meant more to you than it did to me, nothing in my post suggested I have anything to 'get over'. :)

It's funny that you make a mistake which you want everyone to ignore and forget in the thread you made about a player making a mistake which you refuse to let go and forget.

Maybe you should just 'get over' this comment which was made by an immature teenager. :shrug:

azza
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:46 AM
Didn't someone have a sig that said Rita kiss my Kuti Kis :haha:

Joke Failed.

Notice ur the only one laughing?

renstar
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:47 AM
well they shouldn't remember her, she's Australian
Tokyo, Moscow and Birmingham are big tournament wins
OK player, but she was 4 in the world and beat many top players
you sound really stupid right now and sound like you know noithing about her if u had to go to wikipedia.
have u seen her play?

What am I a walking encyclopedia on a player I DONT like??? get real. I briefly followed her career at the time enough to know she was no where near a dominant force in womens tennis and looking up her actual results on Wikipedia confirms this. I remember the Rome win, the other tournaments are not that big, no where near grand slam status.

And your following a player so bad she has no ranking and im the stupid one???

renstar
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:49 AM
I don't think Jelena is a nice person. But Rita Kuti Kis won a tournament soon after that comment, which was payback.

:yeah:

Uranium
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:51 AM
What am I a walking encyclopedia on a player I DONT like??? get real. I briefly followed her career at the time enough to know she was no where near a dominant force in womens tennis and looking up her actual results on Wikipedia confirms this. I remember the Rome win, the other tournaments are not that big, no where near grand slam status.

And your following a player so bad she has no ranking and im the stupid one???

she has no ranking because she barely played last year.
you briefly followed her, she made 4th place at olympics and SF at Wimbledon
don't say im stupid for liking a former ranked 4 player whos struggled.
You judge things you know nothing about, Dokic and exhibitions because you don't like them :crazy:

Привет
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:55 AM
What am I a walking encyclopedia on a player I DONT like??? get real. I briefly followed her career at the time enough to know she was no where near a dominant force in womens tennis and looking up her actual results on Wikipedia confirms this. I remember the Rome win, the other tournaments are not that big, no where near grand slam status.

And your following a player so bad she has no ranking and im the stupid one???

Actually, which tennis player Uranium chooses to follow and support has no bearing on his level of intelligence. I hate to be picky but it just doesn't, it's silly to say it does. :shrug:

renstar
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:56 AM
Hey Im Australian I followed Dokics career at the time enough to know about her to comment, she was a huge disapointment. And what with those evil corrupt australian open organisers rigging the draw so she had to play Davenport, and those evil restaurant owners trying to poison her poor father with evil fish, poor dear. I dont wish her malic now, she is playing for Australia so I hope she can lift our prospects and im always up for an underdog I just cant be bothered with any more of her drama, Jelena let your racket do the talking and don't desert Australia when it suits you!

Uranium
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:57 AM
Hey Im Australian I followed Dokics career at the time enough to know about her to comment, she was a huge disapointment. And what with those evil corrupt australian open organisers rigging the draw so she had to play Davenport, and those evil restaurant owners trying to poison her poor father with evil fish, poor dear. I dont wish her malic now, she is playing for Australia so I hope she can lift our prospects and im always up for an underdog I just cant be bothered with any more of her drama, Jelena let your racket do the talking and don't desert Australia when it suits you!

you hate her, but you support her because she's Australian:weirdo:
SO THIS THREAD WAS POINTLESS.

renstar
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:58 AM
Actually, which tennis player Uranium chooses to follow and support has no bearing on his level of intelligence. I hate to be picky but it just doesn't, it's silly to say it does. :shrug:

Erm well let me see here and I quote........

Jelena was born to a Serbian family in the Croatian town of Osijek (then in Yugoslavia) as an eldest child of Damir and Ljiljana Dokić. She has a younger brother, Savo

So thus she was born in CROATIA....... so whos stupid now BIIIIIIIIIITCH :bounce:

vutt
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:59 AM
... Year end rankings were 99: 43, 00: 26, 01: 8, 02: 9 After that :help:

Not that impressive, as i said before a brief stint at being an OK player

If that's not impressive then just out of curiosity how do you characterise player with following record? Dont's say not really a player :angel:

2006-1308 ; 2005-231 ; 2004-236 ; 2003-174 ; 2002-168 ; 2001-80 ; 2000-56 ; 1999-92 ; 1998-120 ; 1997-274 ; 1996-173 ; 1995-716 ; 1994-430 ; 1993-457 ; 1992-527

rada
Jan 10th, 2008, 11:00 AM
just get over it.

Привет
Jan 10th, 2008, 11:01 AM
Yes she was born in Croatia, and she has lived there for quite some time, but she never represented them.

Did I say that Jelena was not born in Croatia? No. Did I say that Jelena never represented Croatia? Yes.

You're still the stupid one renstar. :hug:

renstar
Jan 10th, 2008, 11:09 AM
you hate her, but you support her because she's Australian:weirdo:
SO THIS THREAD WAS POINTLESS.

I didnt say I supported her, i just said it woudl be good for australian tennis, maybe inspire the other girls. I also hate Lleyton Hewitt, whats your point?

esquímaux
Jan 10th, 2008, 11:10 AM
She actually said this at the australian open in 2000, when Rita Kuti Kis had BEATEN her and she followed it up by saying, if anyone seen me in practise they would see theres only about 3 or 4 players out there who could beat me!" clearly, Rita was one of them.

GO RITA!!!:lol:

Obviously Dokic was right about Kuti Kis because I certainly never heard of her nothing ass:speakles: :lol:

Well thread starter, I understand where you're coming from...unfortunately, it really doesn't matter though. And the karma bit is right. Dokic is not only in RKK's shoes now, but her panties too! :tape: As for those attacking the thread starter, it's only natural that they'd spout off at the original post because they're Jelly fans that can't take any Dokic opinions contrary to the sun shining out of her gooch.

Uranium
Jan 10th, 2008, 11:13 AM
I didnt say I supported her, i just said it woudl be good for australian tennis, maybe inspire the other girls. I also hate Lleyton Hewitt, whats your point?

And what with those evil corrupt australian open organisers rigging the draw so she had to play Davenport, and those evil restaurant owners trying to poison her poor father with evil fish, poor dear. I dont wish her malic now, she is playing for Australia so I hope she can lift our prospects and im always up for an underdog I just cant be bothered with any more of her drama, Jelena let your racket do the talking and don't desert Australia when it suits you!

that sounds like you support her.

renstar
Jan 10th, 2008, 11:14 AM
:lol:

:speakles: :lol:

Well thread starter, I understand where you're coming from...unfortunately, it really doesn't matter though. And the karma bit is right. Dokic is not only in RKK's shoes now, but her panties too! :tape: As for those attacking the thread starter, it's only natural that they'd spout off at the original post because they're Jelly fans that can't take any Dokic opinions contrary to the sun shining out of her gooch.

:worship:

Hey also does anyone remember about the same time Jelena was doing well at Wimbledon there was that black american or half black american girl who also did well, she had a father that was some sort of famous black american basketball player....... she also just as quickly disapeared from the tennis world..... so wish i could remember her name.

renstar
Jan 10th, 2008, 11:15 AM
And what with those evil corrupt australian open organisers rigging the draw so she had to play Davenport, and those evil restaurant owners trying to poison her poor father with evil fish, poor dear. I dont wish her malic now, she is playing for Australia so I hope she can lift our prospects and im always up for an underdog I just cant be bothered with any more of her drama, Jelena let your racket do the talking and don't desert Australia when it suits you!

that sounds like you support her.

I try to support our country, but shes a proven traitor so for that reason I don't support her... she wasn't born here, came here when she was 10 I think and left us when times were good...... so why should the Australian public support her?:(

Привет
Jan 10th, 2008, 11:17 AM
Alexandra Stevenson is the player you are thinking of, I think. :scratch:

renstar
Jan 10th, 2008, 11:22 AM
Alexandra Stevenson is the player you are thinking of, I think. :scratch:

Ahhh yes thats it, she sorta did a Dokic at wimbledon by making the semis also knocking over several big players........ she supposedly had the help of all the big names at the time in coaching to get her somewhere..... but she just couldnt make it work.....

Karolina_Sprem
Jan 10th, 2008, 11:22 AM
I was just wondering, and this is still the reason i dislike Dokic to this day, if she ever apologised to that lower ranked player that beat her, that she said was a nothing, always was a nothing and always will be??

I mean after that Dokic became a nothing herself so I hope she knows how it feels now and maybe that was kalma teaching her a lesson. Some of these lower ranked players who battle through the qualies should never be called a nothing, they have beat hundreds of thousands of wannabes just to be in the qualies.

I hope now Dokic is mature she never has that sort of attitude again. :mad:

Thats a normal thing for some young players (Hingis, Karatancheva, Stevenson, Dokic etc etc) to say something which they don't think and I bet Jelena feels sorry for some things that she said and done at her young age. Bet that you've done and said something that you feel sorry for.
Not sure what do you want now, according to you Dokic should call a press and tell them how sorry she feels about her past?!?!?
Think that everytime when press ask her about her past she said how sorry she feels.
We should leave her alone, its her life and she can do whatever she wants to do...
She lives in Croatia for the past 2 and a half years and for croatian press she is not "attractive" as a news and she gave ONLY one interview for one croatian magazine. Think that she is quite relax here in Croatia, she has got her own privacy, can go to a local shop or town centre without thinking that paparazzi will follow her.
She is sick and tired of stupid press....

esquímaux
Jan 10th, 2008, 11:32 AM
:worship:

Hey also does anyone remember about the same time Jelena was doing well at Wimbledon there was that black american or half black american girl who also did well, she had a father that was some sort of famous black american basketball player....... she also just as quickly disapeared from the tennis world..... so wish i could remember her name.Hmmm...well, I think Dokic at least has real talent, but Alex...... :lol: Put it this way, if Dokic's plummet down the rankings is equivalent to wheels falling off as a previous poster said, then with Alex, the wheels fell off, the engine dropped out, the bumper is dragging, and it all got towed to a junkyard.

Freakan
Jan 10th, 2008, 11:32 AM
renstar is a nothing.

renstar
Jan 10th, 2008, 11:34 AM
Thats a normal thing for some young players (Hingis, Karatancheva, Stevenson, Dokic etc etc) to say something which they don't think and I bet Jelena feels sorry for some things that she said and done at her young age. Bet that you've done and said something that you feel sorry for.
Not sure what do you want now, according to you Dokic should call a press and tell them how sorry she feels about her past?!?!?
Think that everytime when press ask her about her past she said how sorry she feels.
We should leave her alone, its her life and she can do whatever she wants to do...
She lives in Croatia for the past 2 and a half years and for croatian press she is not "attractive" as a news and she gave ONLY one interview for one croatian magazine. Think that she is quite relax here in Croatia, she has got her own privacy, can go to a local shop or town centre without thinking that paparazzi will follow her.
She is sick and tired of stupid press....

No I don't expect her to give a press conference to say she was sorry, was just a simple threat as to why I found it hard to warm to her cause i distinctly remember that press conference and how angry I was when I heard it, but was many years ago.... i have no idea what she is like now, as I said the years have probably mellowed her and her tough life experiences. I also think her father controlled her thoughts and what she said at the time, now hes gone im hoping shes a better person.

Hmmm Karolina Sprem eh, I thought I so knew that name from somewhere hehe, hmm trusty wikipedia always helps out, nice win over venus ;)

renstar
Jan 10th, 2008, 11:35 AM
renstar is a nothing.

Says who :mad:

Kuti Kis&Monica
Jan 10th, 2008, 11:37 AM
Jelena did apologise and they made up. They even had a fairly cordial relationship for some time. If you want confirmation, you can read Jelena's interview after she defeated Rita in the 2001 Italian Open.

I hardly think Dokic became a nobody after her comments. She won 5 titles and was ranked as high as no 4 after she made those comments. Further, her comments were made when she was 17 and it was widely believed that she had been instructed by her father to make them.

Rita told me after that that they never talked about it after the comments. She was surprised when she did learn that Jelena said in Roma she apologized to her, cause it didn't happen :lol:

BTW Rita hasn't been lucky with injuries through all her career, that's why she couldn't fulfill her potential (she did beat players like Capriati, Hantuchova, Schnyder, Suarez, Shaughnessy, and more !)

Karolina_Sprem
Jan 10th, 2008, 11:55 AM
Hmmm Karolina Sprem eh, I thought I so knew that name from somewhere hehe, hmm trusty wikipedia always helps out, nice win over venus ;)


Hmmm...leave Miss Sprem alone... Not sure but av feeling that you don't like ex Yugoslavian players. Thats your problem....Its not my problem that in Australia you don't have a good Aussie tennis players:devil::devil:
Not talented nation for tennis:mad::mad:

vutt
Jan 10th, 2008, 11:58 AM
Rita told me after that that they never talked about it after the comments. She was surprised when she did learn that Jelena said in Roma she apologized to her, cause it didn't happen :lol:


btw. who said she apologized?!? Here is the direct transcript:
Q. The last time you lost to her was obviously a big disappointment. Have you
waited a long time to put that right, and are you now friends, the two of you?

JELENA DOKIC: Yeah, we're talking. We see each other at tournaments and I think,
you know, we've sort of both, I think, tried to forget about what happened and
put that behind us. I know I have, and I know she has as well. And, you know,
we're just, you know, we're not the best of friends. We don't see each other all
the time at all the tournaments, but, you know, we talk to each other and she's
a really nice girl.

Dino?Dino.Dino!
Jan 10th, 2008, 12:00 PM
Says who :mad:

Says Freakan.

:scratch:

renstar
Jan 10th, 2008, 12:00 PM
Oh i thought you may have actually been Karolina Sprem herself lol...... and your wrong i like Jelena Jankovich, love her play and Ivanovich is good too......... Dokic could win me over..... all I was saying is that I have bad memories of the way she is and the things she said..... prove me wrong Jelena both with your play and attitude, id be happy for you to do that!

switz
Jan 10th, 2008, 12:04 PM
Obviously this thread was started simply so the thread starter could have a bitch about Dokic. The simple fact is Dokic is supported by most Australians because they know she had a shit childhood under an abusive, domineering father.

If you want to hold a grudge because of that i guess that's your prerogative.

Karolina_Sprem
Jan 10th, 2008, 12:07 PM
Oh i thought you may have actually been Karolina Sprem herself lol...... and your wrong i like Jelena Jankovich, love her play and Ivanovich is good too......... Dokic could win me over..... all I was saying is that I have bad memories of the way she is and the things she said..... prove me wrong Jelena both with your play and attitude, id be happy for you to do that!

You will have a chance to "meet up" Miss Sprem in 2 months time when she comes back and recovers after wrist injury and operation:devil:
Or you can come in Croatia to meet her, I'm sure she will be happy to introduce herself to u. U can play a match against her but only with sponge ball b'coz she is not allowed to hit a real ball.:wavey::wavey:

Experimentee
Jan 10th, 2008, 12:08 PM
The actual words were that Kuti Kis was "not a player and never will be".

WhatTheDeuce
Jan 10th, 2008, 12:34 PM
Why is this being brought up? :weirdo: Jelena was young and immature when she said this and I'm sure at this point she wouldn't be that insensitive.

And the truth is that if she did feel the need to say that, she probably had a reason; perhaps she and Kuti Kis didn't get along for one reason or another. Not saying that was an excuse to say it, but still.

Anyway, Jelena's put it behind her, I'm sure Kuti Kis has, and everyone else should follow suit. This is water under the bridge.

esquímaux
Jan 10th, 2008, 12:39 PM
Why is this being brought up? :weirdo: Jelena was young and immature when she said this and I'm sure at this point she wouldn't be that insensitive.

And the truth is that if she did feel the need to say that, she probably had a reason; perhaps she and Kuti Kis didn't get along for one reason or another. Not saying that was an excuse to say it, but still.

Anyway, Jelena's put it behind her, I'm sure Kuti Kis has, and everyone else should follow suit. This is water under the bridge.Venting? Self-help? Inquiring minds would like to know? Your guess is as good as mine.

renstar
Jan 10th, 2008, 12:47 PM
Oh didnt i tell you im flying Rita over to be a late replacement in the AO qualifying draw, shes playing Jelena in the final round of qualifying, but if she beats Rita she will be playing Lyndsay in the first round :bounce:

baleineau
Jan 10th, 2008, 01:32 PM
dokic was clearly a top-5 player for about a year, and a top-10 player in all for about 3 full seasons. aside from this, she was a threat and could take some big upsets. how anybody could say that dokic was never really a top player is deluded. somebody like Myskina could be judged as being weaker than dokic had it not been for the slam win at Roland Garros. If Dokic doesn't ever get herself back together, she'll at least belong in the category of player that includes Maggie Maleeva, Kimiko Date, Iva Majoi, Chanda Rubin, Dominique Van Roost, Anke Huber.........and those were all players of note. Not major champions, but outsiders at Slams, capable of reaching the second week of Slams with ease.

SM
Jan 10th, 2008, 01:39 PM
dokic was clearly a top-5 player for about a year, and a top-10 player in all for about 3 full seasons. aside from this, she was a threat and could take some big upsets. how anybody could say that dokic was never really a top player is deluded. somebody like Myskina could be judged as being weaker than dokic had it not been for the slam win at Roland Garros. If Dokic doesn't ever get herself back together, she'll at least belong in the category of player that includes Maggie Maleeva, Kimiko Date, Iva Majoi, Chanda Rubin, Dominique Van Roost, Anke Huber.........and those were all players of note. Not major champions, but outsiders at Slams, capable of reaching the second week of Slams with ease.
iva majoli was the only player who beat hingis in a grand slam in 2007 and prevented her winning the grand slam in 2007. this was in the french open final...so she did win a slam :P and had more consistent results than jelena and is definately a few levels above the other players u mentioned next to her name :wavey: having said that , i think iva had the game to be a multiple lslam winner even and probably should have another 1 or 2 french open titles had she been a bit mentally stronger

baleineau
Jan 10th, 2008, 01:45 PM
SM - agree that Majoli's credentials are much stronger than some of those in that category. But she's not quite in the Novotna, Sabatini, Martinez category either. Maybe the Majoli-Huber category should include Mary-Joe, Manuela Maleeva, Nathalie Tauziat, Amanda Coetzer too? Then push Dokic, Rub, Date etc. into a category below them. I'm not convinced Majoli belongs in the 1-Slam winner category as she didn't do enough for long enough to compare with Gaby, Conchita and Jana.

Freakan
Jan 10th, 2008, 01:53 PM
Majoli wasn't that good. She played in 34 GS's and apart from her RG triumph, her best result was QF...

croat123
Jan 10th, 2008, 02:18 PM
dokic def. erakovic 6-4 6-1 :)

Fumus
Jan 10th, 2008, 02:25 PM
I think we all say things sometimes that we aren't proud of when we are pissed off. Ya know, obviously that was at one of the worst times for Jelena. I think anyone who has watched Jelena on court and off knows that she's a pretty lovable person; she's mostly all smiles. But as a fan you are entitled to like and dislike players for whatever reasons you want, if you can't understand why a player would make a comment like this after such devastating loss after so much pressure is put on them, then that's you.

ce
Jan 10th, 2008, 02:34 PM
:spit:
:hug:
Jelena :woohoo:
:p

Vamos Feńa
Jan 10th, 2008, 03:49 PM
oh gimme a break, completely useless thread :help:
anyway Dokic did apologise Rita for these words.

BartoliBabes
Jan 10th, 2008, 04:51 PM
yes it was kuti kis. obviously dokic was feeling the loss whenever she said that, and i think she was very young too. i'm sure she regrets it now though..

bmxbandit
Jan 10th, 2008, 04:58 PM
You are a nothing.

donniedarko
Jan 10th, 2008, 06:27 PM
I remember it like it was yesterday.It was AO2000 and Dokic lost to Kuti Kis <lol>

Anyway she said bad things about her but as i recall she apologized right after that.And yeah,it was 8 years ago,she was a teenager and we all know teenagers tend to say things that are getting them in troubles.

Kournikova played Kuti Kis one year later in second round and easily won.She also made comments about this issue.She was asked about Dokic's words and if she feels the same and Anna said that she wouldn't call her nothing but she agrees that Rita isn't the best player out there.

sorry for my poor english.

darkangel23
Jan 10th, 2008, 06:31 PM
Dokic fell at the Aussie Open 2000 to Rita Kuti-Kis from Hungary 6:1, 2:6, 6:3! And afterwards she said that, but then a few years later they met again and Dokic took back the words she said!

darkangel23
Jan 10th, 2008, 06:37 PM
Yes but Kuti-Kis wasn't nothing! She defeated Capriati in her best years in Rome 2r somewhat. I don't remember if it was 2001 or 2002! Kuti-Kis came back from first set deficite and won 1:6, 6:2, 7:6!

MilanDokic
Jan 10th, 2008, 06:58 PM
Stupid question!

Close this thread!

tommystar
Jan 10th, 2008, 07:23 PM
The actual words were that Kuti Kis was "not a player and never will be".

Actually, your queen Dokic said the same thing when she lost to Petra Mandula at Roland Garros in 2001.
That bitch is simply a hick who cannot behave, a real sportman musn't say such things about opponents, and that came from her bringing-up. She deserved everything she went through and I hope her mini-comeback will be as short as she lost in the AO-Q, and hope she'll never win a match.
She is no PLAYER!!

TheAllan
Jan 10th, 2008, 07:41 PM
Actually, your queen Dokic said the same thing when she lost to Petra Mandula at Roland Garros in 2001.

She wasn't exactly gracious in defeat, but she didn't make a "non-player" comment as far as I know.

From an AP article:
"She didn't have a huge serve or a return," said Dokic, seeded 15th, after the 3-6, 6-4, 6-4 loss. "It was a player I shouldn't have lost to."

"Everything that she won was my mistake," said Dokic, a former Wimbledon semifinalist who had been considered a top contender at the French.

"The way she plays, it usually suits me. She doesn't do very much," the 18-year-old said about her opponent who was playing at Roland Garros for the second time. "It's just a matter of getting balls in."

AnnaK_4ever
Jan 10th, 2008, 07:42 PM
dokic was clearly a top-5 player for about a year, and a top-10 player in all for about 3 full seasons.

You should learn to count.
Dokic spent 10 weeks in Top-5 and 82 weeks (one year and seven months) in Top-10.

Majoli wasn't that good. She played in 34 GS's and apart from her RG triumph, her best result was QF...

Iva won a Slam which exceeds all that players in your sig have achieved altogether.

ninanina19
Jan 10th, 2008, 07:43 PM
You're going to hold something a 16 y.o said against them?

Ingokoer
Jan 10th, 2008, 09:02 PM
If Dokic called Rita Kuti Kis á "nothing" then she should retire. If a top player loses to a "nothing" tennis might have been the wrong thing for Dokic. Thing would be different if she had lost to a tennis player, but she said she didn't lost to a player but to a nothing...Shame to her, tennis wasn't the right thing for her...or she is just dumb.....

ninanina19
Jan 10th, 2008, 09:09 PM
You should learn to count.
Dokic spent 10 weeks in Top-5 and 82 weeks (one year and seven months) in Top-10.



Iva won a Slam which exceeds all that players in your sig have achieved altogether.

But her game was at a top 10 level. She just wasn't producing the results.

Helen Lawson
Jan 10th, 2008, 09:12 PM
That's what was so hilarious--if the girl was a nothing then why did Jelena lose? This was also amidst her claims of draw-rigging. When you meet an unseeded loser, how is that a scheme to get you?

She was young and obviously still under the control of her sociopath father. Let it go.

AnnaK_4ever
Jan 10th, 2008, 09:26 PM
But her game was at a top 10 level. She just wasn't producing the results.

:weirdo:

When Serena performed at Top-10 level she won AO and Miami even though her ranking was low.
When Venus performed at Top-10 level she won Wimbledon even though her ranking was low.
When Clijsters performed at Top-10 level she won IW/Miami back-to-back even though her ranking was low.

If player's game is at Top-10 level it DOES bring the results.