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treufreund
Jan 9th, 2008, 09:57 AM
I am wondering because Corina, whom I usually like, was downright catty and snotty today towards Jankovic insinuating that she fakes her injuries, said she might be "dumb" and constantly made snide comments about her challenging line calls. I am wondering if Lindsay ragged on Jankovic so much to corina that that has made her biased. I mean Lindsay really went off on Jelena back in the fall and now all of a sudden Corina, Lindsay's good friend, is ragging on her left and right. :o At one point she even said that up until 64 44 that Vaidisova had been "the better player by far" :rolleyes:

By the way, not hating on Vaidisova at all. Congratz to her! :) And, also, no Lindsay is not responsible for Corina's cattiness!

treufreund
Jan 9th, 2008, 09:58 AM
now Corina just said "i don't have a ton of sympathy for her" when Jelena is in pain. :fiery: Get over yourself, Corina! She is not faking it! Everyone knows that Jelena was injured during Hopman cup!

MagicMilan
Jan 9th, 2008, 10:02 AM
now Corina just said "i don't have a ton of sympathy for her" when Jelena is in pain. :fiery: Get over yourself, Corina! She is not faking it! Everyone knows that Jelena was injured during Hopman cup!
Sad to hear that from Corina :sad:

Bruno71
Jan 9th, 2008, 10:04 AM
She's obviously not much of a commentator...even if she believes those statements to be valid, that's just low.

merda2004
Jan 9th, 2008, 10:32 AM
well with comments like these ones...she will not be commentating for long...just email the channel or who ever is in charge and let them know about her comments...

Wayn77
Jan 9th, 2008, 10:35 AM
Pretty no-class comments coming from a commentator.

Corina sounds like a women plagued with insecurity and lacking in confidence.

What kind of low-rent TV station is this anyway?

Wannabeknowitall
Jan 9th, 2008, 10:42 AM
I like Jelena but last week she was wrapped to the point she couldn't move her right leg and now she's losing to Nicole this close with that ailment?

With the comments about being dumb, obviously she wouldn't get to number three in the world if that's the case.

But we have to remember what Jankovic has said in the last few years.
In Dubai after losing to Lindsay in 2005, she made a comment about not putting the physical work in to be a top player because she didn't want to look all muscle bound.

That's a dumb comment and if you do it right after a match, some people might think you're also talking exclusively about a certain player.

Then there's the comments about her and black people.

Martina was pretty negative about her last week, not quite understanding how Jelena was so good in mixed doubles when she backs up when she hits volleys at the net.
Corina could even be talking from that viewpoint.

It might not have anything to do with Lindsay and it could have everything to do with Lindsay.
It's not the first time someone has gone out of their way to say something negative about Jelena though.

ce
Jan 9th, 2008, 10:46 AM
Corina is a ??tch and everyone knows it

markdelaney
Jan 9th, 2008, 10:52 AM
if JJ doesn't take some kind of break from tennis she will end up permanently injured and burnt out then Corina will have to bitch at someone else

Bruno71
Jan 9th, 2008, 10:54 AM
if JJ doesn't take some kind of break from tennis she will end up permanently injured and burnt out then Corina will have to bitch at someone else

If Corina keeps it up she won't have a job by the time JJ gets burnt out. She's a neophyte...Martina N. can get away with this kind of thing because of her reputation and stature.

markdelaney
Jan 9th, 2008, 10:58 AM
most commentators (ex players) are very biased. e.g. Virgin(ia) Wade is always putting down anyone playing Mauresmo

Tenis Srbija
Jan 9th, 2008, 11:35 AM
Well that's surprising since they two played few times doubles together...
Anyhow very low from Corina, no matter what, you shouldn't speak like that.

MagicMilan
Jan 9th, 2008, 11:53 AM
I like Jelena but last week she was wrapped to the point she couldn't move her right leg and now she's losing to Nicole this close with that ailment?

With the comments about being dumb, obviously she wouldn't get to number three in the world if that's the case.

But we have to remember what Jankovic has said in the last few years.
In Dubai after losing to Lindsay in 2005, she made a comment about not putting the physical work in to be a top player because she didn't want to look all muscle bound.

That's a dumb comment and if you do it right after a match, some people might think you're also talking exclusively about a certain player.

Then there's the comments about her and black people.

Martina was pretty negative about her last week, not quite understanding how Jelena was so good in mixed doubles when she backs up when she hits volleys at the net.
Corina could even be talking from that viewpoint.

It might not have anything to do with Lindsay and it could have everything to do with Lindsay.
It's not the first time someone has gone out of their way to say something negative about Jelena though.
:rolleyes: You know that's BS. She said nothing bad, and the source was the worst tabloid in Serbia. That's crap :(

LudwigDvorak
Jan 9th, 2008, 12:04 PM
I don't have sympathy for her either. :shrug: She's forced herself to play after her nose surgery when she said herself she shouldn't play some silly Belgrade exhibition, she knew she shouldn't play Hopman Cup half crippled, retiring in TWO singles matches, and then she plays amazing tennis in Sydney after being basically in tatters since Beijing, arguably earlier. She probably was not faking her injuries, but come on, it's hard not to be critical. People have been criticizing her schedule since January '07, a lot of us thought it was crazy she played so much in Australia, then she just kept on playing anyway.

So when she comes to Sydney and asks for a trainer during a match, I'd like to think it's more of a preventative measure than anything else. But she deserves no sympathy, just like very few players do. Jankovic's line challenging can be irritating as well, but that's REALLY subjective though. Some people think it's cute. I personally hate how often she does it, but if she really thinks every line judge is out to get her...of course, these things are all issues on WTAW we speak of, but is this the forum for a commentator to voice their opinion? Probably not, especially from Corina. So I do know she shouldn't have said anything, before you cram this post down my throat. I merely agree with her on those things.

Calling Jankovic dumb is way unnecessary though, that's downright cruel. Aside from that, well, this just brings up the important question of how much we really want our commentators to say. You're going to get the opinions of most, unfortunately, so what do you do to stop it?

faboozadoo15
Jan 9th, 2008, 12:22 PM
Corina, for all she's been through, is a bit of a bitch. She's needlessly haughty.

At the US Open, she was walking the grounds after a practice session, and two children asked her for autographs, and she really couldn't have been colder if she had tried.

No, I was not one of those children, I merely witnessed. I wouldn't really care to have her autograph on toilet paper, to be honest.

mb011
Jan 9th, 2008, 12:33 PM
I dont know when this corina person said this but if she did it as a comentator on tv then it is very sad that someone would pay her to do this job. Corina was an avrage player to say the least and is obviously full of anger for some reason. So sad who gets to work on tv these days. You could never hear these things from british comentators on eurosport. They rule! This typical cheap, unprofesional work. As if jelena would rather limp then play good tennis. Again so sad.

Lolo8
Jan 9th, 2008, 12:34 PM
I like Jelena but last week she was wrapped to the point she couldn't move her right leg and now she's losing to Nicole this close with that ailment?

With the comments about being dumb, obviously she wouldn't get to number three in the world if that's the case.

But we have to remember what Jankovic has said in the last few years.
In Dubai after losing to Lindsay in 2005, she made a comment about not putting the physical work in to be a top player because she didn't want to look all muscle bound.

That's a dumb comment and if you do it right after a match, some people might think you're also talking exclusively about a certain player.

Then there's the comments about her and black people.

Martina was pretty negative about her last week, not quite understanding how Jelena was so good in mixed doubles when she backs up when she hits volleys at the net.
Corina could even be talking from that viewpoint.

It might not have anything to do with Lindsay and it could have everything to do with Lindsay.
It's not the first time someone has gone out of their way to say something negative about Jelena though.

What comment about black people?:confused:

Utautai
Jan 9th, 2008, 12:44 PM
Corina said such stuff? :o

jochem
Jan 9th, 2008, 02:33 PM
For all Corina has been through you would expect her to have a little more sympathy when someone is physically ill...

Ninny
Jan 9th, 2008, 02:38 PM
Then there's the comments about her and black people.

What comment is that? Obviously if there is a comment then there is a link. Could you post it please?

Thanks :)

The Daviator
Jan 9th, 2008, 03:37 PM
now Corina just said "i don't have a ton of sympathy for her" when Jelena is in pain. :fiery: Get over yourself, Corina! She is not faking it! Everyone knows that Jelena was injured during Hopman cup!

How can you have a ton of sympathy for her when she knowingly plays with an injury? It's her own fault, no-one is forcing her to play, she needs to learn to say NO to tournament directors.

Also, your posts are pretty out of context :rolleyes: I'm sure Corina also said plenty of positive things about her...

The Daviator
Jan 9th, 2008, 03:39 PM
Corina, for all she's been through, is a bit of a bitch. She's needlessly haughty.

At the US Open, she was walking the grounds after a practice session, and two children asked her for autographs, and she really couldn't have been colder if she had tried.

No, I was not one of those children, I merely witnessed. I wouldn't really care to have her autograph on toilet paper, to be honest.

LMAO! You do realise your 'favourite player' is the Queen of the cold shoulder to fans :o

ptkten
Jan 9th, 2008, 03:46 PM
Can we get the transcript of the comments, because treufreund often has an agenda and takes quotes out of context. He only says she is "insinuating" that Jankovic was faking her injuries and said she "might" be dumb.

Sounds to me like he might be overreacting or injecting his own opinion about what she might be thinking. Maybe someone else who actually saw it can weigh in.

And also, about saying that she doesn't have a ton of sympathy for her, well I think a lot of people probably feel that way considering Jankovic is always complaining about something, it's kind of like the boy who cried wolf one too many times.

huh?
Jan 9th, 2008, 03:49 PM
pardon my ignorance, what transpired between Lindsay and JJ?

LudwigDvorak
Jan 9th, 2008, 03:50 PM
What comment is that? Obviously if there is a comment then there is a link. Could you post it please?

Thanks :)

I don't have a link, but she reportedly said she would never date a black man. I think there was something else (could be wrong), but that's all I remember.

IF she really did say that, not like any black man would touch her anyway. :kiss:

Andrew Laeddis
Jan 9th, 2008, 04:02 PM
jelena was walking around as if she were injured yet did not call a trainer and continued to run ad slide durig points as if she were healthy so either she was faking or being stupid. if she was injured it was completely stupid not to call a trainer or to continue playing especially with a grand slam event in less than 5 days. corina was right to say what she said.

The Daviator
Jan 9th, 2008, 04:06 PM
pardon my ignorance, what transpired between Lindsay and JJ?

A minor spat that both players have long forgotten about, but WTAWorld drama queens can't shut up about...

huh?
Jan 9th, 2008, 04:25 PM
yeah I gathered as much, i was just wondering if it was something said in press conferences, or something on the court, or something like that.

dybbuk
Jan 9th, 2008, 04:30 PM
I love how everyone is going after Corina when they didn't even hear her. :tape: I am not saying the thread starter is fabricating things, but calling her a bitch on the word of someone who could or could not be taking things out of context is rather childish. I watched the match, I can't remember the "dumb" comment, Corina did say Nicole was the better player up to 6-4 4-3, yes. It's her job to give her opinion, and I did agree with her that Nicole was playing better up until that point. Corina also said a lot of good things about Jelena. She raved the entire match about what an amazing athlete she is. The thread starter mentioned all the criticism, but conveniently forgot about the good things, and the bad things she said about Nicole. Corina wasn't happy with the way Vaidisova was reacting to line calls either.

Ninny
Jan 9th, 2008, 04:30 PM
I don't have a link, but she reportedly said she would never date a black man. I think there was something else (could be wrong), but that's all I remember.

IF she really did say that, not like any black man would touch her anyway. :kiss:

Thanks :kiss:

:eek: She said that? Wow!! If she did say it, then that was a rather silly thing to say. Jelena :smash:

rolandg
Jan 9th, 2008, 05:05 PM
LMAO! You do realise your 'favourite player' is the Queen of the cold shoulder to fans :o

Seles?:confused:

treufreund
Jan 9th, 2008, 05:18 PM
well, no, folks I don't have a link. If you will notice I was talking about her COMMENTATING A MATCH and thus it is not a written transcript. I don't have an "agenda" as someone in this thread said (slander on his or her part so perhaps they have an "agenda" against me?). I think if others here watched the match on The Tennis Channel they will attest to the fact that a player in Corina whom I usually admire and who has nothing but nice things to say about Justine was nevertheless being rather catty.

Infiniti2001
Jan 9th, 2008, 05:20 PM
The thread starter is a drama queen ya'll. He always puts his own spin on everything :shrug:

CanIGetAWhat
Jan 9th, 2008, 05:21 PM
The thread starter is a drama queen ya'll. He always puts his own spin on everything :shrug:Truer words have never been spoken! :worship:

fufuqifuqishahah
Jan 9th, 2008, 05:21 PM
Corina, for all she's been through, is a bit of a bitch. She's needlessly haughty.

At the US Open, she was walking the grounds after a practice session, and two children asked her for autographs, and she really couldn't have been colder if she had tried.

No, I was not one of those children, I merely witnessed. I wouldn't really care to have her autograph on toilet paper, to be honest.

if that really is true.... she's not super famous so i don't see why she wouldn't do it. :o

treufreund
Jan 9th, 2008, 05:25 PM
The thread starter is a drama queen ya'll. He always puts his own spin on everything :shrug:

Wow! My initial posts are really not like I am saying Corina should be slaughtered. You have always insulted my posts and are the real drama queen. :lol:

LindsayRulz
Jan 9th, 2008, 05:26 PM
The thread starter is making a mountain out of a molehill.

QUEENLINDSAY
Jan 9th, 2008, 06:10 PM
I saw the match and Corina is just saying what it is. She just stated her opinion and nothing else. I dont see any unprofessionalism on her part.
As for Jelena, she really is a dumb for playing so much tune-up tournaments even when your injured. I can't blame anyone suscepting her faking an injury.

treufreund
Jan 9th, 2008, 06:16 PM
The thread starter is making a mountain out of a molehill.

Well, no, I was maybe making a MOUND out of a molehill. ;)

treufreund
Jan 9th, 2008, 06:17 PM
I saw the match and Corina is just saying what it is. She just stated her opinion and nothing else. I dont see any unprofessionalism on her part.
As for Jelena, she really is a dumb for playing so much tune-up tournaments even when your injured. I can't blame anyone suscepting her faking an injury.

QUEENLINDSAY ROCKS! If she feels it was ok then it tends to sway me. I still feel Corina was catty but , I respect your posts a lot.

missvarsha
Jan 9th, 2008, 06:29 PM
The theory becomes more believable with each additional fan of Fatvenport who rushes to defend Morariu.

faboozadoo15
Jan 9th, 2008, 06:38 PM
LMAO! You do realise your 'favourite player' is the Queen of the cold shoulder to fans :o

That's total BS and completely unrelated. Monica has thousands of times more fans that Corina. Corina should be glad a few kids even recognized her.

Monica was stabbed by a derranged fan and has always kept her distance from a lot of people. She can't go anywhere on tournament grounds without being mobbed. That creates a whole lot more anxiety.

However, Monica was always willing to do autograph sessions, exhibitions, and promotional events for tennis and her fans in a controled setting where she had protection. Few ahletes in the world see fans from the perspective of Monica.

Pureracket
Jan 9th, 2008, 06:41 PM
I'm not saying it's not true, but the threadstarter has a way of putting a slant on things. Other times, he just makes shit up.

faboozadoo15
Jan 9th, 2008, 06:43 PM
Calm down, Lindsay fans. Jesus, they're not lovers or anything...

Kampi
Jan 9th, 2008, 06:44 PM
Maybe I'm biased, but that's a NO NO from Corina.:o Who the hell is she, that she can say something like that. Not a good character to say this about a former "colleague" in public. Use your brain girl and better think twice next time, too.:fiery:

The Dawntreader
Jan 9th, 2008, 06:48 PM
To be fair, the way jelena has been talking about her injuries this year, saying it's career threatening, and then playing the next tournament is pretty stupid. Corina is probably puzzled as to why jelena is seemigly commited to the tiurnament, but yet so seriously injured. I mean come on, i've heard that old hag carillo say much more vicious remarks, eg 'Mauresmo played like a dog' amongst other things:rolleyes:

Give Corina a break, there is some lucidity in what she's saying.

Young 8
Jan 9th, 2008, 07:20 PM
a lon of players don't like Jelena Whinekovic attitude

so, i don't see the problem here......

treufreund
Jan 9th, 2008, 07:24 PM
I'm not saying it's not true, but the threadstarter has a way of putting a slant on things. Other times, he just makes shit up.


Nope. Just cuz you accuse me of something does not mean it's true, pureracket. :p

sfselesfan
Jan 9th, 2008, 08:05 PM
Corina is starting to commentate like Navratilova. Not happy with TTC promoting them over better commentators. Chanda Rubin was much better than Corina. I was shocked when I heard Corina saying that stuff. Especially when she said, "She's either not injured or she's stupid." That was out of line.

SF

Lindsayfan32
Jan 9th, 2008, 08:23 PM
When Jelena was playing in the hopman cup and the injury happened the ABC commintators called her a drama queen and that they wonder if the injury was serious as she was making it out to be. I don't have a lot of sympathy for her she asking for a strained muscle to become a torn one by playing on. yes I'm a Lindsay fan but this has nothing to do with what happened in china.

danieln1
Jan 9th, 2008, 09:23 PM
Corina said it right, people just don´t wanna hear about it... She just said what is happening, the real facts, so keep up the good work!

The Daviator
Jan 9th, 2008, 09:24 PM
That's total BS and completely unrelated. Monica has thousands of times more fans that Corina. Corina should be glad a few kids even recognized her.

Monica was stabbed by a derranged fan and has always kept her distance from a lot of people. She can't go anywhere on tournament grounds without being mobbed. That creates a whole lot more anxiety.

However, Monica was always willing to do autograph sessions, exhibitions, and promotional events for tennis and her fans in a controled setting where she had protection. Few ahletes in the world see fans from the perspective of Monica.

I was talking about Sharapova! :haha:

Monica is lovely, I should have been more specific :lol:

baleineau
Jan 9th, 2008, 09:34 PM
some of the comments:
"You can see there that Jankovic hasn't got a clue how to deal with the short ball. That lunge was pretty ugly."
"Jankovic is one of the most injured players on the tour but plays the most. You have to wonder whether these injuries are really as serious as she claims."
"Oh, yep, you can bet she's gonna question that one. That's the nature of the beast".

дalex
Jan 9th, 2008, 09:50 PM
some of the comments:
"You can see there that Jankovic hasn't got a clue how to deal with the short ball. That lunge was pretty ugly."
"Jankovic is one of the most injured players on the tour but plays the most. You have to wonder whether these injuries are really as serious as she claims."
"Oh, yep, you can bet she's gonna question that one. That's the nature of the beast".

That's...nice, isn't it? :)

sfselesfan
Jan 9th, 2008, 10:03 PM
Still, the worst was "She's either not really injured, or stupid."

That was crossing the line of appropriate commentary.

SF

raquel
Jan 9th, 2008, 10:32 PM
some of the comments:
"You can see there that Jankovic hasn't got a clue how to deal with the short ball. That lunge was pretty ugly."
"Jankovic is one of the most injured players on the tour but plays the most. You have to wonder whether these injuries are really as serious as she claims."
"Oh, yep, you can bet she's gonna question that one. That's the nature of the beast".
Pretty catty from Corina but not surprising. I remember reading a few catty comments she about about Serena during commentary last year. Is she still with Justin Gimelstob? His blog had a few controversial comments so maybe some of his attitude has rubbed off on her? I wonder how many of Lindsay or Lisa Raymond's shots or lunges would be described as "ugly", bearing in mind she said Serena was "not a traditionally beautiful tennis player" ;)

The Daviator
Jan 9th, 2008, 10:39 PM
Still, the worst was "She's either not really injured, or stupid."

That was crossing the line of appropriate commentary.

SF

Ok Corina that was :smash:

SzavayFi
Jan 9th, 2008, 11:15 PM
i love these WTAWORLD brawl threads. :hearts:

Ninny
Jan 10th, 2008, 12:07 AM
Why does the colour "green" spring to mind? Hmmmm :scratch:

Havok
Jan 10th, 2008, 12:11 AM
Corina is a shitty commentator and a bitch when she's commenting on her fellow female WTA players. Guess she's just jealous she never had much of a singles career and an ok doubles payer considering she's a specialist at that.

Leo_DFP
Jan 10th, 2008, 12:16 AM
I like Corina, and I like it when commentators speak the truth. I don't feel sympathy for Jelena either. She played a poor schedule, so now she's "in pain" or whatever. Corina went through leukimia and survived and returned to amazing fitness.

JJ is a drama queen.

Leo_DFP
Jan 10th, 2008, 12:18 AM
To be fair, the way jelena has been talking about her injuries this year, saying it's career threatening, and then playing the next tournament is pretty stupid. Corina is probably puzzled as to why jelena is seemigly commited to the tiurnament, but yet so seriously injured. I mean come on, i've heard that old hag carillo say much more vicious remarks, eg 'Mauresmo played like a dog' amongst other things:rolleyes:

Give Corina a break, there is some lucidity in what she's saying.

Very well put. Jelena hasn't given us reason to take her comments seriously. Corina isn't afraid of pointing that out.

And she's also not the first person to complain about Jankovic's complaining during matches.

Leo_DFP
Jan 10th, 2008, 12:21 AM
some of the comments:
"You can see there that Jankovic hasn't got a clue how to deal with the short ball. That lunge was pretty ugly."
"Jankovic is one of the most injured players on the tour but plays the most. You have to wonder whether these injuries are really as serious as she claims."
"Oh, yep, you can bet she's gonna question that one. That's the nature of the beast".

Well said on all counts.

I like Jelena, but come on some of her fans here are so far up her ass they can't see clearly!

Bruno71
Jan 10th, 2008, 12:30 AM
Well said on all counts.

I like Jelena, but come on some of her fans here are so far up her ass they can't see clearly!

And the same can be said of some of Lindsay's fans, and every other player's. What's your point? That this kind of personalized-attack oriented commentating speaks the truth to you, therefore it's OK? Corina has no proof that Jelena is faking her injuries, therefore she shouldn't be making allegations as such in her new line of work. I'd say that if it was any player, or any commentator.

OsloErik
Jan 10th, 2008, 12:31 AM
now Corina just said "i don't have a ton of sympathy for her" when Jelena is in pain. :fiery: Get over yourself, Corina! She is not faking it! Everyone knows that Jelena was injured during Hopman cup!

Look, Jelena is one of my upper tier favorites, but even I don't have a ton of sympathy for her when she's injured constantly and refuses to cut back her schedule. She plays far too much for her own good, and if she doesn't realize that, maybe she isn't as smart as we all think. Corina is far from a harpy as a commentator, she was interviewed on the Venus-Davenport match at Wimbledon 2005 and basically pointed out that her good friend, Lindsay, was simply lacking some of the mental fortitude to hold it together and that Venus, whom she's not buddy-buddy (never played doubles, at least...) with, was outplaying her on every point that matters. A set and a half in! When Davenport was dictating! That's not bad commentary, that's objective commentary.

My two cents. And I don't mean to be pointed, but do we really need criticism of commentators? Just be glad we're getting coverage of an event at all!

Leo_DFP
Jan 10th, 2008, 12:33 AM
And the same can be said of some of Lindsay's fans, and every other player's. What's your point? That this kind of personalized-attack oriented commentating speaks the truth to you, therefore it's OK? Corina has no proof that Jelena is faking her injuries, therefore she shouldn't be making allegations as such in her new line of work. I'd say that if it was any player, or any commentator.

We can all see that she exaggerates her injuries when she retires time after time one week and claims to have something career-threatening yet still plays Sydney.

Bruno71
Jan 10th, 2008, 12:36 AM
We can all see that she exaggerates her injuries when she retires time after time one week and claims to have something career-threatening yet still plays Sydney.

I have no doubt she's a drama queen at times; none of her fans that I know of deny that nor take it as an insult from anyone, including a commentator. But just because she says something overly dramatic, that doesn't mean she's lying or faking her injuries. If your logic takes you from point A to point B that's fine, but it's irresponsible for a commentator to do so. In addition, she said many other things during that broadcast that were uncalled for. A commentator should NEVER suggest a player is "stupid," regardless of whether they are indeed stupid or not. That's just shoddy.

hectopascal
Jan 10th, 2008, 12:38 AM
Just because she doesn't feel sorry for Jelena, doesn't mean she has to say it in public! What a b!tch....... And can you tell me what is so objective about that comment?? It sounds like an opinion to me - and a 'catty' one at that.

OsloErik
Jan 10th, 2008, 12:57 AM
I have no doubt she's a drama queen at times; none of her fans that I know of deny that nor take it as an insult from anyone, including a commentator. But just because she says something overly dramatic, that doesn't mean she's lying or faking her injuries. If your logic takes you from point A to point B that's fine, but it's irresponsible for a commentator to do so. In addition, she said many other things during that broadcast that were uncalled for. A commentator should NEVER suggest a player is "stupid," regardless of whether they are indeed stupid or not. That's just shoddy.

Progression of events

1. Jelena Jankovic HERSELF describes injury as "career threatening" at Hopman Cup (or was it earlier?)
2. JJ continues competing, with "career threatening injury" at Hopman Cup.
3. JJ ALSO competes in Sydney, winning a match against Golovin.
4. JJ hobbles around between points, yet still runs like crazy during points, and doesn't call a trainer while competing against Vaidisova in Sydney.

NOW, there are a couple of options: she's either exaggerating the injury in order to either psych out Vaidisova or lull her into a false sense of security, she's just that gritty (!!!), or she's not quite together enough to recognize that being injured every tournament is a death sentence for a career (crf. Clijsters, Kim; Tulyaganova, Iroda; Sabatini, Gabriela, etc.).

NEXT, let's put you in Corina Morariu's position: you've overcome everything thrown at you, while at the top of your game, to prolong your career, even if it's limited to doubles. A player who plays more than 25 events a year, plus exhibitions and special events (Fed Cup, Hopman Cup), has been (apparently) injured at: this tournament, the previous tournament, pretty much the last month and a half of the '07 season, and a handful of times before hand. You've already praised the player REPEATEDLY throughout the match for being one of the best athlete's on the tour. The player's injuries are the type that typically hamper athletess (you know, injuries to the lower body and stuff) and yet she STILL is playing. What conclusion would you come to?

You're also a straight talker. Add to that you don't have tons of experience in commentating.

Could Morariu have softened her language a little? Yes. Could she have been slightly more diplomatic? Probably. But lighten up a little! Most Williams fans took months of bizarre comments before taking on Mary Carillo (and Tracy Austin, and...). She's new at this, not to mention she had glowing comments about Jankovic as an athlete AND player earlier in the match. TTC is investing in the future; you have to get experience on the job, and Sydney is better training ground than being thrown into a Slam straight off the bat.

And just so you know, I'm hoping JJ will be perfectly healthy for the AO and make a nice deep run. She's fun to watch healthy. And I hope she cuts about 7 events from her schedule so that she's healthy most of the year.

Bruno71
Jan 10th, 2008, 01:20 AM
Progression of events

1. Jelena Jankovic HERSELF describes injury as "career threatening" at Hopman Cup (or was it earlier?)
2. JJ continues competing, with "career threatening injury" at Hopman Cup.
3. JJ ALSO competes in Sydney, winning a match against Golovin.
4. JJ hobbles around between points, yet still runs like crazy during points, and doesn't call a trainer while competing against Vaidisova in Sydney.

NOW, there are a couple of options: she's either exaggerating the injury in order to either psych out Vaidisova or lull her into a false sense of security, she's just that gritty (!!!), or she's not quite together enough to recognize that being injured every tournament is a death sentence for a career (crf. Clijsters, Kim; Tulyaganova, Iroda; Sabatini, Gabriela, etc.).

NEXT, let's put you in Corina Morariu's position: you've overcome everything thrown at you, while at the top of your game, to prolong your career, even if it's limited to doubles. A player who plays more than 25 events a year, plus exhibitions and special events (Fed Cup, Hopman Cup), has been (apparently) injured at: this tournament, the previous tournament, pretty much the last month and a half of the '07 season, and a handful of times before hand. You've already praised the player REPEATEDLY throughout the match for being one of the best athlete's on the tour. The player's injuries are the type that typically hamper athletess (you know, injuries to the lower body and stuff) and yet she STILL is playing. What conclusion would you come to?

You're also a straight talker. Add to that you don't have tons of experience in commentating.

Could Morariu have softened her language a little? Yes. Could she have been slightly more diplomatic? Probably. But lighten up a little! Most Williams fans took months of bizarre comments before taking on Mary Carillo (and Tracy Austin, and...). She's new at this, not to mention she had glowing comments about Jankovic as an athlete AND player earlier in the match. TTC is investing in the future; you have to get experience on the job, and Sydney is better training ground than being thrown into a Slam straight off the bat.

And just so you know, I'm hoping JJ will be perfectly healthy for the AO and make a nice deep run. She's fun to watch healthy. And I hope she cuts about 7 events from her schedule so that she's healthy most of the year.

Hey, I'm not calling up TTC and asking them to fire Corina on the spot. But when a novice commentator makes mistakes...in this case, as you said, not softening their language (i.e. using professional methods and terminology to convey their opinions), then they need to be made aware of it in order to rectify them in the future. I have nothing against Corina as a person. Nor do I find her personal history, as inspiring as it may be, relevant to the topic at hand. She needs to learn how to do her job professionally is all that I'm saying. Perhaps the same can be said about JJ...there's just the right way to say it and the wrong way to say it.

As far as the progression you listed...I'm pretty sure the reason JJ said what she did about her injury being career threatening has to do with what happened last summer in a match against Cibulkova during the Fed Cup tie. She sustained an injury but played on in the match, in the name of fighting for her country, the brave little soldier she fancies herself. Afterwards, she was told by a doctor that that injury could've been career threatening and it was not wise to have played on. I think she experienced a bit of deja-vu during Hopman Cup with the gluteus maximus injury, and concluded that the 2 situations were similar. I have no doubt in my mind that JJ doesn't fake injuries, but I can see that her actions have been confusing. As far as her playing with these injuries and overplaying in general, that is, as it has been in the past, a total mystery to myself and other JJ fans.

faboozadoo15
Jan 10th, 2008, 01:42 AM
I was talking about Sharapova! :haha:

Monica is lovely, I should have been more specific :lol:

Well I guess that makes much more sense then. Maria Sharapova is not, nor will she ever be my favorite player. ;)
She's the fucking ice princess. What do you expect? She's the highest profile player in the game. She can't sign every autograph. But again, She's every bit as fan friendly as a lot of the other players. She's just so focused in her practice sessions and even after matches a lot of the times. Catch her at an autograph session and you'll see a different side, like most other top players. I've seen all the top players snub their fans.

faboozadoo15
Jan 10th, 2008, 01:54 AM
I really don't think Jelena has ever been out for sympathy. She's a diva. She's a bit of a whiner, but it's her own emotions that she's just letting out all the time. She wears her heart on her sleeve. She's also a good sport, smiling after long points even when she loses, applauding opponents' winners.

Also, I thought Jelena was saying that she was putting her career on the line or risking her carer to play for her country, not that she had a career threatening injury. There's a big difference to me. The first is dramatizing a minor injury, and the other is playing blindly through and injury against the better judgment.

Regardless, Corina is way the fuck out of line. That's bad commentating. A lot of players bemoan their injuries during tournaments-- see Clijsters for a good part of her career or Serena Williams in practically any tournament. Jelena is the same way.

cheo23
Jan 10th, 2008, 02:21 AM
Where is PROOF that Corina has said this of JELENA?????

So Disrespectful
Jan 10th, 2008, 02:40 AM
I don't have a link, but she reportedly said she would never date a black man. I think there was something else (could be wrong), but that's all I remember.

IF she really did say that, not like any black man would touch her anyway. :kiss:

IF she did say that, do you think that's so bad? I absolutely loathe racism, but maybe she just doesn't find black men sexually attractive? I mean, I'm white and my preference usually isn't for white guys.

But of course, we don't know Jelena's intentions if she did make that remark, so I guess it's just speculative to comment on the matter.