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IMPOSSIBLE
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:27 AM
Biggest win ever for Sofia :bounce:

F-R-E-A-K
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:28 AM
OMG Elena :o :sad:

WTF? :tape: :help:

justine schnyder
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:28 AM
omg! :tape:

jujufreak
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:28 AM
Lena :o

congratulations Sofia ;)

Ceze
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:29 AM
Lena :help: :help:

itzhak
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:29 AM
Great start of the season...:sad:

NyCPsU
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:29 AM
elena you have been arvidssonated :D

petkoan
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:31 AM
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:.............. Petrova and Dementieva are on the road of retiring from tennis..:help::help::help:

darkangel23
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:31 AM
Sofia :worship:

What a day for Dementieva... Defeating Ana in an exhibition but when it a REAL tournament she loses to a Sofia Arvidsson who can play well but I mean come on...

DimaDinosaur
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:32 AM
Elena got punked with her fake self

Ben.
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:38 AM
Lena :o :help: cannot believe this. hope you do better at the open. not a good way to start the season.

Congrats to Sofia :yeah:

switz
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:39 AM
Sofia 6-3, 6-4 :eek:

great prediction switz. you are a genius :hearts:

Sofia :bounce: she will finish the season in the top 30. I will quote this when it happens and recognise what a genius i am again :hearts:

jonnyroyale_13
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:42 AM
top Russians in Henins half said screw this

Kworb
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:43 AM
Elena :o

It's okay, just win the AO please.

Michael!
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:43 AM
Elena :speakles:
Not even many double faults, but weak service statistics (1st and 2nd serve) :mad:
Same start of the season like 2006.....but I hope this time she can win some
rounds at the AO ;)

smokovec
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:46 AM
Russian Day....

Anna, Dinara and Elena all out in first Round. :help:

Slumpsova
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:48 AM
:tape:

dylan24
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:54 AM
demented is a joke
just like her fat countrywoman petrova

Viktymise
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:56 AM
Lena :speakles: :sad:

At least she didn't peak before AO. She has her best results after her worst one's anyway.

*Jool*
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:00 AM
congrats to Arvidsson , well needed win for her .

Dementieva ... well ...

égalité
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:01 AM
Amélie started 2006 the same way :devil: :woohoo:

Josh.
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:01 AM
oh my god.

lena :help:

DarkchildSwiss
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:02 AM
omg elena. good luck for AO.

fufuqifuqishahah
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:05 AM
Elena got punked with her fake self

do you ever say anything positive? :confused:

TennisPlayingFox
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:06 AM
Elena, what was that?

ElusiveChanteuse
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:07 AM
:eek:

Well done Sofia!:yeah:

Lena :o :help:

LudwigDvorak
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:08 AM
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:.............. Petrova and Dementieva are on the road of retiring from tennis..:help::help::help:

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: Oh get over yourself. Elena isn't going anywhere you dramatic queen.

Elena's amazing 25-14 record betters to 25-15 in Australia. I think a quarterfinal here was so possible. Oh well. I've seen Arvidsson play now, and she has a really solid game. This isn't that embarrassing of a loss. Not for her. :o

Elena will be herself again once she's out of Australia. :o Congrats Sofia.

Kovalchuk
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:11 AM
3 players play in HK all got defeated today :rolleyes:

Llin06
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:23 AM
easy guys.. Elena just wanted to rest for AO ;)

faboozadoo15
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:23 AM
Damn Elena :tape: What a shitty match

ce
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:25 AM
:o

NyCPsU
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:33 AM
3 players play in HK all got defeated today :rolleyes:

nah, not true.

dani won ;)

Paul.be
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:34 AM
Elena, I'm gonna sue you for the credits I lost today! :fiery:

Poova
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:34 AM
oh god.

This is a god damn awful loss Elena. :eek:

sebbe
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:37 AM
Wow, wow, wow is all I can say....I was chocked when I first saw this thread and that Sofia actually has one over Lena. Great job Fia!

Demska
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:42 AM
No words. :o

rada
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:48 AM
oh my that is bad i watched Sofia play the other day Elena should have won this

majuu
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:48 AM
Sofia played mostly an incredible match keeping all her balls deep and Dementieva pinned in the backhand court. I didn't think Elena played at all bad today, but certainly not ehr best.

Helaena
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:49 AM
lena :help: :hug: :sad:

Elwin.
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:59 AM
Elena :eek: :sad:

pav
Jan 7th, 2008, 08:10 AM
I watched Sofia playing Bepa Z the other day and was quite impressed with her calmness andher ability to hit some good winners off anything short. not one to be taken cheap

Kim's_fan_4ever
Jan 7th, 2008, 08:12 AM
I knew it :lol: Sofia :D

Pasta-Na
Jan 7th, 2008, 08:15 AM
elena.d :eek:

HenryMag.
Jan 7th, 2008, 08:21 AM
1st match with the new courts and the australian weather to Lena after the she played at the night in Hong Kong...I'm not surprised.

switz
Jan 7th, 2008, 08:30 AM
Elena would not have played her best but a lot of people here really don't seem to know how good Sofia can play when she motivated and in form. she hits with such depth and accuracy and can give a lot of players problems.

smit101
Jan 7th, 2008, 08:41 AM
Saw some of this match and sofia played really well very consistent and frustrating elena who would do stupid shots and go for too much. I saw Sofia doing her warmdown after the match and congratulated her and she was so excited...so happy for her, great win!

wukenaihe
Jan 7th, 2008, 08:51 AM
:bigcry:

LCS
Jan 7th, 2008, 08:55 AM
Who cares about Sydney anyway....Bring Melbourne!

-sugi-
Jan 7th, 2008, 08:57 AM
:help:

améliemomo
Jan 7th, 2008, 08:57 AM
:eek:

patch.
Jan 7th, 2008, 09:06 AM
:sobbing: Elena :hug: Hope its just an off day :unsure:

renstar
Jan 7th, 2008, 09:32 AM
Saw this match live. Elena looked so pale and white it looked like she had come from the Antarctic and not had an inch of sun in months. Arvidsson played beautiful control tennis belieing her lower ranking, she was playing like a top 20 player. Elena wasn't too far off her usual game just a few errors here and there which cost her the match. She seemed calm in the second set like she thought she could work her way in the match. It got tight in the second set, she got a bad line call, which I agree was a wrong call, which upset her a lot and threw her concetration a lot and it was too late to stop Sofia, too good on the day.

Side note: Elena really has an awkward looking game, just nothing seems natural about it, oh well shes won a lot of matches and tournaments with it, just seems awkward!

ZeroSOFInfinity
Jan 7th, 2008, 09:37 AM
Maybe it's the surface? Elena can't be THAT bad... :tape:

If the answer is "Yes"...Maria and Venus, thy be warned.... :help:

hwanmig
Jan 7th, 2008, 09:45 AM
OMG:o, pick up your game at AO Elena.

Drimal
Jan 7th, 2008, 09:58 AM
Ouch Elena :o :sad:

saint2
Jan 7th, 2008, 10:08 AM
I still cant belive how crappy Elena can be sometimes...:rolleyes::rolleyes:OK.I hope she'll draw someone ranked outside top100 at AO (Sofia was ranked at 96, right?)

Marionated
Jan 7th, 2008, 10:31 AM
Elena:sad: I hope you can do better at AO.

UDACHi
Jan 7th, 2008, 10:45 AM
wow that is AWFUL. :lol:

don't do this at the open and nobody will remember, though. :)

go_russia
Jan 7th, 2008, 10:49 AM
:mad::mad::mad::fiery::fiery:

Prizeidiot
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:01 AM
OK, so I was at this match, and there are a couple of key points.

1. Sofia played extremely well. Made her first unforced error (bar a DF) in about the 5th game of the 2nd set. Made like 3 after that, she was really consistent and deep.

2. Elena hit only 2 DFs and 1 ace, so she was poor from the baseline. She was hitting fairly cleanly and pushing Sofia around, but couldn't penetrate at all with her shots. Eventually she'd just push a ball long/wide. Got a code violation for obscenities though I'm not sure how the umpire could understand Russian.

Anyway, to sum up, a really disappointing loss.

vettipooh
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:04 AM
No words. :o

No words?? That's a first!!! :o Hopefully you stay that way!:lol: But maybe you should try "R.I.P. Elena" :devil:

LudwigDvorak
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:04 AM
Side note: Elena really has an awkward looking game, just nothing seems natural about it, oh well shes won a lot of matches and tournaments with it, just seems awkward!

That's our Lena. :hearts:

Her strokes, technique, and form are definitely unorthodox. Moreso than most other top (20) players, at least.

It does sound like Sofia just played really well. Stick her form against Elena's form during the summer months and this would probably have been a really good match. :yeah: I'm not disappointed about this loss at all, Sofia is REALLY not a bad player at all. I'm kind of surprised she is where she is, and I'm really not saying this because she just beat Elena. I liked her game in Auckland...especially her serve.

Aaron.
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:07 AM
That's our Lena. :hearts:

Her strokes, technique, and form are definitely unorthodox. Moreso than most other top (20) players, at least.

It does sound like Sofia just played really well. Stick her form against Elena's form during the summer months and this would probably have been a really good match. :yeah: I'm not disappointed about this loss at all, Sofia is REALLY not a bad player at all. I'm kind of surprised she is where she is, and I'm really not saying this because she just beat Elena. I liked her game in Auckland...especially her serve. You should be disappointed Elena cant make it far in grand slams if she loses matches like these Elena should win this on a normal day Sofia is just a average player Elena should win these matches like 6-2 6-3 but she didnt.

And even at that this match wasnt even close totally one sided for Sofia which means Elena played like shit.

AnnaK_4ever
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:09 AM
The second worst loss in Dementieva's career. Probably, only loss to Kleinova at Wimbledon was worse.
:help: :help: :help:

Aaron.
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:11 AM
The second worst loss in Dementieva's career. Probably, only loss to Kleinova at Wimbledon was worse.
:help: :help: :help: Thats what im saying :yeah: a realistic fan This is a horrible loss for Elena and some of her fans are :tape:

renstar
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:12 AM
You should be disappointed Elena cant make it far in grand slams if she loses matches like these Elena should win this on a normal day Sofia is just a average player Elena should win these matches like 6-2 6-3 but she didnt.

And even at that this match wasnt even close totally one sided for Sofia which means Elena played like shit.


Trust me I was there Sofia was not playing like an ordinary player, she may be mid 90s in rankings and not have many results on the board but this match she was playing out of her brain, hitting the groundstrokes very hard and accurately, if she kept this form up all the time she would easily be top 20 but I don't know why she doesnt?? Ive also seen Elena play couple of times live before she wasn't too far off her game just Sofia was too good, didn't give Elena a chance to work her way in, plus elena got really pissed off at a bad line call at a crucial stage near end of match which threw her concentration!

Aaron.
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:14 AM
Trust me I was there Sofia was not playing like an ordinary player, she may be mid 90s in rankings and not have many results on the board but this match she was playing out of her brain, hitting the groundstrokes very hard and accurately, if she kept this form up all the time she would easily be top 20 but I don't know why she doesnt?? Ive also seen Elena play couple of times live before she wasn't too far off her game just Sofia was too good, didn't give Elena a chance to work her way in, plus elena got really pissed off at a bad line call at a crucial stage near end of match which threw her concentration! If Karolina Sprem was more consistent she would be top 20 as well.

Elena should have won this match even if Sofia was playing well Elena's groundstrokes and speed are better then Sofia's.

LudwigDvorak
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:16 AM
You should be disappointed Elena cant make it far in grand slams if she loses matches like these Elena should win this on a normal day Sofia is just a average player Elena should win these matches like 6-2 6-3 but she didnt.

And even at that this match wasnt even close totally one sided for Sofia which means Elena played like shit.

This match was in Sydney, not Melbourne. So...? What's your point? Yeah, I thought Elena would win 63 62 or something, but this is her in Australia. She made the Olympic finals in Sydney and aside from that she's had zero strong performances in Australia. That result was in 2000. The only slam she hasn't made a quarterfinal for is Australia. Are you sensing a pattern here?

If Elena and Sofia met in the first round of the Australian Open I would expect Elena to have revenge. She's good at that. This was her first match after probably spending her entire time in Buffalo and Moscow in the off season (aka cold weather) and then she went to Hong Kong (more cold weather).

But like I said, I'm not sweating this loss. Elena can lose in the first round of Melbourne too...then she'll probably win Paris Indoors then have a semifinal or final in Indian Wells. :shrug: Then she'll resume her year as normal. I still think 2008 will be Elena's best year, her previous best year had two grand slam first round losses, so it's all cool.

renstar
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:20 AM
Well the other factor in all this is that Sofia has gone through a few rounds in the qualifiying rounds in the hot conditions, on the new courts, thus she's match hardened with these courts and conditions. Elena has just hopped of a plane from Hong Kong, she looked so white like she had been in a cold clime for a long time, limited matches so if at any stage someone like Sofia is to beat Elena then the opening round of a new year after going through qaulies would be the ideal time to do it.

LudwigDvorak
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:20 AM
Thats what im saying :yeah: a realistic fan This is a horrible loss for Elena and some of her fans are :tape:

Oh please. I'm one of Elena's most realistic fans and I get shit for it all the time. Since 2004, ranking-wise, this is probably her worst loss, yes. Unless you want to count her losses to Kim or Lindsay when they were ranked outside the top 100.

I think it just goes to show how consistent she's been since her loss to Kleinova, but whatever. This is not one of Elena's worst losses. Sofia is a good player. I remember when people were just losing their fucking minds when she lost to Bartoli twice (myself included), and then she finished the year top 10. :shrug:

Prizeidiot
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:21 AM
Thats what im saying :yeah: a realistic fan This is a horrible loss for Elena and some of her fans are :tape:
I was at the match... its a bad loss, but she's had a lot of losses that were poorer. And this sort of shit seems to happen to her all the time. Loses 1st round one week, wins next week. I'm not going to panic over this.

Sofia played very well, and Elena couldn't hit winners. It happens.

Lennval
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:22 AM
omg lena....

Aaron.
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:23 AM
Oh please. I'm one of Elena's most realistic fans and I get shit for it all the time. Since 2004, ranking-wise, this is probably her worst loss, yes. Unless you want to count her losses to Kim or Lindsay when they were ranked outside the top 100.

I think it just goes to show how consistent she's been since her loss to Kleinova, but whatever. This is not one of Elena's worst losses. Sofia is a good player. I remember when people were just losing their fucking minds when she lost to Bartoli twice (myself included), and then she finished the year top 10. :shrug: ok. :D

AnnaK_4ever
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:35 AM
Oh please. I'm one of Elena's most realistic fans and I get shit for it all the time. Since 2004, ranking-wise, this is probably her worst loss, yes. Unless you want to count her losses to Kim or Lindsay when they were ranked outside the top 100.

I think it just goes to show how consistent she's been since her loss to Kleinova, but whatever. This is not one of Elena's worst losses. Sofia is a good player. I remember when people were just losing their fucking minds when she lost to Bartoli twice (myself included), and then she finished the year top 10. :shrug:

There are players a certain player should NEVER lose to. Dementieva should never lose to Arvidsson. No matter where they play and what the surface is. Arvidsson has got one of the most primitive games on the tour and she's not even a hardhitter. She has no weapons, she doesn't move well, she's easy to play. Something is completely wrong with Lena's game if she couldn't beat her.

jonny84
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:37 AM
It's cos its in Australia though - Elena never really plays well here does she?

Well done to Sofia! She's getting loads of valuable ranking points this week!

keirana332
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:38 AM
Well Done Sofia!
Great match for her!
Tough luck Elena, definately not the AO warm up she'd been hoping for

LudwigDvorak
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:42 AM
There are players a certain player should NEVER lose to. Dementieva should never lose to Arvidsson. No matter where they play and what the surface is. Arvidsson has got one of the most primitive games on the tour and she's not even a hardhitter. She has no weapons, she doesn't move well, she's easy to play. Something is completely wrong with Lena's game if she couldn't beat her.

You're a fan of Elena though. She's going to have losses like these once in a blue moon, you know that as well as any of us, (sh)it happens. Her blue moon just passed. That's how I view it.

Although yes, Sofia has problems in her game, but Elena's never been one to move her opponent around the court. Her H2H against Davenport would be even closer than it already is if she were able to. :sobbing: She's just not an aggressive player unless she can hit a few forehands in a row. Just how she is. She'll have some great wins this year, we'll get over this fluke.

renstar
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:48 AM
There are players a certain player should NEVER lose to. Dementieva should never lose to Arvidsson. No matter where they play and what the surface is. Arvidsson has got one of the most primitive games on the tour and she's not even a hardhitter. She has no weapons, she doesn't move well, she's easy to play. Something is completely wrong with Lena's game if she couldn't beat her.

On what basis do you say she has one of the most primitive games. Ive seen seen most women champions play live to form an opinion and judging from just seeing her play once, ie today shes one farking good player and she hit the ball very hard, period!

TheBoiledEgg
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:56 AM
Lena :banghead: :( :mad: :(

instead of Lena vs Domi
we get :o vs :o :tape:

Derek.
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:57 AM
:eek: :o

saint2
Jan 7th, 2008, 12:06 PM
Thats only day off, Sofia played well, Elena could lose with everybody, but she also can beat everybody, Elena never played good in Australia etc.- really I dont know what is more phatetic- her loss to Arvidson or fans excuses :o:o

If top10 contender is losing to weak top100 player there is only one excuse- SHE SUCKS....

And to make it clear- these are words of fan of Elena since 2001...

Niunia
Jan 7th, 2008, 12:07 PM
omg :o lena :(

congrats Sofia

martin white
Jan 7th, 2008, 12:13 PM
elena a shocker:tape::bolt:she must be rusty coming into 2008! sofia:eek:

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jan 7th, 2008, 12:15 PM
Oh well :rolleyes:

We have to live with defeats like this 3-4 times in the year , I guess

Russianboy
Jan 7th, 2008, 12:16 PM
lol

maybe u just want some rest before aussie?

Lunaris
Jan 7th, 2008, 12:27 PM
Oh no, my precious v-cash. :bigcry: :lol:

Escape
Jan 7th, 2008, 12:30 PM
Lena :o :(

zveeen
Jan 7th, 2008, 12:43 PM
Lena :sad:

Williamsser
Jan 7th, 2008, 12:43 PM
Well done, Sofia!

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jan 7th, 2008, 12:47 PM
.

2. Elena hit only 2 DFs and 1 ace.


Something positive at least :)

The Dawntreader
Jan 7th, 2008, 12:50 PM
That's just dire from Elena, losing to Arvidson who's hardly the most formidable of opponents:o

Better luck at the Aussie Elena :hug:

©@®eLess
Jan 7th, 2008, 01:02 PM
Elena really hates Australia...never done anything good down under...

sebbe
Jan 7th, 2008, 02:02 PM
To all people who says that Sofia isn't that good and bla bla. Maybe she is training harder then ever and got better during the break? She broke with her coach which I think is the best thing she could've done. And I believe that she will go quite high in the rankings. I guess we'll see her playing more top-players so I hope she proves you wrong.

Valanga
Jan 7th, 2008, 02:21 PM
WOW...an impressive victory against a top 20 player :)

starin
Jan 7th, 2008, 02:44 PM
Sofia :worship:

What a day for Dementieva... Defeating Ana in an exhibition but when it a REAL tournament she loses to a Sofia Arvidsson who can play well but I mean come on...

further proof that exos are exos you can't take too much stock in their results. Bad loss for Dementieva but hopefully she can do better at AO now that she a real match under her belt.

Jorn
Jan 7th, 2008, 03:27 PM
WD Sofia :eek:


Now Sofia or Kaia in QF! ;)

miffedmax
Jan 7th, 2008, 03:36 PM
So much for the new, improved consistent Elena. I am such a sucker.

Unfortunately, her crack-like addictiveness still holds me in it sway. So I'll hope for better at the AO.

Viktymise
Jan 7th, 2008, 03:37 PM
There are players a certain player should NEVER lose to. Dementieva should never lose to Arvidsson. No matter where they play and what the surface is. Arvidsson has got one of the most primitive games on the tour and she's not even a hardhitter. She has no weapons, she doesn't move well, she's easy to play. Something is completely wrong with Lena's game if she couldn't beat her.

Henin should never have lost to Bartoli in a slam SF yet it happened. Serena Williams never should have lost to Jill Craybas at Wimbledon yet it happened and incase you havn't noticed, thats tennis. :o

Sofia has won two titles and was a top 30 player. She obviously does something to have gotten there. She IS a power player and has big flat groundies and when she's playing well, she can play some great tennis.

This was Lena's 1st match of the year coming straight from an Exo just hours beforehand, playing in HK night, to then playing in Sydney day. There is a huge difference and Arvidsson was 10 times more settled in having played in Hobart and Sydney qualies.

Oh and btw losing to Schruff in the 1st round of a slam ranks worse than this. Did all your stats not tell you that. :weirdo:

AnnaK_4ever
Jan 7th, 2008, 03:38 PM
To all people who says that Sofia isn't that good and bla bla. Maybe she is training harder then ever and got better during the break? She broke with her coach which I think is the best thing she could've done. And I believe that she will go quite high in the rankings. I guess we'll see her playing more top-players so I hope she proves you wrong.

Sofia is almost 24 and that was her only SECOND career Top-20 win. At this age you can't change anything in your game or become a threat for top-players all of sudden.

miffedmax
Jan 7th, 2008, 03:38 PM
Ooh, I forgot about the travel. Now I believe in Lena again. (I told you I am a sucker).

starin
Jan 7th, 2008, 03:49 PM
Sofia is almost 24 and that was her only SECOND career Top-20 win. At this age you can't change anything in your game or become a threat for top-players all of sudden.

Did you forget about Sybille Bammer who was older than Sofia and had done nothing of note b4 beating Serena and then went on to find herself in the SF of Tier I event, taking a set off Kuznetsova and subsequently finding herself in the top 30 and I think top 20 at some point

AnnaK_4ever
Jan 7th, 2008, 03:57 PM
Henin should never have lost to Bartoli in a slam SF yet it happened. Serena Williams never should have lost to Jill Craybas at Wimbledon yet it happened and incase you havn't noticed, thats tennis. :o

Sofia has won two titles and was a top 30 player. She obviously does something to have gotten there. She IS a power player and has big flat groundies and when she's playing well, she can play some great tennis.

This was Lena's 1st match of the year coming straight from an Exo just hours beforehand, playing in HK night, to then playing in Sydney day. There is a huge difference and Arvidsson was 10 times more settled in having played in Hobart and Sydney qualies.

Oh and btw losing to Schruff in the 1st round of a slam ranks worse than this. Did all your stats not tell you that. :weirdo:

Please, Bartoli is ten times better player than Arvidsson.

As for Arvidsson's game I repeat: it's primitive. And using flat strokes doesn't make you a powerful player. Sharapova is a power player, Venus is a power player, Davenport is a power player, Ivanovic is a power player, Henin became a power player, even Rezai is a power player. Arvidsson is NOT a power player.
How Arvidsson has reached the Top-30 by defeating ONE Top-20 player in her career is beyond my understanding. Never in QF at tier II.

As for loss to Schruff, yes it was a hideous incident too. But at least Dementieva had never played her before and (correct me if I'm wrong) Julia could run on the court which could be frustrating for her rusty opponents.
At the other hand, Lena had played Arvidsson before their Sydney match (a 62 62 win in Paris-2006) and Arvidsson is an out of shape, overweight player.

IMPOSSIBLE
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:01 PM
There are players a certain player should NEVER lose to. Dementieva should never lose to Arvidsson. No matter where they play and what the surface is. Arvidsson has got one of the most primitive games on the tour and she's not even a hardhitter. She has no weapons, she doesn't move well, she's easy to play. Something is completely wrong with Lena's game if she couldn't beat her.

try listening to to the people that actually saw the match :p

AnnaK_4ever
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:02 PM
Did you forget about Sybille Bammer who was older than Sofia and had done nothing of note b4 beating Serena and then went on to find herself in the SF of Tier I event, taking a set off Kuznetsova and subsequently finding herself in the top 30 and I think top 20 at some point

Sybille is an exception since she's had a natural excuse: she became a mother at 21.

Viktymise
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:03 PM
Please, Bartoli is ten times better player than Arvidsson.

As for Arvidsson's game I repeat: it's primitive. And using flat strokes doesn't make you a powerful players. Sharapova is a power player, Venus is a power player, Davenport is a power player, Ivanovic is a power player, Henin became a power player, even Rezai is a power player. Arvidsson is NOT a power player.
How Arvidsson has reached the Top-30 by defeating ONE Top-20 player in her career is beyond my understanding. Never in QF at tier II.

As for loss to Schruff, yes it was a hideous incident too. But at least Dementieva had never played her before and (correct me if I'm wrong) Julia could run on the court which could be frustrating for her rusty opponents.
At the other hand, Lena had played Arvidsson before their Sydney match (a 62 62 win in Paris-2006) and Arvidsson is an out of shape, overweight player.

People who seen the match said Arvidsson played great. As i already said she had been playing matches in the Australian heat for over a week, in comparison to Lena who had just come from HK where she played all night matches. She hasn't played any match in this sort of temperature in months. Plus im guessing she had little or no practice time on the courts.

IMPOSSIBLE
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:16 PM
Sofia is almost 24 and that was her only SECOND career Top-20 win. At this age you can't change anything in your game or become a threat for top-players all of sudden.

Actually its her 3/4th win over a top-20 player, she beat Sugiyama, Safina, Schynder and now Dementieva, not sure is Schynder was top 20 at the time though

saint2
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:21 PM
People who seen the match said Arvidsson played great.

Watch out Justine, Sofia Arvidsson is comming :haha::haha:

IMPOSSIBLE
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:22 PM
stop slagging of Sofia :(

Thanks for all the reports, anybody got any photos though ?

Ballbasher
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:25 PM
Please, Bartoli is ten times better player than Arvidsson.

As for Arvidsson's game I repeat: it's primitive. And using flat strokes doesn't make you a powerful player. Sharapova is a power player, Venus is a power player, Davenport is a power player, Ivanovic is a power player, Henin became a power player, even Rezai is a power player. Arvidsson is NOT a power player.
How Arvidsson has reached the Top-30 by defeating ONE Top-20 player in her career is beyond my understanding. Never in QF at tier II.

As for loss to Schruff, yes it was a hideous incident too. But at least Dementieva had never played her before and (correct me if I'm wrong) Julia could run on the court which could be frustrating for her rusty opponents.
At the other hand, Lena had played Arvidsson before their Sydney match (a 62 62 win in Paris-2006) and Arvidsson is an out of shape, overweight player.
Post of the month :worship: But I agree with lenavee don't think Dementieva was completely fit.

RenaSlam.
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:26 PM
The Fall of the Russians minus Sharapova Part 3.

Helaena
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:30 PM
elena :sobbing:

AnnaK_4ever
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:31 PM
Actually its her 3/4th win over a top-20 player, she beat Sugiyama, Safina, Schynder and now Dementieva, not sure is Schynder was top 20 at the time though

I counted only her Tour wins. But you are right, she also beat Sugiyama at Fed Cup in 2003. That makes 3 wins. Huge difference!

CrossCourt~Rally
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:45 PM
Awesome Arvidsson is back! :bounce:

BuTtErFrEnA
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:48 PM
Lena D!! :hysteric:

LDF
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:49 PM
Elena :spit: :o

IMPOSSIBLE
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:50 PM
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2609/sofiaarvidssonte509509wfa9.jpg

Sofia, your gonna rip your ear with those earrings flying about :lol:

CrossCourt~Rally
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:52 PM
I counted only her Tour wins. But you are right, she also beat Sugiyama at Fed Cup in 2003. That makes 3 wins. Huge difference!


Sofia has yet to hit her peak. Not every female player peaks in there late teens or early 20s ( bammer, momo, sugiyama etc ). It really doesn't matter how "little" big wins she has had in the past. She is working on the present and the future. Sofia has the type of game that has taken a bit longer to perfect than most of the other girls on tour. Simple as that...her best is yet to come. I seriously think she can make the top 20 by the end of her career...:bounce:... GOOD LUCK IN RD 2 SOFIA! :wavey:

IMPOSSIBLE
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:52 PM
Sofia has yet to hit her peak. Not every female player peaks in there late teens or early 20s. It really doesn't matter how "little" big wins she has had in the past. She is working on the present and the future. Sofia has the type of game that has taken a bit longer to perfect than most of the other girls on tour. Simple as that...her best is yet to come. I seriously think she can make the top 20 by the end of her career...:bounce:... GOOD LUCK IN RD 2 SOFIA! :wavey:

:worship:

LudwigDvorak
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:53 PM
Whatever. I'm happy for Sofia. She has a real shot at that first Tier II QF. :)

Elena will come back better and stronger.

miffedmax
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:57 PM
Or not. Elena is capable of beating the world's best, and of losing to the piece of lint that fell out of my racket bag yesterday.

(But she still AFR).

Dexter
Jan 7th, 2008, 05:34 PM
lmao! Congrats Sofia! :)

gmak
Jan 7th, 2008, 05:40 PM
lena :o embarassing :bolt:
from beating Ivanovic to this :rolleyes: :help:

just forget about this, and move on...

CrossCourt~Rally
Jan 7th, 2008, 05:56 PM
Or not. Elena is capable of beating the world's best, and of losing to this piece of lint that fell out of my racket bag yesterday.

(But she still AFR).


Are you sure it wasn't a strand of hair from your head:lol:.

You know Sofia has to be doing somthing right if she is now capable of attracting these types of posts.

Good Luck SOPH! :wavey:

tojja
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:16 PM
It's cos its in Australia though - Elena never really plays well here does she?

Well done to Sofia! She's getting loads of valuable ranking points this week!
She need all points she can get :lol:
Well done Sofia :)

JeLeNaJfAn
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:46 PM
What a great win Sofia:worship:
An unexpected but impressive win for sure!:D
She must be played very well
Please beat Kaia in the next Round and reach your first Tier II Quarterfinal in the last years:bounce:
Good Luck:tennis:

hablo
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:56 PM
Amélie started 2006 the same way :devil: :woohoo:

Indeed but it was Ivanovic who took her out. :p

*Jean*
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:57 PM
Wow Dementieva :help:

hablo
Jan 7th, 2008, 08:08 PM
Sofia has yet to hit her peak. Not every female player peaks in there late teens or early 20s ( bammer, momo, sugiyama etc ). It really doesn't matter how "little" big wins she has had in the past. She is working on the present and the future. Sofia has the type of game that has taken a bit longer to perfect than most of the other girls on tour. Simple as that...her best is yet to come. I seriously think she can make the top 20 by the end of her career...:bounce:... GOOD LUCK IN RD 2 SOFIA! :wavey:

Actually, Momo made the AO final when she was 19.

If it wasn't for her mental issues, I'm sure she would have won her first slam way before the age of 26. :banghead:

SvetaPleaseWin.
Jan 7th, 2008, 08:14 PM
Elena :tape:

good to see Arvidsson winning some matches again though :) hope she's over her horrible slump

Danči Dementia
Jan 7th, 2008, 08:35 PM
mtaaa

Elenaaaaaa.....why??? :sad::sad::sad::sad::sad:

switz
Jan 7th, 2008, 08:58 PM
Thats what im saying :yeah: a realistic fan This is a horrible loss for Elena and some of her fans are :tape:

pfff you didn't even watch the match and simply ignore the analysis from everyone who did :rolleyes:

SvenssonFan
Jan 7th, 2008, 09:12 PM
I counted only her Tour wins. But you are right, she also beat Sugiyama at Fed Cup in 2003. That makes 3 wins. Huge difference!

Yo Bitter Betty. Sofia won. Get over it. Live it, learn it, love it. There's more to life than a tennis match. And also - what professional training do you have to be judging who is a good tennis player or not? Just give the girl a break and say "good win." I promise you, life will go on....

patricktav2003
Jan 7th, 2008, 10:24 PM
woow thats big time for sofia!! i really thing she is having it thoses past month really playing well!! so good for her
because im shure Elena will do great in australia this year and this victury surprise me! good

kinglear
Jan 8th, 2008, 01:56 AM
Lena :o :help: cannot believe this. hope you do better at the open. not a good way to start the season.

Congrats to Sofia :yeah:

Although Elena never plays well in Australia Elena is an elite player and there's no reason she should be losing in the first round to an average player. The fact that Elena never performs well in Australia shouldn't be used as an excuse because she has more talent than what she showed. Then again, Elena is the Queen of Unpredictability and it can go the positive direction as well as the negative, which in this case, it has. :sad: I'm sure Elena will bounce back. Elena is definitely like a box of chocolates sometimes. :rolleyes: